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Minnesota court rules in favor of Franken over Coleman in U.S. Senate race.

After a recount that has gone on since the November election, a Minnesota court today ruled that Democrat Al Franken received more votes than Republican incumbent Norm Coleman in the state’s U.S. Senate race. Coleman has said that he plans to appeal the ruling to the state’s Supreme Court, which “could mean weeks more delay in seating Minnesota’s second senator. After a statewide recount and seven-week trial, Franken stands 312 votes ahead. Franken actually gained more votes from the election challenge than Coleman, the candidate who brought it.” Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) has said that although having just one senator is hurting the state’s residents, he supports Coleman’s appeals.



176 Responses to “Minnesota court rules in favor of Franken over Coleman in U.S. Senate race.”

  1. RealityCheck says:

    This race became a farce as soon as the recount started. So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal. Once the SC overturns all the cheating, watch the Democrats file for a new election.


  2. hwmnbn says:

    Poor Normie is running out of “hail Mary” passes. Maybe team Franken can up the ante by making Coleman pay for all their legal expenses.

    I see the end in sight….


  3. fire _ant_chavis says:

    Coleman needs to give it up and let the citizens of Minnesota have the representation that they deserve! How selfish of Coleman. This is a perfect example of how the GOP continues to fail Americans with their grandstanding, politicking, evil ways. Coleman is another face of the Grand Ole Party of Nonsense, Fake News Network, NO new ideas, No intelligence and No integrity!


  4. Witch1 says:

    Coleman and the reich as such sore loser’s..They steal election’s, rob us blind create war’s and hide until they lose a fair election then they squeal like the little pig’s they are….P.B. & J


  5. Progressive Republican says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    This race became a farce as soon as the recount started. So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal. Once the SC overturns all the cheating, watch the Democrats file for a new election.

    How come every time a democrat wins anything, the far right says they “cheated”. Are you aware that half the country actually does vote democrat? I;m far from a democrat, but I don’t make excuses when my party loses.


  6. robbez_92107 says:

    What a sore loser Norm is. First Jesse Ventura, now Senator Franken. He should be used to losing by now.

    Time to seat the guy who wrote “Rush is a big fat idiot” to the Senate.

    How’s THAT for bipartisan?


  7. Kryptik says:

    Anyone know what kind of tune Pawlenty was singing when Franken was behind and the law kicked in to request the mandatory recount? It’d be pretty embarrassing if he was echoing Coleman’s ‘Drop out now for the good of Minneosta’ line.


  8. Zooey Lepidoptera says:

    For the good of Minnesota, Coleman should take his own advice: STEP ASIDE.


  9. Chicano2nd says:

    Poor Realiy Check. Still fantasizinga about Franken stealing the race in the face of reality. How the heck does anyone do that. His banter is getting to the point of being pathological, much like Coleman’s.


  10. dbadass says:

    So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal.

    You have no idea how correct this statement is…


  11. pete says:

    As a Minnesotan who has followed the whole process closely I can say that the stupid troll’s claims of “stolen votes” is utterly ridiculous. Every single ballot has been examined by bipartisan boards and observers from both candidates. Not to mention that the whole recount was streamed live on the web.

    The only way to make a claim of stolen votes stand is to produce solid evidence that every election observer, regardless of party, is in on it and managed to produce fake video.

    Give it up, effing losers. Even Norm’s lawyers aren’t stupid enough to claim there are stolen votes. Any such idiotic claim would be instantly laughed out of the courtroom.


  12. RealityCheck says:

    Progressive Republican Says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    This race became a farce as soon as the recount started. So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal. Once the SC overturns all the cheating, watch the Democrats file for a new election.

    How come every time a democrat wins anything, the far right says they “cheated”. Are you aware that half the country actually does vote democrat? I;m far from a democrat, but I don’t make excuses when my party loses.

    You are not a republican…so quit trying to pretend to be one. Fraken has been doing widespread cheating as soon as the election was over. His people went so far as to alter votes so they can never be determined who they voted for. One percent had OVER 100% vote for him after the election results had actually been posted the first time. Stolen election again my the democRATs again.


  13. gummble-bee-itch says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    This race became a farce as soon as the recount started. So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal. Once the SC overturns all the cheating, watch the Democrats file for a new election.

    You want to put money on that?

    You need to pay more attention to reality, checks or not: it’s the Republicans that whine for a do-over, not Democrats. Of course, this might be because the Democrats are the ones winning . . .


  14. BSG Fan says:

    I just heard a loud pop, somewhere out there, Bill O’Liely’s head Exploded


  15. pete says:

    I might add that Norm has fought just as hard to open ballots he had previously challenged as he has to reject ballots he had previously accepted. And he’s lost votes at every step.


  16. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    Well my, my, the trolls want to play with each other.

    Or is it a troll playing with himself?

    What shall we call it, ProgressiveCheck or RealityRepubliscum?


  17. dbadass says:

    His people went so far as to alter votes so they can never be determined who they voted for.

    Don’t you think you ought to contact law enforcement if you have this sort of documented information?


  18. Progressive Republican says:

    You are not a republican…so quit trying to pretend to be one. Fraken has been doing widespread cheating as soon as the election was over. His people went so far as to alter votes so they can never be determined who they voted for. One percent had OVER 100% vote for him after the election results had actually been posted the first time. Stolen election again my the democRATs again.

    No, you are NOT a republican. Just a simple minded dittohead scumbag. You probably had a bad childhood so you look for a group of people to blame it on. Lets see some proof that franken cheated. Until then it’s just partisan babble.


  19. hanshiro the antlion says:

    1. RealityCheck Says: This race became a farce as soon as the recount started. So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal. Once the SC overturns all the cheating, watch the Democrats file for a new election.

    Wow, they coulda saved all this wasted time, all that examination, expertise and recounts just by asking a brainless dipsh¡t troll, realitychump, who pisses away his time posting unoriginal annoyances on a progressive blog.

    Tsk, if only we’d known…


  20. SP Biloxi says:

    Not a surprised. Give it up Norm!


