DHS Report: After Obama’s Election, Right-Wing Extremists ‘May Be Gaining New Recruits’
DHS Report: After Obama’s Election, Right-Wing Extremists ‘May Be Gaining New Recruits’
Throughout the presidential campaign, the public saw extreme right-wing rhetoric on display at several McCain rallies, with some yelling “kill him” about President Obama — and others even calling him a “terrorist.”
The extreme right — those who are “hate-oriented,” “mainly antigovernment,” or those dedicated to a “single issue” — is a legitimate threat that law enforcement must deal with, according to a new assessment from the Office of Intelligence and Analysis at the Department of Homeland Security. The report, which was coordinated with the FBI and is being given to federal, state, and local law enforcement, warns:
[R]ightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment.
Most extremists have made “rhetorical” statements and have “stopp[ed] short of calls for violent action,” but since the 2008 election, right-wing extremists are “reaching out to a wider audience of potential sympathizers.” Some highlights from the report:
Anti-immgration: “Rightwing extremist groups’ frustration over a perceived lack of government action on illegal immigration has the potential to incite individuals or small groups toward violence. If such violence were to occur, it likely would be isolated, small-scale, and directed at specific immigration-related targets.”
Recruiting returning vets: “Rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat.”
Gun-related violence: “Heightened interest in legislation for tighter firearms … may be invigorating rightwing extremist activity, specifically the white supremacist and militia movements.”
If the “uncertain economy” and a “perceived rising influence of other countries” continues, “rightwing extremism is likely to grow in strength,” the report adds. “[L]one wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent rightwing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.”
The DHS under President Bush was apparently more reluctant to make such assessments about the right. According to CQ, a 2005 report outlining terrorist threats “does not mention anti-government groups, white supremacists and other radical right-wing movements.” Bush’s report did, however, list the threat of left-wing groups such as the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front. And a 2001 report from the Energy Department examined “Left-Wing Extremism: The Current Threat.”
Conservative bloggers — such Michelle Malkin and Newsbusters — are up in arms over the report. A DHS official responded to the right’s criticism, noting that DHS did an assessment of left-wing extremism in January. “This is nothing unusual. … This is about awareness,” the official said.
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Of cours Michelle Malkin is up in arms. She’s one of the prime instigators of this behavior. Who are we going to hold responsible when one of these domestic terrorists hurts somebody. These people who incite violence should be held accountable.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:44 pm***
john stewart sums it up:
“Republicans, I think you are confusing tyranny with losing”
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 12:46 pmFear mongering and SHILLING are what the Reich Wing American Taliban do best.They haven`t figured out the fact that their version on America is appreciated by a very small number of people and those that oppose them are such a large number that we have marginalized them and their hate filled bigoted discriminatory ways.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:47 pmThere’s whiny losers, then there’s the whackedoutnutcase losers. Hopefully, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies are keeping tabs on these whinywhackoloser malcontents.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pmConfiscate everyones guns, melt them all down, create giant statues of Lenin/Stalin and put them up in the middle of NASCAR events!
That ought to bring the nut jobs out of the shadows!
April 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pmI guess the DHS heads would explode if there were anti-government people they couldn’t classify as left or right. I guess they would just throw them into the bin with white supremacists.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:50 pmWhen is Malkin and the Malkontents [Band Name!!] not up in arms over something?
April 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pmMalkin is up in arms,right wing extremists are just as much a threat to national security as terrorist overseas.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pmAh, so that is what Limbaugh blathered on about for 40 minutes.
I also heard the Gov. of Texas, on FOX no less, make a veiled threat to secede from the US.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pmWait a second – you mean there are a bunch of people that think the government is gonna take away their guns, restrict their religion, remove their freedom of speech, increase their taxes, and do all of the other things that Hannity is always saying the government will do? You mean this same group is predominately found in the areas of the country with the lowest education level? And some of them are starting to get violent?
In other news, water is wet, the Pope is Catholic, and bears sh!t in the woods.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pmThe far right’s protest effort to undermine the President seems to be aligning itself, whether intentionally or unintentionally, with political elements that are even more extreme than its own.
It will be very telling to see which elected conservatives and conservative media outlets will remain committed to openly supporting the planned protests when, inevitably, klansmen in full KKK regalia begin showing up at these rallies.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:52 pmDHS Report: After Obama’s Election, Right-Wing Extremists ‘May Be Gaining New Recru
– - How about we just give the Far Right fringe-ists their own country, say, Somalia.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:53 pmMetal birds in sky
April 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pmFind virgin for volcano
Throw rock at new world
Left wing extremists. After 8 years of blatant civil rights violations, two wars, a depression one would think that if the lefties were going to stage a violent uprising, it would have happened by now.
Instead we have right wing extremists and their enablers growing like scum on a stagnant pond after 3 months of responsible leadership.
Cheney might be right, there might be more danger of terrorist/insurgent attacks on the US these days. He ought to know, he’s one of the enablers.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:54 pmDude, it’s the Gooper-qadea rallying around their fearless leader fatty-pants limbaugh who is leading the charge mounted on his trusty big-wheel swinging a slice of pepperoni.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pmMost of this group are all high school drop-outs with no since of purpose in life all they do is go around menacing everyone else. Most of them live in rural areas that are well regarded ‘red’ areas. You can add FOX News to this list.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pmI also heard the Gov. of Texas, on FOX no less, make a veiled threat to secede from the US.
The GoOPernor of Texas is mostly a photo-op figgerhaid. The LT. Governor does all the real work.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:56 pmChallenge: follow Michelle Malkin’s rants & raves at either her website or via Twitter. One of these days, she is going to have to be involuntarily committed. The woman is nearly certifiable at this point.
April 14th, 2009 at 12:59 pm(Dr. Matt beat me to it, but it’s worth repeating)
The extreme right — those who are “hate-oriented,” “mainly antigovernment,” or those dedicated to a “single issue”
Why, that sounds like someone or someones who would bomb a building with a daycare center inside, over “collateral damage” for the siege at Waco.
American Taliban, indeed.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pmConsidering that an NRA member/formerly registered Republican/white supremacist was responsible for the destruction of the Oklahoma City Federal Building I can’t imagine why so-called conservatives would object to this threat assessment. Could it be the right wing has grown soft on terrorism?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:00 pmAnd have a look over at foxnews.com to read their home page article where they are ginning-up hatred and falsehoods about ACORN again.
More incitement of hatred & violence wrapped in racism and right-wing ideology.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pmRightwing Extremist Job Fair and Teabagger Party
tomorrow, nation wide…
see fox for details…
April 14th, 2009 at 1:01 pmBadmoodman Says:
DHS Report: After Obama’s Election, Right-Wing Extremists ‘May Be Gaining New Recruits
- – How about we just give the Far Right fringe-ists their own country, say, Somalia.
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I say give them Texas,because it is White,Reich(right) and wealthy and its in the Confederacy,it`s a right to work state and it has a lot of red state socialism and the Governor wants to secede anyways then we will move all the DEMS out and the REICH can flourish in Texas with all of their guns, GOD and hate filled bigotry and HYPOCRISY they love so much.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pmFirst of all, they can start by Arresting the people who are stirring these Anti-Amercian Scum up…
….1st that should be taking into custody…Glenn Beck…
….2nd, all the rest of the Reichwing hate promoters…
…which is all of the Fixed News propaganda talking heads…
…next all the rightwing assault weapon collectors…
…and all the republicans who supported torture, kidnapping, and illegal wars would help.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:02 pmDont feel Ms Malkin, I have already been thru the being investigated thing. Just remember if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide…right Michelle?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:05 pm*Dont feel bad..
