With charges dropped against Stevens, Alaska GOP now calling on Begich to resign.
With charges dropped against Stevens, Alaska GOP now calling on Begich to resign.
Yesterday, Attorney General Eric Holder said that he was asking a judge to drop all charges against former Alaska senator Ted Stevens because of prosecutorial misconduct by Justice Department lawyers. In response, the Alaska Republican party today sent out a press release hailing the announcement and calling for the resignation of Sen. Mark Begich (D-AK), who defeated Stevens this past November:
The Alaska Republican Party further believes that current Senator Mark Begich should resign his position to allow for a new, special election, so Alaskans may have the chance to vote for a Senator without the improper influence of the corrupt Department of Justice.
The only reason Mark Begich won the election in November is because a few thousand Alaskans thought that Senator Ted Stevens was guilty of seven felonies. Senator Stevens has maintained his innocence and now, even the Department of Justice acknowedges it’s [sic] wrong doing.
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Yeah, sure. Ted Stevens is “innocent.” Uh huh.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:34 pmToo bad, too late…..blame the Bush Justice Dept..
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:34 pmStevens can run again in 6 years. For now elections have consequences.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pmYou just can’t make this stuff up. Old Teddy wants to get right back to work… acquiring more undisclosed, free gifts.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pmDropping charges due to errors does NOT prove innocence. Only Republicans think that.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:36 pmHuh. So Bush should have resigned because Whitewater was a lie.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pmWhat does the GOP envision as a marketing campaign?
“Vote for the new, improved, freshly INNOCENT model!”
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pmSenator Begich, resign?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!
Why don’t we just REDO the entire 11/4/08 election, maybe McCain/Palin will get 200 more votes???
These people are really sickos . .
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pmHe’s not innocent, but don’t let the facts get in the way of your witch hunt. Ted Stevens got off on a technicality, but he still has that wrap-around deck, Viking grill, fish statue, dog, etc. I could understand their argument if Begich was appointed because Stevens was thrown out of the Senate, but why should Begich RESIGN? If they wanted to call for a second special election between Begich and Stevens or something I GUESS I could understand that, but to say that Begich needs to resign so that the Republicans can find someone to run against a completely different Democrat is beyond laughable.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pmFLAG THIS MORON.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pmNo!
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pmAh, yes…the republican ‘do-over.’
Never mind that the republicans have been purposely pulling faux legalistic shenanigans for years. *cough*Coleman*cough*
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pmTough shit.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pmBlame the Bush DOJ.
Elections have consequences.
Gore should be seated as prez in 2016 because of SCOTUS misbehavior.
Boy they can’t stand majority rule, can they. After all they believe the minority rich deserves to rule the country.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 pmYou have GOT to be kidding me. No special election. Stevens was corrupt, remember the nice little remodeling job done for him at no cost? It is just a technicality. Ridiculous! If the shoe was on the other foot, do you think the Repugs would call for a special election? I think not.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pmYou have GOT to be kidding me. No special election. Stevens was corrupt, remember the nice little remodeling job done for him at no cost? It is just a technicality. Ridiculous! If the shoe was on the other foot, do you think the Repugs would call for a special election? I think not.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm6. Support Obama Says: Stevens is a criminal. He’s GOP and that makes him evil.
The GOP is to evil is like Depleted Uranium is to radiation poisoning…not all people get it, but it’s a heckuva lot greater chance.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmLots of republicans are defending the move by the Attorney General to drop all charges against Ted Stevens. Now to me it sounds like the prosecuting attorney’s team purposely screwed up knowing it would lead to the charges being dropped. This seems like a case of twisted “JUSTUS” for Stevens. I mean I had a feeling this would happen when I heard Harry Reid whine that Stevens should go to prison because he served in the government for 30+ years and suffered enough as a WWII veteran. Oh phucking whahhhh. I guess Stevens is above the law because he served in the government for 30 years.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmhas DOJ said anything about stevens’ “innocence”?
maybe holder needs to make a more specific statement…
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmClassic Republican spin!