  21. dixie blood says:

    Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) has said that although having just one senator is hurting the state’s residents, he supports Coleman’s appeals.

    One more a$$hole supporting party first and country second and his own state phucking third.

    Treason comes to mind…Tim…???


  22. Xisithrus says:

    If realitycheck could post something to back up his opinion it might actually become the fact his quirky imagination lied about.


  23. pete says:

    Even the stupid troll must realize that there’s a distinct possibility that Norm tried to duck a recount because of the number of votes IR (Minnesota Independent Republicans who are just provincial GOoPers) pollsters had suppressed?

    Even a most especially stupid troll must realize that no ballots have ever been in the control of either campaign to prevent the exact kind of tampering this moron is fantasizing about.

    Really. This goes past the mere regurgitation of ReichRadio crap. We have entered the make believe land of trolls.

    Look out! Amelia Earhart and the Lindbergh Baby are right behind you!! They are going to make you marry a dead farm animal!!!


  24. Rich H says:

    There will be a place for Coleman as the head of one of the Tea Parties.


  25. Xisithrus says:

    His people went so far as to alter votes so they can never be determined who they voted for -=RC=-

    You would think if that were so the courts would have given the election to Holemain.


  26. pbeeg says:

    Reality Check:
    Norm Coleman had every chance to prove Franken cheating, and couldn’t do it.
    It’s too bad he doesn’t live in trollworld, where he can prove it just by making pseudonymous posts to websites!


  27. Rodeskawler says:

    Hurry up, Al. We need you in the Senate to…uh….

    To over come a fili…. wait…Bayh…uh…Klobuchar..hmmm

    Hurry Al, Obama has an aggressive agenda to empower the peop…. uh…. well.

    Hey, why don’t you and Norm just go ahead and take this to the Supreme Court.


  28. 5th Estate says:

    http://minnesotaindependent.com/31922/supreme-court-dietzen-coleman-donor

    Minnesota Supreme Court Justice Christopher Dietzen donated twice to the campaign of Norm Coleman, Federal Election Commission records show. Dietzen’s second contribution, for $250 in 2004, went to the very “Coleman for Senator 08? re-election campaign that has pledged to appeal to the state’s high court, should an imminent election-contest court order favor rival Al Franken as expected.

    The two judges who served on the State Canvassing Board during the Franken-Coleman recount in late 2008 and early 2009 are Chief Justice Eric Magnuson and Associate Justice G. Barry Anderson. Because of the roles they played in the recount, neither participated in previous court decisions, and they won’t take part in any future cases related to the recount.

    But Dietzen has not recused himself on earlier Coleman-Franken decisions

    Another case of IOKIYAR?


  29. dbadass says:

    We will touch

    good touch or bad touch?


  30. pete says:

    Fast for three years and brighten up the World a bit, you hate-wrought freak!


  31. aquarius2 says:

    Couldn’t Pawlenty solve all this by signing the certification for Franken? I mean Pawlenty is governor of ALL of Minnestoa not just Republican Minnesota.


  32. Xisithrus says:

    Morality and ethics must be kept in that Senate seat. -=RR=-

    Why didnt you start fasting earlier when Ney, Cunningham, Foley, Delay, Newt and many others were ethically challenged…then again if you had you might have starved to death what with the (R) culture of corruption


  33. BSG Fan says:

    Oh crap RR is back, after reading that i think Im dumber.

    RR do you really thing any deity really cares about your insane ramblings.


  34. Witch1 says:

    ROFLMAO. “We will touch and”…Ah hell never mind, this numb nut wacko’s to easy ..Blessings to every one including the toucher.


  35. Progressive Republican says:

    RaptureReady Says:
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    Because of this outcome, I am fasting for 3 days, so God can move on this issue, even though I was on a fast last week. I have also called brethren in my church, who are aware of Al’s left-wing antics, to ensure that they fast for three days. We will touch and agree and be on one accord so are father can move on this situation. Morality and ethics must be kept in that Senate seat. Jesus said whether there be two or more in the midst, he would be there. DO IT, LORD!!!!

    Why don’t you set yourself on fire, I think that will do more for you cause. Now keep your religion out of politics boy, this is 2009 nobody wants to hear that sh*t. Try actually helping your country and coming up with solutions not wasting your time with thin air.


  36. Xisithrus says:

    BTW, RR, Im positive GOD can move on issues without you fasting.


  37. pete says:

    aquarius2 Says:

    That would demand that bioengineering figured out a way to provide Timmeh with a spine. Neither he, nor Norm for that matter, can concede without the direction of the RNC and related groups. As long as they obstruct the seating of Franken? The federal funding is there.


  38. dasm says:

    More proof that Repubs are spiteful, tantrum-filled trash.


  39. dbadass says:

    Can you use the doll to show the nice officer where you touched each other?


  40. judalicious says:

    As a Minnesotan, I’d like some representation along with my taxation now please. Norm knows he lost, the Republicans know he lost, and Pawlenty knows he lost. The Uptake did a great retrospective piece on the whole process, which pretty clearly lays out the ridiculous challenges coming from the Coleman campaign. http://blip.tv/file/1943664


  41. BSG Fan says:

    RR you havent been here awhile, did you get lost in the closet again?


  42. dbadass says:

    I plead the blood on that seat

    What is this middle school? Just have her tie a sweatshirt around her waste and send her to the nurse’s office…


  43. WAYNEBRO says:

    By the time they get around to seating him he’ll be up for reelection.


  44. dixie blood says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    dbadass Says:

    We will touch

    good touch or bad touch?
    April 13th, 2009 at 8:19 pm Add Karma Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

    I rebuke every demonic spirit, every sinful thought that is in you, in Jesus name. I see sin and darkness in Al Franken’s heart. He wants to tear Minnesota and America’s moral fabric. I plead the blood on that seat, IN JESUS NAME! Satan must lose his hold on that seat. That seat belongs to God.

    All of my gods can kick your Jebus a$$ in a heartbeat moron….You have the wrong god!! Try again loser!!


  45. pete says:

    Now can we report the Raptard to the FBI? I think they would be interested in a deranged freak wanting to spill blood in the U.S. Senate.


