Ten Democrats vote for Sens. Kyl and Lincoln’s bill protecting the children of multimillionaires.
By on Apr 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Ten Democrats vote for Sens. Kyl and Lincoln’s bill protecting the children of multimillionaires.
Sens. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) and Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) recently introduced a $250 billion amendment to slash estate taxes for the heirs of multimillion-dollar estates. Yesterday, the Senate narrowly passed the bill by a 51-48 vote. Joining Republicans in approving the bill were ten Senate Democrats:
Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cantwell (D-WA), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Tester (D-MT)
As the New York Times explained, under Obama’s budget, “99.8 percent of estates will never — ever — pay a penny of estate tax. The heirs of the remaining 0.2 percent of estates are who Ms. Lincoln and Mr. Kyl are so worried about.”
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Goof Lord… have these fools lost their minds?
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 amI’m disappointed in Cantwell and Murray. What were they thinking?
Oh wait — they come from an area populated by Microsofties. Three million dollars probably doesn’t sound like that much money to them.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:33 amWhat a Hall of Shame these 10 Democrats make.
Veto time.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 amTen Democrats vote for Sens. Kyl and Lincoln’s bill protecting the children of multimillionaires.
– - How can these people be entrusted to govern and guide this country when it’s obvious that Congress is just loaded with bottom-feeding, mouth-agape, meatlocker temperature IQ types?
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 amWe need to elect more people who “have never met a millionaire”, not those who “have never met a millionaire they will not serve”…
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 amChildren who have the luck to be born into family wealth need even more protection for their money? The estate tax cuts in at around $3 million, I think — after that, it is subject to taxation — are we supposed to be sympathetic to that?
This is pandering to the tiny class of the wealthiest who have this “unearned income.”
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 amEspecially today, how do these senators explain themselves to the far greater majority of their constituency who are living from day to day.
Should be – are we supposed to be sympathetic to them
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 amIs this something Obama can veto?
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 amVerbalKint Says:
Veto time.
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Boy… you can say that again…
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VerbalKint Says:
Veto time.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 amBaucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cantwell (D-WA), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Tester (D-MT)
Isn’t the above the majority or entire list that comprises that imbecilic “Moderate/Centrist Senate” group ?
And they wonder why they were initally bad-mouthed ?
Guess they’re intent on proving they deserve all the disdain and derision ………………….
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:40 amMarie Says:
Is this something Obama can veto?
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Depends on how big a majority vote for it in both houses, and whether it even gets out of the House, I’d think.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 amMarie Says:
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Is this something Obama can veto?
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Yes …………Any Bill that passes can be vetoed by the President the 1st time ; even if all 100 Senators voted in favor of it………..
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 amI don’t think a veto will be necessary. This is not likely to pass in the House.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:43 amSenator Al Franken would have voted NAY, but Norm Coleman believes in frivolous lawsuits, not democracy.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:45 amBlanch Lincoln wants to protect the Walmart heirs….She is no Democrat…she is just a rat!!
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:46 amAh, the familiar Blue Corporacrats, Baucus, Bsyh, Landrieu the Nelson brothers, and Senators from the WalMart state.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:48 amMCMetal: Budgets do not require the President’s signature, but it will go to the House, and certainly will be knocked down there…if not there, it most certainly will be when the budget is reconciled in the conference. There is no line-item veto..remember that as well. I do not think that Pres. Obama will want to veto his entire budget!
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 amNone of this matters, because Obama will veto this. As Austin Carr might say, “Get that weak stuff outta here!”
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 amCall their bluff, and endorse elimination of the estate tax – -coupled with an elimination of the cap on SSI deductions.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:52 amVerbalKint Says
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
Veto time.
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Unfortunately, since this is an amendment to the Senate budget package, President Obama would have to veto the entire budget.
It’s a pity that presidential line-item veto was found to be unconstitutional. But I suppose I should be grateful Dubya didn’t have it in his toolbox.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 amCongress Critters should have to pay their own health insurance.
Perhaps then they’d see what the average American is going through right now…double digit premium costs, much higher deductibles, denial for a host of suspect ‘issues’, while BCBS takes company paid Caribbean escapes.
The Estate Tax will never affect most of us. The super rich, however, make sure their elected officials get paid off so they’re there ‘when the need them’.
Guess we know who Bayh’s ‘circle of DINO’s’ are, eh?
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 ammisscoleopteramolly Says:
Unfortunately, since this is an amendment to the Senate budget package, President Obama would have to veto the entire budget.
