Comments on: DeLay defends Gov. Perry, explains how Texas could secede from the Union. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:51:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: LPJ http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5618671 LPJ Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:34:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5618671 This is likely too late to be noticed, but I have to speak as a proud liberal from Texas ... Most of the comments here are well intended but silly. Texas won't secede, obviously. No Constitutional right exists, either by treaty or other arrangement. The abject hate for this state is pretty embarrassing, though. For those of you who rejoice that liberals might leave the state to embrace a community sympathetic to their political opinions, please grow a spine. Some people prefer to try to change the political climate where they live, even if it is challenging. Tom DeLay was not from my district, but I would no more vote for him than I would for Robert Byrd. Please don't conform to monolithic ideas about political parties or states. Texas is still the state of Willie Nelson, Kinky Friedman, and Ann Richards. Wouldn't any of you enjoy claiming them as political brethren? And that's not even denting the cultural legacy ... Grow up and stop regurgitating hackneyed ideas about Mexico reclaiming our state. We fought a revolution to claim independence. Respect that struggle, and don't forget the result. This is likely too late to be noticed, but I have to speak as a proud liberal from Texas …

Most of the comments here are well intended but silly. Texas won’t secede, obviously. No Constitutional right exists, either by treaty or other arrangement. The abject hate for this state is pretty embarrassing, though. For those of you who rejoice that liberals might leave the state to embrace a community sympathetic to their political opinions, please grow a spine. Some people prefer to try to change the political climate where they live, even if it is challenging. Tom DeLay was not from my district, but I would no more vote for him than I would for Robert Byrd. Please don’t conform to monolithic ideas about political parties or states.

Texas is still the state of Willie Nelson, Kinky Friedman, and Ann Richards. Wouldn’t any of you enjoy claiming them as political brethren? And that’s not even denting the cultural legacy …

Grow up and stop regurgitating hackneyed ideas about Mexico reclaiming our state. We fought a revolution to claim independence. Respect that struggle, and don’t forget the result.

]]> By: tailhook77 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5618641 tailhook77 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:27:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5618641 <strong>To all you ComSympRadLibParlorPinkos~ The 1st thing that The Republic of Tejas should do is to cut off all oil, natural gas to the Un-United Socialist States of Amerika. Best to happen in the dead of Winter when all you Socialist Greenies would freeze your keasters off when you get 36" of that white powdery global warming in January/February. Ask Comrade Obama & pseudo Marine Murtha for some coal out of Pensylvannia.......... Oh, I forgot, they're going to destroy the coal industry too. Isn't it strange that TX has no income tax but is running a budget surplus. Goodnight Chet, KSMF </strong> To all you ComSympRadLibParlorPinkos~

The 1st thing that The Republic of Tejas should do is to cut off all oil, natural gas to the Un-United Socialist States of Amerika.

Best to happen in the dead of Winter when all you Socialist Greenies would freeze your keasters off when you get 36″ of that white powdery global warming in January/February.

Ask Comrade Obama & pseudo Marine Murtha for some coal out of Pensylvannia………. Oh, I forgot, they’re going to destroy the coal industry too.

Isn’t it strange that TX has no income tax but is running a budget surplus.

Goodnight Chet,

KSMF

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]]> By: nygenxer http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5603911 nygenxer Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:36:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5603911 Tim43: "Texas has very good infrastructure...the Oil and Gas infrastructure links natural gas (LNG) supplies and oil from the gulf to neighboring states. Oh, and the Freeways are also excellent." The rights to the oil and gas have been sold to the international oil conglomerates. As for the pipelines themselves: any attempt to take control of those pipelines would be considered an act of war. BTW, that infrastructure you mentioned was paid for by the other 49 states. (Did you know that most of Houston's office space was built with S&L money. Remember that banking scandal? The one with the other moron, Neil Bush? We're still paying that off.) You continue, "They also are home to a very stout high tech industry...And let us not forget about NASA’s Johnson Space Center headquartered in" Yes, the high tech industry that is part of the military industrial complex of the United States of America. All those companies and all of those employees would be forced to leave Texas. No more Bell Helicopter or any U.S. military bases. Of course, NASA would be gone, as would the US Mint. How would you print your own money, and what would you back up the currency with? "Texas is also home to more corporate head quarters than all other states." Yes, and I think they would have to relocate back to the United States. "Corporations and working Americans have been fleeing the high tax liberal blue states like California and New York to Texas for years and the exodus continues today." So what you're saying is that all the people fleeing California and New York don't actually want to live in Texas? It's just that but they can't afford to live in California or New York? I agree with you there 100%. Texas would not make it on its own and it is foolish to suggest otherwise. Tim43:

“Texas has very good infrastructure…the Oil and Gas infrastructure links natural gas (LNG) supplies and oil from the gulf to neighboring states. Oh, and the Freeways are also excellent.”

The rights to the oil and gas have been sold to the international oil conglomerates. As for the pipelines themselves: any attempt to take control of those pipelines would be considered an act of war. BTW, that infrastructure you mentioned was paid for by the other 49 states. (Did you know that most of Houston’s office space was built with S&L money. Remember that banking scandal? The one with the other moron, Neil Bush? We’re still paying that off.)

You continue, “They also are home to a very stout high tech industry…And let us not forget about NASA’s Johnson Space Center headquartered in”

Yes, the high tech industry that is part of the military industrial complex of the United States of America. All those companies and all of those employees would be forced to leave Texas. No more Bell Helicopter or any U.S. military bases. Of course, NASA would be gone, as would the US Mint. How would you print your own money, and what would you back up the currency with?

“Texas is also home to more corporate head quarters than all other states.”

Yes, and I think they would have to relocate back to the United States.

“Corporations and working Americans have been fleeing the high tax liberal blue states like California and New York to Texas for years and the exodus continues today.”

So what you’re saying is that all the people fleeing California and New York don’t actually want to live in Texas? It’s just that but they can’t afford to live in California or New York? I agree with you there 100%.

Texas would not make it on its own and it is foolish to suggest otherwise.

]]> By: jedzep http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5603879 jedzep Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:41:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5603879 Don't mess with Texass! Don’t mess with Texass!

]]> By: Tim43 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5603775 Tim43 Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:36:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5603775 Job grown in Texas between 2007-2008 was 60% of the entire nation. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2008/07/29/even-the-job-growth-is-big-in-texas.aspx Texas has very good infrastructure. The power generation grid is superior to most other states. http://www.slate.com/id/2087133/ Texas produces more power than it uses and sells the remaining to other states. The Oil and Gas infrastructure links natural gas (LNG) supplies and oil from the gulf to neighboring states. http://www.txoga.org/ Oh, and the Freeways are also excellent. Texas produces some of the best health care professionals in the world at University of Texas and Baylor and they would be happy to be spared from working in obama's low pay controlled universal health care system. They also are home to a very stout high tech industry. And let us not forget about NASA's Johnson Space Center headquartered in Texas is also home to more corporate head quarters than all other states. Because of this, Texas would assume all corporate taxes now being taken by the federal government. Corporations and working Americans have been fleeing the high tax liberal blue states like California and New York to Texas for years and the exodus continues today. Anyone who says that Texas could not make it if they seceded is ignorant of the facts. Texas would do just fine if they seceded. The US would take a major hit and obama would be forced to scale way back on his socialist state plans. Moreover, Texas democrats are far different than the left wing liberal brand of democrat that you see in san fransisco, vermont or massachusets. As the radical-left-wing of the democrat party continues to push through the socialist agenda you will see Texas blue-dog democrats distance themselves in droves. Job grown in Texas between 2007-2008 was 60% of the entire nation. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpposted/archive/2008/07/29/even-the-job-growth-is-big-in-texas.aspx

Texas has very good infrastructure. The power generation grid is superior to most other states. http://www.slate.com/id/2087133/ Texas produces more power than it uses and sells the remaining to other states. The Oil and Gas infrastructure links natural gas (LNG) supplies and oil from the gulf to neighboring states. http://www.txoga.org/ Oh, and the Freeways are also excellent.