  46. Rich H says:

    RR must be on a first name basis with batshit crazy Bachmann.


  47. bonat says:

    CONGRATS TO AL FRANKEN

    Just goes to show you how Coleman and the Republicans are sore losers.


  48. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    Hello RaptureReady:

    What do you think of Dobson’s confession that they have lost the cultural war they started in the 80’s?

    How’s that scored?

    Visiting xtians 0
    Hometown sinners 1

    or

    Myth 0
    Truth 1

    RR, would you believe me if I told you that I know there were condoms in some plastic easter eggs that given to people who attended the egg roll? Gotta bring down that aids rate up there, right?


  49. Witch1 says:

    LOL.I’ve met some strange bible thumper’s in my time, non were as crazy as RR..Sick, twisted and someone to pity…Where is nurse Betty with his med’s, when we need her…Blessings


  50. 5th Estate says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Hey RR, that’s one effing lazy God you got there.
    HE could sort this out in a single smite, surely?
    HE obviously doesn’t listen to your prayers or lamentations because God knows HE’D surely do something just to shut you up.

    Or does HE ignore you because you are tempting HIM all the time with this or that call for action, this time with threats of fasting?

    Instead of fasting, you should have a barbecue instead. GOD loves barbecues—no veggies though, all meat (and Kosher hot dogs don’t count).

    Better yet, do you have a son? Threaten to throw him on the barbecue. THAT kind of devotion really impresses GOD.But you HAVE TO MEAN IT, otherwise you’ll be bearing false witness and tempting GOD and taking HIS name in vain.
    And then GOD will smite you, instead of Al Franken, and won;t you look foolish as a crispy-critter or a pillar of salt or whatever?

    It’s all in your handy guide to life and violent prejudice, The Bibble. You MUST have read it by now? Or did you just have it read to you by a preacher in a $2,000 suit?


  51. Rodeskawler says:

    This judge will recuse himself when the Vitters, Stevens’ and Craigs of the world willfully resign when they should.


  52. robbez_92107 says:

    Hey, isn’t insane Rep. Bachmann also from MN? Does her seat also belong to God?


  53. Megaloptera McWars says:

    RR,

    Fasting for 3 days, huh? Would drinking the piss in the birdbath violate the terms & conditions?


  54. pete says:

    So Daryll. The FBI, and curious people everywhere, would like to know how you intend to make the blood flow over Senator Franken’s chair.


  55. Xisithrus says:

    Rapture Ready, is a man that wears diapers and who has sex with hookers a sinner, be he democratic or republican?


  56. Xisithrus says:

    Why would heaven have gold paved streets?


  57. dbadass says:

    where the streets are paved with Gold

    Doesn’t that make for really traitorous winter driving?


  58. Xisithrus says:

    What amoral act has Franken committed RR?


  59. pete says:

    robbez_92107 Says:
    Hey, isn’t insane Rep. Bachmann also from MN?

    Yes on both counts. The good, but very naive, people of the 6th District sent Crazy Shelly to Washington.

    But, to all appearances, her seat is under the firm control of the murmuring voices in her head. Sigh…


  60. Xisithrus says:

    AMEN!!! I believe that within the next 2 years God will work on morality around Capitol Hill. I believe that many immoral people will be moved. Also, America is a Christian nation. This is God’s nation, not Government.

    Well, he had eight years under Dubya, must have been some immoral stuff going on..


  61. ralph the wonder locust says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    Because of this outcome, I am fasting for 3 days, so God can move on this issue, even though I was on a fast last week. I have also called brethren in my church, who are aware of Al’s left-wing antics, to ensure that they fast for three days. We will touch and agree and be on one accord so are father can move on this situation. Morality and ethics must be kept in that Senate seat. Jesus said whether there be two or more in the midst, he would be there. DO IT, LORD!!!!

    It’s so nice to have the old Daryll back.


  62. pete says:

    Also. A great many of the ballots which had been rejected twice, and then Norm tried to open by court action, came from Crazy Shelly’s District. He still managed to lose ground.


  63. Xisithrus says:

    The reward for living a saved and sanctified life.

    Its just yellow metal….Id much rather have orange, peach plum and pear trees, some real grass underfoot than some cold metal.


  64. mymoon says:

    Couldn’t Pawlenty solve all this by signing the certification for Franken?
    He can and he should, this has gone as far as need be, Colman wont back down, Pawlenty needs to stand up and be the man.


  65. Smith1 says:

    WAYNEBRO Says:

    By the time they get around to seating him he’ll be up for reelection.

    That’s exactly what the GOPigies want. They want to stall Sen. Franken so that he can’t vote in the Senate and mess up their pattern of obstruction.


  66. dbadass says:

    The reward for living a saved and sanctified life.

    —-
    I don’t get it. Since you don’t need any tangible wealth in heaven is the gold strrets just for the fun of watching other heaven denizens slipping and falling? Is it like the ultimate banana peal type deal? If the dtreets are gold what are the sidewalks?


  67. Xisithrus says:

    But, RR, Yeschu Notsri, he didnt have any gold.

    And those Egyptian kings buried with their gold, well it didnt go with them when they died.


  68. Marie says:

    Pawlenty is simply enabling this to go on as long as possible to the detriment of Minnesotans.
    Republicans care only for the party, not for their constituents — how many times do they have to prove it.


  69. ralph the wonder locust says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Not crazy, I am anointed. If Jesus wants me to walk around L’efant plaza and continue to circle the Senate building, while praying, I will! Lord, I ask that you restore morality and keep workers of Satan from Capitol Hill, In Jesus Name!

    Them’s some weird “good works” your God asks of His faithful, there, Daryll.


  70. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    RaptureReady, I sorry someone called you batshit crazy, but that’s not saying your sane. I object to calling batshit crazy.

    Batshit, guano more politely is highly prized as a fertilizer. That makes it useful crap, unlike you and your cult of crazies spreading your useless poop.

    Oh, unlike your crap, batshit doesn’t stink.

    Dragonflies know about bats, believe me lord jebus, hal-la-loo-ya, let me have an amen there brother, dont’t cha know, wink, wink!


