Right-wing group tries to ‘connect the dots’ between ‘gay marriage and mass murders.’
Right-wing group tries to ‘connect the dots’ between ‘gay marriage and mass murders.’
In recent days, there has been no shortage of fear-mongering about same-sex marriage. Right-wing groups have said that marriage equality removes the “cornerstone of society” and may “destroy…democracy.” Morality in Media President Bob Peters goes even further today, linking same-sex marriage to the recent tragic uptick in mass murders:
This secular value system is also reflected in the ’sexual revolution,’ which is the driving force behind the push for ‘gay marriage;’ and the Iowa Supreme Court decision is another indication that despite all the damage this revolution has caused to children, adults, family life and society (think abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more), it continues to advance relentlessly.
It most certainly is not my intention to blame the epidemic of mass murders on the gay rights movement! It is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality; and it is the decline of morality (and the faith that so often under girds it) that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.
Warren Throckmorton writes that using the “awful situation in [Binghamton] New York to bash gays takes it to a new level of immorality in media.” David Corn has more here on Peters. (HT: Box Turtle Bulletin)
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Ignorance and bigotry, thy name is Bob Peters.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:09 pmBob Peters,
Betty Brown (R-TX) wants to talk to you about your name.
Heh.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pmI’ve got to hand it to Mr. Peters – He has discovered the absolute maximum number of ways possible to be wrong about something.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:11 pmAnd progressives get chastised for trying to connect the much bigger and bolder dots between right wing hate speech and mass murderers?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pmIn the middle east, where there has been no sexual revolution, mass murder, mostly in the form of suicide bombings, is not uncommon.
In Europe, where sexual mores are much more relaxed than they are here in America, mass murder less common than it is here.
Could it possibly be our lack of gun control, rather than sex control?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pmTeh Gheys are obviously at fault.
If they weren’t demonstrating and shit for all the marriage equality and other political correct shit, the knuckle-dragging trogs of the panty-waist Rightloon/Wacktard wouldn’t have any excuses to go on rampages protesting how disempowered they feel by committing mass murders…
makes sense to me…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pmI guess the number of mass killings is in no way proportional to the large number of guns on street. It’s got to be the GAYS!!! Except for the fact that most of the killers seem to be heterosexual men, this theory is watertight.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pmIt is much easier to make the connection of Rightwing thinking and Mass killings.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:17 pmexactly; boss is rich, but we want him/her to be rich-er, and not bothered by gay rights. damn, where’s my guns n ammo.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:17 pmOne should question the professed heterosexuality of those that are so obsessed with what other men do with their genitalia.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pmNo no no, your epidemic is Gawd’s wrath towards gay people, remember ?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pmthis may not be a bad development…
Such shrill, crazy ideology can help us fine tune a devastating response as well as shine a huge spot light on how out of touch with reality gay marriage opponents are.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pmYes, and the recent uptick in volcanic eruptions, ice shelf collapse, etc. is a direct result of the worldwide drop in swashbuckling pirate activity.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pmThe sexual revolution?
You mean the one where we stopped pretending that people don’t ever have sex unless it’s for procreation? Or the one where we decided that it doesn’t matter who you love as long as you love? Or are you referring to the idea that giving teenagers access to condoms cuts down on that unwedding mothering thing you mentioned?
I have a question for you, Mr. Peters (better look out for the suggestive name, sir). How exactly does people having sex lead to mass murder? The reduction of morality? So two people choosing to sleep with one another for whatever reason they deem appropriate is akin to slaughtering people wholesale for admittedly political reasons?
Okay, nutbar. Whatever you say.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pmRight-wing group tries to ‘connect the dots’ between ‘gay marriage and mass murders.’
— The GOP and the far Right apparently can’t fathom dealing with a basic concept to humankind: LOSING.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pm…
proud the troll’s mask has slipped to reveal…
morality in media president bob peters!
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April 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pmBut the Right is always researching new ways to be wrong, pushing the boundaries of what humans are capable of saying wrong.
You didn’t think those righty think tanks spent ALL their time generating bullshit, did you?
Nope. Some of it’s spent on research.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:23 pmPhoto Caption:
Dude, quit looking at my crotch. You’re making me want to have sex with you.
