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	<title>Comments on: NYT Report On &#8216;Significant&#8217; Surveillance Abuses Confirms Progressive Criticisms Of 2008 FISA Compromise</title>
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		<title>By: guzide</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-2/#comment-5603961</link>
		<dc:creator>guzide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Pat obviously senile dementia has set in. Time to see the nice young men that will need to take care of you soon.<a href="http://www.magicplast.com" rel="nofollow">burun estetigi</a> <a href="http://www.hemenarac.com" rel="nofollow">rent a car</a> <a href="http://www.kardeslerrentacar.com" rel="nofollow">arac kiralama</a><br />
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		<title>By: Eugene atrax robustus Debs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugene atrax robustus Debs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chapalody Says: 

So then the fourth amendment is un-American to you? STOP your blubbering cowardice. Those who would give up freedom for temporary security deserve neither freedom nor security. That is you. You dont DESERVE freedom because you are too much of a coward to risk being free. So chain yourself in your basement and leave MY freedoms alone. I LIKE the fourth amendment. I LIKE being free. You cant WAIT for your chains because you are gutless</description>
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<p>So then the fourth amendment is un-American to you? STOP your blubbering cowardice. Those who would give up freedom for temporary security deserve neither freedom nor security. That is you. You dont DESERVE freedom because you are too much of a coward to risk being free. So chain yourself in your basement and leave MY freedoms alone. I LIKE the fourth amendment. I LIKE being free. You cant WAIT for your chains because you are gutless<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5603615', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dropdeadcharisma</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5602405</link>
		<dc:creator>dropdeadcharisma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Obama needs to keep Bush&#039;s surveillance laws in effect to spy on the repukies and that&#039;s why they&#039;re suddenly up in arms about it.  Is it possible that he would like to prosecute Bushco for war crimes but he can&#039;t b/c he needs to protect his own life?  Lets face it Bush may be out of power but he still maintains power...lots of it.  And these punks think nothing of taking the lives of anyone who gets in their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Obama needs to keep Bush&#8217;s surveillance laws in effect to spy on the repukies and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re suddenly up in arms about it.  Is it possible that he would like to prosecute Bushco for war crimes but he can&#8217;t b/c he needs to protect his own life?  Lets face it Bush may be out of power but he still maintains power&#8230;lots of it.  And these punks think nothing of taking the lives of anyone who gets in their way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5602405', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chapalody</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5602390</link>
		<dc:creator>Chapalody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who don&#039;t understand what Surveillance means, then you will never understand why an enemy can not be identified until the target has been monitored. It&#039;s a lawyers trick to slip pass being monitored. You have to tell us what your looking for before you monitor a call. How ridiculous is that. It&#039;s about time these part time American&#039;s especially in the ACLU became full time American&#039;s and took an interest in this country instead of trying to protect those who wants to do harm to American&#039;s. Is that too difficult to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who don&#8217;t understand what Surveillance means, then you will never understand why an enemy can not be identified until the target has been monitored. It&#8217;s a lawyers trick to slip pass being monitored. You have to tell us what your looking for before you monitor a call. How ridiculous is that. It&#8217;s about time these part time American&#8217;s especially in the ACLU became full time American&#8217;s and took an interest in this country instead of trying to protect those who wants to do harm to American&#8217;s. Is that too difficult to understand.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5602390', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times did the Executive Department violate laws, tell us about it, then later make another confession?  It&#039;s a long, sad, sorry pattern.

I realize Obama has been office three whole months and most of this belongs to Bush, but it&#039;s a sad refrain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times did the Executive Department violate laws, tell us about it, then later make another confession?  It&#8217;s a long, sad, sorry pattern.</p>
<p>I realize Obama has been office three whole months and most of this belongs to Bush, but it&#8217;s a sad refrain.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5602379', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AlexLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few cosmetic differences, such as the changes in Cuban travel and lifting the Mexico City policy, aside, I don&#039;t see much real difference between Obama and Bush. BHO campaigned like FDR and is governing like GWB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few cosmetic differences, such as the changes in Cuban travel and lifting the Mexico City policy, aside, I don&#8217;t see much real difference between Obama and Bush. BHO campaigned like FDR and is governing like GWB.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5602266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Hoodathunktick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoodathunktick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), who opposed the 2008 FISA Amendment Act, issued a statement today calling on Congress to “get to work fixing these laws that have eroded the privacy and civil liberties of law-abiding citizens.” Feingold also called on the Obama administration to “declassify certain aspects of how these authorities have been used so that the American people can better understand their scope and impact.”&lt;/em&gt;