  71. Megaloptera McWars says:

    So what you’re saying is, if I send Rep. Bachmann a nice email she’ll give me a tour of her chocolate factory?


  72. 5th Estate says:

    BSG Fan Says: Oh crap RR is back, after reading that i think I’m dumber. RR do you really think any deity really cares about your insane ramblings.

    He’s only tempting one deity, BSG, the one and only G.O.D. There are/is no “any deity”, just GOD (and Jesus on/in toast and other sundry foodstuffs). And obviously GOD doesn’t care about Rapture Ramblings because HE’D otherwise have DONE SOMETHING by now!

    You know who GOD loves to abandon? False prophets, that’s who!
    I’m beginning to think that GOD’s continued cold-shouldering of one of his most publicly ardent followers might actually be the best proof of HIS existence yet!
    Which would be ironic.


  73. Xisithrus says:

    A rich man cant get into heaven because its streets are paved with gold


  74. dixie blood says:

    Dear RuptureBetty,

    There are over 2000 religions on earth and growing.

    Your chances that your Jebes is the The God or The One is 1 in 2000+. It must suck being you.


  75. dbadass says:

    OT:
    Damn my keyboarding is so messed up this eve…


  76. dbadass says:

    You better get your soul right

    I have the collards and the ribs down but I just can’t seem to get the fried chicken just right… My buddy growing up mom made it just right. She thought me all I know about soul food but I still can’t make that chicken…


  77. bonat says:

    RealityCheck Says:
    This race became a farce as soon as the recount started. So many votes stolen by Fraken it’s unreal. Once the SC overturns all the cheating, watch the Democrats file for a new election.
    ————————————————————
    Perfect example of what a sore Republican loser would say. And who was the Republican that wanted to hold special election’s in Alaska that was unconstitutional?

    SC is not going to waste their time arguing this one. They will do a recount and still Franken would be the winner.


  78. pete says:

    I wonder what the Raptard would think if, by some force of divine revelation, he actually managed to process the data that Norm is a crook?

    He has sold his vote at every turn of his career. This has culminated in his hideously expensive and futile legal pissing match. All while charges, about a certain $75,000 that was transferred to his campaign under very suspicious circumstances, hang over his head.

    And the allegation that he’s using whatever leftover campaign money he had for questionable purposes. No. Norm is not a good man. And he’s weak enough to become more of a laughingstock because the RNC will bail him out. Heck! He already has a gig with a lobbying firm.


  79. the brown acid says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    If Heaven is full of morons like you…Why would anyone want to go there? The company would make Heaven..quite Hellish.


  80. the brown acid says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    False prophets go to hell Darryl. You’re pissing JAAYZUS off.


  81. Xisithrus says:

    Make a parody out of my comment. You better get your soul right, before Jesus returns. I’d rather be in Heaven with my father than in hell with satan and flames.

    It wasnt a parody, Jesus was poor and the kings couldnt take their gold with them..

    Besides money/gold is material and being materialist is not being spiritualist. I dont recall the garden of Eden having gold


  82. the brown acid says:

    RealityCheck Says:


    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW


  83. Marie says:

    Rapture Ready’s posts are so ridiculous – they can’t be for real! No one can be that dense, right?


  84. dbadass says:

    Really Rapture Ready.
    Other than slidding around on the soft metal streets all day long what the hell is there to do in Heaven that might be interesting? Are there any good ethnic restaurants, way off broadway shows? Totally freaked out gold street people? Gold Strret walkers?


  85. Xisithrus says:

    The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.

    Gold is transparent?


  86. the brown acid says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Oh please, your hands are drenched in innocent blood and your soul smells. You’ll have a bungalow in hell right next to the rest of us. See you there dipshit.


  87. 5th Estate says:

    Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says: Oh, unlike your crap, batshit doesn’t stink.

    Are you sure? Because I think that would mean you are calling Sir David Attenborough a liar, and he will kick your thorax so far down your ovipostor….I’m just warning you, that’s all!

    (and yes yes, I KNOW you personally don’t have an ovipostor).


  88. Xisithrus says:

    Are you judging my soul RR?


  89. Levi the Dungbeetle says:

    53 RaptureReady Says:

    Lord, I ask that you restore morality and keep workers of Satan from Capitol Hill, In Jesus Name!

    God has already answered this prayer, and the Republicans have been removed. Praise Jesus!


  90. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Daryll, you present yourself as knowing the Bible really well.

    Can you point out the book and passage in the Bible that includes the phrase “an idle mind is the devil’s playground” as you claimed a few months back?


  91. Xisithrus says:

    So why was the garden of eden not made of all these shiny gems?


  92. bonat says:

    Progressive Republican Says:

    “Why don’t you set yourself on fire, I think that will do more for you cause. Now keep your religion out of politics boy, this is 2009 nobody wants to hear that sh*t. Try actually helping your country and coming up with solutions not wasting your time with thin air.”
    ————————————————————–
    Your so transparent, how can you tell anyone to keep religion out of politics? Did you miss the Republicans and all of the right-wings recent memo’s, son?


  93. pete says:

    The joke will be on them when they find out that the Rapture happened in 69 AD.

    Jesus “saved” 144 hermits from the rocky caves around Jerusalem before the last major eruption of Vesuvius. After He realized that the World would keep going despite volcanoes and earthquakes and plagues and famines and wars and communists and Republicans, and finding the 144 hermits to be all the company He desired, Jesus figured He would leave Earth alone if She left Him alone.

    And the two have had nothing to do with each other ever since.


  94. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:

    Can you point out the book and passage in the Bible that includes the phrase “an idle mind is the devil’s playground” as you claimed a few months back?
    ___________

    I think you’re misunderstandering what Darryl said, ralphie.

    The actual quote was: “an empty hand is the Devil’s next date…”…


  95. dbadass says:

    “shaking off the devil” comes to mind… Maybe that is the only thing to do in heaven…


  96. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Ah yes, TRoHS… “shaking the devil off”… Daryll’s favorite leisure time activity.


