DC Tea Party Protesters Agree: ‘Chairman Maobama’ Is Leading The Country On A Path To Socialism
DC Tea Party Protesters Agree: ‘Chairman Maobama’ Is Leading The Country On A Path To Socialism
Today, ThinkProgress went over to Lafayette Square Park in front of the White House to attend one of the many right-wing Tax Day Tea Parties taking place nationwide. Although the speaking program wasn’t set to begin for another hour or so, there were already about 50 people standing around in the rain from as far away as Greece, Kentucky, California, and Tennessee.
The protest organizers were struggling to get the event together. They had originally planned to unload a rented truck filled with a million tea bags into the park, but were stopped by officials because they didn’t have a permit. A woman in charge of the protest announced that the right-wing Competitive Enterprise Institute had generously agreed to display the tea bags at its headquarters a few blocks away. She also said that there were originally supposed to be two stages with events, but the metropolitan police had blocked them from putting a stage on the sidewalk. A woman standing next to me leaned over and said, “That’s big government for you!”
Despite the dreary weather, participants were in high spirits. Almost everyone with whom we talked had heard about the protests through Fox News (because the rest of the mainstream media wasn’t covering them), including Glenn Beck’s 912 Project. A few young men had learned about them through Facebook as well.
There seemed to be universal consensus that President Obama was leading the country into socialism, a talking point repeatedly pushed on Fox News and other conservatives. The leading concern by participants was the government’s out-of-control spending and taxation (although one woman was also against “amnesty for illegals” and there was another sign protesting “card check”).
ThinkProgress spoke with three protesters from Pennsylvania who, like many other participants, thought that former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney represented the future for conservatives. One young man said that it wasn’t “fair” that “if you make over $200,000 a year, you get a higher tax.” “America was founded on building yourself up,” he added. Watch it:
Another group of protesters — from Kentucky and Levittown, PA — also liked Romney, but were skeptical of his government health care plan in Massachusetts. They believed that “drug companies” have been “taking care of people” and care should be left to the free market:
SPEAKER 1: My problem with people who don’t have health care — If you can’t afford it, ok, I’m with it. But don’t tell me you can’t afford it when you’re driving a new car with rims, you’ve got a cell phone, and every electronic gadget under the sun.
SPEAKER 2: Well, it’s just like everything else. They’re trying to address a problem that really isn’t a problem. Just like when they gave us senior Medicare with the drug benefit — we didn’t need it. The drug companies were taking care of people who could not afford it.
Some other scenes from the Lafayette Square tea party:
Although one man insisted to me that the tea parties were not “political” or “partisan,” we didn’t see any anti-Bush/Republican gear.
UPDATE: TP reader Chris captured more pictures from the event:
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LOL — all 50 of them, huh? – all white and stupid. Quite a grass roots movement there.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:14 pmLooks like fun.
Now where’s my white hood and matching robe…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm“Poltical” Pirates? Is that a minor-league affiliate of the Pittsburgh’s Buccos?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmAwwww, that’s just adorable…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmWell, I wanted to feel snarky, but this just makes me sad. I’m sorry for these folks. Really sorry.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmThey just can’t get over the fact that they LOST.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmBut don’t tell me you can’t afford it when you’re driving a new car with rims, you’ve got a cell phone, and every electronic gadget under the sun.
“Joe the plumber” first comes to mind.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:17 pmLooks like a whole bunch of impressionable people with way too much time on their hands. So sad.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pmAnyone who see a single BLACK person in these hallucinate events, should report back ASAP.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:20 pmI wonder how Faux News is going to place the camera’s to make 50 people look like several thousand??
April 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pmI love you crazy fcuking stupid lunatic Regressives! Especially when the spotlight is all you baby!!!
PURE COMEDY GOLD.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pmWhere is Malkin, I thought she was attending the DC teabaggin’ party.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pmIt would be interesting to ask the people sporting (and stretching) the “Chairman Maobama” t-shirts what that phrase means.
My guess is that they don’t even know what it means; some dittohead told them to wear it, so they did, just like all the rest of the lemmings.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pmThe path to socialism? I’ve got news for them. They were born in a socialist country.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pmWe need more pictures please. This provides great lulz.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pmWhat a sad display
April 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pmIt’s raining on their parade
Puppies chase their tails
Republicans, Party of Abe “you can fool some of the people all of the time” Lincoln.
Bankrupt the federal government by cutting taxes for the rich while borrowing a trillion dollars – off budget – for two wars — no protests.
Pass a 3/4 trillion dollar bailout (again with (borrowed funds) so financial company CEOs can make off with hundreds of millions in “bonuses” — no protests.
Pass a deficit budget to put working class Americans to work – PROTEST!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pmShorter attendee comment:
I’m way to stupid to ever earn $200,000 a year, but if I weren’t I’d be pissed that I had to pay more taxes.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pmhuh?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pmI’d be curious if these people knew what socialism really was…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pmRTDROZEK Says:
April 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pmI forgot to take my prozak this morning.
Only in America can the super-rich, the wealthy talkshow and politico pundits get the rightwing trailer-trash to turn out and protest for their causes.
I mean, I don’t see any rich and famous in the crowd. No CEO’s or the well-heeled executives. No one from the Thousand Dollar Suit Crowd. Just the usual Neocon-sloganed tshirts streached over an assortment of beer-bellies.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:24 pmRTDROZEK
You’re gonna lose your voice if you keep shouting like that. ;)
April 15th, 2009 at 12:25 pmRTDROZEK,
Where were you when George W. Bush emptied the treasury of this country?
Hypocrite.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:26 pmRTDROZEK
Flagged again for stupidity and all caps…
….what an intelligent poster, we are all amazed at your ability to spout nonsense.
Those teabaggers are a real smart looking group…haahaha, morons.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:26 pm“WE THE “AMERICAN PEOPLE” ”
Ummmm, “We the American People” voted for President Obama.
We kicked out the Republicans…remember? It just happened in November.
“We the American People” seem to be quite happy with President Obama per the polls.
Oh, you must be yelling about the “real Americans”…..
April 15th, 2009 at 12:26 pmRTDROZEK:
HAVE BLACK UN HELICOPTERS BEEN BUZZING YOUR BOMB SHELTER AGAIN???
April 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pmThis is worth posting, AGAIN…
… and , ChicagoTeaParty.com., registered in August 2008 by Chicago radio producer Zack Christenson, was live within twelve hours.
Huh… ChicagoTeaParty.com, registered in August 2008…???
Gee… IMAGINE THAT… a website named “ChicagoTeaParty.Com”, organized SIX MONTHS EARLIER.
ChicagoTeaParty.com was just one part of a larger network of Republican sleeper-cell-blogs set up over the course of the past few months, all of them tied to a shady rightwing advocacy group coincidentally named the “Sam Adams Alliance,” whose backers have until now been kept hidden from public.
Cached google records that we discovered show that the Sam Adams Alliance took pains to scrub its deep links to the Koch family money as well as the fake-grassroots “tea party” protests going on today.
All of these roads ultimately lead back to a more notorious rightwing advocacy group, FreedomWorks, a powerful PR organization headed by former Republican House Majority leader Dick Armey and funded by Koch money.
http://www.wikio.com/news/Zack+Christenson
This whole teabaggin’ spectacle is about as genuwine as Santelli’s
Newticles®…
With Newticles®- It’s like nothing ever changed…
http://www.neuticles.com/
April 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pmNice Haiku, Cheesflap.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pmLookit all them white people complaining, spurred on by an entire “news” network.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pmOne should not judge a book by it’s cover, Susan Boyle just made that clear, BUT do any of those people pictured really make over $200,000 a year?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmIsn’t crazy person, Alan Keyes surpose to be the key note speaker for this event?
Watched some of Rachel’s show last night where she had a Libertarian on who said that the GOP party basically stole their idea about the tea party rallies and they are quite pissed at them.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmKerry – Combat Veteran Served in Vietnam
Kennedy – served in the army
Murtha – is a freaking MARINE
Why do the troops hate the troops?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmblackwidow,
RIZVIPZ must be
talkingshouting about the “real” Americans — those with white skin, who are not Democrats.:-D
April 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmRTDROZEK works here.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmThank you TP for talking to these twits so we don’t have to. A few questions for the attendees if you are in need:
(1) For the nice young white boys from Pennsylvania: Do any of you have a government-backed student loan? Do you understand that such programs are examples of socialism?
(2) For the nice racist talking about health insurance and rims: Do you know the average cost of a comprehensive health insurance plan for a family of four? Do you know the rate at which that cost has risen over the past 20 years?
(3) For the waterhead who thinks the drug companies were taking care of people who could not afford their medication: Do you know why people travel to Canada to purchase their prescription drugs? Do you support a health care system that requires Americans to subsidize drug company profits by paying substantially more for a prescription than citizens of countries with comprehensive government insurance plans?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pmI remember vividly taking part in organized protests during the sixties. During the first part of the decade, it was civil rights marches and rallies, and during the later 60’s it was protests about our presence in Vietnam.
These protests were peaceful, well organized, and extremely focused. We all knew exactly what we were protesting, most of us were well-informed on the issue we were protesting, and anybody who observed us knew exactly what our message was.
What, exactly, is the message of these teabaggers? Government spending? Taxes? Illegal immigration? Card check? It’s all very muddy. They have no clear message at all, and most of their signs point to scary imaginary situations that most informed people recognize don’t exist (such as “skyrocketing taxes” and conflating President Obama with Osama bin Laden).
April 15th, 2009 at 12:29 pmraynman Says:
I wonder how Faux News is going to place the camera’s to make 50 people look like several thousand??
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CGI?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:29 pmAh, RTDROZEK. Thank you for giving us a reminder of the tragic connection between venereal disease and mental illness. I sincerely hope that you are getting attention for both conditions.
p.s. — don’t go to a tea party today, cupcake; you have enough health problems without suffering rug-burns on your knees from tea-bagging on Astro-turf.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pmBeware of HUGE PORK
April 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pmThe West wind is an old man
Monkey typewriters
This has all the earmarks of a “whole lotta nothin” but I hope someone is watching the Fux feeds to see if there is any computer “enhancement” of the crowd size.
I wonder how these folks all got the day off? Or are they simply the unemployed enjoying a day of extended benefits courtesy of the government they’re protesting?
PEACE
April 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pmIf the teabag crowd really gave a crap, they’d protest Obama’s continuation of torture and secret prisons. They’d be horrified that his press secretary laughs about it. They laugh about breaking treaties that require them to prosecute Bushco for torture. Ha ha. This is so fun.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/04/white-house-joking-about-torture-investigation
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/41709
April 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pmA quick perusal of the top of the hour, 24 hr “news” channels and not much to report.
