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Brooks: ‘The Idea That We Shouldn’t Be Rooting’ For Obama Is ‘Just Stupid’

Last February, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) broke with Rush Limbaugh — de facto leader of the Republican Party — and said that he wants President Obama to succeed. “We absolutely…want our president to succeed,” he said. However just last week, Jindal became the latest to join the Boss’s ranks. Discussing whether he personally wants Obama to fail, Jindal simply said, “it depends.”

Today on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal, conservative columnist David Brooks ridiculed those on the right who have said they want Obama to fail. During the segment, a caller — who claimed to be phoning in from “a club” in Georgia full of “all white folks, all millionaires and good Republicans” — begged Brooks to “come on board” with Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Fox News to “get on Mr. Obama’s case.” “We got to bring that man down,” the caller said, adding, “We just cannot have eight years of this black man.”

To his credit, Brooks first dismissed the caller’s racist comment and then railed against the right wing’s desire to attack Obama at every step:

BROOKS: It’s tremendously important to put color and prejudice aside and see him for what he is, which is just an incredibly impressive smart man. [...] And I just think it’s incredibly important to root for the guy, whether you agree with every policy. [...] But the idea that we shouldn’t be rooting for our president strikes me as not only, I don’t know about unpatriotic, it’s just stupid. We should be rooting for our president because it’s rooting for ourselves.

Watch it:

Brooks — who has recently become a constant critic of the Republican Party — isn’t the only conservative to hit back at Limbaugh this week. Yesterday, when CNN’s Rick Sanchez asked GOP Rep. Zach Wamp (TN) if he sides with Limbaugh, Wamp said Limbaugh is more of an “entertainer,” adding, “We really need serious-minded policy people to help chart this ship of state out of these rocky waters right now.”

Given that most of the Republicans who first criticized Limbaugh but then came crawling back to apologize were elected officials, it is more likely that Wamp will be the one that has to fall back in line.



380 Responses to “Brooks: ‘The Idea That We Shouldn’t Be Rooting’ For Obama Is ‘Just Stupid’”

  1. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    (R)uspublickin’s are takin’ a lickin’ from the G(no)P tongue lashin’.

    .


  2. Ojore says:

    Good for David Brooks.


  3. spencers butterfly mom says:

    The Ditto Heads, Racists and Fundies are all the GNOP has left. All the smart people have already left the party.

    In many ways I’m glad my parents didn’t live to see what became of their party.

    PEACE


  4. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Next, Mr. Brooks needs to address the G(no)P and tell them to become the Party of YES!

    … Doh!

    .


  5. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Some call b-cup STAT!

    Limbaugh needs defendin’ again!


  6. fire _ant_chavis says:

    At least Brooks has good sense and can speak for himself! Wamp, I’ll give til Monday before he apologizes to Rush.

    My goodness, didn’t that caller sound drunk and toothlessssss?! ROTFL! What kind of club was that? What was he ’sippin’ on? No wonder the GOP is on a downward spiral.


  7. Wang111 says:

    Everybody should root for Barack Obama.

    Barack Obama has become a good president.

    Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
    B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
    Messiah College, Grantham, PA
    Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993


  8. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    Not that I care for conservatives or their ideology…but a real conservative must feel really low about the state of their party.


  9. spencers butterfly mom says:

    Wang, I will venture to guess that you are perhaps the only Obama supporter to come out of Messiah. But it’s also good to see, and gives me hope that the Born Agains will finally look at the overall person and not the wedge issues that are so shoved in your faces by the GNOP leaders who drag them out every election cycle to get your votes.

    PEACE


  10. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Americans not falling for media’s misleading coverage of economy
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY71TeYQ4s8

    .


  11. pete says:

    I still can’t figure Brooks out. He’s smarmy and condescending yet, he’s not stupid or crazy. But? He continues to carry water for stupid, crazy, Republicans based on some bizarre criteria that he never seems to reveal.

    The guy has a very strange disconnect that prevents him from simply coming out and saying that the GOP is toast.


  12. blistex11 says:

    The american tide is turning and Obama is soaring. Now we’ll see those wannabes in the GOP begin to talk truth.

    The Rush Limpballs neo-clown days are over. If they characterize him as an “entertainer” I have to wonder how Repturds like their pleasure?? Sadism anyone?


  13. Ape-Man says:

    Was that caller a plant? He must have been an actor! At least Brooks didn’t encourage him. The caller needs ta be edjima-cated!


  14. joe cantwell says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:
    Some call b-cup STAT!

    Limbaugh needs defendin’ again!

    ***

    ralph,

    he was last seen over at the

    O’Reilly: My Harassment Machine Is ‘A Legitimate Brand Of Journalism’

    post getting his troll a$$

    kicked by hanshiro the antlion

    ***

    it was not a pretty sight.

    right now i would imagine he’s

    feeling a bit dazed and confused.

    :)


  15. blistex11 says:

    pete: Suffice it to say that thanks to Bush’s illegal spying on journalists, Brooks knows that if he steps out of line very far, a mountain of pain will come crashing down on his head. That’s why he’s trying to walk that fine line. The line exists between being blackmailed by the GOP and speaking the truth. On one hand, he recognizes that if he’s lying his fool a$$ off, he’s losing viewers and recognition; on the other hand, the fires of hell will come raining down upon him if he speaks too much truth. I think they have him by the cajones myself that’s why he appears wishy-washy and smarmy.


  16. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    pete Says:

    The guy has a very strange disconnect that prevents him from simply coming out and saying that the GOP is toast.

    That disconnect is known as a paycheck!


  17. blistex11 says:

    hstps: Sorry – wrong man! Wrong time and wrong venue! It’s Bush who tanked our economy and you know it. Crawl back into your hole until you’re thinking clearly and crisply.


  18. blistex11 says:

    hstps: Perhaps now that YOUR party has spent our great grandchildren’s earnings, you’d like to join the rest of the idiots and morons who are now espousing that we have a “spending freeze”…..ahahahhahahahaha! No fool like an April fool.


  19. blistex11 says:

    #15: Typical Republiscum “wanker”. What a joking idiot.


  20. gummble-bee-itch says:

    hstps2 Says:

    Either this troll is plagiarizing up a storm, or has already submitted this drivel previously after Obama’s Town Hall.

    Given trollish tendency toward plagiarism, I’m guessing it’s the former.



  21. spencers butterfly mom says:

    hstps2 FLAGGED!

    Off topic cut and paster!

    PEACE


  22. gummble-bee-itch says:

    pete Says:

    I still can’t figure Brooks out. He’s smarmy and condescending yet, he’s not stupid or crazy. But? He continues to carry water for stupid, crazy, Republicans based on some bizarre criteria that he never seems to reveal.

    Real wingers and “conservatives” dismiss Brooks as not being a “real” conservative, probably because he’s willing to think an issue through rather than offer a knee-jerk ideological response.


  23. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Nice detective work, gum.


  24. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Why does this troll think his crap smells any better the second time around?

    It’s not leftover lasagna, fer crissake.


  25. spencers butterfly mom says:

    Gee, you plagiarizing pig, hstps2. Look what I found:

    http://m.digg.com/politics/Obama_Town_Hall_Questioners_Were_ALL_Campaign_Backers?offset=15

    Your post here is a direct cut and past from “whopper1024 on 03/28/2009″

    Fcuk off, loser! Go find some other board to post your crap.

    To the rest of the TPers, I bid you

    PEACE


  26. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    hstps2,

    why do you want everyone to know

    that you’re a thief?

    >>>


  27. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    hstps2 Says

    Flag me…it feels sooooo gooooood.


  28. Jackie says:

    Brooks has not only worked for Bush for 8 years but had a love fest when he got to interview the idiot George W. Bush. One would have thought this was a love affair. Now Brooks like other suck ups is changing his tune. Yes notice who doesn’t get called on or interviews with the current President. Brooks like Chris Matthews and others are now acting like the last 8 years never happen. Brooks has attacked Barack Obama from day one. He called Hillary everything in the book and now it’s seen the light or is it his job. As the news Papers go out of business people like Brooks are trying to get on the Obama bus. Paul Krugman the famous Nobel Prize winner is so green eyed with envy he can’t get anything right anymore.


  29. Ape-Man says:

    Brooks is just squirming cause he feels the heat. Baoner has decreed that republicans shall continue lying to make their arguments and that’s fine by Brooks, but the informed are now a step ahead of the lies, and Brooks senses personal danger that he can do little about.


  30. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Way to go, mods.

    The troll is gone and so is his pile of feces.


  31. CParis says:

    Brooks is a weenie who just sucks up to whoever is in power. For 8 years, he kissed GOP ass; now that it’s clear the GOP has totally lost their way, he’s jumped on the ObamaWagon.
    The man has no integrity.


  32. joe cantwell says:

    spencer,

    both hiv2 and some wing nut named whopper1024

    stole it from a speech by a british mep named

    daniel hannan. you can see it here on youtube.

    :)


  33. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    #29 hstps2

    SPAM

    FLAGGED

    ‘NUF SAID!

    .


  34. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Wow,
    I bet we’ll be blessed by hstps3 soon enough.


  35. spencers butterfly mom says:

    Joe, I just did a quick google of a specific phrase, and found many, many hits. It was painfully obvious that that particular troll never had an original thought but was more than willing to post and post and post someone else’s.

    Thanks TP moderators, for freeing us from that one!

    PEACE


  36. blistex11 says:

    hstps2: Here’s who most americans are blaming for this mess:

    http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/have-americans-finally-gotten-wise-m

    Do the research wingnut before soiling your panties in public.


  37. katydid says:

    To his credit, Brooks first dismissed the caller’s racist comment …

    that’s as far as i got, so far.

    i dunno. maybe it’s high time to stop dismissing racism…

    i’ll read on…


  38. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    blistex11,
    See post #10 :)


  39. blistex11 says:

    David Brooks really meant to say “unpatriotic” and “treasonous”, didn’t he?


  40. krazeeinjun says:

    @13 Ape-Man Says:
    Was that caller a plant? He must have been an actor! At least Brooks didn’t encourage him. The caller needs ta be edjima-cated!

    I lived in Mississippi for a year while in the military in 1980. If that caller was an actor or a plant that was a dead-spot-on imitation of some of the ass-backwards “decent” “moral” “christian” white folk (I’m white too) I encountered during my time there. Obviously not much has changed in nearly 30 years — sad but true.

    Just saying . . .


  41. blistex11 says:

    #39: You got it! Americans are wisening up – finally!

    That’s also why MSNBC is soaring right now and CNN has fallen behind.


  42. katydid says:

    BROOKS: It’s tremendously important to put color and prejudice aside and see him for what he is, which is just an incredibly impressive smart man.

    ok. well, that doesn’t sound like “Brooks first dismissed the caller’s racist comment”… and the rant was helpful…
    thank you, david brooks.


  43. katydid says:

    … it is more likely that Wamp will be the one that has to fall back in line.

    pipe dream: wamp gets behind the TRUTH DOCTRINE movement…


  44. flight says:

    hstps2
    I have read your words and I sit here amazement, This
    President has been in office for two months and you are
    transferring ownership of the country’s fiscal crisis
    squarely in his lap with all your pontifications. I think
    you are very dishonest, do not have a clue to the dimensions
    or scope of the problems. One important factor with the large
    budget is simply book keeping. No expenses were kept of the books, a favorite and dishonest ploy of the Bush administration.I wonder if you ranted and raved about the fiscal misdeeds of the previous administration.