And then go mass murder some people…..
April 9th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThe emperor Justinian thought buggery caused earthquakes. This makes about as much sense.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm.
R E M E M B E R;
Morality in Media President Bob Peters thinks it moral to propagandize against a segment of our population so as to foment fear…
… Hitler gave good speeches, too!
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April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pmThat’s right Bob. Everything was much better in the good old days when women knew their place and couldn’t vote, them coloreds knew their place and stayed out of the white man’s way, miscegenation was illegal and the law was enforced by vigilantes and those pesky immigrants with their funny names (hello Betty Brownshirt!) stayed amongst their own kind in ghettos. Why don’t you go find someplace that reminds you of the intolerant good old days. This country moved on.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm.
If I’m a threat to ‘Morality in Media’ President, Bob Peters’ marriage, it’s only because he’s in the closet!
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April 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pmI’m one of those kooky liberal types that believe mass murders are caused by mass murderers. Must be that liberal education I received as a child.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pmGee, Mr. Peters, did someone wake up from his nap with a wet spot in his crotch? Or did you just get kicked there?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:28 pm…sexual revolution has caused to children, adults, family life and society (think abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more..
I have news for Mr. Peters. All the above were around before the so-called “sexual revolution”. They were just hidden really well. I would rather have them see the light of day than to continue being hidden. That way we can help where we can.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pmTurn on any channel tonight and count how many people are killed in each tv show. Then count how many are having sex. Just for fun count how many of both are by/with gay(s).
I don’t believe the numbers will support Peter’s theory.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pmMorality in Media President Bob Peters goes even further today, linking same-sex marriage to the recent tragic uptick in mass murders:
Hey Bob, notice the number of your brethren that are going out and buying (and using) guns? I’m just sayin’.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:32 pmLinking Homosexuality to Mass Murder is certainly in a new league of it’s own, but I also love it when they try to link Homosexuality to divorce when it’s the oppression of Homosexuality that has a direct link to divorce. With homosexuals oppressing their own feelings and get married because that’s what they’re “supposed” to do… have some kids like they’re “supposed” to, then realizing that this is not who they are.
It is important to allow people to be honest with themselves and allow them to act accordingly. Any other way of life will eventually lead down a path of destruction.
What they don’t get is that all of their talk of “immorality” just proves how puritanical this country still is compared to the rest of the world.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pmBob,
Your body language is screaming, “HELP! HELP! I’M REPRESSED!!”
April 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pmHere’s a little math edu-ma-cation for those that need it.
“Inversely proportional” means that an increase in one property or variable leads to the decrease in another variable. For example, one could argue that the success of the Democrats is inversely proportional to the happiness of conservative pundits: as the Democrats are more and more successful, the pundits become less and less happy.
Therefore the quote “the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality” means the following: as the sexual revolution and gay marriage succeeds more and more, there is LESS of a decline in morality.
In other words, you are telling us that there is more morality as gay marriage succeeds more and more.
You fail at math for the day, Mr. Peters. Please see me after class and we can assign a tutor for you.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pmHow about connecting the dots between Beck spewing his crap on Fox and rightwing nuts with guns comitting murders. I call Fox (1-888-369-4762) about every two weeks and tell them how dangerous Beck,Hannity,and Oriell`y are, they never respond to my concerns.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:35 pmRalph – I’ve got to respectfully disagree on this one. I believe Mr. Peters’ kooky conjecture represents a new, universal constant – a sort of Avagadro’s Number of wrong. Others will attain it, no doubt, and many will aspire to it, but I don’t believe it can be surpassed.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pmIt is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality;
If A is inversely proportional to B, then when A goes up, B goes down. What Mr. Peters is saying is that as the sexual revolution “succeeds”, the decline in morality goes down, which would mean that morality goes up. Wouldn’t it? Doesn’t he mean to say “the success of the sexual revolution is directly proportional to the decline in morality”? Or that “the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to morality”? What he actually said seems to suggest that the more sex we have, the more moral we get.
and it is the decline of morality (and the faith that so often under girds it) that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.
I don’t think faith has anything to do with the “epidemic of mass murders”. The United States has one of the most religious populations in the world, yet we have the most and worst cases of mass murder here. Put another way, countries that are way less religious than us have way fewer mass murders.