This is SO utterly pale in comparison to the rallies held by Obamaheads leading up to the November victory.
RIP GOP.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pmwood guy @13 — yes, having a beer gut would appear to be the price of admission TO this exclusive event — I need to wander on down with my OWN SIGN, “DON’T FEED THE HIPPOPOTAMAI” and exercise my constitutional right to mock these poor fools.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pmRTDROZEK; you’re a sad, delusional idiot.
And stop shouting.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pmDid you notice…all a bunch of old, white, pot bellied redneck morons…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pmMost of these idiots don’t even know what socialism means.
The floodgates of insanity have opened. Better bring a poncho. Bless their hearts…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:33 pmThese clowns are just happy to be protesting something, anything, check out the grins. Next week it’ll be the fat content in their Big Macs.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:33 pmLiving here on the main street, smack dab in the center of a red town in the center of the reddest part of my state, I’ve heard not one horn blast at noon. Here, across from the town’s admin. building, not one group of any size has gathered yet. Stay tuned for further reports from the red front.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pmWhy is Think Progress interviewing people with Psychotic Disorders.
What characteristics are associated with psychotic disorder?
Some of the characteristics associated with psychotic disorders include delusions, hallucinations, bizarre behavior, incoherent or disorganized speech, and/or disorganized behavior.
Delusions are described as false, inaccurate beliefs the person holds onto even when he/she is presented with accurate information.
Sort of like believing Conservatism works after the last 8 years.
Examples of delusions include:
1. Grandiose delusion: This occurs when a person’s belief about his/her own importance or station in life is grossly out of proportion to what is really true. For instance, a person might believe that they are Jesus Christ. They may believe the President is an illegal immigrant, Ninja, Muslim Anti-Christ.
2. Persecutory delusion: This occurs when a person believes that there is a conspiracy to harass, punish, or attack him/her. The person also might believe that the group to which he/she belongs is being harassed or punished.
Example: DHS releases a report about right wing extremism and all conservatives wonder if the report is about them.
95% of Americans are going to receive a tax cut and your protesting the 5% who will pay higher taxes when they hide most of there money anyway. These people have to be suffering from a psychotic disorder.
Think Progress should be ashamed for exploiting those with these issues.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pmWe got maybe 100-120 here in Philadelphia in “Love Park” but you really can’t tell how many are just curious. The number of people with signs was maybe 50-60. All white, all lower middle class and all wet.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pmOhhh…Im on Fox’s virtual tea party video stream right now. It looks like they got a whole 500-1000 to show up in Boston.
And you can imagine how many additional people trucked in to go to the “Boston Tea Party”
LOLOLOLOLOL
April 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pmLooking at the photos, I see some dropouts and the parents who spawned them. Great representation there teabaggers.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pmOf the three boys in the interview only one had his lobotomy showing.
Uninformed morons.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pmYou know (and I am just thinking out loud)if extermination gangs went around and killed all these people at these tea bagging parties, American literacy rates would instantly improve.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pmPeaceful Militas?
You are talking about armed insurrection against the elected government of the United States of America.
Exactly what is it you are willing to kill other American citizens for? What is it you are willing to die for, to have your loved ones killed for?
And please don’t say you’re fighting against a Marxist Government – that only goes to show that you know nothing about Marxism.
What is it you hope to achieve with an armed insurrection that you did not achieve in the electoral process? You talk of judges overturning the will of the people, but isn’t that what you want to do with an armed rebellion?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pmblackwidow,
Malkin was looking for the party with the most neo-nazis.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:37 pmI always wondered what the Fringe looked like! The problem is that Fringe Teabaggers are the type that get big press coverage they don’t merit. ie. become a fringee and get your “Face on the Page.”
April 15th, 2009 at 12:38 pmWhy isn’t RTDROZEK out at a teabagging rally? He’s well-informed enough to join in. Plus they could probably use someone who shouts out his ignorance.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:38 pmBriseadh na Firefly #17,
Kind of makes you (me) embarassed to be an american, doens’t it.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pmNews from the redfront:Just now a portly gentleman pulled his truck to the side of the street, got out, tried to tug his belt up over is gut,looked around, checked his watch, shook his head, and left. My guess is he was either casing the area for a terrorist attack, or he was expecting to join a group that never materialized.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pmNoMoreBush Says:
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wood guy @13 — yes, having a beer gut would appear to be the price of admission TO this exclusive event — I need to wander on down with my OWN SIGN, “DON’T FEED THE HIPPOPOTAMAI” and exercise my constitutional right to mock these poor fools.
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I hear they’re particularly fond of pumpkins.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm“Protesting the fat content of their Big Macs” — ROTFLMAO. That and the only one had his lobotomy showing made me actually laugh out loud.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pmYou know. You’re right. This country is more fascist than socialist.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5157102/Guantanamo-inmate-is-first-to-speak-from-inside-camp.html
April 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
‘They had originally planned to unload a rented truck filled with a million tea bags into the park, but were stopped by officials because they didn’t have a permit.’
…lol, the wingnuts can’t even organise a protest properly.
No wonder the last 8 years were such a phuck up
April 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pmWingnuttery = Baffoonery
These people are carrying water for Newt Gingrich and Dick Armey and they are too stupid to realize it. These are not the top 2% who will realize a tax increase. These folks have already received a tax cut but haven’t figured it out yet.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pmBumpkins like pumpkins.
Heh.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pmThe Tulsa feed has well under 1000. Thanks Fox news!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pmYou have a script for this, or do you just make up the crazy as you go along?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:42 pmHow many people are actually at these events? I remember the protest against the Iraq War had a couple hundred thousand, and we are supposed to be impressed with a few thousand in dozens of cities? Big Friggin Deal!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:42 pmI KNOW! It’s like they don’t even know that you need permission from the government before you protest the government!
IDIOTS!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:42 pmRTDROZEK.
First, a majority of people elected Obama.
Additionally, the deficit spending was happening way before Obama.
The tea parties are legitimate protests from those that are concerned the government is going into too much debt or that taxes to fund new programs will become excessive, but it’s hypocritical to try to blame that on Obama without acknowledge the fiscal irresponsibility of republicans. Bush and republicans spent like drunken sailors when they had their chance.
The idea that the protests are really based on racism are a sad distraction. People can oppose higher levels of taxation. That’s an idea that predated our founding. People can disagree with budget priorities.
While the Obama administration takes the action it feels necessary to improve the economic conditions and address societal problems, it should be cognizant that the money comes from the people. The people need to feel comfortable that their money is being spent wisely.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:42 pmRTDROZEK is flagged for racist bullshit.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:42 pmAs Thom Hartman has pointed out, these knuckleheads don’t even know the reason for the original Boston Tea Party. It was not a protest about tax increases, it was a protest about a corporate tax cut!
Boston Teaparty
In 1773, Britain’s East India Company was sitting on large stocks of tea that it could not sell in England. It was on the verge of bankruptcy. In an effort to save it, the government passed the Tea Act of 1773, which gave the company the right to export its merchandise directly to the colonies without paying any of the regular taxes that were imposed on the colonial merchants, who had traditionally served as the middlemen in such transactions. With these privileges, the company could undersell American merchants and monopolize the colonial tea trade. The act proved inflammatory for several reasons. First, it angered influential colonial merchants, who feared being replaced and bankrupted by a powerful monopoly. The East India Company’s decision to grant franchises to certain American merchants for the sale of their tea created further resentments among those excluded from this lucrative trade. More important, however, the Tea Act revived American passions about the issue of taxation without representation. The law provided no new tax on tea. Lord North assumed that most colonists would welcome the new law because it would reduce the price of tea to consumers by removing the middlemen. But the colonists responded by boycotting tea.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pmhuh…the previous “Boston feed” i was watching is now labeled “Washington DC…. WTF”?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pmCrazy person @61 — if Hollywood created O, then pray tell who were the marketing geniuses who crafted the Connecticut Cowboy — I mean speaking of liars — Fast we need comprehensive health care NOW so that RTDROZEK can be re-institutionalized in the padded cell where it belongs before it hurts itself or worse someone else.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pmHate to be sooooo cold…but by the looks of these attendees they should change the moniker from Tea-Bag Parties to Dirt-Bag Parties.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pmOhh! What? A few hundred people! Big deal? More People show up for Christmas sales!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pmSo if counter-protesters moved in to flatten these tea-baggers, are the tea-baggers ideologically barred from calling the police, since the police force is a socialist policy?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pmRTDROZEK Says: “Everyone, look at what an idiot I am!”
Flagged. Again.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pmDc Tea Party Protesters Agree….road to socialism.
SO?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pmI certainly hope so, ESPECIALLY after 8 years of Bush/Cheney fascism.
Okay, RTDROZEK, now that you’ve calmed down a bit, let’ s take a look at your insightful comments, shall we?
Here’s one:
REMEMBER, THE DEMS WERE IN COMPLETE CONTROL SINCE 2006. REMEMBER, THE DEMS VERBALLY ATTACKED OUR TROOPS FOR OVER 8 YEARS (DURBIN, KERRY, KENNEDY, MURTHA, ETC.)
In fact, RTDROZEK, Republicans were in complete control in 2006. They had the presidency and majorities in both houses of Congress.
So your judgments are obviously not to be trusted when you make foolish mistakes like that. Wy should we bother listening to anything you say? Especially when you preface your comments with crap like “you are the ignorant supporters of the Socialist Left.”?
What is your purpose in being here?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pmRTDROZEK Says:
My good friends, all you can do is throw out stupid comments that is why you are the ignorant supporters of the Socialist Left. To begin, your black president won by 52% which means that 48% of us considered him not qualified but a media poster boy. That is not a mandate. This is showing to be true. Your guy is a liar, but like all disciples of a dictator, as long as you get a “free lunch” you will support El Duce. Hollywood created this image and since you spend all your time going to movies and watching TV, you can not even think, but you can throw out stupid counter productive statements. That is clear reading your comments that “liberalism” is a mental disease.
You are so pathetic for you have allowed these DNC bosses to control your life and all you can do is reach out your hands for money from the real hard working American taxpayers. You are cartoon characters with a lot of hate and hostility against people who are not black.
You actually believe that these crooks in Congress are going to give you a handout always. You are so pathetic that you have no brains left! Go and take another needle.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This one is the poster boy for cognitive dissonance, with delusions of adequacy.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pmCheck out the dipstick in the picture wearing the red “Chairman Maobama” tshirt with his hat on backwards. I mean, wouldn’t you think that the least he can do is suck his gut in for a photo that is getting national press?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:45 pm“To begin, your black president won by 52% which means that 48% of us considered him not qualified but a media poster boy.”
sigh.