He don&#039;t speak up often but when he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI), who opposed the 2008 FISA Amendment Act, issued a statement today calling on Congress to “get to work fixing these laws that have eroded the privacy and civil liberties of law-abiding citizens.” Feingold also called on the Obama administration to “declassify certain aspects of how these authorities have been used so that the American people can better understand their scope and impact.”</em></p>
<p>He don&#8217;t speak up often but when he does.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5602065', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the NY Times article:

And in one previously undisclosed episode, the N.S.A. tried to wiretap a member of Congress without a warrant....

The agency believed that the congressman, whose identity could not be determined, was in contact — as part of a Congressional delegation to the Middle East in 2005 or 2006 — with an extremist who had possible terrorist ties and was already under surveillance, the official said. The agency THEN  sought to EAVESDROP on the congressman’s conversations, the official said.(the tar baby school of legal jurisprudence)

The official said the plan was ultimately blocked because of CONCERNS from some intelligence officials about using the N.S.A., WITHOUT COURT OVERSIGHT, to spy on a member of Congress.

So...who needs the FISA court, when we have Concerned intelligence officials looking out for our Liberties???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the NY Times article:</p>
<p>And in one previously undisclosed episode, the N.S.A. tried to wiretap a member of Congress without a warrant&#8230;.</p>
<p>The agency believed that the congressman, whose identity could not be determined, was in contact — as part of a Congressional delegation to the Middle East in 2005 or 2006 — with an extremist who had possible terrorist ties and was already under surveillance, the official said. The agency THEN  sought to EAVESDROP on the congressman’s conversations, the official said.(the tar baby school of legal jurisprudence)</p>
<p>The official said the plan was ultimately blocked because of CONCERNS from some intelligence officials about using the N.S.A., WITHOUT COURT OVERSIGHT, to spy on a member of Congress.</p>
<p>So&#8230;who needs the FISA court, when we have Concerned intelligence officials looking out for our Liberties???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601870', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tenisci:
That whole Dutch Harbor thing doesn&#039;t add up. I won&#039;t give a penny till old Borgen explains that weirdness...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tenisci:<br />
That whole Dutch Harbor thing doesn&#8217;t add up. I won&#8217;t give a penny till old Borgen explains that weirdness&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601811', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Read Thomas Malthus.

Or Daniel Quinn: “Ishmael”&lt;/em&gt;

I think Quinn owes more to &lt;a href=&quot;http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11072/Shepard/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul Shepard&lt;/a&gt; than to Malthus, but they&#039;re complementary sources, imho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Read Thomas Malthus.</p>
<p>Or Daniel Quinn: “Ishmael”</em></p>
<p>I think Quinn owes more to <a href="http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11072/Shepard/" rel="nofollow">Paul Shepard</a> than to Malthus, but they&#8217;re complementary sources, imho&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601810', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Obama&#039;s back sliding on his promises and his acceptance and expansion of this kind of thing is why I will not vote for him again. Our country will always have enemies. And if we don&#039;t have our freedoms at home, then we might as well live somewhere else.

Orin Hatch is a Republican. Even when he says this or that is bad, he never fails to vote with his party. The only reason this is even up for talk, is some senators and members of congress wonder what NSA might have heard them say. It is their own privacy not ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Obama&#8217;s back sliding on his promises and his acceptance and expansion of this kind of thing is why I will not vote for him again. Our country will always have enemies. And if we don&#8217;t have our freedoms at home, then we might as well live somewhere else.</p>
<p>Orin Hatch is a Republican. Even when he says this or that is bad, he never fails to vote with his party. The only reason this is even up for talk, is some senators and members of congress wonder what NSA might have heard them say. It is their own privacy not ours.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601742', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hanshiro the antlion</title>
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		<dc:creator>hanshiro the antlion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;37.tokin librul Says:

There’s one big problem with ‘ending world hunger.’