  97. Rich H says:

    Reading RR reminds of a time in Boston when I used to get off the T near gov’t center. Everyday there was this guy with a bible in his hand standing on a box yelling at everyone they were going to hell and he was pretty abusive.

    He never let up and he was pretty much a nuisance. Then to counteract his “preaching” a group of Hari Krishnas set up on the opposite side of the square and they’d play their instruments, sing, and dance, and seemed pretty happy.

    In no time at all the hellfire preacher directed his scorn at them day after day. Then one day, a week or so later, I get off the T and find the Hari Krishna’s kicking the shi* out of the preacher.

    Funny stuff, seeing the orange, yellow and pick robes flying around.


  98. Levi the Dungbeetle says:

    I am disgusted at people who call themselves Christians and in the same breath support the immoral and despicable Republican Party. Christians sold their souls to Satan in their fight to protect the unborn and now they sleep with the devil in their politics.

    RaptureReady, its really simple, ask yourself, would Jesus approve of torture?


  99. 5th Estate says:

    Genesis
    1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
    1:7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
    1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    Pack your flippers, Rapture Ready, ‘cos you’ve won an eternity eating krill in the underwater resort of Heaven!


  100. Witch1 says:

    #105 TROS. it’s time I stopped drinking and reading your hilarious post’s..No more food or drink around the puter…Blessings


  101. dasm says:

    Well, duh. Franken won. Coleman lost. What’s to argue? Republicans are such whiney losers.


  102. dbadass says:

    Sorry ralph but I got there first…


  103. wiley says:

    I’d rather be in Heaven with my father than in hell with satan and flames.

    So it’s all about your reward? I prefer Sister Theresa—I’d rather be in hell at the feet of my beloved, than without him in heaven. Or something like that. At least elevating love for God and goodness above one’s own reward looks noble.


  104. pete says:

    If Heaven is as it’s advertised, Daryll’s Heaven will be a comfy apartment with a nice view of God’s feet. Our versions will be the soundproof door and sign that says,

    “DO NOT KNOCK”
    “DARYLL THINKS HE’S THE ONLY ONE HERE”


  105. Rich H says:

    Wiley #115, that’s what my wife tells me.


  106. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Witch1 Says:

    No more food or drink around the puter…Blessings
    ________

    Sorry, witch1… hope it didn’t damage yer computer. I just couldn’t stand to see poor Darryl miquoteried like that.


  107. ralph the wonder locust says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    #
    dbadass Says:

    “shaking off the devil” comes to mind… Maybe that is the only thing to do in heaven…
    April 13th, 2009 at 9:04 pm Add Karma Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

    No,we will sing in the Heavenly choir, and praise Jesus, our King

    Yeah, but I bet that will get pretty boring after the first week or so. Then you’ll be shaking the devil off to beat the band, so to speak.

    Mark my words, D.


  108. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Levi the Dungbeetle Says:

    Christians sold their souls to Satan in their fight to protect the unborn and now they sleep with the devil in their politics.
    __________

    Actually, Satan just rents a cheap motel room for an hour and leaves a $20 bill on the night stand when he’s done.


  109. dbadass says:

    RaptureReady
    Now you have told me in the past that you fly up nude. Once there does everyone stay nude? I am just wondering because I think it will be lots more fun if I am loooking at the hot naked ladies while shaking off of the devil… If there is nothing for anyone to do all day but jerk off, I might begin to understand the need for the gold streets. Must make it a lot easier to hose down the whole place every once and awhile…


  110. pete says:

    Do they have psych wards in Heaven? I’m just asking because, if the Raptard actually managed to make it to Heaven and he ran into Darwin or Ghandi or Plato? He would have to be put in restraints.


  111. Xisithrus says:

    I was reading on the book of Abraham, Daryll, and it said that Heaven was near Kolob, the center of the universe and that Earth was called Jah-oh-eh

    The J would have been a Y of course so it would have sounded much like Yah Oh Wey, some say YHWH or Yaweh others say Yehovah and stil others say Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey

    Abraham also said the Sun was called Shinehah

    And I saw the astars, that they were very great, and that one of them was nearest unto the throne of God; and there were many great ones which were near unto it;
    3 And the Lord said unto me: These are the governing ones; and the name of the great one is aKolob, because it is near unto me, for I am the Lord thy God: I have set this one to govern all those which belong to the same order as that upon which thou standest.
    4 And the Lord said unto me, by the Urim and Thummim, that Kolob was after the manner of the Lord, according to its atimes and seasons in the revolutions thereof; that one revolution was a bday unto the Lord, after his manner of reckoning, it being one thousand cyears according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest. This is the reckoning of the Lord’s dtime, according to the reckoning of Kolob.
    5 And the Lord said unto me: The planet which is the lesser light, lesser than that which is to rule the day, even the night, is above or agreater than that upon which thou standest in point of reckoning, for it moveth in order more slow; this is in order because it standeth above the earth upon which thou standest, therefore the reckoning of its time is not so many as to its number of days, and of months, and of years.
    6 And the Lord said unto me: Now, Abraham, these atwo facts exist, behold thine eyes see it; it is given unto thee to know the times of reckoning, and the set time, yea, the set time of the earth upon which thou standest, and the set time of the greater light which is set to rule the day, and the set time of the lesser light which is set to rule the night.
    7 Now the set time of the lesser light is a longer time as to its reckoning than the reckoning of the time of the earth upon which thou standest.
    8 And where these two facts exist, there shall be another fact above them, that is, there shall be another planet whose reckoning of time shall be longer still;
    9 And thus there shall be the reckoning of the time of one aplanet above another, until thou come nigh unto Kolob, which Kolob is after the reckoning of the Lord’s time; which Kolob is set nigh unto the throne of God, to govern all those planets which belong to the same border as that upon which thou standest.
    10 And it is given unto thee to know the set time of all the stars that are set to give light, until thou come near unto the throne of God.
    11 Thus I, Abraham, atalked with the Lord, face to face, as one man talketh with another; and he told me of the works which his hands had made;
    12 And he said unto me: My son, my son (and his hand was stretched out), behold I will show you all these. And he put his hand upon mine eyes, and I saw those things which his hands had made, which were many; and they multiplied before mine eyes, and I could not see the end thereof.
    13 And he said unto me: This is Shinehah, which is the sun. And he said unto me: Kokob, which is star. And he said unto me: Olea, which is the moon. And he said unto me: Kokaubeam, which signifies stars, or all the great lights, which were in the firmament of heaven.