I don’t think this guy knows what he’s talking about.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pmBob Peters sounds a hell of a lot like bitblt. Same level of incoherence, as well.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pmThere are no limits to the destruction teh gay can achieve!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pmIf those pious pricks could get laid occasionally, they wouldn’t be wound so tight.
Relax, have yourself a nice orgasm. Try it, you might find you like it.
In the meantime, shove your morality up your ass.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pmThank you, Purple State. I thought what Peters said didn’t sound like what he probably meant.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pmSo guns don’t kill people, wedding kill people.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
What he actually said seems to suggest that the more sex we have, the more moral we get.
Great minds think alike. Now we know why the conservative base was so opposed to scientific thought.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pmLook at him, gay or straight he couldn’t get laid.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pmRight-wing group tries to ‘connect the dots’ between ‘gay marriage and mass murders.’
Please allow me to help you. Mass murders are the result of mass hatred and bigotry inflamed by fear mongers and experts in the art of blame.
The ReichWing flames the fires of fear and Gay Rights is currently in the sites of their scope rifles. They are now advocating “armed revolution” and “tea party protests”. We have recently seen a boon in gun and ammo sales, followed by mass killings.
There, Mr. Peters, is your direct connection.
PEACE
April 9th, 2009 at 2:40 pmabortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more
These things have been in evidence for over 1000 years. What an assclown.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pmSo marriage equality may destroy democracy.
Never mind that in ancient Greece (sort of the birthplace of democracy), they’re sexuality was quite liberal.
Of course, they didn’t have sh*tloads of automatic weapons either.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pmamazing the lengths right wingers will go to to remind us all why they keep losing elections
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pmWHAT A MUCKING FORON!!!
Hell, if it isn’t terrorism, natural disasters, and American Idol being the results of teh gays, now it’s mass murderers.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pmMe? I could play that stupid a$$ game and say that the immorality of the previous 8 years has led to mass murderers.
Or, I could be more logical and realize crime increases during recessions/depressions.
Or, I could even be more logical, and repeat what RantingTommy posted: mass murderers are caused by mass murderers. Nothing more.
To equate the sexual revolution (geez, didn’t that end in the early 70’s), which practices love and trust, to heinous crimes is stupid.
So fcking stupid, in fact, I don’t have any other thing to post, except to reiterate what I started with:
MUCKING FORON!!!
Purple State Says:
Now we know why the conservative base was so opposed to scientific thought.
You’re right. Scientific thought just gets in the way of their pre-conceived conclusions. They remind me (in a way) of Billy Crystal’s great character Fernando from SNL. Fernando liked to say, “It is better to look good than to feel good, and I…look…mah-velous!”
Well, to the right wing, it is better to sound right than to be right.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pmWell jeepers, Bob. Don’t you think it might have something to do with the fact that Reichwhiners, like you, keep making ridiculous claims that our lawful government is our enemy? That minorities are less than human? That violence is the best way to allay one’s fears?
Bob. Please accept my sincere, and respectful, invitation to give yourself a napalm enema.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pmWe shall see, tom. I respect your belief, and you may well be correct, but I have faith in the limitless ability of the Right to expand the universe of wrongness as the emptiness of their ideology becomes more exposed.
I’ve learned never to underestimate the ability of the Right to be Wrong.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:46 pmconnect..ing the dots.. lets see here .., why that’s a Rorschach ink blot of and large erect phallus
…..{heavy breathing}
– Bob Peters
April 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pmVegetables are green. Moldy food is green. Eating moldy food can make you ill. Therefore, eating vegetables will also make you ill.
Perfectly logical…..if you are under the age of 8!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pmI have to agree with one statement Mr Peters makes, “…it is the decline of morality”…”that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders”.
Of course I believe the decline of morality is illustrated in the acts of torture, invasion or foreign cuntries, corruption and graft, and all out greed that the rich and powerful of the nation commit in our name. Morality is about knowing what is right and wrong, and acting accordingly, not about how and whom you make your happy family.
Children of abusive parents grow up to be abusers…when our leaders torture, murder, lie and cheat, how can we be surprised when our fellow citizens mimic their actions on a more local level?
