Kentucky gun show features Obama-Hitler shirts and warnings to ‘prepare for Obama’s citizen army.’
Kentucky gun show features Obama-Hitler shirts and warnings to ‘prepare for Obama’s citizen army.’
As ThinkProgress has noted, the right wing continues to escalate its fear-mongering that President Obama will take away Americans’ Second Amendment rights. In a New York Times op-ed this weekend, Charles Blow reported that such rhetoric “has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms.” On Saturday, the Washington Independent’s Dave Weigel went to the bi-annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot in Kentucky and saw this phenomenon first-hand:
Weigel noted that all three boxes of the Hitler-Obama shirt had sold out by 3:00 p.m. on Saturday. In November, ThinkProgress went to The Nation’s Gun Show in Chantilly, VA, which featured similar fear-mongering. For example, an ad in the Washington Post for the event read, “GET YOUR GUNS WHILE YOU STILL CAN!!!”
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This isn’t funny. Maybe these people need to be investigated BEFORE somebody gets hurt.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:09 pmThese people are nothing short of insane. At best – they’re sociopaths.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pm*
Braindead inbred morons.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:10 pmAnd they wonder why normal people think they are freaks…
April 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pmGee, if they want to play with guns, why don’t they join the military and really defend the Constitution??
April 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pmThe New American Revolution.
Only problem is America loses.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pmThis is getting ridiculous. When more people get killed by crazed gun-rights supporters, they will also scream about their precious 2nd amendment rights. Unbelievable – this is sad.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:12 pmMore fear from the PHUCKING IDIOTS on the Reich!You people disgust me with your lies and deceit.No wonder this country is at the Crossroads today, why don`t you Reich Wing nut jobs wake up and smell the lies and deceit coming from your so called leaders.It really is people like the right that hates America and wants Obama to fail and if he fails AMERICA fails to.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pmSane people… Get out of these backwater gun show states while you still can.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pmY’all may want to consider reading David Neiwert’s new book, ‘The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right’
April 6th, 2009 at 5:14 pmI haven’t owned a gun since 1980. I’m thinking I might have to go buy one. Just to show the neocon freaks that tree huggers that they won’t take the US without a fight.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:14 pmI keep getting this really bad feeling that a bunch of these freaks are going to band together and decide to really go out and do something about their psychotic fears – mark my words – this is going to get really ugly before it gets any better.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pmEnd the gun shows.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pmGuido – watch out for where that “frenzy” you talked about leads – this sucks
April 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pmThe comments section from the Washington Independent story is also filled with loads of scaritainment!
The two boys in German hats and the “Hilter – Next time no more Mr. Nice Guy” pics are truly bizarre. So how is the left gets blamed for Columbine, Va. Tech & Binghamton?
I think I’ll go listen to more Michelle Bachmann rants to settle down. (AmeriCorp is a Re-Education Program — All Hail Obama).
April 6th, 2009 at 5:17 pmFear of the unknown and intolerance of ambiguity are two hallmarks of the conservative psyche.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
This isn’t funny. Maybe these people need to be investigated BEFORE somebody gets hurt.
too late. These people are McVieists who want an armed confrontation with the government because they screwed up the country and lost the election.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pmAhh So they need the guns to prevent communism? Is that it?
They need Israel to prevent what?
April 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pmHmmm… if this is what passes as ‘wit’ on the far right, maybe I should switch sides and make a bundle off t-shirts peddlin crazy…
April 6th, 2009 at 5:18 pmraynman #5:
April 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pmMy thoughts exactly! Join the military morons and you too can defend a far-flung post in the American Empire you love so much. THis sh$t is seriously getting crazy.
The Right Wing has turned into the Party of Fear, and existed quite well when there was some huge diabolical BAD THING that it could rally against, such as Commies! When the old BAD THING disappeared, they floundered around trying to create new BAD THINGS for people to be scared of.
When the people decided that fear was the wrong way to decide how to go through life, the the Right Wing decided that the new BAD THING to fear was America itself.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pmSachem Says:
The comments section from the Washington Independent story is also filled with loads of scaritainment!
The two boys in German hats and the “Hilter – Next time no more Mr. Nice Guy” pics are truly bizarre. So how is the left gets blamed for Columbine, Va. Tech & Binghamton?
I think I’ll go listen to more Michelle Bachmann rants to settle down. (AmeriCorp is a Re-Education Program — All Hail Obama).
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saw the picture of the two boys in
nazi hats. one was named “daryll”
and the other was “romartin”.
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April 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pmPoor s.o.b.’s got no idea who their real enemies are…
just the way GOPer bosses like it.
Whatever – like anyone will ever see those shirts, aside from other backwoods dive-bar and adult bookstore patrons.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pmAh, Capitalists praying on the simpleminded…
…they buy the lies on ReichWing Radio so I guess they can be sold anything.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:22 pmSELF-EXTINCTION
Today’s GOP is a genetically and or psychologically depraved hodgepodge of morally and ethically defective mutants, miscreants and kamikaze loyalists who are crashing and burning all things Republican. They are the figurative buzzards and hyenas fighting over the last scraps of a carcass that’s riddled with maggots and festering clumps of putrefied flesh. They are the opportunistic parasites whose very existence is and always has been dependent on the success of alpha predators. Today’s GOP represents nothing more than the dying gasps of a failing species that is desperately struggling to survive in shrinking pools of their own toxic waste.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pmif they all weren’t so braindead i might actually be concerned.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pmThis is racism in all its glory and shame. They don’t like the fact the President is black. It is very sad. I guess majority doesn’t rule any more.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:26 pmMaybe I should aim my rocket launcher at the next gunshow I come across
April 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pmraynman Says:
Gee, if they want to play with guns, why don’t they join the military and really defend the Constitution??
Because they are cowards.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pmSo these gun nuts think Hitler gave great speeches?
Anti-semitism runs deep in the GOP.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pmDo they actually watch President Obama speak? Not much demagogue there as far as I can tell. Hitler wasn’t all that cool and composed.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pm#12 says
I agree that would be the first and best step to take immediately. Stop the rumors and lies. The reich-wing is accusing him of so much sh|t that it’s are to keep up.
NEXT:
Break up the media oligarchy and put the airwaves back into the hands of the people.
Fire the current FCC commisioner.
Reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
Review each local broadcast license with a fine tooth comb for conflict of interest, political influence, interest in serving the BROAD community, etc.
If the people have no voice in the MSM then the people are being herded into gas chamber.
Why do you feel powerless? You have no voice. The government gave it to oligarchs!
April 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI find it ironic that these nut-bags idolize Hitler; a man who would have sent them to the gas chamber for being from the ‘undesirable classes’.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pmI honestly think that they do want to incite an armed doemstic uprising if for no other reason than to throw a wrench into Obama’s efforts. Fear is the only tool they have left to try and save their fading political existance.
Ever notice how much the far right has in common with al-qaeda?…both want armed uprising against U.S. government, both want Obama to fail, both support kidnapping and torturing, both support violence in response to ideological opposition, etc…
April 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pmspearNmagicHelmet Says:
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if they all weren’t so braindead i might actually be concerned.
That’s EXACTLY the reason I AM concerned – if one of the right-wing talking heads tells them to do something about this – they WILL!
April 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pmThey don’t call ‘em the American Taliban for nothing.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
Obama needs to go on teevee and address this now before more paranoid Republicans go on killing rampages.
Unfortunately, those who need to be reached have sworn to never listen to, much less believe, anything President Obama says. They will continue to depend on the batsh!t interpretation of the Reichwing media.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm…
becky and fox “news”
are just begging for one of those people
to pick up a machine gun, point
it at another church full of liberals
and pull the trigger.
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April 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pmlurkmode Says:
So these gun nuts think Hitler gave great speeches?
Anti-semitism runs deep in the GOP.
My thoughts exactly! I mean, I could see if they said something like “Castro gave great speeches, too” because that would at least be in keeping with the Communist meme, and because Castro’s speeches didn’t blame the Cuban people’s troubles on the Jews…but this is just sick and really, really disturbing. What’s most disturbing is that these things sold out in a matter of hours. I hated Bush as much as the next guy but I would never have worn a shirt that compared him to HITLER for crying out loud.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:42 pmamish_edison Says:
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Ever notice how much the far right has in common with al-qaeda?…both want armed uprising against U.S. government, both want Obama to fail, both support kidnapping and torturing, both support violence in response to ideological opposition, etc…
And they are both NUTBAG crazy with RELIGION!!!
April 6th, 2009 at 5:42 pmHow dare that child wear a tab on the right sleeve of his ACU’s? He did not earn that tab.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pmI love the wing nut idea that only wing nuts have guns and understand true American ideals. I deplore the idea that they feel if it comes to a confrontation, they automatically (pun intended) win.
A note to all the Republican/fundamentalist zanies. Don’t think your guns will win. There is a BIG surprise waiting if you even think about trying.
Americans want peace, prosperity and justice. And they will stand up for that.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:44 pmGreat! Socially challanged people rallying around guns. I sure hope the authorities are making sure everyone stays safe. We sure don’t want another dog to go peeing on the floor do we…
April 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pmmuzz Says:
spearNmagicHelmet Says:
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if they all weren’t so braindead i might actually be concerned.
That’s EXACTLY the reason I AM concerned – if one of the right-wing talking heads tells them to do something about this – they WILL!
These nutbags have been around forever. I have no doubt they’re enraged that a Black man is running the country, but I honestly don’t believe that this crowd is capable of running a real insurrection and none of them has enough courage to do so. Shooting up cars and wearing racist t-shirts is as brave as they get.
Of course, it only takes one wetbrain with a gun to kill; I just hope the Secret Service has learned from previous mistakes and that President Obama does not take foolish physical risks.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pmDon’t forget, the gun manufacturers and the gun sellers are the main beneficaries of this hysteria. It always, always goes back to money.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:46 pmRepublicans also have no moral instinct – they must be taught morality by their religion. Hmm… there’s a clear pattern here.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pmdixie blood Says:
amish_edison Says:
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Ever notice how much the far right has in common with al-qaeda?…both want armed uprising against U.S. government, both want Obama to fail, both support kidnapping and torturing, both support violence in response to ideological opposition, etc…
And they are both NUTBAG crazy with RELIGION!!!
I suppose it would be inappropriate to say I love you? Merry me?
April 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm49 deaths in 6 separate mass shootings in about a month. It has become less dangerous to be a U.S. soldier in Iraq than to be a cop or innocent bystander here at home.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pmWe don’t want your guns. We just want your women.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pmBonnie Says:
This is racism in all its glory and shame. They don’t like the fact the President is black. It is very sad. I guess majority doesn’t rule any more.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm———————————————————————-
Maybe the Reich should look at Obama as being half white instead of being a black man in the W.H. and then they won`t hate so much!Then again we are talking about Reich Wing nuts that are loyal to the American Taliban who hate America and Obama because we elected a man who happens to African American.
Hitler gave good speeches too (on picture).
True, but listen to the tenor of the speeches. President Obama gives very cool and collected speeches – calmly presenting the facts.
Hitler whipped the masses into a fury. Rioting in the streets (as some talk radio folks have called on the people to do).
So close your eyes, and think about just the sound of speeches by Obama, Hitler, and Limbaugh. Then go to Sesame street and see which 2 are like each other and which one is different.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:51 pmIt’s sad that the simple minded fall for cheap sales gimmicks like this, and even sadder that they’re all armed.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pmgummble-bee-itch Says: I just hope the Secret Service has learned from previous mistakes and that President Obama does not take foolish physical risks.
