Vice President Cheney has used his public appearances in recent months to launch fearmongering attacks against the Obama administration, in contrast to President Bush, who said Obama “deserves my silence.” Today on CNN’s State of the Union, Senior White House Adviser David Axelrod hit Cheney for not acting like a “statesman“:
AXELROD: [President Bush] has behaved like a statesman. And as I’ve said before, here and elsewhere, I just don’t think the memo got passed down to the vice president.
Watch it:
Axelrod also noted that Cheney’s insistence that he kept America safe flies in the face of reality. “I find it supremely ironic, on a day when we were meeting with NATO, to talk about the continued threat from al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they’re still plotting against us eight years — or seven years later,” he said. “I think the question for Mr. Cheney is, how could that be? How could this have gone so long? Why are they still in business?”
So? When did Darth ever act like a statesmen? NEVER!
April 5th, 2009 at 11:52 amLet’s stop letting the right wing get away with the lie that they “kept us safe since 9/11″. They did not. There were the anthrax letters that killed five people, and we still don’t know who really sent them. And by firing a large number of Arab translators from our intelligence services for no other reason than that they were gay, the Bush Administration actually put us in greater danger.
Stop letting the right wing lie. We are not safer because of what Bush and Cheney did, we are in even greater danger.
April 5th, 2009 at 11:53 am9/11 happened on Bush and Cheney’s watch. Do not forget that.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:00 pmCheney is delusional.
“…Bush has behaved like a statesman.” Finally. Of course, he’s only 8 years late. We could have used a hell of a lot more of his “statesmanship” during his abomin– I mean, administration. As for Deadeye Dick, cut out his forked tongue.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pmIf the right wing could argue that Bush and Cheney kept us safe since Jan 20, 2001, then I might listen. But they didn’t, so I won’t.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pmAnd let’s not forget the outing of Valerie Plame, an agent working on WMD.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pmlarkohio your right about that .they were also told that Osama was determind to strike on American soil. They did nothing.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:14 pmI flipped through and found Axelrod on Fox this morning. I’m not sure how much America is adding in funding to Afghanistan. Axelrod offered a half billion, then said a half trillion. Later he pulled back to half a million.
I know Chris Wallace is a putz, but that’s no reason to stammer and be unclear on details.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pmWell as an analogy Why go out to dinner when you can have room service. Bush and Cheney served up 160,000 warm American bodies they didn’t need to come here we delivered to their door. al Qaeda took full advantage of it and took twice as many American lives as they took on 9/11. What did we get for it all? Answer that question and you have the extent of Dick Cheney’s statesmanship
April 5th, 2009 at 12:23 pmThe issue here is Cheney’s insatiable narcissism. He has always been in a position of power, either as a CEO or, most recently, as President–excuse me–Vice President of the U.S. He strikes me as being the kind of man who would not brook any criticism of his divine right to rule, or of his well schemed plots. Input is not necessary when you’re a god, after all, and his omnipotence does not require any help from you and me, the “common people,” who he was going to protect by stretching on his long oily arm. His attempt now to disparage the Obama administration probably has several different functions. Several folks were talking about this recently on one of the MSNBC shows, either Olbermann or Maddow: Cheney is probably trying to set up a situation in which, providing something goes wrong, he can tell everyone “Told ya so.” Of course, in his frustrated brain something will go wrong because, per already stated, his opinions are certainties, not just theories or bad ideas.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pmMy own personal take on this farce is that Cheney, for the first time, has an opportunity to say what he really wants to say. Before, under Bush, he could only address the public under certain circumstances. If he said too much or showed his hand, he could box his boss into a corner and essentially make policy for him in an interview–although many of us believe he was making policy for Bush anyway. Now, nothing Cheney does matters, he can talk till the cows come home, spitting and sputtering like an old Buick. This seems to be Cheney just enjoying the sound of his own voice in a liberated format, without checking with Bush or anyone else. ‘Course, he sounds like a moron, but what the heck, why not sound off? In any case, it will just make a lot of people upset and then hopefully they won’t vote Republican.
Far too many coincidences happened on 9-11. And the neocons benefited immensely from them. The only thing Dick(head) Cheney has left to offer humanity is to finally leave it to humans.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pmAnd let’s also not forget that while they were supposedly “keeping us safe” they waged an illegal war for profit, tortured innocent people and terrorized the American people.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pmTampering in Afghanistan and having soldiers in the Middle East were al Qaida’s beefs with America.
