Bush officials: After Iraq invasion, Europeans hid Iran intel because they feared a U.S. attack.
Bush officials: After Iraq invasion, Europeans hid Iran intel because they feared a U.S. attack.
Today in an email to Fox News, David Wurmser, former top aide to Vice President Cheney, cautioned the Obama administration on its hopes that Russia is willing to get tougher on Iran regarding its nuclear program. Wurmser said that between 2003 and 2006, Russia “threatened tough action, but even somewhat delivered.” But in a twist of logic, Wurmser basically says that it was the U.S. invasion of Iraq that led to less cooperation on Iran’s nuclear program from Russia and other European countries:
But the American-led invasion of Iraq complicated the Bush administration’s efforts to persuade other countries to take aggressive action to contain Iran’s nuclear threat. [...]
“Every time in this period I landed in a European capital at [U.N. Ambassador] John Bolton’s request to discuss Iran, the first thing I got was: ‘What is your end game here; are you going to use the information to pull another Iraq? Tell us where you are going with this before we tell you how much we will admit Iran is going down the path to a bomb in the U.N.’ When I failed to give them a guarantee that we will not strike Iran, they stalled on moving ahead with acknowledging or using the evidence in public which in private they accepted.”
Bolton also indicated that the Iraq war stifled progress with Iran. “Before the Iraq war, I thought we were breaking through to [the Russians],” Bolton said today. “Since 2003, they have been very resistant to the idea that Iran was a proliferation threat.”
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yet more proof that the disasterous policies of 43 made us LESS safe as a nation
April 10th, 2009 at 3:36 pmLet me see if I understand this right. Our invasion of one country undermined our invasion of another country?
Whew, saved us from becoming Invasions-R-Us.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:39 pmBut, but but, they RESPECTED us and loved us and only hated us for our freedoms. We were LIBERATORS, we want the flowers at our feet. Herr Bush MUST be vindicated!!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 3:40 pmThank goodness our new President doesn’t buy into the We-Be-War idea.
Providing he gets out of the Middle East.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:41 pmder….
April 10th, 2009 at 3:43 pmAfter the “Curveball” fiasco, it’s a wonder our European allies are willing to share intel at all.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:47 pmOur allies realized we had a fruitcake in charge.
Friends don’t let friends start wars.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:48 pmBooger and Lavar LaTrelle have yet to be heard from on this matter.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:48 pmWell Duh! Isn’t that what the Progressives have been saying for the past six years. Invading Iraq only made matters worse and further undermined the safety and security of the US.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pmDavid Wurmser didn’t get the memo. Cheney has been working with Iran since 2000 as Halliburton is doing business with Iran. We also now know Iran held some of the US detainees for the Bush Administration as we now know about the Secret Prisons. Yes Iran and Syria worked well with the Bush Administration as American were told by Bush that Iran/Syria were the Axis of Evil. We were made fools of and Cheney is still laughing at how easy it was. Yes with the help of the Media and the Press it worked very well. Now the good news is the Americans now being held in Iran for spying for the US are being treated great not like the US treated those we held in Gitmo. Wonder which country is the real Axis of Evil? Iran isn’t torturing US detainees while the US tortures/rape/murders detainees.
April 10th, 2009 at 3:56 pmWorm-ser wasn’t able to get another “yellowcake” piece of intel from our Allies after the “mobile weapons labs” and “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” fiasco?
Boy, Bolton the Walrus and little Billy Kristol must have been PISSED.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:01 pmWell, that is as close as reichwingers will ever get to admitting Bush’s misguided policies actually made the US less safe and not more, as they have always claimed.
If this is not Perino’s “proof” that the Bush administration alienated people around the world (put forth by one of her fellow reichwingers, no less!), nothing is.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pmLet History judge!
*History being the time after America repels an Alien invasion using the resources that were plundered under Dick Cheney’s rule.
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April 10th, 2009 at 4:05 pmI’m glad someone did something to keep the Neocon cabal in check – Lord knows the 2 branches of Government we rely on to serve that purpose were asleep at their switches.
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April 10th, 2009 at 4:21 pmYet another confirmation that members of the Bush administration weren’t just shortsighted in not thinking of the ramifications of their actions, they were BLIND and arrogant. They felt superior to our traditional allies, such as France and Germany, and instead of listening to their cautionary messages, demonized them. Remember Freedom Fries?