The preceding REPUBLICAN appointed US Department of Justice is termed “…corrupt.”
The present DEMOCRATIC appointed US Department of Justice asks for dismissal of the charges pending against Senator Stevens, having determined that prosecutorial misconduct on the part of the REPUBLICAN appointed team precludes fair and effective continued prosecution.
And, the Alaska Republican Party insists that the remedy for what they believe is a wrongful conviction is a new election? Nice try! And, upon what statute do they base this suggested remedy? Republican are all about ‘the rule of law’ until it fails to suit their purposes.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 pmIf Stevens’ defeat in November was due to a dirty trick from the opposing party, they MIGHT have a leg to stand on. But that’s a very small “might”.
But the Democrats are blameless on this one. Stevens was caught by the Justice Department UNDER BUSHCO, and the charges were dropped due to THAT Justice Department’s incompetence.
This keeps Stevens out of jail. But until he can prove his innocence with the public, he’s just another perp who got off on a technicality.
If we’re going to do “redo” elections because one candidate was tainted unfairly, we need to redo the 1988 presidential election without the “improper influence” of the Willie Horton case. And we need to redo the 2000 Republican primary without the “improper influence” of lies about McCain’s Bangladeshi daughter. Etc. Etc.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:50 pmWhy should Begich resign? He won far and square. He wasn’t the one with corruption charges filed against him. He wasn’t on the prosecuting team for the JUSTUS department who were charged with misconduct.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:50 pmSorry, elections count for something in this country. Except, apparently, in Minnesota.
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pmStevens asserts he wasn’t corrupt…but now, wants to unseat a democratically elected senator?
Not corrupt….RIIIIIGHT!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pmWe would also have to “redo” the 1980 election because Raygun & Poppy were two treasonous b@stards who went behind Carter’s back and illegally negotiated a delayed release of the hostages.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:53 pmI think this is great. Holder showed real non-partisan class in dropping the case and the Republicans are too stupid to get the hint.
It’s a “permanent minority” party their going for, right? Keep up the good work, you short-sided bafoons.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pmMaybe Ted should sue Alberto Gonzales.
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pmRepublicans are funny! “Do over! Do over!”
It’s like they’re permanently stuck in fourth grade — but I do have to wonder where those voices were in 2000. Not so big on a “do over” in Florida, were they?
April 2nd, 2009 at 12:59 pmMan, give an inch – take a mile…much?
There is a difference between an attorney general throwing out a conviction because of prosecutorial misconduct, and Ted Stevens actually being innocent…
Try as they may to gain a small victory here and there, now they are just grasping for some really short straws.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:01 pmAccording to tweedy’s show last night the prosecutor refused to give up a letter that steven’s wrote to the construction company basically stating:
Dear Construction Company,
Please send me a bill for the work that was done to my house. I need a bill because I don’t want to look like so-n-so who was found guilty of receiving gifts.
Love,
Teddy
HAHAHAHA…teddy should shut up and accept his gifts…no jail time, name restored (somewhat) and his long standing record.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pmif there is any king of do-over, wouldn’t it be a new trial?
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pmJust because Holder dropped the charges doesn’t mean that Stevens isn’t guilty. It just indicates how much the Bush administration’s corrosive incompetence poisoned the Justice department.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 pmThe folks of Alaska don’t need a do over. They know what a corrupt buffoon their Senator was. Isn’t Murkowski coming up for re-election? He can take her seat if he’s so desperate for cash.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pmbut, why would bush DOJ go after stevens?
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pmGOP = I N S A N E
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pmAfter seeing how the rest of the country reacted to the antics of my ex governor Blagojevich and now Senator Burris, and all the garbage that has been spewed over the various media, I think Alaskans should be able to sort their political mess out without having to deal too much from comments from the peanut gallery.