That hasn’t changed much in the least. Add drone fired missile executions, including many noncombatants, and the seeds are planted for the next terror strike on American homeland.
Axelron ignores the methods President Obama utilizes that make America less safe over long periods of time.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:28 pmBurning Question: Why are they still in business?
Because dirty Dick and greedy George wanted and allowed it to happen.
Next question.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pmWatch out David, Cheney the Mafia Don still has his moles in the government, and his DEATH SQUAD just might be looking for new targets.
F Dick.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:32 pmAXELROD: [President Bush] has behaved like a statesman. And as I’ve said before, here and elsewhere, I just don’t think the memo got passed down to the vice president.
– - The memo was passed down alright. But then Addington, Libby and Mary Matalin chipped away at it and “reworked” it.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pmCheney is not out of the “scene”. He is embedded deeply with the wealthy and the powerful. He had, essentially, the top job and was able to advance the will of the wealthy and powerful. Don’t think for a second that he has any desire to relieve himself of his influence.
April 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pmRe Cheney
Whoever thought he was a statesman? Besides Limbaugh Beck Hannity & confederates in folly…
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April 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pmDick Cheney is the evil, bad guy character who wants to destroy the world in every James Bond book that was written. It’s as though Ian Fleming had Dick Cheney in mind when he thought of the evil bad guy.
Truth really is stranger than fiction.
April 5th, 2009 at 1:16 pmgood job, Mr. Axelrod – thanks for not holding back on the smackdown. No one deserves it more than Dick.
April 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pmal Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they’re still plotting against us eight years — or seven years later,” he said. “I think the question for Mr. Cheney is, how could that be? How could this have gone so long? Why are they still in business?”
al Qaeda is the BEST thing that ever happend to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld. The had NO INTENTIONS of killing Bin Laden.
As for Bush….statesman HA HA! Bush does not have the assassination squads still at his beck and call like Cheney. I know, for a fact, Bush is trying to keep a very low profile here in Dallas. He finally realized he does NOT have the same level of protection he had before and is more vulnerable. He is hoping people forget about his destructive administration for now.
April 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pmAfter all,Cheney was quite involved in another Presidential asassination in Dallas…
April 5th, 2009 at 2:03 pmAxelrod is being statesmanlike by calling W’s em>silence statesmanlike.
April 5th, 2009 at 2:28 pm“Statesman” Al Gore on Bush-
…”There was then, there is now and there would have been regardless of what Bush did, a threat of terrorism that we would have to deal with. But instead of making it better, he has made it infinitely worse. We are less safe because of his policies. He has created more anger and righteous indignation against us as Americans than any leader of our country in the 228 years of our existence as a nation — because of his attitude of contempt for any person, institution or nation who disagrees with him. “…
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In his second major policy speech in three months, former vice president Al Gore took aim yesterday at what he said was the Bush administration’s exploitation of the terrorist attacks of 2001 to justify an undemocratic suspension of domestic freedoms and to create a government built on “secrecy and deception.”
“Rather than defending our freedoms, this administration has sought to abandon them. Rather than accepting our traditions of openness and accountability, this administration has opted to rule by secrecy and unquestioned authority. Its assaults on our core democratic principles have only left us less free and less secure,” he said.
… In both cases, Gore said, the administration has “recklessly put our country in grave and unnecessary danger.”
April 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pmd’oh! screwed up my italics.
April 5th, 2009 at 2:34 pmi’m new here, so be gentle on me folks. with all of the finger-pointing and blame that’s so characteristic of americans and society here. let’s start looking at the imminence. people are tired, exhausted of hearing about the issues infringing on their daily lives. originating out of D.C.
April 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pmthe reason for me signing up is the latest in Washington state…the 4 kids killed by their own father. let’s try and understand people might be getting to the point they can’t even raise children in these political times. too much engineering in our daily lives/beauracracy making it so. good or bad, it’s here for good/cope and be vigilant of what’s causing it. hate only makes it worse. and hate isn’t ‘party’ affiliated.
dualdiagnosis Says:
“Statesman” Al Gore on Bush-
Were Gore’s statements made within the first 3 months after Bush entered office?
BTW, that 1 ‘recommend’ for your comment is by accident, I was actually just agreeing with what Gore said.