April 10th, 2009 at 4:22 pmit is sad that the previous administration totally bankrupt our credibility in the world platform. Lies about the WMD and BUSH’s quick action on Iraq without even verifying the validity of the truth to this matter. Further fueling that sentiment, was obviously the greed presented by Wall Street that not only suck a lot of people’s pension here in the United States, but also many around the world.
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April 10th, 2009 at 4:38 pmLet me get this straight. Do they mean to say if not for the Iraq screw up, they would have gotten Iran policy correct, that is before Europe and the rest of the world wouldn’t trust them? woulda, coulda, shoulda!
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April 10th, 2009 at 4:47 pmSo…in a backhand kinda way it’s a good thing they screwed up in Iraq? At least they were prevented from making Iran a shambles as well…even though they did sneak across the border and conduct their clandestine ops.
Whatever…none of it is acceptable.
April 10th, 2009 at 4:48 pmWhen I failed to give them a guarantee that we will not strike Iran, they stalled on moving ahead with acknowledging or using the evidence in public which in private they accepted.”
Accepted what? What evidence? US intelligence had determined Iran had halted nuclear weapon development in 2003–but that finding was suppressed by the Bush administration.
Wurmser was and is a proponent of preemptive war.
Daily Telegraph Oct 5, 2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1565236/US-hawk-David-Wurmser-plotted-Iran-war.html
Of course the Europeans weren’t going to give Wurmser and his boss, Joh Bolton, any intelligence on Iran–they’re past intelligence had already been characterized by Bush to justify the Iraq invasion, soso why should they trust the US on Iran intellgience? If they thought Iran was a threat they’d have been only to happy to hand over the info and let the US do the dirty work.
But clearly they agreed (without knowing it of course) with the suppressed US intelligence estimate that Iran had no functioning nuclear weapons program. Wurmser was just looking for outside sources that he could exaggerate and thus pretend, again that the ‘evidence’ was verified and ‘independent’.
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April 10th, 2009 at 4:58 pmIt sounds to me as though Wurmser is trying to plant the seed that the Europeans agreed with Bolton and the other neocons, but, that they just didn’t want to play along.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:02 pmWasn’t the evidence that there was a nuclear program based on a smoking laptop?
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April 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pmwiley Says:
Wasn’t the evidence that there was a nuclear program based on a smoking laptop?
Could be, depends on what it was smoking.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pmWAH! We didn’t get to invade more countries. WAH!!!!!!!!! We didn’t get to invade more countries. WAH!!!!!!!! We…
April 10th, 2009 at 5:41 pmJust a bit of advice for Wormser: if you’re going abroad, and hoping to get cooperation on something or other — never, never, never mention the name John Bolton.
April 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pmRepubliCons = Liars.
April 10th, 2009 at 6:45 pmGolly, I cannot imagine why the Russians would not want the US to control Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. I guess it just proves how evil Russia is! [snark]
April 10th, 2009 at 7:16 pmIt certainly appears that “moving ahead” on Iran involved military action in the eyes of Wurmser and Bolton. These guys were surprised at Europe’s desire to know our full intentions, i.e. Invasion v. Bombing, etc. In Iran? I guess they felt that their sterling track record w/pre-emptive military action in Iraq gave them the benefit of the doubt in these matters.
Interestingly, Dana Perino was just on C-Span stating that she thinks the belief that Europe mistrusted and harbored resentment for the U.S. is overblown and not grounded in fact. Again more inconsistency from this Administration. It is a job in and of itself trying to keep track of this Administration’s public untruths and mischaracterizations.
April 10th, 2009 at 11:40 pmThe U.S. is the only moral agent in the world. Iran needs to be stopped, and the Europeans are too busy at dhimmitude to do what needs to be done. Soon there will be nothing left to do but bomb Iran and bring about the apocalypse the Muslims preach. There can be no diplomacy when the enemy has shown they are liars, full of hate and deceit, and completely incapable of acting in good faith. If some people like to blame Bush for the Islamic insurgency in Iraq, then Obama will be guilty of the millions of murders due to his failed Iran policy.
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