Fox host: ‘It’s now my great duty to promote the tea parties. Here we go!’
Fox host: ‘It’s now my great duty to promote the tea parties. Here we go!’
Fox News host Neil Cavuto regularly claims that when he aggressively advocates for the anti-Obama “tea party” protests on air, he is simply covering them as a journalist. But Stuart Varney, Cavuto’s fill-in host, admitted this afternoon that the the network is actually promoting the right-wing protests. After telling a guest that the tea parties were in protest to President Obama’s policies, Varney closed a segment by saying, “It’s now my great duty to promote the tea parties. Here we go!” Watch it:
In a Washington Post online chat today, media critic Howard Kurtz said that “it makes me a bit uncomfortable the way the channel has turned these April 15 protests into something of a crusade, complete with the drumbeat of advance publicity and the above-named hosts planning to attend various tea parties. But it’s not fair to say that Fox’s reporters are jumping on this bandwagon.” Fox News bills Varney as a “business journalist.”
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GAWD, was that alittle truth that came out of faux snooze?
April 13th, 2009 at 5:28 pm“…Here we go!”
yup. the confession! and a nod to the TRUTHERS such as TP!
April 13th, 2009 at 5:32 pmWhen in the history of American broadcasting has a network shamelessly promoted an agenda and movement that seeks to obstruct the agenda of a sitting president?!?
This is a travesty and should be dealt with. Revisit the court ruling that allowed Fux Newsance to be considered a news outlet.
News media have a right to be biased towards a particular notion or person, but this is beyond a mere bias. This is a systematic effort led by political interests determined to undermine a very popular president who won decisively, demonstrating that the majority of this country backs his agenda.
Surely to God something can be done about this.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pmI still don’t trust Howard Kurtz completely, but he seems to be able to critique the Right as well as teh Left.
Of course, this may simply be a parochial shot at a rival network.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmIt was just an accident; won’t happen again.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pmThis turns my stomach. Can you imagine the outrage (rightfully so) if MSNBC or CNN not only told viewers to join Code Pink or MoveOn.org, but actually held fundraisers for the groups and gave viewers information about how to join? How about if Keith Olbermann or Wolf Blitzer actually attended Code Pink rallies and marches under the auspices of “covering the story”? How they can get away with this is beyond my understanding.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pmthe tea parties are legitimate free speech actions for those that want to protest government spending.
If Fox wants to claim it’s a news organization, it should report on the tea parties, not promote them.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pmDoes Stuarty varney not realize that the federal government is operating under George W. Bush’s final budget?
The current increase in the deficit that Varney is b!tching about is all on GWB.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pmThanks for your concern, b-cup.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pmanytime, ralph.
How’s it going?
April 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pmWhere were these jackasses for the past eight years when Bush was pouring hundreds of billions of dollars down the toilet in Iraq? Oh yeah, they were the cheerleaders!
April 13th, 2009 at 5:44 pmBut it’s not fair to say that Fox’s reporters are jumping on this bandwagon.”
Right. They are overhauling the engine, changing the tires, filling it up with fuel, but jumping on it? Right.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:44 pmFox host: ‘It’s now my great duty to promote the tea parties. Here we go!’
– - These clowns still don’t know what these tea parties are about. Can they really be THIS agitated over a return to the Clinton tax rate of 39% instead of Bush’s 36%? Puh-leeeze.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:46 pmbackup Says:
the tea parties are legitimate free speech actions for those that want to protest government spending.
“Legitimate”? Sure, but please don’t try pitching them as “grassroots” when they’re really astroturf.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pmI was wondering why I heard AC/DC during the Howard Kurtz video, so I went to taxdayteaparty.com. On it there is an video about a minute or so which uses AC/DC’s song Thunderstuck. I am not the only who finds it funny that for a nationwide(USA) tax day tea party the organizers use a song by an Australian band?
April 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pmI wanna see these clowns throw a real tea party, at Seattle Pier 61, with real boxes of tea, hurled off the wharf into the cold waters of Puget Sound.