April 5th, 2009 at 2:43 pmHe has not been acting like a ‘statesman.’
Give Chenney a break!… War Criminals,Zionists, Facists, Pigs don’t know what a statesman is!
April 5th, 2009 at 2:51 pmbig diff there really…
Gore was telling the truth, and that’s been proven.
whereas
Dick was just lying, and that’s been proven too.
April 5th, 2009 at 2:52 pmlarkohio Says:
9/11 happened on Bush and Cheney’s watch. Do not forget that.
Cheney is delusional.
9/11 was an inside job! Dr. Steven Jones this week exposed his finding of the chemical contents of the dust from the WTC 1,2 and 7, and found TERMITE elements in all of them. Scientifically put to an end the “Official Theory”. With this find, science can say without any doubt that the collapse of these 3 buildings in NY was due to controlled demolition!
9/11 was an inside job on Bush & Chenney’s watch! We need an investigation! A real one!!!
April 5th, 2009 at 2:56 pmgammareas Says:
…people are tired, exhausted of hearing about the issues infringing on their daily lives. originating out of D.C.
The reason President Obama’s administration is having to “infringe” so deeply into the American Structural Society is because it was demolished by the Bush administration!! Bush not only destroyed the basic tenents of our Constitution, but the republicans removed all the safeguards in our financial system and told the wealthiest Americans to “have at it”. So Bush administration – in essence – destroyed America!!
I doubt very deeply that the American “people might be getting to the point they can’t even raise children in these political times” After only 3 months into the Obama Administration. This “fed up” feeling comes from being ruled by Monsters for 8 years
April 5th, 2009 at 3:10 pmI don’t know about the rest of you, but when I hear “…kept us safe after 9/11…” I always think of despite the warnings of President Clinton, Richard Clarke, and the August PDB that foretold that Bin Laden would strike in the US, I think well, this is the administration that looked away and did not keep us safe on 9/11.
Then they used the attacks as a huge power grab to subvert the constitution.
April 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pm9/11 was an inside job! Dr. Steven Jones this week exposed his finding of the chemical contents of the dust from the WTC 1,2 and 7, and found TERMITE elements in all of them. Scientifically put to an end the “Official Theory”. With this find, science can say without any doubt that the collapse of these 3 buildings in NY was due to controlled demolition!
By TERMITES!? So all that death, fear, and devastation could have been prevented by a visit from the Orkin Man?
Really, this makes no less sense than any other wacko theory about 9/11. And it made a better X-Files episode.
April 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pmWhy is john king milking the words of a total failure? Is it a slow news day?
April 5th, 2009 at 3:44 pmMidland,
Don’t typos suck? He meant “Thermite”. And if there really were traces of thermite in the debris, then someone has a lot of explaining to do.
April 5th, 2009 at 3:45 pmCheney’s actions and political decisions had absolutely nothing to do with making America safer. It had more to do with making America more powerful, but mostly it had to do with making a small subset of Americans richer and more powerful by any means necessary.
Cheney had once said that the only mistake that Nixon made was allowing his people to get caught. That pretty much sums up his Machiavellian mindset.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pmAs far as I’m concerned, Dick Cheney is a traitor and an enemy of the State. He should be arrested and tried for war crimes and treason IMMEDIATELY.
And after he’s found guilty (for he *is* guilty as sin) he should be executed.
And the same fate should befall all the traitors from the Bush criminal administration: Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, Gonzales, Ashcroft, Bremer, Yoo, Addington —- ALL OF THEM.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pmNot executed. I want to see that miserable old f*&k tried for international war crimes in the Hague and then thrown in prison to rot!
April 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pmEyes – that’d be ok with me too. I just want to see JUSTICE done.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:22 pmI wonder if it was cheney or bush that insisted they hold hands while answering questions about the events around 9/11.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pmWow, all this anger at one person, common you guys really need to get a life and move on. Your stuck in the past, I really think that since liberals control the house, senate, presidency, and most of the court system that ya’ll would be able to get something done around here.
As of late though the unemployment numbers keep going through the roof, and oh yeah, I just had to break open my kids piggy bank to help pay for Team Obama’s tax and spend policies.
Could we get real for just a moment? Henry morganthel said it best when eight years into a depression they still weren’t out after spending all that money. The acceptance that Obama enjoyed will campaigning for office is pretty much gone. The president of the Check republic said that Obama’s spending plan is a highway to hell. If that’s the case, I would definitely say that he isn’t well liked anymore.
