Top federal income tax rate in 1944-45: 94%

Top federal income tax rate in 1952-53: 92%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States#History_of_top_rates

Got google?

Didn’t think so.

You tell Ralph to “site sources” yet you have none. Thanks for playing, though.

slip_left Says:
yelena amorbus alternatus vee Says:
nuna #137 said; Only in the last thirty years or so, all these entitlement programs popped up.

but what about
#136; when FDR introduced his socialistic agenda

Please tell me that have not just postulated that these two items are indeed mutually exclusive?! The only point you made in this post is that you fail to make a point!

What safety net programs have popped up in the last thirty years?

Safety net programs like Social security date to the FDR era, as yelena pointed out. Unemployment insurance was also established in the thirties under Roosevelt.

I think nuna’s argument that “Only in the last thirty years or so, all these entitlement programs popped up” can safely be dismissed as fantasy, and yelena’s point is not pretty clearly made, despite your desire to dismiss it.

slip_left Says:
Dr. Moth Matt Says:
95% of tax payers are receiving a tax cut. Again, are you really this fing stupid? The answer really is appearing to be “yes”.

WHAT?!!! No, no my friend. Returns during tax season do not make-up for increases in capital gains taxes, gasoline, taxes, cigarette taxes, death tax, sales tax, property tax, business tax trhough regulations,etc…the list goes on. What are you smoking?? Fanboy with no brain, makes me ashamed to have fought for you.

Of course, simply naming a bunch of taxes does nothing to prove your point that any of those have gone up, without specific information related to each, with relevant links. Especially when you try to extend your bogus point with an et cetera following something as amorphous as “business tax trhough regulations”.

Your use of the inaccurate term “death tax” rather than the more properly descriptive “estate tax” (after all, most people who die are not subject to this tax — only those with significant estates) further reduces your credibility. As does your casual dismissal of the good doctor’s character and reasoning ability, based on your self-serving re-imagining of the argument he advanced.

Other than that, you did fine.

but what about
#136; when FDR introduced his socialistic agenda

Please tell me that have not just postulated that these two items are indeed mutually exclusive?! The only point you made in this post is that you fail to make a point!

but what about
#136; when FDR introduced his socialistic agenda
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Got to go
Sorry, love to chat all nite, but have responsibilities.
Good nite Jb

why do wingnuts always feel the need to announce their departure?

bravo

It would be like me blaming everything on Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich. Sure they’re awful, but it takes a lot more than that to destroy the world. People who aren’t morons understand such concepts. Still follow me?

Uh, I think so? But also, people who aren’t morons would blame DeLay and Gingrich as equally as Frank, Dodd, et al. The goal is to be objective and not tolerate failure. Shame on you for being a democratic pundit. If this is your cause then your argumanets have no further purpose in regard to truth.

WHAT?!!! No, no my friend. Returns during tax season do not make-up for increases in capital gains taxes, gasoline, taxes, cigarette taxes, death tax, sales tax, property tax, business tax trhough regulations,etc…the list goes on. What are you smoking?? Fanboy with no brain, makes me ashamed to have fought for you.

I took a hiatus to eat, drink and be merry for awhile, but I appreciate your reasoned approach and patience with “nuna”. To my mind anyone who begins their posting telling one and all about their poverty stricken childhood and how they’ve overcome all sorts of obstacles automatically makes them suspect. Many of us have had to deal with hardships thoughout our lives, but someone who wears what they consider to be an extraordinary ability to overcome them on their sleeve always sets off my BS-dar.

In any event, thanks for arguing so eloquently with someone with whom I would have had much less patience and grace.

What I don’t hear anyone complaining about is those who got us in this situation. Why isn’t your anger being directed at Barney Franks and Chris Dodd?

Yes, those two minority party Senators were personally responsible for completely destroying the mortgage industry. We’ve heard it, and debunked it, before. Barney Frank is apparently fukcing omnipotent, when even with no power whatsoever, he can control multiple industries by fiat. Or something. Because Republicans are apparently nowhere to be found when it turns out all the fukcups happened.

It would be like me blaming everything on Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich. Sure they’re awful, but it takes a lot more than that to destroy the world. People who aren’t morons understand such concepts. Still follow me?

Didn’t think so.

I’m a simple person…

Got it.

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nuna Says:

…who was raised to believe that successful people (monetarily speaking) get there by working harder than the rest. So far, it’s worked for me. I’ve never asked for a hand out, even when I desperately needed one. Maybe the norms of society is stacked against the common man, but I guess that we all have to stop putting road blocks in front of ourselves and believe in ourselves and encourage others to do the same…

That’s great. You keep on keeping on. I’ll do the same. But let’s all quit making it into a grand romantic “bootstrap” story that doesn’t exist. We’re all working hard and scraping by. We’re going to need to help each other out to get out of this mess. But some of you want to keep everything you make, and not share with others. That’s life, there are a few in every crowd. But quit romanticizing it: you are bad people. You refuse to play nice with others. You don’t want to join the team, but you’ll be glad to share in the win. You still believe in “greed is good.” OK fine, you are what you are. But do not come on here and pretend to be the good guy. You are evil. You fit the precise criteria of the definition of moral evil. So either own it, or knock it the hell off.

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nuna Says:

If indeed people really believe that big government with more regulations and controls over our daily lives is the solution, we are all indeed going to fail.

We tried deregulating and removing all the controls, and we all failed. As it turns out, you need regulations and controls in a modern economy, much in the same way that you need traffic lights to prevent fatalities. Something to do with a complex economic system involving millions of interactions daily? I don’t know, maybe you don’t believe in traffic lights either.

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nuna Says:

Even when FDR introduced his socialistic agenda and placed 100% taxes on those who made over $25,000 a year

Link please. I’ve never heard of a 100% tax. That doesn’t even make any damn sense. It’s like saying that FDR made magic cars to stop the dragon infestation.

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nuna Says:

This will be the first time in history, that our children will have a lower standard of living than their parents.

Link, please. I’m pretty sure that’s happened before. As a matter of fact, I’m extremely certain that the standard of living has decreased before. For example, slowly and steadily over the last 30 years for all workers.

I attended a tea party and also viewed the coverage of Cavuto and Beck. Both had wide shots. Trust me, there were thousands of people at these rallies. I’m proud to be an American when these large groups can peacefully demonstrate their discontentment with the mindless spending of this administration. Mindless: a Congress that passes stimulus bills without even reading what they are voting on – Merrill Lynch/AIG bonues … People are just simply pissed off at all those passing enormous burdens on all Americans. Taxes come in many forms. Everyone should be really concerned about their futures.

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Sorry, you lost me with “Trust me”.

What I don’t hear anyone complaining about is those who got us in this situation. Why isn’t your anger being directed at Barney Franks and Chris Dodd?

Life is unfair. We are not all born equally. So what? Work harder. This will be the first time in history, that our children will have a lower standard of living than their parents. Great legacy. I call that regression, not progression. At least I won’t have to explain to my kids why I didn’t stand up to the nanny state way of thinking.