April 14th, 2009 at 1:06 pmI live in Texas and its not the hate-fest people make it out to be. Every state has its bad eggs.
Heck, I remember when I worked in upstate NY for a period. People actually asked me If I had oil wells on the property and if we rode horses everywhere.
Yes, I would tell them, the Indians keep stealing our cars.
[keeding]
April 14th, 2009 at 1:08 pmThere are people on the fringe on both sides. How about the fact that the FBI’s most wanted list contains 3 ‘environmental activist’? This is a game and senseless game.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pmI say we use the Homeland security act on these people and lock them up. We must silence their disrespect of our Commander in Chief.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pmOh, Michelle, when are you ever going to figure out we just want you to put on the cheerleader outfit and pompoms again?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pmHopefully, the DHS will have cameras rolling at all the tea parties. With close ups of the MOC’s and Faux spews folks ranting to the ‘genuine’ Americans.
Anyone with any sense will stay very far away from these things.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:12 pmAlejandro Says:
I guess the DHS heads would explode if there were anti-government people they couldn’t classify as left or right.
“Sir, what do we do with these people? They’re not left or right!”
April 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pm“Goddammit, just spin them 90 degrees one side or another!”
If the DHS is concerned about all this, then why are they allowing people like Michele Bachman calling for people to be “armed and dangerous” or Michael Steele saying “strap it on”, or Hannity running a survey as to what form of overthrowing the government do his listeners want to happen?
I am really concerned for this country. I fear that we might just have another civil war, this time through the right attacking the left, physically, with guns.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:16 pmBeetlejuice Says:
I say we use the Homeland security act on these people and lock them up. We must silence their disrespect of our Commander in Chief.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
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Piss off, Trajan. You’re not fooling anybody.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pmRP2012 Says:
There are people on the fringe on both sides. How about the fact that the FBI’s most wanted list contains 3 ‘environmental activist’? This is a game and senseless game.
Yeah, there’s an equivalency between environmental activists that attack buildings and right wing nut jobs who kill policeman.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:17 pmUnfortunately, you have to pander to your audience. Most “educated” moderates or conservatives I know don’t listen to the $hit spewed by Benn Gleck, Michelle Molten, and the likes. Hell, even a friend who I would label extreme right knows that Oxybreath is pure entertainment drivel, nothing more.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:19 pmNow, the “uneducated” or the “not willing to learn” base is what drives their ratings. And this base is the type that CAN NOT have a black man succeed. No matter how obvious to the contrary, they just won’t listen.
So, in a way, these race baiting, hate filled mouths of the right SHOULD be held accountable. I think this country has had enough of church shootings and police massacres, don’t you???
We will see more and more right-wing extremism. It is being fueled by rant-jockeys like Limpballs and Little Seanie Vanity who appeal to the fringe element of our society that is frightened by their own irrelevance and disenfranchisement.
It is hard to know what is more frustrating to these crazies . . . the fact that their right-wing leaders have proven to be incompetent or the fact that their right-wing leaders are now just powerless little cry-babies.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pmHow could there be any more right-wing extremists unless they are importing Taliban?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:20 pmHoodathunktick Says:
Left wing extremists. After 8 years of blatant civil rights violations, two wars, a depression one would think that if the lefties were going to stage a violent uprising, it would have happened by now.
It didn’t happen because the government had the drop on those Quakers.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:21 pmRUCeriousDragonfly Says:
There’s whiny losers, then there’s the whackedoutnutcase losers.
has anyone seen that clip of a teabagger party, some yahoo’s railing on about dangerous colleges, and some chick yells out “BURN THE BOOKS!” ?
i think it was on rachel’s show…
chilling… at best…
April 14th, 2009 at 1:22 pmBHB, I hope you are wrong but fear you may be right. Judging from the rhetoric since the election, I suspect the Republicans to be capable of just about anything.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pmDRxJapanese Beetle Says:
Unfortunately, you have to pander to your audience. Most “educated” moderates or conservatives I know don’t listen to the $hit spewed by Benn Gleck, Michelle Molten, and the likes.
Most educated moderates or conservatives I know abandoned the Republican party either before the last election or shortly after (once the Republicans began their full-out assault on President Obama).
April 14th, 2009 at 1:23 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Yeah, there’s an equivalency between environmental activists that attack buildings and right wing nut jobs who kill policeman.”
How about the Liberals who kill policemen? Ya know the guy who killed a few of em about a month ago and then a radical left wing group was protesting on the day of the funeral in praise of him because of police brutality? THERE IS RADICALS ON BOTH SIDES.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pmIn all seriousness does it not concern anyone here that a real civil unrest situation may be developing. You can call these people crazy all you want. But in reality they are your neighbors, part of your community. They have spent a third of their life at the gun range and are very good with their weapons. And they are increasingly getting angrier. The recession is helping them to increase their numbers and their cause. So we can laugh at them all we want, but is anyone thinking about what happens if they mobilize.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
It didn’t happen because the government had the drop on those Quakers.
Next thing you know, they’ll be coming after the Amish terrorists and stuff. The ones who instead of blowing up buildings, show up with hammers and chisels.
/I Keed, I keed. Power to the Amish!
April 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pmRP2012 Says: THERE IS RADICALS ON BOTH SIDES.
But the illiterates tend to be on just one side.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pmhuh?
Link please.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:26 pmThey are weak and will die.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:27 pmBefore the last election, the bumper sticker stated that dissent was the ultimate in patriotism. Now it is seen as dangerous radicalism. Which way is it? Now that the thugs rule patriots will have to watch their backsides.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pmDon’t you think that the Bush presidency and the extremism of the views of his VP and others in his administration could also account for the rise in number of these groups, who surely must have felt licensed by the ‘anything goes’ attitude at the top?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pmright wing radical Says: Now that the thugs rule patriots will have to watch their backsides.
Beware those lefty thugs!
April 14th, 2009 at 1:30 pmI think I saw some at the farmer’s market the other day buying organic kale and redistrubuting wealth!
April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pmDoes anyone know how many people have been killed by ALF and ELF and other left-wing groups? As many as Tim McVeigh?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pmAnd patriots? Are these the same ones who a few years ago were saying, support your wartime president or be called traitor!
April 14th, 2009 at 1:32 pmPatriots who stood by silently while the Constitution was turned into toilet paper? Seems like the only thing they feel patriotic about is someone making money off them while pounding them into oblivion.
I don’t recall seeing a single dollar sign in the Constitution.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:34 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
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I am really concerned for this country. I fear that we might just have another civil war, this time through the right attacking the left, physically, with guns.
There is a solution: Get this Administration to do the right thing and bring the crimes of the previous administration to full light and prosecute the criminals!
From an earllier post:
What concerns me even more is the way Obama is seemingly embracing and refusing to give up on some of Bush’s more disturbing policies…
Illegal wiretaps, Now Obama’s Justice department is arguing along the same lines that Bush’s did. If you were illegally spied on, you can’t sue! WTF!
Last night on Rachel’s show it was shown that now the Obama administration is embracing the Friday news dumb and the Bagram prisons. WTF!!!
