Gov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.
Gov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.
Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) was one of the dozens of Republican lawmakers who are addressing the anti-Obama tea parties today. He told the crowd he didn’t believe they were all “right-wing extremists,” as others had sought to portray them. “But if you are, I’m with you!” he shouted. After, he told reporters that Texas might have to secede from the union:
Perry told reporters following his speech that Texans might get so frustrated with the government they would want to secede from the union.
“There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.”
Earlier this week, Perry signed onto a nonbinding resolution claiming the federal government had overstepped its Constitutional authority. “I believe the federal government has become oppressive. I believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Perry declared.
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The South is going to secede? Again? Are they bringing back slavery, too?
April 15th, 2009 at 6:47 pmGov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.
– - This is not a repeat headline from 1861. And how did that work out for you treasonous bastids last time?
April 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pmNOW it’s oppressive after your best buddy stripped us of our civil rights for 8 years????
Now you might have to secede???
Why not before the little bastuurd screwed us up.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pmCan we have Austin? See ya Texas don’t let the door hit ya in the A$$.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pmFine.
We’ll give it back to Mexico.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:50 pmFuk texas and every asswipe who lives there. you want to go, fine, but you have to take oklahoma with you.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:51 pmTexas USED to be sort of alright (I grew up there until 1979), but, goddamn, it has been ruined by Karl Rove and George Bush and Rick Perry and Tom Delay and Phil Gramm and every other Repubican. Now, I don’t think I will ever set foot there again, unless they regain their senses. Else, fine, cut ‘em loose- but you get NO GOVERNMENT HELP in the next hurricane. Try to handle them with no state income tax..
April 15th, 2009 at 6:51 pmOK. The Repugs can have the South and will take the progressive North. Sounds like a deal. After 2004, I seriously considered going to Canada. Kind of hard to do when you’re broke.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
Fine.
We’ll give it back to Mexico.
Yeah! Woohoo! We get to keep the Dallas Cowboys as well?
Wait, will it include Dubya? If so, we don’t want it!
April 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pmHey Rick, I hope that this is a PROMISE and not just an idle threat. Please let me know if you need any financial help with this – I’d love to contribute to such an effort. Texas = home of Tom DeLay and George W. Bush. You’d better secede the hell out of my country!
April 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pmBye.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pmLet ‘em go.
Then we can turn around and bill Texas for the cost of protecting the Middle East investments of Texas oil men with the treasure of taxpaying Citizens and the blood of the U.S. Military.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pmSorry.
The ad clearly stated “as is”.
:|
And all sales are final.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:55 pmPerry you leave texas we dont need you .you ownt be governor fgor any longer than2010
April 15th, 2009 at 6:56 pmSo President Obama has been in office for less than 90 days and southern states are already threatening succession from the union?
And they called US “moonbats”?
This guy’s a GOVERNOR?
Holy crap.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pmGov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.
– - Perry can forget a White House run in 2012. But he can always suceed Jefferson Davis as #2.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:59 pmif Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people
Dude. Where the fck have you been? Last November the American people voted Obama in office. It was in all the papers. Pull that shiny head out of your ass.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm***
when they discover that secession also means
that texas is out of the bcs they’ll change
their minds pretty dåmn quick.
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April 15th, 2009 at 7:01 pmBizarro world.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pmGood, and take florida with you.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:03 pmHurray! Huzzah!
That’s the best news I’ve ever heard! Let all the Repugnicans move to Texas and secede. We’ll name it Traitorland. Then we’ll wall it off and start an organization called the Second-Men to shoot any illegal immigration over the border!
Heheh. I’m kidding!
For the truth about the origin of the U.S. Republic (hint, not Christian), read my blog at:
http://eggheaded.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/hermetic-origins-of-the-usa/
April 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pmwhen they discover that secession also means
that texas is out of the bcs they’ll change
their minds pretty dåmn quick.
– - Heh. That’s pretty damn funny.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pmAll of you Texans who wish to secede along with Rick Perry, just pack up a bag and walk across the border. Leave those who do not agree with you and Rick Perry right where they wish to be.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pmDidn’t the same government they want to secede from…give them federal aid for Hurricane Ike?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:06 pmNo no no no….the headline is wrong…Bush’s old lt. gov. Perry can’t think…He meant to say “Texass might have to succeed.”
As in, it might have to actually stop taking out more federal tax dollars than it pays in.
OTOH Rick Perry is just flat out dumb. I’ll paraphrase an oft used idiom here:
You can take a bore to school but you can’t make him think.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:07 pmFine, Perry. Go away. Don’t come calling when the next hurricane hits – or when you want to build your fence around your border.
Between Perry and Palin – they are both demagogues, panderers and politicians in the worst sense. No hint of working with others, cooperation on legislation, no, no, no.
Just strut and swagger, appeal to your least common denominator — the ones who don’t think straight — and collect their votes. That’s all you want anyway. Permanent power.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:07 pmThree words:
BRING.
IT.
ON.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:09 pmAre we voting on this? I vote yes. Cut ‘em loose.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:09 pmWhen you go away, do you promise to take George Bush – the one who created this abysmal disaster with you, and his ridiculous library/museum — never to be seen or heard from again?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:09 pmPerry’s complaint might seem more credible if he hadn’t supported the administration of George W. Bush. Election stealing, bad faith prosecutions of political opponents, warrantless wiretapping, sneak and peek searches, rendition, and American citizens held as enemy combatants? No problem. 10 weeks later, when those abuses are being rolled back, Perry thinks we’re facing the threat of fascism? The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pmWHERE do they dig up these STUPID people to run for office down THERE???
Are all the SMART people working for the energy sector screwing the world and just leaving “politics” to the guys that would NEVER get picked to play . . . .?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:14 pmLooks like that Russian Nutcase who Predicted the U.S. is going to break in pieces, maybe was right after all.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:14 pmTexas is not a southern state, but yeah…they can go.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pmWoo hoo!
The Right can finally have their xenophobic theocracy with biblical law, AK-47s, creationism and no gays!
And the rest of us can finally move on with a pluralistic, inclusive, enlightened secular democracy focusing on fairness, equality, progress… seriously radical stuff like that!
Oh, one condition: they MUST take Fox with them as their State News Network.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pmPersonally, I can’t decide which is thicker: their accents, their skulls or their hypocrisy.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm“Texas might have to sucede”
OK, but you have to take Ok, Al, Ms, and Tn. too.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:16 pmWhere were all these repugs when Bush was raping America, sending their young people to war, squandering the surplus and good name in the world. Oh, they were happy as pigs in mud — their good ol’ boy was in the white house – now he’s gone, and (gasp!) a black man is there – and he’s talking about the common man. They jsut can’t stand that can they.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:17 pmI do believe they view Barack Obama like Clevon Little.
And isn’t that treason. Punishable by death. I understand that it is ignored when fringe folks say it, or Key West, but he’s a sitting governor. Shouldn’t he be arrested for inciting rebellion?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:17 pmJess Wonderin Says:
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WHERE do they dig up these STUPID people to run for office down THERE???
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Ya gotta work wit whatcha got.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:18 pm“I believe the federal government has become oppressive. I believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Perry declared.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:21 pmAnd yet this total loser sided completely with Bush, his lies, his huge expanding of government, his wiretapping, etc. Perry is a total right-wing jerk.
nofltwlt Says:
All of you Texans who wish to secede along with Rick Perry, just pack up a bag and walk across the border.
Nooo, we don’t want them here. Send them east into the Gulf of Mexico or something.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:24 pmGood – don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out – I’m sick to death of these scum-bags
April 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pmActually the Texas House of Reps is 50.7% (R) 49.3% (D)
And the Texas Senate is 19(R) and 12(D)
Its not a single party state with 100% Republicans. Perry is a figgerhaid.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:30 pmFrom what I’ve seen of Texas and the attitudes and personalities of their leaders (Exhibit 1: George Bush; Exhibit 2: Rick Perry), this would not be a great loss for the rest of us.
Send us a card from your new location so I can update my ZIP code.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:31 pmSounds like a good idea but, only if we never EVER buy a drop of their oil.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:31 pmPerry should rethink his position as not many showed up for the tea-bag rally and this talking about seceding is just silly
April 15th, 2009 at 7:32 pmAnyone care to venture a guess how Faux News might have greeted such a suggestion from, say Bernie Sanders regarding Vermont in 2004?
Think the word “treason” might have been bandied about?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:35 pmSorry Perry, but Texas lost the right to secede when it rejoined the Union after seceding during the Civil war.
Also a Supreme Court case decided sucession in 1869,Chief Justice Salmon Chase, writing the majority opinion of the 5-3 decision, stated that the Union is “composed of indestructible states,” and established on behalf of the high court of the land that secession is illegal.
Too bad Republicans are so f-king stupid.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pmAs a resident of the red-headed stepchild part of Texas, El Paso-the GOP will NEVER be a majority party in this city-I don’t blame anyone for being upset with Perry, but he won’t be in a position as the state’s figurehead past the foreseeable future, he’s gonna get his clock cleaned by fellow GOP slug Kay Bailey Hutchison in the Republican primary next year.
Texas is also trending bluer with every election, as the Dems are just three seats away from gaining the majority in the House.
And unlike far too many of the Dems on Capitol Hill, who wet themselves in terror at the thought of the Repubs saying mean things about them, the Dems here in Texas are more willing to scrap and fight and make the GOP earn it’s victories, rather than just rolling over on far too active a basis.
What’s gonna really hurt Gov. Goodhair in the GOP primary is that voters in one party can cross over and vote in another party’s primary, but they wouldn’t be able to vote in their own party’s primary if they crossover vote.
Something else to consider.
It was Tom DeLay’s most audacious stunt, the redistricting BS that resulted in an additional 5 GOP seats, which led to his indictment, and the end of his political career.
And that comment about college football keeping Texas from seceding was dead on target, football’s the only thing as loved & worshiped as guns in this state.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:37 pmXisithrus Says:
Actually the Texas House of Reps is 50.7% (R) 49.3% (D)
And the Texas Senate is 19(R) and 12(D)
Its not a single party state with 100% Republicans. Perry is a figgerhaid.