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Right… I was wondering about just that. I wasn’t sure if it was a stand alone or an amendment.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 amThey are wrong. I think they have not thought through the fact that the American people are fed up with the rich getting richer, and the rest of us, no matter how hard we work getting the shaft. We are tired of the bs. Vote them out of office in the next primary! Elect a Democrat who is true to the people they represent.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 amMarie Says
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Is this something Obama can veto?
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If it was a stand-alone bill, yes.
However, this is an amendment to the Senate budget package, so the only way Obama could veto it would be to veto the entire budget. Hardly likely.
But to even get to Obama’s desk, the House and the Senate versions of the budget package have to be reconciled, and we don’t know if this amendment will get through that process.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 amLeeHope Says:
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MCMetal: Budgets do not require the President’s signature, but it will go to the House, and certainly will be knocked down there…if not there, it most certainly will be when the budget is reconciled in the conference. There is no line-item veto..remember that as well. I do not think that Pres. Obama will want to veto his entire budget!
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
I thought this was a ’stand alone’ Bill ; the thread stated nothing about this being a line-item vote …………..
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 amThis government accepts bribes, the rich influence the laws.
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 amI think it’s more of a case of protecting their own children.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pmI hope you don’t think they’re in D.C. for the rest of us.
Thanks fellow TP’ers for pointing out that this bill is an amendment to the budget and not, by itself, able to be vetoed. I misread this as a separate bill and I stand corrected. I still don’t think it will pass in the House nor in reconciliation.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pmSenators Murray and Cantwell are gonna get an earful of dragonfly buzz when I get home from work tonight.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm“Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cantwell (D-WA), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Tester (D-MT)”
Enemies of the people. Blue Swine dems. Traitors. Tools of the Plutocracy. Their flames need to be extinguished.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pmThey forget that elections have consequences… this gives their challengers a lot of ammunition.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pmFew folks realize that Nelson & Nelson aren’t DINO in name only;
they’re both old enough to have lived WITH Dinosaurs
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:10 pmPatrioticLiberalChristianMantisReligiosa Says:
I still don’t think it will pass in the House nor in reconciliation.
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One can hope…
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pmQuestion: Who allowed this bill to the floor? I’m looking at you, Reid!
PEACE
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pmArkansas? Hmmm, what HUGE firm – which pays minimum wage and offers very few employees any benefits – is located in that state? I think Walmart. Walmart hurts America by buying all their goods in China (sending money over there) and by limiting the prosperity of their workers.
I guess the rich children of Walmart need my protection too? What about me? What about YOU?
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pmSorry, should have read the entire thread. So who allowed this ammendment to be added?
PEACE
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pmBaucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cantwell (D-WA), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Tester (D-MT)
I find it despicable that this same group has been, for the most part, critical of the Obama budget YET would add this amendment to protect .2% of the population.
It is time for wealthy to pay their fair share, no more or no less, instead of trying to escape the tax man.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pmThat’s the problem with having rich people in government — they vote to protect their own.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pmLest we forget: we will be holding our own accountable for their hypocrisy. ALL Republicans voted for this. This is why all these GOP trolls screech about the free market and less governement, because they want to pray to the right gods so that one day they’ll be rich off the exploitation of others, and then THEY can hoard their wealth and give nothing back to the society that gave them that opportunity. Ideology my ass. It’s poorly rationalized greed.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pmAll ten of these senators have to protect their fundraising cash cows.
Most if not all Senators have very few laudible ethics.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmBaucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cantwell (D-WA), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Tester (D-MT)
Corporate Whores, each and every one. Lets hope they lose their next primaries and are replaced by someone that gives a damn about the rest of us.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pmBy all means, let’s not make Skippy Rockefeller’s life more difficult than it already is.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:40 pmDon’t count on change in Arkansas anytime soon, folks. I am a recent immigrant here from Texas, and have the good fortune to reside in an overwhelmingly blue county. However, my understanding of state politics here, which continues to evolve, suggests that Pryor and Lincoln have total security on their left flank, which allows them to do outrageous shit like this. Affluence in the Fayetteville, Bentonville, and North Little Rock areas appears to have the upper hand in our electoral process.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pmSeriously, there are NO rich people who turned out poor because they paid estate taxes.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pmObama please veto this bill. This is outrageous. Bayh and Nelson votes against health care and energy but they can vote against less taxes for the rich.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:44 pmAlso, aren’t these the same people who took out the provision to make the middle class tax cuts permanent. I’m confused. Who are these idiots working for? They aren’t working for poor Americans.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:48 pmRU – I’m in WA too – here’s my note to Patty:
Senator Murray – Your break from the Democrats in supporting the Kyl-Lincoln amendment is a HUGE disappointment to a constituent like myself who is not congenitally wealthy. America is not a neo-monarchy, and we do not have a hereditary aristocracy for good reason. This legislation seeks to establish an economic aristocracy, and does not reflect the spirit and values enshrined in our Constitution. I cannot imagine why you and Senator Cantwell voted for this – unless it is to preserve your contributions from the Gates family. I look forward to finding out more about your Democratic challengers in the upcoming primaries.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pmFrom the makers of your fa, well, a margarine…
I Can’t Believe They’re Not Progressive! All the party and rhetoric without the votes!