Family fights are messy enough without outside help.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pmWe’ll get right on making arrangements for that special election. We should be ready by November 2014. We’ll keep Stevens posted on our progress. Thank you for your concern about fair elections. It is inspiring.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:06 pmSarah Palin should resign her position to allow for a new, special election, so Alaskans may have the chance to vote for a Governor who is not a complete imbecile.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:06 pmLakeview Greg Says:
“Family fights are messy enough without outside help.”
I hear you and in a major way, but this does involve the US Senate.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pmDidn’t you know the wingnuts would do this?
I think the money should be committed to try Stevens again. It isn’t like he is innocent; hell he has been more corrupt for more years than anyone in existence.
Eric Holder should just appoint someone who will adhere to prosecutorial standards and do this all over again. No matter Steven’s age, he needs to do some jail time. Hell, he jacked his house up to add a story and claimed he knew nothing about it.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pmI agree. The Republicans should STFU.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pmThe corrupt BUSH Department of Justice…how soon the Republicans forget.
And the current Department of Justice should re-file charges because everyone knows that corrupt old fart is guilty.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pmGood gawd, give the bastar@s an inch and they want the whole fu[king state. I agree with the others about 2000. However, in my humble opinion, it wasn’t just the republicans that took control of the situation, others let what control they had slip away and they are partially to blame for today’s condition. They should have known from the bush family history what we would be in for.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pmIt’s not like they can get a soul transfusion and miraculously become human beings.
We should start a call for the Justice Department to return Steven’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” baseball cap.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 pmBegich should stay right where he is. There is no question of fairness with the election results, and nobody said that the venerable slitherer, Stevens is not a dishonest and rightfully digraced s.o.b. The issue is how bad the Bush Justice Department was, and how it still cries out for reform.
Now, let’s have Don Siegelman’s conviction similarly vacated, as the prosecutorial improprieties and indeed, malfeasance were worse than what happened with Stevens by a magnitude.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pmWHEN ARE YOU PEOPLE GOING TO WAKE UP? THIS WAS ALL POLITICAL THEATRE CONSTRUCTED BY THE POLYARCHY….OBAMA AND HIS MINIONS HAVE SOLD OUT.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pmAgreed katydid, if there is to be any kind of “do over” let’s start with a new trial. If he is then found innocent he will be free to run a campaign just like anybody else in the NEXT election. This corrupt old fool should be thanking whatever god he prays to that he is not in jail right now. Jeebus, what is it with Alaskan politics?
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pmWell, they’ve got balls, anyway.
If anyone needed further illustration of the term “batsh#t crazy”, here ya go.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pmLet’s use the power of the Intertubes to ask Ted himself if he should run again.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pmAt a local blog one of the trolls attacked me for claiming the prosecuting attorneys screwed up on purpose to assure that the charges would be dropped. The troll called me a tinfoil hat wearer and my comment was nothing but a conspiracy theory AND yet the troll then stated “This case served it’s main purpose, to take another conservative seat out of the senate”
Wow whose wearing the tinfoil hat? Notice the troll doesn’t care about the corruption charges against Stevens, only that he lost his senate seat in some grand conspiracy.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:16 pmAG Holder’s response to this DOJ mess was classy. Prosecutors giving evidence to defense counsel is Lawyering 101. That said, if Stevens (not the Alaska GOP) is not happy with the outcome, then he should ask for and be granted a retrial. If Stevens had been tried and acquitted, he still would have no standing for undoing the election results because no one can accurately or honestly say “The only reason Mark Begich won the election in November is because a few thousand Alaskans thought that Senator Ted Stevens was guilty of seven felonies”.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 pmFurther, even if we found ourselves on the other side of the looking glass, what make these brain frozen imbeciles think that a Democratic majority would seat that corrupt old bastard. They could, and should, let him freeze his ass on his free deck until they can get two thirds of the Senate to expel him.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pmHey Stevens, there’s an Alaskan senate seat up for election next year. If you think you’re the best senator for Alaska, feel free to challenge Murkowski in the primary.
The Alaskan GOP, the people who brought Palin to power. Is there anything more ridiculous?