And when their district gerrymandering expires, they’re toast. It’s the only thing that’s been propping them up all this time. The insane Texas districting scheme is the most artificial travesty of Democracy in the modern world. If any other country set up their voting districts like that, we wouldn’t even call them a democracy.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pmI think Rick Perry should understand that we’ll take all of our arms and munitions before they declare their autonomy. We will take all property of the Federal Government and we won’t lift a hand to help them when Mexico attacks their arrogant a$$es. If they think they’re over-taxed, let them pay for their own roads. We’ll refuse to honor their requests for Social Security and Medicare. The US will come out way ahead in this transaction.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Anyone care to venture a guess how Faux News might have greeted such a suggestion from, say Bernie Sanders regarding Vermont in 2004?
Think the word “treason” might have been bandied about?
*ahem* We have to stand behind our Commander-in-Chief in this time of war. *ahem*
April 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pmHe told the crowd he didn’t believe they were all “right-wing extremists,” as others had sought to portray them. “But if you are, I’m with you!”
Incitement? By an elected official?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:42 pm“Gov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.”
April 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pmAs long as you take that worthless sack of crap 43 with you and return all the property of the unites states (you know…defense weaponry) BON VOYAGE!
…and the freight train is starting to move…chug a chug a…because B.O….Pee’Lice’Ie…and Dingy Harry have overplayed their hand.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pm“I believe the federal government has become oppressive. I believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Perry declared.
Gov. Perry is clearly in favor of legalization of medical marijuana (hell, all marijuana), and death with dignity laws, passed by states and quashed by the feds. Or is he perhaps a hypocrite who only supports “states’ rights” when it’s his state and laws he agrees with?
But the gov has to promise to give up this. And these. And these.
For starters.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:48 pmRE: “…he told reporters that Texas might have to secede from the union…”
MY COMMENT: Oh, please don’t secede! Please, please don’t secede. I’m begging you. Pretty please…..(LOL)
April 15th, 2009 at 7:50 pmRealityCheck Says:
…and the freight train is starting to move…chug a chug a…because B.O….Pee’Lice’Ie…and Dingy Harry have overplayed their hand.
The “freight train” is full of wingnut Republicans, who have been off the rails since November. Only someone as delusional as you would think this portends anything but the same old whiny victimized obstructionism of the GOP.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pmDon’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, Governor Hairspray. I can’t think of another State I’d be happier to be rid of.
And once you’re on your own, don’t come begging at our door when the narcotraficantes decide they own you. You’ll have to call Chuck Norris to fend them off.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:52 pmRC – You’re as big an idiot as has ever typed a post here.
Get off the ice, and get a g*ddamned job – you’re worthless as a backseat driver.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:52 pmI’m from Texas and I am humiliated. Please fellow Texans, let’s get him out of office.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:52 pmI believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Perry declared.
But republicans telling people whether or not they can marry, whether or not they should carry a birth to full term regardless of the circumstances of the conception or health of the mother/child, that they need to fork more money over to the rich, that they can’t advocate socialistic programs,listening in on who they are talking to or reading their emails…those are not intrusions into the lives of citizens? What’s missing here. Their brains?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pmGovernor Hairspray!
Is he related to Blago?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pmreality check:
April 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pmyour teabaggin events sucked. i went to one. nothing but the lunatic fringe of the right making asses of themselves.
next.
For God’s sake leave and don’t let the door hit you in the ass. Take GW with you as well – what a blessing not to have Texas in the 50 mix. You could join Mexico in a shoot out at OK corral. Good riddance! Ya better learn how to manufacture Texas hairspray in the new world order !
April 15th, 2009 at 7:55 pmjlw771 Says:
I’m from Texas and I am humiliated. Please fellow Texans, let’s get him out of office.
Well I voted against him, but there are too many idiots here in Texas that voted FOR him. Lets hope we can get rid of him next time.
I’m living in Austin, btw.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pmTen years ago, a Russian stated the US would collapse and separate into 4 territories by 2010…he’s only 8 months off. Texas and the Gulf coast would be consumed by Mexico, the great plains by Canada, the west coast by China, the east coast by Europe and Palin would get to meet her new boss,Putin, face-to-face – no more sneaking a peak out the window.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
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“I believe the federal government has become oppressive. I believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Perry declared.
Gov. Perry is clearly in favor of legalization of medical marijuana (hell, all marijuana), and death with dignity laws, passed by states and quashed by the feds. Or is he perhaps a hypocrite who only supports “states’ rights” when it’s his state and laws he agrees with?
But the gov has to promise to give up this. And these. And these.
For starters.
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Thanks for the links. Interesting that defense spending in
Texass quadrupled under Shrub.
Down with PORK, I say.
Hypocrisy Hall of Fame.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pmWhat countries would an independent Texas form alliances with?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:00 pmThe USA?
Mexico?
Any country in Latin America?
Europe?
Ahhh…Saudi Arabia.
Yep. And they’d probably buy it.
From the Chinese.
reality check,
Idiots like you are necessary as a measure of what is sane, rational and common sensical. All of which you are not.
You’ve been shown facts over and over again that prove you are totally of base and you keep up with your blithering idiocy. I hope you have enough sense to seek help before its too late!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:00 pmMake it official and give Texas the jimmy!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pmGov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:06 pmReally? Do we have your promise on that? The remaining lower 47 states are jumping for joy! Texas is an ignorant, egotistical thorn in the rest of the country’s backside that produced the worst president in the history of the country while taking in federal money hand over fist.
And while you’re at it, Gov. Perry, could you take Alaska and Gov. Palin with you?
So Perry’s auditioning to be the closet edition of Jefferson Davis?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:07 pmWill he appoint his hair as his deputy?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:08 pmI laughed until I cried – these folks are just freakin nutz! It’s too much! All I have to say is – GET THE HELL ON! Beat it! But before you go – give back the stimulus!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:09 pmI thought Palin was the dufus, but this clown Perry takes the cake.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:09 pmRick will be good as a mexican province master…All the help he’ll ever need will come immediately the next time a hurricane hits Houston… or a range fire takes out half of the west of mex-i-tex, or the drought gets worse and worse as the crops die..all the aid Rick will ever need will be right on the way from mexico city…
Oh and that semi-boarder crossing in Laredo…that comes down day 1..you think you got a war down there now..HA! Wait until they need a car wash..or want some of that fine Rudy’s BBQ in Austin….or some folks want them some cheerleader booty from Dallas…yes sir … Rick will do just fine as a mex-i-tex province master…
April 15th, 2009 at 8:17 pmDid Perry bother to ask, say in the form of a vote, what the citizens of Texas would want to do? Are we two believe that Texans would go along with whatever this dictator says in relation to their country? The recalled a governor of California for way less.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:17 pmGo ahead, do it…it will give the rest of us the right to shoot all of you Anti-American fcuks.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:17 pmThe United States could live very well without Texas. Secede, see if I care. However, I do believe that they should reimburse the Federal Government for all improvements to that state that were paid for by U.S. taxpayers; e.g, Federal Highways, bridges, etc. Additionally, Texans should need passports to get back into the U.S.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:18 pmBut if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people[...]
And I thought is what right-wingers called leadership.
Or at least they did when Bush was in office.
Funny how things work in wingnutland.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:18 pmAnd they can keep their cattle on their side of the border. No more driving them north to federally owned land to graze. See ya.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:19 pmTexas the next Cuba, cut off trade with them and don’t let others trade with them..
…maybe they might want to rethink this.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm“I believe the federal government has become oppressive.[...]“
Well, it didn’t become oppressive overnight, right Mr. Perry?
Why does it only bother you now after 8 years of the most abusive, intrusive federal government the US have had in recent memory?
Again: Funny how things work in wingnutland…
April 15th, 2009 at 8:22 pmSeced already.
Mexico needs some breathing room.
-GSZD
April 15th, 2009 at 8:24 pmAnother embarrassment from Texas. These people are throwing anything at the wall just to see what will stick. Problem is, there is so much shit on the ground, you just can’t see the wall any more….
April 15th, 2009 at 8:26 pmTexas has become a powerhouse for job creation and middle class growth. Texas created 60% of all jobs in the nation between 11/2007 and 11/2008. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2008/07/29/even-the-job-growth-is-big-in-texas.aspx
They have low taxes and no state income tax and they are still thriving as a state while liberal-democrat-run states like California and New York are taxing their citizens to death and still cannot pay the bills.
Moreover, corporations and their highly skilled workers are fleeing states like California and New York because of high tax and spend policies.
HUH, imagine that. Texas has the oil and Texas has the majority of Corporate head quarters in the US. Perhaps Obama could learn from Texas.
If Texas succeeds, Half of Americans will flock to move there leaving the welfare state whiners behind. How will you feed yourselves when the government hand has no more to give?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pmThere are probably another 10 or more States contemplating the same.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pmDoes this mean that evolution can go back in the textbooks and high school curriculum?
The publishers kowtow to Texan school districts with their textbook content because Texas buys so many texts.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pmTim43 Says:
Really? Since things are going so well in TX, why did the state need stimulus money? You’re delusional!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pmBuckie Boy Says:
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Texas the next Cuba, cut off trade with them and don’t let others trade with them..
…maybe they might want to rethink this.
Obama needs Texas more than Texas needs the obama and this current group of high tax socialists.
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit. Let us not forget that the southern states own the oil in the ground and the gulf. Obama’s little social experiment would be brought to its knees when there is no one left to tax.
Most states like California and New York can’t even balance a budget but simply force the people to pay higher taxes to foot the bill.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pmCan they take Dick Cheney and the other dicks? I’ll make a list.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:37 pmfire _ant_chavis Says:
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Tim43 Says:
Really? Since things are going so well in TX, why did the state need stimulus money? You’re delusional!
A simple google search before you spew lies is all I ask.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/031309dntexperrystimulus.2b47185d.html
April 15th, 2009 at 8:38 pmTim43 Says:
Sure people will flock to poverty stricken TX, high levels of teen pregnancy, natural disasters and rascism.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm“Teacher, did the Gulf of Mexico always extend to New Mexico? Is that why it’s called that?”
“No Jimmy, the crater caused by the Texas-American war of 2010 extended the Gulf almost all the way West to Arizona and North to Kansas.”
“Teacher, what was Texas?”
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RealityCheck Says:
…and the freight train is starting to move…chug a chug a…because B.O….Pee’Lice’Ie…and Dingy Harry have overplayed their hand.
You think they overplayed their hand? Awesome, y’all are getting more delusional by the minute.
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tombaker Says:
And once you’re on your own, don’t come begging at our door when the narcotraficantes decide they own you. You’ll have to call Chuck Norris to fend them off.
Don’t forget about the Nuge, yo.
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Wayne Says:
I’m living in Austin, btw.