Then I want to watch the Coast Guard arrest these idiots for polluting our waters.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:54 pmNothing I didn’t already know. I for one cannot wait to attend my local tea party. The obama admin is spending way too much, however I do agree that these people seem to not have cared about bush’s radical spending.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:54 pmAw, I was sure backup had taken a vacation to ramp up for one of these rallies…
April 13th, 2009 at 5:54 pmI see bcup is not too interested in the facts…. again.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:55 pmshoeless. Republicans spent too much money. Conservatives should have been more vocal in the past, if they value fiscal responsibility. It’s hypocritical to try to claim that the new administration is overspending without acknowledging the Bush administration overspent.
Despite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern. It does make sense that if the overspending becomes significant enough, those concerned about fiscal responsibility will become more and more vocal.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:55 pmhar5125, and if the past is a predictor of the future, they are’t paying royalites or got the artists’ permission to use the song…
April 13th, 2009 at 5:56 pmGee, what if the tea party happens and no other news outlet reports the event, except Fox, of course? Let’s make this event irrelevant by not discussing it. The tea baggers that will attend the tea party have a right to protest and we have a right to ignore them.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pmwags. Every once in a while I indulge in some of my other hobbies (taking candy from babies, needless polluting, teaching my class on intelligent design, etc); but I knew you were probably starting to miss me, so I checked back in.
April 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pmAnd while these idiots are tossing tea, the real work of governing goes on.
From yahoo a couple of minutes ago…
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama is allowing Americans to make unlimited transfers of money and visits to relatives in Cuba and easing other restrictions Monday, ushering in a new era of openness toward the island nation ruled by communists for 50 years.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:01 pmProgressive Republican Says:
Nothing I didn’t already know. I for one cannot wait to attend my local tea party. The obama admin is spending way too much, however I do agree that these people seem to not have cared about bush’s radical spending.
Please explain what “too much” means. President Obama is spending a little more (in budgetary terms) than bush, but not when you consider that bush never included the cost of the wars in his budgets…
http://mediamatters.org/items/200904030018
Please remove the scrotum from your eyelids before you respond, otherwise you’ll have a lot of typos (teabag joke).
April 13th, 2009 at 6:01 pmDespite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern. It does make sense that if the overspending becomes significant enough, those concerned about fiscal responsibility will become more and more vocal.
But to become “more and more vocal” suggests that they were at one time vocal and now they’re just getting louder. These charlatans never said word one under Bush, and now they’re out in droves shouting terms about which they know nothing. I agree it’s the American right to take to the streets and protest whatever they see fit, but I bet dollars to donuts these were the same people who boycotted the Dixie Chicks and said that to question President Bush meant that you hated America. The only problem is that FOX “News” is actively promoting these protests and aiding their “success.” That is absolutely, 100% wrong no matter which side of the political spectrum is holding rallies.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:01 pmGeez backup, when do you find the time to teach “teabaging for republicans” at the local continuing educuation center?
April 13th, 2009 at 6:01 pmYou are one of the more entertaining posters here, I must admit. And your sense of humor seems to be growing back. Kudos.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pmMatt. No. Varney can think what he wants, but he’s veered from reporting into advocacy.
It’s not news if you have picked a side.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pmCan you imagine the faux uproar if MSNBC started staging anti Publican rallies?
April 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pmHoward Kjerkz is a sold out, corporate facist!
You want the truth about the media? Go to media matters. You can see for yourself what an uninformed or stupid a$$hole Howard actually is. I watched this losers show about 1.5 times and immediately realized he was trying the jerk off the entire nation!!
April 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pm(I can’t believe I’m doing this, but…)
If the people who are protesting the Obama administration “spending significantly more” said NOTHING about Bush-era spending, then perhaps they’re not really concerned about spending at all, but simply focused on opposing a President from the other party who has the support of most of the American people.
The argument that these “teabagging” parties are a legitimate complaint about spending is bullshit.
They’re about Democratic spending. And that renders them nothing more than partisan griping.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pmBrian Crooks Says:
Despite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern.
But this is a false if. We’re not spending significantly more:http://mediamatters.org/items/200904030018
And when you factor in the cost of bush’s wars, which he never counted in his budgets, the difference is even less. Face it, these people are protesting something other than taxation or spending…
April 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pmFuxUs nOoze = ILLEGAL, UNREGISTERED 527 GROUP!!!!!