That is one thing that almost protects him. If they try to assassinate a black president it truly will be the work of a deranged nutbag. And the deranged nutbag who can get through the Secret Service protection these days doesn’t exist.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:53 pmI seem to remember many many t-shirts, posters and Youtube videos of Bush being compared to Hitler. So let’s not get too excited when the other side does it. The more hypocritical we look, the less people take us serious. We have gained so much credibility over the years, we can not afford to lose it now over something that is so easily proved a problem with both parties.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:56 pmI find that even people I know and find intelligent share some of the craziness of the right’s boogeymen.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:57 pm***
meanwhile michelle bachmann
wants people back home to be
“armed and dangerous“.
_-_
April 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm#53 Maplestreet says,
Or the Religulous, Chirstianista’s sermons from the likes of James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, etc.
Pure hated! Period.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pmIs Ignorance Proud’s sirname? I was unaware…
April 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pmOkay, that’s it! I think we need to get down to business now. It’s now time to start indicting people. This is an atrocity!
April 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pmBut, hey, they feel that they are only following their elected leaders lead. Am I right? When, Bachmann, Palin, Gingrich sell fearmongering to their constituants and riot inciting talk show hosts…ie…Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and last but certainly not least, Billo the Clown do it, the mob thinks it is the true and right thing to do. Now, I myself don’t buy into that, but I know there are rabidily crazy people out there that do. Yeah, we gave GWB a hard time in the last 3 years of his term, but that was only after he lied, cheated and broke the law and let’s not forget alienating the rest of the world’s top powers and made us look like crazy,over self confident blowhards. This president hasn’t been given a chance by these people. THree months is a short time to fix 25 years of bad politics. But we gave Bush a break before and after 9/11 because he was only in the white house for 8 months….EIGHT MONTHS!! And we gave him that break when he told us we would go over to AFGHANISTAN and take care of the people responsible, because that is what we as a nation wanted…retrobution. After we found out he lied and got us into a war in Iraq that most of us STILL don’t understand. You know, it is funny them calling Barack a nazi…LMAO. Aren’t the right wing crazies usually accused of that? Remember the Family Guy episode right before the election last November, where they went back in time to nazi Germany and beat up guards to get their uniforms. Stewie looks down at his nazi uniform and says, hey what’s this…and looks down and on the lapel of the uniform is a McCain/Palin campaign button. So i guess that the communism slur was too perposturous so they went with socialist and now that doesn’t sound dangerous enough….so the people that want all “undesirables” to dissapear and have no rights, anti gay, anti immigrant, anti poor….these are the people that are calling us nazis…TOO PRECIOUS!
OT but cool,
Ed Shultz’ first show is now on MSNBC…Watch…
April 6th, 2009 at 6:02 pmaplbotm,
if you have some pictures of
liberals and progressives getting
together shooting machine guns for
two days, wearing nazi uniforms and
threatening violence against conservatives
we’d sure be interested in seeing them.
if not then you’d better go back to
“concern troll” school because you are
not very good at this.
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pmSo…if Obama is a communist and Obama is Hitler then Hitler is a Communiist which means Stalin was….a Mormon?
April 6th, 2009 at 6:08 pm#66 – 5th Estate,
…nooo..I thought Stalin was a Southern Baptist…
April 6th, 2009 at 6:10 pmUnless it is the third Thursday in Lent when Obama becomes an alien. And Stalin switches places with Castro or is it Mao? And Sun Yat Sen becomes the grand poobah for the Rose Parade.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:11 pmI live in Louisville Ky and I am an unemployed welder I don’t think we really have anything to worry about. Anyone who has ever been to one of these gun shows know that most of the people there are stoners or people who work in places that only pay around 10.00 or 11.00 dollars an hour and have no clue what is going on in the world. They can’t even afford teeth much less a gun I would say 90% don’t like Obama because he is black, but they will keep on voting for Mcconnell because like someone else posted they are braindead inbred morons
April 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pmDon’t forget, these are the same morons that handed an 8-year old an Uzi. With predictable results.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pm@62 darr Says:
I think republicans are also ‘light’ on irony.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pmIts all silliness since all we really need to agree upon is what caliber of machine gun is needed to open the interspatial rift that will….
April 6th, 2009 at 6:13 pmAll of this because the United States had the nerve, the gall, the audacity, to elect a black man to be POTUS. This is all this is about, all one had to do was to watch C-Span the other day when David Brooks was a guest and the gentleman from Georgia said that he and all of his millionaire, good Rushpuppetcan friends, would not be able to take eight years of “that black man.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/03/brooks-obama-fail-stupid/
And this bs: http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/morris-hannity-agree-black-helicopte
Mr. Bush could do whatever he wanted and never was this call to arms even an issue, whenever you disagreed with him from policy to choice of toilet tissue you were accused of treason. So before some of you get on me about why i feel the way I do, talk me off of it and tell me why this feels like pre-OKC all over again.
This is a call to arms by the right, and it is beyond reprehensible, and treasonous to say the very least. And this is acceptable behavior by so-called serious people, and the so-called mainstream media is scared to death to say whats going on.
I’m telling you this bs is going to continue until there is another OKC bombing, and then you will see how quiet the right can get. They will turn it back on the Dem’s and the left and noone will call them out that has the voice to do so, and none of this riot talk will ever be re-broadcast, because the so-called media will be complicit because of their silence.
I have dealt with these types while I was in the Army. Some were my superiors, and some were my Soldiers, and believe me this is the hate that hate produced, brought to you by FAUX News, the right/white wing, the GOP, and all who hate Mr. Obama.
More people are going to have to die before someone sees what’s going on, lets hope that its not one of our loved ones, because the Hannity’s, O’Reilly’s, Beck’s, Limbaugh’s, Boehner’s, Bachmann’s, etc. are pretty much secure in the fact that they are not targets.
RIP
April 6th, 2009 at 6:14 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
#67 dixie blood…
Of course! Thanks for setting me straight!
So that would make Ted Haggard…a Wiccan?
April 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pmyeah you think thats bad here in Texas they want to allow guns in workers cars in company parking lots and again with guns at school mean while minority schools are still not funded and they are wonsering why minority enrollment at major Texas universities hasnt improved while our state gov focuses on helping bring back the old west of the 1840s and the range wars its so stupid i cant even begain to imagine they spend a lot of time thinking about it beacuse it makes my head hurt to try to find a justification fo this crap
April 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pmI mean an AK-47 is not for Deer hunting unless the deer has a bullet proof vest and a gun it can fire back at you with
So let me get this right. Guns you don’t need are a right, healthcare you need not so much… Is that how it works? Frickin’ oddballs…
April 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pmThese are also the same people who are outraged that Notre Dame invited the President of the United States to speak.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pmThey steal their guns. It’s hard to steal some real teeth.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pm@73 Tired Of Fighting Says:
That’s part of it for some, but remember they started acting irrational soon after Bush took the throne.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:18 pm#76 dbadass Says:
I wish I could blast a cap in my a$$ to loose weight!!
April 6th, 2009 at 6:20 pmWhen did Fascism take shape?
In the latter part of the Great Depression, most notably in Italy, Spain and Germany.
It;s a bit more complicated than that of course, but….
April 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pmLittle pleasures for little minds.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pmThis is the kind of Incendiary Rhetoric that lead to Tim McVeigh and Oklahoma City.
This deadly act of Domestic Terrorism was Supposed to be a blow against Bill Clinton’s Presidency and A Boom to the Militia Movement.
So… Right wingers …how’d that work out for you???
April 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pmDr.
You’re right. Im just saying why would we ever want to be compared to that. They were made insignificant because of all the screeching they did. We don’t want to make the same mistake.
Joe,
Be quiet, Iam just being the voice of reason. And stop the troll crap. It’s the truth. You are going to be one of those that makes this success insignificant.
g8rlane.blogspot.com
http://www.colesgazette.com
thepeoplescube.com
http://www.bant-shirts.com
broadwaycarl.blogspot.com
http://www.history.ucsb.edu
rogersparkbench.blogspot.com
There are pages and pages of them. And if you think that they are going to make the distinction between the two you are wrong.
April 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pmLuis Chapulin M Says:
Don’t forget, these are the same morons that handed an 8-year old an Uzi. With predictable results.
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thanks for the reminder, it’s important to remember.
the best they can say for themselves is that it could
have been worse. from the post:
Bob Greenleaf, a former executive board member and long-time member of the Sportsman’s Club said,
“It’s very difficult to control,” said Greenleaf, who did not attend the gun expo and said it was the club’s first death. “We’re lucky the gun went up instead of sideways. If it went sideways, we might have had 10 dead people.”
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April 6th, 2009 at 6:25 pmLet’s not forget that they tried it here too.
BBC has an interesting radio clip here;
April 6th, 2009 at 6:26 pmThe Whitehouse Coup.
aplbotm,
let’s see, a loony toon right wing blog, a t-shirt web site and
page from the ucsb history department’s course catalog?
and that proves what?
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well it does prove that when
it comes to being a concern
troll you’re terrible. you should
talk to backup. maybe he could
give you some lessons.
:
April 6th, 2009 at 6:37 pm***
sorry i missed the url
for angela lansbury in “blithe spirit”.
now that’s going to stop the whole
progressive movement dead in it’s tracks,
isn’t it?
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 6:43 pmtorture she wrote?
April 6th, 2009 at 6:49 pmMark these words. Someone is going to get targeted by these GOP nutjobs. Palin and McCain egged them on and now they are all ‘juiced up’ and ready to engage the enemy – our elected government and YOU. All of this violence must be placed at the feet of those encouraging it: your modern GOP. It seems the GOP is more nutty now that they are a smallish cult – rather than a legitimate political party.
And remember to talk in code. Who can make this stuff up?
April 6th, 2009 at 6:51 pmI have been to these backwater gun show, there is a huge amount of anti-obama sentiment and tons tons on NAZI Paraphernalia, from Nazi flags and uniforms to Nazi guns, knives etc….
I asked someone about it and they said the was “WWII memorabilia” I asked if they had any Japanese memorabilia then I got “that look” and promptly left and took the long way home too….
April 6th, 2009 at 6:56 pmI’m just so relieved that we finally have someone in the White House who’s going to put an end to this gun ownership madness. I know President Obama has to first finish the plan to put millions more on unemployment so they will have no choice but to accept the Government take over of the health care system and the banking and auto industries (CONTROL THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION!!!), but hopefully once that phase is finished we can start rounding up these gun nuts and put them behind bars as the enemies of the State that they truly are!! R.I.P. 2nd Amendment!! Long live Progress!!
April 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pmpastcaring…. I knew about that, but I’ll check out the video.
In the UK Oswald Mosley copied Hitler very closely, and there were sympathizers in upper classes also
April 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pmThe UK still has the BNP of course—thankfully the UK also has significant gun control and nothing like the hate radio of the US–or FOXNews.
ahhh yes the Republican base….rest in peace or as near to it as you can manage in your twisted paranoid batshit crazy world!
April 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pmCharles Manson called, he likes your style!
April 6th, 2009 at 7:02 pmHi barrysoetoro
You talk silly…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:03 pm***
strat,
in the theatre there’s rule know as chekov’s gun:
“If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired.”
and i’m reminded of the famous handbill that
appeared in dallas two days before president
kennedy was assassinated.
***
fox news and it’s allies are working
hard to make it happen.
again.
:
April 6th, 2009 at 7:03 pmThis is too much! It’s time for law enforcement to get involved. I have a really bad feeling about these crazies.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:04 pmIt’s actually about a 28 minute audio clip. You may need real player if your default doesn’t work.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:04 pm***
barrysoetoro,
does your cell window
have a nice view?
::
April 6th, 2009 at 7:06 pmAnd when one of the rightwingnut crazies goes out and harms/kills someone, Beck needs to receive a visit from the FBI for encouraging this kind of shyte on his show. Showing the Nazis marching, etc.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:07 pmwhy can’t poetic justice ever be served by one of these assclowns opening fire with an assault rifle at a gun show?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:11 pmpastcaring ceratopogonidae Says:
lurkmode Says:
So these gun nuts think Hitler gave great speeches?