So it really is all about President Obama is black.
I should have known.
PRESIDENT Obama won, we won, you guys lost, this is what it feels like to be out of power…get used to it.
I put up with 8 years of Bush, I had to put up with him breaking the world and you guys can’t even handle the first few months of President Obama’s term.
Jesus, grow up.
Like Jon Stewart said “losing is supposed to taste like a s%^t taco”. Enjoy your taco.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pmShit, I didn’t mean to leave the copy of that idiot’s comment in my comment. :(
April 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pmRTDROZEK Says:
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My good friends, all you can do is throw out stupid comments that is why you are the ignorant supporters of the Socialist Left. To begin, your black president won by 52% which means that 48% of us considered him not qualified but a media poster boy. That is not a mandate. This is showing to be true. Your guy is a liar, but like all disciples of a dictator, as long as you get a “free lunch” you will support El Duce. Hollywood created this image and since you spend all your time going to movies and watching TV, you can not even think, but you can throw out stupid counter productive statements. That is clear reading your comments that “liberalism” is a mental disease
April 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pm==========================================================
Go look at history, wingnut. That three percent majority is huge by presidential election standards. What did your boy W win by? Oh he didn’t have the majority of popular votes…Al Gore did. And he beat Kerry by two precincts in Ohio to win but said he had a mandate.
News for you Sparky. The president has the majoriity of Americans on his side. Since you called him black, he is half white. How does a hater like you process that, wingnut. You inbred morons look stupid, accept it. You lost, we won. Learn to live with it.
RTDROWTF?–
“That is not a mandate.”
Weren’t you and your buddies on here in ‘00 and ‘04 claiming W had won mandates in those elections ? Or maybe I”m thinking of Bush and Rove &Co. claiming a mandate, and unlimited political capital. Were you on here then denying their claims?
‘Sup wi dat, RTDROWTF?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pmRTDROZEK says; Go and take another needle.
Now that’s not only stupid, it’s offensive.
You’re offensive.
Go away.
You’re a moron and you’re giving me a headache.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pmAlejandro Says:
RTDROZEK works here.
***
we know that.
the question is,
how much are you paying him?
:|
April 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pmRTDROZEK Says He Blows Goats….
…this is the kind of moronic thinking (if you can call it that) that these ReichWingers produce…
…hard to find someone who is so poorly informed and brainwashed.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pmRTDROZEK=
Retarded
April 15th, 2009 at 12:48 pmTroll
Definitely
Repulsive
Obnoxious
Zany
Extreme
Klansman
50 people? Thats it? In DC? From 4 states?
Youd think the whole washington consensus would be out for tax cuts…..oh…wait, taxes pay for their special interests, nevah mind, my bad.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:48 pmSomeone left my tea-bag in the rain. I don’t think that I can take it, cause it took Fox News to fake it…..
-GSD
April 15th, 2009 at 12:49 pmOMG this RTDROZEK guy just may be the nuttiest wingnut ever!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pmI am not positive, but it looks as though the woman on the left in the 5th picture (with the sign protesting amnesty for illegal aliens) might be a Latina. The only one who doesn’t look white. Empathy-challenged?
And by the way, RTDROZEK, when you say things like “You are cartoon characters with a lot of hate and hostility against people who are not black”, your racism is showing.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pmI’d call them wackadoos, but those of us who believe theat Obama has us on the right path cannot afford to be too glib or casual about what is happening on the right. Hillary Clinton talked about a “vast right wing conspiracy” and we all laughed. Now, the joke is on those of us in the middle or on the left. There are corporate and privileged forces at play here. They are happy to see the US win the race to bottom in terms of wages and opportunities for middle and lower income people, because it puts more money and power into their pockets. Are we going to let them win this battle again? I hope not. Many of the people protesting are being duped into going along with this and don’t know it. Real wages continue to decline for the middle class. Many are forced to work more than one service industry job to survive. Fewer are able to send their children to College. It is time we stood up to the powerful and said no more!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pmbackup Says:
The idea that the protests are really based on racism are a sad distraction.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I guess you didn’t notice the racist bullshit in that comment.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pmWhaaa? Havent you figured out the big money backing these ‘tea-parties’ profit off taxpayers and feed off the prublic trough? Your supporting corporate socialism/welfare
April 15th, 2009 at 12:50 pmsongoterre #50,
This is hilarious isn’t it? Where are all the posters that said tens of thousands of people would be united across the land yesterday?
“Haha Haha” (imagine professer Fate in the Great Race).
And the funnuist part – 15,000 or more people in Orange County, CA. To protest what, lack of botox?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pmbackup Says:
The tea parties are legitimate protests…
____________
No, they’re not… they’re articifial and pre-fab as you can get…
… and thus ChicagoTeaParty.com, registered in August 2008 by Chicago radio producer Zack Christenson, was live within twelve hours.
Huh…imagine that… ChicagoTeaParty.com, registered in August 2008…
Gee… a website named “ChicagoTeaParty.Com”, organized SIX MONTHS EARLIER.
ChicagoTeaParty.com was just one part of a larger network of Republican sleeper-cell-blogs set up over the course of the past few months, all of them tied to a shady rightwing advocacy group coincidentally named the “Sam Adams Alliance,” whose backers have until now been kept hidden from public.
Cached google records that we discovered show that the Sam Adams Alliance took pains to scrub its deep links to the Koch family money as well as the fake-grassroots “tea party” protests going on today.
All of these roads ultimately lead back to a more notorious rightwing advocacy group, FreedomWorks, a powerful PR organization headed by former Republican House Majority leader Dick Armey and funded by Koch money.
http://www.wikio.com/news/Zack+Christenson
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April 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pm“huh…the previous “Boston feed” i was watching is now labeled “Washington DC…. WTF”?”
Maybe they have “lost” the DC and just decided to replace it with Boston since the weather is better and there are more people there?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pmWho knows with FOX, I’m sure that soon all the feeds will be coming from the city with the largest crowd.
The reason we are heading towards socialism is because big money has been buying politicians for decades, big money has lobbied for special interests/legislation, big money lobbies for subsidies., big money has turned the government for by and of the people into a big business.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pmLook at what losers these protesters are and they’re worried about earning more that $250K. I bet many of them are the white welfare recipients with their bogus disability that gets them Social Security benefits. Red states are full of them.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:53 pmYou guys are all intellectual giants! Thank God you don’t share a similar set of beliefs, because then you have been brain washed by the left wing media (maybe even this website). Do you realize how stupid some of things are that you people say.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:53 pmAlejandro says; I KNOW! It’s like they don’t even know that you need permission from the government before you protest the government!
No moron, it’s like they didn’t even consider the consequences of dumping a million teabags in a public place.
It’s not about their little ‘protest’
April 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmOne uninsured kid with a broken arm would cost more than a car with rims, and Ipod and a cell phone.
Or, one family’s insurance coverage costs $1500/month on average, with a huge deductible for that broken arm.
The protestors just don’t know what they are talking about, they are simply looking for an activity for the day and a chance to make the news.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmI respect their right to spell POLITICAL as POLTICAL and look like dumbasses.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmPoltical lol.
Freepers still can’t spell, huh? Guess homeschooling isn’t working out so well after all.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmThe government is supposed to be of by and for the people. Thats what the constiution says. It doesnt say of by and for big business.
The founding fathers knew well the problems of imperial banking systems and thats why they said only government can coin currency.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmAll caps are NOT the way to get your point across…I just scroll straight past these posts…they hurt my eyes and brain and are usually useless, nonsensical, idiotic and completely irrelevant…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmThe people need to feel comfortable that their money is being spent wisely.
Wrong.
Only the MAJORITY of people, and we do.
These tea-baggers wouldn’t know common sense if it crawled up their leg and bit them on the a$$.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:55 pmBriseadh na Firefly #17,
Kind of makes you (me) embarassed to be an american, doens’t it.
Not really. I’ve been abroad a few times. Enough to know the world can tell the difference between intelligent and stupid.
I saw a plaque in the Czech Republic, part of a memorial to a mass-murder in the town square committed by the Soviet Union against a civilian protest. It cautioned that there will always be those who seek to oppress, who seek to enslave the masses, and warned how they will sway the masses into doing their bidding.
Much as I disagree with those on the far-right, I also believe we need to continue to hear their voices – it helps maintain balance.
My greater concern is the call for arms. For that will bring an equal and opposite reaction from the government.
But, more than anything else, I think this whole thing really does point to the failure of our education system. Obviously way too many people have not been taught how to think for themselves.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:55 pmWait a minute- these people have been planning these “events” for how long and no one thought about getting a permit?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:56 pmThat’s really just stupid.
I just watched the video again. My goodness, such a trio of chunkheads.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:56 pmBy the way, the election was 53% Obama to 45% McCain.
The GOP-ers even fabricate the election results to skew them in their favor.
7% is a landslide.
-GSD
April 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmReport from the DC teabagging (happening about 4 blocks from my office): they had at most 300 people there, were prohibited from dumping their tea at their protest site and were prohibited from protesting at the Treasury building (both because they didn’t have the proper permits), and their PA system doesn’t work very well.
An excellent job promoting and organizing, I’d say — this bodes quite well for the cancervative movement going forward…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmI’ll bet that the “Chairman Maobama” T-shirts were made in China!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmReally? Prove this opinion you are spouting.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmBTW- Just WTF is “peaceful militias”?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pmIs that anything like, “screwing for virginity”?
RuPaul2012 Says:
You guys are all intellectual giants! Thank God you don’t share a similar set of beliefs, because then you have been brain washed by the left wing media (maybe even this website). Do you realize how stupid some of things are that you people say.
Not as stupid as your post (which makes absolutely no sense)!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pmWith raisins and nuts
April 15th, 2009 at 12:58 pmI’ll bet their million teabags were all imported tea from China and India!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:59 pmRuPaul12 in da House!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:59 pmTo an Australian, the concept of America as a country ‘heading towards socialism’, is just nuts.
It’s a claim that only the truly uninformed, or pathologically insane, would make.
Or a wingnut.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pmSince these are nothing but “anti-Obama” rallies, do we really need to compare-and-contrast them to the rallies leading up to Obama’s victory?
REALLY???
April 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pmOh my.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pmIt`s nice to see that the ditto heads are still shilling for the transnational corporations and the wealthy,how ignorant are these people?