  112. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    i know that troll and non-troll alike

    will want to join me in congratulating

    senator franken.

    :)


  113. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    Hey Rap Ready:

    I dig your gig man. Computer consultant right, gets you around town and a chance to check out some xtian group meetings to see if there’s any good looking women.

    I just know you’re silver tongued when quoting scripture and praying. Ladies like that don’t they? And you sing too? That was my gig man. My voiced just resonated down, below the heart, there in the holy of holies, spreading warmth and passion for the glory of god, for god, oh my god…. ah, amen jebus.

    I like redheads, how about you brother?


  114. wiley says:

    Consider the deafening hurricane of sound — millions and millions of voices screaming at once and millions and millions of harps gritting their teeth at the same time! I ask you: is it hideous, is it odious, is it horrible?

    Consider further: it is a praise service; a service of compliment, of flattery, of adulation! Do you ask who it is that is willing to endure this strange compliment, this insane compliment; and who not only endures it, but likes it, enjoys it, requires if, commands it? Hold your breath!

    It is God! This race’s god, I mean. He sits on his throne, attended by his four and twenty elders and some other dignitaries pertaining to his court, and looks out over his miles and miles of tempestuous worshipers, and smiles, and purrs, and nods his satisfaction northward, eastward, southward; as quaint and nave a spectacle as has yet been imagined in this universe, I take it.

    It is easy to see that the inventor of the heavens did not originate the idea, but copied it from the show-ceremonies of some sorry little sovereign State up in the back settlements of the Orient somewhere.


  115. flex says:

    Congratulations Senator Al Franken!
    He’s an intelligent, honest, common sense, Liberal Senator who won’t take any BS from the extremist Republicans. He will work hard to keep our Democracy strong, not to mention tossing in a few zingers along the way!


  116. Witch1 says:

    I forgive you TROS, the clean up was worth the humor..LOL..Blessings.P.S. funny posts all..


  117. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Let’s hope the Senate is in for a few zingers like this from Senator Franken.


  118. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:

    Hey Rap Ready:

    I dig your gig man. Computer consultant right, gets you around town and a chance to check out some xtian group meetings to see if there’s any good looking women.
    __________

    You would appear to unfamiliar w/ Darryl’s MO… apparently what truly sets his flywheel a-spinnin’ is going down to to Rio to “save” the little boys in their skin-tight Speedos…


  119. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Witch1 Says:

    I forgive you TROS, the clean up was worth the humor..LOL..Blessings.P.S. funny posts all..
    ___________

    HA!!! hear that, RR? I’m FORGIVEN!!!

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…


  120. mymoon says:

    ralph the wonder locust Says:
    Let’s hope the Senate is in for a few zingers like this from Senator Franken
    Yes let hope they are! He can sit on the senate and be funny at the same time, its what we need!


  121. Levi the Dungbeetle says:

    Imagine Al Franken filibustering.


  122. katydid says:

    Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
    RaptureReady, I sorry someone called you batshit crazy, but that’s not saying your sane. I object to calling batshit crazy.
    Batshit, guano more politely is highly prized as a fertilizer.

    but, it’s more commonly feared as the cause of histoplasmosis…

    a disease caused by a fungus… kinda like daryll…


  123. Purple State says:

    As much as I would like to comment that comedy in the Senate would be well appreciated, I do hope that Sen. Franken provides an authentic voice for the people of Minnesota. Everyone deserves a fair voice in the House and Senate, and each day this recount goes on means one less day that Minnesota is a complete state.

    As they say in them Monty Python movies, “Get ON with it!”


  124. Pachydiplax de St. Augustine says:

    5th Estate Says:

    Pachydiplax de St. Augustine Says: Oh, unlike your crap, batshit doesn’t stink.

    Are you sure? Because I think that would mean you are calling Sir David Attenborough a liar, and he will kick your thorax so far down your ovipostor….I’m just warning you, that’s all!

    (and yes yes, I KNOW you personally don’t have an ovipostor).

    But, but 5th, Dragonflies don’t have noses!

    I rest my case.:)


  125. Zooey Lepidoptera says:

    Gross.

    Daryll orgasmed all over this thread.


  126. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Where in the bible does is say that being a hatefilled selfish b@stard like Daryll is the way to get to heaven?


  127. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    You are a liar. Why do you come here to tell lies and act like an a$$hole? The recount was AUTOMATIC you snivelling punkass troll. There were NO votes stolen you lying ignorant piece of garbage.


  128. ralph the wonder locust says:

    Zoo, that will happen when you’re “shaking the devil off”.

    If you do it right anyways…


  129. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    RealityCheck Says: 12

    You are a lying piece of garbage. You KNOW you are a liar. You are just being a jerk. EVERYTHING was done above board with both Dems and Republicans watching it all. You are such a snivelling jackass. I cant believe how ignorant and brainwashed you are.


  130. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    My GOD you are a braindead idiot. Morality? Coleman? Are you a particularly stupid infant? Coleman is nothing but a Bushbot moron. You truly are a cretin


  131. dbadass says:

    137
    Sure but we all helped him…


  132. OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts says:

    RaptureReady:
    You do realize that if what you pray for does not happen that the fault lies with you, not God, right? You have failed to discern his will, not that we mortals are really good at that. The best prayer is that of Jesus, one that ends “nonetheless not my will but thine be done”. It seems the will of God that Senator Franken be seated, so don’t starve yourself. I can’t recall the verse, but I believe we are also cautioned about making a big show of fasting.


  133. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    You cannot see into anyones heart. You are stupid. You are projecting the black fascist nature of your OWN shrivelled heart. You are a sick twisted moron without a shred of decency masquerading as a human being


  134. flex says:

    “ralph the wonder locust Says:

    Let’s hope the Senate is in for a few zingers like this from Senator Franken”

    Thanks Ralph, now that’s a zinger!