Seriously, THIS is the will of the constituents? Oh, I forgot. The rich don’t have to pay taxes, they have the Divine Right of kings and Providence, they simply have been paying taxes out of their generosity.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pmThere was some guy on the tv this morning going on and on about how if we don’t “need” something we shouldn’t fund it. Of course he was referring to some of the projects in the budget.
So, do those millionaires “need” this tax cut?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pmDamn Joe Lieberman and CT Repubs setting a trend! At least their nominee probably would have been wrong but more honest then Joe, maybe we should get out of Iraq after all, Liesberman. Plus name recognition… Joe could’ve just said he gets all votes by text message from Jerusalem and he still would’ve gotten “Who’s running? Oh yeah, Lieberman. Almost VP. I’ll vote for him.”
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pmPoor Mz. Blanche, just trying to do her job for her corporate bosses…..
In a response to questions from the Arkansas Times:
“Many people claim that this proposal is being pushed by the Waltons and others. I can assure you they don’t care. This bill is aimed at farms and small businesses who will never achieve the wealth of entrepreneurial families like the Waltons and others. These are the people who employ the majority of workers in Arkansas. These are the people who, if we reform the estate tax, will invest in their business and create more jobs rather than spend capital on protecting their families from a 55 percent tax burden should they die.
“With all the money we’ve spent to help the economy improve, very little of it has filtered down to Main Street and family-owned businesses. We should take the opportunity to give these businesses the tools they need to reinvest in themselves so they can keep their businesses not only running, but growing and providing new jobs for their communities. Small businesses and family businesses are the engines of our local economies, and at this time of economic crisis, it is all the more crucial to make investments that will help them create jobs.”
Which of course is the same BS she pulls out of her ass whenever estate taxes are brought up. If her BS was not BS then she would bring up a bill to raise the threshold not just do away with the estate taxes all together.
I wonder if David Pryor smacks his son each time he sees him. If he doesn’t he should.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:10 pmInsane.
Cutting Rich kids’ tax? Really?
Really?
Come primary time, remember these idiots, people of Florida, Arkansas, Indiana, Nebraska, Louisiana, Washington…
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pmnicely put, tombaker.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pmOh come on people, haven’t you heard what that dingbat Michele Bachmann has said? Our country is running out of rich people. If we don’t save the rich people today they might be extinct tomorrow just like the dinosaurs. *shedding a fake tear for the plight of the rich*
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pmknixphan Says:
Insane.
Cutting Rich kids’ tax? Really?
Proponents of this move always talk about the poor farmers, how will the poor farmers be able to survive etc. Well, I suspect if the farm was worth enough for that to be a problem, they could probably afford some advice from an estate tax planner who would have all sorts of good advice to avoid the tax man.
This is a Make-Paris-Hilton-Richer amendment.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pmPost their email addresses and let us notify them of what we think.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 pmThe key is reconciliation between the House and Senate versions of the budget. Expect slipperyness, if the past is any indicator.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:26 pmThe drive to the global lowest common denominator on taxes occurs one amendment at a time. It parallels the move to offer powder puff financial regulation and decimate worker pay/benefits.
I bet Evan Bayh takes the for-profit health care position given his ample family income from board directorships (wife-Susan). WellPoint made the Bayh’s wealthy.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 pmtombaker Says:
I cannot imagine why you and Senator Cantwell voted for this – unless it is to preserve your contributions from the Gates family.
Actually, in Bill Gates’ case, he has stated that he does not intend to leave his children much money. Doesn’t think it would be good for them.
Gates, founder of Microsoft, intends to leave his progeny only $10 million each, a tiny fraction of his multibillion-dollar fortune. The rest will go to charity.