Coffee anyone?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmOf course, these guys are too stupid to realize that
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmit is Obama’s tax cut for the middle-class that
helped pay for their protest T-shirts… (and I am
sure these folks are middle-class; no rich folks will
come out and get numbingly wet in the cold rain).
RTDROZEK
If you can hear above your yelling –
Bush&Co turned a surplus into a deficit.
Bush&Co went to an illegal war – off the books – to the tune of billions and billions of dollars – no bid contracts – high paid mercenaries – and unaccounted lost billions in cash.
Bush&Co mutually cooperated with corporations who shipped jobs overseas, while establishing off-shore banking to avoid paying the IRS.
You give yourself away when you mention teleprompters — apparently you have not heard our president speak extemporaneously, giving lengthy, cogent answers to complicated questions. You apparently have him confused with Bush who could not speak even with a teleprompter, and without one, he was incoherent.
I think you are advocating setition, a federal crime.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmWe surround them –Glenn Beck
Yeah, if the them is the Delaware National Guard!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmI wonder how many of these morons will be (or are) collecting social security and using medicare one day…
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmI would like to see how the rally in Philadelphia compares to the memorial rally for sportscaster Harry Kalas. Last year when the Phillies won the world series there were MILLIONS of people in the streets of the city. Today… not so much.
Priorities people!!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmRTDROZEK Says
April 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
____________________________________________________
Wow — I haven’t seen this much raving lunacy in quite awhile. Not even from our regular trolls.
“THE USE OF VOTER FRAUD BY ACORN”
ACORN was never even accused of actual voter fraud, let alone guilty of it. There were some instances of voter REGISTRATION fraud (in that some of their registrars submitted obviously fake registrations — most likely to get to their quota), but when ACORN submitted these cards (as they were legally required to do), they marked them as suspicious.
“THE HUGE DEBT TO CHINA”
– Are you really going to go with this one? The “huge debt to China” came courtesy of Bush and Cheney, who needed the money to finance their wars.
“THE USE OF JUDGES TO OVERTHROW THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE”
– It’s not the job of judges to obey the will of the people. It’s the job of judges to obey the U.S. Constitution. And if the will of the people is such that the Constitution be amended, that’s a job for the legislative branch.
“THIS TELEPROMPTER EMPTY SUIT OF A PRESIDENT”
– Getting your talking points from Limbaugh, are you?
“THIS WEBSITE FOUNDER BELIEVES THAT ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THE CONSTITUTION, IS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.”
– Prove that anything even close to this was said.
“IN THE NAME OF GLOBAL CORPORATIONS LIKE VW, CISCO, MICROSOFT, SIEMENS, ETC.,WHO WANT TO OUTSOURCE OUR JOBS”
– Um…it’s not the Democrats that have been outsourcing jobs. It’s the Republicans who are the BFFs of corporations and big business.
“IF IT MEANS PEACEFUL MILITIAS WILL BE FORMED TO COUNTER BALANCE THIS MARXIST ADMINISTRATION, THEN SO BE IT.”
– Do you know what “Marxist” even means? Nothing about our government even comes close. And what is a “peaceful militia”? Is that like a “calm tornado”? And why are you advocating insurrection against the government?
“REMEMBER, THE DEMS WERE IN COMPLETE CONTROL SINCE 2006.”
– A razor-thin margin in one of the three branches of government hardly constitutes “complete control”.
“REMEMBER, THE DEMS VERBALLY ATTACKED OUR TROOPS FOR OVER 8 YEARS”
– Democrats have given more support to the troops themselves than the Republicans have. Democrats fought for better pay, better conditions, better protection gear, and better equipment. AND better care for our injured veterans. Don’t confuse Democrats rightful criticism against the Iraq war as verbal attacks on the troops.
I recommend a trip back to reality, if you can find your way.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pmjoe cantwell #92,
Very pereceptive.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pmSo the fascists come out of the woodwork today. Hope someone’s videotaping – we’ll need to know who goes up against the wall when the real revolution comes.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:05 pmDogfather, thanks for the report about the DC charade. It’s nice to hear what is really (not) happening.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:05 pmMost of the teabaggers are middle class and white — uninformed and vulnerable to demagogues.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:05 pmThey don’t know that Obama is fighting for their rights and benefit – they believe the rich white guys who are lying to them, and laughing at their stupidity and gullibility.
hang ‘em high?
don’t tea baggers generally like them to hand low?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:05 pm(easier to reach)
I would like to see what would happen if Obama rolled back the Ray Gun Ronnie tax cuts that were %74 of very dollar over $3million in salaries,since then the class warfare has begun and these ignorant sheeple are shilling for these ultra wealthy
April 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pmgreedy bigoted hate filled Christo Fascist warmongers.
RP2012 Says
April 15th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
You guys are all intellectual giants! Thank God you don’t share a similar set of beliefs, because then you have been brain washed by the left wing media (maybe even this website). Do you realize how stupid some of things are that you people say.
_________________________________________________________
I admit there are some stupid things that pop up on these posts once in awhile. Your little paragraph is an excellent example.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pmI attended a few anti-war protests in recent years – one of them had more than 100,000 in attendance – barely a blip on the msm.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pmBut don’t tell me you can’t afford it when you’re driving a new car with rims, you’ve got a cell phone, and every electronic gadget under the sun.
You have to respect the Rich Class Propaganda: Hate the Black woman who drives a Cadillac to get its monthly welfare check. Be afraid of poor people breaking into your place…etc.
But never ever question why money keeps flowing up.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pmNice projection RTDROZEK. Corporate fatcats, millionaires and oil companies have been enjoying Republican handouts for the last eight years. I guess you have no problem with that. It’s about time this country woke up to the fact that trickle down economics simply does not work. Unless your goal is to fatten the coffers of the top 10% of course. I’m not personally looking for any hand-outs and I would guess that is the case with most posters here (Right Wingnuts excluded). I would much rather that my tax dollars went toward improving the sorely neglected infastructure of our Nation, fixing a disfunctional health care system and finally starting a serious move towards breaking our oil dependancy. Cowboy diplomacy, catering to the wealthy, keeping war funding off the budget records and ignoring our crumbling infastructure were your boy’s doing with a more than willing Republican majority. Where was your outcry when this was going on? Or do buzz words like “socialism”, “communism” and “fascism” just set you off (doubt you even know the difference between them)?
“…provide for the common defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE…”
Sorry RTDROZEK, but by your standards, this Nation was formed around socialistic ideals and 52% of us voted your disfunctional crew out of office. You may not see that as a mandate, it doesn’t matter. You also conveniantly ignore the overwhelming number of Democrats that caused a sea change in the political make up of our Government this past November. Expect this trend to continue due to the incompetence of elected Republicans and their unwillingness to seek actual solutions to the myriad problems caused by their ineptitude. RTDROZEK, may I suggest that your anger should be directed at you failed representatives and their willingness to prove their lack of governing skills. Your anger at a Government that is taking action to fix this Republican-made mess is laughable. You are in a small minority and it continues to shrink. Most Americans feel that Obama is doing the right thing with the economy, along with practically all economists agreeing that government needs to spend right now to stimulate the economy and early indicators show it is beginning to work. Face it, you lost. Suck it up. Come up with some good ideas and maybe over time Americans will forget just what a clusterf@ck the Republican Party and George W. Bush pulled on our Country. Not likely though.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:08 pmWell both the DC and Boston group Feeds are down from Foxs’ all day coverage. I guess they were too embarassing.
At the Mass statehouse feed the Fox Business clown just quoted it as “hundreds”…
…in boston…
April 15th, 2009 at 1:08 pmRP2012 Says:
You guys are all intellectual giants! … Do you realize how stupid some of things are that you people say.
You really ought to complain to TP about your picture above. That red Maobama shirt streached over your gut is so unflattering, you know?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pmBriseadh na Firefly #113,
Good point, well, maybe it’s just me and most of my friends not beinig american and all – and the fact I’ve had to explain how idiot Bushs policies didn’t reflect on all of us for the past 8 years.
Maybe I still have some sort of risidual Bush disease.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pmIf these fools really want to evoke the spirit of the Boston Tea Party, they should be protesting Wal-Mart, not President Obama.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pmRTDROZEK
April 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pmtipped his hand — he is resentful that a black man is president.
I didn’t want to think that race was a factor in this event, but others were saying so, and I have come to believe that race is indeed a factor.
I was at the 2004 RNC protest in NYC. There were SAFELY 500,000 protestors and about 20 minutes of total media coverage (minus CSPAN which had a static cam mounted outside MSG)
April 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pmSeems to mean this is just a continuation of those nasty McCain/Palin campaign rallies, loaded with more low-information followers than one can count!! Where was all the protesting over the Bush Patriot Act, or the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy. It really shows how disingenuous these Right-wingnuts truly are. They are devoid of meaningful rhetoric, they are so ill-informed they don’t know the history of the country they pretend they love, yes, pretend. They wouldn’t even know tax relief if they see it……I really have to shake my head when I hear the words that come out of these peoples’ mouths and see those ridiculous, nonsensical signs they display. I have to pray for my country that I support!!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pmIf this ironic foolishness being covered by the MSM other than Fox?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pmI’m sorry, I meant Is.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pmI disagree. The small overall numbers make it pretty darn easy to count. :)
April 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pmWell the good news is that so far, it looks like the “crowds” are mostly ordinary people protesting policies (both real and imagined), and not the gun-toting, hate-spewing cries for armed revolution I feared they’d be.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pmUncle Ho Says:
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BTW- Just WTF is “peaceful militias”?
Is that anything like, “screwing for virginity”?
—————
Ask Bristol Palin. Doesn’t work, but, boy does it feel good.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pmYeah, CNN/CNBC mentioned it earlier on their news shows and Matthews/Olbermann/Maddow each had a segment on the stupidity last night.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pmIt’s amazing to me – seeing people pubicly displaying their utter stupidity like it’s a badge of honor.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:16 pmI think I see a Black Guy behind Cavuto on one of the feeds!!!!
What do I win???
April 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pmZooey,
I told Petey yesterday that these protesters true motives were about a black man being in the white house. He said he didn’t want to hear any more of that bull because it had been disproven.
Think so?
These people, no matter where they’re prostesting, are all a bunch of racist crackers.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pm@#159…. awww its just a tan dude in the middle of exceptionally pasties.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pmI feel so bad for the little boy with the sign saying taxes stole his trip to Disney. What taxes, other than cigarettes have increased recently? His parents just lied to him about the whole thing.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pmIt is pretty obvious!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pmwe should not be too quick to give the right wing the benefit of the doubt, they have proved their real agenda over and over again.