What’s next? Torture is Okay too?!?!? Seriously, WTF!!!
I’m mad as hell. This is not the change I voted for! I seriously doubt any of you all are Ok with it either.
Something must be done to get this administration to grasp that The Crimes committed under the last administration must be brought to light and they must never happen again!
By continuing these horrific policies from the previous administration the fringe is left to believe that they were OK. In a “see, I told ya so” kinda way!
April 14th, 2009 at 1:35 pmDissent is the highest form of patriotism!
April 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pmright wing sabbatical Says:
Before the last election, the bumper sticker stated that dissent was the ultimate in patriotism. Now it is seen as dangerous radicalism. Which way is it? Now that the thugs rule patriots will have to watch their backsides.
You’re a mucking foron!
Dissent does not equal violence!
And you’ve pretty much labeled the left as criminals, and the right as heroes of country. You couldn’t be more polar opposite if you were a friggin’ magnet.
And nice addition of homophobia to complete your trifecta of dittohead concerns.
Oh wait, were you being sarcastic? Snarky? Stupid?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:37 pmright wing radical Says:
“Now that the thugs rule patriots will have to watch their backsides.”
i don’t remember ever seeing a bumpersticker that called for pouring gasoline over someone and setting them on fire a la’ becky and…that’s right, also a favorite method of lynching by the klan
April 14th, 2009 at 1:38 pmthe tea parties are not bothering me, why are they bothering you guys so much?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:39 pmWhy blame the troops?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pmaplbotm,
April 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pmno one was talking about the teabagging parties on this thread until you came along and brought it up.
how are the tea parties “right-wing radicalism”, have you seen the people that go to them?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:40 pmaplbotm Says:
“how are the tea parties “right-wing radicalism”, have you seen the people that go to them?”
are you serious? promoted by becky, cavuto, hannity malkin…
April 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pmaplbotm Says:
how are the tea parties “right-wing radicalism”, have you seen the people that go to them?
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have you?
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pmDr. Moth
Please provide proof you are intelligent.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:44 pmaplbotm Says:
how are the tea parties “right-wing radicalism”
Because they are bought and paid for by Republicans?
Wide eyed innocence hardly hides a troll.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:45 pmRP2012 Says:
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How about the Liberals who kill policemen? Ya know the guy who killed a few of em about a month ago and then a radical left wing group was protesting on the day of the funeral in praise of him because of police brutality? THERE IS RADICALS ON BOTH SIDES.
If you’re talking about the Pittsburgh incident you are dumber than a bag of Hammers.
If you’re not talking about the Pittsburgh incident, then I have no Idea what you’re talking about and I apologize for the Hammer thing, if it offended you.(stanard Repug non-apology-apology)
I live in Pittsburgh and the whack job that shot those three officers was a Marine dropout and right-wing-white-supremicist. or as the Repugs like to say, “The Base!”
April 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pmaplbotm Says:
Dissent is the highest form of patriotism!
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aplbotm’s idea of dissent.
:|
April 14th, 2009 at 1:46 pmThere is a big difference between stupid and ignorant. Ignorant can be cured with education.
Stupid is just…terminal.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pmaplbotm,
April 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pmhow does it feel to get teabagged by exxon mobil and other large corporations? afterall, they have sucked you into doing their dirty work via the astroturf teabagging parties
aplbotm Says:
Dr. Moth
Please provide proof you are intelligent.
***
please provide proof you exist.
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 1:47 pmpatriots will have to watch their backsides.”
Is this what the “patriots” do when they’re not teabagging? Watching each other’s backsides?
You petty little shits need to get a life and stop whining like a bunch of cur b*tchs. You lost. Get over it and help us make America the proud country we were before Bush wiped his ass with out Constitution.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pmThis report is a sham. It uses sweeping generalities and very little concrete examples (and about half of those are from the 1990s). And I love this footnote (emphasis added):
So I guess if you believe that a state can legalize medical marijuana, you’re a right-wing extremist, huh?
This is ridiculous. It is an attempt to paint a legitimate political philosophy with as wide a brush as possible in order to de-legitimize them, to turn them into the “hated Other”.
Later,
April 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pmcynicalgirl Says:
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Does anyone know how many people have been killed by ALF and ELF and other left-wing groups? As many as Tim McVeigh?
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In a word, no, but my guess is that if you could provide a single legitimate link to provide us with this important and thus-far unknown imformation you probably would have done it already.
Does anyone know how many people have been killed by Christmas presents dropped from Santa Claus’ sleigh as he soared overhead?
April 14th, 2009 at 1:51 pmCicero Says:
This report is a sham. It uses sweeping generalities and very little concrete examples (and about half of those are from the 1990s). And I love this footnote (emphasis added):
[Rightwing extremist groups include] those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely. It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration.
So I guess if you believe that a state can legalize medical marijuana, you’re a right-wing extremist, huh?
This is ridiculous. It is an attempt to paint a legitimate political philosophy with as wide a brush as possible in order to de-legitimize them, to turn them into the “hated Other”.
Later,
April 14th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
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2000 – 2008
the administration for george w. bush.
*
that was easy.
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pmI would like to nominate Cicero for the Weirdest Troll of the Day Award.
Sorry, applebottom.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:52 pmCicero says: So I guess if you believe that a state can legalize medical marijuana, you’re a right-wing extremist, huh?
Homeric.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:55 pmwoodguy Says:
cynicalgirl Says:
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Does anyone know how many people have been killed by ALF and ELF and other left-wing groups? As many as Tim McVeigh?
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In a word, no, but my guess is that if you could provide a single legitimate link to provide us with this important and thus-far unknown imformation you probably would have done it already.
Does anyone know how many people have been killed by Christmas presents dropped from Santa Claus’ sleigh as he soared overhead?
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“Santa Claus“?
it was a rented truck,
not a sleigh.
:|
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April 14th, 2009 at 1:55 pmWoo hoo! I was wondering if the government was paying attention.
But I wish they’d kept this confidential. It’s just going to fuel the Right’s paranoid delusions about how Obama is going to take their guns, the New World Order is watching, etc.
And yes, I realize there are extremists on both sides. But in our current situation, it’s not the left that’s hinting at an armed revolt against the elected administration, etc.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pmRP2012 Says
April 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
How about the Liberals who kill policemen? Ya know the guy who killed a few of em about a month ago and then a radical left wing group was protesting on the day of the funeral in praise of him because of police brutality? THERE IS RADICALS ON BOTH SIDES.
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Which event are you talking about? The guy who killed three police officers in Pittsburgh? That was a guy who was angry and paranoid — he claimed that “Obama was going to take (his) guns away”. Hardly a liberal viewpoint.
Or maybe you’re talking about the guy who shot and killed four police officers in Oakland? That was a parolee who was wanted for parole violation, caught in a routine traffic stop. His shooting was more out of desperation than political motivation. How do you figure he’s a “left-wing extremist”?
Do you have an actual link to an actual documented case of a “liberal” killing a police officer (or anybody else) for political reasons?
It can be assumed there are some crackpots on both sides. Nobody’s disputing that. But organized left-wing groups who actually go out and kill people for political reasons pretty much died out with the Symbionese Liberation Army.
And even during the worst of the Bush dictatorship, we didn’t have the AM radio waves full of rhetoric fueling paranoia among liberals to the point of violence.