April 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pmbackup Says:
Despite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern. It does make sense that if the overspending becomes significant enough, those concerned about fiscal responsibility will become more and more vocal.
Because the teabaggers are also “concerned about fiscal responsibility.” None of them are motivated by racism, fear or astonishing ignorance.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pmAre they risking license revocation out there at Faux? And if not, why not?
April 13th, 2009 at 6:11 pmBackup says:
“If Fox wants to claim it’s a news organization, it should report on the tea parties, not promote them.”
That’s the smartest thing you have ever said chief. There’s hope for you yet.
The more you know, the more liberal you become. I feel like I have been helping your progression here on TP. Where else would you get the truth?
April 13th, 2009 at 6:12 pmFox News and the Tea Baggers deserve each other. Each group believes it is the voice of reason in a confusing world. Both, however, also depend on each others audience being rather dimly lit too. Therein lies the rub. Its like listening to two idiots argue with each other, realizing none of them makes any sense. At the end of the day, Fox will still be a propoganda arm of the GOP and the Tea Baggers will still be poor, uninformed, and out of touch with mainstream America. Besides, all the Tea Bagger will BENEFIT under Obama’s budget, so that makes them asinine as well. Now that’s fair and balanced!
April 13th, 2009 at 6:15 pmFox, the only station to blatantly promote anti-Government, anti-American events. We know this sort of event is anti-American, even traitorous, because Fox told us so repeatedly when Bush was in power.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pmHowie baby…it’s so simple you should be able to get it…either they are making news or reporting news!
You are not smart or you are a sell-out…either way…sooooo useless in this country…
April 13th, 2009 at 6:17 pmWhat’s really sad is that some of these protestors have actually bought into the Fox lie that their taxes are going up, when in fact they are actually going down, except for the very rich, like Fox pundits and the rich organizers of the events. So Fox & the lobbyists are using these so-called grassroots people to fight for them, so that the taxes of the super-rich are not raised, and so that the rest of us have to pay more. The whole thing is such a fraud, and the tea-baggers are totally being used by manipulators like Beck, Hannity, many Republican politicians, etc.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pmFixed News – Far from Balanced and promoting the Anti-American ReichWingers who are sore losers who want to destroy America rather than see a Democrat Administration succeed where they didn’t.
Fcuk the Republicans
April 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pmWarning: This tea may cause severe damage to journalistic integrity
by Karl Frisch
April 13th, 2009 at 6:26 pmAs long as the topic is TV, this is only slightly OT:
MSNBC is developing a weekend politics show to be moderated by Chuck Todd.
Todd was reportedly in consideration for the “Meet the Press” moderator gig before it went to David Gregory.
(I wish it would have gone to Todd, as Gregory is terrible.)
April 13th, 2009 at 6:31 pmralph. I’ve had problems with the bailout spending sense the Bush administration, but, largely a Depression era discussion we had, I think there is a purpose for the spending. I’m still uncomfortable with how we pay the money back, but I understand what I believe is Obama’s plan. To spend enough money now, to prompt the economy back to life, then to practice fiscal restraint when revenues are strong.
I trust the President.
But, I recognize the objections of those that oppose the spending.
First, people have different spending priorities. Whether it is right or wrong, some people would be willing to go into debt to pay for a war, but they resist either paying more taxes or taking on more debt to pay for social programs. You can disagree with their priorities, but in their minds, the objection is based on priorities not partisanship.
Additionally, many people aren’t convinced that deficit spending will improve the economy in the long run. Not just partisan spending, but any deficit spending. The case is difficult to make, when you think about it. “We’re going to get out of our overspending predicament by spending more money.” Again, you can disagree with them, but their objections could well be based on their objection to the significant deficit spending and not necessarily on their partisan objections.
In any case, the charge that conservatives didn’t seem bothered by the Bush overspending is very relevant. If conservatives want to resist overspending today, they need to face the reality that the spending habits have been in place for a while.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThe Stuart Varney video clip promoting the upcoming protests should have been titled “Ernest goes to Tea”. Oh, wait. Ernest was played by Jim Varney. Sorry, my bad.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:37 pmAwww, gee, backup, you should have sprinkled all that sense around when BUSH was burning down America.