Isn’t that video just precious. These kids are still young enough and naive enough to think that they have a “Capitalist’s chance in hell” of ever making more than 200,000 a year in their lives. Wonder if they still believe in the Easter Bunny.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pmAnd after factoring out all the Acorn agent provocateurs, the crowd estimates are in the high dozens.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pmRe the pictures by Chris in the update: One of the signs says “Higher taxes stole my trip to Disney.”
What a maroon.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pmDear friends
Unfortunately, you are so out of tune..Marxists unequivocally identify themselves with oppressed people who take up positions on the extreme left in social movements. Marxists believe in freedom to exploit others!..
You twist realities to suit your need for mental balance. If your realized the truth and had a mind to process the truth about this government and that it is race and gender-based, your head with ignite with flames.
You truly are the un-educated masses who goose step to the DNC’s beat. If anyone disagrees with your view of the world, you attack and try to make them into a mental patient. This is what the Nazis did. You seem to know the script of the National Socialist and the Communist.
Have a nice day all of you cartoon thinkers.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pmI am visiting in Naples Florida where there were a total of 3 sign-carrying guys, one of whom was praising the Navy Seals @ 11:00 a.m. Fox will have a hard time making this a success in this community. Of course it is 90 degrees out–might have something to do with it.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pmI guess the sheeple shilling for the wealthy keep forgetting about the Shrubs tax cuts and not to mention Clintons tax cuts for the same wealthy people and then lo and behold the common blue collar working person gets one and the FCUKING ignorant people are protesting taxes, where were they on the Ray Gun Ronnies , Clinton and Bush tax cuts.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pmBy the pictures online, looks like about 50 people max at Sacramento’s tea party at the California State Capitol too. And they have the added attraction of Glen Beck!
Whoo hoo. Such a sucksessful event.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pmDid anyone happen to mention how ironic it is that these are the people who support the very type of corporate tax cuts which sparked the original Boston Tea Party? If this were 1773, these are the people who would be Tories, not revolutionaries. They wouldn’t be the ones dumping tea into the harbor. They would be the ones ratting on their neighbors for dumping tea into the harbor.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pmTeabaggers: Fatheaded idiots who don’t want to pay their share of taxes – but still want a strong military, health care, entitlement programs, infrastructure, etc. etc. etc.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pmOnce again our unintelligent fellows on the right are at it again. Perhaps they skipped that history class, you know the one, about “communist china:. Im sure if Mao was alive be would be pissed to be called a socialist.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pmWhat does that mean? Is that supposed to be English?
Does this mean you’re leaving? Oh, please…
April 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmWhen this whole teabag thing came up I began researching its inspiration, the famous (or infamous) Boston Tea Party. The more I researched the more interesting and more complicated the story became. I had to change my assumptions several times with each path of inquiry.
Anyway, I wrote what became an essay comparing the present Tea Party with the that of the past. It’s about 9-10 screens long and as scholarly as I could make it in the space of a few hours. It’s a researched perspective, but I’m not claiming to be an empirical history.
So as TPers are a smart and informed lot check it out if you care and I’d appreciate any criticisms or suggestions for further pertinent research.
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/lawrence-odonnell-steeps-tea-baggers-on-countdown/#comments
END of blogwhoring, back to the program now in progress :D
April 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmMaybe his parents smoke a whole lot, in which case he has more problems than missing his trip to Disneyland.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmHi, Z.
;)
April 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pmA bunch of Limbaugh acolytes aka Dittoheads who believe that GOP Boss Limbaugh speaks for them and their particular income levels. They conveniently overlook the fact that Boss Limbaugh makes more in a year than at least 50 of them will ever make in a lifetime. But then, we’re talking Dittoheads here – they only listen to their Boss.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pmThe comments are too funny! Thanks for the pics TP! I knew this was going to be a “SOCIALIST” event with more people calling Obama a socialist. I can’t wait to tune in at 2 pm for Charlotte’s teabagging event.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pmRTDROZEK Spews:
(Whatever factually wrong talking points it gets from Oxybreath)
I haven’t seen such continuously wrong arguments since JK THE BOLD discovered caps lock and the bold format!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pmRich H Says:
Zooey,
I told Petey yesterday that these protesters true motives were about a black man being in the white house. He said he didn’t want to hear any more of that bull because it had been disproven.
Think so?
These people, no matter where they’re prostesting, are all a bunch of racist crackers.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
No, I don’t think it has been disproven. Very few people are saying it explicitly, but especially for people focusing on Obama’s citizenship and religion, I think racism is at the heart of the problem.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pmPoor boy, you must have been attacked A LOT!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pmWhat about “teh gays”?
Isn’t that one of their main “poltical” wedge-issues?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pmLoved this succinct sum-up:
The similarities between 1773 and 2009 begin and end with an ignorant emotional mob being exploited by select business interests pretending a common grievance and a common cause.
Other than that, you need a space between was and on in the second paragraph!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pmHi, Juan! :)
April 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pmOh RTDROZEK, don’t be such a whiner.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:32 pmTell us again how OUR BLACK president only got 52% of the vote.
raynman Says:
I wonder how Faux News is going to place the camera’s to make 50 people look like several thousand??
They are already doing it. All their shots are of reporters on the ground in the middle of a bunch of people. None from far away that would really show the number of people in the crowd. They are also lowering expectations by complaining that “lack of permits and the weather” may affect the number of people turning out.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:33 pmRTDROZEK says;
‘your head with (will?) ignite with flames’
….easy there fella, your psychosis is showing.
Are the voices in your head on fire too?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pmThey had feeds with crowd shots up earlier. It was funny. They’re all down now.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pmWow, RTDROZEK — again with the name-calling; that’s so unlike a pinheaded right-wing know-nothing…
And there you go mixing your economic theories with your social policies and ending up with zero cred yet again — explain, if you can, how one can be both a Nazi and a communist at the same time?
Yeah, I didn’t think so. Idiot.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pmOk, so the Muslim thing didn’t get the job done for them, so they are trying their hands at this socialism crap. However, 7 out of ten Americans believe socialism is better than capitalism. Once again, the republicans are in the minority.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pmHow do you know he wasn’t? Maybe that’s as far in as it’ll go.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:38 pmThe sad thing about this “rally” is that there aren’t any cars for these people to drool over. Oh wait, it’s not that kind of rally. Never mind.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pmoh well… i should probably get some work done today. Have fun laughing at the “morans”
April 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pmRTDROZEK Says:
Dear friends
Right there is your big mistake…you have no friends…
….and your mother hates you also.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:40 pmThis has nothing to do with taxes. Most of the signs are anti-Obama. Bunch of white racists.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:40 pmThe tough part about being both a Nazi and a communist is that you always want to beat yourself up, lock yourself in jail, or kill yourself.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:40 pmGizmoD10E Says:
Teabaggers: Fatheaded idiots who don’t want to pay their share of taxes – but still want a strong military, health care, entitlement programs, infrastructure, etc. etc. etc.”
No that’s what the progressive party wants. And the progressive’s idea of “paying your fair share” means punishing success (the more you make the higher the tax rate).
The Conservative, Libertarian or Constitutionalist (not the neo-con) wants civil liberties restored that were lost under Bush and wants the Federal Government to shrink back to it’s constitutional limitations. When that happens most the other problems like the welfare state, State’s rights, oppressive taxation and immigration will fall into place.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:43 pmSORE LOSERMEN,UNITE!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:43 pmYOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT THE CHAINS OF A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION!
TODAY WE WILL SPREAD TREASON AND SEDITION ACROSS THE LAND!
IT’S OK, BECAUSE SINCE THE PRESIDENT IS A DEMOCRAT NOW WE CAN ATTACK AND WEAKEN HIM IN A TIME OF WAR!
HELPING TERRORISTS? WHO CARES?
WEAKENING HIS POSITION IN THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, AID AND COMFORT TO THE ENEMY?
SO WHAT?
TODAY THE PEOPLE WILL TREMBLE AT THE SOUND OF OUR TEABAGS AS WE SQUISH OUR WAY ACROSS THE LAND!
FOR PARTY! FOR….PARTY!
Is it my jaded perspective, or is our friend RP really one of the stupider trolls going these days?
Maybe it’s just a judgment call, since they’re all in the same ballpark.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pmDear RTDROZEK,
Seems the right is the one obsessed with all of these isms and yet they have no idea what they really mean. As for un-educated, lets take a quick look at history. The Boston Tea Party was a protest against the east india trading company(aka corporate america) because of the large tax cuts given to them by the british. Fast forward to 2009, corporate lobbyists have turned the table and convinced a bunch of dulusional, un-educated racists that the american people is under siege by taxes. And of course the solution is to lower all corporate taxes and to stop taking money from the rich.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI am all for supporting the right of people to protest, so protest away. Because the only thing that these protesters are really accomplishing is speeding up the demise of the gop.
The village idiot is loose, and like all dregs of evolution, eventually they die off.
RP2012 Says:
The Conservative, Libertarian or Constitutionalist (not the neo-con) wants civil liberties restored that were lost under Bush and wants the Federal Government to shrink back to it’s constitutional limitations. When that happens most the other problems like the welfare state, State’s rights, oppressive taxation and immigration will fall into place.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Uh huh, and where were YOU when all that shit was going down?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pmRP2012, why did you vote for Bush twice?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pmRTDROZEK Spouted:
You truly are the un-educated masses…
Which is really quite funny because it was preceded by this masterpiece:
…that it is race and gender-based, your head with ignite with flames.
So how’s life in the super intelligent, high IQ fast lane, Braniac?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Is it my jaded perspective, or is our friend RP really one of the stupider trolls going these days?
Maybe it’s just a judgment call, since they’re all in the same ballpark.”
If you could refute my arguments like an intelligent person with a grasp on their beliefs you might have some ground. You childishly call names and can’t defend your statist position because it is flawed and does not work.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pm=D
Kind of reminds me of that documentary about the fed. As the crew goes around asking people on the street what the federal reserve is, the answers people give are all something like: “uhhh that federal place where they uhhh reserve the money.”
Should I be surprised that an event attended by likely fox viewers is unorganized?
One young man said that it wasn’t “fair” that “if you make over $200,000 a year, you get a higher tax.”
How so, I make 30k a year and live COMFORTABLY without complaining about the 30% bite uncle sam takes. If those are the kinds of complaints you have when you make that much money, I think I would rather stay poor.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:49 pmshoeless Chilopoda Says:
RP2012, why did you vote for Bush twice?”