Not like the guy who shot up the Unitarian church in Tennessee after being fired up by wingnut authors and pundits. He specifically went to a place where he could find a lot of “liberals” to kill, and he said he’d do it again. THAT’S violence motivated by political rhetoric — not a parole violator at a traffic stop.
In theory, extremists bent on violence are a danger to society no matter which end of the political spectrum they come from. But if you’re going to get us to believe that “liberals kill policemen”, you’re going to have to provide some proof.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:57 pmjoe cantwell writes:
??? Your point being…? (Minor nit, that would actually be 2001 – 2009.)
Hoodathunktick Says:
Huh. High praise indeed. I accept the nomination.
Later,
April 14th, 2009 at 2:00 pmTheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong Says:
If you’re talking about the Pittsburgh incident you are dumber than a bag of Hammers.
If you’re not talking about the Pittsburgh incident, then I have no Idea what you’re talking about and I apologize for the Hammer thing, if it offended you.(stanard Repug non-apology-apology)
I live in Pittsburgh and the whack job that shot those three officers was a Marine dropout and right-wing-white-supremicist. or as the Repugs like to say, “The Base!”
I am talking about the incident in Oakland California where three police officers were killied on March 21st. A radical left group protested and praised the ’suspect’ on the day of the funeral , justifying it by using the police brutality argument.
Oakland Police Department, CA
Sergeant Mark Dunakin
Oakland Police Department, CA
EOW: Saturday, March 21, 2009
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Oakland Police Department, CA Sergeant Daniel Sakai
Oakland Police Department, CA
EOW: Saturday, March 21, 2009
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Oakland Police Department, CA Sergeant Ervin Romans
Oakland Police Department, CA
EOW: Saturday, March 21, 2009
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Those are the officers that were killed and the organizer of the protest did an interview on Bill O’Reilly. Go ahead with the O’Reilly jokes.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pmCicero Says:
joe cantwell writes:
2000 – 2008
the administration for george w. bush.
??? Your point being…? (Minor nit, that would actually be 2001 – 2009.)
Hoodathunktick Says:
I would like to nominate Cicero for the Weirdest Troll of the Day Award.
Huh. High praise indeed. I accept the nomination.
Later,
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i can lead you to water,
but i can’t make you drink.
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point.
game.
set and match.
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want to try again?
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pmJoe @ 87,
Thanks. Heh.
:-}
April 14th, 2009 at 2:07 pmwoodguy Says:
Joe @ 87,
Thanks. Heh.
:-}
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helping you figure
it out is a challenge.
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need help tying your
shoelaces?
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pmright wing radical Says:
Before the last election, the bumper sticker stated that dissent was the ultimate in patriotism. Now it is seen as dangerous radicalism. Which way is it? Now that the thugs rule patriots will have to watch their backsides.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
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Dissent is the ultimate in patriotism. I like dissent, and am glad to see right-wing groups as well as left-wing groups mobilizing and protesting to make their views heard.
The problem is when the tone of that dissent takes on the ugly characteristics we’re seeing from the right – blatant lies about fascism and socialism and Obama=Hitlerism that seem to serve no purpose other than to motivate right-wing nut jobs to violence.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:09 pmHey, Joe,
You might want to re-read my post @83.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:12 pmLINK?
April 14th, 2009 at 2:15 pmCicero Says:
So I guess if you believe that a state can legalize medical marijuana, you’re a right-wing extremist, huh?
This is ridiculous. It is an attempt to paint a legitimate political philosophy with as wide a brush as possible in order to de-legitimize them, to turn them into the “hated Other”.
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Not as ridiculous as the republicans trying to legitimize their fear-mongering, culture of hate political philosophy because they lost and the republicans are the “hated other.”
TALK ABOUT THE CULT OF PERSONALITY!!!!!
April 14th, 2009 at 2:16 pmWoodguy, it still reads the same.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:17 pmMalkin’s mad as a hatter! The DHS only stated the obvious.
Let the rightwingnutconservativecrazies come on out of their caves wearing their KKK robes, burning crosses, wearing swastikas and confederate flags! Bring those signs with SOCIALIST emblazoned on them. Let the world see who they really are and what they’re really all about: NOTHING BUT HATE!
April 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pmRP2012 already offerred proof: that pillar of journalistic integrity bill o’lielly “reported” on it
April 14th, 2009 at 2:20 pmLefty interpretation of dissent: Dis ent what I want to see my government doing.
Righty interpretation of dissent: Dis ent a decent gun. How’m I supposed to shoot lots of folks with a single shot?
April 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pmjoe cantwell says:
Huh. Not just de-legitimization, here, but outright dehumanization, now.
Next you’ll be saying I need to be put down.
I can set the facts before you,
but I can’t make you think.
He shoots, he scores.
(Two can play at this game.)
Later,
April 14th, 2009 at 2:21 pmwoodguy Says:
Hey, Joe,
You might want to re-read my post @83.
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woodguy Says:
cynicalgirl Says:
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Does anyone know how many people have been killed by ALF and ELF and other left-wing groups? As many as Tim McVeigh?
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In a word, no, but my guess is that if you could provide a single legitimate link to provide us with this important and thus-far unknown imformation you probably would have done it already.
Does anyone know how many people have been killed by Christmas presents dropped from Santa Claus’ sleigh as he soared overhead?
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you might want to check
this out.
:)
imfow
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pmwoodguy Says:
Hey, Joe,
You might want to re-read my post @83.
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woodguy Says:
cynicalgirl Says:
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Does anyone know how many people have been killed by ALF and ELF and other left-wing groups? As many as Tim McVeigh?
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In a word, no, but my guess is that if you could provide a single legitimate link to provide us with this important and thus-far unknown imformation you probably would have done it already.
Does anyone know how many people have been killed by Christmas presents dropped from Santa Claus’ sleigh as he soared overhead?
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you might want to check
this out.
:)
imfow
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 2:22 pmYa gots to love Republican math and logic. A+B= See you really just want to make fun of my mother’s footware!
April 14th, 2009 at 2:23 pmCicero Says:
joe cantwell says:
i can lead you to water,
but i can’t make you drink.
Huh. Not just de-legitimization, here, but outright dehumanization, now.
Next you’ll be saying I need to be put down.
I can set the facts before you,
but I can’t make you think.
He shoots, he scores.
(Two can play at this game.)
Later,
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did i de- you?
sorry dude.
:(
April 14th, 2009 at 2:23 pmAnother fine example of a tea bagger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JteMzV81Ij8&feature=channel_page
April 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pmCicero Says:
This is ridiculous. It is an attempt to paint a legitimate political philosophy with as wide a brush as possible in order to de-legitimize them, to turn them into the “hated Other”.
I disagree, rightwing extremists have done a fine job of de-legitimizing themselves. It’s not an attempt by the DHS, just an observation of you extremist wingnuts making fools of yourselves over ‘issues’ that have no basis, cause or facts to back them up except ignorance, rascism and hatred.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:28 pmRP2012,
Your wrong in saying that the “radical liberals” were protesting the Oakland police shootings. The citizens of Oakland were scared to go out of their houses. The reality is of the police being really angry (after the shootings), scared and targeting people who they perceive to be a threat. You know they’re going to want a sense of retribution or justice. They weren’t protesting at all.
Your dumber than Bush for even thinking ‘radical liberals” were protesting the shootings of these officers.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pmjoe cantwell Says:
S’okay. No harm, no foul.