    Again, how honest are you?


  45. blistex11 says:

    How interesting – I looked for the troll’s blabber (hstps2) and it’s vanished – poof! Three flags and you’re out? If so, that’s one quick way to eject a bloviating troll. Good to know.


  46. blistex11 says:

    I see that only was a temporary fix. Flag that blabbermouth who hogs up the thread now. Who needs his cut and paste nonsense?


  47. delafield says:

    Caller from Georia says, “You got to help us bring him (Obama) down”.

    Did that C_SPAN from Georgia just threaten the life of President Obama?


  48. blistex11 says:

    Wow! Good job TP! You guys (moderators) are the best.


  49. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    blistex11,
    Now Americans need to connect their understanding of our political system to the education they’ve received through the MSM and it’s fixed-fact biases paid for by lobbyist and donors of the Conservative movement.

    Here’s a show this Sunday that, if done properly, holds much promise. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/explorer/4085/Overview#tab-Videos/06536_00
    But notice, National Geographic Channel is 50% owned by the same “credible” folks who bring us Fox News. And the host, Mike Wallace. My math says that much is spun to soften the over all impact so as to not disturb the the fragile mind of “real” Americans.

    “Out of sight… Out of mind”
    I’ll just take my Prozac and I’ll feel better in the am…

    .


  50. spencers butterfly mom says:

    flight Says:

    hstps2
    I have read your words and I sit here amazement

    flight, they were not it’s words, they were plagiarized and posted on every thread on TP today.

    Hopefully the mods have gotten rid of it permanently.

    PEACE


  51. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    i wish the mods had left it up as

    proof positive that america’s

    movement conservatism has run completely

    out of original ideas and now has to

    go over to england and steal a speech that

    a hack british politician was making about

    gordon brown.

    **

    how often do you think

    these guys got caught cheating

    in school?

    :|


  52. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    blistex11,
    Account canceled and poof… posts disappear like magic, least I think it works like that. He’s been (R)anting like that for days now and I’ve flagged just about every one, I think.


  53. pete says:

    I’ll admit it. I’m confused. We seem to have experienced time travel and a troll who disappears, reappears, and disappears.

    I think it’s time to crack open a beer.


  54. pete says:

    joe cantwell Says:

    how often do you think
    these guys got caught cheating
    in school?

    Since most appear to be unschooled, or home”schooled”, I would have to say: Never!

    That’s why they still can’t figure out that intellectual dishonesty only works on morons and criminals.


  55. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Matt,
    See Joe at #21.
    And watch, replacing Obama with M.P.


  56. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    pete,
    “That’s not cookie crumbs on my face mom. I was turd diving in the kitty litter.”…
    … “Honestly, the cat ate my homework and I was on a retrieval mission.”


  57. flight says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    flight Says:

    hstps2
    I have read your words and I sit here amazement

    flight, they were not it’s words, they were plagiarized and posted on every thread on TP today.

    Hopefully the mods have gotten rid of it permanently.

    PEACE

    First thing I saw in two days, I hope I didn’t pontificate too much.
    Thanks and humbley flight


  58. tombaker says:

    better than mouth-kissin’ him like ol’dubbie always did

    can’t you remember that far back – tweaker?


  59. tombaker says:

    you do mean the same abdullah that Poppy and Dubbie borrowed all their $ from, dontcha??

    the one they’ve both made out with???

    you are as weak as they come, h_c – get off the ice.


  60. krazeeinjun says:

    Hippie_crusher Says: (something idiotic as expected from a conservatard)

    Right Hc — because lord knows, bowing is certainly much worse of a message to send to the wingnuts than Bush smooching and holding hands with the same Saudi King.

    http://dohiyimir.typepad.com/bush-abdulah.jpg

    Lame try a$$hat — care to give it another shot?

    Just saying . . .


  61. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Hippie_crusher,
    The DFH were right!

    XXOO
    America

    .


  62. pete says:

    Speaking of “losers”. Have not the Reichwhiners, and GOoPers in general, been soundly defeated in the last two election cycles?

    You really need a new gimmick, stupid troll.


  63. Bozo The Neocootiebug says:

    something tells me hippie crusher is gone…it is his night to be in the middle of the bukkake over in freeperville.


  64. tom says:

    I am sure that caller was a real bonafide brain-dead ditto-head. He showed just exactly how bankrupt, bigotted and ignorant the average Limpballs listener is. Thankfully, these people tend to die early from walking in front of moving cars, drinking themselves to death and playing with matches. Add to that the fact that the average age of Limpball’s audience is 67 and you have the recipe for his impending flame-out.

    Limpballs will soon be getting his just desserts. If you’ve seen the bloated gasbag lately, however, you would have to agree that he’s been getting more than his share of desserts for quite awhile.


  65. joe cantwell says:

    this has been an interesting experience with hiv2.

    recently over at the

    O’Reilly: My Harassment Machine Is ‘A Legitimate Brand Of Journalism’

    backup the concern troll was in a pitch about the circumstances surrounding

    the time he was known as “captain mantastic” and was banned by tp. he

    admitted he was banned but insisted he did not know why. those who remember

    it know why; it was for posting racist comments and we told him so. he

    challenged for proof and hanshiro provided it. but if you know backup you know

    that he follows the conservative postulate that the truth has a well known liberal

    bias so he dismissed the evidence and went into his broken record defense.

    anyway i was curious, does tp keep a record of the people who have been

    banned and their reasons for banning them? i’d be very curious to find out if

    anyone here has information regarding that.

    thanks.

    _-_


  66. Zooey Lepidoptera says:

    I put very little weight behind anything David Brooks says, because basically he’s an idiot.


  67. joe cantwell says:

    doc,

    it was amazing!

    i thought they were scrubbed and impossible to get

    but hanshiro got ‘em. from that point on it was game,

    set and match hanshiro. “onetrack” (we gave backup a

    new moniker) pull out his usual tricks; rephrasing previous

    posts (the broken record tactic), then trying to flatter hans

    (”good point hanshiro!”) and finally trying to get hans to attack

    me! he swore he wouldn’t leave but hans got in the last punch

    and onetrack had given up the ghost. i almost felt sorry for him.

    **


  68. pete says:

    I agree, that no credence should be given to “Brooky”, Zooey. However, I don’t share the opinion that he’s an idiot. He’s one of the few remaining Reichwhiners who can actually make a bit of sense. Personally, I think he gets a huge secret paycheck from the RNC and/or he has some bizzare type of mental illness that makes him carry the water of people he knows are wrong.

    In fact, I think he’s one of the few “conservatives” I have any desire to understand better. I find his ability to justify the most ridiculous notions to be fascinating.


  69. joe cantwell says:

    doc,

    sorry didn’t mean to be vague.

    when i wrote “hanshiro got ‘em.”

    i was referring to the posts onetrack had

    made at the time he was captain mantastic.

    i thought they had been scrubbed but hanshiro

    found them.

    :::


  70. kasinca says:

    David Brooks and, I never thought I would be saying this, David Frum are two intelligent republicans. The caller from the club is what I always get when I tune in the C-SPAN show. They have the wackiest wingers ever calling in repeating what they heard from the drug addled, gas bag on radio.


  71. Tachinidae Leporello says:

    Off topic, but Truly noteworthy, Huffingon and Politico are both carrying a Most interesting story. Several days ago President Obama met with several executives from the banking industry. After listening to their whines, he replied that his administration was the only thing between them and the pitchforks! God Bless President Barack Hussein Obama!


  72. dixie blood says:

    Today on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal, conservative columnist David Brooks

    Another conservative on C-SPAN? I’m shocked I tell ya…

    :logout snark


  73. dixie blood says:

    #79, kasinca Says –

    And 28%er’s also call in on the other 2 lines (Democrats and Independents) and fake up a bunch of internal disgust with “thier own party” bs formed from the same talking points. We see this bs. Why can’t C-SPAN?



  74. livelongandprosper says:

    But in Europe, Obama added, there had also been anti-American attitudes. “On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common,” he said. “They are not wise.”

    Yikes! Hooray for intelligence.


  75. hamletthunktoomuch says:

    Wanting a president to fail is treasonous! Remember these same people told democrats that they should “support the president because he’s the president”. What a joke.


  76. pete says:

    Thanks for the tip, joe. I laugh!

    As long as we are dealing with off topics, some of you may recall that my phone number was blocked by a local ReichRadio host. Well, the host is gone and I still remain. I have sent weekly emails to the station manager and, perhaps, I helped remove an ignorant, divisive, voice from the local media.

    Keep up tour complaints to media outlets, fellow progressives. We just might manage to silence the stupidest voices who have a platform for their crap.

    http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_12064943?source=rss


  77. MapleStreet says:

    TP – you got Jindall all wrong.

    Jindall said those words against Rush to test where he stood. He meant to do that.

    /NARF!


  78. flight says:

    You can take or leave Brooks. I think the real story is that the country is sorting out the “Baffoons” from the real political agents ready to get the country on the right track.
    Mr Brooks wants to be on that wagon. What ever his motives, this is an important devolopement. The country needs a viable Republican party, its pretty obvious the present version isn’t up to the challenge!


  79. wizard2000 says:

    What?

    Rush Limbaugh, the DE FATSO leader of the Republican Party?

    Oh, wait, I think I misread that.

    But I still think DE FATSO leader of the Republican Party fits to a tee…as in DE FATSO HEAD of the Republican Party.


  80. curious says:

    I ask you folks. Did you ever think you would see the day, when the Republicans would want someone of color to speak for them?

    When Obama became President, the GOP scrambled like mad to get in on the act. And with the act came Jindal. A man so silly, and so totally inept that Louisiana would be the only place to claim him. And the Republican cynicism included hoping they could present this man as a sign of their openness. To them black was black, all interchangeable. And when Jindal spoke, he was and continues to be a failure. And Jindal himself thought he had found the horse to ride in on. A horse of color.

    Jindal himself found the spotlight to his liking. His problem is, he is no Obama. Not intellectually or charismatically. So his unwillingness to help his own constituents is part of his ideological stupidity. He has some idea of Republican purity as a cloak for his future ambitions. He is trying to garner support for his political rise to power. And he doesn’t care if he does it on the back of Louisiana. How this idiot got elected is a mystery.

    He is a bad governor, a bad politician and a lousy American. That is why he is Republican. Brooks is right of course. Who would want an entire nation to suffer just so someone could fail. And what does that say about people that do?

    Anyone who wishes failure of a President is simply a politician and not an American. He is a Republican and it looks good on him. Too bad his parents decided to come here with him in tow. But who knew?

    We are supposed to want the best for our country. And we are supposed to try at least to support a President. One who is trying to clean up a mess left by the party that wants his policies to fail.

    We have had eight years of failure by the last President. I hardly think that two months in office is enough time to clean up the mess. This Republican party really is the party of NO. NO IDEAS. NO PLANS. NO SUPPORT. What a bunch of losers.


  81. pete says:

    flight Says:
    The country needs a viable Republican party, its pretty obvious the present version isn’t up to the challenge!

    I must disagree. Our country needs more than one viable party, however, today’s GOP does not fit that description.