Didn’t vote for bush once actually. Nice try but can you refute my argument? Probably not.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pmRTDROZEK. I thought you were leaving? Aren’t you late for tea?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pmLeading up to the war in Iraq we had hundreds of thousands of people protesting across the country on a monthly basis WITHOUT the help of a national “news” organization advertising 24/7. This so-called grassroots movement is a farce.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:51 pmOh Oh Oh Oh!
I think Braniac here just challenged ralph to a debate.
Where’s my popcorn, because this is going to get good!
Dammit, work calls.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:52 pmI’ll have to recap later.
SKdeAnt
That was quick! Thanks man! (I was just reading some Greenwald at Salon whilst you were reading my piece.)
The Teabaggers inspired me! And, oh irony, researching their inspiration doesn’t help them, it helped me!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:52 pmI still can’t understand the tea parties. Our elected officials aren’t raising taxes on us. Sure, they’ve started a whole slew of new government programs that will probably fail like social security. But hey, I’m still young. I’m going to concentrate on trying to make enough money that when inflation skyrockets I’ll be okay. Hopefully I’ll end up in that group over 250,000 a year who have to pay more taxes.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pmBut I will have more money in the end, so it’s still a gain. I’ll just have to work a little harder to make my gain once I get to that point. I do feel sorry for those at or close to retirement. With the inflation we’re going to see, they will probably end up working until they die. That’s not fair, they’ve worked hard for their retirement. We are going to have to increase social security benefits for them. But, government does have the option of just printing that extra money, so it’ll be okay. My point with all this rambling, is that it’s a big cycle when the government overspends. Republicans did it for the war, and democrats are continuing it for the programs they see fit. As Americans, we should all stand up against spending money that we don’t have. Whether it be by raising taxes, or by cutting government spending, the government needs to live within OUR means.
We’ve already been through this. Remember a couple of days ago you showed that you don’t even understand the Libertarian platform. You are a Republican liar who is too ashamed to admit that he voted for Bush twice. The internet is filthy with people like you.
For instance, since the question of race came up, do you support repeal of the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pmHmmmm, that’s funny. I don’t remember the day Social Security failed. Maybe that was the day my newspaper wasn’t delivered.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:00 pmThat’s just the problem; you don’t make arguments. For instance, in response to Gizmo’s comment:
You said
This is not an argument. It’s a simple tantrum.
I would dearly love to see a true conservative show up here with real arguments, honestly presented, arguments that are based in a reality we can both agree on.
backup tries, but he’s got some really bad habits that have turned most of us off on him.
But most right-wingers are like you — just full of venom and misinformation, yet thinking you’re making sense. That’s why we make fun of you.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:00 pmgimmegimme Says:
I still can’t understand the tea parties. Our elected officials aren’t raising taxes on us. Sure, they’ve started a whole slew of new government programs that will probably fail like social security. But hey, I’m still young. I’m going to concentrate on trying to make enough money that when inflation skyrockets I’ll be okay. Hopefully I’ll end up in that group over 250,000 a year who have to pay more taxes…..”
First off when you start a whole slew of new government programs, you have to raise taxes or go into debt. We are in a world of debt (12 trillion) and don’t be one of those who believes this magical lie that only the rich ill feel the effects. The cigarette tax is an example. When you make 250,000 and the government is taking about 40-45% of that you might feel differently.
As Americans, we should all stand up against spending money that we don’t have. Whether it be by raising taxes, or by cutting government spending, the government needs to live within OUR means.”
Amen, this is what these tea parties are actually about. not anti-obama.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:01 pm50 people?
:|
There were more later, right? Because 50 is, well,….embarrassing.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:02 pmThere were more later, and yes, it was STILL embarassing.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pmThere were more later, and yes, it was STILL embarassing.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pmAside from Bush’s trashing of the 4th Amendment, what are these Constitutional limitations of the federal government, which you want restored? Do you think the 1964 Civil Rights Act should be repealed?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pmWell, we would but we’re too busy realizing how stupid all of the things you people say.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:04 pmshoeless Chilopoda Says:
Hmmmm, that’s funny. I don’t remember the day Social Security failed. Maybe that was the day my newspaper wasn’t delivered.
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So I suppose you agree that we will have to raise social security with-holdings (raising taxes), or give it a government bailout (raising taxes or printing money). Either way, the program isn’t sustainable in its existing form.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pmRalph are you denying the fact that a progressive believes in higher taxation on the “wealthy” and businesses to pay for health care, more government welfare and entitlement programs? Wow you do not understand what you believe.
And if you want to debate, lets hear it.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pmNot anti-Obama? Right, because if they were, people would carry signs mocking Obama and posting drivel like this:
Oh, wait. They did.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:06 pmgimmegimme Says:
Either way, the program isn’t sustainable in its existing form.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
You’re right. We should remove the income cap, and then SS will be fine.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:06 pmWhy not just remove/raise the cap? As it is right now, I pay the same amount of SS taxes as Bill Gates.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:06 pmOr the wealthy who make over $250k a year in unearned income could stop taking benefits from the system they clearly don’t need.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:10 pmExactly, Doodlebug.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:10 pmYea, so did Jesus.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:12 pmRP2012, I agree. Right now we are going into debt with China, correct? Maybe some Americans need to realize that the American dream doesn’t mean that the government can guarantee you get everything you want. BTW, what does China get if we fail to repay these debts.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pmshoeless Chilopoda Says:
RP2012 Says:
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The Conservative, Libertarian or Constitutionalist (not the neo-con) wants civil liberties restored that were lost under Bush and wants the Federal Government to shrink back to it’s constitutional limitations.
Aside from Bush’s trashing of the 4th Amendment, what are these Constitutional limitations of the federal government, which you want restored? Do you think the 1964 Civil Rights Act should be repealed?”
Wow I’ve handled this question here one to many times. No we should not repeal the civil rights act. It was not perfect but necessary because of the infringement on U.S citizens natural rights. And here is my constitutional amendment for that. Notice section 2.
AMENDMENT XV
Passed by Congress February 26, 1869. Ratified February 3, 1870.
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude–
Section 2.
The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
now where the Fed. Gov. is trying or has already over stepped its boundaries.
Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment X (read this one carefully)
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
RP2012 Says:
Ralph are you denying the fact that a progressive believes in higher taxation on the “wealthy” and businesses to pay for health care, more government welfare and entitlement programs?
Yea, so did Jesus.”
That’s not true. A common argument by a misinformed lib who has never opened a bible.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:16 pmYeah, same thing with overseas wars. But I don’t remember any anti-debt protests being mounted by right-wing astroturf groups in ‘03-’08. Do you?
Take a wild guess at who accumulated most of that debt…
Do you know how the tax code works? Because you make it sound like someone earning $250,000 pays $125,000 in taxes. Is that your understanding of the process?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:16 pmDo you know how the tax code works? Because you make it sound like someone earning $250,000 pays $125,000 in taxes. Is that your understanding of the process?
No one knows how the tax code works, it’s like 75 thousand pages long. And yes when you factor in all of the taxes including State taxes (before deductions) most people are at about that number. Pretty astonishing isn’t it.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:18 pmSheep.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:20 pmOr the wealthy who make over $250k a year in unearned income could stop taking benefits from the system they clearly don’t need.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:21 pm———————————————
So you admit that you feel the wealthy don’t deserve their income when you call it “unearned.” Also, if they pay their share, why don’t they deserve the benefits too. Do you feel that all Americans should earn the same amount, or just that no one should be allowed to get “too rich.”
Yeah, same thing with overseas wars. But I don’t remember any anti-debt protests being mounted by right-wing astroturf groups in ‘03-’08. Do you?”
Yea because a lot of people on the right believed that the Iraq war was necessary. By the way it is mere chump change (600 billion) to what is now being spent.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:21 pmThe tea parties would have more credibility if the participants were not so ignorant about the merits of their cause. It would be like people protesting “illegal aliens” by holding up signs that read “Martians go home!”.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:22 pmDid you know that the 1773 Boston Tea Party was a response to a tax cut on a business? You fools are using a historical event which stood precisely for the very thing you are protesting.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pmIf you ask a dozen different people attending the “tea parties” why they plan to attend, you will get a dozen different reasons and none will have any merit based on reality.
Obama has not raised taxes, he has cut them for the vast majority of Americans.
The Bush Administration created the national deficit problem, and now we MUST invest federal dollars to re-right the ship.
And it was the LACK of government regulation that caused the banking system to crash.
Complaining about “socialism”? Does that mean you plan to refuse Medicare when you become eligible? Will you encourage your elderly loved ones to do likewise? Cause there isn’t anything more “socialistic” at the federal level than taxpayer-subsidized health care for senior citizens.
Or are you one of those extreme right-wing fringe whack-jobs that still think Obama is a Muslim…or a foreigner….or an alien?
Quick, run to Rush. He’ll give you a new batch of scripted talking points.
And to the handful of folks that mistakenly believed that they would be participating in a genuine grass roots political event, well, there is no Easter bunny either. It is true that you have every right to protest, air your concerns, and express your anger about the economy. But at the same time, the reality is that you are being reduced to a propaganda tool for the bozos on FOX News, FreedomWorks, and elsewhere that wish to exploit your concerns for their own self-serving, disingenuous purposes. Best to take a hot shower when you get home.
Of course, these tea parties can help improve the economy if everyone had purchased stock in Lipton on Tuesday and then sells it on Thursday…
April 15th, 2009 at 2:24 pmgimmegimme Says:
So you admit that you feel the wealthy don’t deserve their income when you call it “unearned.”
April 15th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Jeebus. “Unearned income” is income one receives although one has not worked for it — as in trust fund, interest, etc.
Get it?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:24 pmP.S. sorry my last question didn’t have a question mark. Let the grammar attacks begin.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pmNot only am I not a ‘lib’, I am confident that I’ve forgotten more about the Bible than you ever knew.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pmdukesman2000 Says:
…. 7 out of ten Americans believe socialism is better than capitalism…
If a followup question was asked if they knew what socialism or capitalism was I would wager 2/3 or more would not know. I doubt if they knew the definitions they would so eagerly agree to one over the other. I included the definitions below if anyone was wondering.
The United States is neither a true capitalistic nor a true socialistic country. Even the European countries are not socialist by definition. They just appear that way because they have higher income taxes. The United States has a combination of socialist tendencies (defense, health care, education, social security, roads) and capitalist tendencies (incentives to produce, ability to own shares of companies, own property, invest your money). Without a capitalistic system creating goods and services that the government can tax we cannot provide for the socialistic programs. True socialism may work on a micro level (Amish farmers come to mind – but even they sell goods for money), but it does not work on a macro level. Looking at the definitions you can also see why true capitalism would have problems.