Later,
April 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pmRP2012 Says:
Go ahead with the O’Reilly jokes.
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o’reilly writes his own material.
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April 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pmJoe,
Guess I must have misread cynicalgal’s original post.
Carry on.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:31 pmCicero Says:
joe cantwell Says:
did i de- you?
sorry dude.
S’okay. No harm, no foul.
Later,
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would you like a hankie?
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April 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pmwoodguy Says:
Joe,
Guess I must have misread cynicalgal’s original post.
Carry on.
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apology accepted.
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April 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pmRight wing extremists have ALWAYS been a focal point of the FBI.
Or did Michelle Malkin forget that it was right wing Extremist Timothy McVeigh and his right wing extremist group “Elohim City” that blew a whole in the side of the Oklahoma Federal Building killing hundreds of Americans, mostly Federal employees?
I don’t recall “left wing extremists” doing anything so horrific. So its natural that the FBI would focus on Right Wing Extremists which is just a fancy word for Domestic Terrorists.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pmLikewise.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:33 pmProud Says:
The report is correct, we need to start locking up those on the right wing. Anyone who diagrees with the Messiah Obama needs to be silenced. Reminds me of how Hitler dealt with those pesky Jews, I am sure someone wrote up a similar report for him back in the day.
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they wrote something like this.
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April 14th, 2009 at 2:34 pmI can`t believe that these losers form 06 & 08 are getting away with this bull$hit.Whiny cryee spit up losers is what they all are.I am sure as hell that real conservatives like Lincoln.Ike and Goldwater are spinning in their graves at this egregious attempts by the Reich to make Obama and his administration look like socialist after 8 years of Reich Wing Christo Fascism.If we on the left had done anything of this magnitude as sure as the Pope is Catholic we would have had a Civil war and the Shrub would of had no problem with using Posse Commatatus.I really wish the Reich would stay marginalized and let the real Americans run this country the way it was founded based on “WE the people”.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pmwoodguy Says:
Likewise.
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earthlink.
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 2:36 pmDr. Moth Matt Says: (101)
Okay, how about this: (Note, I give this as proof of the incident, not necessarily of the alleged political motivations of either the shooter or the rally members. I haven’t read enough about this to really say either way.)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/25/BADD16N9VP.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea
Dozens march for Mixon, against police
About 60 people marched and rallied in Oakland on Wednesday to condemn the police and honor Lovelle Mixon, who was killed by Oakland police after he fatally shot four officers Saturday.
“OPD you can’t hide – we charge you with genocide,” chanted the demonstrators as they marched along MacArthur Boulevard, near the intersection with 74th Avenue where Mixon, 26, a fugitive parolee, gunned down two motorcycle officers who had pulled him over in a traffic stop. He killed two more officers who tried to capture him where he was hiding in his sister’s apartment nearby.
The protest was organized by the Oakland branch of the Uhuru Movement, whose flyers for the march declared, “Stop Police Terror.” Many marchers wore T-shirts featuring Mixon’s photo, including a woman identified by march organizers as Mixon’s mother. The woman declined to comment and gave her name only as Athena.
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Later,
April 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pmYou keep saying “later” indicating your departure, yet you’re still here…
April 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pmAnd while Michele Malkin is looking up the Oklahoma City bombing, someone might also point out to her that in all of US History it was only Right Wing Extremists who have managed to assassinate a US President, thus far.
Just have her google John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald.
So naturally the FBI, not to mention the Secret Service have ample cause to be concerned with Right Wing Extremist groups.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:39 pmProud says: Reminds me of how Hitler dealt with those pesky Jews,
Strikingly so. Hitler portrayed them as the cause of Germany’s problems without a stitch of evidence.
That is why they call it propaganda.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:40 pmCicero Says:
Dr. Moth Matt Says: (101)
Proof?
Okay, how about this: (Note, I give this as proof of the incident, not necessarily of the alleged political motivations of either the shooter or the rally members. I haven’t read enough about this to really say either way.)
http://www.sfgate.com/ cgi-bin/ article.cgi?f=/ c/ a/ 2009/ 03/ 25/ BADD16N9VP.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea
Dozens march for Mixon, against police
About 60 people marched and rallied in Oakland on Wednesday to condemn the police and honor Lovelle Mixon, who was killed by Oakland police after he fatally shot four officers Saturday.
“OPD you can’t hide – we charge you with genocide,” chanted the demonstrators as they marched along MacArthur Boulevard, near the intersection with 74th Avenue where Mixon, 26, a fugitive parolee, gunned down two motorcycle officers who had pulled him over in a traffic stop. He killed two more officers who tried to capture him where he was hiding in his sister’s apartment nearby.
The protest was organized by the Oakland branch of the Uhuru Movement, whose flyers for the march declared, “Stop Police Terror.” Many marchers wore T-shirts featuring Mixon’s photo, including a woman identified by march organizers as Mixon’s mother. The woman declined to comment and gave her name only as Athena.
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Later,
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“dozens”?
yes we must keep a close eye
on the uhuru movement.
;<|
April 14th, 2009 at 2:41 pmwags Says:
Cicero Says: Later,
You keep saying “later” indicating your departure, yet you’re still here…
***
he wants to make sure
you know he’s a liar.
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 2:43 pmProud Says:
The report is correct, we need to start locking up those on the right wing. Anyone who diagrees with the Messiah Obama needs to be silenced. Reminds me of how Hitler dealt with those pesky Jews, I am sure someone wrote up a similar report for him back in the day.
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Twisted logic of events. Did your “daddy” limpballs put you up to your post? And as I recalled it was Bush and his goon squad that silence anyone who disagreed with them.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pmDozens. As in Dunkin Donuts?
Did they have nukes?
April 14th, 2009 at 2:44 pmProud Says:
“Anyone who diagrees with the Messiah Obama needs to be silenced.”
What do you guys disagree on that Bush didn’t lay the groundwork for? No really.
I’m just trying to see if you guys have any actual complaints because I haven’t heard a rational one yet. Help me out.
April 14th, 2009 at 2:48 pmSo, your one piece of support in your argument regarding liberals committing violence because of their ideology is this?
You’re sticking with this?
April 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pmWhy would a concern troll named for a Roman statesman keep promising to go away, but just keeps lurking around waiting for some imaginary victory?
April 14th, 2009 at 2:57 pmRP2012 Says
April 14th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
How about the Liberals who kill policemen?
RP2012 Says
April 14th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I am talking about the incident in Oakland California where three police officers were killied on March 21st. A radical left group protested and praised the ’suspect’ on the day of the funeral , justifying it by using the police brutality argument.
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OK, but did the “radical left group” who protested actually kill any policemen? Did they kill anybody? Did they even engage in any violence at all?
I don’t agree with their viewpoint, but I will defend their right to PEACEFULLY protest even if I don’t agree with what they have to say. I similarly support the right of anybody to exercise their first amendment rights, no matter what their political ideology is. All patriotic Americans should.
You have yet to show any examples of liberals killing policemen.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:01 pmRUCeriousDragonfly Says:
Concern troll? I thought I was the Weirdest Troll?
Can I be both?
Hasta, (just changing things up a bit)
April 14th, 2009 at 3:04 pmRP2012 Says:
There are people on the fringe on both sides. How about the fact that the FBI’s most wanted list contains 3 ‘environmental activist’? This is a game and senseless game.