PEACE
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pmOT: Dow over 8000 – where are all the trolls crying that Obama is ruining the economy? (I know the Dow is NOT the economy, but the trolls don’t know that)
If ignorance is bliss, right wingers should be a lot happier than they are.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pmMe thinks the republican’ts doth protest too much.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pmNo, he does care about Stevens’ corruption. Everyone knows that all Republicans are corrupt. Republicans will only vote for someone who they think is corrupt. For instance, no Republican can win a GOP primary unless they publicly announce that they are shameless corporate whores. Republican voters don’t trust anyone who is honest.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pmeyesopen Says:
what make these brain frozen imbeciles think that a Democratic majority would seat that corrupt old bastard.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:27 pmApril 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
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Careful…Harry Reid was whining that Stevens should go to prison so…
oops…Reid was whining that Stevens shouldn’t go to prison. These crooks protect one another all of the time.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:29 pm.
Hey, it’s only fair. And now that we know that Dubya & Dick were lying, cheating, torturing, thieving incompetent a-holes all along, we should make Gore President. In trade for NOT prosecuting D&D.
Oh, wait. We have a President. He was even elected fairly.
My bad, never mind, bygones.
“DO-OVER!!!” BWAHHAWHAWHAW!!! Where were those Republicans in 2000? Screaming at “crybaby” Democrats? Hm?
Hey, we awarded you guys a “Cosie” and ordered our legions, er, legion, er, rifle squad of fans to give your blog money.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm.
eyesopen Says: …
Now, let’s have Don Siegelman’s conviction similarly vacated, as the prosecutorial improprieties and indeed, malfeasance were worse than what happened with Stevens by a magnitude.
exactly…
heard him on thom hartman yesterday…
we all need to let holder know it’s time to do the right thing by an INNOCENT man.
http://donsiegelman.com/
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pmbut, seriously, why would bush DOJ go after stevens?
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:31 pmkatydid Says:
but, seriously, why would bush DOJ go after stevens?
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Exactly! This is the same Justice department that threw two border guard agents in jail for doing their job and yet some old phuck charged with seven felonies get off free. Like I said they should rename the Justice Department the “JustUs” department.
katydid, they did! Ain’t life strange!
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pmBut they deliberately held back evidence and probably then the same bastards called attention to it to get the case dropped.
And unfortunately, as much as we would all like to see Ted’s ass in jail, he can’t be tried for the same crime, with the same evidence, twice. So unless therewere a few more charges that they didn’t bother to bring up the first time, he can’t be retried.
katydid, they did! Ain’t life strange!
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pmBut they deliberately helpd back evidence and probably then the same bastards called attention to it to get the case dropped.
And unfortunately, as much as we would all like to see Ted’s ass in jail, he can’t be tried for the same crime, with the same evidence, twice. So unless therewere a few more charges that they didn’t bother to bring up the first time, he can’t be retried.
Sorry for the double post, I was trying to edit the typo. Which didn’t work.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pmLakeview Greg Says
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I think Alaskans should be able to sort their political mess out without having to deal too much from comments from the peanut gallery.
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I agree this is mostly a matter for Alaskans, just as the whole Blagojevich/Burris matter was mostly for the people of Illinois. The whole idea of representation in Washington is that the people get to decide who will represent them, despite what the rest of the country thinks (and I know about this because I live in a state that sent Jesse Helms to the Senate FIVE TIMES).
But “mostly” a matter isn’t “totally”. So what business is it of ours? If the GOP is actually successful in getting this bizarre plan off the ground, they will have succeeded in getting a guy who was elected by the people (and has done nothing wrong) to resign and be forced to go through another expensive campaign just to keep his job.
This is not only unfair, it sets a dangerous precedent. Imagine if it becomes the norm for every losing candidate to find some “improper influence” in the election, forcing a do-over. Coleman/Franken and Stevens/Begich situations would abound all over the country, and Capitol Hill would be empty for lack of any elected representatives to seat. And this would affect both parties — being as likely to bite Republicans in the butt as well as Democrats.