I, for one, would not want to live in a true socialist or capitalist soceity. However, I am very comfortable mixing the two. The key is finding the balance between the two.
socialism–noun (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/socialism)
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
capitalism–noun (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/capitalism)
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
In such a system, individuals and firms have the right to own and use wealth to earn income and to sell and purchase labor for wages with little or no government control. The function of regulating the economy is then achieved mainly through the operation of market forces where prices and profit dictate where and how resources are used and allocated.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:25 pmAs stated by you, I disagree with your characterization. It’s absurd and simplistic and is not grounded in a reality we both can agree on. Frankly, I haven’t seen any indication from you that there is such a reality that you and I can both agree on.
Your characterization of progressive taxation as “punishing success” is a familiar moralistic reading of economic data that should be viewed scientifically, with an eye toward cause and effect. Conservatives don’t like to do that if their moralistic sensibilities are offended.
But here’s my take: I believe, like many others, that the ability to accumulate great wealth is one of the strengths of our society, but those who are fortunate enough to achieve that have an obligation to support the systems and programs that made it possible. I also believe that strong social programs benefit everybody if properly administered, because the society is wounded when people drop out of contention for achievement, whether through unfortunate circumstances or (the right-wing default, moralistic explanation) their own flawed choices.
I also think that the greater the divide between rich and poor, the less healthy our economy.
I believe these things not because I think they’re morally right, but because my education and experience tells me that they work better for the greatest number of Americans.
Conservative policies have been shown to increase the gap between rich and poor. Progressive policies have been shown to close that gap and produce healthier broad-based economies as a result.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:27 pmI never saw that you handled it. In fact you told me that you refused to answer the question. But now that you have, you show that you are not a Libertarian at all. This proves my point that you are either a liar, or you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:28 pmSorry I’m not familiar with the term. I’ve never had any “unearned income.” But still, why don’t they deserve the benefits they contributed to.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:29 pmWow, this seems pretty enlightened.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:30 pmgimmegimme Says:
Sorry I’m not familiar with the term. I’ve never had any “unearned income.” But still, why don’t they deserve the benefits they contributed to.
As long as they contributed at the same level as everyone else — hence the desire to remove the cap on social security earnings.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pmlabman57 Says:
Obama has not raised taxes, he has cut them for the vast majority of Americans.
The Bush Administration created the national deficit problem, and now we MUST invest federal dollars to re-right the ship.
And it was the LACK of government regulation that caused the banking system to crash.”
Wow I wish you knew anything.
1st) the tax credit Obama is giving to the middle class is counted as income on your next years taxes. Bet you didn’t know that did you.
2nd) Freddie and Fannie which are essentially government run companies are the root of the financial mess due to congress pushing for loose and risky minortity loans. Then you have all of these subprime loans being sold as derivatives to companies like AIG and so on and so forth. And guess what so many of the people defaulted on their loans that everything crashed. That’s the 101 version.
3rd) yes Bush spent like a drunken sailor and sky rocketed our deficit……so we need to spend more? That is flawed logic.
I didn’t learn that from Rush. I actually read books and am majoring in (Austrian) economics.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pmRP2012 Says:
Yea because a lot of people on the right believed that the Iraq war was necessary. By the way it is mere chump change (600 billion) to what is now being spent.
I did not support the war and if Americans had any sense of the history of region in general, Iraq and Iran and the cultures forced together by the British they would not have either. Do we have to rehash this? Saddam was contained and posed absolutely no threat. But that’s our failing education system for you.
I would not call thousands of soldiers dead, more thousands maimed “chump change”. The real bill is closer to $1 trillion (http://nationalpriorities.org/local_cost_of_war_april_2009) by the way.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pmWhat does Jesus or the Bible have to do with deficit spending or our budget priorities?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pmrich folks should pay more in taxes. A 200 dollar parking ticket ain’t gonna break their greedy asses.
There are thousands of reasons why the rich should pay more in taxes and should STFU.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:35 pmOnce again, RP2012 has no argument. Tolle et lege:
Matthew 17:24
Matthew 22:15
Mark 12:13
Luke 20:20
and here’s the real kicker:
Romans 13:1 – 2
So, the bible says to pay your taxes, and that taxes are established by governments that are instituted by God.
RP2012 is as ignorant about the bible as he is about the Constitution.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:35 pmSure it is. And you’d know that had you actually read the bible once or twice, instead of just “thumped” it.
For example, you’d know that when the Pharisee’s came to Jesus, and accused him of being against paying taxes to Caesar, he responded endorsing the payment of taxes;
“Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s” – Matt 22:21
But like most neoconservative self professed Christians you didn’t know that. Because you don’t read the bible. You just “thump” it.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:35 pm#231. RP2012 Says:
Wow, let me get this straight. You claim to be a Libertarian because, you arent’ allowed to vote (that explains why Libertarians never get elected), someone took your gun away, and your state lost it’s rights. You are really stupid (I’m sure I’m not the first person to notice).
April 15th, 2009 at 2:36 pmAnd a lot of people across the political spectrum believe that stimulus spending is necessary now.
The point is, that never before in this nation’s history had a president been so irresponsible as to cut taxes in wartime. Taxes always go up in wartime.
To pay for the costs of WW2, the highest marginal tax rate in this country was 91% all through the 1950s. And the economy grew quite comfortably.
Your point was about accumulating debt. Whether the war was necessary or not is irrelevant. Wars have to be paid for. Bush didn’t bother just borrowed more money from China and japan, yet none of the teabaggers protesting today said a peep about that debt.
“Chump change”? Seriously?
Do you understand that war spending is not invested — it just gets blown up on the battlefield? But investments in infrastructure and new technology can and will pay dividends down the road.
By the way, the total current accounting of war costs since 2001, when Bush first cut taxes (meaning debt spending) is over $800 billion.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:37 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
But here’s my take: I believe, like many others, that the ability to accumulate great wealth is one of the strengths of our society, but those who are fortunate enough to achieve that have an obligation to support the systems and programs that made it possible.
And they have an obligation to support the people who made it possible. Unless they inherited their wealth, the wealthy got that way off of the backs of our labor.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:37 pmHaven’t we spent considerably more on stimulus and bailout at the end of the Bush administration and the beginning of the Obama administration?
Is the problem the amount of deficit spending or the budget priorities?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pmBehold: the right has harnessed the power of ignorance. This urban myth is among my favorite, since it assumes you don’t know how the ban on redlining works, you don’t know that FM & FM weren’t allowed to issue subprime mortgages, and the you don’t know the Bush administration reversed Clinton-era mortgage programs in 2001.
In this way, they can blame the disaster of unfettered speculation on government interference.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:38 pmRP2012 Says:
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Wow I’ve handled this question here one to many times. No we should not repeal the civil rights act.
I never saw that you handled it. In fact you told me that you refused to answer the question. But now that you have, you show that you are not a Libertarian at all. This proves my point that you are either a liar, or you don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
You are a fool. When a U.S citizens God given rights are being infringed upon by another citizen and the State’s allow it the federal Government has every right to pass laws to protect those rights. The Constitution is a Federal Document. Like I said the laws weren’t perfect and even if all Libertarians wouldn’t agree with me, that doesn’t make me any less apart of the party. We don’t ostracize people who disagree we embrace it, unlike this website who will attack a democrat with any differing views from the movement.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:39 pmRP2012 Says:
Yea because a lot of people on the right believed that the Iraq war was necessary. By the way it is mere chump change (600 billion) to what is now being spent.
If the cost of Bush’s wars was mere chump change, then how did he manage to double our national debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion in 8 years without investing a dime in our country? And how did he manage to take a surplus to a record breaking deficit?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pmI guess I should just give my take on government altogether. Every so often, I get to vote to elect an official. Maybe they follow through with their promises, maybe they don’t. With the last presidential election, I really wasn’t impressed with any of the leading candidates. After that, I can be angry when a law gets passed that I don’t agree with. But what good will that really do? So, my best bet is to vote for the person I think will do the best job, and then concentrate on succeeding personally. With the changes going on right now, I feel I am going to have to work harder to find the success I am looking for.
Sure, I guess I could get more involved with politics and try to change the things I don’t like, but that would just take away from time spent doing the things I love or finding ways to make a better living. So, with that, I resign from posting messages on TP. I’m going to go fishing and continue to further my success. I’ll keep voting and hoping that I still have the opportunities to do so. I’m OUT!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pmShould the federal government ensure the right’s of gays to marry?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pmMike71654 Says:
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Did you notice…all a bunch of old, white, pot bellied redneck morons…
Most of these idiots don’t even know what socialism means.
Mike, that is a very racist comment. What do you have against whites?
You are a racist of the worst kind.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:41 pmRP2012 Says:
We don’t ostracize people who disagree we embrace it, unlike this website who will attack a democrat with any differing views from the movement.
No, you lemmings don’t ostracize anyone. You just threaten or kick out those other lemmings who don’t agree with your movement. Democrats sometimes disagree with what other Democrats think and we talk about those disagreements here. The only people we “attack” are useless trolls who have nothing to say other than right wing talking points they can never back up with facts.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:42 pmThat’s actually not what the Constitution says. Go read Article Six again, and you’ll know why I was laughing when you cited the 10th amendment.
Once again, RP2012’s politics are a function of his ignorance.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm“White” is not a race.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pmRuPaul2012 Spews:
2nd) Freddie and Fannie which are essentially government run companies are the root of the financial mess due to congress pushing for loose and risky minortity loans.
Cheese and crackers, could your bigotry be exposed any more clearer?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:46 pmAnd your lack of education?
I agree. My point is that you claim to be a Libertarian, yet you know very little about libertarian ideology. This is from the Libertarian Party platform. It calls for the repeal of civil rights law.
Discrimination imposed by the government has brought disruption in normal relationships of people, set neighbor against neighbor, created gross injustices, and diminished human potential. Anti-discrimination enforced by the government is the reverse side of the coin, and will for the same reasons create the same problems. Consequently, we oppose any government attempts to regulate private discrimination, including discrimination in employment, housing, and privately owned so-called public accommodations. The right to trade includes the right not to trade — for any reasons whatsoever.
Libertarian Party Platform
So, you see, you are the ignorant fool. Go back to being a Republican. At least you understand them.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pmTimmeh43!
How the hell are you bud?
Hey, weren’t you supposed to be driving a bus full of Democrats and Republicans to a TeaBagged social event?
That’s what you so proudly claimed last night.
