Gingrich’s Fantasy War: Taking ‘Preemptive Actions’ Against North Korean Missiles With Lasers
Gingrich’s Fantasy War: Taking ‘Preemptive Actions’ Against North Korean Missiles With Lasers
Late last February, North Korea announced that it was preparing a rocket launch in order to — allegedly — put a communications satellite into space. While U.S. and allied officials widely believe “the launching is a cover for testing technology for a long-range missile that could carry a nuclear warhead,” Defense Secretary Robert Gates said last Sunday that the U.S. has no plans to militarily disrupt the launch.
But Newt Gingrich believes military action is necessary. Last night on Fox News, Gingrich said “we should be very worried,” referencing a “novel” he read about a nuclear electromagnetic pulse attack which “could eliminate all electricity production” in the U.S. “[W]e would go back to a pre-industrial era overnight, in seconds,” Gingrich warned. “It’s a very serious threat”:
GINGRICH: I don’t think North Korea should be allowed to launch missiles. I think we should take whatever preemptive actions are necessary. The idea that we’re going to suddenly be shocked one morning as one of these missiles has a nuclear weapon and does something that dramatically changes America I think is a very dangerous idea.
Continuing his fantasy, Gingrich then likened a lack of action on North Korea (and Iran and Hamas) to what “we did in the 1930’s about Adolf Hitler and Nazism.” He argued that “changing the regime is the only way to change the behavior,” but if all else fails, the U.S. should use lasers to wipe out the missile. Watch it:
As the Washington Post noted, “North Korea’s missiles are inaccurate and decades out of date,” and experts “agree that North Korea is probably years away from putting nuclear warheads on long-range missiles that could hit the United States.”
Moreover, the International Crisis Group has warned against overreactions of the type Gingrich displayed:
“[A]n overblown response would likely jeopardise the Six-Party Talks to end North Korea’s nuclear program. What is needed is a calm, coordinated response from the key actors to raise pressure on Pyongyang to return to the talks rather than a divided reaction that only fulfils the North’s desire to widen splits among its neighbours. [...] An overreaction to the test that prompts the North to abandon the Six-Party Talks would strengthen hardliners in Pyongyang.”
Gingrich appears to enjoy engaging in hyperbole as of late. Just last week, he warned that President Obama’s policies are taking the U.S. toward “dictatorship.”
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April 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pmLaser technology is no joke. See here to learn how directed energy weapons (HAARP) destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11:
9/11: Distinguishing The Propaganda From The Smoking Guns
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pmOf course he’s on the scare channel shoveling this sht.
Only if the laser beams are strapped to sharks will they be effective.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm“He argued that “changing the regime is the only way to change the behavior,” but if all else fails, the U.S. should use lasers to wipe out the missile.”
I’m not sure exactly why THIS is the particular tipping point (w/ so many to choose from), but from now on I’ll make it a point to be savoring EVERY SINGLE DAY these idiots are no longer in power.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:12 pmBob beat me to it….
CB this is more plausible…
Directed energy of a couple of fracking airliners that the bushies knew were coming……
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:14 pmWhy don’t we just GW Bush over there to ‘look into Kimmee’s eyes/soul’?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 pmCan anyone please come up with a better scenario? Sasquatch in secret talks with aliens? Flouride as a communist plot to make Americans stupid? (Like we need help). Maybe the internet is going to generate mind control rays?
Stalin didn’t die and is plotting with Hitler and Nixon to take over the world through on line Texas Hold’em sites?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pmwow! These guys are pure empty retoric. The republican party no longer exists, regardless of what they might claim.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pmIs there any country that the GOoPers, and their official propaganda network, don’t want to take military action against? And what the Hell would we do if N. Korea got pissed enough to invade, with or without China’s help, S. Korea?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm***
will these lasers
be set to stun?