  82. ralph the wonder locust says:

    OT but kind of related to the concept of idiotic Republicans:

    Sarah Palin’s sister-in-law was arrested yesterday after she burglarized a home and was caught by the homeowner.

    I’m totally serious.


  83. joe cantwell says:

    ralph,

    comment # 83

    :)


  84. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Oh damn! joe cantwell scooped me!

    I bow to your superior awareness, joe. That’ll teach me to not read all the comments.


  85. flight says:

    pete Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    flight Says:
    The country needs a viable Republican party, its pretty obvious the present version isn’t up to the challenge!

    I must disagree. Our country needs more than one viable party, however, today’s GOP does not fit that description.

    Pete, I couldn’t agree with you more. The point I was making is the President needs a viable Republican party, not the present set of stooges we are seeing everyday. The Democrats are trying harder and that serves their party well. I think the Republicans will pay for their baffoonary in the long run!


  86. kwsventures says:

    “Wanting Obama to succeed” is different than “believing he will succeed.” My view is Obama is leading us to debt hell and ultimate financial disaster. Time will tell if I am right. What I do know never in history has so much debt let to anything but disaster.


  87. idiot says:

    The real question is how many who lambast these fellows wanted the last president to succeed?


  88. joe cantwell says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:
    Oh damn! joe cantwell scooped me!

    I bow to your superior awareness, joe. That’ll teach me to not read all the comments.

    **

    negative that ol’ buddy,

    alert local law enforcement

    the palins are on the loose!

    :)


  89. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    kwsventures Says:

    “Wanting Obama to succeed” is different than “believing he will succeed.” My view is Obama is leading us to debt hell and ultimate financial disaster. Time will tell if I am right. What I do know never in history has so much debt let to anything but disaster.

    I wonder if so much worry was ever expended over a budget during the last eight years?

    I certainly didn’t see much. Is it convenient to worry about a deficit when a D follows the name only?


  90. Ape-Man says:

    @92 ralph the wonder locust Says:
    Sarah Palin’s sister-in-law was arrested yesterday after she burglarized a home and was caught by the homeowner.

    Sarah Palin and her sister are quite a pair. Don’t let this get out or it might hurt their chances in 2012.


  91. pete says:

    flight Says:
    The point I was making is the President needs a viable Republican party, not the present set of stooges we are seeing everyday. The Democrats are trying harder and that serves their party well. I think the Republicans will pay for their baffoonary in the long run!

    Agreed. The only dispute I have is that a viable opposition party need not be today’s GOP. In fact, it appears that the GOP is Hellbent on becoming even more extreme. I think it’s more likely that moderates, who until recently called themselves Republicans, will evolve into a third party rather than reclaiming the GOP..


  92. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    idiot Says:

    The real question is how many who lambast these fellows wanted the last president to succeed?

    Being part of this country, we did want ‘the last president to succeed’ until he thought he was running a dictatorship.


  93. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    idiot Says:

    The real question is how many who lambast these fellows wanted the last president to succeed?
    ________________

    Well… at one point, Bush did have a 90% approval rating…

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-04-21-bushrating_N.htm

    Bush also holds the record for the other extreme: the highest approval rating of any president in Gallup’s history. In September 2001, in the days after the 9/11 attacks, Bush’s approval spiked to 90%

    … so I’d say it’s safe to say the vast majority of us were on his side at one point…

    Does that answer yer question, Li’l Feller?


  94. pete says:

    idiot Says:

    The real question is how many who lambast these fellows wanted the last president to succeed?

    That’s an idiotic question. Regardless of our wishes, the last President failed as much, or more, than any President in American history.

    I, for one, wish he had not failed. However, that doesn’t alter the historical record.


  95. jeff2001 says:

    Im sure everybody here wanted Bush to succeed. right?


  96. joe cantwell says:

    jeff2001 Says:
    Im sure everybody here wanted Bush to succeed. right?

    ***

    right.

    but he didn’t.

    are you saying

    he did?

    :::


  97. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    speaking of succeeding

    michele was a smash hit in london!

    see it here.

    :::

    :)


  98. ralph the wonder locust says:

    kwsventures Says:
    “Wanting Obama to succeed” is different than “believing he will succeed.” My view is Obama is leading us to debt hell and ultimate financial disaster. Time will tell if I am right. What I do know never in history has so much debt let to anything but disaster.

    It’s a fair point.

    The question must be asked, however, if, while you’re busily fearing the nation’s impending financial disaster, you recognize the culpability of the previous administration in the current situation we face.


  99. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    jeff2001 Says:

    Im sure everybody here wanted Bush to succeed. right?
    _________

    See comment #103…


  100. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    idiot Says:The real question is how many who lambast these fellows wanted the last president to succeed?

    I disagreed with many of the last presidents policies, that is true. And I voiced my opinion on that basis. The reason I voiced my opinion was not because I wanted Bush to fail but to have policies that are successful from my POV.

    Its fine to disagree on policy, but to pray for failure, I think, is like saying I want America to fail.

    Was Bush a failed president? The answer to that is your opinion

    All that exists is atoms and empty space, the rest is just opinion -Democritus of Abdera


  101. pete says:

    jeff2001 Says:

    Im sure everybody here wanted Bush to succeed. right?

    As a point of fact, I did hope that he would succeed. Unfortunately, he turned out to be a delusional, stupid, criminal who harmed our country more than any President since Herbert Hoover.


  102. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    pete Says:

    I, for one, wish he had not failed. However, that doesn’t alter the historical record.
    ___________

    If Republican/conservative policies had led to a lower deficit, higher employment, world peace, greater prosperity, lower drug use, lower rate of unwanted pregnancies, less crime, less pollution, better education… I’d be all for it.

    Sadly, NONE of that happened.

    Did I WANT Bush to fail? No…

    Did he fail? Dramatically.


  103. ralph the wonder locust says:

    jeff2001 Says:
    Im sure everybody here wanted Bush to succeed. right?

    Right.


  104. pete says:

    Don’t shy from facts, Xisithrus.

    Bush failed by any definition of the word. It’s long past time to stop being polite to the apologists.


  105. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    I thought going into Iraq was a mistake and I did not agree with the decision that congress and the president made. We were told that it would be a short war, six months, it would pay for itself.

    I thought all those things false not because I wanted Bush to fail but because I though it would result in a much longer battle, costing more lives, more dollars, than those hawks who gave reasons for it and be much more costly to America than they implied.


  106. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    pete Says:

    As a point of fact, I did hope that he would succeed. Unfortunately, he turned out to be a delusional, stupid, criminal who harmed our country more than any President since Herbert Hoover.
    ____________

    And it’s not like he didn’t have public approval (that 90% rating…) or the political support (control of the WH, Congress, and the courts…) to do it.

    Sadly, he just COULDN’T dot it…


  107. idiot says:

    Really…?! Because terms like Republiscum and Reichwhiners, and GOoPers really show a healthy respect for a viable opposition. If I didn’t agree with an elected officials policies and thought they were a bad course for my country I sure as hell hope they would not succeed in getting their policies moved forward.
    And really I don’t give a crap what the guy said I think you are a just the nicest piles of crap we find littered on the message boards.


  108. flight says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    pete Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    flight Says:
    The point I was making is the President needs a viable Republican party, not the present set of stooges we are seeing everyday. The Democrats are trying harder and that serves their party well. I think the Republicans will pay for their baffoonary in the long run!

    Agreed. The only dispute I have is that a viable opposition party need not be today’s GOP. In fact, it appears that the GOP is Hellbent on becoming even more extreme. I think it’s more likely that moderates, who until recently called themselves Republicans, will evolve into a third party rather than reclaiming the GOP..

    I must concede that the Republicans may not change, can’t find a leader, and they didn’t come up with any ideas for eight years. No sense holding your breath. I am an optimist but this is a question of praticality. The baffoons can’t help themselves.


  109. jeff2001 says:

    Whos the apologist? Limbaugh is no different than anybody on this site.


  110. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    idiot Says: Really…?! Because terms like Republiscum and Reichwhiners, and GOoPers really show a healthy respect for a viable opposition

    I steer wide of such name calling


  111. joe cantwell says:

    idiot Says:
    Really…?! Because terms like Republiscum and Reichwhiners, and GOoPers really show a healthy respect for a viable opposition. If I didn’t agree with an elected officials policies and thought they were a bad course for my country I sure as hell hope they would not succeed in getting their policies moved forward.
    And really I don’t give a crap what the guy said I think you are a just the nicest piles of crap we find littered on the message boards.

    ***

    i followed you up until the highlighted

    part and then you went off the rails.

    do you want to take another shot at it?

    :::


  112. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

  113. pete says:

    Well, idiot.

    The Republiscum and Reichwhiners, and GOoPers proved to be faithless, stupid, and just plain wrong. Why on Earth would we look to them to be a viable foil to the Democrats?


  114. joe cantwell says:

    jeff2001 Says:
    Whos the apologist? Limbaugh is no different than anybody on this site.

    ***

    i can only speak for myself but

    my hearing’s fine, i’m not on drugs

    and i don’t need viagra.

    ***

    oh yeah when i look down

    i can see my toes.

    :\


  115. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    idiot Says:

    Really…?! Because terms like Republiscum and Reichwhiners, and GOoPers really show a healthy respect for a viable opposition.
    ___________

    Ummm… is it because the current configuration of the Republican Party and the conservative movement in this country AREN’T a viable opposition?


  116. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    idiot Says:

    And really I don’t give a crap what the guy said I think you are a just the nicest piles of crap we find littered on the message boards.
    ____________

    Then I guess you’ll be moving along to a place more amenable to your views.

    I’d suggest Redstate or Free Republic.


  117. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    ot,

    but you know thanks to jeff and idiot

    this thread is starting to be fun!

    :)

    :)


  118. idiot says:

    Boy I ran head long into a wall of actual thoughful human beings. (Ouch that hurt) And I withdraw any low blows. I must have taken a wrong turn at Albequerqe.


  119. pete says:

    flight Says:
    April 3rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    We are in agreement. Either the Republicans need to purge the idiots or, a new party needs to arise from the moderates who have left the GOP. The Newts, Jindals, and Palins continue to move to the fringe. No matter what they call themselves.


  120. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    jeff2001 Says:

    Whos the apologist? Limbaugh is no different than anybody on this site.
    ___________

    Actually, he is. He gets millions of dollars a year and a powerful national forum to present his “views”…


  121. jeff2001 says:

    idiots love to repeat .


  122. katydid says:

    pastcaring ceratopogonidae Says:
    [...]
    I wonder if so much worry was ever expended over a budget during the last eight years?

    of course not… the biggest expenses were kept OFF BUDGET…

    and ignorance IS bliss…


  123. idiot says:

    Actually us idiot really love parks.


  124. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    jeff2001 Says:
    idiots love to repeat .
    jeff2001 Says:
    idiots love to repeat .
    jeff2001 Says:
    idiots love to repeat .
    __________

    Dang… yer absolutely right.


  125. jeff2001 says:

    The republic of hymenoptera stupidity WOW, thanks for the honest answer.


  126. idiot says:

    I agree with katydid this budget actually shows funding that was hidden from us for 7 years.


  127. jeff2001 says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


  128. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    jeff2001 Says:

    The republic of hymenoptera stupidity WOW, thanks for the honest answer.
    _____________

    Yer welcome.