Anti-semitism runs deep in the GOP.
I find it ironic that these nut-bags idolize Hitler; a man who would have sent them to the gas chamber for being from the ‘undesirable classes’.
i didn’t get that they were idolizing hitler with that shirt…
just the opposite actually… they hate obama as much as hitler should be hated…
though i know the NEOnazi skinheadss uphold the hitler, i doubt seriously any of them would wear an image of obama as such…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:14 pmOh, I’m sorry. I thought this was a forum for real Progressives. I guess this is just another group of posers pretending to be Progressive to impress some coed they want to hook-up with. My bad.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:14 pmno problem, see ya later. Oh about this posers thing…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:15 pmThere are plenty of websites that compare Bush to Hitler. Plus, you boy Kieth O compared him the Hitler. So toughen up people.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pmIs jeff only 8 years old?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:20 pmbarrysoetoro Says:
Oh, I’m sorry. I thought this was a forum for real Progressives. I guess this is just another group of posers pretending to be Progressive to impress some coed they want to hook-up with. My bad.
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don’t leave, stay
and watch a video.
;<0
put a little fun
in your life.
…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:20 pmbarry,
April 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pmis there a point to your rambling other than to demonstrate the utter hysteria those on the right have worked themselves in to?
Dass, you don’t like the truth.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pmWhich truth is that?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:23 pmjeff2001
April 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pmi am sure you’ll be able to provide reams of links of sites dedicated to comparing 43 to hitler, correct?
The point is every president will have “NUTS”. Who compare him to Hitler.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pmHi barrysoetoro:
Maybe you would like the company of a dragonfly?
Did you know dragonflies can multitask, can you?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:24 pmJust google Bush/hitler and you will see.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pmjsutah Says:
I have been to these backwater gun show, there is a huge amount of anti-obama sentiment and tons tons on NAZI Paraphernalia, from Nazi flags and uniforms to Nazi guns, knives etc….
then again…
it’s so confusing…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pmbarrysoetoro Says: = bushie with budding sense of cynicism.
Next he can work on irony.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pmjeff2001 Says:
There are plenty of websites that compare Bush to Hitler. Plus, you boy Kieth O compared him the Hitler. So toughen up people.
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google it you get this.
paste “olbermann compares bush to hitler”
in the search field at youtube and you get this.
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jeff,
when the evidence is against
you it’s time for you jeff, to stop lying.
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good luck.
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pmi find it ironic that those who get their panties in a wad over the second amendment showed absolutely no anger over the past 8 years when the fourth was gutted (illegal wiretapping of united states citizens before 9-11 even occurred) followed by the first (free speech zones).
April 6th, 2009 at 7:28 pmBozo The Neocootiebug Says:
Exactly.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:29 pmIm not saying it right. These morons need a life. But, people have a right to hate.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:29 pmBush/Hitler google it
April 6th, 2009 at 7:31 pmjeff2001 Says:
Dass, you don’t like the truth.
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jeff, you can’t handle the truth!
**
(sorry son, you walked right into that one.)
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 7:31 pmHello Jeff two-oh-oh-one, want to have some fun?
Do you have a brother named Hal?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:31 pmNope, sorry joe cantwell, but I don’t see the point of wasting anymore time here. Unlike you and Mr. dbadass, I believe Progressivism is more than just putting on a t-shirt and posting pithy little comments on a blog. If people like you were the Progressive movement, capitalism would have absolutely nothing to worry about.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:31 pmjeff,
April 6th, 2009 at 7:32 pmdoes this “right to hate” also include “the right to lay in wait wearing a kevlar vest with an assault rifle to moew down some cops”? and if so, exactly which amendment is that?
barrysoetoro,
April 6th, 2009 at 7:32 pmso you were against the bank bailout i assume?
jeff2001 Says:
Im not saying it right. These morons need a life. But, people have a right to hate.
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jeff, sit down son.
just because it’s a right,
it doesn’t mean you have
to do it every single day.
-_-
capice?
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April 6th, 2009 at 7:32 pmbarrysoetoro
April 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pmGood luck with that silly bs
barrysoetoro Says:
Nope, sorry joe cantwell, but I don’t see the point of wasting anymore time here. Unlike you and Mr. dbadass, I believe Progressivism is more than just putting on a t-shirt and posting pithy little comments on a blog. If people like you were the Progressive movement, capitalism would have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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mom kicking you off
the keyboard again?
i guess it’s tough living
at home. good luck.
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pmChimpy was compared to Hitler because he acted like Hitler and drove our country to the brink of ruin. President Obama is compared to Hitler because Reichwhiners can’t find much on which to base a legitimate complaint. Despite choices we may disagree with, Obama has restored honor and reason to the White House and is making hard decisions based on real-world events.
After all, it’s not like the GOoPers actually bother to read legislation or listen to what our President has to say. Instead we have a bunch of freaks like Becky and Crazy Shelly, whipping a bunch of intellectual dwarfs into a frenzy over their paranoid delusions.
Listen to any of the far-right radicals. They start most every sentence with, “I’m afraid”, then they pull something from a 50 year old work of fiction, or the voices in their heads, and convince the inbred crowd that they should be afraid too.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:37 pmI only saw part of it, but David Shuster gave a smackdown to a right wing fear-mongering, gun-loving fool today.
The rightwingers continue to say Obama will take away guns when that is clearly not his intention. Like many of us, he doesn’t see a need for AK-47 on the streets of the cities.
If people think they need the most sophisticated automatic weapons for protection from a government they believe will oppress them, they are not thinking clearly — the government has tanks and myriad weapons at their disposal.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:37 pmOTOH, it is (Bachman’s) “armed and dangerous” people who pose a real threat to peace and security in the neighborhoods.
ps-
oh yeah,
long live progressivism!
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 7:37 pmjeff2001 Says:
Im not saying it right. These morons need a life. But, people have a right to hate.
Spoken like a true Nazi. Here’s a newsflash: We executed the Nazis we caught for the preservation of civilization.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:40 pmI couldn’t have said it any better, Marie.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:41 pmoh my… shuster is talking to some freak about his belief that obama wants to take guns away… alan gottlieb…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:41 pmthose glasses – haven’t seen those since, what, 80s…
which is where most of the wingers are stuck… if not the 50s…
Nazi,,,right,,ok every president has got to put up with this stuff.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pmI think they’re stuck in the 50s, katydid. The 1350s.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:43 pm‘course, if you close your eyes and listen, it could be daffy duck…
oh, i’m sorry…
but it does make it easier…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:43 pmI’ve read the Constitution and all it’s Amendments. I don’t recall reading that hate is a right.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pmIf by “bailout” you mean newspeak for “nationalization”, then no, I am not against the bank “bailout”
April 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pmOh my! Against all odds, the stupid trolls have gotten more ignorant. “Nationalism”, and rabid nationalism at that, is exactly what the Reichwing freaks are peddling.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:46 pmjeff2001 Says:
“Nazi,,,right,,ok every president has got to put up with this stuff.”
interestingly enough it’s coming from the crowd who was pushing the motto “you must respect the president” right up until 80 days ago. hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
April 6th, 2009 at 7:46 pmbarrysoetoro Says:
If by “bailout” you mean newspeak for “nationalization”, then no, I am not against the bank “bailout”
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barrysoetoro Says:
Nope, sorry joe cantwell, but I don’t see the point of wasting anymore time here. Unlike you and Mr. dbadass, I believe Progressivism is more than just putting on a t-shirt and posting pithy little comments on a blog. If people like you were the Progressive movement, capitalism would have absolutely nothing to worry about.
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hi bar,
back to waste more time?
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 7:47 pmI like how David Schuster gave Alan Gottlieb (Second Amendment Foundation) the slap down for the LIE they’ve been throwing around about Obama taking our guns away! Gottlieb could not offer any facts to backup what he was saying! Schuster had Gottlieb all tripped up! LOL Way to go Schuster! Make them accountable for what they say!
April 6th, 2009 at 7:48 pmLast one, I promise.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:48 pmmarie – i think i just saw that segment…
gottlieb, 2nd amendment something group…
a real noob.
yes, pete, my own personal experience with wingers puts them in the 50s column… aaah, the good ol’ days…
April 6th, 2009 at 7:48 pmThese NRA, RepubliCon gun freaks will only bring more hate, violence, and death to America. The hatemongers should be taken off the air or the broadcasters should lose their license. Gun shows should be strictly regulated. Were is the FCC, ATF, and other agencies tasked with controlling this problem?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:49 pmjeff2001 Says:
Nazi,,,right,,ok every president has got to put up with this stuff.
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oh yeah,
drove millard fillmore crazy
when some smart a$$ called him
a nazi.
:\
check out the picture,
does he look like a nazi to you?
:0
April 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pmAlan Gottlieb <——–lispy lil thing would need a “sport utility weapon” to defend his sorry ass in a fight.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pmbarrysoetoro- you going to answer any of the questions i posted directly to you or are you just another smack talking punk?
April 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pmSeriously. Liberals need to get a backbone and quit whining and actually step back take a deep brief and use the mind god gave them and look at this entire situation and research for themselves what is happening around them. Because I am simply amazed that anyone could be this clueless as to what the problem is. But one thing I do know. Is that when it is all said and done many will wish that they would of stopped and took the time to look past what some may want you to see, and SEE what is actually there. I am sure in the back of some individuals minds they have a nagging feeling that more is going on. But it is easier to overlook it because, well, some people like living in a false reality.
For instance, have you read the DOJ’s new proposal on FISA? Or the bill introduced in regards to shutting down the Internet traffic in case of an attack? Or the bill passed taking away the pilots ability to carry concealed weapons that came about after the 9/11 attacks? Or releasing detainee’s here and providing them with welfare and a place to live on our dime?
Or better yet, my favorite since I am in the military, is the paying for insurance narrative for vets injuries suffered downrange. Oh, they took that off the table you say, they said so didn’t they, how could I forget. NOT.Ya’ll better wake up because things are in no way shape or form what you think they are. Of course YOU think everything is just peachy because you don’t question anything this administration does. Therefore you have no idea what it is like for those who do. Yes, there is more going on and if people who complained about how the media played up to the bush admin would realize the play up to anyone in power with money. You would see that they are doing the exact same thing.
Just this time, it’s with someone who you all adore. I would rather have eight more years of Bush than have this administration for another month. I could care less about “party affiliation”. Other than Secretary of State Clinton, Gillibrand and Jackson and not the race baiting fool, Sheila, the rest are garbage. On both sides of the aisle. Seriously, has it ever, I mean EVER crossed your mind why not one Democratic party member from the Senate, not a pundit or blogger, but a elected Democrat got up and went on attack against any of the things that republican chic that stated she felt as if she was a *foreign* correspondent behind enemy lines?
You have never even thought to ask why our Department of Justice has no intention whatsoever of prosecuting anyone elected officials for corruption but they just determine something was *wrong* and it’s water under the bridge?
I mean, everyone is stating that the *right wing* is inciting violence and that it’s the *rights* fault and how bad it is. So why is it that none of the Dems haven’t jumped on the bandwagon, elected Dems, as a talking point to show how *far* and *out of touch* the Republicans are? Why is it simply in the blogs? You mean to tell me that with a majority AND a Democratic president they are unable to win the message war with the party who everyone claims daily is at fault?
I know everyone wants *change* but get serious. Three cops responding to a domestic violence call from a individual with prior history of domestic violence calls from that location. It pays to discover by the way. Shoots three cops, tells said cops while in custody that he did it not because he a dead beat loser for beating up a woman but because he heard on the radio that Obama was sending people to his house to take away his guns? Are you serious?
Now what if one of the Republicans you hate played up to this and stated to ask this individual what day he heard this on the radio and how did he become the lucky individual to be the first to get there guns confiscated? Now, I don’t know if Becks show is on regular radio or not. Even more, what I find really amazing is that based on his words, if he actually said them, how is it that his words automatically makes him a Republican? Is he registered to vote? And why would the police even ask him about party affiliation in regards to responding to a domestic violence call?