Dude, you gotta stop making up $hit to support your argument!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:50 pmSo, RP2012 is a
1) libertarian who doesn’t know anything about libertarianism
2) Christian who doesn’t know anything about the bible
3) American who doesn’t know anything about the Constitution
Is this some kind of joke?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:51 pmA libertarian is a repug high on LSD.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:56 pmMost Ron Paul supporters are jokes. Ron Paul himself left the Libertarian Party and became a Republican just so he could get Libertarians to vote for him.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:00 pmDidn’t the people willingly trade their labor for a paycheck?
April 15th, 2009 at 3:01 pmralph the wonder locust — Do you understand that war spending is not invested — it just gets blown up on the battlefield? But investments in infrastructure and new technology can and will pay dividends down the road.
By the way, the total current accounting of war costs since 2001, when Bush first cut taxes (meaning debt spending) is over $800 billion.
This is way, way over the repugs’ head.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:07 pmbackup Says:
Unless they inherited their wealth, the wealthy got that way off of the backs of our labor.
Didn’t the people willingly trade their labor for a paycheck?
And that means what? That the rich didn’t get that way off of the fruits of our labor. For a while there bcup, you were starting to sound like something other than a right wing shill. Now you are back to your old form. Too bad so sad for you.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:11 pmWTF? I thought all the trolls were marching for Reichwing supremacy. I guess they are just a bunch of blowhards who are too lazy, and cowardly, to get out there themselves.
No surprise there.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:12 pmgimmegimme Says:
So, with that, I resign from posting messages on TP.
Bye, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:13 pmat 3:13 Neil Cavuto was talking to some producer on the raw feed about attendance numbers. They don’t have officeial numbers but both eyeballed it at “5000″… If they say at “starting at 5000″ they’re lying.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:15 pmBilbo. It’s recognition that the people that worked, did so voluntarily. And the wealthy employers provided the means for those people to work.
If the wealthy benefitted from the fruits of labor, didn’t the labor benefit from the wealthy employers?
If it weren’t for the wealthy employers, who would provide the jobs for the labor?
April 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pm3:19 Cavuto just lied. He said it was “EASILY DOUBLE OR TRIPLE 5000″… on the live feed ten minutes earlier they were saying “about 5000″
April 15th, 2009 at 3:19 pmI found them – looks like three… Right here in S.C. My friend Catherine Fleming Bruce on Facebook has pictures of our statehouse being flooded with these idiots. Look for yourself. “National Tax Day Rally” is the photo gallery.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pmWhat is the quality of the socialism they describe?
April 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pmSo, let me get this straight… Think Progress is using the tea parties to divide Americans. TP portrays the tea parties as if only Right Wingers are attending the tea parties and the few hand selected pictures they posted on these blogs somehow discredits the majority of tea party attendies as well as the reason and meaning of the protests.
On top of this, I see that the TP-left-wing-radical-drones are lapping it up as if it is the gospel truth that only Right Wingers are attending these tea parties.
I just walked through one of the tea parties and it was very clearly comprised of Americans from all walks of life. I saw hispanics, african americans, women, teenagers, seniors and some of those “dreaded” … white men that you all hate so much. I saw a middle aged hispanic woman holding up a sign that said “Obama supporter for lower taxes and less waste”
TP writers and bloggers are being divisive and derisive. You are no better than the radical right wingers that you bash.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pmTimmeh, we have no reason to believe you. Your perspective and your judgment has proven to be seriously flawed.
Besides, it seems to me that the folks calling their own elected government and anyone on the Left “socialists” are the ones being divisive.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm“chump change”… are you kidding me?
My friend is DEAD because of this BS war and not to mention thousands of others. I’d hardly call that chump change.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:32 pm@tim43
That’s funny, I walked through the Philadelphia protest and it was 100% angry white doofus demographic. Know what else? I took photos, so I can back up my experience with evidence. You should try that, troll.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm——————————————————————————–
Tim43 Says:
So, let me get this straight… Think Progress is using the tea parties to divide Americans. TP portrays the tea parties as if only Right Wingers are attending the tea parties and the few hand selected pictures they posted on these blogs somehow discredits the majority of tea party attendies as well as the reason and meaning of the protests.
Actually the tea parties are meant to divide americans. You can’t prove any of your assertions. Big surprise, eh?
April 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pmWrong, as usual. For someone who didn’t learn it from Rush, you sure have his talking points down. First, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae went private in 1968. Second, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae actually hold less than 20% of the toxic assets, which hardly makes them the root of the problem. Third, your assertion that this problem was caused by risky loans to minorities is racist Republican propaganda, and says quite a lot about your racism. The root of the problem is that the Republicans, led by Sen. Phil Gramm gutted the regulations which kept this sort of disaster from happening. You should stick to Austrian economics, because you don’t know jack sh!t about U.S. economics.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pmTim43 Says:
April 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm——————————————————————————–
I just walked through one of the tea parties and it was very clearly comprised of Americans from all walks of life. I saw pasty old white men, pasty old white women, middle aged white men, middle aged white women, Republican white men, Republican white women, rich white men, rich white women, trailer park white trash, neo-Nazis, Michigan militia, Idaho skinheads, Klu Klux Klan. It was quite the melting pot.
LMAO
April 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pmSo let me get this straight.
You’re suggesting that there’s anything other than conservatives at these conservative sponsored Tea Parties?
:|
You think liberals go to Ted Nugent concerts?
April 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pmHe ain’t no Libertarian.
Libertarians don’t believe in any sort of foreign occupation or nation building.
But he was shilling for the Iraq war.
Libertarian my ass.
:|
More like Lie-bertarian.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pmThe protesters interviewed at the tea parties have all of the maturity and intellectual eloquence of a 10-year old who, when told to clean his room before he can play, blurts out “This sucks!”.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pmTim43 says:
just walked through one of the tea parties and it was very clearly comprised of Americans from all walks of life. I saw hispanics, african americans, women, teenagers, seniors and some of those “dreaded” … white men that you all hate so much. I saw a middle aged hispanic woman holding up a sign that said “Obama supporter for lower taxes and less waste”
Sure you did buddy.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:57 pmObama was cleary a visionary when he said these people when times get tought get bitter and turn to god and gus. I’d say he was right on the money. These people are a perfect example of why we need to have our children get a good education at an early age.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:30 pmWOW !!!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:02 pmAll You Liberals spouting Hate about the Tea Parties is Laughable !!!
So, what is the real problem ???
You loved to bash Bush but really show Your hate when someone says anything against Obama !!!
Well, TOUGH, GET USED TO IT !!!!
Progressive Republican Says:
Tim43 says:
just walked through one of the tea parties and it was very clearly comprised of Americans from all walks of life. I saw hispanics, african americans, women, teenagers, seniors and some of those “dreaded” … white men that you all hate so much. I saw a middle aged hispanic woman holding up a sign that said “Obama supporter for lower taxes and less waste”
Sure you did buddy.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pm————————————————————–
you just proved DHS report on right-wing extremist.
Hi PHILD!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pmWow! The “Chairman Maobama” t-shirt is cool!
I need to get one and wear it to work, hahahahahaha…
April 15th, 2009 at 9:38 pmNothing says “I want to have sex with men” like a Chairman Maobama t-shirt.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:52 pmRP2012 Said:
…the financial mess due to congress pushing for loose and risky minortity loans.
The meltdown was the logical conclusion of the Bush Govt’s total deregulation of risky lending practices. Phil Gramm, McCain’s economic adviser, aggressively pushed for, and succeeded in, the deregulation of Credit default swaps, more aptly titled ‘gambling’.
Then you have all of these subprime loans being sold as derivatives to companies like AIG and so on and so forth.
Exactly, subprime loans and derivatives were deregulated by the Republicans.
I didn’t learn that from Rush. I actually read books and am majoring in (Austrian) economics.
You obviously need to spend less time on the internet, and more time on your studies.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:13 amgimmegimme Says:
So, with that, I resign from posting messages on TP.
Why do the righties always feel the need to announce their ‘resignations’ from TP? Why not just up and go away already?
April 16th, 2009 at 1:40 amSo, let me get this straight… Think Progress is using the tea parties to divide Americans.
no, Faux News and Dick Arney are using the Tea parties to divide Americans
April 16th, 2009 at 1:43 am.
Dear TROLLS of AMERICA United,
Who owns the cuckoo’s nest, now?
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April 16th, 2009 at 2:28 amTim Vaculik Says:
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Wow! The “Chairman Maobama” t-shirt is cool!
I need to get one and wear it to work, hahahahahaha…
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If you can ever find anyone stupid enough to hire you to sweep their floors. hahahahahaha..
April 16th, 2009 at 3:28 amTim Vaculik Says:
Wow! The “Chairman Maobama” t-shirt is cool!
I need to get one and wear it to work, hahahahahaha…
I kinda want one too, actually.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:46 amLibertyLover Says:
I’d be curious if these people knew what socialism really was…
I am sure they would think about twice the next time a police officer comes to their rescue or a fireman saves them from a burning building….All social services by the way….WAIT damnit socialism is IN this country!!!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:24 amElBruce Says:
Tim Vaculik Says:
Wow! The “Chairman Maobama” t-shirt is cool!
I need to get one and wear it to work, hahahahahaha…
I kinda want one too, actually.
Me too. I would wear it on those off days when I am not wearing my George Bush t-shirt with the cute little square mustache and goose stepping posture
April 16th, 2009 at 11:26 amThe protesters look like working class people who have been brainwashed by the likes of Limp Balls(aka mr.droopy teabags)and other “conservative” talking heads who magically make those who are making a living or just getting by seem as they are “rich” and are magically victims of too much taxes, victims of immigrants, victims of being white, etc…
Do these people really think that they are the ones who will be effected by the Obama tax plan?????
They do not look like they make over $250,000.
They are either seriously deluded or just plain stupid.
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April 19th, 2009 at 4:34 pmAre you super intelligent “progressives” aware that the deaths of approximately 90 million people were attributed to Marxism in the Twentieth Century? Did you also know that Obama is a loyal admirer of Marxism? Just go check out his audio book “The Audacity of Hope”. He’s says in his own words, in his OWN VOICE that he “sought out” his Marxist professors in college. But that doesn’t mean he’s a Marxist right? Naawwww.
Not to mention the fact that his good friend and domestic terrorist buddy Bill Ayers is a card carrying communist/Marxist. Yeah, just in case the main stream media didn’t mention it to ya, Obama had his coming out party for the kick off of his political career at Bill Ayers home.
You people’s selective blindness is very creepy.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:42 pm