April 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pmDRxJapanese Beetle Says:
To equate the sexual revolution (geez, didn’t that end in the early 70’s)..
Yeah, just when I was hitting the perfect age.
I got screwed. Well, not really. I wished I got screwed, but I didn’t. I mean I did, but….aw, f*** it.
I got jobbed. And not even with a hand.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:50 pmI have always wondered how these guys put together their “logic” where they group unrelated facts and opinions together to come up with the conclusion they want.
Now, because of this picture, I know. They’ve got to squeeze their peters to make the brain short circuit.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm“Sex, sex, sex, that’s all you kids ever think about.” – Brian’s mother, Life of Brian
April 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pmgays, guns, they both start with the letter g, he must be right.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:53 pm/snark
“…abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more…”
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Ah — the “kitchen sink” approach to an argument. It doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not, let’s just link what we think is icky to everything bad.
Abortion — since accidental pregnancies are extremely rare in the gay world, and gay couples have to go to great lengths to have children, I’d say abortion and gay marriage have very little in common.
Divorce — Hmmm, OK, you might have something here. If gays are allowed to get married, then there will be more couples getting married. And more marriages will probably eventually mean more divorces.
Pornography — I think pornography will be with us whether gays get married or not. But isn’t most pornography of a heterosexual nature? I’m not into it myself — I’m just guessing here.
Rape — A heinous crime having more to do with power and violence than it does with sex. And most rapes are done by men to women. Hard to connect this to gay marriage.
Sexual abuse of children — oh, come on. The conflation of homosexuality and pedophilia has been debunked for some time.
Sexually transmitted diseases — more to do with promiscuity than homosexuality. And gay marriage is about committed monogamy (as straight marriage is). I would think the righties would want to get behind a concept like that.
Trafficking in women and children — it’s tough to imagine gay males trafficking in women. What would be the appeal? And if there are powerful lesbian crime rings engaging in this activity, I haven’t heard about them yet.
Unwed teen mothers — I really think most unwed teen mothers got that way through heterosexual activity.
OH, BUT WAIT! Even Peters realizes he can’t DIRECTLY connect gay marriage to all the evils he described. This is where the “connect-the-dots” idea comes in. He had to invent some kind of intermediate concept — “SEXUAL REVOLUTION” — and tie both gay marriage and his laundry list of societal ills to that. Of course, he gives no definition for “sexual revolution”, preferring to leave it as a concept that sounds vaguely evil so he can tack everything else to it. The reader is then supposed to infer that everything he has mentioned is related to everything else.
Finally, he needs to connect all this to mass murders. Which he does by claiming that as the “sexual revolution” goes up (meaning gay marriage), morality goes down, and as morality goes down, mass murders go up. Simple as the Gordian Knot.
I propose to Peters an alternate set of logic, and mine is lot simpler. Cell phone use has increased, and so have mass murders. Therefore the two are connected, don’t you see?
Hey — my theory makes just as much sense!
April 9th, 2009 at 2:54 pmMy, my..I’m so emabarrased. Please excuse my ypos in #51. I MEANT invasion OF foreign COUNTRIES.
I hope I didn’t offend
April 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pmSo… how do you explain that numerous other Countries(Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany) have a much more liberal view of sex, drugs and gays than the US and they have significantly lower crime rates?
COULD IT BE that despite our Country’s wealth we have one of the highest poverty levels in the industrialized world !!!!
More totally ignorant comments aimed at the brain dead right wingers.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pmPLCM(MR)
They’ve got to tweezer their peters to make the brain short circuit.
There, just had to fix that for you.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
Well, to the right wing, it is better to sound right than to be right.
I wouldn’t just apply this to the right wing. I would apply this to media in general. TV and print media does not allow time and space for logical arguments. In order to produce a viable argument, one must be educated in both side of arguments and present their findings in a scientific forum. Yelling the same thing over and over again or improvising through callers’ opinions will not make it right.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:55 pmActually, the “cornerstone of society” in the U.S. is an income. Many of those recent mass murders were committed by someone who just lost their job.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:56 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
Well said, missmolly. The right wing has not yet learned that correlation does not prove causation.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:59 pmmissmolly,
April 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm100% correct!!!