As soon as you’d get close, the population would boom out of control again. In fact, it would happen well before the problem had been dealt with.

So it could never happen, without stringent regulations governing human reproduction: e.g., PRC regs on the number of kids…

Why?

Read Thomas Malthus.&lt;/em&gt;

Or Daniel Quinn:&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(novel)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;Ishmael&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>37.tokin librul Says:</p>
<p>There’s one big problem with ‘ending world hunger.’</p>
<p>As soon as you’d get close, the population would boom out of control again. In fact, it would happen well before the problem had been dealt with.</p>
<p>So it could never happen, without stringent regulations governing human reproduction: e.g., PRC regs on the number of kids…</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Read Thomas Malthus.</em></p>
<p>Or Daniel Quinn:<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(novel)" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;Ishmael&#8221;</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601741', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you wish you had a President who had a REAL spine, who stood for principle, even if only once in a while?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/002931.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like Evo Morales&lt;/a&gt;, of Bolivia, say?&lt;blockquote&gt;Just for a moment, imagine what it would be like to have a president who actually possessed (positive) core, non-negotiable convictions, and for whom going on a hunger strike was well within the range of sacrifices they were willing to make to fight for those convictions.  While you&#039;re at it, imagine what it would be like to have a populace that demanded this level of conviction in exchange for their support—and refused to settle for less.  And finally, imagine how far short of those goals we could fall and still be light years beyond where we are today.

It&#039;s no surprise that we&#039;re constantly told the most we have a right to expect is tiny incremental steps toward positive change, but what&#039;s tragic is that so many people have not only accepted that but have internalized it as though it&#039;s some sort of immutable law of nature.  They never seem to notice that those same restrictions don&#039;t apply to negative changes—like (say) massive restructuring of the entire system of world trade, radical financial deregulation, or the repurposing of a &quot;defensive&quot; military organization as a weapon of U.S. foreign policy, to name just a few.  They end up excusing and rationalizing the most craven compromises (and even outright betrayals) with carefully-inculcated arguments about pragmatism and political feasibility and the need to lower their expectations.

As a great philosopher once said: you get what you settle for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you wish you had a President who had a REAL spine, who stood for principle, even if only once in a while?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/002931.html" rel="nofollow">Like Evo Morales</a>, of Bolivia, say?<br />
<blockquote>Just for a moment, imagine what it would be like to have a president who actually possessed (positive) core, non-negotiable convictions, and for whom going on a hunger strike was well within the range of sacrifices they were willing to make to fight for those convictions.  While you&#8217;re at it, imagine what it would be like to have a populace that demanded this level of conviction in exchange for their support—and refused to settle for less.  And finally, imagine how far short of those goals we could fall and still be light years beyond where we are today.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no surprise that we&#8217;re constantly told the most we have a right to expect is tiny incremental steps toward positive change, but what&#8217;s tragic is that so many people have not only accepted that but have internalized it as though it&#8217;s some sort of immutable law of nature.  They never seem to notice that those same restrictions don&#8217;t apply to negative changes—like (say) massive restructuring of the entire system of world trade, radical financial deregulation, or the repurposing of a &#8220;defensive&#8221; military organization as a weapon of U.S. foreign policy, to name just a few.  They end up excusing and rationalizing the most craven compromises (and even outright betrayals) with carefully-inculcated arguments about pragmatism and political feasibility and the need to lower their expectations.</p>
<p>As a great philosopher once said: you get what you settle for.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s one big problem with &#039;ending world hunger.&#039;

As soon as you&#039;d get close, the population would boom out of control again. In fact, it would happen well before the problem had been dealt with.

So it could never happen, without stringent regulations governing human reproduction: e.g., PRC regs on the number of kids...

Why?

Read &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thomas Malthus&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s one big problem with &#8216;ending world hunger.&#8217;</p>
<p>As soon as you&#8217;d get close, the population would boom out of control again. In fact, it would happen well before the problem had been dealt with.</p>
<p>So it could never happen, without stringent regulations governing human reproduction: e.g., PRC regs on the number of kids&#8230;</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Read <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus" rel="nofollow">Thomas Malthus</a>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601714', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5601709</link>
		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NSA has been spying on Murkins, to my certain knowledge, since the late &#039;60s.