Now, you just look like an ass – because this tea party should have started 5 or 6 YEARS ago.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:42 pmI’ll be happy to see many of these Baggers moving into tent cities and lining up at food banks – they deserve 100% of the “fruits of their labors”.
Sad, angry idiots.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:55 pmI thought I heard a sound bite on NPR that said these tea parties were not primarily anti-obama? Am I wrong?
Besides, the gesture is pointless since they probably already paid a sales tax/tariff on the tea =D Wouldn’t a tea boycott be more effective?
April 13th, 2009 at 7:02 pmuh oh… buckie @47 – it’s democratIC… remember?
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dasm Says:
Fox, the only station to blatantly promote anti-Government, anti-American events. We know this sort of event is anti-American, even traitorous, because Fox told us so repeatedly when Bush was in power.
yep.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:03 pmOpposing spending is the teabaggers’ beard.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:03 pmThis is an anti-Obama crusade organized by reactionary right-wing republicans and their propagandists at Focks, pure and simple.
I think its time for the FCC to step in.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:12 pmIf you plan on attending a tea party, bring a sign with the words “sucker” printed on it. Be sure to show the this sign to the teabaggers because that is exactly what they are… suckers and fools to be used by the rich.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:14 pmcitizen_pain Says:
When in the history of American broadcasting has a network shamelessly promoted an agenda and movement that seeks to obstruct the agenda of a sitting president?!?
I think it’s gone way past obstructing the agenda of a sitting President. I think it’s morphing into a movement to “take overthrow the duly elected government”. To me that spells SEDITION. If I lived where there would be one of these teabagging demonstrations, I would keep well away. I fear for what may happen when you get 50-100 right wing nut jobs together.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:15 pme_to_the_pOTATO BUG Says:
I thought I heard a sound bite on NPR that said these tea parties were not primarily anti-obama? Am I wrong?
They are probably right. It is not only anti-Obama, it is also anti Democrat.
I am so looking forward to the day when we can wrest control of NPR from the conservatives who have made a mockery of what it once was.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:18 pmFake News acts as if it’s thousands of people and it’s really less than 100 people at some of these ‘tea parties’. Fake News had better hope that none of these rightwingnut crazies gets violent. It only takes one.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:20 pmbackup Says:
Despite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern. It does make sense that if the overspending becomes significant enough, those concerned about fiscal responsibility will become more and more vocal.
So where was Fixed News and these conservatives when Bush was spending us into a 10 trillion dollar national debt and a 1.5 trillion dollar national deficit? Why was all this spending ok back then, but not now?
April 13th, 2009 at 7:23 pmI’m watching Chris Matthews Show- he just showed a tea party ad from Fake News. They’re really pumping this up as if ALL citizens are supporting this nonsense. The guest fool from WSJ Steve (whatever his last name is) says he thinks there’s going to be millions of people at these teabagging parties! ROTFL! I can’t wait until the 15th! LOL
April 13th, 2009 at 7:28 pmThe good folks at FOX News are not actually journalists…they only play one on T.V.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:29 pmI’m watching Chris Mathews and he’s spouting numbers of attendance at these tea parties. He says 15,000 people in Orange county, CA (near where I live), 10,000 here 6,000 there and then they show a screen shot of one of the parties in progress and there’s like 50 people milling around holding signs.
First off, there was no gathering of 15,000 in Orange County for anything, probably ever. This is CA after all, people rarely go out and protest.
Second, if this is such a movement and they have footage of x number of people lets see it.
Untill then I’ll see the tea parties for what they are, a bunch of know nothing malcontents, stooges for the republican party.
What a joke, do they even know they’re being used?
April 13th, 2009 at 7:29 pmHi fire ant,
Chris Mathews is a tool.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:31 pmbackup Says:
Despite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern. It does make sense that if the overspending becomes significant enough, those concerned about fiscal responsibility will become more and more vocal.