  135. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    RupturedRetard you do not speak for Jesus and you do NOT speak for Christians. You speak only for your own sick twisted psyche and your black evil heart. Your soul long ago departed rather than be corrupted further by any association with your putrid essense


  136. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Sure but we all helped him…

    dbadass, eeeewwwww! Did you wash your hands afterwards?


  137. dbadass says:

    Hi Jane
    Wanna shake on it?


  138. joe cantwell says:

    ****

    rc dropped this post

    like a hot potato.

    :)


  139. joe cantwell says:

    ot but worth noting,

    over at c&l a post entitled:

    GOP Talking Head Admits it Owns FOX? Don’t “Misunderestimate” Republicans

    an excerpt:

    Kaufman stated: The fifth thing that Republicans have to do is understand the problem of communicating in a world where much of the television media, particularly, is hostile…If I had to recommend one single thing that the Republicans should be doing to help articulate the message, it is to acquire another television network so that there is not just FOX, but multiple sources of alternative information that will do a much better job than we did in 2008 to keep things honest.

    *

    check it out!

    **


  140. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    RaptureReady,

    I have a question for you. Why would Heaven be made with transparent gold? Is it made with gold because gold is valuable? Platinum is much more valuable than gold, so why isn’t Heaven made out of transparent platinum? Might it be because no one on Earth had heard of platinum two thousand years ago?


  141. wiley says:

    As a child, I found that description of heaven revolting. I used to suspect that the anti-Christ himself wrote Revelations. Now I just think of it as the work of Roman cooptation, which is anti-Christ in spirit.


  142. jb says:

    Time to seat the good Senator Franken. Daryll, shouldn’t you be praying?


  143. 5th Estate says:

    This is great news! For John McCain!

    (Those here who don’t get the joke, don’t worry about it).:D


  144. green says:

    If RR and his brain washed brethren were truly of a spiritual sort, they would be out helping the poor, tending to people’s needs, stopping violence and hatred, and making sure those with too much help those with too little.

    But they are not spiritual. They just want to get to heaven. They have to have reward and punishment because if they did not have that they would not be good. In other words, they can’t be good just for goodness’s sake – they need to be made to be good. Hell works perfectly for them.


  145. ebbAndflow says:

    RR wasn’t ‘god’ wrong about President elect Huckabee?
    Perhaps s/he has a different perspective on things or you are imploring the incorrect deity.


  146. WaltTheMan says:

    WAS,
    Why not Plutonium or Uranium 235?


  147. had enough says:

    Coleman has no shame… none – just like the rest of the GOP. You would think because of their low ratings, they would try to redeem some honor and do what is right.


  148. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    RaptureReady,

    Everyone here has their own opinion, as we are definitely not of one mind on most issues. A small percentage who come here are, like yourself, deeply, deeply religious and absolutely convinced of the rightness of their views. Let me explain to you, as briefly as I can (no, really) why people like you give me the willies.

    You don’t know how to think critically. You accept your religious teachings as if they were fact. When faced with contradictions in what you believe, rather than reject what you have been taught, you shrug off the criticism. I have often heard people like you attribute everything they don’t understand to being “the will of God,” and saying that we are not meant to understand these things. This kind of thinking will only land you back in the first century.

    Do you oppose Science? (Note that I capitalized it.) Do you automatically reject any scientific results if they contradict what your Bible teaches you? The Hubble Space Telescope has taken pictures of things no one on Earth has ever seen before, nor even imagined. Did any of the authors of the Books of the Bible know that stars were formed inside giant nebulae? Or did they just assume that “God made them”? How would they know? They never saw one. Were these things always out there, or are the pictures some kind of hoax? I don’t believe you can explain those things from a Biblical perspective. Don’t want to explain things trillions of miles away? Let’s get back to Earth, and explain where dinosaurs came from. I don’t recall any mention of dinosaurs in the Books of the Bible. (I don’t recall hearing any mention of them in the books that didn’t make it into the Bible, either.) Could that be because before the 19th century, no one on Earth knew that dinosaurs existed?

    You need to learn to question things, and, to be perfectly honest, a good place to start would be your faith. People like you frighten me because you don’t know how to solve problems, because you don’t know how to think critically. And not only do people like you vote, some people like you (such as yourself) plan to run for office. And people like you should not be doing either.


  149. WaltTheMan says:

    Think what would have happened if Al Gore had hung in like that – we would have been without a president through at least mid-April… never mind, we were… and for more than 7 years after that!


  150. pete says:

    I’ve been plowing through some of the comments from the Freepers infiltrating local boards and, they don’t have any more proof of all this alleged election fraud than out local trolls. In fact, they all seem to scurry off as soon as anyone even says “proof”.

    It must be horrible to live in the constant fear that one’s fantasies will collapse under the weight of reason.


  151. leneeg says:

    Of course Pawlenty would support Coleman’s appeal, it’s called partisan politics. Let them make all the appeals they want, but the state needs a second senate represenative. It’s too bad the republicans can not lose graciously instead of acting like spoiled grownups or should I dare say brats.


  152. MCH says:

    “Think what would have happened if Al Gore had hung in like that – we would have been without a president through at least mid-April… never mind, we were… and for more than 7 years after that!”

    It does boggle the mind … what if? What if the courts had decided the other way and Al Gore had been President?

    The answer — if Al Gore had been president, we’d still have a World Trade Center.


  153. zuch says:

    If Coleman hasn’t appealed, the Franken should ask for a certificate of election. If Coleman has filed an appeal, the MN Supreme Court should just turn down the appeal without comment, and tell the state to get on with it.

    Cheers,


  154. WaltTheMan says:

    MCH Says:

    “It does boggle the mind … what if? What if the courts had decided the other way and Al Gore had been President?

    The answer — if Al Gore had been president, we’d still have a World Trade Center.”

    April 14th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    And about another 2 million people would still be alive, the US would have a balanced budget and our economy would be soaring.