The GOP is better off leaving this one alone — not only for the good of the country, but for the good of their party as well.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pmI think former Senator Stevens just needs to retire and be glad this is azz is free!
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pmcosanostradamus ~ Nice post, and even nicer handle!!
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pmThis is hilarious…in a really sad and desperate way.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pmsorry typing too fast – lol – what I meant to say was Senator Stevens needs to retire and be glad that his azz is free! LOLOL
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pmrastaman Says:
“OBAMA AND HIS MINIONS HAVE SOLD OUT.”
But, what if this was a move to appear non-partisan when they finally decide to go after the Bush Administration? …that’s what I’m holding out hope for, anyway.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pmAnd of course they’re calling on the governor of Arkansas to resign as well, so that Don Siegelman can run against him. Because they are in no way hypocrites.
Except they are.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pmWow, talk about huge balls. . .
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pmSeems to me that one of the first things a prosecutor learns in law school is the idea of “full disclosure.” Well, that plus showing up in court on time. So now we’re being asked to believe that they simply “forgot” to turn over crucial evidence to Steven’s lawyers which tainted the case to the point where the DOJ was forced to drop the charges.
Bull-farking-shit. Those prosecutors blew the case on purpose. They were Steven’s “get out of jail free” card. I want the FBI to dig into every association they had. At the very least, they’re guilty of gross incompetence and should be fired just for that.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pmNutWrench, I beg to differ.
Those prosecutors should be fired AND dis-barred.
They have just given every defense attorney, on every single case they have prosecuted, grounds for appeal. What a frickin’ nightmare.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 pmBullsmith Says:
And of course they’re calling on the governor of Arkansas to resign as well, so that Don Siegelman can run against him. Because they are in no way hypocrites.
Except they are.
What? Please explain who “they” are.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:06 pmSorry, but the election is over. Dropping Stevens’ charges did not stipulate that he is innocent but that there was prosecutorial misconduct (Bush’s DoJ).
As for that misconduct, this could have been planned sabotage, knowing the case would never make it through appeal, and to lay the gound for just such a proposal as this.
To ask Begich to resign is a ludicrous proposition.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pmHe won. Period. Election is over. There are no do-overs, but then again, repugs always behave like school children don’t they?
Begich to Stevens:
“Lol, no.”
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:19 pmgoldsmith = one who fashions gold into objects
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:27 pmwordsmith = one who fashions words into reading material
bullsmith = one who fashions bullsh*t into blog posts
Unclie Ted just hang in there he can run again when he’s 92 years old and kick butt. I look for Sarah to ask Obama/Biden to step down next.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm“With charges dropped against Stevens, Alaska GOP now calling on Begich to resign.”
lol That’s the joke of the day. Asking Begich to resign is like asking Obama to resign as President and hand over the Presidency to Gramps McSame. Seriously, Stevens needs to build a bridge and get over it and find a new line of work.
April 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pmI keep wondering if the “prosecutorial misconduct” was intentional, to allow Mr. Stevens to evade conviction / sentencing.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:18 pmHe was guilty! A legal technicality will set him free. He is just a lucky beneficiary of a U.S. Attorney General who is, can you believe it, ethical!
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmAnd screw the idiot republicans calling for the resignation of a lawfully elected Democrat to represent Alaska.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pmTell him not to give in:
http://www.begich.com/
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmAnonymouse Says:
I keep wondering if the “prosecutorial misconduct” was intentional, to allow Mr. Stevens to evade conviction / sentencing.
That’s pretty much what I have thought from the beginning. I’m not sure why the Bush Justice Department charged Stevens in the first place, but I truly believe they made sure that if he was convicted, the conviction wouldn’t stand.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 pmThis could not have turned out better…..we got the seat and the innocent gets freedom. I think while the Democrats are in power this little scheme could be repeated multiple times. After all, ALL politicians are guilty of something just look at Obamas cabinet and appointees. So a system of “catch and release” is ok as long as the ends justify the means. Tax cheats under, say, $40,000.00 are no problem at all any more and I am sure we can add other “small” offenses to the list as well. As hard as it is to keep qualified people in very important positions nowadays (evey one has smoked dope, cheated on their tax, had homosexual affairs or the regular affairs at one time or another) this procedure should be expanded.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 pmSlappyBastinado Says:
This could not have turned out better…..we got the seat and the innocent gets freedom.