On another point if all this bailout mania was worth it why haven’t we seen the fruit of the work? We started bailing out the banks under the Bush Administration in September, six months later, they still need more bailout money. The big 3 are actually fixing to declare bankruptcy. Why, I thought the bailout was suppose to fix this mess?
If you want to reach across the aisle, please let el presidente now that it’s past his nap time and please start treating our allies a little better, even if he is cutting defense spending.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pmThere is nobody on the other side of the isle. They all fell off a cliff.
April 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pmHi basher:
Have you plans to stay awhile or do you have other places to be. If you want we could talk some, get to know each other.
I enjoy meeting new people, even if I’m just a dragonfly. You don’t have anything against dragonflies do you?
April 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pmYou would not have this problem, if the Criminal Cheney was in prison were he belongs.
April 5th, 2009 at 6:45 pmYeah, yeah, yeah, basher – next thing you’ll be telling us is that you’re “NOT a Republican, you’re an independent.”
Gimme a break, moron. You were on board with all of Chimpy’s abysmal drunken and out-of-control spending on war, no bid contracts for KBR and Halliburton and on tax breaks for the filthy rich, weren’t you?? You salivated at the thought of the plotlines of “24″ being carried out for real at Gitmo, didn’t you? You drooled with joy over the thought of killing Muslims all over the world, I’ll bet.
Well now, you’ve got no room to talk. You should have spoken up EIGHT YEARS AGO, you moron. Now you’re just being an a**hole – so go spew your ridiculous crap on Redstate.
April 5th, 2009 at 6:48 pmliberalbasher,
after reading your posting, either you watch FOX News religously, or you blew your mind on too much acid.
I know the only way I can watch FOX News is to take a hit,
and beleive me when I tell I don’t do acid.
Just an observation, and if I were you I would give up both. give your brain a rest.
April 5th, 2009 at 7:47 pmObama is looking better all the time, the Facist Right Wing wants the power, and they will lie, cheat and steal to keep it. Look at the last 8 years under Cheneys command. The Right Wing Facists are having a melt down.
Axelrod, either your a fool for crossing Cheney , or your conscience has gotten the better of you. The statement was needed from the Republican side.
April 5th, 2009 at 7:54 pmThe evidence of thermite in the World Trade Center debris is in a peer-reviewed study in a scientific journal.
April 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pmLooks like Dr. Jones has been put on leave since his discovery. Does this mean he will get his job back?
btw- the link is broken for me right now…
April 5th, 2009 at 9:13 pmhttp://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
April 5th, 2009 at 9:19 pmliberalbasher, you really are a delusional moron.
America has it’s own Osama bin Laden and his name is Adolf ‘Dickless’ Cheney.
April 5th, 2009 at 11:54 pmI can’t remember when I have read so much BULL all in one place in a long time! Immature, liberal, bashing of everything. Funny, somewhere up there, someone Blamed Bush for 9/11 – “On his watch” = If I remember correctly, it was the Clinton administration and Panetta who reduced the national defense budget about 25% and helped lower our defenses. Bush inherited a mess, we got hit, and he had alot of responsibility, which he took to heart. He may not be your liberal idea of perfect, no one is, but he did work very hard to protect this nation. Many people in both parties are probably to blame. Most of the financial crash was directly linked to Fannie /Freddie – the loan mess, and the massive loans forced by groups like Acorn, and Democrat-linked housing programs – lots of partisanship by the Democrats who not only controlled the Congress for the last 3 years, but who shot down any attempts to REIGN in Fannie/Freddie. Worse, many DEMOCRATS actually got money from this group, and the CRONIES’ had alot to do with that. How could Barney Frank say 4 months before the election that ALL WAS FINE – only 2 months later to scream THE SKY IS FALLING! What is worse, and would be FUNNY if it were not so sad, in order to win the White House, your party folks, was willing to let the crisis happen and take most of your retirements. The very people who were in charge of the finance and banking committees let this go to play with politics at the expense of all of us! Both sides got hurt. Maybe someday you will see that.