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April 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pmthat would be phasers, joe
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pmPissedOffVeteran: Take a look at the link I gave. Some amazing stuff, like a 1999 Washington Post article detailing the military’s Hologram “PSYOPS” Program, for psychological operations. Also catch the quote from a NYC paramedic who reported seeing a plane hit the tower but heard “nothing”. The military has a lot of hi-tech weapons out there, and I hate to think who they’re aimed at.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmThere is a very large vaccum in the GOP cult right now. That is why Joe the ‘not’ Plumber and Sarah the ‘dimwit’ Palin are still in the limelight. Never one to let a vaccum occur without him, here comes Newtie – all catholic’ed up and ready for that fourth (or fifth, or sixth) wedding.
Think about it folks: Palin, plumber, and Newtie are holding the GOP together. The dimmest bulbs in the bag are guiding the fortunes of the corrupt and irrelevant GOP. I love it.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmSo if the North Koreans fire a missle and it lands in Jerusalem, do the Iranians get blamed?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pmI recall Israel bragging about novel, nonconventional war capabilities. I hadn’t heard about North Korea.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pmCB Brooklyn,
The link is trying to tell people that they didn’t see planes, they only saw “holographic projections”. It’s really not helping the cause.
It’s total crap compared to SO MANY other areas of obvious and verifiable inconsistencies (like the NORAD war games etc…)
9/11 absolutely deserves a full, unhindered investigation, but c’mon… holograms?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:26 pmHoodathunktick Says:
that would be phasers, joe
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same principle,
different space ship.
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live long and
longer.
spock out.
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April 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pmThis came from tsdivadani on ThinkFast, but applies here:
http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?NumberID=745
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:28 pmWhat we Really need is a Giant, Walking Robot that shoots lasers from its Eyes! Yeah, a Giant Walking, Flying Robot! That’s what we need! With that the Newtster coud (Dare I say it?, Rule the World!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm666cicadas Says: 9/11 absolutely deserves a full, unhindered investigation
And just what could be investigated? All the debris has either been dumped in the ocean or converted into warships. Three massive buildings destroyed and all debris is gone inside a couple of years. Maybe Newt’s lasers could find something.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pmGINGRICH: I think we should take whatever preemptive actions are necessary.
Ah yes, another neoconservative, preemptive war.
Chickenhawk warmongers, like William Kristol, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, and George W. Bush, will always be banging the war drums until we put them or their loved ones in uniform on the forward lines of the battlefield.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm“Sharks with friking lasers attacked to their heads”
So here is the gop’s plan, hire dr. evil to attack North Korea and take out the missles.
woohoo!!!
I’ve noticed lately that all of the gop’s ideas(i.e. ramblings) seem to come from plots of movies. I guess with all this time making up stuff they have been hitting netflix pretty hard, oh and lets not forget tv’s 24(dicks fav).
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm666cicadas: Take a serious look through the link. Put predeterminations aside. Just look at the data!! You’ll be amazed.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pmA few more weeks and the Republicans can officially claim the title of Party of Silly Crap.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 pmCould there be a more fitting end to the GOP than to be laughed out of existence for hysteria?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pmWonder how much of this is a belief that the USA should monopolize all commmunications to reap the financial rewards ? After all, if we own all the satellites, no one can make a call without paying us.
And for the lasers, sounds like a return to Reagan’s Star Wars defense system. Does anyone have independent documentation handy for the successful testing of that system ?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 pmThe link also has a link to a military web site (.mil) describing their plans to develop the hologram project (military document dated from the 1990s).
Did you check the Washington Post article I mentioned? It talks about the military’s ability to project Allah above Baghdad!
No doubt whatsoever the technology exists to destroy North Korean missiles.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pmPresident Obama, why did you want this job? I mean, thank goodness you won but how can you keep your cool and do such a great job at the same time? I thought the terrorists were supposed to be in Iraq (according to George W) but it seems like we have so many home grown terrorists like Newt, Sarah, Glen Beck, the Party of NO and the freaks at Fox Noise? The only thing I am not happy with the Obama administration is, why isn’t Karl Rove & Dick Cheney in prison?
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:39 pmNorth Korea has a certifiably crazy head of its government.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:41 pmGingrich wants to be the certiably crazy head of our government. These comments put him in the lead, barely.