Except that Stevens is not innocent.
Folks, I think we have another “concern” troll here. They are becoming thick like a mosquito infestation.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pmDid anybody actually follow the case? The edvidence the prosecutors withheld was evidence that proves Stevens innocence, that would of contradicted all the testomonies against Stevens. And the whole court procedings did effect his chance duringt he election. He didn’t get a chance to campaign and if you ask people in Alaska they didn’t vote for him because of the whole court debaticle.
And people need to stop calling the man curropt. He’s one of the longeest running senators and he is the lowest paid. Has anybody seen the mans house? It’s a whole 800 sq ft.. He’s the most humble senator you’ll ever meet.
People need to start doing some fact checking before running their mouth. You want to talk about corrupt, look at Obama. The man comes from the place that wrote the book on curropt politics.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pmSince when does prosecutorial misconduct equate to guilt free?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pmDumglare Says:
People need to start doing some fact checking before running their mouth. You want to talk about corrupt, look at Obama. The man comes from the place that wrote the book on curropt politics.
Okay, we’ll fact check. You spell check.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pmDeal?
“With charges dropped against Stevens, Alaska GOP now calling on Begich to resign.”
lol That’s the joke of the day. Asking Begich to resign is like asking Obama to resign as President and hand over the Presidency to Gramps McSame. Seriously, Stevens needs to build a bridge and get over it and find a new line of work.
Don’t breathe easy just yet. There are a few wingnuts out there who claim that since Obama is supposedly not a U.S. citizen, he must resign or be forced out of office. Of course those idiots assume that McCain will be given the presidency automatically, LOL.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pmDumglare whines:
It’s a whole 800 square feet
In what universe do you reside in?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pmDumglare claims:
He didn’t get a chance to campaign and if you ask people in Alaska they didn’t vote for him because of the whole court debaticle.
Debaticle?
Maybe one shouldn’t accuse others of running their mouth when running one’s mouth improperly and uneducated, eh?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmdebatical = a respite from logical discourse (from “debate” and “sabbatical”), often misspelled by trolls as “debaticle”
You would think that trolls would know how to spell the words that are the most important techniaues they employ.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm“In what universe do you reside in?”
Your right I stand correct, I was off by a 400sq ft.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmI was refereing to his house before the remodel which was around 1200 sqft. on that picture you posted that’s the house after the remodel. Cut off the whole lower half and that’s what his house use to be. Most middle wage people in Anchorage have a bigger house then he did.
So if somebody has different view on something it automatically considered a “troll?” And all you can do is attack their spelling, sad. Yes spelling isn’t one of my strong points. Can you admit your faults or are you perfect?
The fact is that comments on here kept saying that the prosecution was trying to help stevens by hiding evedince when in fact the evidence that was hiddin would of proved his innocence. The judge couldn’t stand the whole case and just wanted to throw it out but he didn’t, why do you think that is, that’s the million dollar question. Best conspiracy theory, he was told that if he didn’t go through with the trial he would loose his job.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 pmUhh Dumglare, total square footage is around 2700.
What remedial math are you working on this week?
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pmDumglare,
Quit your beyatching.
You came on here spouting at us to fact check.
I did.
You lied.
2471 does not equal 800, nor 1200.
Stop playing the victim when it’s you who came out swinging (poorly).
Sheesh, I get tired of the “poor poor me” ploy.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pmOne more thing, DumGlare the Victim, before I head off to my 400 sq foot mansion, it is you who said:
You want to talk about corrupt, look at Obama. The man comes from the place that wrote the book on curropt politics.
Being from Illinois, whose major city happens to be Chicago, does not automatically make one “curropt”.