But it’s hard to imagine this guy was thinking someone was coming for his guns when he just got finished putting the beatdown on his significant other and they called 911. Plus, I don’t agree with NONE of you on this thread or on the beliefs those have on this administration. I am a registered Democrat but that carries exactly ZERO weight with anything plus I don’t do group think. Group think gave us Iraq and a whole lot of worthless elected officials.
Sorry. You guys won’t get change until YOU change how YOU do business. Like hold your reps accountable for there actions. I know how the house and senate works therefore it would be foolish to think they are innocent of wrong doing in the past administration. If they felt so *strongly* about that constitution we are dying for and defending. Why did it take them NOW to all of a sudden *fight for it*? Or my favorite, to all of a sudden remember Gitmo existed? Puhleeze.
These are the people who walked lock step and voted for FISA. Yeah, that little thing people so love to forget they supported. Pathetic. You might want to start asking your Reps why if everything coming from the *right* side of the aisle is so far fetched, delusional and bogus. Why are they not calling them out on it, live. Because you know what they say. Silence is agreement.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:52 pmbarrysoetoro Says:
Last one, I promise.
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ok dude because
those dinner dishes
aren’t gonna wash themselves
you know.
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April 6th, 2009 at 7:52 pmI’ve been giving myself a brief refresher on the Constitution. There’s nothing I can find about a “right to hate”. I think our stupid troll was referencing the Old Testament or Mein Kompf.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:53 pmsoldier,
i gave up on paragraph two.
what’s you’re point?
thank you.
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April 6th, 2009 at 7:55 pmRight Wingers want to go back to the “good old days” of the 1800’s.
April 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pmSpeaking of Right Wingers…has anybody checked to see if Crystal Meth use is on the rise ?
you’re = your.
sorry!
>>>
April 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pmOk joe cantwell, I know I lied, but since some people apparently can’t read (I’m looking at you Bozo), I’m breaking my promise. Bozo, I answered your question. Try reading before you spout off, blowhard. And calling me “conservative”, Dr. Moth Matt, is the trolliest trolling I’ve ever seen.
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pm“In a New York Times op-ed this weekend, Charles Blow reported that such rhetoric ‘has helped fuel the panic buying of firearms.’”
…The Walton Family wishes to thank you for your unhinged paranoia, and hopes that you’ll remember WalMart for all your fear-fueled shopping…
April 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pmYou might want to start asking your Reps why if everything coming from the *right* side of the aisle is so far fetched, delusional and bogus. Why are they not calling them out on it, live. Because you know what they say. Silence is agreement.
My rep is a wingnut. Any more advice?
April 6th, 2009 at 8:03 pmbarrysoetoro Says:
Ok joe cantwell, I know I lied, but since some people apparently can’t read (I’m looking at you Bozo), I’m breaking my promise. Bozo, I answered your question. Try reading before you spout off, blowhard. And calling me “conservative”, Dr. Moth Matt, is the trolliest trolling I’ve ever seen.
:)
res ipsa loquiter,
bozo.
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 8:04 pmSoldier, if that is your real name, thanks for serving but I have no idea what you’re trying to say or why you posted it on this thread. If your contention is that we, as a country, need to demand accountability from our government? Count me in. If you’re defending the Reichwhiner’s attempt to foment a Holy war against “the Left”? You’re one sick puppy.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:07 pmWhere’s the investigative reporting on the political leanings of the latest crop of murder-suicides happening on almost a weekly basis? We already have one confirmed wing nut that flipped out and stormed the civic center inducting new citizens. My educated guess is that they all had some sort of wing nuttery in their leanings.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:10 pmI know how the house and senate works therefore it would be foolish to think they are innocent of wrong doing in the past administration. If they felt so *strongly* about that constitution we are dying for and defending. Why did it take them NOW to all of a sudden *fight for it*? Or my favorite, to all of a sudden remember Gitmo existed? Puhleeze.
Two words:
Signing statements.
Anything congress might have mandated for Gitmo could have been undone simply by the issuance of a presidential signing statement, which would nullify any change congress might have attempted to make by legislation.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:11 pmsoldier, “So why is it that none of the Dems haven’t jumped on the bandwagon, elected Dems, as a talking point to show how *far* and *out of touch* the Republicans are?”
President Barack Obama, “You can’t get things done listening to Rush Limbaugh.”
That’s just one point destroyed, but until you plainly state what it is you’re saying, we can only surmise.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pmMaking a buck off of fear-monerging. What else is new? It’s as old as time. Sick, sick, sick, sick, sick, *sigh*
Faire
April 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pmsoldier4hillary, you really should stop listing to your daddy Rush and your uncle Cheney and your twisted disturbing family the GOP. They really got you brainwashed in their garbage and their malaise.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:30 pmGreat commercial idea – just quote wingnuts the entire 30 seconds. Web and You Tube ones could go on and on and on. At the end they should ask, what kind of people would put up with these kind of people? Maybe the otherwise sensible republicans would wake up to their reponsibility in stopping the madness.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
All the old-timer Republicans I work with are terrified. Terrified of communism, terrified Obama will abandon Israel, terrified Obama will take their guns.
Obama needs to go on teevee and address this now before more paranoid Republicans go on killing rampages.
Before more go on a killing spree? You mean more than have already done it.
I fear for this country. We may be entering another civil war, this time between two political parties. We progressives trying to protect our country and the conservatives trying to kill us all so that they can wrest control of the government back into their hands.
This is all very scary.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:22 pmI can’t help but wonder; is all the bat scat from the Reichwhiners a response to Obama’s warm reception abroad and high approval at home? I think the truth, that Obama is popular and capable, is driving them “around the bend”.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pmLove how the liberals all use the word “troll”. Obama does give great speeches like Hitler.
Oh and all you liberals don’t have any problem with calling Bush Hitler. What now, can’t take it??
Truth is, Obama is worse. I hope we survive the next four years.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:28 pmReagan gave great speeches, too…
Isn’t that why the right wing loved him so much?
What’s the point they are trying to make by ridiculing someone’s ability to speak coherently and intelligently? My first guess would be jealousy, because they lack the ability to speak well. But I would be wrong.
The truth is that the right wing has learned to hone its “message” (whatever concept that may idea) to tap into people’s emotions first. When people get their emotions riled up, they tend to stop thinking rationally. (Hence, the incidents of “mob mentality”.) The right wing does not want people to think about these issues rationally, because if people do that, the right wing will lose.
And now that they’re getting people fired up about myths that Obama wants to take away their guns (completely false, BTW), the situation has now become very dangerous.
You can hate people if you want to, but you can’t act out on that hate. If you are angry (which you have both the right and the civic duty to be), you can channel that anger into peaceful forms of good old fashioned First Amendment exercises (such as speaking out, writing to your media, peaceably assembling – with the emphasis on ‘peaceably’, petitioning your government, or even praying).
Learn to recognize when the right wing is appealing to emotion instead of reason. That is when they can be most dangerous.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pmShow me where I ever typed troll
April 6th, 2009 at 9:33 pmShow me where I called Bush Hitler
Show me how Obama is worse
If you can’t do these thing can you do me a solid and STFU?
Oh and can you not say that I typed troll in 176?
April 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pmThanks-
i think plunger was warning about those such as soldier on the ‘ignore’ thread…
maybe?
you really should read it, joe… just for the experience…
bad grammar and all…
and
barfly Says:
…The Walton Family wishes to thank you for your unhinged paranoia, and hopes that you’ll remember WalMart for all your fear-fueled shopping…
not enough that they got their estate tax thing fixed…
April 6th, 2009 at 9:44 pmWhy should capitalism have anything to fear from Progressives?
Methinks our “progressive” friend is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pmI find endless amusement in the fact that, as soon as someone says “troll”, a bunch of Reichwhiners show up to claim the name.
Here’s a newsflash: Confident, intelligent, people usually just ignore insults. Moronic trolls, on the other hand, own them.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pmFrightening. In a few months or years, we’ll look back on these times and wonder what we could have done to prevent the rise this “insurgency.” Mark my words, THIS internal violence will be the “problem of the times” before long.
Ironic that the party which ran on a platform of keeping America safe looks likely to become the (domestic) terrorists soon themselves.
April 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pmMajjohnc Says:
maj & john, what liberal/progressive
two day machine gun show where they
had t-shirts comparing bush to hitler
and they had kids wearing nazi hats
are you two “trolls” talking about?
because i googled “liberal progressive nazi
gun show” and this is what i got. what did
you get?
:|
good luck.
:)
April 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pmHello Majjohnc:
Does your name refer to Major John C?
The problem I have with the Obama/Hitler reference is that I just read that some call Obama the anti-christ while others say he’s the One. Could it be possible he’s all in one?
Were you / are you in the army?
April 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pmThere is no basis for this fear other than racism.
Pure and simple.
April 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pmmy thought too, zooey…
the rabidness is the tell.
April 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pmI don’t know whether to laugh or cry or scream…..I feel like I’m living in the twilight zone….What has president Obama done or said in the little over TWO MONTHS he’s been president to cause this level of hysteria and insanity???….Today glenn beck had a background of nazi soldiers marching with their swastika flags waving, saying that we’ve seen this before. Seen WHAT before???…I’m just getting really, REALLY tired of it all. Day after day after day it just never ends with these psychotic right-wing freaks and their brain-dead followers.
April 6th, 2009 at 11:44 pmim scared too. and my first job was at a gun range!
The point they seem to miss is the second amendment was written as the ultimate check/balance in the whole republic concept. Even if it is only symbolic, it works, period.
It wasn’t written so these goofballs can sit on their roof in a lawn chair, drink beer, and use their rifle to swat flies. It’s unfortunate the amount of gun advocates that probably ought not to own a gun. I suspect an ad push by the industry.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:10 amIf the Republicans had a candidate named Saddam Pol Pot it would go right over their heads.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:11 amWhen the Right Wingers form a circular firing squad it won’t be a metaphor. And Obama is about as Socialist as Dwight Eisenhower.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:43 amI have been a life long gun owner and generally support efforts to keep gun owners free of government restriction which are just feel good remedies and accomplish nothing.
However, in the last few months, I have seen this anti-Obama insanity raised to such a level by Second Amendment people that it scares me that people can have that twisted a view of the government. Further, what really bothers me is to watch the NRA encourage this “revolution” and right wing sky is falling rhetoric. I have been a member of the NRA in the past, but they seem to have crawled out on a ledge with the nut cases and are imagining all sorts of ills which have no basis in fact. It isn’t a wonder that we have these idiots killing people and then proclaiming that they are worried that Obama is going to take away their gun rights.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:43 amI don’t like hearing people who are anti-Second Amendment and know absolutely nothing about guns spouting untruths about guns and gun owners. Likewise, I am a bit discouraged to see the NRA sit idly by while these nut cases who spend their days on Nazi propaganda forums like “Stormfront.org” screaming because they don’t want anyone to take away their ability to own semi-automatic assault weapon clones and ammunition. That is totally nuts. I’d give a guy who wants to target shoot or varmit shoot with a AK-47 clone, but basically, my interest in guns is for hunting deer, etc., and I know you don’t need a bullet proof vest and AK-47 to hunt deer.
If anybody comes around to get your guns, it will be a Right Wing extremist with a little too much power.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:46 amJeffie2001, I have compared George Bush and his fascist neocon cabal to Hitler.
With good sound logical reasons to do so.
You and your fellow idiots seem to be comparing Obama to Hitler solely on the grounds that he “gives good speeches”…
What else you got, moron??
And Proud? We ridculed that drunken, nose-picking, babbling frat boy Chimpy for very good reasons as well. You, on the other hand – you got NUTTIN’.