  129. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    I guess that jeff & idiot would believe how bad Bush was if he said it himself right?


  130. idiot says:

    What would Joseph Do? I don’t know but I’ll give him a call later and ask for you.


  131. joe cantwell says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    joe cantwell Says:

    jeff2001 Says:
    Whos the apologist? Limbaugh is no different than anybody on this site.

    ***

    i can only speak for myself but

    my hearing’s fine, i’m not on drugs

    and i don’t need viagra.

    ***

    oh yeah when i look down

    i can see my toes.

    :\
    April 3rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm Add Karma Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

    But your views are extreme! Calling the President Bush various names, making infantile comments about General Petraeus (The man has medals on his chest), etc. WWJD?

    ***

    aye aye sir,

    see you on mars base alpha,

    roger over and out!

    “”"


  132. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    But your views are extreme! Calling the President Bush various names, making infantile comments about General Petraeus (The man has medals on his chest), etc. WWJD?
    ___________

    Then can we assume you don’t approve of Newt Gingrich’s attempts to demonize his political opponents, no matter what their position, back in 1996?

    Or someone like Anne Coulter suggesting judges should be poisoned?

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm


  133. DallasNE says:

    Gee Brooks, this has been headline news for 6 weeks so where have you been?

    Oh, someone showed you the latest poll showing how badly this has backfired. Such courage. Now lets see how long it takes for you to apologise to Rush Limbaugh.


  134. jeff2001 says:

    Or the hate from Keith O?


  135. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    But your views are extreme! Calling the President Bush various names, making infantile comments about General Petraeus (The man has medals on his chest), etc. WWJD?

    Names mean nothing. Ignore them. Its OPINION.


  136. idiot says:

    I know how much I disagree with what Bush did. He and a nice cadre of Neocons with the explicit help of Media talking heads and editorial writers through outright lies and misconceptions led us straight down into the Cube.


  137. joe cantwell says:

    jeff2001 Says:
    Or the hate from Keith O?

    ***

    does that bother you?

    :\


  138. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    idiot Says: I know how much I disagree with what Bush did. He and a nice cadre of Neocons with the explicit help of Media talking heads and editorial writers through outright lies and misconceptions led us straight down into the Cube

    Con men do the same thing..

    Be wise as serpents


  139. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    jeff2001 Says:

    Or the hate from Keith O?
    __________

    Is it anything like the hate from Bill O’Reilly, who said: “If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. … You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead”… or compared protesters who use the Internet to organize to child molesters… is that the sort of hate you’re talking about?


  140. pete says:

    Hey Daryll. We were afraid you got Raptured. How silly would we look if that had happened? I’m glad to see you are alive, and suffering, with the rest of us mere mortals.


  141. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    I DO NOT advocate violence or ill will towards any political official/opponent, but I refuse to support policy that will severely harm this country.

    Thats fine, but how do you know, for certain that a policy today will result in great harm tommorrow?

    You in all likelihood voted for Bush Jr, which resulted in hie deficits and bigger government..did you think that would happen when you pulled the lever?


  142. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    I DO NOT advocate violence or ill will towards any political official/opponent, but I refuse to support policy that will severely harm this country.
    _________

    Then… you MUST disapprove of Anne Coulter and Michelle Malkin, huh?

    And Bush’s policies were not only a disaster for the country but for the world too… so can we assume you refused to support him too?


  143. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    aptureReady Says:

    I equate Keith Doberman’s views to the views of hippies.
    ____________

    Awww geez… and just when we were cleaning up the dialogue.

    Have any valid information to support that opinion?


  144. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    I equate Keith Doberman’s views to the views of hippies -RR.

    Hippies were against war, true. But maybe their opinion was that war was more debt? And that war was generational theft?


  145. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Indeed, whether they were hippies, or not, is unimportant, because they, as you, RR, were concerned about America.


  146. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    Hippies were against war, true. But maybe their opinion was that war was more debt?
    _____________

    War is also something usually started by old men who want young men to go die for the old men’s sense of honor…


  147. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    RaptureReady Says: I DO NOT advocate violence or ill will towards any political official/opponent

    I hope that is so. Yet many think war will lead to armageddon and being saved.


  148. pete says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    I DO NOT advocate violence or ill will towards any political official/opponent, but I refuse to support policy that will severely harm this country.

    LIAR!!!

    You continually advocate violence and ill will towards anyone who doesn’t agree with your Raptarded world view and you supported Bush when he was doing severe harm to our country.

    I’m glad you were not Raptured but, you’re still dangerously insane.


  149. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    War is also something usually started by old men who want young men to go die for the old men’s sense of honor…

    Im sure that is basically correct but wouldnt apply to all old men =)


  150. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    Im sure that is basically correct but wouldnt apply to all old men =)
    __________

    Of course not… I was only referring to those old men specifically who WANT to start wars…


  151. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear jeff2001,

    I never hoped Bush would fail…
    … I hoped Bush would STOP FAILING!

    .


  152. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Of course not… I was only referring to those old men specifically who WANT to start wars…

    I know =), but we must be careful in our words as, I think, misunderstanding is rampant.


  153. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Political Officials, like the current President will fail you, but Jesus never fails.
    _______________

    Whatever… if it works for you, go w/ it… saaaaaaay… ain’t you the feller who was SURE Huckabee was the next President-Elect, no matter what? What hoppened???

    Believe whatever you want, RR… it doesn’t make it FACTUAL


  154. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    I know =), but we must be careful in our words as, I think, misunderstanding is rampant.
    ____________

    Hmmm… that does seem to be the theme of the day, huh?


  155. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear idiot,
    You forgot your (R)ushpublican friend Bill-doh…
    … You evil loon!

    .


  156. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Were we ever attacked after 9/11? No! Do you walk around in fear? No! This is all because of President Bush’s initiative to attempt to decrease terrorism. Also, when have ever wished death or violence on anyone?

    We were attacked under Bush and under Clinton. Lets give the credit to those who do the actual work who are not seen and not heard of who work in the shadows and who, no matter who is president, to protect the USA


  157. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Were we ever attacked after 9/11?
    ___________

    Ummm… Anthrax attacks??? And while yer at it, Bush’s presidency didn’t START on 9/12…
    ___________

    No! Do you walk around in fear? No! This is all because of President Bush’s initiative to attempt to decrease terrorism.
    ___________

    Are you sure about that? Many experts disagree…

    http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1188

    Moreover, the President’s policies since 9/11 have failed to make America safer. After initial success in Afghanistan, the administration became distracted by Iraq, allowing those who attacked us on 9/11 to reconstitute a new terrorist safe haven on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border and once again threaten the United States. Moreover, the invasion of Iraq and its disastrous consequences have acted as a terrorism recruiting, training and fundraising vehicle causing an overall increase in terror attacks worldwide.

    Meanwhile, a number of bipartisan commissions have concluded that the Bush administration has not done nearly enough to address the threat of WMD terrorism – the type of attack that the President himself has acknowledged presents the gravest threat to the United States. Finally, the administration has violated America’s basic constitutional values through a detainee and torture policy that has failed to bring terrorists to justice while severely damaging America’s image in the world.


  158. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Hmmm… that does seem to be the theme of the day, huh?

    Mayhaps. Mayhaps.


  159. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Bid “D”(aka RupturedAllReady),

    Who’s your Messiah?
    Who’s the Muslim?
    Who’s the Socialist Commie?
    Or is it the Leftist Fascist?
    Got that birth certificate?
    … Say your prayers and save me that seat, K?

    .


  160. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Yay, RR, lets give credit to those unseen and who work without name or fame.


  161. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    Mayhaps. Mayhaps.
    ____________

    Please note… as I drink my tea, how my little finger is extended.

    Propriety is my middle name…


  162. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    RaptureReady Say:
    You will know when Jesus raptures his children to him (Many people missing during catastrophic times). Also, you maybe suffering, but not me. Because of the blood of Jesus, I am financially stable, I have a beautiful home, two automobiles, a wife and a daughter (I might tear up) on the way. Without him, I am nothing. Political Officials, like the current President will fail you, but Jesus never fails.

    I also credit God with the great life I have. I also know many who believe in the redemption provided to ALL humans by the blood of Jesus. I so totally don’t get the part where this will get me financial stability, a beautiful home, cars, etc. I think the whole prosperity gospel stuff is crap. The treasures God gives us are not material, what I get from my belief allows me to discount the trappings of materialism and do as our savior commands…whatever you have done for the least of them, so have you done to me


  163. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    Yay, RR, lets give credit to those unseen and who work without name or fame.
    __________

    Ex-National Security advisor R Clark, who served under at least 4 Presidents before resigning in frustration?


  164. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Were we ever attacked after 9/11?

    Your speaking of a future you dont know


  165. pete says:

    Daryll, you stupid fundy:

    “We” were attacked thousands of times after Chimpy provided the Muslim extremists with thousands of targets in their own back yard. And then there’s the anthrax attacks. None of which absolves Chimpy from his duplicity in the attack on 9/11.

    Need I remind you that Chimpy was in charge when 9/11 occurred?


  166. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    Your speaking of a future you dont know
    ___________

    Don’t worry… RR doesn’t understand the past either.

    It’s like tires on a car. It all balances out in the end.


  167. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    I am not perfect. Sometimes saints misinterpret prophecy.
    ______________

    Who would be the saint? Surely not yourself…

    Deadly sin #7: Pride…


  168. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    I am not perfect. Sometimes saints misinterpret prophecy. -RR

    Stop judging others and then maybe you will attain the ability to understand


  169. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Big “D”(aka RupturedAllReady),

    So when you supported …
    Bush/Cheney/Gonzales/Addington/Yoo/Rice/Powell/Bybee/Feith/Haynes/etc.
    … You did it out of compassion for the good they were doing?

    .


  170. pete says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    I am not perfect. Sometimes saints misinterpret prophecy.

    You lose, again, Daryll.

    No Saint has ever proclaimed their sainthood themselves. Saints tend to be humble above everything. Once again you proclaim your utter ignorance of your own religion.


  171. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Were we attacked after 9/11?
    ____________

    I already answered this for you and you ignored it… what about the Anthrax attacks?
    ____________

    Daily, do you walk in fear of an attack?
    ____________

    I answered this too, and you ignored that one too…

    http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1188

    Moreover, the President’s policies since 9/11 have failed to make America safer. After initial success in Afghanistan, the administration became distracted by Iraq, allowing those who attacked us on 9/11 to reconstitute a new terrorist safe haven on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border and once again threaten the United States. Moreover, the invasion of Iraq and its disastrous consequences have acted as a terrorism recruiting, training and fundraising vehicle causing an overall increase in terror attacks worldwide.

    Meanwhile, a number of bipartisan commissions have concluded that the Bush administration has not done nearly enough to address the threat of WMD terrorism – the type of attack that the President himself has acknowledged presents the gravest threat to the United States. Finally, the administration has violated America’s basic constitutional values through a detainee and torture policy that has failed to bring terrorists to justice while severely damaging America’s image in the world.

    You’re either avoiding my answers or not paying attention.


  172. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Answer the question (Jesus sees your heart). Were we attacked after 9/11? Daily, do you walk in fear of an attack?

    After 911 is an open and inconclusive statement. If we were attacked after 911 who would you blame?

    Do I fear an attack? No.