Tim McVeigh was gay…whodathunkit?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pmGolly another case of Republican projection. They continue to project their own motives onto others. It isn’t gays that are responsible for the mass murders, it is the policies and the hate Repubs spew on a daily basis. The funeral of 3 police officers by a sick individual is occuring at this moment in Pittsburgh. Those officers were murdered by an individual whose job loss was due to Repubs ruining the economy. It was due to his hate fill attitude his friend reported, that could have been a Fox New script on Hannity or that idiot Beck’s shows on any given day. It was also due to the expiration of assault weapons ban that Repubs refuse to support its renewal. This is just one glaring example.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:01 pmI hear you Ralph, and I too never cease to be amazed, but, as Wayne and Purple astutely note, when he declared the “inverse proportionality” of the phenomena, he really “rocked the wheels off that thing”.
Physicists may in fact determine that Mr. Peters proved beyond doubt the existence of multiple, parallel dimensions contained within identical regions of space and time.
If I may say so, it was “The Rhetorical Reach-Around of All Time.”
April 9th, 2009 at 3:03 pmNext they’re going to tell us that “the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders” is Obama’s teleprompter. Why does anyone give these people credibility? Because they themselves claim they have it?
This man’s opinion is meaningless because it is not based on facts. Period.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pmIt seems to me that mass murders ave risen in direct proportion to the number of Evangelicals who have entered politics. It seems to me that AIDS arrived in America about the same time that Ronnie Raygun legitimized the most extreme religious figures in our country.
Connecting dots is fun!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:08 pmHey, I got to be comment number 69! Do I win this debate?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pmOnce again its blame the victim game.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pmMorality in Media President Bob Peters goes even further today, linking same-sex marriage to the recent tragic uptick in mass murders
In today’s other news , Peters also claims abortions are responsible for piracy and the drop in those who identify themselves as Christians …….
April 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pmBTW
What is with these religious yahoos ?
You couldn’t hand-pick a more stupid looking fu(king squid than this Peters turd ………….
April 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm2008 per capita murder rates by country:
United States – #24 with 0.042802 per 1,000 people,
Canada – #44 with 0.0149063 per 1,000 people, almost one-third the rate in the U.S.
Canada – On July 20, 2005, Canada became the fourth country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage nationwide with the enactment of the Civil Marriage Act.
U.S. – guns and homophobic, ignorant & alarmist behavior saturate the country.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
Hey, I got to be comment number 69! Do I win this debate?
Unless you want to be number 77. Because then you get “ate” more!
**Ba dump bump, ching**
Thank you. Thank you very much. Try the veal.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pmSo Harvey Fierstein is the antichrist?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pmIs this all these people do? Sit around and figure out new reasons to hate, bully and blame groups x, y and z?
Bullying new democrats with “attack squads,” legislating religious dogma into secular law, stripping gays of the rights to marry, calls to “take back the country” from the evil liberals…
They hate gays, liberals, feminists, women (when they misbehave and won’t submit), non-christians, europeans, mexicans…
It must seriously suck to wake up every morning and have to go out into a world surrounded by people you hate and blame for everything.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pmMan, I’d love to have missmolly debate on any of the right wing programs.
She’d shred O’Rally to pieces, without ever having to raise her voice.
I guess facts do have a liberal bias.
Good show, missmolly!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:23 pmSo if TEH GAYS were to stay in the closet, there would be no mass murders and all these people would have still been alive?
Are you f’ing serious?!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pmSorry, I was directing my anger at Peters, not Warren.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pmso, essentially what this assclown is saying is conservatives not only become whiny beyotches when they don’t get their way, they also get violent?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pmI can promise this.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pmIf my church propagates this bull$hit, or in anyway tries to justify what Mr. Peters (heh!) is conveying, I am literally walking out on the spot, and finding a new church.
It seems like the eight years under the guise of leadership during the Bush Admin a pandora’s box has been opened. I don’t recall this type of fear mongering before Bush. It’s like he and his peeps tapped into this fear and hate and attached God and morality to it. And thanks to Fox and the rise of the religious right it’s getting worse. These people are bat shit crazy. How can you possibly come up with this crap? It’s irrational and mean and stupid and pathetic! Wasn’t it Falwell who blamed 9/11 on Feminist’s, Gays and Abortionist? WOW! Who pissed in their wheaties?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pmRight-wing group tries to ‘connect the dots’ between ‘gay marriage and mass murders.’
