Right Wing Hysterical Over Obama’s ‘Not At War With Islam’ Remarks: ‘We Have Nothing To Apologize For’
Right Wing Hysterical Over Obama’s ‘Not At War With Islam’ Remarks: ‘We Have Nothing To Apologize For’
President Obama’s outreach to the Muslim world has been a welcome development after eight years of President Bush’s “us vs. them” approach. “Let me say this as clearly as I can,” he told the Turkish parliament yesterday. “The United States is not and will never be at war with Islam.” He told Turkish students today, “You will find a partner and a supporter and a friend in the United States of America.” Middle Eastern leaders are embracing Obama’s outreach already.
But apparently, the conservative establishment finds such outreach objectionable. On Fox News yesterday, John Bolton, Bill Kristol, and Sean Hannity all derided Obama’s comments to the Turkish parliament. They argued that in fact, the Iraq war served as evidence of America’s concern for Muslims. CNN’s Lou Dobbs also decried Obama’s praise for the “great civilization of Iran”:
BOLTON:There are an enormous amount of things we’ve done to benefit Muslims in countries all over the world. We have nothing to apologize for.
KRISTOL: But could Barack Obama say something that would be mildly unpopular to an audience which he was speaking? No. Could he say that the war in Afghanistan or the war in Iraq are just and that we have fought for Muslims, incidentally under President Clinton we fought for Muslims in Bosnia and Kosovo?
HANNITY: It seemed to me…that this was an attempt to apologize for toppling Saddam Hussein and the war on terror.
DOBBS: In his efforts to charm our allies, President Obama noted that Islam helped shape the world for the better, including the United States. He even declared Iran to be a great civilization.
Charles Krauthammer said Obama’s parliament speech was “not original and not terribly important.” Kristol responded that Krauthammer was being “too nice.” Watch a compilation:
In his first trip abroad, Obama also extended a hand towards Europe, saying that America had “shown arrogance” and had “been dismissive, even derisive” towards Europeans in the past. Again, the right wing saw this as evidence of Obama’s anti-Americanism.
The outreach is desperately needed. Over “70 percent of Egyptians, Pakistanis, Indonesians and Moroccans believe the United States is trying to weaken and divide the Islamic world,” an April 2007 WorldPublicOpinion poll said. It seems that for the far right, however, the best outreach is always through bullets and bombs.
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Right Wing Hysterical Over Obama’s ‘Not At War With Islam’ Remarks: ‘We Have Nothing To Apologize For’
– - Nevermind that those two things are mutually exclusive.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm“BOLTON:There are an enormous amount of things we’ve done to benefit Muslims in countries all over the world. We have nothing to apologize for.”
Except the countless Iraqis killed or injured for nothing more than Bush’s ego…
Dolt.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pmDear Neo-conservatives,
You lost. The adults are in charge now.
Sincerely,
April 7th, 2009 at 3:50 pmDee
But Obama didn’t demounce the wars. In fact he is pursuing more of them with gusto. Democracy Now!’s Amy Goodman reported some time back that the claimed withdrawal of troops isn’t exactly what it is advertised to be. Some 50 to 100K US led combat forces will remain in Iraq until 12-31-2011, just being renamed “assistance advisory brigades”. Yesterday Glen Greenwald opined that Obama is now looking worse than Bush on the domestic spying issue.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pmhttp://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/04/06/obama/index.html
To the wingnuts, peace is an abomination. War is the preference. But do keep in mind that all these talking heads have never been near a warzone or combat situation. They all want YOUR kids to die for THEIR wars.
Now thats fair and balanced.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:51 pmIt’s not so much that the conservative establishment finds such outreach objectionable. It’s that they find it usable. The right wing doesn’t care about policy prescriptions insomuch as it cares about being the ones prescribing the policies.
http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
April 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pmRight Wing Hysterical Over Obama’s ‘Not At War With Islam’ Remarks: ‘We Have Nothing To Apologize For’
Ohhh, I think hundreds of thousands of Iraqi families may just disagree on that.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pmThe neoconservatives are the “we” that Obama was referring to. Of course, they can’t admit that. Everything they have done has been strategic and in the best interest of the whole world – **gag**
April 7th, 2009 at 3:52 pmAs usual, the wingnuts are proving the “nuts” part. Kristol suggests that Obama declare the Iraq war to be “just” and demonstrative of how we’ve “fought for Muslims”. Kind of hard to convince them that we’re fighting “for” them when about a hundred thousand of them have died since our invasion.