  173. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    Daily, do you walk in fear of an attack?

    Didn’t walk in fear before, have not done so after. No credit to Bush or his policies, just a good comprehension of probabily and statistics. Is not the whole point of our common religion an affirmation that we should not be afraid, only believe?


  174. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    #178 RapturedAllReady Commits:

    I am not perfect. Sometimes saints misinterpret prophecy.

    B L A S P H E M Y !

    … To equate oneself to that of a Saint! For THAT is the place of the Roman Catholic Church to decide A-F-T-E-R you have passed this earth AND from which THREE MIRACLES have been attributed to your powers from the Kingdom of God!

    I’ll enjoy that lap of yours when you save it for me in Hell!

    .


  175. pete says:

    No, Daryll, I don’t live in fear. I don’t fear gods. I don’t fear dragons. I don’t fear people. And I don’t hate people either.

    In fact, the whole fear and loathing crap is why I think your Raptarded religion is BS.


  176. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    So Big “D”,
    You DO put others before your God?

    .


  177. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    Oh, and I’m fairly certain one approaches idol worship if one follows both Mitch McConnell and Jesus.


  178. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Yo Big “D”,
    They TORTURED people…
    … God’s Children!

    .


  179. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    They really didn’t harm our country. You are just negatively exaggerating their imprint on our nation.

    Our country was in no danger from a poor country, no wmd was found, millions of innocent people were forced from their homes. This hurt our country, economically and globally. We are not to lead thru force but example. And because shock and awe was seen as a cure we lost, I think, big time, we lost our ability to lead thru example. War is not peace.


  180. pete says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    They really didn’t harm our country. You are just negatively exaggerating their imprint on our nation.

    That’s why you’re an idiot, Daryll.

    They made us into a rogue nation. They squandered the goodwill we had assembled over six decades. And they trashed our economy. They could not have done more harm to our country short of nuking every major city in the nation.


  181. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Once again, I do not judge. I witness to others and inform you about God’s word to save souls. Do you want to go to heaven or hell.

    Why then the need to call people hippies? Who are you to save my soul? Isnt that judging the state of my soul? Jesus did not speak of heaven or hell but resurrection.


  182. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Yo Big “D”,
    Let God speak for himself…
    … He does not require you to speak for Himself.

    Don’t you have your own Soul to be concerned with?
    … Save THAT why don’t you?

    .


  183. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Wrong! I only worship and adore Jesus (No one else). For guidance and help on earth, I look to Rep. Jim Moran and, my political leader, Mitch McConnell.

    Your looking to politicians?


  184. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    So Big “D”,
    Is Christ not the best Moral Leader a Christian can find?
    Why rely on the feebleness of a mortal to be that Guiding Light?

    .


  185. hstps says:

  186. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    #208 hstps

    FLAGGED

    ‘NUF SAID!

    .


  187. Marie says:

    Late to the chat tonight- haven’t read all the comments.
    I am pleased with Brooks’ remarks.
    Could that caller have been that stupid and racist and assume that Brooks would agree with him – on TV?
    Brooks was caught speechless – but his discomfort and disagreement was apparent. His comments were proper.


  188. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Big “D”,

    What are the politics of Jesus Christ…
    … Do your’s comport?

    .


  189. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:
    Our country was in no danger from a poor country, no wmd was found, millions of innocent people were forced from their homes. This hurt our country, economically and globally.

    And this hurt our souls, for we harmed innocent children of God. We put our children in a hard place where they had to kill the children of others. We sinned here.


  190. pete says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    No, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and the Democrats are to blame for our economic downturn.

    No. The Republicans who have ruled for 32 of the last 40 years, depending on how one defines such things, have destroyed our economy. And Chimpy’s legacy as a rogue dictator is undisputed.



  191. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    And this hurt our souls, for we harmed innocent children of God. We put our children in a hard place where they had to kill the children of others. We sinned here.

    It matters not whether one believes in GOD, Karma or a higher power, this atrocity, I say, goes against our will.


  192. dbadass says:

    Hi Daryll. I exist in spite of Jesus. Has anyone ask yet how your big guy f ucked up that Huckabee thing so badly? Oh and when is the party that never happens going?


  193. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Hmm… Daryll shows up and our other friends disappear?

    Shift change at Troll Central?

    So Daryll, you’ve already acknowledged that even a saint like you can be wrong, as you were wrong when you stridently asserted that Jesus told you it was cool to go ahead and call him “President-elect Huckabee” (– by teh way, did you catch the latest video of “President-elect Huckabee” suggesting that Republican activists in Virginia do “the Lord’s work” by flattening the tires of Democratic voters so they couldn’t get to the polls? Does that sound very Christian to you?)

    Sop anyway, as I wuz sayin’… you admitted you’re sometimes wrong. Yet you were dead certain that Mike Huckabee would be our next president. At least as certain as you are about anything else you’ve stated tonight.

    How can you be sure you’re not wrong about any of this stuff?


  194. dbadass says:

    So Rapture my man can you lay me down the list of politicians whose views are in line with the bible? Thanks for that


  195. ralph the wonder locust says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Yes, you should fear Jesus (Read the bible). If it wasn’t for him, you would not exist.

    Come again?

    Jesus is responsible for the human race?

    I’m afraid you;re gonna have to explain that one a little more thoroughly, Daryll.


  196. pete says:

    OT ALERT:

    Good evening, dbadass. The robins are confirmed and the gulls have returned. Spring has sprung!


  197. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    Speaking of Huckabee….he’s campaigning for a gubernatorial candidate in my state. He suggested that repubs get out the vote, and failing that that they prevent the opposing party from voting, by letting the air out of their tires if necessary.


  198. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    ralph,
    hstps showed up…
    … A-G-A-A-I-N! #208. less the “2″.


  199. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    RR Said: Sure, if my Local or Government Officials are not doing their job, I will contact my Congressman or my Congressional leader for assistance

    Okay, fine, I can accept that. But we are, I think, entering a point where America has become an empire and as with Rome, the Senators have become, for the greater part, corrupt.

    If you can change the demise of America by contact with congressional servants then I wish you well in your journey and hope you are successful in your endeavor.


  200. dbadass says:

    Jesus had conservative views. Since I follow him, I adhere to his views and laws.

    —-

    Can we be a little more specific here cupcake?
    Thanks


  201. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:
    It matters not whether one believes in GOD, Karma or a higher power, this atrocity, I say, goes against our will.

    AMEN!


  202. dbadass says:

    excellent news pete. We are just starting herpe migration. It is raining this evening so I may go out for a little while and start sampling. I volunteer for a monitoring organization


  203. ralph the wonder locust says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Jesus had conservative views. Since I follow him, I adhere to his views and laws.

    Really?

    Jesus was in favor of tax cuts and military spending? What Gospel was that in?

    I know he consorted with prostitutes, and that’s a conservative thing, so you may have a point.

    But can you give us a comprehensive list of the conservative views of Jesus, with book, chapter and verse, and how they align with Mitch McConnell’s agenda? Thanks so much.


  204. pete says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    Jesus had conservative views. Since I follow him, I adhere to his views and laws.

    I realize that most of us don’t need examples of Daryll’s insanity, but..

    This is a classic!

    Assuming that Jebus existed, he was the prototypical liberal. He devoted his life to fighting the system. He was anti-conformity in every single speech. Heck! He wore dresses and sandals!


  205. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Jesus, as the first pilgrims had commutarian views


  206. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    I’m reasonably certain Jesus was not a conservative. His message was revolutionary, and truth be told, way more socialist than his right wing followers acknowledge. Just my opinion.


  207. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Big “D”,

    Jesus feed the multitudes, not Himself first.
    Jesus forgave His Father’s Children, not castigated them.
    Jesus performed miracles and raised the dead.
    Jesus went to His Father penny-less.
    Jesus practiced FREE MEDICINE and did not profit from His Good deeds.
    Jesus spoke out against the Sanhedrin and against the wishes of the elders of the Temple.

    Jesus Christ was far from “conservative” and was quite the “Liberal”.

    .


  208. dbadass says:

    That is a damn good idea ralph. What do you say Rapture Ready. That would make so much sense and you could really show us how wrong we were about jesus’s political leanings.


  209. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Been great to talk at you again, Daryll. But i gotta run. Bill Moyers’ Journal is coming on PBS.

    He’s an ordained Baptist minister, did you know that? He received a B. Div degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in 1959.


  210. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Yes, you should fear Jesus (Read the bible). If it wasn’t for him, you would not exist.

    Thanks a lot. You made me spit my drink all over my monitor!


  211. dbadass says:

    Jesus, as the first pilgrims had commutarian views

    They all rode the T?


  212. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    By the time I can make my fingers type anything, ralph and pete have already made my point more eloquently than I can.


  213. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Yes, you should fear Jesus (Read the bible). If it wasn’t for him, you would not exist.

    I will not allow fear to rule me


  214. dbadass says:

    Silly just plan f ucking batshit silly


  215. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    I will continue to pray that all of you ensures that your life and views our equivalent Jesus. God Bless.

    Thanks, but it is wrong to speak in tongues if your listener cannot bebefit from the message.


  216. pete says:

    Don’t hold back on my account, OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts.

    I hold to the theory that idiots, like Daryll, deserve every cheap shot we can deliver.

    What a vile beast he is.


  217. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    News Flash: Jeschu Notsri did not write the bible


  218. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Sorry, O.T.

    FBI Unbound Pt.1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfRU48QxfQE

    FBI Unbound Pt. 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwsWnCKf0tk

    Watch how the FBI is watching you!

    .


  219. spring heeled jack says:

    Jesus is giving out cars?


  220. dbadass says:

    I think I will stay right here on earth. The last thing I want to be caught dead doing is flying thru the air with a bunch of pasty looking naked god freaks


  221. pete says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    It was a misinterpretation between prayer and dreams.

    No, Daryll. It was a ridiculous lie. That seems to be the cornerstone of your religion.


  222. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    RaptureReady Says: It was a misinterpretation between prayer and dreams.

    It was your wishes that cause the misinterpretation.

    Forget that what you think should be and accept that what will be


  223. Jane E. Schneider says:

    If the only people who are going to make it into “heaven” are like Daryll, I don’t want to end up anywhere near there. What a rigid, atrophied mind!

    Hi, dbadass.


  224. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    I am what I am

    What will be will be


  225. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    … A misinterpretation between prayer and dreams?

    Others call it a hallucination “D”.


  226. pete says:

    I’m with you, db. I’m not ready to sacrifice the only life I’ve ever known.

    And, when I look at the freaks who sound assured of their place in Heaven? I don’t want any part of it. I would rather spend eternity with Darwin and Jimi Hendrix.


  227. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    You, RR, cannot save my soul for that requires you to judge that it needs saved.

    Shall I judge your soul needing saved RR?


  228. dbadass says:

    Hi Jane. I am sure we will have more fun with more interesting folks while enjoying eternal damnation. I’ll bring the grub. Slow night tonight but I did end up with a case on portabellos and some other odds and ends not that I like portabellos but they will make for some reasonable bartering.


  229. pete says:

    Me too, Jane E. Schneider.

    I want no part of an eternity populated by Darylls.


  230. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    You RR are not the final Arbiter, It is not for you to decide ANYTHING about my soul. I realize you mean well. But this holier than thou stuff leads to vigilantes.