Now this is getting ridiculous….
Bush is responsible for the culture of killing.
Most are seeing by now GOP represent a large group of perverts, adulterers, those using porn and prostitutes.
What I can not understand is how they have the nerve to blame their perversions on others as an attack.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pmhas bob peters issued a public statement regarding o’lielly’s stalking journalism methods? they seem pretty amoral to me.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pmI’m no expert on mass murderers but my recollection is that they are generally repressed individuals reacting to childhood traumas of abuse or excessive control. My guess is it wasn’t a ‘lack of morals’ that triggered them but more an overly aggressive response to an excess of morals.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIs it just me, or does it seem that frustration with the collapsed economy, exposure to inflammatory rhetoric, and over-medication are more relevant factors in the recent spate of mass murders than gay marriage is?
Bob Peters needs to get together with Fred Phelps. They appear to see eye to eye.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm“gays” and “guns” share two letters in each word, I suppose that’s why he is so confused.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pmOr, as a gay friend of mine would say when doing my hair, Glamour and Agony have several of the same letters!
Dragonflies like 77, which is 69 and 8 more;)
April 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pmAnd what is the moral difference between a mass murderer and someone who, from a position of dubious authority, makes statements to incite hate and distrust to a large audience of impressionable people who might, for whatever retarded reason, believe the lies?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pmDRxJapanese Beetle Says:
What’s that saying about insect brains again? From tiny minds great wisdom, no – oh how does that go now.
Sometimes dragonflies are slow posters:)
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pmThe sexual revolution is also responsible for the drug war on the southern border thats killing lots of people
/snark
April 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pmNo one has proposed a constitutional amendment to ban the things Peters is complaining about.
And as for the “sexual revolution”, heterosexual having premarital sex is the opposite of gay getting married.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pmLove at first sight…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pmCan these guys give us the year (or years) where there were no rapes, murders, or unwed pregnancies anywhere? That would be swell.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pmThe sexual revolution. As with most things these days, if you take the (R) out of it, it makes much more sense.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pmThis secular value system is also reflected in the ’sexual revolution,’ which is the driving force behind the push for ‘gay marriage;’ and the Iowa Supreme Court decision is another indication that despite all the damage this revolution has caused to children, adults, family life and society (think abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more), it continues to advance relentlessly.
And yet, ‘ol Bob has missed the biggest ‘dot’ of all:
*drumroll*
Heterosexuals!
Yes, that’s right. Without all those immoral heterosexuals having homosexual children, we wouldn’t be facing this crisis now. If those relentlessly advancing heteros had kept it in their pants instead of flagrantly banging their wives and flaunting ‘proof’ of their deeds by parading their children in public, we, as a society, would still be a nation of God-fearing, missionary-position (but only once a year) missionaries.
Heterosexuals have led us to ruin! Lettuce spray…
April 9th, 2009 at 3:47 pmWell, teh gays and their marriages may have caused numerous mass murders, but they have done wonders for Wall Street, no?
April 9th, 2009 at 3:51 pmI seem to remember a whole lotta hating going on during Clinton’s era.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:52 pmWhat would Jesus do? Well, based soley on their Christian actions, it must be safe to assume that he would lie, fear monger, and alienate people just like they are.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pmI think what’s seriously wrong with this position is that there are families, and friends, grieving as we speak, because some madman couldn’t take his pathetic life, and unfortunately had to extinguish others before he took his own.
April 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pmThese families and friends are looking for support, for condolences, for sympathy, for love.
And this idiot, a (c)hristian no less, basically says (and I’m paraphrasing here) “Welp, if these damn gays and their damn rush to be married, didn’t force feed their damn immoral agenda down our throats (heh!), this never would have happened.”
Yeah, that’s much more sympathetic than actually showing love and offering prayer and support for the families loss!