And then there’s Hannity — still valiantly trying to conflate Saddam Hussein and the war on terror by putting them in the same sentence every chance he gets.
Let the right get hysterical. Obama is saying things that should be said — and more people are listening to them than to the ravings from the insane right.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:53 pmI knew, I just knew back in the 60’s when I saw them advertising that new Ronco™ “Crazy-Maker,” it would catch up to us sooner or later…
April 7th, 2009 at 3:53 pmHas anyone seen what the Obama DoJ under Holder is doing to a true American Hero, Tim deChristopher? Things are not looking good folks, Obama is looking more and more like a complete fraud.
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/4/3/utah_student_who_prevented_bush_admin
And then of course the ACLU has denounced Obama for being “more of the same” in regards the Bush policies and the WoT.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:55 pmHANNITY: It seemed to me…that this was an attempt to apologize for toppling Saddam Hussein and the war on terror.
Hannity, I dont care what YOU think, I want you to report so the people can decide.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pmIf you cant leave your personal bias out of your editorial diatribes then you are not a reporter…capice?
April 7th, 2009 at 3:57 pmAmerica has moved on from 1984.
We’ve decided to join the rest of the world in the 21st Century.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:58 pmNothing wrong with reaching out and starting a dialog. But the next question should be why are Muslims at war with everyone that is not a Muslim? I think the Muslims have some reaching out to do also and not just to America. Their intolerance of others needs to be examined.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pmEverything the President says sounds vaguely suspicious…
…to idiots.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:00 pmNOTHING to apologize for!?
We’ve demonized an entire group of people in this nation, based soley on what a few radical members of their fringe did.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pmLook, I dont demonize ALL Republicans for the mess they’ve done previously, they ALL didn’t pick Sarah Palin, they ALL dont demonize homosexuals, they ALL dont promote pre-emptive war.
Their intolerance of others needs to be examined. -10HD
You mean like those people McCain called agents of intolerance?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:01 pmBOLTON:There are an enormous amount of things we’ve done to benefit Muslims in countries all over the world.
You Bet! Those ungrateful ratbastards have had the benefit of not being overpopulated due to our benevolent violence against them!
April 7th, 2009 at 4:02 pmMay I suggest that Mr. Bolton is an arrogant prick?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pm10hourday – “Muslims” are not “at war with everyone who is not”.
That kind of extreme oversimplification is where all these problems start.
Do your part to help stop these problems, by reading up on the subject.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pmMethinks someone has their winky in their hands 10 hours a day. Maybe a little too much, too often?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pmShorter Neocon – Fcuk everyone who’s not us.
There much clearer and to the point.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:07 pm10hourday Says:
Nothing wrong with reaching out and starting a dialog. But the next question should be why are Muslims at war with everyone that is not a Muslim?
April 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
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And once you answer that question, you should ask why unicorns are at war with everyone who is not a unicorn.
It’s just as valid a question.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:11 pmObviously 10hourday1/2brain does not know any Muslims.
I have Muslim relatives and they only want your money (CPA).
Idiot.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:17 pmJohn Bolton, Bill Kristol, and Sean Hannity all derided Obama’s comments … Lou Dobbs also decried Obama’s praise for the “great civilization of Iran” and Charles Krauthammer…
What a mob of malefic morons. Truth is terrifying to them.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pmIts time to stop demonization.
Its as old as, and as ignorant as dirt. It allows people, politicians, war hawks, pundits to play on your emotions for their gain
April 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pm“Islam is peace” – George W. Bush
Where was the “outrage” then, neocons?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:19 pmtombaker -I have read up on the subject and I read the international news every day. A day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer -in the following conflicts: Sudan, Kashmir, Congo, Ivory Coast, New Caledonia, Sarajevo, Chechnya… then there is the Sunni-Shiite conflict where they are killing each other over an interpretation of their religion. They slaughtered a cartoonist because he published a stupid cartoon of their Mohammad -how intolerant is that?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pmOh, and Ray, my Pakistani DBA friend says, “I feel sorry for uninformed morons like Bolton and 10fingersaday, they don’t know any Muslims, so they talk from the position of ignorance”…
April 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm10hourday Says:
Nothing wrong with reaching out and starting a dialog. But the next question should be why are Muslims at war with everyone that is not a Muslim? I think the Muslims have some reaching out to do also and not just to America. Their intolerance of others needs to be examined.