Why don’t you both go hide under your beds? After all, Obama is the ANTI-CHRIST – and he is going to rip your beating hearts out of your puny, hairless chests and eat them.
*eyeroll*
Wussies.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:48 amBush gave terrible speeches, but it was his thugs, Blackwater, that took the guns of private citizens trying to protect their home after Katrina. The NRA could care less about protecting the rights of gun owners. They have a political agenda and find the gun issue works to gather revenue and to motivate uninformed people.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:53 amThese Right Wingers fear anybody who is educated.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:55 amProud Says:
You people spent 8 years bashing and ridiculing Pres Bush. So sorry we refuse to bow down to your dear leader. Racism has nothing to do with it. If you weren’t aware obama is only half black and was raised by his white grandparents. So why do people keep raising the specter of racism? He has a socialist agenda, we disagree that is the American way.
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is that your pledge not
to shoot people because
you’re not getting your way?
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is it?
;|
April 7th, 2009 at 1:04 amPeople really need to elevate this thinking to a level higher than shooting salvos of ad hominens at each other about Bush versus Obama. One of the things which make this country great is that those who disagree have agreed to disagree. Valid political argument with civility is the key to solving problems. This move into “he said, she said” is pointless and solves nothing. I voted for Obama and realized when I did so that not everything he did would make me estatic, but I felt the good would outweight the bad. Likewise, I think President Bush did the best job he could as President and tried to handle himself honorably. They just had different approaches to the same problems. This country has existed for over two hundred years with politicians who didn’t see eye to eye on a lot of matters. What I think the glue was is a personal decision by them to honor someone else’s opinion as being as valid to them as ours is to us.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:17 amSpeaking only for myself, I spent 5 years bashing Chimpy.
Once I realized he lied to launch an illegal invasion? The gloves came off.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:21 am.
Great, All America needs is more shooting sprees spurned on by extremism.
.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:08 am.
#197 v22forever said:
#1) Just how did Obama lie about the WMD’s in Iraq?
#2) Just how did Obama lie about warrants to wiretap Americans?
#3) Just how did Obama sign the MCA of 2006?
#4) Just how did Obama authorize TORTURE?
#5) Need I go on as to how Obama didn’t make the same lame @ss decisions to subvert the Constitution of the USA as George W. Bush did?
#6) Name the honor to committing US Service members to their deaths over greedy a lie?
#7) Name the honor behind usurping the Constitution of the USA?
#8) Name the redeeming quality that such honor can be boasted about concerning TORTURE?
#9) Apologist much?
#10) How is creating a partisan DOJ, respectable?
#11) Where’s the honor in the involvement of outing a covert CIA agent?
#12) “HAD different approaches”? Obama’s a has been already?
A) George W. Bush spent 8 years screwing up the core principles of America. Principles that were Her foundation.
B) Barack H. Obama has spent less than 90 days in that same Office. There can be no comparison as he’s attempting to right America back to those core Principles.
Your lame attempt to compare a mustard seed to a jar of mustard is ridiculous, at best!
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April 7th, 2009 at 2:21 amI believe in the 1st Amendment as anyone in this country and I exercise those rights frequently. But? Glenn Beck and FAUX MUST BE SILENCED!!!
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/glenn-beck-blames-crooksandliars-and-ko
April 7th, 2009 at 2:27 am.
#189 Proud Says:
Need I go on?
Racist much?
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April 7th, 2009 at 2:28 amBoth Obama and Eric Holder have said they want to re-enact the assault weapons ban, which is directly driving weapons sales. AR-15’s are back-ordered for months. And good luck trying to find ammo at a reasonable price.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:34 am.
#174 Majjohnc Says:
Name one war Obama started…
Name one TORTURE program Obama authorized…
Name one warrantless spying program Obama authorized…
Name one covert CIA agent Obama’s been involved in outing…
… I thought so.
Because I can name three Herr Bush started!
Because I can name three Herr Bush authorized!
Because I can name several warrantless programs Herr bush started!
Because I can name one agent too many Herr Bush/Co is linked to.
… So, what you got?
Book banning Palin?
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April 7th, 2009 at 2:39 am.
So this is how the NRA supports the President of the USA during a time of war?
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April 7th, 2009 at 2:42 amI believe in the 1st Amendment as much as anyone in this country and I exercise those rights frequently. But? Glenn Beck and FAUX MUST BE SILENCED!!!
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/glenn-beck-blames-crooksandliars-and-ko
April 7th, 2009 at 2:43 amSorry for the double post. No I’m not. We need to thwart FAUX/Beck/Reichwhiners.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:45 amBilbo @172,
April 7th, 2009 at 2:48 amI watched Hotel Rwanda the other night.
Cockroaches are bugs too…
… And the MSM are the RTLM.
Both President Obama and Eric Holder have backed off a renewal of the ban on “assault weapons”. I think they’re wrong.
Legally purchased “assault weapons” are being used to murder our fellow Americans in record numbers. It’s long past time to try and stop the carnage.
If you need a 20 round clip to feel like a man? Grow a dick!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:54 amBarack Obama will diligently address gun issues.
There is no need to panic over the matter.
Submitted by Andrew Yu-Jen Wang, J.D. Candidate
April 7th, 2009 at 3:00 amB.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
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Dear Shillary @153…
The “YOU GUYS” McSpewage doesn’t float in these waters.
And to address your diatribe, much of it engrosses your ignorance about T.P. and other Liberal sites, in case you haven’t noticed…
… er, obviously haven’t noticed, is that much of the liberal left has been quite upset with the “beltway” and most of the left has participated in and coordinated protests and sit-ins. Your eliquint rant is proof enough that it is you who’ve been disengaged and are holding fast to you sense of projection.
Ever consider that it has been you who’ve been had and you’re just coming to figure it out? Please, don’t blame the liberals in America for what ills America when you can join their causes and make some “change” for a change, K?
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April 7th, 2009 at 3:03 amPete @209,
April 7th, 2009 at 3:05 amSo how much pheasant is eatable when shot with an AK-47, anyway?
If people don’t learn from their or their ancestors mistakes they are doomed to repeat them. This is not a cliche. People kill people not the guns they buy, and that not just retoric. All of the trash that I read is just as scary as any person going out to buy a weapon with no idea what to do with it, after they have purchased it. We are seeing things unfolding in our time, that no one that works for a living could have ever forseen. Self protection and preservation are two of the strongest emotions that any human being can feel. Most of the time far out weighing love or hate. I would suggest that before any restriction on gun ownership in this country be considered all of the ramifications had better be considered. Its not just guns nuts who own weapons or are willing to fight to keep them. Anyone who has never served this country by putting on one of her military’s uniforms should be very careful about spouting some of the trash I’ve read here. At the point in time this country tears its self apart because we can’t figure out how to live together. Which unfortunately beleive is happening today, had better be prepared to fight for there own existence. I will be, because I will protect my family against any who would do them harm. Can you say the same, if you can’t I feel sorry for you. For you will be some of the first to fall.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:05 amto pete@209
more pheasant is etable than shot with a shotgun at close range, count on it, its the person down range I would worry about
April 7th, 2009 at 3:08 amNeither Obama nor Holder have said they don’t want an assault weapons ban. They simply haven’t proposed it yet. Which is why gun sales are through the roof.
I am indeed compensating because I own a black rifle with 30 round mags. My dick can’t kill at 100 meters, so I compensate with a rifle.
Obama is clearly irresponsible; he is stirring up fears that the citizen’s second amendment rights will be abridged, which fuels panic and fear in the public, with predictable results. (Hey, if Glenn Beck can be held responsible for deaths by pointing out that Obama wants to re-enact the assault weapons ban, shouldn’t _Obama_ be held responsible for pointing out that Obama wants to re-eneact the assault weapons ban?)
April 7th, 2009 at 3:10 amBecky is stirring up unwarranted fear. He’s insane.
If you need a 30 round clip to survive in an ordered society? You’re an insane idiot.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:22 amWeapons don’t kill people. People with military weapons rack up major body counts. All too often those who make up the body counts are innocent, unarmed, civilians.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:25 amWell said blofeld.
I have never seen so many sheep and have never seen a mob of sheep with torches.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:28 amI’ve had my AR and .45 ACP since I was old enough to buy them.
I also own a fire extinguisher. I hope I never NEED that either.
You Obama people scare me.
I can hear their screams…. Baaaaaaaaaaa
“Late last month, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Obama administration would be seeking to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.” –Think Progress, March 10, 2009.
Clearly Holder is stirring up fear in the population that their second amendment rights will be abridged, which predictable results in increased murders. Shame on Holder.
I own 30 round magazines because sometimes ordered societies become less ordered, such as in the LA riots, Katrina, Earthquakes, or power outages in New York City. Plus they’re fun.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:31 ampete Says:
Both President Obama and Eric Holder have backed off a renewal of the ban on “assault weapons”. I think they’re wrong.
Legally purchased “assault weapons” are being used to murder our fellow Americans in record numbers. It’s long past time to try and stop the carnage.
I suggest you go back and research Ill legislation and just see that your Sorry Assed President proposed and sign the most strict gun control in the states history then try and tell people he doesn’t want to remove your second amendment rights. Wake you and just look around at what we have lost already.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:32 amThe second fact is assault weapons are the lowest percentage of weapons used in killings. More people at killed with ball bats and clubs than assault weapons .. Don’t take my word for it check the FBI files on gun related deaths.
WEll, this should be interesting at least.
A few things I noticed;
1. Columbine and VA Tech were both mentioned. A question was asked about whose fault this was, I would like to point out that these areas were gun-free zones. Gun-free zones gaurentee the maximum number of victims.
2. Obama being black…I find this acutlaly laughable he pulled this off. Sure is father was black, but he was raised by a white woman and went to a white school. I’m suprised he’s not married to a white woman.
And on a side note, Korea launches a roket that may be able to hit our soil, Russia wants to put bombers in Cuba, and Obama and his cronies wanna cut defense spending…
For the record, Little Bush wasn’t much better but, Clinton was lazy, Bush Sr got the shaft, and reagan should be in the hall of fame.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:40 amI fully support the 2nd Amendment but…
Can’t you Reichwhiners see?
The Reichwing media are fanning the flames of rebellion. The stupid freaks who absorb their message are hoarding, and using, military weapons. The only possible outcome is rivers of blood running down Main Street U.S.A.
If that doesn’t make an impression? Try this:
The next dead body might be your child, or parent, or neighbor, or spouse. Do you really think you can stand guard 24/7? Can you protect your loved ones from the psychopath down the block?
April 7th, 2009 at 3:40 am.
cyberguy353,
See my post at #208…
… Which are you, Tutsi, or Hutu?
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April 7th, 2009 at 3:42 amwhere are you from? Are they not your rights aswell?
You guys and girls should also be fighting to protect these rights, if you let them have this one what will they want next?
April 7th, 2009 at 3:42 amYou’re right but, my neighbor carries a weapon, my daughters also carry, and both of my parents do to. They may very well be the next dead body but at least they’ll have a fighting chance. How about your kid, will they run to a gun-free zone and yell olly olly ox i’m free? I’m on base you can’t get me?
April 7th, 2009 at 3:47 amI worked for law enforcement for 14 1/2 years and I never worked a case where an assault weapon was used to kill anyone. Several guns but never an assault weapon. We just had a double murder ( Husband & Wife in their 50’s) of 2 friends of mine last week and they were killed with a knife at a Pizza Plus as they were closing up. Both had their throats cut and stabbed several times. They both might be alive and some low life punks might have been the ones killed if they would have had a gun for protection. I am a firm believer that everyone that qualifies to own one should and also have a concealed carry permit.
Police can’t protect you plain and simple. If they could it would take posting one at every resident and business in the country so you need to protect yourself.
I own several that are on the active ban list that was published just a couple weeks ago and they don’t even know what an assault weapon is.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:48 am.