Texas produces some of the best health care professionals in the world at University of Texas and Baylor and they would be happy to be spared from working in obama’s low pay controlled universal health care system. They also are home to a very stout high tech industry. And let us not forget about NASA’s Johnson Space Center headquartered in

Texas is also home to more corporate head quarters than all other states. Because of this, Texas would assume all corporate taxes now being taken by the federal government. Corporations and working Americans have been fleeing the high tax liberal blue states like California and New York to Texas for years and the exodus continues today.

Anyone who says that Texas could not make it if they seceded is ignorant of the facts. Texas would do just fine if they seceded. The US would take a major hit and obama would be forced to scale way back on his socialist state plans.

Moreover, Texas democrats are far different than the left wing liberal brand of democrat that you see in san fransisco, vermont or massachusets. As the radical-left-wing of the democrat party continues to push through the socialist agenda you will see Texas blue-dog democrats distance themselves in droves.

]]> By: ElBruce http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5603744 ElBruce Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:05:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5603744 <em>MarcyJ Says: So please stop with the Texas bashing. We’re not all idiots, just like all people in Alaska are not all idiots. We just outnumbered.</em> Don't worry, as soon as they make secession official, we'll send reinforcements to liberate you from your captors. Speaking of which... <em>TexasTim Says: I’m ditching all my US flags in favor of Texas flags. Rick Perry deserves the 1st Texas Presidency for his suggestion.</em> I'll see you on the battlefield, traitor. MarcyJ Says:

So please stop with the Texas bashing. We’re not all idiots, just like all people in Alaska are not all idiots. We just outnumbered.

Don’t worry, as soon as they make secession official, we’ll send reinforcements to liberate you from your captors.

Speaking of which…

TexasTim Says:

I’m ditching all my US flags in favor of Texas flags. Rick Perry deserves the 1st Texas Presidency for his suggestion.

I’ll see you on the battlefield, traitor.

]]> By: TexasTim http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5603238 TexasTim Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:35:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5603238 I'm ditching all my US flags in favor of Texas flags. Rick Perry deserves the 1st Texas Presidency for his suggestion. We should put guards at the borders with granola-sniffing dogs and kick the lefties out though. You know how it is with strays; they get one meal at your house and you can never get rid of them. GOD BLESS TEXAS! I’m ditching all my US flags in favor of Texas flags. Rick Perry deserves the 1st Texas Presidency for his suggestion. We should put guards at the borders with granola-sniffing dogs and kick the lefties out though. You know how it is with strays; they get one meal at your house and you can never get rid of them.

GOD BLESS TEXAS!

]]> By: woodguy http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5603127 woodguy Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:41:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5603127 RealityCheck Says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bonat Says: How come Progressive Republican can’t be a snot nose moderate Republican? A so called moderate Republican is nothing but a Liberal hiding in a group of Conservatives. ---------------- Kinda hard to hide in such a small crowd, isn't it? Heh. RealityCheck Says:
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bonat Says:

How come Progressive Republican can’t be a snot nose moderate Republican?

A so called moderate Republican is nothing but a Liberal hiding in a group of Conservatives.

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Kinda hard to hide in such a small crowd, isn’t it?

Heh.

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602995 texaslady Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:35:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602995 Termite delay had to leave to avoid prosecution and isn't he now residing in North Carolina or Georgia ? Why some of these losers are even asked to comment is beyond me. Termite delay had to leave to avoid prosecution and isn’t he now residing in North Carolina or Georgia ? Why some of these losers are even asked to comment is beyond me.

]]> By: Mikala http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602964 Mikala Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:12:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602964 Why isn't Delay in Jail where he belongs? Why isn’t Delay in Jail where he belongs?