We’ll try to spare you. Best of luck. Perhaps you can help form “la resistance.”
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pbeeg Says:
Yep. And they’d probably buy it.
From the Chinese.
Here’s an idea, we could sell Texas to China to pay off some of our debt…
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Doodlebug Shayne Says:
Did Perry bother to ask, say in the form of a vote, what the citizens of Texas would want to do?
I believe the vote is coming up real soon…
April 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pmAs we took control of Texas by military conflict and we’ve fought Mexico a few more times over where the border lies,
Please let Texas go back to Mexico.
The repubs should like the idea as their immigration platform already complains about all the Latinos in Texas.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pmPLEASE, Texas, make Chuck Norris your President!
PLEASE!!
Oh God, the comedy gold alone would be worth billions….
Pleeeeeeeze?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:41 pmall this over obama a man with intelligence?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pmTim43 Says:
The Texans needed the stimulus but the a$$wipe grandstanding governor chose not to take it! If things were so great why would the state be offered stimulus?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pmI am fine with Texas seceding as long as they take along the debt the Republican presidents have run up.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:43 pmC’mon guys, this is all baloney. There is no way Texas would ever secede, because then they’d get kicked out of the high school / college football circuit. Politics is one thing, but football is sacrosanct in Texas, and they’re not really happy unless they’re beating the teams of the surrounding states, in conference. That would all go bye-bye.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:45 pm94.Tim43 Says:
fire _ant_chavis Says:
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Tim43 Says:
Really? Since things are going so well in TX, why did the state need stimulus money? You’re delusional!
A simple google search before you spew lies is all I ask.
Rather than that, Timmeh, I read your link. Apparently, you didn’t:
(last paragraph)
Texas still is in line to receive $16 billion in stimulus funds earmarked for transportation, education and health and human services projects.
Now, how ’bout a big ‘ol apology for your accusation?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:47 pmHave fun with those oil reserves, Tim43. That ought to get you through the next 4 decades. What then? Cotton? Cattle? Dell Computers? Big Game ranches?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:47 pmIt’s like the christian-fascists muttering about Endtimes. The world is so bad, that god’s gonna come and snatch up away leaving the rest of humanity for The Troubles.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:48 pmBut they never really go – do they. They just keep their sordid selves right here in the midst of things, soiling the space.
And for those who think the South’s gonna’ do it again, you’re right. They’ll lose. Again.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:48 pmTim43: An excerpt from your linked article.
The U.S. Federal Reserve in Dallas has forecast that the Texas economy will lose up to 300,000 jobs in 2009, and the unemployment rate was at 6.4 percent in January. Monthly unemployment claims have more than doubled over last year.
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Tim43 Says:
Buckie Boy Says:
Obama needs Texas more than Texas needs the obama and this current group of high tax socialists.
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit. Let us not forget that the southern states own the oil in the ground and the gulf. Obama’s little social experiment would be brought to its knees when there is no one left to tax.
Most states like California and New York can’t even balance a budget but simply force the people to pay higher taxes to foot the bill.
This is what you Libs had better fear…When people get fed up enough…an idea like this could catch fire. You might have won the election…but you’re attempt to silence the other half of American’s will not work.
Wait & See
April 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pmOh please, just let them go already.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pmYes, please, secede. The Sooner the Better. Move the fence while you’re at it, it’s ours.
FCK TEXAS!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pmTimmeh? It seems Perry’s only rejecting PART of the stimulus. Read this from your link too:
Perry’s just grandstanding to sucker idiots like Timmeh. How ’bout that apology, Timmeh?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pm>>>
bye tim!
:)
April 15th, 2009 at 8:51 pmBuckie Boy Says:
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Texas the next Cuba, cut off trade with them and don’t let others trade with them..
…maybe they might want to rethink this
Incidentally buckie boy perhaps you haven’t noticed. obama is coddling Cuba and the communist dictator fidel castro. Soon Cuba will be open to US tourism and the castro dictatorship regime will survive despite the behest of the Cuban people.
Thanks to Obama, US money will be funneled to the castro’s via tourism along side the current drug exports.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:51 pmHi RealityCheck
April 15th, 2009 at 8:51 pmI sort of fear heights alittle and I don’t really dig spiders but otherwise, I don’t have anything to fear from goofballs…
Amazing. Really, radical right? You really, really want U.S. Civil War II? I know you’re frustrated that we’ve put the brakes on your adjustment of the government to match your warped ideas, but think LONG & HARD before you start something that you can’t finish. You’re vastly outnumbered by folks who are just as strong in their beliefs as you are.
Succeeding would not be the smartest of ideas.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:51 pmYou might have won the election…but you’re attempt to silence the other half of American’s will not work.
Says the guy on a liberal website.
Do you know what irony means?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:51 pmRealityCheck Says:
Wait & See? Are we supposed to be ssssscared? You’re powerless. Your man McCain LOST the election. All you guys can do is make alot of noise and tote guns.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pmTim43
April 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pmNobody gives a shit about Castro. Years of old waspy boy yacht club foreign policy has accomplished nothing. Time for a new way…This tired old red scare shit is boring at best…
Oh, Timmeh? Apology time….
*Colbert grab-hand*
Timmeh?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pm113.Tim43 Says:
Timmeh is a coward. Typical pussy coward. ‘It is over, Norm…’
Timmeh the coward.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pmIf Texas has so much money why did they ask the federal government for help fighting the Mexican drug lords? Why didn’t Governor Perry just hire more state police to handle it?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pmHey at least Texans get up in the morning and go to work. All these people BO and his ACORN pals want to give money to just want to sit home and watch tv all day long.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:54 pmIs Perty not taking stimulus money?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:55 pmSomeone might like to remind Perry that his state is losing $850 million each year because Texas corporations already do not pay their taxes…they have phony post office boxes off shore.
122.10hourday Says: Hey at least Texans get up in the morning and go to work. All these people BO and his ACORN pals want to give money to just want to sit home and watch tv all day long.
The fact that you cite ACORN as some sort of threat means your parents were no doubt siblings.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:56 pmTimmeh? Wrong-Way Timmeh?
Waiting for your public capitulation for being slapped down wrong, Timmeh…
Guess republican bush-sucks are devoid of the character to admit their mistakes as well as their lack of anything resembling a spine.
Poor Timmeh. Pussy.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:58 pmAll these people BO and his ACORN pals want to give money to just want to sit home and watch tv all day long.
And I thank you for you contribution. Now I’ll be able to keep my house.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pmTim43 Says:
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit.
Texas cannot legally secede. Quit flaunting your stupid.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pmSecede? That’s kinda un-American, isn’t it?
April 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pmI think the republican/Tea party should nominate, as a mascot, Yosemite Sam.
Loud, armed and dumb as a box of spit.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pm10hourday Says: You’re an ignorant fool spewing lies you cant back up.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:04 pmTim43 Says:
Buckie Boy Says:
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Texas the next Cuba, cut off trade with them and don’t let others trade with them..
…maybe they might want to rethink this
Incidentally buckie boy perhaps you haven’t noticed. obama is coddling Cuba and the communist dictator fidel castro. Soon Cuba will be open to US tourism and the castro dictatorship regime will survive despite the behest of the Cuban people.
Thanks to Obama, US money will be funneled to the castro’s via tourism along side the current drug exports.
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then you better hurry up and
“succeed” fast.
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s/b secede
:)
you’re keen intelligence
will be missed.
:)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:05 pmAs a New Mexican, I gotta say: Adios, culos!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:05 pm10hourday Says:
Hey at least Texans get up in the morning and go to work. All these people BO and his ACORN pals want to give money to just want to sit home and watch tv all day long.
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tea bagging in the park…
that’s a paying job, is it?
:)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:07 pmIf Texas goes where will I be able to buy giant cowboy hats made in Mexico?????
Funny how the Obama Admin is destroying everything this country was founded on, but the Anti-Bill of Rights = Patriot Act established by the Bush Admin was just another day in the office of democracy
April 15th, 2009 at 9:08 pmDoes this mean that Bush will get to be your president again? Hey Perry if you secede then you know we’ll have to invade Texas. Find your ass, put you on trial and then put you in Guantanamo.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pmTexas the next Cuba, cut off trade with them and don’t let others trade with them..
…maybe they might want to rethink this
Incidentally buckie boy perhaps you haven’t noticed. obama is coddling Cuba and the communist dictator fidel castro. Soon Cuba will be open to US tourism and the castro dictatorship regime will survive despite the behest of the Cuban people.
Thanks to Obama, US money will be funneled to the castro’s via tourism along side the current drug exports.
Didn’t they survive this long with the embargo anyways???
April 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pmRealityCheck Says:
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Tim43 Says:
Buckie Boy Says:
Obama needs Texas more than Texas needs the obama and this current group of high tax socialists.
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit. Let us not forget that the southern states own the oil in the ground and the gulf. Obama’s little social experiment would be brought to its knees when there is no one left to tax.
Most states like California and New York can’t even balance a budget but simply force the people to pay higher taxes to foot the bill.
This is what you Libs had better fear…When people get fed up enough…an idea like this could catch fire. You might have won the election…but you’re attempt to silence the other half of American’s will not work.
Wait & See
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you trolls never leave this place,
why should we believe you’re leaving
the union?
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stop acting like spoiled children.
:|
April 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pmMy question is…if you [Tex-ass] secede, how you gonna afford to ship your goods over American airspace without having usuriously high ‘international’ trade tariffs?
Texas sure as hell ain’t shipping anything through the real US. Over or through. Good luck with your sole trading partner, Mexico.
Idiots.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pmHelp me cluster Sean Hannity’s email with thousands of comments. I have sent at least ten alreadY!!! Mostly about his tea bagging trips with Billy O’ and the gang before they tea bagged the American public
April 15th, 2009 at 9:13 pmNotice chickensh¡ts like Timmeh always disappear after getting spanked.
Typical cowardly republican.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:13 pmSo how many electoral votes would that mean? It will be awful tough for Rs in the remaining US.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:13 pmWhen we think about it what does Texas really provide for us? Maybe some livestock for agricultural use but that is about it. When you get into areas with less vegetation for livestock you have to alot the difference by allowing more land use per cow – for example areas with little grazing vegetation can require up to 5 or more acres per cow. Seems like a sink of finance more than a source. I guess we have the Alamo and it s fame to glory when Ozzy Osbourne urinated on it in a drunken stupor! Thats got to be worth something!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:18 pmBuckie Boy Says:
Obama needs Texas more than Texas needs the obama and this current group of high tax socialists.