That said, apparently this amendment would help his kids keep more of that $10M.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:29 pmAmerica’s best return on investment? The campaign contribution. Always ways, always will be. Believe in the CW that “elections have consequences” all you want. But if you want serious ROI for your buck, buy yourself a Congresscritter.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pmspencers butterfly mom Says:
Question: Who allowed this bill to the floor? I’m looking at you, Reid!
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Good question and answer. Reid proves time and time again that other then being a spineless coward he is also a puppet for the wealthy and elite of this country. I would imagine the corrupt jerk from Nevada has lots of cash tucked away somewhere that he wants to pass on to his children too.
This is just one more example of the average American not being represented.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pmThe Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity Says:
Goof Lord… have these fools lost their minds?
No, just their souls.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:36 pmblackwidow Says: quoting “poor Mz. Blanche”
These are the people who, if we reform the estate tax, will invest in their business and create more jobs rather than spend capital on protecting their families from a 55 percent tax burden should they die.</em>
This doesn’t make sense to me. How are they spending “capital on protecting their families” exactly? Would that be by forcing them to hire estage tax planners?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pmOops, didn’t mean to italicize the last paragraph. And, obviously I meant to type “estate”.
This riles me up as you can see.
Our elected “representatives” seem to have a difficult time representing us sometimes.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm“Baucus (D-MT), Bayh (D-IN), Cantwell (D-WA), Landrieu (D-LA), Lincoln (D-AR), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Nelson (D-NE), Pryor (D-AR), Tester (D-MT)”
PIGS GET FAT AND HOGS GET SLAUGHTERED!!!!
Primaries here we come!!!!!! F***en IDIOTS!!!
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:12 pmWhile I do not understand why he voted this way Tester remains a good guy.
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 pmWell, at least we will have more Paris Hiltons to make light of….
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pmSenator Lincoln is procting the Walton Family of Bentonville
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:50 pmCall it the Paris Hilton amendment…
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 pmDo these DINOs think that having to pay estate taxes will bring the rich kids to poverty?
Do they think that the kids who are presently living in poverty do not need all the help they can get?
They come up with the old canard about family farms, etc., and despite that oft-heard claim, there has never been a family farm that went under because of the inheritance tax.
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:06 pmThis is a sop to the welathy (read: donors) to their campaigns.
SHAME SHAME SHAME!!!!!
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 pmI think they want a REVOLUTION. They certanly are taking the will of the American people for a ride…
When will the american people start to surround Congress and demand actual ‘CHANGE’????!!!!
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 pmImagine if people did it! The Capitol Hill surrounded by people as far as the eye can see and demanding : No banksters bail out, end of war and illegal occupation, prosecution of Bush/Chenney & Co. for war crimes, demanding thhe cut by half of the military budget, social justice, the rule of law, etc.
Imagine that!
We should all be asking why did they vote for this? I can only assume that they want to protect their own money
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:44 pmI am just beginning a list of dems who vote against the interests of the majority of the American public, and the bills/issues they took wrong stands on. When they come up for re-election I will look at the list and see if I want to send money to someone who will challenge them in their primary. I also let them know.
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 pmWhen you die your money should go to your family. Stop being jealous of people who have more than you. They don’t owe you anything. Its not your money.Don’t you want everything you have to go to your family?
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pmIf they were afraid of challenges from the left, they wouldn’t have spit in your eye…
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:27 pmjeff2001 Says:
When you die your money should go to your family. Stop being jealous of people who have more than you. They don’t owe you anything. Its not your money.Don’t you want everything you have to go to your family?
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:15 pm
No actually, if there’s anything left after the wake, I want it donated to charity. Inherited wealth is a great evil in a democracy, when it exists in excess. Justice Brandeis said “We can have great inhertied wealth or we can have democracy. We cannot have both.” Any fortune equivalent to over say $2.5Mil/survivor should be forefeit to the state, without which, if you’re honest (i know, I know), you’d have to admit the accumulation of the fortune would have been impossible…
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:31 pmOK, so let’s be fair about it and eliminate the estate tax on inheritances all together.
April 4th, 2009 at 12:20 amAs a Canadian, it appears to me that these ten so-called Democrats should join the GOP – the Guardians of Privilege!
April 4th, 2009 at 12:26 amSpecialized welfare, by name..what a concept!
April 4th, 2009 at 12:40 amI cant take the IOU’s with me when I die, so do not bury my gold im ny pyramid, give it to others…..only my others. The world needs more spoiled youth who did not earn their way.