Most sane people would compare those within the Muslim faith who exploit and contort the message of Islam with our version here in America: The Christian Taliban. Both cults are a small number within a greater universe of folks who adhere to the teachings and try and follow those teachings throughout their lives. A small sub-set of fanatics are both the Muslim AND the American Taliban. They are of the same mindset, but also do not speak for the greater universe of spiritual followers. They are nutjobs (Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc…)
April 7th, 2009 at 4:21 pmA day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer -
And a day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a father gunning down his five children cause his wife is leaving him for another man.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pmLet’s kill all the fathers!
We need some new rules for this spaceship called earth we all exist upon.
Rule #1: CO-EXIST!!!
Rule #2: Dont demonize others
April 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm10hourday Says:
“They slaughtered a cartoonist because he published a stupid cartoon of their Mohammad -how intolerant is that?”
And we tortured a cab driver just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. How “tolerant” are cluster bombs on neighborhoods?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm10hourday Says:
tombaker -I have read up on the subject and I read the international news every day. A day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer -in the following conflicts: Sudan, Kashmir, Congo, Ivory Coast, New Caledonia, Sarajevo, Chechnya… then there is the Sunni-Shiite conflict where they are killing each other over an interpretation of their religion. They slaughtered a cartoonist because he published a stupid cartoon of their Mohammad -how intolerant is that?
“They” are well over a billion people, and only a tiny fraction are “killing” nonbelievers. And, furthermore, most of your examples above have economic, political or cultural elements that have nothing to do with religion.
“They” didn’t slaughter a cartoonist. Someone did, yes, but hardly 1.2 billion people.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:23 pm10hourday Says:
tombaker -I have read up on the subject and I read the international news every day. A day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer
April 7th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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I, too, have read up on the subject and I read the national news every day. A day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Christian killing somebody, either.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:24 pm10hourday Says:
A day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer…
….so, you don’t read American papers, where a day does not go by with some Christian killing anybody they can aim a gun at?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pmA day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer -in the following conflicts: Sudan, Kashmir, Congo, Ivory Coast, New Caledonia, Sarajevo, Chechnya… then there is the Sunni-Shiite conflict where they are killing each other over an interpretation of their religion.
Its more of a tribal issue than religious issue. Yet they are also demonizing one another.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:26 pmThe one thing common among all believers is that they feel their particular ‘God’ is superior to all others. Mine is bigger tna yours. His is bigger and stronger than hers. It sounds like a playground fight over a swing. Until we know for sure God exists – in whatever form – nobody should presume theirs is the best one out there. God may be a rumor, for all we know.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:29 pmA country != A religion. What sort of outreach can a belief system have?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pmStratRat, I have a reputable source that insitsts God isn’t a rumor, just a myth.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:33 pminsitsts? Got Englitch?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:34 pm“Nothing wrong with reaching out and starting a dialog”
Yes, after a 10hr winter day, a fire would not only be not- wrong, it would be cozy.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pmShorter wingnut neo con brigade…WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
They know Obama is well received and respected all over the world, and they cannot stand it. It drives them nuts that he is actually repairing the damage that BushCheney brought on our great nation.
Nothing Bolton or Krackhammer says is worth noting. All of them, all spineless cowards who have never served in the military yet they are the first people to scream for blood to be spilled. My grandma could knock out Paul Wolfowitz.
Keep crying, neo cons. You have nothing else to offer the discussion.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pmThe issue with these folks is that they do not realize popular opinion in the Muslim world is suspicious of America–there is a lot of angst (I wonder why). These arch-conservatives believe that our policy of the past eight years was one of liberation and beneficence. The rest of the world realizes the fallacy of that position, and the president is trying to offer a hand to these people over seas in order to open a dialogue with them on fair and balanced terms. Yeah, but Kristol and others like him are incapable of balanced dialogue. Krauthammer sounds as though he doesn’t read too much. Obama is a fabulous speech maker, and when he speaks, people listen.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:37 pmAnd you still can’t tell the difference between religious and political?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:39 pmA day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer -in the following conflicts: Sudan, Kashmir, Congo, Ivory Coast, New Caledonia, Sarajevo, Chechnya… then there is the Sunni-Shiite conflict where they are killing each other over an interpretation of their religion.