Dear concernTROLLIES,
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage when the MCA of 2006 was signed…
… BY G.W.BUSH?
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage when Americans were spied upon, warrantlessly…
… BY G.W.BUSH?
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage when policies of TORTURE were instituted…
… BY G.W.BUSH?
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage when a covert CIA agent was outed…
… BY R.B.CHENEY?
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage when lies were told to the U.S. Senate that lead to the needless deaths of 4265 U.S. Service members…
… BY G.W.BUSH?
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage when the DOJ was tilted for partisan purposes…
… BY G.W.BUSH?
Just where were you with your manufactured outrage THEN?
All I listed above qualify as either acts of FELONIES, CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS, USURPATION OF THE CONSTITUTION, or TREASON.
… And all you have is gun restrictions?
Your (R)age is purely an impotent (R)ant. What with all this picking up arms against your brother. Hell has a place for Christians like you… eh Daryyl?
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April 7th, 2009 at 3:57 am.
Dear youcallmeanut,
What do you call a person who argues the logic of murder?
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April 7th, 2009 at 3:59 amMax I didn’t bother to read your post. Probably dribble anyway.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:04 amTo answer your question I am an American Marine. My Father was an American Navy Fighting CB, my Grandfather was in the Navy in WW1.
I ain’t scared of much, and you people scare the piss outta me.
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Dear JussMee,
When you say that you, “… worked for law enforcement for 14 1/2 years,” may I assume that you are retired?
And when you say you, “own several that are on the active ban list that was published just a couple weeks ago,” may I assume that you know you are knowingly breaking the law?
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:06 amIf your intent is murder then you have an issue that needs to be dealt with. I do not and noone I know wishes to commit murder. But I and my circle of friends will protect the life and limb of ourselves, and you aswell, if the need unwantingly arises.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:07 amSeriously guys, every American President as far as I can remember has been called the anti-christ and it’s not likely to change.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:08 am.
Dear cyberguy353,
TMI… and dribble to boot!
If you did care to respond, it wasn’t because you read what I wrote to you at all, for what I wrote was short and obscure. None of which you caught the implied message of, NO? But instead, your badge does not honor your knocked knees, for that badge was forged for the good of the Nation and Her Constitution, no more and no less. It would do a Marine good to learn that history, for it is that history for which a Marine is sworn to fight for, no more or less, NO?
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:12 amWell… I notice that you stupid trolls have ignored the part where I said I fully support the 2nd Amendment. I own several weapons myself and have no wish to give them up.
What I have a problem with is; lunatics like Becky telling the ignorant masses that they should be afraid of the lawful government of our nation and they should stockpile weapons of mass destruction. And I’m also against the unregulated ownership of military weapons.
“Assault weapons”, “high capacity weapons”, call them what you will. I fail to see a legitimate civilian use for them. Go ahead and carry a revolver, a rifle, or a shotgun. Law abiding citizens have that right and I’ll support it.
What strikes me as insane is the casual ownership of weapons that give a single psychopath the firepower of a squad of trained soldiers.
Heck! I would be satisfied with a national registry that sorts out the obvious freaks.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:13 amIn any great society, which ours is one, have always been besiged from the outside at some point in there history. To this point we have been lucky. Our natural borders protect us to a great degree. I think the ownership of weapons in a coutnry protects its citizens by the very nature of its existence. No foriegn or domestic enemy knows exactly who has or doesn’t posses weapons. I think this issue should be left alone. We have enough things to concerns the citizens of this great country without fighting over single issues such as gun control. There will always be those who own weapons and those who don’t. If gun ownership is curtailed its only our future generations who will truly suffer. Very few assualt weapon deaths, and I mean true assualt weapon deaths have ever been recorded. When compared to the overall murder rate in this country. How many rebel insurgent armies do you think could survive in this country. Leave this issue alone there are far greater issue that confront us. If you must worry about something worry about the debt load our children face, or about their ability to get a good paying job. Our future generations face a far greater risk of starving and being homeless than they do being shot with any semi automatic weapon.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:15 amPete,
I understand where you are coming from. Btu I gotta ask, are you a nutcase just because you own an “assault” weapon? I personally do not own any but, I think I am more afraid of the guy who owns a stolen handgun who decides to just shoot up the first corner he finds people standing on.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:16 am.
Dear youcallmeanut,
If killing your brother over political differences is not called murder, then what do you call it? We Liberals, aren’t the ones calling for the masses to take up arms against our brothers, YES? And we Liberals, aren’t here attempting to justify that cause, either, NO?
So why do you?
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:18 amWell, to use your own flawed excuse against you, Obama’s only been in office a couple of months. He hasn’t had the chance to make a lot of mistakes. He started with the stimulus package, so there’s your first one. But be patient. Your little tyrant-in-training will get his chance.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:20 amIn case you haven’t noticed I’m not here to recruit mombers into a secret society of liberal killers. The people you speak of are the radical wackjobs of which I am not a member. They are no different than the liberal radicals such as PETA.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:23 amNo, you may not assume so, but we may infer that you have no concept of Constitutional law, which guarantees the individual right to bear arms. (That means “carry guns,” for the “Think Progress” crowd, who apparently can neither “think” nor make any “progress.”) The “assault weapons” ban is unlawful. Now go learn something, won’t you?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:24 amIt’s time for bed. All you trolls/heroes will haunt my dreams.
G’night Max. Fight the good fight.
You too, you cowardly trolls. It must suck to live with your fears. I hope that the thought of a real patriot, like me, who can pick you off before you know I’m there brings you comfort. Try not to kill any kids any time soon. That would be a tragedy.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:24 amhey pete
Did you know the Swiss require every household to be part of a home guard. They require ownership of weapons to protect their neutral contry. The ownership of military type weapons is the only deterant the common citizen can have against an unjust governemt. Come on people get off it.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:24 amyoucallmeanut,
Please forgive me, clearly I’mthenut.
I confused your response TO blofeld42’s rantings as a rant for a shoot to kill “plus they’re fun” in times of danger…
Please accept.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:25 amaccepted
April 7th, 2009 at 4:28 amJust because you fail to see a legitimate civilian use for them does not mean there is none. All it means is that you fail.
Ignorance speaks again. I was in the Army so I know whereof I speak. A “squad,” as part of the standard infantry platoon–of which I was a member for eight years–measures anywhere from 12-15 men depending on the needs, or it could be pared down to four if it had to be.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:29 amNo weapon anywhere could give one person the firepower–or the training needed to use it–to match a squad of soldiers. Try not to be so melodramatic.
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Dear YouIdiotsCantThink,
… Because the one prior was just peachy, YES?
Now about that stimulus package…
… Tell us why it won’t work?
Because we all know how well that surge went, NO?
Or, or, or, how well that tax cut helped saved jobs?
Or how well news stories planted by the Pentagon helped catapult that propaganda.
You mean like that?
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:31 amG’nite Pete…
… Maybe their washing their bedsheets before bedtime.
You know, piss!n’ diapers all day causes massive leaks at night. The sheets don’t wash themselves, you know.
:)
April 7th, 2009 at 4:33 amSo since I don’t fear you, it follows that you are therefore uneducated. (I could tell from the ‘quality’ of your posts, but thanks for giving me the opening.)
April 7th, 2009 at 4:33 amActually the stimulus package won’t work simply because we have seen it won’t work in the past. Japan tried it, europe tried it, even Little Bush tried it.
We spent ourselves into this mess so what makes us think spending more moeny will get us out of it?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:33 amyoucallmeanut,
2 words…
ACCOUNTABILITY & REGULATION
… Something that hasn’t been tested, yet.
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:35 amTo: Max Anax junius -1 Says:
No the weapons I currently have aren’t band yet but I was referring to the list that is presently going through legislation at this time as active legislation.
Yes I am retied now.
The weapons I have were grandfather through the Brady Bill just because I owned them prier to it being enacted all but one and I sold it to a legal agency
April 7th, 2009 at 4:35 amI never said Bush was a better president, did I? No, that was you whining about your feelings being pricked. Go get a tissue and finish weeping, YES?
The stimulus won’t work for the same reasons that getting yourself a payday loan won’t work to get yourself out of debt. You borrow yourself into a hole. Go read it, YES?
And the surge is working. Ask soldiers who are serving. Fewer of them are dying and Iraq is making a comeback. Think of that yet? NO.
The “planted news stories” bit I never heard of, but doubtless it comes from the same conspiracy theory drivel you panic-mongers like to sow, and thus warrants no reply.
And what’s with YES and NO? Learned new words, have you? Good boy!
April 7th, 2009 at 4:37 amDear Pete,
The legitimate civilian use of our so called assault weapons is to keep our government in line. In colonial times civilians had the most modern weapons. That was the intent of the founding fathers, not to hunt turkey or quail.
George Washington personally owned 50 guns – 40 rifles and 10 handguns. He was personally responsible for leading the fight for freedom in liberty in this country. In his Presidential Address to the First U.S. Congress, the Second Session, President Washington declared:
“…when firearms go, all goes…we need them every hour… Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon and citizens firearms are indelibly related… The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference… they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good…From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security, and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable …”
I hate these murdering bastards as much as anyone here, maybe more because they are endangering my rights.
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty or security.” -Ben Franklin
April 7th, 2009 at 4:38 amAnd thanks to youcallmeanut for making that point quickly and concisely while I was typing.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:39 am.
Dear YouIdiotsCantThink,
At post #245…
… Care to supply a legitimate reason, then?
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:40 amThe only issue with accountablility and regulation is their are no means consitutionally for this. How much regulation should the federal government have? To the point of firing top level officers of companies? Setting wages for workers?
The federal government should stay out of economics, my personal opinion. Siad when Little b was in office and I’ll say it until Obama leaves and the next guy meddles.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:40 amNite all Have a Good and Safe Day tomorrow
April 7th, 2009 at 4:45 amGod Bless
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Dear YouIdiotsCantThink,
Care to explain why your propaganda ministers said the surge was a success?
But I thought all well informed citizens make a Democracy good? Care to read and inform yourself about planted stories?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/02/politics/02propaganda.html
And again, there’s that “YOU GUYS” McSPEWAGE…
… What’s up with that, anyway? It’s so, so divisive. I guess because it draws upon base bias and reactive responses to a perceived common enemy… Perhaps?
And yes, I speak English well, NO?
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:49 amAnyone who believes what the NY Times says is as goofy as the Rush crowd. I’m sure their is some truth in their but rest assured it’s well written to draw the crowd from the left.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:52 am.
Dear cyberguy353,
When you say, “The legitimate civilian use of our so called assault weapons is to keep our government in line.”
So are you suggesting using these assault weapons on members of our Government? Or just anyone who gets in the way?
You forgot to mention that George Washington was also the General of the Army…
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April 7th, 2009 at 4:55 amOne final thought… I may not agree with much of what is said here but I would defend to the death your right to say it.
Let’s just pray that the next generation has the same rights.
God Bless America.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:55 amNo Max, Don’t be a dip. It’s the THOUGHT of all those people with all those guns.
Sheesh
April 7th, 2009 at 4:59 am.
youcallmeanut,
@#259, Look, Google IS your friend. USE IT.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/politics/318813/white_house_concerned_over_planted_iraq_stories/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/01/AR2005120101726.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1218-05.htm
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/dec2005/prop-d02.shtml
But of course, not anything recent, no?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JA17Ak03.html
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April 7th, 2009 at 5:02 amDont’t get me wrong, I have no doubt that people fudge numbers to make their plans look better, or even make up stories to help their cause, Al Gore comes to mind.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:04 am.
But, but, but cyberguy353…
… You guys(sic) have all the guns!
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April 7th, 2009 at 5:04 am.
youcallmeanut,
@#264, But George W. doesn’t?
Hummm….