No it&#039;s not in their charter. In fact, its explicitly forbidden.

But it&#039;s not illegal when the President does it...Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NSA has been spying on Murkins, to my certain knowledge, since the late &#8217;60s.</p>
<p>No it&#8217;s not in their charter. In fact, its explicitly forbidden.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not illegal when the President does it&#8230;Right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601709', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tenisci</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5601692</link>
		<dc:creator>Tenisci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this new political environment provides a great opportunity to address crucial issues that have been forgotten. The U.S. should be doing way more to address the Millennium Development Goals. The plan to end world hunger has been getting seriously ignored. 

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.

$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.

(source: borgenproject.org.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this new political environment provides a great opportunity to address crucial issues that have been forgotten. The U.S. should be doing way more to address the Millennium Development Goals. The plan to end world hunger has been getting seriously ignored. </p>
<p>$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.</p>
<p>$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.</p>
<p>(source: borgenproject.org.)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601692', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Realness</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5601684</link>
		<dc:creator>Realness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I completely agree with you about the Presiden&#039;t foreign policy so far (um,  but not so much about the 9/11 stuff)  It&#039;s completely disappointing.  Afghanistan is a mess.  But I will say that it depends on how you look at it.  There&#039;s the obvious contrast to Bush, which was awful at every turn.  There&#039;s movements of diplomacy we haven&#039;t seen in some years, there&#039;s of course the domestic policy decisions that look promising.  I would say that from an incrementalist perspective, things are improving.  Maybe not in every area, but in a lot. and it&#039;s been months, and there&#039;s a LOT going on in terms of the economy, global issues, etc.

It&#039;s said a million times- grassroots pressure on the President is what&#039;s needed now and for his entire time in office.  No one&#039;s job was done in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I completely agree with you about the Presiden&#8217;t foreign policy so far (um,  but not so much about the 9/11 stuff)  It&#8217;s completely disappointing.  Afghanistan is a mess.  But I will say that it depends on how you look at it.  There&#8217;s the obvious contrast to Bush, which was awful at every turn.  There&#8217;s movements of diplomacy we haven&#8217;t seen in some years, there&#8217;s of course the domestic policy decisions that look promising.  I would say that from an incrementalist perspective, things are improving.  Maybe not in every area, but in a lot. and it&#8217;s been months, and there&#8217;s a LOT going on in terms of the economy, global issues, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s said a million times- grassroots pressure on the President is what&#8217;s needed now and for his entire time in office.  No one&#8217;s job was done in November.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hellinabucket</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5601670</link>
		<dc:creator>hellinabucket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DOW is up 130 points.  Highest since Feb.  JPM says they are able to pay back the 25b from the TARP fund.  World wide financial centers are believing the worst has bottomed out.

Not absurd words, but looking at evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DOW is up 130 points.  Highest since Feb.  JPM says they are able to pay back the 25b from the TARP fund.  World wide financial centers are believing the worst has bottomed out.</p>
<p>Not absurd words, but looking at evidence.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601670', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5601663</link>
		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Realness, Obama is a War President too! Worse, his military budget surpasses Bush&#039;s while the economy is going down despite his absurd words:&#039;I can see glimpse of recovery&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Realness, Obama is a War President too! Worse, his military budget surpasses Bush&#8217;s while the economy is going down despite his absurd words:&#8217;I can see glimpse of recovery&#8217;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601663', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/16/nyt-surveillance-progressive/comment-page-1/#comment-5601650</link>
		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;fire _ant_chavis Says: 


With all of this spying going on you’d think that Osama Bin Laden would’ve been located by now?!&lt;/em&gt;

Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent and had nothing to do with 9/11, which was an inside job, a false flag operation.</description>
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<p>With all of this spying going on you’d think that Osama Bin Laden would’ve been located by now?!</em></p>
<p>Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent and had nothing to do with 9/11, which was an inside job, a false flag operation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5601650', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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