April 5th, 2009 at 11:59 pmGammySparkles Says:
WOW another troll stupidity explostion. Do you have any idea how stupid you are? So Clinton cut defense spending by 25% WOW I didnt know that. Probably because it never happened and whatever screechmonkey does your thinking for you is playing you for the fool you are. Did his defense cuts somehow make it EASIER for nutbags with boxcutters to take over a commercial airliner of were they on Cold War weapons that even Rumsfeld and Cheney wanted? My GOD you are stupid but there is hope. You dont have to be PROUD of your stupidity by the way there is practically NO DIFFERENCE between the last Bush sr defense Budget and what Clinton spent on defense MORON
http://www.csbaonline.org/4Publications/PubLibrary/H.20000831.Post-Cold_War_Defe/H.20000831.Post-Cold_War_Defe.php
The post-Cold War decline in defense spending began during the Bush Administration.
There is almost no difference between the level of funding proposed for defense by President Bush in his last fiscal year (FY) 1994-99 budget plan and the level of funding actually provided for defense over this six-year period under the Clinton Administration. Both Bush planned funding and actual funding amounted to $1.72 trillion (in FY 2001 dollars).
Congressional add-ons since 1995, when the Republican Party gained control of both houses, account for only about 3 percent of the defense topline of the past six years.
Not only was the drawdown of the 1990s clearly a bipartisan affair, the best available evidence suggests that Democrats and Republicans are still remarkably close in terms of their support for defense spending. Under the latest Clinton Administration plan, funding for defense is projected to remain essentially flat in real (inflation-adjusted) terms through fiscal year (FY) 2005. The latest Congressional Budget Resolution (CBR) would provide only about one-third of 1 percent more over this period. In reality, the effectiveness with which the Department of Defense (DoD) is able to address US security challenges in the future is likely to depend much more on how wisely DoD spends than how much it spends.
Got any more idiocy that Rush programmed you with?
April 6th, 2009 at 12:38 amDon’t worry Gammy, he/it wanted us to get hit. It was all part of a plan so he could invade Iraq to get hold of an oil pipeline. The map of Iraq was drawn out before chimpy even took office. Our lack of defense on 9/11 had NOTHING to do w/ Clinton reducing the defense budget. It’s more like Cheney ordered a stand down.
Yeah he worked real hard to protect us by using our tax dollars to open a torture chamber in Cuba to maime innocent people while he and Cheney watched and drooled.
And the financial crisis can be traced directly to dirtballs in California, i.e. Countrywide, who took advantage of the Fannie/Freddie meltdown. What is this crap about democrat-linked housing programs? Banks were giving loans to people who couldn’t afford them. Get your facts straight before posting such drivel.
April 6th, 2009 at 12:59 amGammySparkles did Cheney torture you to spew your asinine words, or did you pop a couple of pills with that big lard Rush?
April 6th, 2009 at 5:37 amWhy isn’t Dick-wad Cheney in chains at the Hague facing war crimes and crimes against humanity charges yet?
Faire
April 6th, 2009 at 6:40 amDavid Axelrod hit Cheney for not acting like a “statesman“
That’s sort of like hitting Godzilla for not acting like a kitty.
April 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pmUmm, you are mistaking Bush’s silence as being “statesman-like!”
April 6th, 2009 at 4:14 pmI think that GWB is remembering something his mom probably taught him; If you can’t say something nice about someone, don’t say anything.
Axelrod is a joke. He still is trying to answer Cris Wallace’s question about One Trillion…One Billion or was that one million? hahaha He made millions last year just like George Soros while most people lost their shirts. You liberals seem to hate the rich…so where is you’re hate for Dingy Harry…Nancy Pee-louse-ie…and B.O.?
Dick Cheney has more integrity in his little finger than all the above have in their whole bodies combined!
April 6th, 2009 at 8:35 pmWhen will the DOJ start the investigation of the Bush Crime Syndicate. We need to start with Cheney’s energy plan, followed by a thorough and complete resolution to the events surrounding the false flag operation the PNAC crowd like to refer to as 9/11. We need an explanation about the destruction of the steel and concrete mega structures that were leveled by fire following the impact of airplanes. We need to know what happened to the 47 storey building, better known as WTC building #7; why did it “collapse” from a “fire in the basement.” We need to know what happened to the plane that allegedly struck the Pentagon yet left the signature of a cruise missile. We need to know how an airplane that was alleged to fall to the ground, left a very deep impression of itself, in the ground, prior to vaporizing.
We don’t need any to-ing and fro-ing with the war criminals.
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