It wasnt that long ago that America was in a civil war.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:40 pmBeing a right-wing neocon means never having to say you’re sorry.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:41 pmdeebaser Says:
A country != A religion. What sort of outreach can a belief system have?
April 7th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
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Quite a lot, actually. Art, music, culture, and literature, to start, plus outreach in print and broadcast media by clerics and religious scholars. Oh, and through civil society participation in cross-cultural dialogue and international events.
And there have been a great many Muslims who have used all of these methods to decry acts of violence and intolerance committed in their name, as have a great many peace-minded Christians and Jews. The sad fact is that these outreach efforts – particularly ones undertaken by Muslims, are ignored in Western media, hence the widespread perception that they don’t exist.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pmRUCeriousDragonfly Says:
StratRat, I have a reputable source that insitsts God isn’t a rumor, just a myth.
I will, of course, reserve my opinions based on the fact that if there is a God – and he/she will be waiting for me ‘up there’ – I want to keep my options (belief wise) open :)
I don’t want to piss of the almighty.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pmMurderers seldom apologize until after they are in prison.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:45 pm@52 touché toaster, touché…
April 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm=D
I just ate and watching bill kristol requires an empty stomach.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:51 pmKristol is a mystery to me as the Weekly Standard only has some 65k readers.
Yet FOX, and no other station, gives him airtime. The NYT did and there sales didnt increase.
Why does Murdoch keep putting this guy, who has been wrong so many times, on air?
April 7th, 2009 at 5:17 pm“They” didn’t slaughter a cartoonist. Someone did, yes, but hardly 1.2 billion people.
I’m sorry folks….they killed Van Goah gandson, stabbed in the street by a lone F***eD individual who happened to be motivated by the war placed on Islam. The cartoonist is still alive.
I do not belong to a religion (sorry but this mind is not for F***ing over)however, I do see there are fanatics on both sides.
Imagine a world without religion, how many wars would end or have not been started??????
Religion is a TOOL of the elite to control the masses through dependance on someone who doesn’t exist. This immage of a savior is there to help them deal with being repressed. That is the secret to religion….becuase if people followed the religions…there wouldn’t be hatred (not allowed in religion).
RELIGION IS DYING (THANK GOD…LOL)BECAUSE THE MORE INTELIGENT PEOPLE BECOME, THE MORE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT HATRED IS TOUGHT. When was the last time you saw a baby that hated?????? With all that is going on in this world, you can see that religion has done NOTHING to better man kind!!!
GREED AT A ALL TIME HIGH, KILLING AT A ALL TIME HIGH !
GOD BLESS AMERICA….YEA RIGHT…AFTER WHAT IT’S DONE OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS….US SHOULD BE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS!!
PLEASE DON’T BRING UP 9/11….IM SORRY BUT THAT WAS AN INSIDE JOB. THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT AS THE PEICES OF THE PUZZLE ARE PUT TOGETHER. WE’RE ALMOST DONE.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:19 pmThe reichwing nut cases are just plain hysterical. The hystrionics remind us of just how insecure and weak Republicans really are.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:22 pmOnly the ignorant believe that they’re always right. Only the ignorant can never apologize. Unfortunately, the GOP today is chock full of total ignorants who will never get it at all.
The Republiscum ignorants simply don’t know that they don’t know. Now that’s pretty far down the scale from ignorant to enlightened.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:24 pmJust dial 1-800-GOT-WOOD for your special Dialog!
What an idiot. As if all Muslims were bad. In other words, one imaginary sky man is OK and the other one is EEEEEVIL….
April 7th, 2009 at 5:24 pmThe idiotic/xenophobic/racist blowhard Lou Dobbs is one of the reasons that CNN is tanking in the ratings.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:25 pmWhen I see Lou Dobbs in this line-up who parades as an independent but has always been an elitist republiscum in disguise, I feel like wretching – all over him and his dye-job hair.
