Fox refuses to defend its ‘tea party’ advocacy on NPR.
Fox refuses to defend its ‘tea party’ advocacy on NPR.
As ThinkProgress pointed out, Fox News aggressively promoted this week’s conservative, anti-Obama tea parties, airing 107 ads for its coverage of the protests over 10 days. Earlier today, NPR’s Tell Me More hosted the Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz, who criticized the network’s coverage, and The Atlantic’s Reihan Salam to discuss how the media covered the protests. During the conversation, host Michel Martin noted that Fox refused to participate in the dicussion:
MARTIN: And I should mention at this point that we asked Fox News for a representative to come on the program to characterize how they view their coverage of these tea parties. We worked at it all day and after repeated requests, they declined to provide a guest or issue a statement or assist in our conversation in any way. So, I think it’s fair to point that out.
Listen here:
This isn’t the first time Fox has refused to defend its coverage. When Politico’s Michael Calderone did an article on the network’s coverage, Fox refused to provide an executive to speak about its tea party coverage and “declined repeated offers to address the charge that it was blurring the lines between journalism and advocacy.”
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Fox can only defend itself within its own universe and with its own audience. Fox can never stand toe to toe with a ‘normal’ news show because it does not provide news to anyone – only GOP propaganda and bullshit amplification.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:05 pmCan’t expect FOX to be accountable for anything they say, the way a legitimate news channel is.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:06 pmYou know, if FOX looks this screwed up from the outside, it must be a real mad house on the inside. Don’t you think? Or is the nonsense and panic all for $$?
April 17th, 2009 at 7:11 pmApe-Man Says:
You know, if FOX looks this screwed up from the outside, it must be a real mad house on the inside. Don’t you think? Or is the nonsense and panic all for $$?
A frightened citizenry needs a source of fear – and that’s where Fox News comes in. “Be afraid and watch our network for protection and free teabags!”.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:14 pmWhy not?
This is the thing that gets me. FAUX has done “worse,” from a journalistic standpoint, and they don’t really care. OK. But if they really think that the tea parties are in line with their editorial stance, and they really are proud of them, and really want to be involved with both promoting and covering a populist opposition movement, then what’s the problem with just coming out saying so?
The fact that nobody behind these protests is willing to admit their involvement pretty much proves just how embarassing the protests are.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pmwell, isn’t it time to use FOX’s tactics back at them and ambush interview them, since they refuse to be interviewed?
Seems fair to me…..
April 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pmhp Says:
Fox refuses to defend its ‘tea party’ advocacy on NPR.
How do you defend a ghost?
How do you remember to keep breathing?
April 17th, 2009 at 7:16 pmDuring the conversation, host Michel Martin noted that Fox refused to participate in the dicussion:
Que the Jesse Watters parking lot ambush.
I hope Martin has an itchy taserfinger, and a full capacitor.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:16 pmFOX News lacks the courage of its convictions. They’re only willing to preach it to the choir.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pmThis proves Fake News Network’s lack of journalistic integrity. Fake News has been getting away with this nonsense for far too long. They are so arrogant because of high ratings and think that they don’t have to provide any explanation for their actions. One day those ratings will plummet and all their dirty deeds will backfire.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:17 pmIt’d be great footage: Watters ambushes NPR host in parking lot. Host pulls taser, Watters wets himself, making the jolt even more intense. Fox cameraman wets himself, laughing.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pmAll these tea bagger events accomplished was more big corporation lobbyist money for Dick Armey and they also gave Newt Gingrich another chance to try to prove he really isn’t the scoundrel who was run out of Congress in disgrace.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:22 pmhp Says:
One day those ratings will plummet and all their dirty deeds will backfire.
Which day, I want to put it on my calendar.
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your birthday.
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April 17th, 2009 at 7:22 pmFox didn’t just report, it promoted the tea parties:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-OWDjOQfI
Anderson Cooper insults the tea party attendees with vulgarity:
http://www.wikio.com/video/1028435
Susan Roesgen steps out from reporting into debating:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WQbNaXJ8Pw
Was there ever really a time when journalists really just reported the news? Or is that just myth.
I think people have known for a while that there is not much objectivity in the MSM. Instead of objective reporting (if there even is such a thing) you get partisan messages that seem crafted towards a particular ideological demographic. More market share, more money. The truth? Doesn’t seem to matter.
It just seems that in the past, the reporters at least tried to appear objective. And they also seemed at least more restrained than the subjects they were covering.
Somebody could do a better job and put it on cable.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:25 pmhp Says:
Condoning and inciting violence, now?