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Yeah there are nuts on both sides here is the difference. Name ONE person who has DIED in an act of environmental ‘terrorism’. The last time I looked it had never happened. Which makes the term itself kind of silly.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:06 pmCicero Says:
RUCeriousDragonfly Says:
Why would a concern troll…
Concern troll? I thought I was the Weirdest Troll?
Can I be both?
Hasta, (just changing things up a bit)
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as long as you’re wearing your tin foil hat
you can be anything you want.
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 3:07 pmright wing radical Says:
Before the last election, the bumper sticker stated that dissent was the ultimate in patriotism. Now it is seen as dangerous radicalism. Which way is it? Now that the thugs rule patriots will have to watch their backsides.
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So you are saying you dont know the difference between protest and dissent and violent terrorism? The DHS isnt worried these guys are going to do street theater or start a protest.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pmThe biggest problem we seem to have is that there is no longer an investigative news media to provide information about things like the incident in Oakland. If there were protesters, why were there protesters? News used to supply something other than governmental press releases.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:11 pmaplbotm Says:
The teabag protests arent bothering me nor are they mentioned in this article. Do you know how to read? THIS is talking about the threat of rightwing groups comitting violent acts not showing up with a box of Lipton tea.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:13 pmaplbotm Says:
Dr. Moth
Please provide proof you are intelligent.
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Your post is all the proof we need to know you are an ignorant troll and a stupid brainwashed punk
April 14th, 2009 at 3:15 pmThe republicans are in desperation mode. They are trying to recruit members of the “truth movement” to broaden their voter base. They are also catering to the ultra right extremists who are hateful and dangerous. But just as the GOP USE Christ, 9/11, our soldiers, the words and events of our founding fathers, to help get them re-elected they will also use those in the “truth movement” to get back in power in 2010 and 2012.
If Satan had millions of American followers I have no doubt that the GOP would try to recruit them too.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:16 pmPerhaps Lipton should start put “Missing” on their Tea packages and show photo’s of all the republicans who have been voted out of office in 2006 and 2008.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:18 pmRP2012 Says:
Ok so a lefty group protested a funeral. That would be in poor taste in my opinion are you going to cough up some evidence that the guy who DID THE KILLING was a liberal?
April 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pmjoe cantwell says:
Ahhh, but what brand of tinfoil? Is the generic store brand good enough, or should I shell out for the Reynolds?
Hasta,
April 14th, 2009 at 3:20 pmIts not the left wing that worships guns.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:21 pmProud Says:
We need to start shunning ignorant moronic trolls like you. Punks who never bring a thing to any discussion. MORONS who troll website just to show how stupid and pathetic they are.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pmProud Says
April 14th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
“The report is correct, we need to start locking up those on the right wing.”
– Where in the report does it say we need to lock up people merely because their political ideology is right-wing?
“Anyone who diagrees with the Messiah Obama needs to be silenced.”
– Where in the report does it say we need to “silence” anyone who disagrees with President Obama? If you’ve been paying attention to this blogsite, you’d know that even we “flaming liberals” disagree with him now and then. And I won’t even get into your childish use of the term “Messiah” — a sarcastic label put on him by his opponents, not a viewpoint held by his supporters.
“Reminds me of how Hitler dealt with those pesky Jews, I am sure someone wrote up a similar report for him back in the day.”
– Now you’re comparing President Obama to Adolph Hitler? Your desperation is showing. If you are going to refute the report, you need to do a better job than this.
The report isn’t talking about people who disagree with the President. The report isn’t talking about people who lean conservative politically. The report is talking about people who make threats, advocate violence, and actually commit acts of violence — a cause of concern no matter who does these things. And right now, there seems to be a bigger danger of that from the right than from the left.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:25 pmThe irony of all these “conservative” media types calling Obama a “Nazi”, “fascist”, etc. is that they seems to totally ignore history; Hitler, Mussolini and the political movements they belonged to were all conservative right-wingers, just like them. Hitler campaigned on the same platform of ideas that these people are promoting today.
The level of ignorance on the conservative side is truly breathtaking.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:25 pmCicero Says:
joe cantwell says:
as long as you’re wearing your tin foil hat
you can be anything you want.
Ahhh, but what brand of tinfoil? Is the generic store brand good enough, or should I shell out for the Reynolds?
Hasta,
***
still not ready to make a decision on your own?
we understand. better check with fox news first,
eh?
:)
April 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
Proud wasnt trying to make sense he does the only thing someone as stupid as him CAN do. He took a shot at annoying us. He knows he is far too stupid to actually have a discussion so he came in and vomited stupidity on the screen. He is a punk without even the HOPE of higher brain function. He uses each thread as an excuse to shoehorn a couple of Rush Limbaugh talking points into an inane and ignorant post.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:29 pmThat wasn’t a liberal, that was a criminal. And people in Okland are understandably a little touchy right now due to the police murder of Oscar Grant. Also the Uhuru movement are willing to jump on anything to get a little press, even something as wrong as this. The parole violator was going to go off and kill a bunch of people someday anyway – this is what happens when you spend more on prisons than on schools for a few decaeds.
I wouldn’t asy this is any kind of “left-wing” killer, just another poor black man with no options, terrified of life behind bars.
And yes, I live in Oakland. It’s a nice town, you just hear about the murders as they are sensational.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:30 pmI wonder if this right wing crybaby fest will continue or fizzle out? It’s only three months into Obama’s presidency and they’re still in denial about losing. On the other hand, I don’t see their hysteria subsiding. Eh, F uck em all anyway.
April 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pmUnfortunately, not a surprise:
*) bad economy putting people, especially unskilled workers, out of jobs
*) black President
*) Fear mongering hate radio
April 14th, 2009 at 3:51 pmCicero Says:
Okay, how about this: (Note, I give this as proof of the incident, not necessarily of the alleged political motivations of either the shooter or the rally members. I haven’t read enough about this to really say either way.)
http://www.sfgate.com/ cgi-bin/ article.cgi?f=/ c/ a/ 2009/ 03/ 25/ BADD16N9VP.DTL&feed=rss.bayarea
Dozens march for Mixon, against police
April 14th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
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Thanks for the proof that there’s a lot of tension between African-Americans and law enforcement, particularly in the greater San Francisco area.
That has absolutely nothing to do with radicalism or liberalism or progressive politics and everything to do with the lingering vestiges of entrenched racism in this country that many on the right like to pretend no longer exists.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pmNewt Gingrich tweets: “The person who drafted the outrageous homeland security memo smearing veterans and conservatives should be fired”
So Newt, do you agree that everyone that called the very men and women who are in the field in Iraq that didn’t know what they were fighting for, PHONEY SOLDIERS, should recieve the same punishment?
If so, then 80% of the conservative talkers in the media should be added to the list…
(still surprised that man knows how to use twitter)
April 14th, 2009 at 4:17 pmWTF are Cicero and Proud posting about???
April 14th, 2009 at 4:21 pmSKdeAnt Says:
I am talking about the incident in Oakland California where three police officers were killied on March 21st. A radical left group protested and praised the ’suspect’ on the day of the funeral , justifying it by using the police brutality argument.