You can telephone, you can telegraph, but you can’t teleman anything, especially if he is a Republican troll.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:01 pmPossible motivation for the mass murders of 3 Pittsburgh police officers:
Police Chief Nate Harper said the motive for the shooting was unclear, but friends of the gunman said that he recently had been upset about losing his job and feared that the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.
Oddly enough, no mention of teh gays.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pmSo Mr. Peters (heh!), how about talking about the real cause of effect???
I just sent the following email to dear Mr. Peters:
Dear Mr. Peters:
I came across this quotation from you:
This secular value system is also reflected in the ’sexual revolution,’ which is the driving force behind the push for ‘gay marriage;’ and the Iowa Supreme Court decision is another indication that despite all the damage this revolution has caused to children, adults, family life and society (think abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more), it continues to advance relentlessly.
It most certainly is not my intention to blame the epidemic of mass murders on the gay rights movement! It is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality; and it is the decline of morality (and the faith that so often under girds it) that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.
And I just wanted to say that you, sir, are a dangerous bigot and an unmitigated HORSE’S ASS.
Why don’t you and other haters like you ever place the blame for the “epidemic of mass murders” on whom it belongs: radical rightwingers like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bernard Goldberg and Rush Limbaugh – unashamed traitors to America who every day pour words of violence into the ears of their unthinking followers, exhorting them to buy guns, to arm themselves “before Obama takes their guns away,” to shoot and kill liberals — and other loads of dangerous and seditious lunacy…??
You really are an assh*le, and you need to shut up. You disgust me.
~A
Here is the email address: mim@moralityinmedia.org
I urge you all to let this idiot know that we recognize his idiocy for what it is.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pmOh Damn. I almost want to call in to my night job just so I can hang out with whatever lunatics show up this evening to support this idiocy. Can you all promise to keep chumming them till I get in around midnight to set the hook? Actually feel free to land them yourselves. Just gut and gill em and leave them on the deck. I’ll fillet them when I get in…
April 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pmHoodathunktick,
‘Scuse me? I’m just saying these same right wing haters where dog-piling on Clinton, avoiding real issues much in the same way they are with Obama. I remember them hating on Carter back in the day too.
The right wing are just sore losers and bad sports. If they can’t win they will upset the checkerboard and walk away from the game.
They are incorrigible children.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pmTeleman, if I misunderstood your post (and I think I did), my apologies.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:34 pmTeleMan Says: The right wing are just sore losers and bad sports. If they can’t win they will upset the checkerboard and walk away from the game.
Because they exploit secular democracy just as religious extremists exploit peaceful religions. They have no respect for the system itself (as you see when they “lose”), only in it’s usefulness in projecting their personal ideologies.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pmNo prob.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pmblogenfreude Says:
The emperor Justinian thought buggery caused earthquakes. This makes about as much sense.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
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Which is true, but only if you’re having sex with A’Tuin or one of the four elephants.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:49 pmSex with elephants? Isn’t that a Republican initiation?
April 9th, 2009 at 4:51 pm“Magumbo”
April 9th, 2009 at 5:06 pmIt is my intention to point out that the success of the sexual revolution is inversely proportional to the decline in morality; and it is the decline of morality (and the faith that so often under girds it) that is the underlying cause of our modern day epidemic of mass murders.
Tim McVeigh was a very moral man. So was Jim Jones.
April 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pmBob Peters is in the closet, he’s afraid of being outed just like, Viagra poppin Rush and the rest of the far right-wing psychos.
And to Peters because of the passage of same-sex marriage in Iowa, Vermont and DC and the fight for Prop 8 in Cali caused these murders which in turn caused Bristol Palin to go out and have sex who bared a child out of wed-lock or kids like her?
Peters, Morality in Media is funded by Bush’s Faith-Based Initiatives. These dots have been connected.
Peters you imbecile, the below mass killings all happen within the first days 9 days of April and had nothing to do with same-sex marraige?
* April 6, 2009: Kevin Garner, 45, shot and killed his wife, his daughter, his sister, his nephew, and himself in Priceville, Ala.
* April 4, 2009: Richard Paplowski, 22, shot and killed three police officers and injured two in Pittsburgh, Pa.
* April 4, 2009: James Harrison, 23, shot and killed his five children and himself near Tacoma, Wash.