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit. Let us not forget that the southern states own the oil in the ground and the gulf. Obama’s little social experiment would be brought to its knees when there is no one left to tax.
Most states like California and New York can’t even balance a budget but simply force the people to pay higher taxes to foot the bill.
This is what you Libs had better fear…When people get fed up enough…an idea like this could catch fire. You might have won the election…but you’re attempt to silence the other half of American’s will not work.
Isn’t California run by a Rrepublican??? Didn’t this Republican submit the tax increase to counter the crisis???
April 15th, 2009 at 9:20 pmtbone, that would be a big 34 electoral votes to which the Republicans could say “adios”.
That would make it quite an uphill battle for the Palin/Wurzelbacher ticket to win the presidency in ‘12.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:21 pmGood riddance to the Dallas Cowboys, I say.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pmIf Texas secedes, for the rest of us in the 49 United States, our crime rate, murder rate, illegitimacy rate, obesity rate, and divorce rate would all go down. Our average SAT would go up, as would the amount of funds paid to the federal government returned to us.
What a shame for the rest of us.
Please do secede.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pmSo, I guess I need to tell my company that we can no longer do business with Texas customers.
With the future of Texas in question, I am not sure it makes much sense to do business with companies in Texas any longer.
What if I a travel there for business but Texas secedes? Will I need a passport? Will I be able to travel back to my liberal northeast state of PA?
Seems best to just stay away until you make up your minds …
April 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pmLet TX go – I guarantee that they will be over-run with immigrants and drug violence. Perry will be pleading for help within a month! TX would not last long.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pmFrom the looks of perry above, I’d say he must have borrowed Blago’s hair for that photo op…
April 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pmAgain please right your favorite hate mails to Sean Hannity..Some popular subject matter may include who takes turns circle jerking who at FoxNews (My bet is on Gretchen, the mosatly manly of the group), which corporate tyrant is Hannity more of a whore for – Trump, Bush, his Aussie boss? and many more!!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pmWhat? There’s no basement at the Alamo?
April 15th, 2009 at 9:26 pmTexas will secede? Great! they’ll take the South? Even better. We can get rid of the national debt within a year. We won’t have to pay Social Security or any other federal payments to those foreigners. we can close all those military bases and bring our troops home. We can canceel all those contracts with companies in the South. And we can establish a 50% tax on all items coming from or going to Texas.
After Texas secedes and we stop all that money flowing in there from the USA, I’ll bet Rick Perry is strung up by his loyal followers
April 15th, 2009 at 9:27 pmFuk texas and every asswipe who lives there. you want to go, fine, but you have to take oklahoma with you.
But what about the OKL Thunder???? Can we keep them???
April 15th, 2009 at 9:28 pmRalph I suspect if Texas goes, so goes Alaska. But Romney sure would have a lot of fun. I’m sure he would start touting his gubernatorial record in Mass.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:28 pmThen again Bush, a Texan, ran up quite a bit of debt with his trillion dollar Iraq war. We’ll want cash up front for that before you guys leave. Thanks.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:31 pmOnce again, most of you don’t mind showing your UTTER IGNORANCE on basically any topic in the news.
You folks know next to NOTHING about Texas. For one thing, the deal Texas made to join the United States in the first place left the option to “dissolve” the union if Texas ever wanted or needed to at any point in the future!
So, Texas once having been a country itself made it EQUAL in standing to the United States.
You know, there’s a reason so many people and businesses are moving INTO Texas!
Hahahahahahaha
April 15th, 2009 at 9:31 pmI say let Texas secede but on one condition. They have to take a bunch of the parasitic red states with them . . . like maybe Mississppi, Tennessee, Okalahoma . . . ok, what the hell, through in Utah for good measure.
OK – maybe a second condition. Once they’re gone, they’re gone for good. We blue state folks wouldn’t ever want to see their sorry butts again.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pmAnd fine if the whole south wants to go we can move all the military bases up north and all the weapons manufactures can move up to the midwest. Plenty of closed up factories there.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pmMexico will kick Texas’ ass.
racist white people are becoming unhinged because an intelligent, cool, popular, homespun, father, husband and caring beautiful African-American man is our President. repugs keep running into brick walls and thinking it’s a mistakes that the wall is solid.
repugs next rally will be called Doggy Style.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm156. Tim Vaculik Says: So, Texas once having been a country itself made it EQUAL in standing to the United States.
Of course it did, honey bunny…here, have a magic easter egg filled with the nougat of Christ, who died for your sins…
April 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pmTim V.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pmHave fun getting water!
In that case, we should rename “TEXAS” as “WATB.”
April 15th, 2009 at 9:35 pmIf Texas secedes then everybody will have to declare themselves not a citizen of the US but as a citizen of Texas. Then if they don’t have work there they’ll need a visa to get a job in the US.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:36 pmWonder where Texas will get disaster relief this hurricane season…
D’ohh!
Or any warning for that matter since the facility is the NATIONAL weather service, and Texas, of course, wouldn’t qualify…
April 15th, 2009 at 9:38 pm10hourday Says:
There are probably another 10 or more States contemplating the same.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:40 pm——————————————————-
which states are contemplating the same, let’s see what lies you’ll tell?
Tim Vaculik Says…
So, Texas once having been a country itself made it EQUAL in standing to the United States.
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They forgot to put on yer football helmet before they let you out of the house, Timmeh…
April 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pmTim Valculik:
I guarantee that we’ll have the last laugh!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:41 pmThe only thing good that came out of Texas is Bill Hicks and the band The Sword!!!! Both from Austin
April 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pmMelospiza30 Says:
The only thing good that came out of Texas is Bill Hicks and the band The Sword!!!! Both from Austin
Let’s not play that game, or you’ll leave out people like Molly Ivins, Jim Hightower, and a whole list of other people. Yea, I think they were from Austin, too. :)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:45 pmYep, Tim… you go guy. Have a blast fighting your imaginary war against illegal immigration. Hey, guess what? The rest of us do not give a sh!t.
How’s the water supply down there with half of California moving in taking your jobs? I love the fact that Perry pulled this card.
Texas… heh. Reminds of a little diddy I used to hear growin’ up.
Here I sit cheeks a flexin… given birth to another Texan.
Good luck, tough guy.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:47 pm168.Melospiza30 Says: The only thing good that came out of Texas is Bill Hicks and the band The Sword!!!! Both from Austin
Don’t forget Robert E. Howard, creator of Conan…
April 15th, 2009 at 9:47 pmTo all the “let them go” folks, not gonna happen. The teabaggers don’t get to take their 49% of loyal Americans hostage. They’re going to have to “stand up and fight” the U.S. military to “win their freedom.” Heh heh…
Tim43 Says:
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit.
I will be more than happy to take all your money on that bet. But you don’t have any money. Because you are an Internet Conservative.
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hanshiro the antlion Says:
Rather than that, Timmeh, I read your link. Apparently, you didn’t:
(last paragraph)
Texas still is in line to receive $16 billion in stimulus funds earmarked for transportation, education and health and human services projects.
Now, how ’bout a big ‘ol apology for your accusation?
Yep. The governor is merely refusing unemployment assistance. I believe the quote was “f**k the unemployed, YEE HAW!”
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Tim43 Says:
obama is coddling Cuba and the communist dictator fidel castro. Soon Cuba will be open to US tourism and the castro dictatorship regime will survive despite the behest of the Cuban people.
Tebagger method 7: take a news event, smother it with a huge pile of fantasy, and then fling it all over the place like a monkey at the zoo.
STFU about what Obama “will do.” So far, you’re zero for a zillion, and counting.
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dbadass Says:
Nobody gives a shit about Castro.
The teabaggers do. They’re scared sh!tless of him, just like they’re scared sh!tless of everything. Never seen a group of more craven cowards in my life.
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10hourday Says:
ACORN
Thanks for playing, don’t let the door hit ya. Register a new username and come back later.
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mk3872 Says:
With the future of Texas in question, I am not sure it makes much sense to do business with companies in Texas any longer.
Excellent point. Corporations had probably better start pulling out of that state, as it’s potentially about to become a war zone.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
You folks know next to NOTHING about Texas. For one thing, the deal Texas made to join the United States in the first place left the option to “dissolve” the union if Texas ever wanted or needed to at any point in the future!
Link please? Show me anywhere in the U.S. Constitution where it provides for the secession of any member state. I’ll wait right here.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:51 pmWow, someone remembered Bill Hicks and the Hot Licks – great band!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:52 pm*tips my martini glass in memory of Molly Ivins*
April 15th, 2009 at 9:53 pmElBruce,
Texas wasn’t a State, it was a country. Didn’t you read my post?
Sure Texas is known as one of the 50 states now, but it is the ONLY one that actually can secede legally, at least by the common definition.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:55 pmTexas voluntarily set aside it’s sovreignty to join the union. It can take it back if it so chooses.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pmTim Vaculik:
April 15th, 2009 at 9:58 pmDo you really believe that? Hawaii wants to know…
Tim Vaculik Says:
Once again, most of you don’t mind showing your UTTER IGNORANCE on basically any topic in the news.
You folks know next to NOTHING about Texas. For one thing, the deal Texas made to join the United States in the first place left the option to “dissolve” the union if Texas ever wanted or needed to at any point in the future!
So, Texas once having been a country itself made it EQUAL in standing to the United States.
You know, there’s a reason so many people and businesses are moving INTO Texas!
Hahahahahahaha
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you live in texas?
you’re moving to texas?
or full of shît as usual
tim vackasuckadic?
:)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:58 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Sure Texas is known as one of the 50 states now, but it is the ONLY one that actually can secede legally, at least by the common definition.
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April 15th, 2009 at 10:00 pmAnn Richards, Jim Hightower, and Doctor Red Duke should be allowed to defect.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Wow, someone remembered Bill Hicks and the Hot Licks – great band!
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It’s DANHicks…
April 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pmI stand corrected. This from
April 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Don’t forget Stevie Ray Vaughan. Possibly the coolest man ever born in Texas.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pmSorry, can’t operate a computer:
the link is: http://www.texassecede.com/faq.htm
April 15th, 2009 at 10:03 pmTim Vaculik Says:
ElBruce,
Texas wasn’t a State, it was a country. Didn’t you read my post?
Sure Texas is known as one of the 50 states now, but it is the ONLY one that actually can secede legally, at least by the common definition.