That wasn’t a liberal, that was a criminal. And people in Okland are understandably a little touchy right now due to the police murder of Oscar Grant. Also the Uhuru movement are willing to jump on anything to get a little press, even something as wrong as this. The parole violator was going to go off and kill a bunch of people someday anyway – this is what happens when you spend more on prisons than on schools for a few decaeds.
I wouldn’t asy this is any kind of “left-wing” killer, just another poor black man with no options, terrified of life behind bars.
And yes, I live in Oakland. It’s a nice town, you just hear about the murders as they are sensational.”
So when a poor black man kills three cops and it is basically applauded by a radical left wing group it isn’t political? He’s just a criminal? Of course he is just a criminal and a crazy bastard at that. Just like the guy who went out and killed cops because he had a fight with his mother about a cat peeing on his floor. He was a conspiracy theorist that was more of an anarchist than anything on the ‘right’. No sane person supports this killing and I don’t really know of any protesters praising this guy. So this is grasping at straws and like I said before there is a fringe element on both sides. ELF anybody??
April 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pmJust like the guy who went out and killed cops because he had a fight with his mother about a cat peeing on his floor. He was a conspiracy theorist that was more of an anarchist than anything on the ‘right’.
And the fact that he referenced people on the left in his eliminationist rant, was just a coincidence?
Baloney.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:37 pmOkay, I must be missing something.
Which radical left wing group murdered innocents?
Not PROTESTED, but murdered!
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April 14th, 2009 at 4:43 pm*
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I’ll wait
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barfly,
let’s not forget the Pittsburgh police killer who harbored ill towards Obama because he was going to take his guns away.
Or the church killer who had enough of “liberals”.
Again, so far, no proof on radical left wingers killing.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:45 pmRP2012 Says
April 14th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
So this is grasping at straws and like I said before there is a fringe element on both sides. ELF anybody??
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Nobody is disputing there are some extremists on both ends of the political spectrum. What we’re disputing is your assertion that liberals kill policemen.
Which you are curiously silent about — except for your repeated attempts to claim that the Uhuru protesters somehow back up your claim.
And now you bring up ELF? Please prove to us they’ve killed somebody. Yes, they commit acts of vandalism and property damage (which I personally don’t condone), but I don’t think they’re into killing people.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:48 pmThese people scare me.
April 14th, 2009 at 4:54 pmWhen was the last time a leftie baracaded themselves in their house with tons of weapons because they were pissed about taxes and the big bad government and threatened the lifes of an law enforcement officers who dared come and get them?
April 14th, 2009 at 4:56 pmRP2012 Says:
So when a poor black man kills three cops and it is basically applauded by a radical left wing group it isn’t political? He’s just a criminal?
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So are you a moron or just being a jerk. It was YOU that said what about the LIBERAL WHO KILLED… His answer wasnt an appology for the murder it was pointing out the man was NOT A LIBERAL LIKE YOU CLAIMED. Either cough up evidence this guy is a liberal or admit your original claim was so much hoooey
April 14th, 2009 at 5:01 pmRP2012 Says:
I am talking about the incident in Oakland California where three police officers were killied on March 21st. A radical left group protested and praised the ’suspect’ on the day of the funeral , justifying it by using the police brutality argument.
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Your wrong again the people who did the protesting were mostly gang members not the “radical left group.”And why does it have to be a “poor black man?” Was it not a “poor white kid” that killed those Police Officers in Pittsburgh?
YOUR GETTING DUMBER BY THE MINUTE AND STOP WITH THE RACE BAITING. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR READY TO GO OFF AND KILL A BUNCH OF PEOPLE?
April 14th, 2009 at 5:02 pmIt’s good to see all of the mature, open-minded, loony lefties out on a beautiful day. I’m sure even the crazy left can see that this DHS report isn’t worth the paper it is written on and that it feeds the fire for anti-Obama rhetoric. People, this report is an absolute farce and it does nothing but make reasonable people listen more closely to those who say this administration has an agenda against freedom loving Americans. The Tea parties are tomorrow and this is just the ammo they need to make us look stupid. Grow up, get with the program and start questioning Napolitano’s fitness for Director. She is flailing about like a Somali pirate upon his first SEAL encounter.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pmBTW, Bonat, it wasn’t gun toting rednecks lamenting the poor serial rapist and murderer of police. See my post above. We need to get real and admit when our side is acting stupid. We’re a little drunk on power I’m afraid. This is no time to act like big dogs. It’s time to solve real problems.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pmThe authoritarian right wing leadership is not concerned with a few of their followers shooting others, or, for that matter, getting shot up at one of these hate rallies tomorrow. The corporatist backing their foolish followers have no consciousness; they want something to exploit. There is nothing better than a few martyrs for the “revolution” in their cold, maggot-gutted minds. They want the blood to exploit and blame it on Obama. I honestly wouldn’t mind if they’d blow themselves up with their leaders tomorrow…less of them in prison on my tax dollar.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:46 pmdrew3rd Says:
And it is always good to see the incredibly stupid rightwing nuts like you coming in here telling us your opinion is a fact instead of what it is a delusional fantasy. You are a moron
April 14th, 2009 at 5:48 pmdrew3rd Says: The Tea parties are tomorrow and this is just the ammo they need to make us look stupid.
Such a simple mind. Like you guys need any help with that.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:50 pmdrew 3rd= the two ahead of him got all the brains.
April 14th, 2009 at 5:51 pmLimbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Beck, Bachmann, Bachus, etc have been playing a very dangerous game. They are fanning the flames of bigotry through their manipulative, disingenuous association of Obama and the Democrats in Congress with terms such as “Socialist”, “Communist”, “Fascist” and “un-American”. They claim to speak on behalf of most Americans, but they actually are primarily drawing the right-wing fringe to their cause. The Aryan Brotherhood, the KKK, the John Birch Society, etc regard themselves as their peeps.
The more that these bombastic, bellicose, self-serving commentators and politicians promote a message of hatred and fear about Obama and his policies, the greater the probability that some wacko extremist will take their message too literally and respond violently against anyone who they feel is not “American” in their eyes.
April 14th, 2009 at 6:02 pmas a country declines more right wing hate groups will arise from the ashes.
look at germany in the 30’s
April 14th, 2009 at 6:04 pmYes, he is a criminal. He violated his parole by having guns. The cops did their job and died in the line of duty, sadly.
Except that he had right wing political views. I don’t see much anarchistic about his racist rants.
You’re right, no sane people are. But if they did, they would have the right in this country to protest. It’s a red herring you are laying out here – you said there was a LIBERAL killer in Oakland. Do you have any links to support this theory? Did you know the guy personally or something? Just because someone decided to protest does not mean the killer shared their political views.
I’ll say you’re grasping at straws! I agree there is a fringe element on both sides. But the rightist fringe are the ones who go out and kill people. The leftist ones protest, which is legal.
And I personally don’t believe in elves…
April 14th, 2009 at 7:25 pmbonat Says:
Hey Bonat, just to be fair, RP2012 was not the one who used the phrase “poor black” . I meant poor as in pitiable – up against the cops in Oakland, that certainly doesn’t help. And yes, the guy was a danger and they had no choice but to kill him. it was all very sad from all sides.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:29 pmDid that guy in Oakland place those policemen facedown and shackled before he shot them?
Just wondering what the definition of terrorism is now?
April 14th, 2009 at 7:46 pmJust wondering what the definition of terrorism is now?
Ambushing law enforcement in a deadly, premeditated manner, in political retaliation for perceived threats from a political group, would be one.