Lou Dobbs is a hate-filled twisted old geyser who needs to be given the pink slip so he can play with his livestock instead of parading before us and looking like an old fool. No fool like an old fool, Lou.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pmlpeggy: Like minds? Lou Dobbs IS the reason CNN is tanking. Add in Wolfie and Andie Cooper and you’re got the perfect trifecta for failure.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:26 pmAmericans are turning away from the hate mongers on CNN now in droves. CNN has been pimping us all for years and now we see it very clearly. Ban CNN from your home today.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:28 pmI will keep this as simple as I can.
the war for profits folks must always have an enemy to fight.
the problem is not them but the nation that puts them into office.
simply put the problem is we americans.
the sooner we figure that out the sooner this gov represents the people.
dont hold your breath.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:30 pmHow come every white, male, Christian, neo-con pundit wants to be the reborn Judas oh so badly?
I thought these guys were supposed to be extolling the virtues of Jesus in some form or another.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:31 pmThe Right Wingnuts have never heard a grown-up speak before! They are also so full of envy, they just don’t know what to do!!
April 7th, 2009 at 5:34 pmI agree folks….CNN is dying. This boggles the mind…when the country moves left, they have to move right???? What gives….oh wait…I see…we have elected a man of the people and not a corporate pushover.
This only proves…there is a widening disconect between the reality in our lives and what is portraid in the media.
I always new it was a fantacy box, but damm…the news shouldn’t be that way. Oh I forgot…..Why was Kissinger on CNBC promoting David Rockefeller’s New World Order agenda you ask? Why did CNBC enable it?
Because CNBC is owned NBC which is which in turn headquartered in Rockefeller Center, (the same building that houses the Rockefeller Family offices)…and he is a major owner of GE – NBC’s parent – as well as Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Exxon-Mobil and countless others.
CNBC doesn’t just manipulate and control the market, it IS THE MARKET. In other words, there is no market. The thing you think is a market has long since been looted. The Madoff scheme – writ large. What remains is the illusion of a market – the digital ghost of our countryman’s life savings, massaged daily by the pimps and whores of CNBS.
So you see, until we revolt and demand the truth…all this plays into the people who created our misery!!!
April 7th, 2009 at 5:37 pmhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/06/opinion/polls/main4923710.shtml?tag=topHome;topStory
Who is Bill Kristol?
April 7th, 2009 at 5:38 pmAnd Lou Dobbs says:
“He(Obama)even declared Iran to be a great civilization”.
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Iran does not need declaration from Obama to be called a great civilization.
Iran is a great civilization in history,whether Lou Dobbs likes it or not.
Why does such statement bother Lou anyway,even when it is true…?
April 7th, 2009 at 5:42 pmLou needs to start reading some history books.
The Republican/Conservative base = “evangelical end-timers” (approx. 15% of the electoriate). Christianity, per the “end-timer” difinition is, believe as “end-timers” do or you are God’s enemy. (Not unlike extremeists of other religions.)
Conservative talking heads, ie. Limbaugh, Beck, Dobbs, Hannity, Kristol, O’Reilly, Krauthammer, etc. and many Republican/Conservative politicians, ie. Bolton, Bachmann, Cheney, McCain, Palin, Boehner, etc. are money and/or power hungry and are willing to suck up to the “end-timer” base to get their money and/or power, even if their positions reduce America’s chances to improve.
I think the current “bunch” in power in America, increases America’s, awa the whole world’s, chances for improvement.
Those money/power mongers are simply trying to sell us (Americans) another bill of goods. I hope the people that bought into the “monger” fact munipulations in the past, have learned that the “just say no” or the “us or them” mentality doesn’s help us improve.
April 7th, 2009 at 5:58 pmRightwing heads are going to explode. Constant negativity will hopefully and eventually backfire causing even their own subdue masses to walk away. These people are inciting violence in this country.
When it comes to Pres. Obama in their eyes he’s damned no matter what. They just hate him. It’s doesn’t matter that he wants to help this country get back on track, and try to create a better ecomony to create more jobs and get people back to work. They just hate him.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:00 pmAfter 8 years of attacks on all Muslims even an American Elected Law Maker, now who’s to believe we don’t hate Muslims. We kidnapped innocent Muslims and torturd them for 7 years is that what the US calls nice. We tricked Muslims into helping in the Iraq invasion as we used them for information and to translate. Yes after we used them we turned our backs on them so they would be killed. When even our soldiers asked for help for their news friends the Bush Administration said no. Many run to other countries in fear of their lives. Some said their families were murdered for them helping the United States. American Muslims get stopped and harrassed for no reason but because their Muslim. Any sane person would know the United States of America hated Muslims, just turn on the TV or listen to Bush/Cheney or Republican Law Makers. It was fed into the US for 8 years and President Obama will have to take time to change that fact.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pmThe right wing is hysterical about almost everything. This is not news.