Except they have no credibility to be voicing any concerns about our financial health, since they were completely silent when Bush was spending money like a pimp. Their concern is with political power, and their distinct lack of it. This stunt is their grand plan for regaining power, and only a political virgin would ever take them, or their concerns at face value.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:36 pmProgressive Republican Says:
Nothing I didn’t already know. I for one cannot wait to attend my local tea party. The obama admin is spending way too much, however I do agree that these people seem to not have cared about bush’s radical spending.
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Do you know how much Obama is exactly spending, since you said its way to much?
Since “these people”(sounds very McCainish) seem to not care about Bush’s radical spending?
WHY THAN ARE YOU GOING TEA-BAGGING?
Otherwise, your just another idiot “pawn” the Obstructionist Republicans are using to promote their “Culture of Hate.”
April 13th, 2009 at 7:36 pmThank you for the replies.
You need a tivo so you can roll it back, freeze, read the signs the protesters are holding, and figure out what protests the clips are actually spliced from. Imagine the vaults of stock footage!
April 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pmRich H, Chris Matthews has his moments and I just change the channel when he starts getting too obnoxious. Sometimes I wonder who’s side he’s on.
April 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pmYou can bet Dobbs will be in there somehow too. he doesn’t even do NEWS any more. He does BLAMES. and he BLAMES you!
April 13th, 2009 at 7:52 pmcan there be anything more infuriating than watching a vacuous faux blowhard patronize and talk over their “guest”. why do people even agree to appear on faux if they have a different point of view?
April 13th, 2009 at 8:00 pmFaux news should have its license revoked for treason, as well as fraud. Listen to the right-wingnuts scream as Faux broadcasting is shut down for fraud and treason. The right-wingnuts have gone up the river and become what they fear and hate the most; they have a heart of darkness.
April 13th, 2009 at 8:12 pmThe video clip for this thread is an examplar for trying to learn to see.
April 13th, 2009 at 8:13 pmWhy do the fox advertizers continue to spend money on fox while it engages in traitorist activities? Are they trying to lose money for their shareholders. They will be identified with the frauds at fox.
April 13th, 2009 at 8:25 pmgrf67 Says:
April 13th, 2009 at 8:39 pm“Why do the fox advertizers continue to spend money on fox while it engages in traitorist activities?”….
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That’s a very good point and an interesting one at that.
My point exactly, barfly. But you said it better.
April 13th, 2009 at 8:40 pmI think more people showed up for the easter egg roll than will show up for these teabagging parties – LMMFAO!
April 13th, 2009 at 8:56 pmI think we should each send our representatives a garbage bag for the the tea bags that the wingnuts will be sending them
April 13th, 2009 at 9:37 pmWATCH HOW THE NUMBERS AND THE SIZE OF THE CROWDS AT THESE TEA-BEGGING EVENTS WILL BE INFLATED AND MANIPULATED AND WHO BETTER TO DO THAT THAN FOX NEWS.
SO 50 PEOPLE AT ONE EVENT WILL BECOME 5,000 PLUS PEOPLE BY THE TIME IT’S REPORTED BY FOX.
I SAW A TEA-BAGGING EVENT IN DC HOSTED BY THAT GODAWFUL Michelle Malkin AND THE CROWD WAS SO TINY, WE LAUGHED AND BOOED THEM AS WE DROVE PAST.
THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE FUNNIEST THING SINCE DAN QUAYLE AND THE POTATO(E).
I GUESS FOX AND THESE TEA-BEGGARS ARE LIVING PROOF OF WHAT BUSH SAID BELOW:
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.”
April 13th, 2009 at 9:44 pm- George W. Bush
ralph and barfly. The present level of spending seems to be even more significant than the funding for the war in Iraq.
While I agree that if those supporting the tea parties were really concerned about spending, they should have been more vocal about past deficits.
But, the deficits seem to be increasing. It’s possible that the objections are based in partisanship. It’s also possible that the significant increase in spending has more people concerned and more people vocal.
Spending under Bush was irresponsible. If that’s the case, why is it so hard to believe that people could find even more significant spending also irresponsible?
The spending problem didn’t originate with Obama, but that doesn’t mean people should perpetuate the status quo.
Instead of dismissing those that don’t agree with the stimulus spending, educate them on the purpose for the spending and the plan to pay it back.