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April 7th, 2009 at 5:06 amI would have to say it’s hard to say. Think about it, if he is as dumb as people think he is he would not be able to make up the stories he’s accused of.
I’ve actually met him and he is a smart guy, and yes i’m sure some of the stories from his administration are skewed to try and make him look good.
the problem I’m beginning to see here is I think both parties of the American establishment are screwed up. I think they are both out to take your rights away anad will eventually scare you into it. Anymore all they have to say is terrorist, war, your protection or somethin to the like and we are willing to let them listen to our phone calls. We have noone to blame but ourselves abotu the mess we’re in because we keep electing the same exact people who put us here. We got this pitbull as a puppy and we raised it to be the way it is, now it wants to bite us and we just let it.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:11 amExactly Max. Now you’re catching on.
By the by… your ignorance is boundless. Google is NOT your friend.
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
Peace out… Some of us still have jobs.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:11 am.
cyberguy353,
The Government already knows me…
… That’s a cool search engine, btw.
Now, the term, “Google, it’s your friend” is meant to endear one to be self sufficient. You know, seek and ye shall find, sort of self sufficiency. Or was I too obscure, once again?
Now, my last riddle, if you guys(sic) have all the guns and you’re afraid of all the people totin’ all those guns, then who is it you’re really afraid of, again? A peace-nic with a flower?
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April 7th, 2009 at 5:31 am‘Gee, if they want to play with guns, why don’t they join the military and really defend the Constitution??’
Because they would miss potential Nascar spinout crashes and Klan rallies.
These fatuous aholes have no interest in the US Constitution, internatonal law or common sense.
How many multiple shootings occurred in the US last week? I guarantee these same reactionary hillbillies buying guns by the truckload were the same dumbasses screaming that if MORE people carried MORE firearms, the tragedy in Binghamton NY would never have happened.
Not surprisingly, they are the same inbred cretins who believe Obama is a Muslim, but God forbid these mental insects spend 4 seconds on this planet without a shitload of lethal weapons at their disposal.
When is the ‘right to bare arms’ going to take its rightful place alongside the right own slaves and oppress women?
April 7th, 2009 at 5:37 amNoone ever said I was afraid of anyone in particular. But we both know their are folks out there who wish to do us harm, so what is wrong with me legally carrying a weapon in the event such a person would like to wave a knife in my wifes face, or shoot at people in a McDonalds? Either case would warrant danger to myself and others and therefore would be a case in which said weapon would be used to thwart a robbery or to remove a hostile figure from performing any further acts.
I am more afraid of the bullet that is directed to noone in particular…
April 7th, 2009 at 5:39 amGolly I go awt to dat der awthaws fer a spail en comed beck onleh ta fine awt we aint gat no mo slevs. en dem deburn wimmin folk gots raights now ta.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:44 amI already said I ain’t afraid of much.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:56 amHowever I am scared of liberals with an agenda to take away my firearms.
Just for the record I never cared for Bush much either.
Oh, and the only difference between an assault weapon and a sporting firearm is a bayonet lug and a flash suppressor. My weapons like Jusmee’s were grandfathered.
You really don’t hear of these mass murdering nutjobs bayoneting anyone.
I do think we can all agree this has to stop.
Whether it’s requiring concealed carry for every able-minded person or physiological evaluations for everyone wanting a firearm I don’t know.
I do know the answer is not to take away the arms of men like myself and Jusmee. There are many more good men in this country than there are nutjobs.
I did enjoy the banter Max, Have a great Tuesday.
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youcallmeanut,
I half agree with you. Yes, the system in the “beltway” is not in touch with the heartland of America. Their ways in that “beltway” have allowed themselves to be engorged by the fruits of the People. This is why it IS important to hold your Representative accountable so that they can facilitate the needs of the People from which they were voted to do. This is how we hold our Senators and President accountable, too. Through our elected Representatives.
I’m fortunate. My Representative meet with me and the group of sit-ins at his office. He’s personally responded to my letters, and not just automated. He’s argued the “beltway” reasoning and I shouted him down, publicly in an open forum, and didn’t get thrown out for it because I was right when I questioned him as to how he’s representing the People by telling us how it’s going to be.
And yes, accountability was placed off the table, not by a (R)epublican.
Feet to the fire, or it’s me who gets burned, I always say.
And now that we are in another cycle of a new presidency, one who campaigned on the hope of “CHANGE”, I can’t help but hold true to my motto. Now, being the realist that I am, I can see the concerns of the stimulus spending, I just haven’t seen it fail, or succeed, because that race is just starting. Let the runners out of the gate before we call it finished, please?
Now, about that Second Amendment: A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Here’s an article and view I can get behind…
http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20090406/GETPUBLISHED/904060388/1006/NEWS01
“regulated” does mean something, NO? What, then, does “Well regulated” mean? Versus anyone can own any type?
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April 7th, 2009 at 6:07 amOpps, You probably figured out I meant psychological exams.
Youcallmeanut… now there’s an 1d10t.
Heigh ho, heigh ho
April 7th, 2009 at 6:15 amcyberguy353,
I’m not afraid of your bayonet or of you, per say. It’s the persons holding the guns that concerns me the most. There has to be a compromise somewhere or else anyone can own a gun. And we all know what happens when anyone can own a gun, sometimes they use them on people, not dear. That’s what scares me.
It’s the unregulated ownerships that scare me.
It’s the arms smuggling that scares me.
It’s the drug dealer totin’ a side arm, that concerns me.
It’s the depressed teenager with angst, that concerns me.
Or the unemployed father that shoots his family, that concerns me.
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April 7th, 2009 at 6:21 amThat’s interesting, but let me ask you.
What percentage of gun crimes are commited by legal weapons and law biding citizens.
How much did gun crime drop when an assault weapons ban was passed.
I don’t knwo the exact numbers but I will be willing to bed based on personal experience of growing up in south Alabam where pretty much everyone owns a gun of some sort and there is hardly any crime, compared to a place like NYC where gun laws are more strict and more guns are illegal to begine with…
that the answer is very seldom are legal weapon used for crime. Just an educated guess, I would say that gun crime may have dropped 4% after the AWB was passed. This is not counting accidental or self defense uses but guns that were actively used in crime.
Of course I think the federal government should be able to regulate, I just say they are regulating the wrong way and punishing the good guys.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:28 amWhat?
April 7th, 2009 at 6:31 amIt is regulated.
Smugglers and derug dealers are criminals to begine with and their weapons are likely not regulated to begin with.
The depressed teenager should have parent s who are involved in theri lives.
The unemployed father should know better.
Seriously how many unemployed fathers are out their killing their families? I am an unemployed father, worked in the ariline industry for 15 years, haven’t killed my kids yet.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:35 amYes, we are coming. Get your guns ready. “Bring out your Dead”
April 7th, 2009 at 8:14 amWe are coming. Kill the wife and kids. We are coming. We are coming for your guns and ammo. All the ammo. Even the boxes you have stashed at your mommy’s house.
The statement is:
April 7th, 2009 at 8:38 am“They will get my gun when they pry it from my cold dead child’s hands.”
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muzz Says:
I keep getting this really bad feeling that a bunch of these freaks are going to band together and decide to really go out and do something about their psychotic fears – mark my words – this is going to get really ugly before it gets any better.
April 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
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This sounds quite similar to all those posts by those who were convinced Bush would not leave office without bombing Iran and those who were convinced he wouldn’t leave office at all, but would declare martial law. Get a grip. ;)
April 7th, 2009 at 9:11 amI for one am all for supporting the right for every American, regardless of age, to walk down the street and into ANY public establishment while wearing a sidearm of choice and a military semi-automatic or automatic rifle slung comfortably over a shoulder.
Whew! Wouldn’t our world be sucha beautiful, loving, peaceful, kind of place?
I can see all the churches and mosques, with neat stacks of rifles kept near each row of seats or pews (close enough to be handy for that eventual drastic emergency that will require a lot of people to send a lot of rounds downrange very quickly).
I can see the schoolyards, where children no longer have to fear bullies because they’re ALL packing heat (reminds me of a Marilyn Manson song — “I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well…”).
Peace and prosperity through high caliber persuasion and intimidation. Makes perfect sense.
Land of the free, home of the well armed citizenry.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:30 amAll those buying these guns can place them next to the guns they bought when Kennedy was going to take them away, next to the ones they bought defore LBJ took them, next to the ones they bought when Carter was going to take them, qnd next to the ones they bought when Clinton was going to take them. Then stand back , look in the mirror – do you see a sucker?
April 7th, 2009 at 9:42 am______
CageyCretin Says:
I for one am all for supporting the right for every American, regardless of age, to walk down the street and into ANY public establishment while wearing a sidearm of choice and a military semi-automatic or automatic rifle slung comfortably over a shoulder.
Whew! Wouldn’t our world be sucha beautiful, loving, peaceful, kind of place?
I can see all the churches and mosques, with neat stacks of rifles kept near each row of seats or pews (close enough to be handy for that eventual drastic emergency that will require a lot of people to send a lot of rounds downrange very quickly).
I can see the schoolyards, where children no longer have to fear bullies because they’re ALL packing heat (reminds me of a Marilyn Manson song — “I got my lunchbox and I’m armed real well…”).
Peace and prosperity through high caliber persuasion and intimidation. Makes perfect sense.
Land of the free, home of the well armed citizenry.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:30 am
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You’re going off the deep end, there, bud. ;)
April 7th, 2009 at 9:54 amIn a year or so, our economic problems will be long forgotten and the news every day will be about the new struggle against domestic terrorism. The cycle of moral, paranoid in-breeding is just spiraling down deeper and deeper now…
April 7th, 2009 at 9:59 amI wish the gun show folks would read the story of the twisted 23 year old neo-nazi devotee who shot and killed 3 Pittsburgh cops. He was stock piling weapons and preparing for an imagined government raid that would confiscate his beloved AK 47. He blogged on white supremacy sites and expounded on racial separation and purity of blood. He was a product of the hate sub-culture nurtured by right wing propagandists who choose to make President Obama a target for the weak and paranoid minded among us. They collectively share guilt in the deaths of those martyred cops.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:31 amLet’s compare the amount of murders done each year in the Hood…from Saturday night specials…vice the amount of Murders each year by these so called Rightwing Loonies that you leftest keep referring to who purchase their guns legally?
Every time one of you idiots say “Gun Control”…I go out and buy another gun…to control it! Keep up the good work!
April 7th, 2009 at 10:56 amI’m sorry, but this story and most of the related comments are extremely weak. I live in KY, not far from this place, and I’ve NEVER HEARD OF THIS GUN SHOOT. First of all, anyone who would read this tripe and assume the majority of Kentuckians or even conservatives are people who would sell/buy ignorant T-shirts like these has more in common with the sellers than they realize. Secondly, the author is just trying to stir up the left needlessly. Did Weigel report on other what else was sold at this little event? No. Did he interview anyone? Perhaps, but they only report the sensational. I’m sorry, but that’s narrow-minded at best.