Funny, the U.S. had a commission on this threat since 2001. I don’t recall Newtie shaking the fear branch while Chimpy McHitler was in office. (thanks to Jay Ambrose for the Chimpy moniker). Even conservative Heritage foundation has info on the topic:
http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/bg1784.cfm
Dust off the boogeymen, Repugnican’ts are less popular than ever.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 pmobama-biden2009: I’m not sure who Obama works for. The Yale Daily News reports his economic adviser is in Skull and Bones. And the Kenyan Ambassador practically gave Kenya as Obama’s birthplace.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 pmHolograms are as silly a theory as the official theory – the theory that the Bushies came up with – without ever carrying out a proper investigation. An investigation would be informative to say the least.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 pm“And I think the Obama idea of being respectful and communicating with them, implies that their fools”
Cause we all know that Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Bill Kristol Neo-conservative way of thinking and doing things worked so well in dealing with Al Quada and the taliban these past eight years! Attack first and strategize later. IDIOT!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:49 pmBassalopes.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:49 pmDid you check the Washington Post article I mentioned? It talks about the military’s ability to project Allah above Baghdad!
So THAT’s what happened in that Lourdes Grotto in 1913!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 pmIt makes you wonder what kind of attack on America Newt Gingrich and Dick Cheney are planning for us. Spit.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm666cicadas Says:
9/11 absolutely deserves a full, unhindered investigation, but c’mon… holograms?
Personally, I think CB_Brooklyn’s loops are missing their fruits.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 pmRead his web site, its a hoot.
Everytime warmongers like Newt Gingrich make an argument about an enemy they chose and selected, they state the same:
‘These people(enemies)are all Hitlers,and we are in another World War now,and we must act’.
How many Hitlers are out there…?!!
Please……Newt!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 pmRepublicans especially Gingrich will say ANYTHING to keep their name in the news. It’s a bit pitiful to see them trying to claw their way back into power by any means.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pmI think 9/11 does need a thorough investigation, but a website that argues for life on Mars from those stupid pictures is just poisoning the well.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pmOK, we could use lasers to take out their launch. We would be complete jerks to do so, and open ourselves up to any other country doing the same (or worse) to us.
NK is not about to nuke us, they know they would be instantly squashed by us, China and Japan combined.
But the craziest part of this is that soemhow, Newt thinks that there could be an electro-magnetic pulse ony within our borders? How the heck does he suppose that would happen? I believe that the EMP would be a global occurence if it happened at all, so NK would be cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Of course, Newt doesn’t really believe any of this, it is not any kind of threat, he is just stirring up fear. Go GOP!
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmSorry folks, for contributing to the derailment of the thread, but 9/11 truth is still very important and hasn’t been brought up in a while.
Hoodathunktick Says:
“And just what could be investigated?”
The physical evidence is just a red-herring and isn’t necessary for an investigation. All the molten steel, thermite etc. is not important when they could begin with who was in charge of NORAD (Dick Cheney) on 9/11 directing the jets (who were conducting excercises for hijacked planes striking buildings) away from the real planes.
And why investigations of the highjackers were cut off by the Justice dept etc.
There’s plenty to choose from. All of the conjecture w/ no proof is a complete waste of time (IMO).
CB_Brooklyn Says:
“Take a serious look through the link. Put predeterminations aside.”
I did and it smells like misinformation to me, so I’m calling it out. I thought it was pretty cute of it to mention a warning about “misinformation”, though. They get cute points for that.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmWhy can’t Republicans restrict their fantasies to diapers and hookers?
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmCB, you’ve uncovered the truth: Barack Obama was indeed born in Kenya. And then he moved to America, gave birth to a hologram that he deceptively called Barack Obama, and started his half-century-long career of fiendish deception.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:06 pmBarack Obama is not only a Kenyan Muslim, he’s really an old man in his 70’s!
And his voice is done by James Earl Jones!
The U.S. needs to take pre-emptive action against every politician who claims to be a “conservative.”