Tim, you seem to be under the misconception that Texas’s former status as a nation (one that went widely unrecognized at the time) somehow affects Texas’s current abilities as one of the states of the USA. It ain’t so, bro. Not sure where you got this idea.
Texas is equal under the law to all other states in the union, per the US Constitution. Again, if you know of some magical source that states otherwise, please post us a link.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pmRepublic,
Arrrgggh! You are right. My brain is slightly numb from quaffing a Live Oak Brewery “Big Bark” tonight…
April 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pmMorgan423,
You are correct, I had jumped the gun earlier. See my post at #182.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pmPerry probably figured that if he can’t be Lincoln, he may as well be Jefferson Davis. Perry, Delay and Armey are proof that Texans have low standards. It’s no wonder their test scores rank them 49th. People of Austin, you deserve better than you’re getting.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pmThe only way Texas could survive as a sovereign nation is to become Hugo Chavez’s bee-yotch.
I wish them the best of luck.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm“Perry told reporters following his speech that Texans might get so frustrated with the government they would want to secede from the union.”
Governor Perry might want to consider the following. It was his party and his president who took us into Iraq. Half the country did not approve of this action. The president was given the benefit of the doubt, he was our president. As it turns out Bush squandered this moment and many American lives and destroyed a sovereign country.
President Obama has put forth a plan to restart an economy that was damaged. He is concerned about the welfare of people.
I believe he is sincere about a love of country and of solving our problems. Better than half of this country is willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt.
What is so hard for the Republican Party to reciprocate, especially in this time of need? Your party is stretching the argument beyond reasonable. You may very well pay for this at the voting booth. This is not a country of extremists, and the country has always voted that way.
You Governor Perry have become a well paid hoar, prostituting yourself for a set of values that are UN American.
You are a Fascist!!!
P.S. If Texas does secede, how would they survive without all the Federal money thrown at Texas since the Johnson days?
April 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pmYou see, we are here, as far as I can tell, to help each other; our brothers, our sisters, our friends, our enemies. That is to help each other and not hurt each other.
Stevie Ray Vaughan
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pete, don’t forget johnny winter too!
:)
April 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
If Texas secedes then everybody will have to declare themselves not a citizen of the US but as a citizen of Texas. Then if they don’t have work there they’ll need a visa to get a job in the US.
Let’s take an “idea” from a common teabagging troll and erect an electric fence to keep Texans out of the USA.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:08 pmTexas already had two tries at sovereignty. They got crushed both times. If they phuck up again? They get nuked!
April 15th, 2009 at 10:09 pmWhat I want to know Tim V is how many Texas transplants will leave if they know they will no longer be US citizens? How will southern Texas respond? You do realize that south Texas is a majority latino, right? Places like Corpus Christi are not Republican strongholds. Will they secede Texas and reunite with Mexico?
While it is fun to think about such a scenario, your and Mr. Perry’s machinations are absurd, and both you and he know it. But don’t let that get in the way of a nonsensical argument.
Why do I have this vision of a bunch of honkies holed up at the Alamo and Presidio La Bahia in Goliad a second time?
April 15th, 2009 at 10:09 pmTraitor!
April 15th, 2009 at 10:11 pmJust like the Persian Gulf States,
the only reason there’s 10 whole dollars in Texas
is oil.
(and thse liberal movie&music shindigs in Austin)
all apologies and due respect to many decent Texans who’ve never managed to secure a democratic majority for the Yellow Rose – I know it’s not because y’all ain’t tryin’.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pmGawd, can the repugs be any dumber? I mean, everyday it’s a surprised dumber made up stupid bullshit “idea”.
the club of no is also the club and blows, like in blows chunks.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:16 pmjoe,
johnny winter will
never be forgotten
stevie????
might have been god incarnate
April 15th, 2009 at 10:16 pmCan we keep Willie Nelson too?
April 15th, 2009 at 10:19 pmTim43 Says:
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit.
Well Virginia won’t, and y’all would never have lasted longer than six months in CW1 without us.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:23 pmI would like to hear from the citizens of Texas on how they feel about the Gov’s remarks. I think most would regard themselves as Americans first and foremost.Is the prerequisite for being a Governor in this country being a self absorbed, low IQ nitwit?? What’s up? American Idol Governor?
April 15th, 2009 at 10:30 pmpete – don’t forget ZZ Top
April 15th, 2009 at 10:33 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Texas wasn’t a State, it was a country. Didn’t you read my post?
Yeah, it used to be called “Mexico.”
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Tim Vaculik Says:
Texas voluntarily set aside it’s sovreignty to join the union. It can take it back if it so chooses.
I’m still waiting for your citation. Here is the U.S. Constitution. You may not have read it before. Please cite the portion that provides for Texan secession, or for any other state, for that matter.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
I stand corrected. This from
Fixed your link.
Except the part in the actual Texas Constitution doesn’t say anything about secession, either. It does state that it is “subject only to the Constitution of the Unites States,” which document provides for all 3 branches of government, making all 3 branches of government sovereign to it.
Again, it does not say that Texas gets to secede later. It does not say this, nor is that logically implied from anything that it does say. Your thesis is nothing more than utter fantasy.
However, if you wish to fight a civil war to settle the matter, we’ll be more than happy to. Us true American patriots know how to deal with treasonous seditionists like yourself.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:36 pmI’d like to take a moment and think what would have been the Republican reaction had Democrats suggested armed insurrection and secession, while Bush was president: DURING A TIME OF WAR!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pmIsn’t this as unpatriotic as you can get? I mean really, it’s not possible to be more unpatriotic.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:41 pmObama really is like Lincoln.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pmKeith Says:
Isn’t this as unpatriotic as you can get? I mean really, it’s not possible to be more unpatriotic.
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Keith Says:
Obama really is like Lincoln.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
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April 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pmKeith:
April 15th, 2009 at 10:48 pmI find it quite surreal. After 8 years of being told I was not patriotic, I didn’t support the President, etc., within 3 months of a change in administration (and not even policy in most cases) a Rep. GOVERNOR is mentioning secession? How delusional do you have to be to buy into this?
I’m a ZZ Top fan too, muzz.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:51 pmtell you what pete – we’ll keep the music groups, and Texas can take the cockroaches with them to their new country
April 15th, 2009 at 10:55 pmKeith Olbermann summed TX up quite nicely tonight.
He quoted the Civil War South Carolina governor who said that Texas is too small to be a country but too big to be an insane asylum.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:56 pmKeith Says:
Isn’t this as unpatriotic as you can get? I mean really, it’s not possible to be more unpatriotic.
What do you want to bet they start burning flags before 2012?
April 15th, 2009 at 11:01 pmElBruce,
Ah, but you missed the entire point of the article I quoted. The union is VOLUNTARY.
The powers of the federal government are limited to the ones GRANTED TO IT by the States! Check out the tenth amendment.
There is nothing seditious at all about seceding from the union, my friend.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:03 pmTim Vaculik Says:
There is nothing seditious at all about seceding from the union, my friend.
Pleas – go – I don’t give a rat’s ass
April 15th, 2009 at 11:10 pmWhaaaaaat? During a time of war? Do you not, now, wish to protect America?
April 15th, 2009 at 11:15 pmTim Vaculik Says:
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ElBruce,
Ah, but you missed the entire point of the article I quoted. The union is VOLUNTARY.
The powers of the federal government are limited to the ones GRANTED TO IT by the States! Check out the tenth amendment.
There is nothing seditious at all about seceding from the union, my friend.
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I think you better wake up Lincoln and let him know he made a big mistake!
April 15th, 2009 at 11:15 pmlet us secede during a time of war, cause we are patriots.
WTF”?
April 15th, 2009 at 11:16 pmTim Vaculik Says:
ElBruce,
Ah, but you missed the entire point of the article I quoted. The union is VOLUNTARY.
Except it doesn’t say any such damn thing.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
The powers of the federal government are limited to the ones GRANTED TO IT by the States! Check out the tenth amendment.
Okay…
So, for anything the Federal Government doesn’t pass a law on, the states or individuals get to decide. Sorry, that doesn’t say what you want it to say. On your side: a bunch of uneducated wackjobs. On my side: over two centuries of Supreme Court rulings. I win. You suck.
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Tim Vaculik Says:
There is nothing seditious at all about seceding from the union, my friend.
Let’s check:
Or, this:
I believe the last time it was an open question as to whether seceding from the United States of America constituted sedition, we settled it through violence. Now you claim, yet again, that seceding is not seditious. I claim that it is. You give no reasoning for your claim whatsoever. I stand on history and legal precedent. If you wish to re-settle the matter the same way again, I’m more than willing to go there.
Freedom isn’t free, mofo. It costs a buck or five.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:20 pmRick Perry is as Goddamned fcuking stupid as the day is long.
GO TO HELL, DIPSHIT.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:35 pmvaculink=vacuum between his ears. Deal to join the union. What a nincompoop!
April 15th, 2009 at 11:39 pmBy all means . . . go.
And take that tie with you.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:51 pm*
Tim managed to weasel in under the bar. Yay! We have a lower bar!
April 15th, 2009 at 11:59 pmMost Texans are far too ignorant to be thoroughly embarrassed by the governor’s remarks.
Normally, I’d advise ignoring the governor’s statements much as adults learn to ignore a child’s babbling, but repeating his moronic sentiments ad nauseum ought to guarantee a loss for Perry in 2012.
So keep bringing on the crazy, governor!
April 16th, 2009 at 12:03 amjoe cantwell Says:
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boring.
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April 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
I didn’t like any of your posts in this thread, either. But I was not rude enough to tell you and I didn’t really think others would be that concerned with what I thought. Did you think your critique was riveting? My, aren’t you full of yourself.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:21 am:p
Keith Says:
joe cantwell Says:
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boring.
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April 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
I didn’t like any of your posts in this thread, either. But I was not rude enough to tell you and I didn’t really think others would be that concerned with what I thought. Did you think your critique was riveting? My, aren’t you full of yourself.
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you’re right of course.
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April 16th, 2009 at 12:56 amLooks like George W. Bush can now be President of Texas. That will take care of our immigrant problem as Bush will have everyone working in Texas. This should make the Republicans happy they will have Bush running their little country.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:55 amDemagogic morons with their limp teabags. Keep Texas, just throw out the Texans. Send ‘em to the kind of third-world country they keep trying to build here, say, El Salvador or Guatemala. They’ll fit right in.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:09 amRealityCheck Says:
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Buckie Boy Says:
Obama needs Texas more than Texas needs the obama and this current group of high tax socialists.