  231. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Pete, I fully expect that, even if we never meet in this life, I’ll see you in hell. :D It’ll be fun!

    dbadass, I do like mushrooms (even if I don’t like artichokes or radishes.)


  232. pete says:

    I find it hard to imagine anything more ‘Heavenly” than a nice bit of steak with sauteed portabellos and shallots. But? Fresh trout and morels is close!


  233. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    Remind me to come back as a human so I can eat mushrooms, artichokes and radishes


  234. Tallygirl says:

    I live in north Florida, about 20 miles from the Georgia line and I can tell you that there is a good chance that guy was not a “plant”. I have members of my own family (Yankees, go figure) and am surrounded at work by people who are distressed that President Obama was elected because he’s a black man, and no other reason. I used to think that things would be ok once the old racist farts died off but unfortunately they’ve poisoned their children and grandchildren as well. It’s sad that there are still people like that in this country.


  235. dbadass says:

    Jane I totally dig mushroom and harvest quite a few wild varieties. I just don’t really dig portabellos. I feel they are grossly overrated. I think I will be ill if I eat another artichoke and I adore artichokes. I still have about 6 left but considering I started with two cases. I gace up on the radishes. They are in the compost


  236. pete says:

    It sounds like a good plan, Jane E. Schneider. You can even bring Wayne. I’m not greedy.

    But? If you do not like artichokes, you haven’t had a good one. I’m neutral on radishes.


  237. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    If you read the Bible, God makes it pretty clear that we cannot understand his ways, and are fools to try. I’m a believer, but I’m sure you agnostic folk are as beloved as I am. You won’t wind up in hell, and we’ll all make portobello ravioli together.Oh heck…I’ve confirmed the right-wingers expectations by having a bit of a kumbaya moment…


  238. dbadass says:

    Since I was at work, can anyone explain to me why Daryll was here while totally avoiding the obvious gay marriage threads? Something doesn’t seem to make sense.


  239. dbadass says:

    I want no part of an eternity populated by Darylls.


    Might I add naked Darylls…. Ugh… Paradise? I think not!


  240. pete says:

    dbadass Says:

    Since I was at work, can anyone explain to me why Daryll was here while totally avoiding the obvious gay marriage threads? Something doesn’t seem to make sense.

    It doesn’t make much sense, does it? But? Lets go back to edible fungi.

    My late Mother left me a recipe for a “stack” of portabellos, eggplant, tomatoes, and onion, grilled with a little lemon juice and a bunch of butter. YUM!


  241. Jane E. Schneider says:

    We barbequed at the office the other day, so today I took home some leftover grilled london broil – not my favorite steak, but I sauteed it up with some ’shrooms w/garlic, peppercorns, and a little wine. Yum.

    dbadass, I’m not overly partial to portobellas either. Okay in moderation.

    Outstanding, change that to lobster ravioli and I’m with ya.

    Pete, I’m sure Wayne’ll appreciate your invitation. ;)


  242. Jane E. Schneider says:

    When we all meet in hell I’ll bring my secret-recipe stuffed mushrooms.


  243. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    dbadass Says:

    Since I was at work, can anyone explain to me why Daryll was here while totally avoiding the obvious gay marriage threads? Something doesn’t seem to make sense.
    ____________

    I think there might be more than one Daryll. The language can change quite a bit from one appearance to the next.


  244. Jane E. Schneider says:

    “I think there might be more than one Daryll.”

    Please, say it isn’t so!


  245. dbadass says:

    pete:
    Claiming it posed a danger, the town cut down my faorite oyster mushroom tree. I am so bummed. I have others but this one was so conventient right by the road and all


  246. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Please, say it isn’t so!
    __________

    I unnerstand yer extreme trepidation, Jane…

    BTW, see where the Mets signed Sheffield today for $400K?


  247. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    Jane E. Schneider Says:
    When we all meet in hell I’ll bring my secret-recipe stuffed mushrooms.

    How can it be hell if there are stuffed mushrooms?


  248. pete says:

    You’ve got a deal, Jane. I’ll even throw in my creamy pasta with shrimp/chicken, baby carrots, shallots(again), and a half-a-pound of Parmesan cheese.

    Hell loses it’s terror if we have good food and good company.


  249. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    But this holier than thou stuff leads to vigilantes.
    __________

    And at other times, merely side-splitting bouts of laughter.


  250. dbadass says:

    Alright since you are all thinking food. What do you suggest for 4 pounds of 21/25 shrimp, one swordfish steak, the aforementioned case of portobellos, a bag of tomatoes, 2 bunches of curly parsley (ugh, I prefer Italian flatleaf), and a head of the lamest of lettuces (iceburg) oh and a few baby golden beats, and the leftover artichokes if you wish? How about doing a quick little Iron Chef action for me…


  251. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

    And at other times, merely side-splitting bouts of laughter.

    I have to admit I find Batman and Robin funny


  252. pete says:

    Hell is what we make of it, OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts. I, for one, will do all I can to make the best of it.


  253. dbadass says:

    “Who the hell is Robin?”
    B. Simpson


  254. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    db @#266,
    Maybe because I’m a threat to his marriage?


  255. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    db,
    I wonder where Mr. Brooks would have faired on Moyer’s tonight?

    It was great to see Greenwald and Goodman on. They spoke a lot of truth.


  256. ralph the wonder locust says:

    OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts Says:
    If you read the Bible, God makes it pretty clear that we cannot understand his ways, and are fools to try.

    Nailed it, Outstanding.

    This, for me, is the one truth about spirituality that provides the foundation of everything I think and believe. Sure, I make choices and even judgments, but I’m always aware that ultimately I don’t know a thing about it and everything I think I know is on a limited scale.

    This truth seems to have escaped Daryll.

    I think it has a lot of company.

    BTW, did Daryll ever return to delineate exactly which conservative values Jesus held? It’s pretty important, because I have to make some big decisions about this stuff and I’d like to have all of the best information before me.


  257. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Max Anax junius -1 Says:
    db,
    I wonder where Mr. Brooks would have faired on Moyer’s tonight?

    It was great to see Greenwald and Goodman on. They spoke a lot of truth.

    Didn’t they? I’ve seen Greenwald on there before but Amy Goodman was very impressive. And I totally missed that she got arrested at the Republican convention.

    Good stuff.


  258. pete says:

    dbadass Says:

    Alright since you are all thinking food. What do you suggest for 4 pounds of 21/25 shrimp, one swordfish steak, the aforementioned case of portobellos, a bag of tomatoes, 2 bunches of curly parsley (ugh, I prefer Italian flatleaf), and a head of the lamest of lettuces (iceburg) oh and a few baby golden beats, and the leftover artichokes if you wish? How about doing a quick little Iron Chef action for me…

    That’s a poser. But..

    Broil the shrimp and swordfish with some lemon, a bunch of butter, fresh garlic, and a little fresh dill.

    Saute the mushrooms, artichoke hearts and some shallots(again). Reduce with whatever white wine you can spare. Then add a bunch of heavy cream and thicken with Parmesan and/or mozzarella cheese.

    NOTE: A little more butter can’t hurt at this point.

    Pour the whole works over some fettuccine or linguine.

    Make a salad out of the rest with your favorite dressing.


  259. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    ralph,
    I blush for thee…
    … But I bet the lunch included mushrooms, though.


  260. pete says:

    Sorry. My GD cat spilled my beer!!!

    Greenwald and Goodman were awesome tonight. Moyers is always good. Brooks would never have the balls to appear on Moyer’s show. He’s a tool.


  261. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:
    _______

    So ralphie… seen b-cup today?

    And what do you think of our new Li’l Buddy, “trying to learn”???

    Did you notice when he referred to me as “Republic” today?

    Funny that… the only regular here who calls me that is… b-cup.


  262. Xisithrus, Hemiptera says:

  263. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus, Hemiptera Says:

    Hell is empty
    _____________

    The beer is ALWAYS warm and flat…

    The bathrooms are NEVER clean…

    And the only choice for music you get either Celine Dion or ABBA


  264. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Pete, that pasta w/shrimp (is that and/or chicken?) sounds scrumptious.

    “My GD cat spilled my beer!!!”

    That’s one example of why cats and computers don’t mix.

    Off to bed, See you tomorrow – for some stupid reason, we’re supposed to get snow showers tomorrow, then up to 59 on Sunday. Goodnight!


  265. Destiny says:

    One thing I can say about Brooks is that he has alway respected Barack Obama from the very beginning as a senator, even if he never cared for Obama’s politics. I really think that David likes Obama, but David has to keep his job as a republican journalist.


  266. Perry logan says:

    Republicans are starting to realize they’re unpatriotic and stupid.

    This is progress.


  267. sacopenapa says:

    It has been a long time since I read my news on the internet… I don’t watch this news because its bias and propaganda fillings.
    I still don’t Obama to fail.
    I still want him to End the War and stop ’surging’ in Afgahnistan for the oil pipeline…
    …I still have hope, but it is fading…


  268. Rodeskawler says:

    I usually respond to blog topics that make me mad.

    I think ‘real change’ means we hold people accountable even if they are rich politicians, fair trade policy that doesn’t expect Americans workers to try to compete with slave wages and national healthcare in every other industrialized nation, as well as real lobbyist reform and public election finance reform to remove the relevance of corporate bribes and their influence on legislation that has hurt our economy and Americans’ ability to provide for their families and stay out of debt.

    This being said, I am proud of how President Obama has represented America on the world stage this week and feel very fortunate we have someone as thoughtful and intelligent as our President.

    I think Obama’s real intentions are genuine even if we don’t agree how to get there exactly or exactly where this nation needs to go to achieve real change.

    I very much want him to succeed so he can win a second term and hold off the inevitable for another 4 years. The inevitable being a Republican administration going farther than Bush did, because noone that could, cared to to hold him accountable and set the example for the next would-be tyrannical, traitorous Republican administration that has no intentions of there being any more elections they could lose.

    Michele has also represented our nation well this week. Quite frankly she could have ‘high-fived’ the Queen if she wanted to for all I care. I am not much on this “royal” stuff anyway. I think people should earn their wages and not have tax-payer dollars bequeathed to them based on the vagina they fell out of.

    I am just glad we don’t have a petulent, silver-spoon-fed moron embarrassing the hell out of this nation anymore, not to mention committing war crimes daily.

    I shutter to think how someone like Palin or Jindal would be representing this nation and handled themselves at the G20. My guess is they know about as much about the G20 as The Shrub did, and probably care to about as much as well.


  269. KayInMaine says:

    “We just cannot have eight years of this black man.”

    And there lies the real reason why the republicans don’t like President Obama. It has nothing to do with his policies at all. Just the color of his skin. Spit.


  270. Joe Sixpack says:

    I think KayInMaine (#297) pretty well says it all.


  271. noseeum says:

    Another episode of All in the Family…

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/04/diana-palin-sarah-palins-_n_183097.html

    Speaking of which, where’s Archie?

    Arrrrrrrchieeeeee!


  272. katydid says:

    joe sixpack – “correct me if i’m wrong”…
    is that you?


  273. DNFP says:

    HOORAY FOR THE GOP!

    Don’t ever stop being yourselves, or else we might actually have to become more involved in your self-inflicted destruction.