They’ve subverted the Constitution; they’ve decimated our military; they’ve perverted our Justice Department; they’ve dismantled our industrial/manufacturing base; they’ve destroyed our economy; . . .
(I’m running out of words ending in “-ed” — but you get the point.)
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:23 pmSo what is Newt’s day job when he isn’t daydreaming about fictional scenarios?
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 pmI’m sure there’s some people here who can remember M.A.D., and I’m sure the North Korean’s know that the instant a missile is launched , we’ll be tracking it to it’s apparent destination.
If any harm should come to America or it’s allies, they must know that we could bomb them to the stone age,( pretty close to where they are now ), using conventional weapons of course, to avoid contaminating their neighbors.
To think that we should be concerned about an imaginary EMP, from a third world village on the other side of the planet is ludicrous .
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:30 pmOro Lee Says:
Bassalopes.
Oh no, there is a Bassalope gap!
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:31 pmWell, if its these 300 some odd transformers Newt is talking about it doesnt need to be an EMP weapon
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Chicken Newt Little
Running around like a Chicken Newt with his head cut off.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 pmhttp://www.newscientist.com/articleimages/mg20127001.300/1-space-storm-alert-90-seconds-from-catastrophe.html
Heres the vulnerable transformers
And the article
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.300-space-storm-alert-90-seconds-from-catastrophe.html
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 pmAnyway, we have been vulnerable to EMP weapons from countries other than North Korea for some time.
What is it with politicians and this constant fear and doom?
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pmIt’s a way to keep non-thinking people afraid and supportive of another illegal war.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:55 pmhas anyone seen the videotape of newt demonstrating the anti-north
korean missile that he is talking about? i’m told it’s pretty amazing.
first they launch a kite (a substitute for the n.k. missile) about 300 feet
into the air. then newt drops his drawers to his ankles, bends over and
points his heinie toward the kite. spreading his cheeks he emits a
powerful laser ray that instantly hits the kite and causes it to burst
into flames and fall harmlessly to the ground.
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hooray, we’re saved!
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April 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pmIt sounds like Newt is getting his information re. EMP from Jack Van Impe. If you are not familiar with Mr. Van Impe, he’s a televangelist with the disgusting habit of saying “Praise Jesus, it’s coming”" and weeping in joy at the prospect of half the World’s population being killed in the Tribulation. He too is wrongly convinced that any atomic explosion anywhere near the U.S. would destroy civilization.
An EMP would be very costly but it’s not the World ending event some would have us believe. Plus I think we should be more concerned with the people directly affected by a nuclear blast. This growing obsession with the effects of EMP is distasteful, because it ignores the horrifying reality of what a nuke would do to people, and it’s fear mongering at it’s worst.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 pmpete,
more on here on our
nutty buddy jack van impe.
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and while you’re there check out jack’s
defense of sarah van palin. funny stuff!
:)
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:37 pmApe-man, I think you are right. the Republican Party no longer exists. All you have are a group of buffoons and crooks; who only know how to say no, good, bad, or indifferent.
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:46 pmWhen is Salamander boy going to begin a drive to raise funds for a US Death Star ?
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pmYeah the GOP no longer exists. It is now going to be know as the Party of RightWingnut Buffoons! Keep it up Newt. OK here’s the line up:
Newt ‘womanizer’ Gingrich,
Rush ‘rascist’ Limbaugh,
Michele ‘Nutcase’ Bachman,
Sarah ‘Prayin’, Moose Huntin’ Palin,
Mike ‘ball-less’ Steele,
Bobby ‘Mr. Rogers’ Jindal,
Beanhead ‘Crybaby’ Boehner,
‘Can’t get it right’ Cantor and
Ole man McConnell
Of course we can’t forget their court jesters, Beck, Hannity and O’SillyHo the media whore! RAHAHAHAAHAHA!
April 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pmLockheed Martin is in his former district. He has gotten quite a bit of campaign money from them in the past.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pmjoe’
“Nutty buddy”? I don’t mean to quibble but, “nutty” is endearing like Robin WIlliams and my “buddies” don’t much like the idea of Armageddon. Jack Van Impe, on the other hand, is a dangerous psychopath.