If someone comes up on me suddenly, he’d better be ready for some serious pre-emptive defense.
You got a problem with that, suddenly?
April 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pmhp Says:
Condoning and inciting violence, now?
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that would be your friend.
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April 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pmI’d like to point out that Fox news did advocate the tea parties shamelessly, but the tea parties, from what I’ve seen, were at first totally grass roots.
Then Fox hijacked them and turned them partisan to keep the people sleeping.
CNN did some advocacy of their own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xWGvdRQ9Q
April 17th, 2009 at 7:26 pmI can’t wait for FAUX to claim that the tea-tantrum drew 5-7 million people. After all, it wouldn’t look good to admit they pushed a big fizzle.
Organizers indicated that Tax Parties took place at more than 850 locations with any where from 750,000 to over 1 million attendees. The Americans for Tax Reform has tallied 242 locations with around 299,071 attendees.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Anti-tax_tea_parties_held_across_the_USA?curid=125020
April 17th, 2009 at 7:27 pmal,
yeah fair and honest reporting.
it’s disgusting.
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April 17th, 2009 at 7:29 pmWayne Says:
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well, isn’t it time to use FOX’s tactics back at them and ambush interview them, since they refuse to be interviewed?
Seems fair to me…..
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You beat me to it, Wayne. The only strategy that makes sense.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pmI believe there have been plenty of folk to “admit” they were behind them.
Good you put admit in quotations because your absolutely right. There are plenty of folk that had nothing to do with the actual organization of the tea parties but are more than willing to think they did. It’s a strategy that right-wingers have used often.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pmbackup Says:
Somebody could do a better job and put it on cable.
There’s the problem, backup. One can’t expect an entertainment company to stick with journalistic integrity. Cable “news” will always be suspect.
The only TV news I’ve bothered with for some years is PBS. They seem to get equal complaints for being “too left” and “too right”. I’ll stick with news that pisses off everybody.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:32 pmBircher
Organized
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April 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pmE
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All that whoopdi-do didn’t amount to much.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pm>>>
and you just don’t get much more
“grass roots” than the john birch society,
do you?
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(look at all those people!)
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April 17th, 2009 at 7:33 pmhp:
Anything is possible. No one gets away with fraud forever. Even an idiot like you should know that – LOL
I never thought we’d have an African-American President – BUT NOW WE DO! How you like those teabags in ya mouth!?
April 17th, 2009 at 7:36 pmIt started from people who were in the Ron Paul campaign. They had a website for a moneybomb called teaparty07.com. There was a central clearing house for organizers to talk and coordinate at taxdayteaparty.com .
But anyway, I’ve asked around, looking for people to tell me who started the whole thing. No one really knew where the idea came from, but they would tell me if they organized one in their area.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:36 pmpete. I agree. The guys in the marketing departments have got to have a lot of influence (because of all the money). With that influence, the ‘reporting’ is pretty much useless. Watching MSM has become more of a game to see how far they’ll go to appeal to the audience.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:39 pmI know. The government does not have to listen to us. Somehow the same people get re-elected over and over again.
It’s like the antiwar protests. Did they stop the wars?
April 17th, 2009 at 7:39 pmAlejandro Says:
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I’d like to point out that Fox news did advocate the tea parties shamelessly, but the tea parties, from what I’ve seen, were at first totally grass roots.
Then Fox hijacked them and turned them partisan to keep the people sleeping.
CNN did some advocacy of their own.
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Thanks for the link. It reinforces what I already knew: wingnuts can shout really loudbut in the end they have analytical skills.
None.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:40 pmAll fascists are cowards. Even Hitler committed suicide in the end for fear of being caught by those he opposed him!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pmHey hp, the repugs that I work with were so embarrassed about the teabagging parties they REFUSED to discuss them – couldn’t even look me in the eye! I tried to be nice and not laugh too loud as they passed by my office! ROTFL!
April 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pm*who opposed him. Doh. I wish there was an edit feature here on TP. ;-)
April 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pmIt was not grass roots at all unless you consider the reich-wing, facist media to be “grassroots”…This from wikipedia.org:
Here’s the link to see for yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tea_Party_protests
April 17th, 2009 at 7:42 pmThat would be NO analytical skills. None. Kinda like my editing skills.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:42 pmAlejandro Says:
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iley Says:
All that whoopdi-do didn’t amount to much.
I know. The government does not have to listen to us. Somehow the same people get re-elected over and over again.
It’s like the antiwar protests. Did they stop the wars?