If Texas succeeds i’d place my bet on multiple southern states following suit. Let us not forget that the southern states own the oil in the ground and the gulf. Obama’s little social experiment would be brought to its knees when there is no one left to tax.
Most states like California and New York can’t even balance a budget but simply force the people to pay higher taxes to foot the bill.
This is what you Libs had better fear…When people get fed up enough…an idea like this could catch fire. You might have won the election…but you’re attempt to silence the other half of American’s will not work.
Wait & See
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Still waiting. When exactly will this happen again?
April 16th, 2009 at 2:49 amThat nut-job Perry is engaging in sedition. They all continue to talk like ten dollar thugs. They’re the scary ones, not Obama.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:54 amTim Vaculik Says:
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Texas voluntarily set aside it’s sovreignty to join the union. It can take it back if it so chooses.
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Kinda reminds me of the Newt/McCain/Giuliani concept of marriage.
April 16th, 2009 at 3:18 am“I believe the federal government has become oppressive. I believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,”
He must be talking about the Patriot Act and defense industry dominance.
Oh, that’s right. This cankersore turned down money for unemployed Texans. He obviously doesn’t represent the majority, just himself and about 26% of the state even in Texas.
April 16th, 2009 at 3:28 amHmmm can I vote no on this one?
April 16th, 2009 at 3:28 amAny WWII veterans want to weigh in on this? I’m sure they served and fought so some pustule could whine about 13% income taxes and unemployment that wasn’t exactly as rampant before the last Repub president.
April 16th, 2009 at 3:31 amYou know what, I change my mind. This is a very brave and selfless stance.
The flood of desperate Texans, Americans, fleeing this asinine scheme would stimulate New Mexico and other states while crippling Texas even more. Most of the farmers/corporate farms would leave because they need to ship their crops freely. Most of the folks left would be the elderly (sad), and the extreme righties, basically banished and he goes down with them. It’s like the Tomb of Tal Rasha.
Oh and Rick, statesman does not mean you’ll take your state over your country. That is called territorialism (hell, maybe he does favor his tribe).
April 16th, 2009 at 3:41 amWell, I guess the scary thing here is that none of you have been paying any attention to the news!! Here, I will let you all in on a little secret…since obama took office, 22 states have claimed their 10th amendment. That is the amendment that reminds the federal government of it’s limitations!!
The states actually have more authority then the fed.s.
In fact AZ sovereignty bill reads, if 34 states total claim the 10th we will all break away from the union and form another one, that will take us back to the US Consitution. We are nearing 32 that have either claimed or are considering claiming.
I fear you obama supporters simply don’t get it!! He is out of control!! And when you have nearly 2/3rds of the states talking about re-claiming thier sovereignty, there is a major problem.
Believe me, Bush helped to fuel this fire, but obama is continuing on with the trend towards socialism. I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would choose socialism over capitalism!
Everyone needs to understand these tea parties are a lot more important then the press is letting on. The hard right in this country is trying to save what all the patriots before us have built and died for!!
April 16th, 2009 at 3:53 amRealityCheck
robbiedee Says:
Well, I guess the scary thing here is that none of you have been paying any attention to the news!! Here, I will let you all in on a little secret…since obama took office, 22 states have claimed their 10th amendment.
There’s no such thing as “claiming your 10th amendment.” You get it all the time, 24/7.
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robbiedee Says:
The states actually have more authority then the fed.s.
No, that would be a confederacy, which our government is not.
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robbiedee Says:
In fact AZ sovereignty bill reads, if 34 states total claim the 10th we will all break away from the union and form another one, that will take us back to the US Consitution.
Let me get this straight – under some blah blah condition, Arizona will secede from the United States of America, and come back to join the government authorized by the Constitution of the United States of America?
OK, you do that all you want.
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robbiedee Says:
I fear you obama supporters simply don’t get it!! He is out of control!!
Crazy man, all “whoop whoop” up in there…
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robbiedee Says:
And when you have nearly 2/3rds of the states talking about re-claiming thier sovereignty, there is a major problem.
Nearly 2/3rds of 50 is 32. Give me a list.
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robbiedee Says:
I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would choose socialism over capitalism!
I don’t believe you actually know what either of those words actually mean.
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robbiedee Says:
The hard right in this country is trying to save what all the patriots before us have built and died for!!
A minor increase in the tax rate for the top 2% of income earners in this country? Really? If anybody has ever died for that, then somebody else committed murder, IMO.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:40 amHey Gov,
Enough with the empty promises already.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:47 amIf Governor Perry wants to leave the union then let’s give him a one way ticket out of the United States of America. And he can take George W. Bush with him.
Good riddance to both of them!
April 16th, 2009 at 5:42 amRealityCheck Says:
This is what you Libs had better fear…When people get fed up enough…an idea like this could catch fire. You might have won the election…but you’re attempt to silence the other half of American’s will not work.
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….and the cons worst fears actually came true and his name is, obama and after 8 oppressive years the people did get fed up. Are you related to tim mcveigh?
Hey robbiedee,
Come back sometime when you can substantiate at least one of your claims via a link to some legitimate source, OK?
April 16th, 2009 at 5:49 amrobbiedee @235 says: “Believe me”.
Sorry. Gonna have to pass on that one. Nice try though.
April 16th, 2009 at 5:53 amGood riddance! Close the borders!
April 16th, 2009 at 6:19 amrobbiedee Says:
….”Believe me, Bush helped to fuel this fire”…..
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i didn’t see you protesting when bush helped fuel this fire, where were you?
-And which states are claiming their sovereignty, just like i thought another limbot operative with no brains?
-i didn’t not hear one person protesting their social oriented social security checks or their medicaid benefits or their disability payments?
April 16th, 2009 at 6:55 amIt would be nice to see this state take that stand. Many people seem to have forgotten Kennedy’s words, “NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU…!” Why strip America of the mechanism by which we grew to be so powerful? Reward hard-work, incentivize productivity, are these really mean and inhumane in nature?
April 16th, 2009 at 8:05 amThanks slip_left for that.
I was just about to ask if only liberal nuts commented here.
Also, pawkat, 1861 was about states rights. I understand your
April 16th, 2009 at 8:17 amconfusion since we so few remaining.
Perry is an admitted Treasonist. Glenn Beck and Fox News are aiding a abetting the act of Treason. Talk of secession is not funny. It is not good for Texas and its people. Anyone from Texas that supports secession is loco en la cabesa.
Whipping up pre-civil war sentiments of race hate and secession must be punished in our courts of law. Allowing talk of secession is also a crime.
Perry isn’t funny and talk of secession is no joke. He’s a criminal and must be treated as one.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:19 amIt’s good to know that the Feds didn’t overstep their bounds during the Bush/Chaney dictator era..cause if they did Texas would have their own el’presidente.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:35 amTexas is not a bunch of yahoos wanting to return to the good old 1850’s it just has a governor who is a yahoo. Out of 22+ million citizens there are only about 20% who think and act like Perry (all of whom seem to be Republicans). Perry is blowing air because of this state’s economy is a reliance on the federal government. We get over $8 billion a year in federal money mostly because of the many military bases in the state including the largest in the U. S.; Ft. Hood.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:35 amEarlier this week, Perry signed onto a nonbinding resolution claiming the federal government had overstepped its Constitutional authority. “I believe the federal government has become oppressive. I believe it’s become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of its citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Perry declared.
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The unbelievable hypocrisy and sheer colossal gall of people like Perry never ceases to amaze me. Obama hasn’t even been in office for ninety days yet — and I’m supposed to believe that all the “intrusion into the lives of its citizens” only started taking place within the last three months? Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiight….
BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where the @#$% was Perry for the last eight years — under a rock???? If he’s so concerned about the degree to which the federal government has overstepped its authority, then why didn’t he say anything when President George W. Bush was making it only too clear time and time again that he had little or no respect for the Constitution? Puh-leeeeze…
Perry’s not fooling anyone (or at least, not anyone who still has two functional brain cells to rub together). No…the reason why he didn’t say anything before is because he’s a hypocrite, plain and simple. He didn’t think there was anything wrong with governmental intrusion when Republicans were doing it — but now that the Democrats are in power, it’s all their fault and it must be stopped. What a self-serving scumbag he is…
April 16th, 2009 at 9:58 amDear Rick:
Please, please, please don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out.
Buh-bye!
(And can you please take La., Ms., Al., SC, Ok., Ar., Tn. and WV with you? Thanks.)
Your chum,
SenorPlaid
April 16th, 2009 at 10:00 amFunny how Gov. Perry coudln’t bring himself to say these words when Fmr. Pres. Bush was increasing the size of Federal government to the largest seen in decades. It seems it was the excessive “intrusion” of the Federal Government under Fmr. Pres. Bush that is the culprit, and nobody has allowed Pres. Obama time to decrease that excessive “intrusion” before they all started to b!t@# like whiney conservatives.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:02 amPlease f#@%ing go! Please!
What a bunch of crybabies. They lose a couple of elections and they want to leave the Union. Grow up.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:13 amI hope they do leave. The repubs don’t need they’re 36 electoral votes anyway.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:19 amhttp://www.texassecede.com/Texas%20Secession%20Facts.pdf
The majority of Texans, do not want to secede. The bandwagon attack of all Texans by the majority of you is appauling to witness as a citizen of a supposedly UNITED states. Most of you are using explatives and incompletel grammer. you sound as ignorant as you make Texans seem.
The Texas ecomony IS very stable. We do not take nearly as much Ferderal aid and assistance as other states and in fact (though perry has never been my choice for the office of Gov), Perry tried to decline the stimuls money stating that it would come with too many federal strings and would not be a good deal in the long run for our state. The feds FORCED our state to take money, which has gotten a lot fot his mess fired up.
As for the digs on Federal aid with Hurricane Ike. The government swooped in to forgo a repeat lashing at their incompetence with Hurricane Katrina. We did not petition them for assistance and have already made public declarations that we will not accept federal assistance in the face of another hurricane. Texans take pride in being able to take care of themselves. And in fact, lets not forget that we sent more aid immediately following Hurricane katrina than the federal government did initially. We harbored the refugees from New Orleans in the aftermath as well.
You can all critizize Texas and continue to believe that we are all ignorant Bush Supporters, but that is not the truth. I hated the Bush administration, as did many of my friends and family. We were decieved and misled just like the rest of the country. But, that doesn’t mean that the new administration is going to be a “savior to the union.” Socialism is not democracy….