I think I had seen the clip before. I stumbled across the freak’s show and did a little research. I am amazed and disgusted that such people still exist in the modern world. And it’s terrifying that anyone could listen to him for more than a few seconds without recognizing that he’s stark, raving, mad.
I had not seen his defense of Bible Spice, though I’m hardly surprised. Hilarious, in a frightening way, indeed!
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:05 pmNewt has been watching Star wars again. Somebody take away his light saber please. Those batteries get expensive.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 pmWould Ernst Stavro Blofeld be providing us with said death satellite? Because I didn’t know Dick Cheney also ran SPECTRE.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 pmSure, the North Koreans are going to shoot off a nuclear missile at South Korea or the US. So in retaliation they get wiped off the face of the earth in a heartbeat. Or the Iranians launch one at Israel knowing damned well their country will resemble glass before the dust can settle. What is it about the North Koreans and Iranians? Maybe they have some sort of fetish to experience nuclear annihilation themselves? MAD works, and has kept us all alive since the early days of the Cold War. Nukes are a waste of time and money.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 pmNewt is a neocon, and not to be redundant, but he has close ties with defense contractors that would profit from Star Wars. Comic book threats are second nature to this guy— this isn’t the first time he’s hyperventilated over North Korea.
link
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pmwhile the Military-Congressional-industrial complex plays with very very very expensive and futile toys, the US’s economy keeps geting worse and worse.
April 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 pmGo on Obama/Petreus/Gates! Go and surge in Afgahnistan! Keep ‘looking foward’ there… then, when you look back to the US, it will not be there anymore.
Tell me of one single product that is used in the civilized world today, that is ‘Made in USA’! No! Whiphosforus, cluster Bombs do not count!!!
It feels like there is No “Change”…
“[W]e would go back to a pre-industrial era overnight, in seconds,” Gingrich warned. “It’s a very serious threat”:
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 amIt took Bushco and pals 8 years to just about do the same thing so apparently they’re not quite as clever as those
devilish NKs.
What do you expect from a moron like Gingrich who writes historical fiction about the south winning the civil war,everythings a fabrication.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:35 amI must admit to getting a real sick satisfaction at the daily stupidity of the Republican party. What a cast: Palin, Sam the non plumber, Steele, Newtie boy, Boner “here it is Mr. President! A shiny pamphlet”, oh oh ahh Bachmann, Coulter, can’t forget Bill o and Nazi propaganda film lover Beck, and Limpballs of course. CHuck Norris, I see your ass hidin’ over there too muthaf#cka,
Keep the good times rolling assclowns!
btw, vacuum tube technology is relatively immune to EMP.
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:15 amum, we already have laser cats, so what’s the point.
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 amCB_Brooklyn Says:
Laser technology is no joke. See here to learn how directed energy weapons (HAARP) destroyed the World Trade Center on 9/11:
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
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Meh. Give it a few years – eventually George Lucas will edit the footage so the towers shoot first.
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:05 amToddford Says:
um, we already have laser cats, so what’s the point.
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:07 am
I CAN HAS LIGHT AMPLIFICATION BY STIMULATED EMISSION OF RADIATION?!?
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:06 amNewt is running for President. Of course he is going to play the fear card. He will play it loudly and he will play it often. That is the mantra of todays Republican party. They are the party of no ideas so fear is all that is left for them to use.
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:52 amRepublicans believe that cutting taxes for the rich and bombing other nations will solve all the world’s problems. Again, the party of no ideas, only ideology.
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 amI think we should preemptively arrest, try, and convict Gingrich for treason since we know that, given the opportunity, he would overthrow the current, elected government.
The idea that we’re going to suddenly be shocked one morning to find that Newt has organized an armed insurrection to empower a permanent Republican majority is a very dangerous idea.
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 amUmmm… those laser are no joke. There are laser systems in development featured on Future Weapons, one of the Discovery type series, and they can be fitted on planes and ground systems that can take out missiles with ease… look it up.
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