April 4th, 2009 at 12:42 amThe world needs more spoiled kids else the national enquirer will die!!!
April 4th, 2009 at 12:43 amThe “Obama Song” (Fidel Castro), what can we learn from it? Only that it is not in tune with the realities of the world outside of what most of the G20 participants want (Eight rich, twelve wanting to be rich).
April 4th, 2009 at 5:13 amPres. Obama does not need to stop trying to save anglo-american capitalism (a failed historical effort), in order to listen to up and coming alternatives in the Third World. He only needs to stop trying to defeat the alternative solutions and the empirical evidence behind them.
These senators should be held accountable for their actions. They say the budget is too expensive on one hand, and then turn around to vote for this unnecessary give away, on the other.
I am really at a loss what they are up to and why they think the interest of 0.2% of Amreicans should trump that of the rest of us. I hope the house will knock this down so it does not make it to the final version.
I am very angry with these conservadems or whatever they call themselves!!!
April 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pmBlanche “The Rat” Lincoln needs to be voted out. And the A$$wipe Pryor is no son of his father. He must be a bastard. Where are Fulbright and Bumpers, when we need them.
April 4th, 2009 at 4:31 pmFisbarry,you say “give aways”. What are they giving away? The money is not yours or the goverment. If you have 100 dollars or 500 million dollars it should go to your family.
April 4th, 2009 at 4:59 pmThe problem is that those who cannot support themselves have come to depend on those who can, by way of government redistribution of wealth & income.
And its been going on for so long now that any feelings of gratefulness have long since evaporated and been replaced with disdain and demonization when the supporters still have some money left at the end of the day.
April 4th, 2009 at 5:17 pmDeath,yep i would say thats at the end of the day. lol.
April 4th, 2009 at 5:53 pmjeff2001 Says:
YOU are a moron. I could explain your mistakes and how stupid your argument is but I remember that thing about ghrowing my pearls before swine. You are too stupid to understand anything so why should I bother.
April 5th, 2009 at 6:10 amRomartin16985 Says:
The problem is that those who cannot support themselves have come to depend on those who can, by way of government redistribution of wealth & income.
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Ah not the problem is you Ebenezer Scrooge worshippers always get it wrong because you are morons. The problem is that the wealthy have come to depend on redistribution of wealth UPWARD.
And its been going on for so long now that any feelings of gratefulness have long since evaporated and been replaced with disdain and demonization when the supporters still have some money left at the end of the day.
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I dont know what is worse about this last paragraph its blatant stupidity or its total disconnect with reality.
April 5th, 2009 at 6:15 amYou are a moron. Hahaha stop being jealous of people who have more than you. They don’t owe you anything.
April 5th, 2009 at 8:50 amEugene,
Go peddle stupid somewhere else.
Those of us living in the real world aren’t buying it.
April 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pmjeff2001 Says:
You are a moron. Hahaha stop being jealous of people who have more than you. They don’t owe you anything.
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You moronic wingnuts think that the ONLY motivation is jealousy. That is pure projection. I have no reason to be jealous. I have a great life and I dont want anything from them. I HAVE a good life. I have healthcare. I have plenty of money. I want my nieghbor to have the same. I CARE if he has to chose between eating dogfood or having his medicine. I want the rich to give back to the society that made such a HUGE investment in their ability to make money. I am not an ignorant brainwashed moron like YOU.
April 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pmRomartin16985 Says:
Ro I keep telling you that you are WAY too stupid to recognize reality. YOUR stupid isnt MY fault. YOUR delusional fantasies do NOT define reality. You THINK, and I use that term in its loosest possible application that if you SAY something it becomes true. As for who is buying what I am pretty sure that if you look up our respective posts and count the recommends I am WWWAAAAAAAYYY ahead. More people are buying my take on these issues than your brainwashed ignorant spewing of what you have been programmed with you weak, pathetic loser.
April 5th, 2009 at 8:24 pmI SAID go wipe your chin, its embarrassing!
April 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pmRomartin16985 Says:
Yeah you keep saying that as if it were clever instead of stupid, boring and pathetic. Do you think you can read my mind? You think I am angry? You are stupid and you are a troll. Slapping you around is just the way I amuse myself. I have no emotional investment in this. Its just fun for me. I LOVE laughing at morons as stupid as you are.
April 6th, 2009 at 12:26 amRandom observation:
April 9th, 2009 at 12:51 pmThose who resort to name calling rarely have arguments worth reading.
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