See, you came out swinging (poorly), I called you on it, PLC called you on it, and now you whine like a 4 year old.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pmDumglare,
Quit your beyatching.
You came on here spouting at us to fact check.
“I did.
You lied.
2471 does not equal 800, nor 1200.
Stop playing the victim when it’s you who came out swinging (poorly).
Sheesh, I get tired of the “poor poor me” ploy.”
2471 is double of what the old sqft use to be. so it use to be 1235.5 rounded down to 1200. Last I checked it still okay to round number these days. i dind’t realize your math is so sophisticated that you can’t handle simple round numbers.
And I still say check your #ucking facts you #hit for brains. If you can’t even follow a trial case properly then STFU.
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 pmDumglare,
Love ya!
Have a nice day, and a wonderful, productive life!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pmOh, one more thing before I really do go.
It was you who spouted:
Has anybody seen the mans house? It’s a whole 800 sq ft.
It’s is an abbreviation for it is which indicates present tense.
Not it was which indicates past tense.
Again, you lied.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pmYou’re cute, though.
For a whiny 4 year old!
Sunglare Says
April 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
He’s one of the longeest running senators and he is the lowest paid.
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Lowest paid? Where do you get that information?
This isn’t a major league sports team where salaries are negotiated by agents. Salaries for ALL Senators (with the exception of party leaders and the Senate President pro tempore) is currently set at $169,300 per year. (The President pro tempore and party leaders get $188,100.) Seniority has no bearing on salary — neither does what state the Senator represents, or whether the Senator is in the majority or minority party. I suppose you could say that Stevens was “lowest paid”, but he was in a tie with about 95 other Senators.
I agree that Stevens was in the Senate for a long time. But seniority itself doesn’t make the man any more noble than a freshman Senator.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:11 pmLowest paid? Where do you get that information?
From where the sun don’t glare.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pmWait a minute. I thought the Reichwhiners don’t like criminals getting off on technicalities. Are they really going to try to juggle a campaign to throw out an election when they squeal like pigs if a “common criminal” is released due to prosecutor misconduct?
snark/on
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 pmAre they going to start pressing for the release of detainees who have been denied due process? snark/off
LOL!
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 pmHey Ted Stevens – Gary Condit called. he says SUCK. ON. THIS.
April 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 pmWhat a joke! The repubs are really desperate.
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 pmBBWWWaaaahhhaaa……..LOL……rolling on floor……………it never ceases to amaze how goofy these guys can get…amazing…..
April 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 pmWow, they’re finally admitting THEIR DOJ was corrupt, but only now that the corruption hurt them. But they didn’t have a thing to complain abouot with the prosecutor firings and the subsequent cover-up…
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 pmSince we are talking theory…I think the prosecutors misconduct was to make it look like Palin was fighting corruption as Rove was saying the 2008 elections would be about corruption.
Palin, IIRC, did try to play the corruption fighter angle for a bit there..
BTW I think it was Stevens giant BBQ grill he got as a gift was 800 sq ft. [I keed! =]
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 pmThe McCain/Rove folks would have no problem throwing old Stevens under the bus to get corruption fighting Palin, who ‘dared to take on the good old boys’, into office.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm> The edvidence the
> prosecutors withheld was
> evidence that
> proves Stevens innocence,
> that would of contradicted
> all the testomonies against Stevens.
Wow..all of the teste-monies?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 amCare to tell us what this evidence is?
Sunglare Says:
WHAT is that a joke? You say WE should look at the facts? Are you an infant? Did he or did he NOT take gifts? Why yes he did, he didnt even DENY he did. Did he or did he NOT fail to disclose those gifts? Why yes he DID fail to disclose those gifts this is NOT in dispute. So exactly WHAT could have POSSIBLY proven him innocent of failing to disclose such gifts?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:48 amThe gall of that woman ‘who won’t go away’ and any that agree that Begich should step down. The republicans have become far too complacent in their ability to steal elections that now they feel all they need do is say ’so&so’ should step down no matter if he/she were appointed or legitimately elected.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pmThank you very much.
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