* April 3, 2009: Jiverly Wong, 43, shot and killed 13 people and then himself and injured four in Binghamton, NY.
http://www.keloland.com/custompages/kelolandblogs/northernvalleybeacon/?c=3114
April 9th, 2009 at 5:39 pmBob Peters … Mr. “Morality”. His Board of Directors probably include that diaper Senator from LA who loves hookers, or maybe even that crystal meth addict preacher (what was his name?), or even former Senator Craig, or hey … even Mr. Marriage himself Newt!
April 9th, 2009 at 5:40 pmThis secular value system that Peters so criticized was written into the Constitution by our Founding Fathers. Why does Peters hate our Founding Fathers? All Peters needs to do is to read the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution. I guess that is asking too much.
April 9th, 2009 at 6:46 pm“… that despite all the damage this revolution has caused to children, adults, family life and society (think abortion, divorce, pornography, rape, sexual abuse of children, sexually transmitted diseases, trafficking in women and children, unwed teen mothers and more), it continues to advance relentlessly.”
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One could easily come to the conclusion the speaker was referring to the Republican Party and conservative politics…
April 9th, 2009 at 9:08 pmThere is a connection between mass murders and gay rights.
The same people engaged in the fear mongering which created the upsurge in gun sales, and the attacks on liberals and democrats as the cause of the country’s problems (not unlike the Nazi’s attacks on Jews), are the same people screaming against gay rights and gay marriage.
Cause and effect.
April 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pmMan those right wingers are chickenshit. Any little challenge or differing opinion and they crap their jeans thinking that their customs, culture, society, religion, political platform, morality and beliefs will shatter like the glass animals in Tennessee William’s menagerie. If they and their notions are so frail they’ll never survive anyway and maybe the Right should all get together in Texas or one of those compounds in Idaho and drink poisoned kool-aid just before that big white spaceship shows up with their pasty god waving from the cockpit.
April 9th, 2009 at 11:57 pmPeople lose their “faith” because the practitioners of the faith themselves have either corrupted their values to meet selfish fame/monetary demands or *shock* people just don’t need to listen to how looking at another person is a ticket to hell and damnation.
People don’t need to be reigned in by faith to have values that are perfectly fine and acceptable. But it is the God-fearing a-holes who claim a God in the sky above us will cure you by a magic, invisible touch. You just need to obey and sit straight on the day or days/nights to attend.
If that isn’t hypocrisy and a road toward a new fascist Nazi Germany, I don’t know what is.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:55 amWhy hasn’t any of these right wing groups addressed the republican intertwining with the Gay?
Remember Mark Foley of Florida?
What of larry Craig? Maybe if he was able to have a smae sex marraige he wouldn’t have been in a public restroom in an airport looking for LOVE?
And pushing out Diaper Dave Vitter would be morally sterling as Newt Gingrich pushing impeachment of Clinton while having his own intern affair?
You know, the santity of marraige?!
April 10th, 2009 at 3:21 amRobot Ssys:
“Why hasn’t any of these right wing groups addressed the republican intertwining with the Gay?”…
….because we haven’t caught Mitch McConnell in a bathroom yet? And Dennis Hastert probably has conflicting issues?
And Mr. Mark Foley was to moderate.
April 10th, 2009 at 7:29 amIt is evident to me that these stridently outspoken practitioners of the Christian faith are merely sinners that have been “forgiven”, but not necessarily sinless. Christians that oppose gay marriage should live more of a “Christ like” existence rather than a “holier than thou” one.
April 10th, 2009 at 9:00 amIf the success of the sexual revolution is INVERSELY proportional to a DECLINE in morality (like Peters says), it follows that it is also DIRECTLY proportional to an INCREASE in morality. In other words…as sex increases, decline in morality decreases, and because saying that a decline decreases is a teeny bit redundant (and also because 2 negatives make a positive), it can be simplified to state that Bob Peters believes that the success of the sexual revolution has contributed to an increase in morality. Sweet! Not that an increase in morality is a concept with much meaning anyway, but it is probably better to say something meaningless than to try and blame society’s issues on sex.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pmI find it sad that Mr. Peters distress at secretly wanting to suck dicks makes him so mean.
April 11th, 2009 at 8:46 pm