April 13th, 2009 at 9:44 pmTP is right, taxes haven’t been raised, so I don’t understand the tea parties. As for complaining about the stimulus package, IT’S AlREADY BEEN DECIDED. I truly hope it works. I also don’t want to see Obama fail. If it doesn’t work, we’ve made things worse and the American people are going to see some hard years. Let’s all hope we are starting to see the bottom of this recession. Because, while I can’t always agree with your tactics for fixing things, I will admit that it takes all Americans being able to succeed for our country to succeed. I listened to Rush Limbaugh a couple of times last week. I have only ever listened to him a couple of times. I was actually a little bit bothered by him. It wasn’t his stand on most things that bothered me. It was stupid things he said in getting his point across that irritated me. Liberals and democrats should just leave him alone. With his wacked out comments in making his point, he ends up discrediting himself. Please don’t use this post to make a point that I agree with your views. However, I do admit that some of the crap coming from the GOP isn’t helping them to win support.
April 13th, 2009 at 9:59 pmb-cup. this is your standard MO. Your keep arguing the same irrelevant point as if it means something, oblivious to the more salient point that you acknowledge with a brief nod of the head, and then ignore.
IF the protests were genuinely about the growth in spending, then they might mean something.
These are clearly not. How do I know? Becuase those organizing them and trumpeting them on Faux News said NOTHING about the spending during the Bush era.
This tells me they don’t really give a shit about spending, unless it’s done by a Democrat.
It’s a friggin’ stunt, designed to embarrass the President, because these clowns have dug themselves so far out of power that this the only trick they have left.
You show yourself to be a fool every time you pretend that their concerns are genuine.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:09 pmProgressive Republican Says:
A reasonable stance. One I disagree with but reasonably stated. The issue however is that Fox is ADVOCATING these protests which seems a violation of journalistic ethics. Especially when they were calling anti war protesters un-American traitors.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:21 pmralph. Some of the people at the tea parties are partisan. Some of them are probably worried about the U.S. going into too much debt.
This idea that someone is an idiot for questioning substantial debt spending doesn’t make sense to me.
I think many of the people that are concerned about debt may be stirred up by partisans, but their concerns are none the less real.
I think it is relatively ingrained in people that debt on a personal level is bad. And those same people project that negative to debt on the national level.
I think it is reasonable to believe that many people are concerned about our national debt. I think there has been a lot of recent stimulus measures (both Bush and Obama) that have gotten a lot of news coverage. The numbers are huge.
I think the way to get those people to stay home and support the measures is to explain how the spending will spurred the economy to result in increased future revenues. Increased revenues we could use to repay the debt.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:24 pmbackup, I gave you that one ‘recommend’ at #27. It was funny.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:26 pmJane. you’re cool. But, those really are my hobbies. ; )
April 13th, 2009 at 10:33 pmApril 13th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#30199155
April 13th, 2009 at 10:41 pmLet me try that again, with better formatting:
This is your ignorant straw man act, b-cup, and it’s really annoying. Maybe that’s your goal, to annoy. If so, then “Mission Accomplished”.
No one said “someone is an idiot for questioning substantial debt spending” and you know it.
This is the kind of shit that has earned you the reputation you now carry around here.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:42 pmralph. we disagree on why people are showing up at the tea parties. Some are showing up because they don’t like Democrats or they don’t like Obama. Some are showing up because they disagree with our level of debt spending.
I personally trust the President has a plan. I am worried about paying down the debt in the future, but I feel that our ability to pay it, will be enhanced with a stronger economy.
I’m out. Good night.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:47 pmNo, b-cup, we disagreed on the point I made.
Both barfly and I said that the protesters have no credibility because they showed no alarm when George W. Bush more than doubled the national debt.
You somehow decided that our point was “someone is an idiot for questioning substantial debt spending”, which neither of us said.
That was the disagreement, and it’s par for the course with you. It’s why you are scorned as such a dishonest partner in debate.
April 13th, 2009 at 10:58 pmAs someone else said yesterday, the only good coming out of this silly stuff is Lipton. They love it.