Texans as a whole are seeking to re-establish the true intent of the U.S. Constitution in which each state is soveriegn and the people govern. We are ALL made up of the UNITED STATED OF AMERICA, not the States Governed By Washington.
God Bless America, and God Bless TEXAS.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:32 amAnd yes, I do have type-os and mispellings….not perfect. But then again, I don’t claim to be.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:35 amWhiny. Crybabies. Sore losers. Fox News puppets. Teabaggers. Hate mongerers. Racists….
Is this really what we should be calling these people who took time off to protest the President of the United States?
April 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am?
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Hell yes.
Make it seem like ten.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:44 amMy Daddy always said that if he was diagnosed with cancer and only had a year to live he would want to live it in Texas.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:44 amThanks TP, for posting the punchline first.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:46 amtexasproud2009 says:
“The Texas ecomony IS very stable. We do not take nearly as much Ferderal aid and assistance as other states”
Come again?
http://cbs11tv.com/local/OMB.Watch.medicare.2.507740.html
April 16th, 2009 at 10:47 amtexasproud2009 Says:
And yes, I do have type-os and mispellings….not perfect. But then again, I don’t claim to be.
Damn I missed all the other posters claiming to be perfect. Nor did I see any posters claiming that all Texans think the same. You are right, you are not perfect. The fact is that the Governor of Texas said:
The attacks on the President and the United States by teabaggers is extremely hypocritical coming from a group that called any Bush criticism anti-american.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:02 amThis really says alot about Gov. Rick Perry’s character. When the going gets tough, RUN.
And this clown wants to be president?
April 16th, 2009 at 11:05 amlivelongandprosper ….. buying into media specultion and attept to sway facts won’t make your points any more believable. If you get your quotes from CBS, I pity you.
And I never said any of you rclaimed to be perfect. You are unbelievably defensive for a person who is convinced that they are right.
And who are any of you to call anyone who attacks the policies of this president as being un-american. Aren’t you the same people who attacked Bush?
This is why I am now an independent. I didn’t like Bush and I don’t like Obama. Why blindly follow any man or party. Neither side is right!
You told Texans to grow up….. hmmm. That seems like a good idea here too people.
God Bless America and God Bless TEXAS!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:14 amtexasproud2009 Says:
And yes, I do have type-os and mispellings….not perfect. But then again, I don’t claim to be.
You are unbelievably ignorant if you don’t realize the implications of that statement.
And who are any of you to call anyone who attacks the policies of this president as being un-american.
Did I say that or did I point out that the teabaggers said that?
Neither side is right!
I completely agree with you. I don’t like politicians period. Given the choice of McCain (or Bush) and Obama, given what I can gather from each candidate and what they stand for, I picked Obama. And I still would.
You told Texans to grow up….. hmmm
Please point out where I said this.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:26 amOh one more thing for “livelongandprosper”
You apparenlty don’t truly believe in your own screen name. Obama claims to want everyone to prosper, but only to certain degree. LOL. if you become to prosperous, he will take your money and give it someone on welfare.
Are you one those who actually think he will pay your mortgage?
Do you agree with Geitner that the government should have the right to force a CEO to resign from his own company?
Does the government have the right to step into your house and tell you how to balance your check book, watch you while you sleep, and tell you how to think?
Government is overstepping… plain and simple.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:28 amI’m sorry texasproud2009, but the truth hurts. You just can’t go around making insane claims knowing you don’t have any factual backing. That’s Fox News job.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:29 amLOL… you think every line is just for you :) ROFL – that’s great!
My last post was directed at you though…. just to clarify. LOL.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:30 amSee Ya’ll Later!
GOD BLESS TEXAS!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:32 am@Powkat
The South is going to secede? Again? Are they bringing back slavery, too?
I bet if you poll the teabaggers, you’ll find a substantial number who think that the outcome of last November’s election clearly shows that getting rid of slavery was a very bad idea.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:48 amTexas doesn’t have the right to secede: Neither did the 13 colonies, the founding fathers were traitors to the British crown.
Texas will be conquered by Mexico: Mexico can’t conquer Chiapas or clamp down on the cartels for that matter, I think we’ll hold our own should our Mexican friends cross the Rio Grande in anger.
I’m really digging all the Texas hate in this thread from so called enlightened progressives especially the stuff regarding George Bush, that boy is a Connecticut yankee who couldn’t wipe his ass without his daddy’s help, he is not a reflection of Texas as a whole.
When we leave, and it’s only a matter of time at this rate, you’ll miss our industries, natural resources and infrastructure. Texas is home to 58 of the Forbes top 500 companies, the port of Houston is the second largest in the country. Texas’ oil and gas industry leads the nation in the number of active land rigs (912 as of July ‘08), which is about 50 percent of the U.S. total. Texas is also number one in crude oil refining capacity (4,509,196 barrels/day).
I look forward to all you mean spirited, ‘enlightened’ yankees paying out the nose for your heating oil, gasoline and petroleum products while looking down on us poor, backward, ignorant Texans.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:00 pmtexasproud2009 Says:
LOL… you think every line is just for you :) ROFL – that’s great!
Wow, you didn’t make that very clear. LOL I guess your bitter at everyone that you don’t agree with.
Are you one those who actually think he will pay your mortgage?
WTF?
You apparenlty don’t truly believe in your own screen name.
Are you serious? How old are you?
See Ya’ll Later!
GOD BLESS TEXAS!
Bye for now. Tell your God I said hello.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:01 pmI remember when Rick Perry tried to make STD shots for girls mandatory and the people of Texas wholly rejected Perry. Hes trying to win back some popularity after his “invasive” STD shot stunt.
Dont fall for his being against invasive government spiel he is very much for invasive government
April 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pmXisithrus,
Cervical cancer is a terrible disease, and I’d support the initiative if the vaccine was a known quantity. But would you really want to require the administration of a new (and relatively expensive) vaccine to children when possible long term consequences are unknown?
April 16th, 2009 at 12:49 pmSTL Cynic Says:
I think Rick Perry should understand that we’ll take all of our arms and munitions before they declare their autonomy. We will take all property of the Federal Government and we won’t lift a hand to help them when Mexico attacks their arrogant a$$es. If they think they’re over-taxed, let them pay for their own roads. We’ll refuse to honor their requests for Social Security and Medicare. The US will come out way ahead in this transaction.
First off, Your UNITES STATES LAW States, possession is 9/10th the law. Try and take em, the US might have another war on there hands. I really do hope Texas becomes Independant. Like I said, Texas would have NO RESTRICTIONS on kickin anyones a$$, including, Mexico, which im a proud Mexican as well. Mexico can try, but after several of there cities are blown to hell they’ll call it off. Listen Mexicos got its own shit to worry about, and since Texas would be Independent from the Fed, and all that we can the secure the boarders properly. Another thing, whos to say that Mexico doesnt allie-up against America, or just allow Mexicans to wonder freely over to America, id help em, what are you going to do about it? not a thing, so before you go saying that Mexico will go to war with Texas, remember most of us are, already Mexican!
April 16th, 2009 at 1:57 pm“I believe the federal government has become oppressive. You want oppressive? I’ll give you oppressive.”
Thanks, ricky, but you’ve already given us oppressive. You are the one who decided that poor kids in Texas didn’t need SCHIP. You are the one who has put all the information being collected on Texans under your office’s control instead of the police. You are the one who decided to make Texas the most polluted state in the country. You are the one who decided that contaminating drinking water in South Texas with uranium mining waste is perfectly ok. You are the one who decided that Texans who qualified for Food Stamps should have no way to sign up for them. You are the one who decided that Texans should pay more than three times as much for their electricity as they used to. You were the one who decided that insurance companies should be allowed to screw over Texans.
If you want a running commentary on the way ricky boy and his moneybag supporters have been screwing over average Texans, go to the Texas Observer. It’s enough to make you wonder if this guy isn’t a Nazi government official who fled Germany after the war.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pmThe background of the “required” HPV vaccinations is that the vaccine is made by Merck and Merck had donated tons of money to Perry’s last campaign for governor. This decision was pay back for their investment in Perry’s career.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:20 pmI keep reading about “socialism”, but none of the people whining about it give any indication that they even begin to understand the concept. It’s like a thousand Kevin James’ going on with a talking point hoping that they’ll never be asked to explain what they’re talking about.
As for Texans backing ricky boy, remember that he got around 36% of the vote in the last election. And remember that all the major metropolitan areas and the Valley went blue, and that Democrats are within one vote of parity in the State government.
The ones making all the noise thumping their chests and beating on the ground with clubs are mainly the right wing bible thumpers whose whole outlook on life is one of belief rather than reality and knowledge. They are the ones who get all excited about slogans without actually knowing what they are talking about. See “socialism” above.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pmGo for it Rick and take all your republican friends with you. That is one way to get rid of all the garbage.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pmHistory repeats itself. Remember what happened the last time a state tried to secede, Governor.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pmThis is diff this is a state that can… and probably will
April 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pmAlso, Texas aggie your aggie’s showing.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pmDont let it happen again
April 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
When we leave, and it’s only a matter of time at this rate, you’ll miss our industries, natural resources and infrastructure. Texas is home to 58 of the Forbes top 500 companies, the port of Houston is the second largest in the country. Texas’ oil and gas industry leads the nation in the
number of active land rigs (912 as of July ‘08), which is about 50 percent of the U.S. total. Texas is also number one in crude oil refining capacity (4,509,196
barrels/day).
Many of those 58 companies moved to Texas from other states and would move back because they know where the market is. As for your oil and gas rigs I would like to see how you survive once you learn that your off shore rigs and many of your oil and gas fields are located in the good old U.S.A. so how much refining will you really be doing?
First off, i think its funny that you feel that the Texas economy will fail when it seems that its the only surviving.
Secondly, I doubt that the companies will move, reason is because with them there the economy will be stable firstly as i said before, and also because there law that states that we can fire someone nor does it say that we can ‘pressure’ someone into an early retirement. So with Texas staying out of the companies business and the Fed’s taking total control over the US I see them running to us. But dont worry, well send all the immigrants to the US just like they were trying to before.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pmWell when you try and figure out another way to make us feel bad for leaving ill be here mikala.