  155. Trittydi says:

    I DARE Pawlenty to run for president in 4 years.

    We’ll chew him up and spit him out – right into the spittoon where he belongs.
    *


  156. SKdeAnt says:

    Wow. I don’t think I have seen Darryl quite this unhinged before. I didn’t know he was a Minnesotan.

    Please, RR, fast away! Maybe you will become so pure of heart and weak from hunger that you will not be able to type anymore and LEAVE US ALONE.

    FRANKEN WON. COLEMAN LOST. How’s that for a reality check?


  157. Above the Clouds says:

    How ironic–Franken actually gained more votes from the election challenge than Coleman, the candidate who brought it. Maybe if Coleman keeps up the challenge, Franken can eventually win over 100% of the ballots (including Bachmann voters).


  158. Wiz says:

    Pawlenty is in trouble, if he refuses to sign the certificate for Franken, he risks his reelection bid in 2010 by pissing off the voters in Minnesota, if he does sign he risks his potential Presidential run in 2012 by pissing off the Repubs. As they say he going to feel like a hitchhiker in a hail storm on a Texas highway: You can’t run, you can’t hide, and you can’t make it stop. Pawlenty will probably be relieved if Norm drops his appeal. As far as Coleman running for some other office, I can’t see him in a political role in the future, he will probably find some lobbying job somewhere pressuring lawmakers on voter fraud issues.


  159. DallasNE says:

    Pawlenty is looking pretty foolish in this matter. Is he up for re-election in 2010 and how might this hurt his chances? I would think that Minnesota voters would be getting pretty fed up with Coleman and supporters like Pawlenty. That bridge collapse also happened on Pawlenty’s watch as he cut spending for road repairs. While Pawlenty is fairly personable he is picking up some serious baggage along the way.


  160. DRxJapanese Beetle says:

    I have a theory.
    Ever since cRaptureReady got OWNED by PLC, he rarely makes an appearance, unless it’s late at night when he’s pretty sure PLC won’t show up.

    But, albeit in a late night form, Parodyll of pseudo-(c)hristian fame is BACK!

    Just curious, though, why would a West Virginian, who is running for a political seat in Indiana, be fasting for Minnesota?
    Is it because his wife’s pregnancy is gestating like an elephant?


  161. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Can’t the state Supreme Court reject hearing the appeal? Happens all the time in the Supreme Court of the US.


  162. nellieh says:

    In Florida the Republicans went to the Republican SCOTUS and filed th STOP counting! In Minnesota they are going to the MN. SC to KEEP counting VOTES REJECTED BY THE THREE TRI-PARTISAN SC JUDGES! The Republicans want to flip the coin; heads I win, tails you lose.


  163. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Just a note: writers are addressing Rapture Ready and the posts that the writers are referring to are no longer visible.


  164. woke says:

    Compare and contrast how Gore and the dems handled this issue in 2000 (a more important race with actual voter disenfranchisement) for the betterment of the country (supposedly) with the repugs and Coleman’s actions…….

    repugs=Politics over Country everytime


  165. ljm says:

    This whole Coleman/Pawlenty thing reminds me of both the 2000 and 2004 nation elections when Gore and Kerry could have legitimately asked for an investigation of the voting travesties in Florida and Ohio but decided to accept the results as it was. Minnesota voters should start marching to the state house, if for no other reason than to call attention to Coleman and to pressure Pawlenty.


  166. woke says:

    On the other hand, look how allowing lilaWol/hallichainy to steal the 2000 election turned out—total disaster for our country, eh?

    Therefore, I say….allow all the challenges to the bitter end so the repugs have no legs left to stand on. In the process, it is their own party that will suffer as a result of their inanity, eh?


  167. Democrat Soldier says:

    #40 – RaptureReady Says:
    ———————————————————–”… Satan must lose his hold on that seat. That seat belongs to God.”

    April 13th, 2009 at 8:26 pm

    Wow, even RaptureReady is rooting for Fmr. Sen. Coleman to lose his appeal and to allow Sen. Franken to be seated! ;-)


  168. mary lacewing says:

    DRxJapanese Beetle, I definitely think Daryll should use that as part of his upcoming campaign for councilman, “when we face challenges I will fast for you!”.


  169. ralph the wonder locust says:

    woke Says:
    On the other hand, look how allowing lilaWol/hallichainy to steal the 2000 election turned out—total disaster for our country, eh?

    Therefore, I say….allow all the challenges to the bitter end so the repugs have no legs left to stand on. In the process, it is their own party that will suffer as a result of their inanity, eh?

    You must be confusing the Republicans for a group of people who care about reality.

    They have already been afforded probably the most exhaustive and meticulously scrutinized recount process ever, and they still claim that Al Franken “stole votes”, with no proof at all.


  170. RealityCheck says:

    Whats funny is all the losers here…thinking they are so enlightened…because they drink their Starbucks while patting each other on the back every day posting their mindless B.O. Slurpee’s.

    Fraken will be overturned by the SC and then watch the crying from the left again.


  171. woke says:

    You one of the Sour Grape teabagboys too Mr. reality?

    LMFAO


  172. woke says:

    Mr. reality CHECK is yet another hypocritical STATES RIGHTS repug, eh?

    All about states rights UNLESS the ruling goes a different way….

    too funny, eh?


  173. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    pbeeg Says:
    Reality Check:
    Norm Coleman had every chance to prove Franken cheating, and couldn’t do it.
    It’s too bad he doesn’t live in trollworld, where he can prove it just by making pseudonymous posts to websites!

    Every time a right winger claims that Franken cheated, ask them if that’s true, why did Governor Pawlenty say that he thinks that the recount was thorough and extremely fair?


  174. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    RealityCheck Says:
    Fraken will be overturned by the SC and then watch the crying from the left again.

    On what basis will the SC overturn the decision. There has been zero proof that Franken stole any votes or did anything wring during the election or during the recount. So on what basis will the SC overturn the decision? Will they overturn it solely because Coleman is a Republican?


  175. lvdragonlady says:

    Once again, a republican puts his own self interest and party before the people he is suppose to represent.


  176. guzide says:

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