  274. milkmanrp says:

    Come on, It’s Bush’s Fault, right, Jimmy Carter loosened the purse stings on Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae, then Clinton cut them off so every one could live the American dream.

    When mismanagement at Wrold Com put them under so when the stock market in a slow roll down the hill. Housing begin to slow, values dropped, 125% loans begin to tank and boom recession..


  275. homepage says:

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  276. noseeum says:

    He certainly was a meathead.


  277. silver surfur says:

    i will say that between certain members of the g.o.p. and certain wall st.banker’s that there is a bit of collusion going on, against the economic recovery of this country.and
    if this is the case then they should all be brought up on
    charges of treason.


  278. noseeum says:

    Can you tell what we might expect to see on your homepage, before we click on the link and find illegible spam, unwanted cookies, or worse?


  279. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    “We got to bring that man down,” the caller said, adding, “We just cannot have eight years of this black man.”

    Remember, he’s not just any black man, caller, but an “inadequate black man.” Were you the same crazy Hillary supporter in Florida who complained about that?

    What is it with racists? Why do they feel the color of someone’s skin has anything to do with anything? Do they really, deep down inside them, believe that white people are, somehow, superior to non-white people? And if they do believe that nonsense, then what do they think of people like House Republican Leader John Boehner, who regularly alters the color of his skin?


  280. noseeum says:

    Wayne Ant Schneider Says: “Do they really, deep down inside them, believe that white people are, somehow, superior to non-white people?”

    I think the current situation may run a little deeper than that.
    Deep down inside they realize they have witnessed 8 years of a bumbling, stumbling rich white man, and now they are confronted with a black man of obviously greater intelligence and leadership skills.
    This threatens to the core their archaic bigotry.
    The only reaction they have is to threaten and bluster.
    And feed the arms industry.


  281. Witch1 says:

    Outstanding read’s, all, Thank you…Blessings


  282. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Blessing back atcha, witch1! Enjoy your sunshine, it’s pretty gloomy here on the east coast.


  283. Witch1 says:

    Give it a day Dear Lady Jane, the good weather like the bad hit’s here first and then head’s your way…The spring is headed your way….Many Blessings to you and Lord Wayne…I do so enjoy both your posting’s..P. B. & J..


  284. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    Thanks, Great Lady. :)

    Enjoy the beautiful weather. We’ll look forward to seeing it here soon.


  285. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Yes, witch1, we’re supposed to have a beautiful day tomorrow, I’m looking forward to it. I’m hoping my daffodils will open up soon. Enjoy the day!




  286. Jane E. Schneider says:

    mrunpc Says:

    Flagged.


  287. livelongandprosper says:

    mrunpc, take your trigger finger off the gun, check your pants for involuntary releases ,get a glass of warm milk and have a nap.


  288. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    mrunpc Says:

    You should get a new name. Perhaps mruneducated would be a better fit.


  289. pastcaring ceratopogonidae says:

    mrunpc flagged for being uninteresting.


  290. Jane E. Schneider says:

    I’m watching the press conference from Binghampton NY where a lone Vietnamese gunman shot and killed 13 people studying for their citizenship exam. So, according to mrunpc, the gunman was a conservative? Nice. :(


  291. pete says:

    I’m a legal gun owner and I haven’t called myself a conservative in years. Most of my hunting buddies are life-long Democrats. So, in addition to being stupid and petty, it appears the troll is a liar too.

    Is anyone surprised?


  292. noseeum says:

    “And, oh yes. Just remember there are 65 MILLION LEGAL gun owners in America and nearly every one of them are CONSERVATIVES.”

    If you threaten violence with a gun you immediately become an illegal gun owner.


  293. dbadass says:

    Is now the right time to ask about my rocket launcher?


  294. dbadass says:

    Hi mrunpc.
    Wanna chit chat? I promise not to make you look foolish.


  295. katydid says:

    stop watching SNL for your “news” …

    oops! you got it wrong!

    it’s the DAILY SHOW with JON STEWART…

    followed by the COLBERT REPORT.

    someone give the rube athat link to fascism steps… it needs to see how ignernt beck is…


  296. Jane E. Schneider says:

    “Is now the right time to ask about my rocket launcher?”

    Only if its range can reach Wayne and I, db! ;)


  297. livelongandprosper says:

    And, oh yes. Just remember there are 65 MILLION LEGAL gun owners in America and nearly every one of them are CONSERVATIVES.

    I know a guy who worked for a guy who built a massive palace in the Bahamas with money he made in the gun trade. I wonder if he or any other gun runner would be at all interested in supplying guns to rest of America?


  298. pete says:

    Whenever you bring up the rocket launcher, dbadass, I’m reminded of the time my Dad got exited and loaded a flare by mistake while duck hunting. We had a nice chat with a concerned game warden and it was the only time I ever heard Dad use a particular very bad word. I still giggle when I think of it.


  299. dbadass says:

    guns for all, healthcare for none….Viva the USA!


  300. noseeum says:

    “…the time my Dad got exited and loaded a flare by mistake while duck hunting.”

    Redheads will do that to a guy…


  301. dbadass says:

    Redheads will do that to a guy…


    As will canvasbacks and ruddyducks. I tend to stick with the perching birds. Still I get all flustered over great tits…


  302. Anonymouse says:

    Mr. Brooks is echoing John Wayne on this:

    “I didn’t vote for him, but he’s my president, and I hope he does a good job.”


  303. pete says:

    Redheads will do that to a guy…

    Canvasbacks, actually. And boy are they fast!


  304. pete says:

    Heh! Dbadass and I prove, once again, that great minds think alike. And so do ours.


  305. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    dbadass Says:
    Jane I totally dig mushroom and harvest quite a few wild varieties. I just don’t really dig portabellos. I feel they are grossly overrated.

    The only way I like portobellos is marinated in garlic and olive oil, grilled and served on a good hamburger bun with all the fixings. It makes a great vegetarian version of a hamburger.


  306. pete says:

    Homer Simpson had a line that, if I recall, went:

    “This portabello mushroom eats like a steak! A slimy, fungussy, steak”.


  307. noseeum says:

    Canvasbacks don’t do much for me, I’m reminded of the Appalachian Trail, pack straps that cut into my shoulders, and unwashed hairy-legged hikers.


  308. dbadass says:

    It isn’t that I despise portobellos. I just think they are nothing specials. I gave away most and am using the rest in a ragu. BTW for those exploring freeganism do not be afraid of giving things away. Often your later return is greater than any initial barter outcome. It shows honor and trust within the freegan community


  309. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    kwsventures Says:
    “Wanting Obama to succeed” is different than “believing he will succeed.” My view is Obama is leading us to debt hell and ultimate financial disaster. Time will tell if I am right. What I do know never in history has so much debt let to anything but disaster.

    We are already in debt hell thanks to George Bush and the Republican’t party. He took a surplus and made it into a huge deficit. He took a national debt of $5 trillion and doubled it to $10 trillion. And none of that money was invested in this country.

    I have no problem with President Obama putting this country into further debt if it is an investment in THIS country. When he turns the economy around and people are employed again, he can then start paying down that debt and fix the deficit. That will never happen as long as we are in a Recession/Depression.

    Here’s an analogy. You own a company. It has fallen on hard times and you are forced to lay off some of your employees. You then have an opportunity to borrow money to fix what is wrong with the company and expand the company. Now you are making more money and you not only can rehire the people you had to lay off, you can also hire new employees.


  310. dbadass says:

    Didn’t we already show that debt hell is way better than dorkville debt heaven?


  311. Witch1 says:

    One last post as I go work in the sunlight and great out door’s…65 million and they are all conservative.?//Baaaabatshit, they are the crazie’s killing their own right here in america…Reich winged relegious nut’s and pedafile’s all or most…LOL…

    We on the left are gun owner’s also, trollie..Just we don’t go around killing people or thing’s for godma or crazyness…Something that plagues the reich…Surely all the inbreeding and mental masterbation of your leader’s like limpdick,dild O’ lilie and the haters help’s your cause..Time to go back under your bridge and count your ammo..Blessings to everyone else.


  312. Hoodathunktick says:

    A blast from the past…slightly OT. April 4, 1968. James Earl Ray and one of those nifty righty tighty guns.

    But it didn’t stop the change.


  313. Hoodathunktick says:

    Riddle me this, Batsh*t. What do you have when there is a militant minority threatening violence and reprisal because their ideology demands it?

    Iraq? Iran? Afghanistan? The US of A?


  314. noseeum says:

    “Iraq? Iran? Afghanistan? The US of A?”

    All of the above.


  315. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    Hoodathunk,

    And in one of the great, ironic mistakes in life, there’s this story.

    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_7_101/ai_83040499/

    A plaque intended to honor baritone-voiced actor James Earl Jones at a celebration of late civil rights leader the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in Lauderhill, FL, instead was erroneously inscribed to James Earl Ray, King’s killer.

    “Thank you James Earl Ray for keeping the dream alive,” read the plaque, which prompted outrage among civil leaders.

    The plaque, to be presented at Lauderhill’s annual King celebration, was made by Texas-based Merit Industries at the request of Adpro, a Lauderhill-based business.

    But instead of thanking Jones, the plaque erroneously honors Ray, who shot and killed King in 1968.


  316. JAJ says:

    It will never be that I HOPE President Obama fails, quite the contrary. I do however see that the policies being adopted by the administration are not ultimately leading to success. I do not apologize for the policies of the previous administration. I do see many failures by the administration of President GWB. I do see successes as well. Where we seem to be is at a point where a President succeeds or fails. Yet with the system of checks and balances in place it would seem to me that any success or failure by a President, MUST, also be attributed to our Executive Branch as well as Judicial Branch: For they are all tasked with the job of ensuring the balance of the others. This isn’t an effort to, “spread the blame around” unless that is just another way of saying spread the accountability around. The Oath of Office the President takes is to “the the best of my abilities: support, sustain, and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.” I concede that President Bush failed in much defending the Constitution, on many counts. I believe that he abused “executive privilege”. Is that o whole lot different than the forced resignation of GM or any yet to be dismissed from the private sector at the whims of Czar Geithner? I digress… Yet with that we have to in the same breath assign like accountability to the other branches of our government. To do otherwise is to place too much power in the executive branch by the others, which carry with it the willful surrender of power by the other two branches. In fact I prefer the call these branches the pillars of our government, the function of our government. These pillars are out of necessity given equal burden to bear. They each have equal responsibility to hold up the whole.
    I agree that it is very poor in taste and un-American to hope for the failure of President Obama. I wouldn’t go so far as treasonous. Let me pose this though. Many here have said they didn’t want President Bush to fail. I will agree and hope that is genuine. When it was clear that his decision making wasn’t going to be in line with what you thought was needful for the safety and security of the nation, did that change? I have very little confidence in President Obama’s actions over the course of the last 70+ days. I see very little actions to suggest that really to the best of his ability he is defending, preserving, or protecting the Constitution. If that is his agenda, I hope he fails, yet I choose to hope that he wants the success of the USA, even though his current regime has not exhibited that to me just yet.


  317. JAJ says:

    For what it’s worth though to not even consider that the phone call was a hoax is idiotic. Just as assuming it wasn’t would be. I just think it rather comedic that all NON DEM’s are being considered racist bigots. in the breath you say that you actually pin the bigotry tag onto your own chest. Just food for thought.