And those people that show up for many reasons at the rally’s are silly. Some saying something regarding socialism. Most western world governments are half socialist and half capitalist. And those people should ask themselves. Do they want to go without social security, how about medicare, FDIC to protect their bank,unemployment compensation etc? Which one of these programs are they using? Which ones are their parents using? And what about those Republicans and right wing pundits that have started this desperate silly PR? Would they give up the socialist health insurance we give them as legislators, the one we don’t have but they do?
They should try reading their American history to find out just what the Boston tea party was about. They seem to have some vague idea and it’s not even historically correct.
They might use some of the time they are wasting, to study some American history. It might help to know what your talking about. And it might help you to learn just how your being used by a party in shambles with do ideas other than silliness. They should be embarrassed to be so ignorant and so easily influenced.
April 13th, 2009 at 11:06 pmJane. you’re cool.
Thanks, backup. But I still think that your comments are nitpicking around the edges of what’s wrong with this “tea party” event, which I’m not going to re-argue here as Ralph and others have already taken care of that.
I’m hoping that a real news agency covers some of the events to show the actual number of people attending. I also hope that someone asks several members of whatever ‘crowd’ there may be to explain exactly what they are protesting against. I’m willing to bet that most of their answers are not reality-based.
April 13th, 2009 at 11:13 pmI just got off the phone with my 86 year old grandmother who like’s watching her favorite team “Da Bulls” play and as I proceeded to ask her what her thought’s where on the so called ‘Tea-Party’ protest. She said, “oh, the people of DC are finally protesting their taxation without representation.” LOL
I just laughed and said great she’s not a FOX News junkie, by the way she dislikes FOX News and even wrote a letter to them condemning their reporting style.
April 13th, 2009 at 11:17 pmBobwurst Says:
Brian Crooks Says:
Despite that, if we are now spending significantly more, people still have a right to voice their concern.
But this is a false if. We’re not spending significantly more:http://mediamatters.org/items/200904030018
And when you factor in the cost of bush’s wars, which he never counted in his budgets, the difference is even less. Face it, these people are protesting something other than taxation or spending…
These idiot teabaggers are really protesting President Obama’s hue.
You better bet it.
April 13th, 2009 at 11:23 pmcurious
Great post and sooooo true. Thumbs up from me ;-)
April 13th, 2009 at 11:25 pmWill this be a circular teabagging, where they can all gaze into each others rapturous faces, or something more like a conga line, where the necessity for adroit bagmanship will create many an opportunity for mutual hilarity? I simply CAN’T wait!
April 13th, 2009 at 11:43 pmThere’s a simple way to end FOX’s enchantment with the teabaggers. Let MSNBC start covering the entire event as simply an effort on the part of Ruppert Murdoch to evade paying his fair share of income taxes.
The more focus on this aspect of the story as the only “news worthy” aspect of the story, the smaller the appeal of the teabaggers to FOX “News”.
Come on folks, lets start crowding the doors at New Corp head quarters for statements from Uncle Ruppert on where he intends to take his movement! Hang out at his penthouse, His favorite restaurants and clubs, demand answers.
Smoke him out!
Questions for Uncle Ruppert when he does show up?
1) Will you be giving up your offshore bank accounts in the Cayman Islands?
2) Will News Corporation continue to allow the Chinese to employ prisoners when making teabag marketing toys?
3) Will News Corporation continue to accede to pressure by the Chinese government for favorable coverage on trade issues in exchange for continued special rights in operating News Corporation businesses in China?
4) Will News Corporation be willing to increase its taxes to provide tax relief for the teabaggers?
5) Will News Corporation be willing to forego the benefits of corporate socialism on behalf of the “movement”?
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Come on folks, lets get creative and have some fun. Uncle Ruppert deserves the attention. He’s calling out for it! If we’re going to give him more tax breaks, we ought to at least get some fun in return.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:18 amWhat’s all this uproar over teablogging?
I mean, c’mon, haven’t you ever been reading a blog post on the internet, only to spew tea out through your nose all over your keyboard?
Oh, wait, conservative teabagging parties. Sorry. That’s a completely different sack of nuts.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:58 amNot “anti-Obama.”