April 7th, 2009 at 6:55 pmI’m not seeing how the Dobbs quote is critical. It just makes a factual statement.
April 7th, 2009 at 7:30 pmThe right wing is hysterical!
April 7th, 2009 at 7:45 pmMy God the way all you liberals act on this message board is a hoot. You all seem to love jerking each other off to you’re fantasies!
April 7th, 2009 at 7:58 pmSo being America means that we are perfect. And what did Jesus say about the Pharisee who went to Temple and proclaimed his righteousness ?
I suppose America would be better now if the Blacks never gained civil rights. And don’t get me started on sufferage for women.
Dare I guess that the world would be better if the developed world still held the 3rd world as a colonial power ? And should I forget that a lot of our problems in the mid-East occur as a result of the way we divied them up after the world wars ?
April 7th, 2009 at 8:31 pmRealityCheck Says:
You all seem to love jerking each other off to you’re fantasies!
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And of course, you prefer soloing, correct?
Oh… the irony.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:25 pmThe Republicans are pulling out all the stops, and their behavior is being duely noted and it is backfiring!!!!!
In the last few polls the Republicans are loosing ground, and it is significant. The people I come in contact with that were adamantly pro Republican are having a change of heart.
These are everyday people who are worried about a list of problems. The Republicans are coming across so self absorbed they aren’t ashamed of their arrogance. I submit that the Republicans are not convincing any Democrats to change parties. On the contrary, they may be loosing their base support. Who wants to identify with this viseral bullsh#$.
They truly are behaving and speaking like a bunch of Fascists, and that is un American in my book.
President Obama is looking cool and in charge, and what is great with this country. What a contrast!!!
April 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pmThe GOP has nothing substantial to offer the American public regarding economic or foreign policy, so instead they resort to the same juvenile name-calling that failed them during the 2008 election campaign. All they can do is point their finger at Obama, sneer, and smugly proclaim “Don’t trust him. He is not one of us. He is un-American. He is a socialist….or a communist…..or a fascist…..or a Muslim…or the son of Satan.”
And their right-wing base jumps up and down and gets their blood boiling.
And the other 85% of the American public shake their heads, give a heavy sigh, and go about their business trying to help Obama make the world a healthier, safer, more economically vibrant place to live.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:29 pm10hourday says: Their intolerance of others needs to be examined.
Dear neophyte, please look up “The Arab-Israel Conflict” for clues…
Friggin idjit.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:14 amWe’ve demonized an entire group of people in this nation, based soley on what a few radical members of their fringe did.
They’ve “demonized” themselves in not having the courage to stand up to what these fringe terrorists did. They’d rather complain on how mainstream America is treating them. It makes us feel guilty.
April 8th, 2009 at 2:10 am10hourday Says:
Nothing wrong with reaching out and starting a dialog. But the next question should be why are Muslims at war with everyone that is not a Muslim? I think the Muslims have some reaching out to do also and not just to America. Their intolerance of others needs to be examined.
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Osama and the nutbag Muslims no more represent Islam than Ann Coulter and Micheal Savage represent America. Islam is NOT overall intolerant of others. Islam is NOT the problem. Nutbugs within the religion are twisting it like David Koresh and Jim Jones twisted Christianity. Muslims all over ARE reaching out. I have more than once put up links to more than fifty statements by mainstream Muslim organizations doint EXACTLY THAT.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:01 am10hourday Says:
tombaker -I have read up on the subject and I read the international news every day. A day doesn’t go by when I don’t read of a Muslim killing of a non-believer -in the following conflicts: Sudan, Kashmir, Congo, Ivory Coast, New Caledonia, Sarajevo, Chechnya… then there is the Sunni-Shiite conflict where they are killing each other over an interpretation of their religion. They slaughtered a cartoonist because he published a stupid cartoon of their Mohammad -how intolerant is that?