]]> By: someonewhothinks http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602920 someonewhothinks Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:52:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602920 I can see it all now - duh furrer (Texas cons can't spell 'der fuhrer') Rick Perry could invite Sean Hannity to be his propaganda minister, Rush Limbaugh could give his Texas dittoheads brown shirts and AK-47's, and Tome Delay could run Perry's air force (and give himself a nice pretty uniform). Texas wants to secede? Anyone who agrees with these idiots deserves what they get. I can see it all now – duh furrer (Texas cons can’t spell ‘der fuhrer’) Rick Perry could invite Sean Hannity to be his propaganda minister, Rush Limbaugh could give his Texas dittoheads brown shirts and AK-47’s, and Tome Delay could run Perry’s air force (and give himself a nice pretty uniform).

Texas wants to secede? Anyone who agrees with these idiots deserves what they get.

]]> By: gregdane http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602903 gregdane Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:41:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602903 Remember that old conservative (right-wing nutjob) screed: "America, Love it or Leave it!" Remember that old conservative (right-wing nutjob) screed:
“America, Love it or Leave it!”

]]> By: keninks http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602869 keninks Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:26:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602869 It is quite obvious the majority of Hardball viewers are mindless pre-recorded Liberals. Your may be right some part of the new Texas would want to join back up to the Union. They could not imagine no longer receiving all the “FREE” money for the Federal Government to pay for all the Government programs, by the way there isn’t any such thing as free money. As for the rest of the new states they would have no problem paying for necessary programs, there would be a lot of people moving to this new, Free Country and there would be an exodus of people that can, but choose not to work leaving as fast as their Government paid for transportation, could find a way to pass yet a new TAX, right after spending the even more Free money on setting up yet another program. I am quite sure you will all welcome them with open arms. Good luck supporting them. It is quite obvious the majority of Hardball viewers are mindless pre-recorded Liberals.
Your may be right some part of the new Texas would want to join back up to the Union. They could not imagine no longer receiving all the “FREE” money for the Federal Government to pay for all the Government programs, by the way there isn’t any such thing as free money. As for the rest of the new states they would have no problem paying for necessary programs, there would be a lot of people moving to this new, Free Country and there would be an exodus of people that can, but choose not to work leaving as fast as their Government paid for transportation, could find a way to pass yet a new TAX, right after spending the even more Free money on setting up yet another program. I am quite sure you will all welcome them with open arms. Good luck supporting them.

]]> By: Uncle Fester Lurks http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602791 Uncle Fester Lurks Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:58:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602791 Three months out of power and these whiners are now wanting to break up the United States Of America. The anti-American Taliban is alive and well in our country! Three months out of power and these whiners are now wanting to break up the United States Of America. The anti-American Taliban
is alive and well in our country!

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602783 MapleStreet Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:54:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602783 Why would we want a person disgraced by their lack of ethics to be our interpreter of the law ? Why would we want a person disgraced by their lack of ethics to be our interpreter of the law ?

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602777 texaslady Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:53:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602777 To No 155 - Living here for 30 years I have to beg to differ with you...we are one of the few states that do not need Stimulus money. Our state now has a surplus after bush depleted us while as pretend Governor. We have jobs galore, with tons of out of state licensed cars coming in. Houston is well known for excellent medical capabilities. We have many excellent Universities. And San Antonio has top of line rehab facilities for wounded Vets, built by public donations. Do I approve of the redneck racists conservatives that are running our state, Hell NO ! But, times will change as they die off. Seems like alot of tea bag parties were held all over this nation. To No 155 – Living here for 30 years I have to beg to differ with you…we are one of the few states that do not need Stimulus money.
Our state now has a surplus after bush depleted us while as pretend Governor.
We have jobs galore, with tons of out of state licensed cars coming in.
Houston is well known for excellent medical capabilities. We have many excellent Universities.
And San Antonio has top of line rehab facilities for wounded Vets, built by public donations.

Do I approve of the redneck racists conservatives that are running our state, Hell NO ! But, times will change as they die off. Seems like alot of tea bag parties were held all over this nation.

]]> By: texaslady http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/comment-page-4/#comment-5602758 texaslady Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:44:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/delay-secede/#comment-5602758 Last time I looked termit delay didn't even live in Texas after they threw him out for dirty politics, so what is with this "we" business. Last time I looked termit delay didn’t even live in Texas after they threw him out for dirty politics, so what is with this “we” business.

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