What we need is open dialog, not “reporters” who are Jerry Springer wannabes. We need open, intelligent dialog between the two sides. Rather than stoop to writing inflammatory articles or comments, work to bring understanding across the aisle. Now THAT would be change I could believe in.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:00 pmThese shirts were awesome. It is shame Dave Weigel was too much of a coward to do an interview with the NRA. I thought “reporters” were supposed to tell both sides of the story…oh well.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:01 pmI’m not left-wing, I’m not right-wing, but I highly recommend that everyone visit youtube.com and search for the documentary “The Obama Deception” It discusses and properly backs all of the instances of how Barack said everything we wanted to hear during his campaign and then made a full 180 when put into office. What happened to bringing the troops home in 6 months? It turned to 12-months and now its 23 months and they’re not even coming home, they’re going to afghanistan. And the gun control thing is discussed in this documentary as well with live interviews stating that they’re attempting to put a full ban on guns unless you’re a police officer or military personnel. Did I just hear the 2nd amendment run through the paper shredder? Again, I’m not democrat, I’m not republican ( they’re both part of the same posse anyways with the same agenda and the same puppeteers behind the curtain) but I HIGHLY recommend everyone watch this documentary. At the very least, take into consideration all the points made in the vid and make your own judgement. When the sh*t hits the fan, you won’t be able to say “I didn’t see it coming”
NOT CARING is the worst thing you could do. Stay informed.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:01 pmTwo thoughts come to mind:
1. “This controversy sponsored in part by (insert name of gun manufacturer here)…”
2. This whole thing reminds me of how the KKK sounded during the 70’s and 80’s when they started their long slow decline. I think it’s a human trait, people get shrill when they see their little worlds crumbling (especially when it is clear that they are n the wrong). As validation of this, let’s watch the responses to this post.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:03 pmJust for your information, all of us from the south are not “inbred” idiots like so many of you bloggers refer to us. I will say this, though, it will be interesting to see what you liberals are going to do when Obama and his Acorn mentality group do start coming into our neighborhoods and taking away our possessions and our rights. It is incredible that one man had such a hold over an entire country that he could convince hundreds of thousands of citizens in his country and numerous surrounding countries that a certain group of people should die. Yes Hitler was a gifted speaker and Germany was in a horrible financial postition following world war I and the timing was perfect. (sound familiar) I suggest all of you gifted, Mensa card carrying outsiders take a moment to re-read your history books. And by the way, when we get bombed by our islamic enemies and there is no electricity, or running water or grocery stores, or tofu for you intellectual elitists, don’t coming running to us to kill and clean your food. We have survived hundreds of years by living off of the land and we will a hundred more as long as bleeding heart, PETA preaching know it alls like you all stay away. Oh yeah, and one thing for sure, all of these gang bangers in the great cities of detroit, cleveland, memphis and LA obviously did not learn to use a gun in our part of the country. We eat what we kill. They aren’t worth the bullets.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pmwow, i have never in my life seen so many closed minded folks then in here, and i grew up in the “evil south”. You folks are truly the whack jobs, the most narrow minded, abusive, facist people. I always grew up a southern democrat and a proud one, but the demoncratic liberal “progresive” party is a disgrace to American patriotism and yall should be ashamed. Obama and his cronies are bad for America anyway you cut it.
The gun violence, ever heard of a black market folks? take guns from goo simaritans, cops cannot protect everyone. Take em away, criminals will still get them, where is the priotection, what happened to our constitution? NOW, i do not think obama will take away guns rights, that’s like taking away the first amenedment, and folks would be up in arms, and it would be right to assasinate obama if that were the case, government assasination such as treason charges for abusing power, but he is smarter then that…
These shirts are freedom of expression, and you folks and yalls heinous comments show how power hungry and what fear mongering yall have yourselfs…LOOK IN THE MIRROR you liberal freaks you are destroying the democratic party and empowering the repukigans with yalls little man’s napoleanoic complex.. Godd day and God Bless
April 7th, 2009 at 12:41 pmPapa C. to dbadass!! Its people like you that we really need
April 7th, 2009 at 12:51 pmto watch!! A left wing extreamist that wants to shoot at law
abiding citizens at a lawful gun show!! I doubt if you could
pass a background check so you could legally purchase a firearm !! Their is one thing for sure you couldn`t pass a
mental exam !!
U.S. citizens need to listen up. First: the only “Americans” in the U.S.A live on reservations so put that in your PETA loving text books. Second: Without the right of citizens to defend their land and country the “USA” would Not exist today! Third: This is not about hunting rights or the right to have guns nor is it about KEEPING GUNS FROM CRIMINALS this is about what our for fathers KNEW was RIGHT and NEEDED to protect the freedoms THEY FOUGHT and DIED FOR! Understand that the Second Amendment was and is worded to allow citizens the ability to protect there selves from over bearing and corrupt governments. LIKE OUR FOR FATHERS DID FROM THE BRITISH. A Great Modern day example can and was seen between England and France. When constructing the tunnel under the English channel it took twice as long for England to Acquire the Land needed to build the rails and infrastructure necessary to complete the project. Whereas France simply TOOK THE LAND NEEDED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT! WHY? Because similar to the U.S.A England has laws the protect THE PEOPLE from corrupt government and makes government PAY an appropriate Sum for TAKING an INDIVIDUALS PROPERTY, France does not. IN CONCLUSION: ENGLAND and AUSTRALIA have reformed their gun laws to make it Difficult for criminals to acquire guns THIS HAS NOT WORKED NOR HAS IT REDUCED CRIME! Both sides need to wake up. You can not take everything from the Rich and GIVE to the Poor, Flat Taxes will help, BUT PAYING PEOPLE TO LIVE IN AMERICA WILL NOT (I have a Sister and her and her husband get a refund but pay NO TAXES and do not tell me I am wrong I have seen their Tax returns) on the Republican side Paying a CEO the salary of 10 or 20 workers DOES NOT BENEFIT THE COMPANY OR THE U.S.A. 20 maybe 30 years ago the process for investing was STABILITY now it is GREED . INVEST FAST and HARD and get out with ALL YOU CAN. YES, the U.S.A has become a friend Damn Place has it not? Grow up and worry about your families and country and less about YOURSELF or your PARTY.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pmI know a lot of reasonably normal people who scared poopless over the Obama-Pelosi-Clinton axis. E.G. the 3 being closet-case socialists.
This same stuff also happened in the early 90’s (under Bush 1) with the assault weapons ban (which wasn’t a ban really). People bought because they don’t want to be told they can’t.
The Israel thing: the rationale – 1st it’s the Holy Land and has to be protected by a friendly state, 2ndly the Revelationists believe that the 2nd coming can only happen under a contiguous, united Israel after some major mid-east war (armagendon). Thereby it is Christian duty to support Israel. Not all conservatives consciously believe this but they are influenced presence of this belief.
April 7th, 2009 at 12:57 pmThe President Obamma makes for a stunning addition to any dichotomy.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pmWhoa no one should lump everyone that attends a gun show into brainless, racist, in-breds because that in and of itself is single minded. While the shirts being sold are offensive it is also the right of someone to express their opinion, there are way worse shirts out there that express things offensive to me and my Christianity (which it seems is also offensive to some people here) not to mention the seemingly endless bumper stickers, t-shirts, websites and other ridiculing and demonizing Bush, but since he was a bad President it was OK. Our Bill of Rights are not able to be changed by anyone, not by Obama or the Democrats and the truth is that guns are part of our culture not everyone who owns guns are crazy, ready to snap and kill or wanting to overthrow the Government. Being closed minded and short-sighted the way many of you who have commented are seems to be a problem in our society. Believing that your Government can always protect even in disasters is ludicrous and short-sighted. I would also like to note is that I spent 12 years in the Army protecting yours and my freedoms and rights to speech and guns, therefore I am not someone who wants to “play” army but a Veteran of the wars of my Fathers, Grandfathers and a Brother to those who still fight for these freedoms. While you talk of “reichwingers” perpetuating the anger of Conservatives the same could be said of extreme Liberalism and believing all things that you read without a bit of skepticism.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pmAmazing, so much ignorance on one blog. I myself being a republican, gun owner, voter, etc, cant imagine what goes through peoples minds while posting trash like this. Seems to me that the posters on this blog have nothing better to do than to bash republicans and gun owners for a small handful of doughheads that dislike our president. I do however believe that it is people like the ones rambling uneducated responses that all gun owners should be leary of. Ban gun shows? nut jobs? A few t shirts and you goobs have your panties in a wad pointing fingers at all conservatives? Guns dont solve anything? except oppression, murder, tyranny, grant freedom of speech, religion, etc (freedom for you morons to ramble on about all gun owners and republicans) and yet you seem to forget that if not for guns and our militia you probably wouldnt be alive today practicing your freedom to behave ignorant that firearms gave you. Get real America is dead on with his post. Maybe you people need a history lesson hey? You should be thanking our forefathers and our militia for giving us the right to bear arms to protect us against tyranny, instead of acting like sheep and thinking that all gun show goers and owners are far right wing nut jobs. Because what I have seen on this blog is a bunch of big mouths with little education on the subject complaining about tshirts and bumper stickers similiar to the ones printed about our former president bush.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm299/300- well said folks.. these folks here, it appears by their comments, are exactly what they say they dislike, but are too simple minded to realize it, what a shame. Guns up liberals down, should be the new motto, what ever happened to the true emaiercan demcratic party? it appears its been hikjacked by nutjobs.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pmAmerican democratic*, sorry typo
April 7th, 2009 at 1:34 pmAre you people for real? You sound as bad even worse than the people you are putting down. Get real people!! I think you all should get more information from other areas than just this blog…. I agree with highandlost most of these comments show what dumb,inbred, morons their writers really are.
I looked up this Think Progress site and I do not believe they really want progress, instead they seem to want to keep everyone up in “arms” toward each other.
Kentucky is a better state than some others I can think of.
I consider myself a CONSERVATIVE and am a registered DEMOCRAT
April 7th, 2009 at 1:41 pmI don’t take one so called “reporter” or “think tank” know it all word for everything. Neither should you.
if these uneducated believing so much in guns, go over iraq and afghanistan so our troops can come home to be with their families.some of them are prejudice while majority are naive and dumb!.president obama gives a damn about guns while he’s focusing to recover our economy.stuipd ass fools!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pmSECOND ADMENDMENT.THESE SHIRT ARE TRUE.OBAMA IS A SOCIALIST,HITLER WANTED THE GUNS,AND LOOKED WHAT HAPPEND.OBAMA’S PAST ON GUN CONTROL IS TOTAL SOCIALISTIC.THIS IS GOOD FOR GUN STORES.THESE SHOWS ARE GREAT,YOU SHOULD VISIT ONE BEFORE COMMENTING ON THEM.VERY NICE PEOPLE THERE.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pm>>Land of the free, home of the well armed citizenry.
Funny, I can hear Barry Pepper saying that.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pmDeregulation worked great for banks. We’re hardly even in a Depression for it now.
Why not for guns?
It’s “Thunderdome Time!”, right Wolverines?
This thing turned into a real freaky righty orgy as soon as the lights went out.
Guess that’s proof of how “brave” Righties are.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:27 pmOBAMA,THE TRUE DECEPTION. WATCH OBAMA DECEPTION,GOOD FLICK.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:41 pmNot to pour cold water on this “they’re a bunch of fear-mongering haters” rant, but wasn’t it the left that repeatedly accused Bush of being Hitler? Wasn’t it the left that pushed the idea that Bush wanted to create a theocracy? Wasn’t it the left that said that Bush was creating a dictatorship?
In that Obama hasn’t changed a thing since taking office–and added his call for a “civilian security force every bit as well-armed and prepared as our military”, and started staging 80,000 troops in Georgia for possible “civil disobedience” (Army Times, Consequence Management Response Force), I’d have to say that if the left’s concerns had any grain of truth to them, the the right’s concerns are well-founded. Now, if you on the left want to admit it was all hogwash and hyperbole for nothing but a political advantage, I’d at least give you credit for being honest-but I don’t think the hatred and foaming at the mouth I saw from liberals was schtick. Maybe-but I don’t think so. So throw the “fear-mongering” label at the right all you want-we’re pikers compared to you lefties.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:48 pmWhat is wrong with exorcising our right to free speach? There are millions of Americans who decry the socialst agenda of Obama and his crooked administration. Will we be allowed to wear anti Obama shirts when he and his cohorts are frog marched off to jail?
April 7th, 2009 at 11:51 pmThey SHOULD BAN all guns. That way people will be safe. While they are at it they should make drunk driving illegal and heck make it illegal to manufacture or smoke crack and shoot up heron…HEY…wait a minute…
People just simply do not think about what they say or want…they are just happy and content to be sheep…so sad.
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