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You are a moron. Reading is only half of the answer UNDERSTANDING what you read would help. The Sudan is a north south civil war they have muslims FIGHTING the government which is the problem there. Chechnya is a long standing civil war with Russia and is NOT muslim in origin. Kashmir is an India Pakistan thing. You are an idiot who doesnt know what you are talking about. No one is denying there are extremist nutbags out there but that doesnt mean Islam is the problem. In the 40s the worlds most violent terrorists were Jews. They blew up the King David hotel, the Semiramis HOtel, the Cairo to Haifa railroad several times, the SS Patria, they assasinated Lord Moyne and Folke Burnadotte. No one blamed Judaism. When the IRA were the worst terrorists in the world blowing up marketplaces and stores and restaurants no one blamed Catholocism. When the Red Brigade and Eta were killing people wholesale in the 70s no one blamed secularism. NOW that the political terrorism is done by Muslims bigots like YOU want to blame Islam. Your simplemindedness is sad. It is also part of the problem.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:09 amThe Blow Hards are serving up Sour Grapes. Enjoy! Unless they incite violence they are harmless to thinking people.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:12 amRealityCheck Says:
The stupidity of you rightwing morons is as consistant as sunrise in the East. You people are plain stupid and you never fail to show you PROUD you are to be stupid
April 8th, 2009 at 4:13 amDobbs is a terrible dissapointment. I don’t think he’s going to make it through this.
April 8th, 2009 at 4:24 amcharade Says: Only the ignorant believe that they’re always right
this site contains such a plethora of liberal intellectual stimulation(not)
Iran: Two More Executions for Homosexual Conduct
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2005/11/21/iran-two-more-executions-homosexual-conduct
Obama Responds To Afghan Law That Legalizes Rape
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/04/afghan-rape-law-obama/
MAKE EVERY WOMAN WEAR A BURKHA’
http://exposingliberallies.blogspot.com/2009/03/burkhas-in-uk.html
Uproar over Talibani closing of girls’ schools in Swat Valley
http://www.france24.com/en/20090403-government-powerless-stop-taliban-closing-girls-schools-pakistan-education
Jihad is not just a cancer of the Islamic body politic – it is a vital organ’
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/778
maybe you pawns should read more these subjects are near and dear to your heart
April 8th, 2009 at 5:24 amwho really cares Says:
Maybe you are stupid and brainwashed and just believe what you are TOLD to believe. No one is saying there arent nutbags out there or that they arent a problem. I could post Savage saying he is tired of hearing there are a billion Muslims in the world and we need to kill one hundred million of them or Coulter saying we should drop daisy cutters at random through the middle east. I remember Jim Jones getting almost a thousand people to commit suicide. What does that prove? NOTHING except to bigoted morons like YOU that want to take some examples and paint the entire religion with it. You are stupid. You are a propaganda parrot. You are part of the problem. You arent telling us anything we dont already know we ALSO know that doesnt represent ONE BILLION MUSLIMS YoU MORON. IF more than ONE BILLION people were that crazy and violent the entire world would have ended already. Stop cowering like the cowardly punk you are and join us in the real world
April 8th, 2009 at 11:15 amThank God it’s only 19 months to the mid-term elections. I will enjoy basking in the crying of liberals here…when they lose the House!
April 8th, 2009 at 11:22 amRealityCheck Says:
Thank God it’s only 19 months to the mid-term elections. I will enjoy basking in the crying of liberals here…when they lose the House!
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HA thanks for the laugh. That has to be the stupidest thing I have read this week and I have read the OTHER trolls here. If you are in a contest with Hannity to see who the most ignorant carbon based lifeform in existance is you MAY give him a run for his money. I will enjoy MORE of your stupidity and delusions because I LOVE laughing at cretins as stupid as you
April 8th, 2009 at 11:28 amkassandrasduplexcommented that even though Obama said it was time to leave Iraq to the Iraqis we would still have 50k to 100k troops in Iraq until 2011. That is the date that the Iraqis set in the SOFA that all troops will leave.
No one is speculating what will happen after that date.
April 8th, 2009 at 11:38 amI think that if the majority of the troops are out by the end of 2010 as per Obama’s plan, everyone will be good with leaving the 50k or so troops in place for contingencies.
Actually it would be a waste of time to try to stir up opposition to this plan. Everyone is in agreement –
Maliki, Obama, and even Bush. And I think the right and left are in a wait and see mode.