April 14th, 2009 at 7:56 pmTerrorism=the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political gains.
The word was used to describe support for the Jacobins during the French Revolution, who supported using violence and repression to achieve democracy……
April 14th, 2009 at 7:56 pmThe 2009 Oakland police shootings took place on Saturday, March 21, 2009, when four Oakland, California police officers were killed by a convicted felon wanted on a no-bail warrant for a parole violation. The convicted felon, Lovelle Mixon, shot and killed four Oakland police officers, two during a routine traffic stop and two when SWAT team officers attempted to apprehend him two hours later. Mixon staged an ambush of the police from his hiding place and was killed in a barrage of gunfire as officers returned fire in self-defense.[1]
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Hmm, nope don’t see a POLITICAL agenda there barfly. Just a 3 or 4 time loser who violated his parole and didn’t want to go back to prison, eh?
Next example of “left wing” terrorism please…..
April 14th, 2009 at 7:59 pmbbzzzzzz, time’s up….
How about if 4-5 transit cops place a black man face down then a white cop shoots him to death in the back.
Is that considered terrorism?
April 14th, 2009 at 8:07 pmwoke,
Yes it is.
April 14th, 2009 at 9:13 pmEugene atrax robustus Debs Says:
RP2012 Says:
So when a poor black man kills three cops and it is basically applauded by a radical left wing group it isn’t political? He’s just a criminal?
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So are you a moron or just being a jerk. It was YOU that said what about the LIBERAL WHO KILLED… His answer wasnt an appology for the murder it was pointing out the man was NOT A LIBERAL LIKE YOU CLAIMED. Either cough up evidence this guy is a liberal or admit your original claim was so much hoooey
Yes I’m sure that a black man in Oakland California is a Republican. COME ON. My point was that the killing by the crazy black guy and the crazy white guy weren’t politically motivated. The crazy white guy did express insanity through conspiracy theories and fearing the government was coming to get him. But the straw that broke the camels back was a cat peeing on his floor. Crazy people will think crazy things and no one but those two men are responsible for their actions…….. and yes I made a generalization about a black guy.
April 14th, 2009 at 11:23 pmRP2012 Says:
So NOW you are just LYING
Yes I’m sure that a black man in Oakland California is a Republican. COME ON.
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Ah NO you are LYING that wasnt your point. Not that it wasnt political. You said WHAT ABOUT THE LIBERAL… Your POINT was that this LIBERAL killed some cops except your example WASNT of a liberal just someone who comitted a murder. So stop LYING to make a point and remember the first rule of holes and STOP DIGGING
April 14th, 2009 at 11:34 pmLet me try again a paragraph disappeared.
California is a Republican. COME ON.
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You SAID a liberal killed those cops not a Democrat. You dont even KNOW he was a Democrat. So you are now admitting you pulled that directly out of your A$$
My point was that the killing by the crazy black guy and the crazy white guy weren’t politically motivated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ah NO you are LYING that wasnt your point. Not that it wasnt political. You said WHAT ABOUT THE LIBERAL… Your POINT was that this LIBERAL killed some cops except your example WASNT of a liberal just someone who comitted a murder. So stop LYING to make a point and remember the first rule of holes and STOP DIGGING
April 14th, 2009 at 11:38 pmEugene atrax robustus Debs Says:
Yes I made an assumption that a black guy from Oakland California is a liberal. That assumption (which has a 99.9% chance of being correct) was to prove a point. Again I will explain this to you…On this site people were associating the police officer killings of a crazy conspiracy theorist with the ‘right’. I simply made the point that it has nothing to do with politics so to prod and yes in a sarcastic fashion is said “how about liberals who kill police officers?” and again I was assuming that the black inner city thug would lean slightly to the left. You obviously missed the sarcasm and the point.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:00 amThank you very much.
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An ASS umption is right….and see how it turned out? You made an ass out of yourself twisting facts to suit your partisan politics. The cop killer was an ex con, who was stopped for a traffic offense and shot cops with the gun he was not allowed to possess. Nothing political at all. Terrorism indicates violence attempting to promote a political aim.
So, as usual, the right wingers attempt to twist facts and lie to suit themselves and their political agenda……nothing new there, eh?
LMFAO
April 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pmOh what progress we’ve made. You know, there are left hate groups as well. Black Panthers for all of you who love to shout KKK. This seems like a deep seeded race issue most of you are talking about. So let’s call it like we see it. The majority of the right wing don’t belong to all of these organizations. We aren’t skin heads, Nazis, or anything of the like. We are hard working Americans who love the country and will die to defend it and the constitution. We don’t want harm to come to anyone. We just want to be able to say at the end of the day that we worked hard and have something to show for it. We don’t want government money! We are proud and want no welfare from our government. Some of you on the other hand love taking our hard earned money from us. This will not be taken without our voices being heard. Thus the tea parties. We have just as much of a voice as you do. Or have we gone to the point of saying no voice will be heard except ours? You cried and screamed at Bush for 8 years. You demonized him, put him down, made fun of him and his family, put devil horns on every picture you could get your hands on and yet you whine some more if we don’t like Obama’s policy. Well how is this any different? I think we could all find some common ground, but we are too busy playing political hopscotch and have forgotten that we are all friends, family, and neighbors. We don’t have to agree all of the time, but we do have to get along. There are going to be people on both sides who get carried away, but not all. I for one love my guns and religion. This does not give me the right to push my way of life on all of the others who don’t think nor believe the way I do. Just as I would hope others would have the courtesy of not doing to me and people like me. The thought of the left calling the right terrorists is disgraceful! We didn’t even stoop so low. Go home and think for a moment. If we were invaded by another country, would you care what my political views were? Or would you say to me go get your gun! We need you to help. FYI most of the men and women in the military are conservatives. I’m just saying lets get it together before it’s too late to save our country from another revolution that will be started by too much media and political BS.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:14 pmUh, gee, ever study the history of the Black Panthers buddy. They were eliminated by the police and FBI many decades ago.
How is it different to “demonize” obama, as you claim was done to lilaWol you want to know?
Well, genius,……
1. Did RICH dems create protests because a state’s rights, legal recount in Fla was STOPPED by his daddy’s cronys before the votes could all be counted and while aWol was ahead by a few hundred votes, although he garnered HALF A MILLION less votes?
2. Has Obama even been in office for 3 months yet? Did he do anything but SIGN a bill SPONSORED BY REPUGS, (remember how mccain stopped his campaign in a big show to insure bailout was passed?)
3. Did lilaWol screw the pooch or what? Are you so blinded by right wing indoctination that you cannot see the total FAILURE of his policies, both economic and foreign?
4. Common Ground? How about stfu, pay your taxes like we all do, and get behind a NEW POTUS elected by a wide mandate to FIX the FAILURES of the last 8 years?
5. Tell us genius, WHY would you protest a tax code that gives YOU and 95% of American working people a tax break and asks the RICH 5% to pay a little bit more?
6. As far as being invaded occupied by a foreign country……hmmmm. Who borrowed BILLIONS from Japan, Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, and commie China to invade/occupy a country THAT DID NOT ATTACK US??
get a frickin clue buddy…..
There is not much intelligence in protesting tax rates that help 95% of Americans imho.
And btw, MOST repugs I’ve met never fought in any frickin wars……but support sending other people to do it for them…
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