The teaparty events are protesting wreckless deficit spending by Congress and Obama. This is really a carry over from Bush, too.
The government is eventually coming after all of you to pay the bill. You, your kids, and your grandkids.
The deficit is expected to be $20 Trillion in 10 years. At 4% interest, that’s $800 billion a year just to pay interest on the debt. Nothing else. No health care. No food for starving people. No unemployment help. Just interest on the debt. Money down the drain.
The teaparties are an attempt by the people of the US who care about their future and their children’s future to stand up to the wreckless spending by Congress.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:40 amIs Fox Network a news reporting agency or a shill for the republican “We know what’s best for you poor folks” political party?
April 14th, 2009 at 5:27 amThey must be owned and operated by the elite top 10% of the population that owns 90% of the wealth in this country.
Tuning into the BBCA network to see of they actually report the news.
Bunk. Its anti Obama. These guys didnt care SQUAT about the spending Bush did WHICH HAD NO POSSIBIlITY of a return. The war was a sinkhole for money. As were the tax cuts that went overwhelmingly to the wealthy. NOW constructive spending that does things that CAN give a return are a different fish entirely. Its like they encouraged their Brother in law to keep buying fishing boats and indulge in his collection of hubcaps while he was going DEEP into debt. So much debt that it will take most of his disposable income for the next fifty years to pay it off but when he has a chance to borrow some more and invest in a bussiness so he can maybe pay it off in five or ten years they are suddenly throwing a fit and telling him THAT is irresponsible. It is just plain stupid. Either these people are morons AND brainwashed or its just flat out anti obama
April 14th, 2009 at 7:28 ammarwick Says:
Not “anti-Obama.”
The teaparty events are protesting wreckless deficit spending by Congress and Obama. This is really a carry over from Bush, too.
Except Fox news wasn’t promoting nationwide anti-spending events when Bush was running the debt up to the stratosphere, and you folks on the right didn’t let out a peep when we complained about wasteful spending for 8 years.
But now, when you’re in the minority, suddenly fiscal responsibility is all-important.
This purely political sour grapes, dressed up as principled stand.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:23 amThis idea that someone is an idiot for questioning substantial debt spending doesn’t make sense to me.
I think many of the people that are concerned about debt may be stirred up by partisans, but their concerns are none the less real.
Not an idiot, just not credible, given their past acquiessence on republican spending. It’s really easy to stir up conservatives, and given that they are also trying to gin up anger over non-existant gun seizures, it’s clear they (republicans) are trying to keep their base together for next year’s elections, using fear and deception, just like they always do.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:34 amLook, we sure don’t like it when the right-wing media (Fox News)misrepresents issues from the Left, so let’s not make the same mistake by knowingly misrepresent their issues, however silly they may be.
These protests, while they may have scattered anti-Obama tones, are primarily about the increased spending by the Obama administration. This is not a taxation issue. Please stop writing articles that aren’t a true representation of the issue.
April 14th, 2009 at 9:06 amFaux news doenst know what is right from wrong ethics odont count for them they all are lyingg about being only a reporter they are paying for ta party,well tea party is a flop before it begings haha great GOP down the tubes again and faux news all brain washed to the ultimate
April 14th, 2009 at 9:13 amFOX IS A PROPAGANDA NETWORK. HARDLY NEWS.
April 14th, 2009 at 9:27 amSeems like some people need to be reminded what the Boston Tea Party was really about.
Thom Hartmann does a great job in this video
April 14th, 2009 at 10:21 amProgressVet Says: let’s not make the same mistake by knowingly misrepresent their issues, however silly they may be.
A fair point. And while I’ll admit that perhaps I’m being fed a liberal-biased view of prior tea parties, they still seem to be more filled with signs equating Obama with Hitler, being a fascist, socialist, communist, tyrant… signs about him coming after your guns, the New World Order, global currency, Obama being born in Kenya, his being a Muslim, etc.
Yes, taxes are mentioned too. But it seems to be just more a politically correct focal point to rally an attempt at demonizing an elected president, trying to make him seem less than human, his authority being painted as being unworthy of respect or recognition.
April 14th, 2009 at 10:28 amit,s time for the fcc to pull the plug, it is not a news media.
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