What I want to know is how the likes of Hannity, Bolton, Kristol and Dobbs ever were allowed on the air. Are these people and the idiots they speak for really so twisted and arrogant that they cannot understand what Obama is trying to do?
I have a theory. With the exception of the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812, the United States has never had an foriegn enemy army on its soil. We nevered suffered the bombings like England did in WW II or a land invasion like Russia did. We are blessed by having oceans to the east and west and friends to the north and south. This kind of geographic and geopolitical safety has lead to the birth of an arrogant, egotistical out of touch group of people who at their core believe NOTHING can touch them (personally). If Hannity, Bolton, Kristol, Dobbs et al had family members and/or killed and mained in wars that swept across our nation you can bet your ass they would be singing a different tune. In other words the core of their idocity is that nothing has ever hurt them personally, therefore, nothing ever will. It’s ironic that thousands have died in foreign wars to prevent idiots like them from getting into positions of authority.
April 8th, 2009 at 12:02 pmCan someone please explain to me why President Obama “broke bread” with these right-wing crack-pots? SUre I understand that they would be critical of him but WTF dude??
April 8th, 2009 at 1:48 pmThese idiots don’t know the difference between Islam and Muslim.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:48 pmI don’t care about the difference between Muslim and Islam. I had a sort of friend in college who was a refugee from Iran, but he called himself a Persian. Lord help any poor slob who forgot and called him Iranian though that was indeed where he came from. He was a major league jerk. If you want to play those stupid word games it only shows how lame your brain really is.
The muslims keep saying ‘you don’t understand.’ No, I don’t. I don’t understand diving a plane full of innocent people into a building full of innocent people in the name of God. I don’t understand a people who explode bombs in market places full of women shopping for supper or who are so proud of beheading helpless hostages that they make home movies of it. I don’t understand. Thank God. Thank God.
But let’s leave the murder of non-muslims and terror attacks aside. They way you guys treat your own is enough to make Hitler grow pale. You let fundamentalist pricks roam the streets with sticks and the right to beat anyone they disagree with, especially the women. You kill each other proudly over slight differences in interpretations of scripture. You brainwash your own children in blowing themselves up. Amnesty International tells us how you treat defendants and prisoners in your prisons, especially the women. You still behead and stone and mutilate people in the name of your God. You oppress anyone with differing opinions and your armies are infamous for the rape, torture and murder of civilians whenever they get a chance.
It seems that Saddam’s torture chambers are a normal feature of arab jurisprudence.
The arguments in other comments that since the Christians did this, it justifies this is schoolground logic and insulting to grown men. I certainly agree the way the Middle East has been treated by the West for so many years is a disgrance, but it doesn’t justify anything. Hundreds of years ago when Europeans basically lived in holes in the ground the Muslim world was the bright light of civilization, wisdom and humanity for the world. This makes it even more disgraceful the way modern Muslims have turned off the light and climbed proudly into their own holes.
Of course there is a counter arguement that people like me are speaking from a bias encouraged by a manipulated media and this is probably true to some extent. I understand there are moderate, intellectual and kind Muslims, but they had better get off of their fat asses and start making noise. We are supposed to understand and forgive, but have no grounds to believe that tolerance and undertanding have anything to due with Muslim culture. We evil westerners have never sworn to wipe muslims off the face of the earth they way they have pedged to do Christians and Jews, and especially not in the name of our God. The muslims need to quit waiting to be understood and stand on their own two feet and take responsibility for themselves.
In college I married into the immigrant community and, by taking an interest, was lucky to meet people from many countries and I know any group has its own example of good men and pricks, but I have to also say, from my own personal experience, the arabs seem to produce a bumper crop of pricks, arrogant, childish and intensely racist men who take pride in beating their wives and hating Jews. They made me want to spit.
I believe that the war in Iraq is a crime. I believe that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld should be tried for crimes against humanity in the world court and tried for treason by our own congress. I am a Vietnam era vet and know that there are plenty of war criminals running free in America collecting their veterans’ benefits when they should be in prison. I know that the West has consistently and brutally sinned against againt the arab world for centuries, but this does not justify any bombing or raids.
I would like to be there when you show up before God and He learns of all the shit you’ve done in His name. There will probably be a special hole in hell for you guys, the one into which Christians and Jews piss.
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