Dont worry I bet we’d still be friends with the US, just clean-up your whole economy crisis over there and well think about returning your call…
April 16th, 2009 at 4:32 pmAlso, about the oil rigging, yeah there might be some stuff from the company thats within the US, thats not the issue, the issue is that, TEXAS itself, not combined with all the oil companies assests else where. Texas, itself produces half of the US oil that it needs daily.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:50 pmSee ya.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pmMikala,
If you reread my statement you’ll notice I’m talking about oil rigs located within the territorial boundaries of Texas, not those offshore rigs located in the Gulf of Mexico or inside other states. An independent Texas would have territorial waters and the right to those natural resources located therein.
As for those corporations leaving, that’s a possibility but quite a few of those corporations are the sort that can’t just pack up and move overnight such as shipping, petroleum extraction and refinement, manufacturing, etc.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:05 pmOh man its hilarious reading some of these boneheaded statements calling Texans unpatriotic, treasonous, and what have you. You are complete fools. We believe in the constitution. Remember that piece of paper that started our country to greatness? Yea, the US government no longer gives a rats ass over that.
And guess what, we can legally leave the union. LEGALLY.
Before you say something idiotic, learn your history.
TEXAS was its own country (Republic of Texas). The USA begged us to join, yes begged, I’m sorry if that offends you but we have plenty of resources and land, which the USA wanted. Texas DID NOT want to be a part of the union. The USA begged and finally Texas did join, BUT AFTER we got a few clauses: The right to fly our flag as high as the USA flag (we are the only ones who can do that) and the right to secede the union, and continue being an independent REPUBLIC (we are also the only ones who can do that, and the only ones who apparently know and understand what a republic is).
So continue acting completely ignorant over these issues. You’re just showing jealously, misjudgment, and idiocy, and it only makes me hope for secession even more.
Why would we want to stay apart of this over-sized encroaching government any longer? We have our own natural resources and our own power grid. We don’t need the USA, they always needed us.
But… I do love the USA. What is happening right now is sad, I would rather things turn around and Texas stay in the Union. But with people like you in the general public and running our country, I don’t think there is any hope for that.
Wake up, READ. Don’t create you’re world view off of anything you see on TV, it all has agendas, and all corrupted. Read a god damn book and learn, work your brain, and open your eyes.
So, have fun, while we accept the responsibility of creating the only legitimate republic and democracy in the world.
April 17th, 2009 at 4:57 amAND ALSO: I am not a republican or democrat. I hate both parties, and believe both generally want the same thing. The past four presidents have all pushed the same agendas, and it makes me feel that each successor is taught by the previous president before they come into office.
I also have never liked Rick Perry one bit. I’m from Dallas in case you couldn’t figure it out. Oh we also have the best football team in the country… but that’s nor here or there. I don’t believe Rick Perry is a good governor, and believed that he was going to lead us down the same road as Obama, Bush, Clinton, and Bush 1.
This is the FIRST time I have liked one thing he said. He didn’t come out and say we were going to secede either, he just gave something for Obama to think about.
Way to go Rick.
-LONE STAR STATE-
April 17th, 2009 at 5:03 amI hate to say this, being a Texan, but it is too bad Texas didn’t pull out of the union before the year 2000. It would have saved the world a lot of trouble. Unless Bush thought Texas could invade Iraq on its own (absent the U.S. military and all that bombing power).
April 17th, 2009 at 6:12 amOh and one more thing.
George Bush was ***NOT*** born in Texas. He was born in New Haven, Connecticut. The University of Texas declined his application, and he went up North to Yale.
HE IS NOT A TEXAN. IS NOT. He has some fascination with us and pretends to move brush whenever he can to prove it. He is now hiding in Dallas, hoping we won’t know hes there but soon we will kick his ass out.
STOP FIGHTING FOR YOUR SIDE. DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN its always the same thing. Red is in power blue hates everything. Blue is in power red hates everything. I agree this is happening, but all the people protesting and believing in America don’t care about each other political sides.
This is about the government. WHOEVER is in power. I was against Bush and now I’m against Obama. He’s doing the same things Bush did… So wake up and look around. READ READ READ READ READ.
April 17th, 2009 at 6:13 amKennedy in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram pretty much said that Perry was full of it. He even contacted his high school and college history teachers and they said he was wrong that Texas could not secede.
What a Neanderthal!!
April 17th, 2009 at 11:53 amOK Pat obviously senile dementia has set in. Time to see the nice young men that will need to take care of you soon.burun estetigi rent a car arac kiralama
April 18th, 2009 at 5:14 amsac ekimi
This could work but only if we SELL Texas to Mexico. We get rid of Bush, Perry, Bush, Rove, Bush, DeLay, Bush, Ross Perot, Bush, Phil Gramm, Bush — to name only a few Texas radicals…and we make a few bucks on the side. We won’t get much $$$ for it, what with all those thieves, liars, and radicals calling it home, but we’ll get enough to finally put up a fence making sure those nuts can’t sneak back in. I say, head ‘em up, move ‘em out.
April 18th, 2009 at 7:16 amRick Perry: If at First You Don’t Secede ….
See
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/if-at-first-you-dont-secede/
April 18th, 2009 at 7:59 pmBadmoodman Says:
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Gov. Rick Perry: Texas might have to secede.
- – Perry can forget a White House run in 2012. But he can always suceed Jefferson Davis as #2.
He would actualy be suceeding DR. Anson Jones as the fifth presedent of The Republic of Texas.
If you are going to shoot your mouth off about Texas, you should at least read our wiki page. you may not know our history, but you can damn sure bet we do!
and another thing! considering that a third of the country’s gasoline and diesel fuel is made in Houston, you will cry to have us back when your paying 10 bucks a gallon at the pump and we have a surplus.
April 18th, 2009 at 8:40 pmHave any of you read the Declaration of Independence?…The constitution?…The 10th Amendment for starters?That great document gives any state the right to leave the Union.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:17 amThe 10th Amendment…The powers not delegated to the United States by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. That is what this is about…no where in the Constitution does it grant Obama or any other presidents the powers to do what he is doing and what others have done over at least the past 80 years. We believe in the Constitution and that’s why our State Constitution almost exact copy. Texas is the only state that entered the Union in a Treaty not an annexation. Texas was a free and Independent State when it enter the Union and that alone give Texas the right to leave anytime it wants to… and if you disagree then you don’t believe in the Declaration of Independence because that’s what our founding fathers did and that is what Texans are doing. Over thirty States have passed resolutions expressing the tyrannical behavior of this government…it no longer follows the constitution, or have you all forgotten We the people for the people by the people. By the powers granted in the Constitution the people have all the power and government are granted rights by the people not government gives you rights…We have the rights not them, the are our servants. Since the government chooses to follow the Constitution we no longer recognize them as a rightful government and we want out. And why do you all care if Texas leave…you dont like us so let us go and we will live peacefully and watch you destroy your own country by socializing it.
Texas Rules and you can all go to heck and if we want to seceed we can and we deserve to if this country is going to heck anyway.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:31 pmThe Houston metro area GDP is large enough to be ranked about 24th among countries in the world – meaning there are only 24 countries in the world that have economies larger than the Houston metro area. Add DFW, Austin, and San Antonio and Texas might just have an economy as large as to be in the top 10 countries in the world.
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:46 pmFor every $1.00 Texans’ pay in federal taxes $0.70 comes back in federal programs (comparrison to Massachusetts that for everyone $1.00 they pay they get $2.12 back).
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:58 pmI’m from Texas and many of us here think “Sarah” Perry is an idiot. His ideas are dumb and our family hates that he’s giving Texas A & M such a bad name. Most alumni are not as ignorant. Trust me, Texans know he’s nuts.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 amI was born and raised in Texas, although I’ve spent a lot of time in other states and countries in my life. I’m a registered independent voter, but I vote Democratic 90% of the time. I’m often called a socialist by my right-wing friends, although that’s not true.
April 23rd, 2009 at 2:35 amThere are a lot of great people in Texas. Unfortunately, there is also a sizeable faction who like to speak first and think later. Or even worse, not think at all. These people are also very vocal.
By my best estimates, I think the Texas I.Q.(Idiot Quotient) is about 20-25% of the overall population. That leaves a lot of sensible, rational people. Rick Perry knows we can’t secede, he’s just grasping at straws. He recieved 39% of the popular vote last time. He’s done.
I am an American first, and I’m embarassed by this idiot. Please don’t judge us all by his irresponsible behavior. Peace.
jerseyboyblue Says:
History repeats itself. Remember what happened the last time a state tried to secede, Governor.
Indeed. The Confederacy decided it would be fun to attack a union held fort and started a war. Sometimes people tend to forget the little details such as who started what war.
And anyways if Texas did leave the union, as is their right, and the US attacked then what do you suppose would happen? This would be the second time in recent years that the US blatantly attacked another country for no good reason. How long would it be before the UN declares the United States a global threat?
That crap could start another world war, and this time the oppressors would be us, not the Germans.
May 1st, 2009 at 1:33 amHmm, I feel I must admit a mistake. As it seems, in the 1868 case of Texas vs. White the United States Supreme Court ruled that secession was illegal. The only way a state could leave the union was “through revolution, or consent of the States”.
So, where does this leave Texas? Well, let’s look at it in both ways, either the guy is a)completely bananas as most of you suspect, or b)it’s a scare tactic to try to get the government to reform.
a) The guy’s two fries short of a happy meal. Ok, protest. Get him the heck outta office. If we wanna fix this country it would start by getting the idiots out of office. This isn’t unique to Republicans. This “idiot phenomenon” isn’t unique to Republicans. I know plenty of Democrats that don’t deserve to set foot in any sort of office (sorry, Kerry, you switch sides more times per day then the average computer processor switch does in a minute, we don’t need that)
b)slap his wrists. Scare tactics are cheap. He doesn’t like the government, fine. Personally, I don’t like Obama’s spending policies either. I didn’t like Bush’s policies. It is the right of the people to petition the government, but what good is one voice against several million?
People can champion Obama all they want. While he might be brighter and more stable then Bush he hasn’t really been effective in doing anything. The recession isn’t getting better, we still have an annoying pirate problem apparently, there is still rampant corruption in all areas of the government and business. Obviously prison isn’t phasing these guys one bit. I’d almost advocate bringing back the guillotine and hosting public executions of corrupt business men and law makers with mandatory attendance to drill a zero tolerance policy to this kind of crap. The slogan could be “Do your damn job correctly or your head’ll be in this basket”. Bush and his cronies wouldn’t have lasted a week under that policy and the guys coming in to office would know not to screw around.
May 1st, 2009 at 2:17 am