  318. Hoodathunktick says:

    sheesh, another concern troll, wordier than most, who still displays a lack of grammar, puncutation and intelligence.


  319. Hoodathunktick says:

    If that is his agenda, I hope he fails, yet I choose to hope that he wants the success of the USA, even though his current regime has not exhibited that to me just yet.

    Still got that fascist meme running?


  320. JAJ says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:
    ________________________________________
    kwsventures Says:
    “Wanting Obama to succeed” is different than “believing he will succeed.” My view is Obama is leading us to debt hell and ultimate financial disaster. Time will tell if I am right. What I do know never in history has so much debt let to anything but disaster.
    It’s a fair point.
    The question must be asked, however, if, while you’re busily fearing the nation’s impending financial disaster, you recognize the culpability of the previous administration in the current situation we face.
    And yes a valid question. .. but then do we need to ask if it was simply the previous administration or do our seated leaders of the house and senate have a responsibility in the mess too? Feel free to pin it all on a republican congress. But where were the opposing leaders and how is it the people just sat by idly? I think that this brings up a great time to have the people secure the country. Whether you are republican or democrat, do you honestly think that these leaders, at the end of the day care more about you and I or about themselves and their “causes” and their next election?


  321. Hoodathunktick says:

    Once and for all, trolls, if the current administration were in any way a regime the obstructionist Republican members of Congress would be admiring their fashionable orange jump suits in sunny Cuba.

    Tell me, has anyone ever told a Republican MOC to STFU?

    I will await your answer JAJ.


  322. Hoodathunktick says:

    and, OT does JAJ stand for Just A Jerk?


  323. JAJ says:

    Hoodathunktick Says:

    sheesh, another concern troll, wordier than most, who still displays a lack of grammar, puncutation and intelligence.

    What I find comical is that you attack grammar, “puncutation” and intelligence, rather than merits of what was written. For what it’s worth, you should look up the correct grammar, PUNCTUATION, and intelligence of your post. See how you fare. LOL


  324. JAJ says:

    Again you offer so much ON TOPIC?!?! Oh the comedy of it all.


  325. JAJ says:

    “Tell me, has anyone ever told a Republican MOC to STFU?”

    Finally you actually go on topic. Well kind of in that this is about people wanting President Obama to fail. So hard to stay on topic with all the hate. I am going to make an assumption on your acronym since I don’t speak much of the lingo of acronyms. I do think many have told a Republican member of congress to STFU… not sure what that proves. WOW! You got me!


  326. Hoodathunktick says:

    Sorry, JAJ, I had to comment on your lack of understanding of expressing the English language. As to responding to the merits of your post, first, it was difficult to pull any merit from your incoherent rambling. Second, it was babble with no substance, lacking any sort of viable argument. Cliche and talking point discussions may be acceptable on your usual sites but here we like things like facts, documentation and coherence.


  327. JAJ says:

    Tell me this Hooda, do you hope that the republican leaders “fail” in their duties? So long as any leader is really doing their duty that the swore to do, I hope for wild success.


  328. Hoodathunktick says:

    Attention, troll crap on thread! Bring the fire hose, a mop won’t cut it with this clown.


  329. Hoodathunktick says:

    JAJ, surprise time, the Republicans have already failed, eight year track record.


  330. JAJ says:

    Thank you for all the, “facts, documentation and coherence.”

    Care to enumerate the, “lack of understanding of expressing the English language.”


  331. Hoodathunktick says:

    Master Po says: When dealing with clown, bring seltzer bottle and whoopee cushion.


  332. JAJ says:

    On point, Hooda, I am assuming that neither you nor I want President obama to fail. Is that a fair assessment? Do you support every choice policy he has enacted?


  333. Hoodathunktick says:

    Seltzer bottle? Whoopee cushion. Such tough choices.

    Maybe a joy buzzer?


  334. Hoodathunktick says:

    Master Po says: You know what they say about assume.


  335. JAJ says:

    When are your facts, documentation, and coherence coming? Was it just too much to ask you to defend your claim? And I can tell I asked some really HARD questions in post 364.


  336. Hoodathunktick says:

    Master Po says: JAJ pwned.


  337. JAJ says:

    Uh okay… you still have offered nothing you said to represent. How is it I was “pwned”?


  338. Hoodathunktick says:

    Master Po says: Only thing Republican troll can claim as hard is the ability to think.

    Maybe stool if not enough fiber in diet.


  339. Hoodathunktick says:

    Say buhbye JAJ.


  340. JAJ says:

    Say something of substance Hooda. I suppose a well thought out response or rebuttal was just too much to ask.


  341. Hoodathunktick says:

    A revolution feeds on its own children.


  342. Hoodathunktick says:

    And a troll on its own excrement.


  343. Hoodathunktick says:

    Like I said, buhbye JAJ.


  344. JAJ says:

    Too hard to stay on point I can see… what a waste. You had such promise in your claims, had you been able to substantiate. I was looking forward to actual dialogue as opposed to what you have provided.

    Why is it so hard for people to have a well thought out response and debate on a forum. They can make claims that they use facts, documentation and coherence, yet when asked for those they speak of mythical creatures.


  345. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    dbadass Says:

    Still I get all flustered over great tits…
    __________

    Even more so when in the vicinity of a bush?


  346. dbearton says:

    RepubliCons are stupid! Why doesn’t Brooks say something we don’t already know. Maybe Brooks is stupid, too.


  347. JAJ says:

    Here Here, TRHS!!!!


  348. Hoodathunktick says:

    JAJ says:They can make claims that they use facts, documentation and coherence, yet when asked for those they speak of mythical creatures.

    Sounds sort of Republican, don’t it?


  349. Hoodathunktick says:

    No, JAJ, I am not going to play your game of thread stealing over talking points and trivia. Shine a little light into your troll brain and I might engage you in discussion.


  350. Hoodathunktick says:

    But if you would rather discuss with TRhS, feel free. All I ask is let me go make some popcorn.


  351. JAJ says:

    Hoodathunktick Says:

    sheesh, another concern troll, wordier than most, who still displays a lack of grammar, puncutation and intelligence.

    Hoodathunktick Says:

    Sounds sort of Republican, don’t it?

    Sounds kinda ignorant doesn’t it? You have a career in politics no doubt. You have a penchant for claiming something or promising something only to exhibit the opposite when put to the fire.

    Good luck, and thank you for the comedy. If you ever feel like providing the “facts, documentation, and coherence” you spoke of, I will welcome the chance to feast on your words.


  352. Hoodathunktick says:

    “Shine a light, shine a light on him, bring him back home again”

    Apologies to Janis.


  353. Hoodathunktick says:

    JAJ, no claims made here. Other than being tired of dealing with trolls. Talking points I can get from pundits.


  354. Hoodathunktick says:

    Master Po likes those.


  355. JAJ says:

    Hoodathunktick Says:

    “here we like things like facts, documentation and coherence.”

    there is your claim… care to demonstrate? I guess it’s my turn to get some popcorn.


  356. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    Since none of us knows each and every policy decision made by President Obama (some are classified, some are not made public, most are not reported in the press in full), it is meaningless to ask if anyone “supports” all of them. As with any president, there will be decisions not entirely popular with the people who voted him into office. Since the answer would obviously be “No,” the question itself is pointless.

    So I’d rather talk about this concept of a “loyal opposition.” My very serious question is, “To whom or to what are they being ‘loyal’?” There are those who have argued along the lines that the Republican Party is just “doing its job” by opposing the president’s policies. Is this being loyal to one’s country or to one’s own party’s interests. The Republican party has operated under the delusion that their policies are “good for America.” This is not accurate. Their policies are good for American Corporations, but that is not the same as, nor even remotely connected to, what is good for America. Is it good for America to de-regulate corporations (despite the Constitution’s clear mandate that the Congress regulate commerce among the several states) to the point where ordinary citizens like you or me can have our lives ruined by them? How?

    Too many people believe that what is good for Corporate America is good for the United States of America. This is only true if you believe that Corporations should run our government. And we all know what that’s called.


  357. JAJ says:

    Well well well said Wayne! Based on what has been shown, to whom or what are any of our leaders being loyal? I don’t think the debauchery and self serving corners are owned by Republicans alone.


  358. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    JAJ,

    One group at a time. Let’s start with the party out of power. To whom or to what are the Republicans being loyal?


  359. Ape-Man says:

    @388 Wayne Ant Schneider Says:
    Too many people believe that what is good for Corporate America is good for the United States of America. This is only true if you believe that Corporations should run our government. And we all know what that’s called.

    For those of us who don’t know what that’s called, it’s called fascism.


  360. JAJ says:

    Are we talking generally or over the previous administrations regime?

    To answer your question, I submit to themselves and their party.


  361. JAJ says:

    Ape man, I respectfully disagree with your assessment and definition of fascism, as presented.



  362. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    JAJ Says:

    Are we talking generally or over the previous administrations regime?

    To answer your question, I submit to themselves and their party.
    April 4th, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    (sighs patiently)

    I’m talking about the Republican Members of Congress (both chambers) today, the ones who are voting against everything President Obama wants to do just for the sake of voting against it. To whom or to what are they being loyal?


  363. JAJ says:

    LOL, thank you for your patience.

    Logically you could deduce two possibilities, that they are toeing the party line, which is extremely likely, but also they could be opposed to the policies President Obama is promoting. You throw in a biased statement that they are voting against President Obama just for the sake of it. Is it possible that it isn’t all self interest? Or are we all just THAT cynical?


  364. JAJ says:

    Is it all or nothing if Republican votes against it he is automatically toeing the party ilne?


  365. noseeum says:

  366. dbadass says:

    I despise popcorn. Still I can tell whether or not I loke the film…


  367. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    JAJ,

    When every single Republican in the House votes against Obama’s policies, please don’t try to pretend that they each had their own individual reasons, arrived at independently, for voting against them. They are voting No just for the same of voting No.

    How many Republicans in Congress will support the Employee Free Choice Act? In their already publicized opposition to it, are the being loyal to the citizens who voted them into office, or to the corporations (who had no vote) that funded their campaigns?


  368. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    s/b “sake of voting No”.


  369. Ape-Man says:

    The republicans oppose the policies President Obama is promoting because they have their own agenda. The republicans are not a policy party any more, obviously, so there’s no point in them playing that game anymore, period. Republicans have to hope that every greedy racist sell out will vote for them because that’s who they are attracting now.

    BTW – nothing gets a real fascist system up and running like engaging in torture. There are at least fourteen widely accepted policies that together constitute fascism JAJ. they don’t happen by accident. We (you) all let then happen one by one, unless we are very careful.


  370. Ape-Man says:

    JAJ, the republican agenda is not the people’s agenda. It obviously appeals to a small percentage though. Why does it appeal to you? Help us understand.


  371. Zooey Lepidoptera says:

    JAJ Says:

    Here Here, TRHS!!!!
    April 4th, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    Actually, it’s “hear hear.”

    Please make a note of it.


  372. 1ChanceOnly says:

    I’m from GA and you are right the good ole boys (white) are Racist and can’t stand the fact that we have a brilliant President that just happens to be Black. Can you believe that red neck. Brooks has my admiration.


  373. lvdragonlady says:

    This kind of thinking(wanting Obama to fail) is TREASONOUS and a threat to America.


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