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They certainly helped stop the VietNam war. Nowthose
April 17th, 2009 at 7:48 pmwere real protests.
The amazing part is that the participants, except for the blatant racists, still have no idea what they were protesting. I have yet to hear a single example of the “wasteful spending” and the “rising taxes” don’t apply to the overwhelming majority.
If you didn’t see John Oliver’s bit, here it is.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/17/john-oliver-lectures-tea_n_188116.html
April 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pmFox: sham, liars, propaganda merchants, liars, dishonesty, fabricators of real news, liars, Republican propaganda machine, promoter of anti-American & anti-government wacko protests, promoter of traitors, promoter of hateful, bigoted racist losers. That’s Fox. And these idiots, who care NOTHING for facts, patriotism, or support of the government– incite their large audience to be as idiotic, as anti-American, as anti-patriot, as racist, as anti-Obama, as anti-government as themselves. Fox is a blight on the U.S.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pmPLease, obliterate Fox. They deserve it. They hate the U.S. My God Fox is the most anti-American group anywhere in the U.S. They hate everything the U.S. stands for, and how it became a great nation. Fox promotes destruction of the government. Could they be more treasonous?
NPR would never do ambush interviews. Just because somebody else does something that’s wrong doesn’t mean you should. It’s that kind of thinking that got us into this mess, what with the torture and all.
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hp Says:
I believe there have been plenty of folk to “admit” they were behind them.
I’m not talking about the “volk.” I’m talking about the organizations that planned and promoted them. Including FOX News. There’s nothing wrong with that! It’s OK to admit it! If the lefties had mass protests, you bet that the groups involved would admit their involvement. So what’s up with everyone pretending it “just happened?” Especially when the chain of organization and promotion is so clearly documented?
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backup Says:
Was there ever really a time when journalists really just reported the news? Or is that just myth.
I’m with you 100% for once. I remember when there was universal consesus that Cronkite was the guy anybody, left or right, could trust. Even when he finally spoke against Vietnam, he did so incredibly late relative to the left.
But I blame FAUX News for destroying that trust. Sure, you righties were already claiming the entire MSM was rigged, but it really wasn’t. Journalists tended to be a little center-left because it’s one of those jobs that requires a college degree, and most college grads are slightly center-left. But FAUX went waaaay over the line, from the beginning and repeatedly.
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Alejandro Says:
…but the tea parties, from what I’ve seen, were at first totally grass roots.
FAUX was promoting them before they even existed. Other right-wing organizations have been involved in putting them together, while denying involvement.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:52 pmAlejandro. I think the war protests had an effect and I think the tea party protests had an effect.
(I’m not trying to equate the two)
People gathering and voicing the opinions is an indicator to policy makers of public mood. Whatever that mood is based on.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:54 pmBack when broadcasters were obliged to serve the public interest as a part of their licensing requirements, they saw their news operations as fulfilling that function. News was not seen as a profit center.
Along came cable, and CNN showed that news could be profitable. Then Faux came along and proved the news could be tailored to serve a specific bias and be wildly profitable. No turning back, at that point. Then Faux went a step further, and claimed in court that they were not obligated to broadcast the truth — and they won.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pmSo when the “reporter” said that Illinois was getting $50 billion from the federal government, where did she think that money would be coming from? The magic money tree?
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dixie blood,
I didn’t see anything in that suggesting that Rick Santelli or Rush Limbaugh organized anything.
In fact, the last paragraph makes it sound pretty grassroots to me.
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No, not really. We lost militarily. Yeah, we actually lost the war, as in we got beat.
Well, ok, maybe low morale had a lot to do with it, but that would have happened without the protests, I think.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:57 pmKayInMaine Says:
All fascists are cowards. Even Hitler committed suicide in the end for fear of being caught by those he opposed him!
That’s another interesting thing. Many teabaggers were “unable” to protest due to failing to get the appropriate permits on time. Others had planned to actually dump tea in rivers, before being told that they couldn’t engage in mass pollution.
If you’re not willing to get arrested (at most overnight) for attending a protest, then you’re not really protesting, IMO. Ask Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr, Henry David Thoreau or anybody else associated with effective nonviolent movements in history. You’ve got to have the stones to suffer actual consequences of your protest, or it doesn’t even count.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:58 pmHow… even-handed of you, b-cup. Your ability to find the middle ground halfway between otherwise unequal events is astonishing. It’s like a super power or something.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pmAlejandro Says:
The current tea parties are not grass roots, they are astroturf, this has been well covered by TP and other places, along with the proof of the corporate backers who started and supported it.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:03 pmThe Fox News organization is the modern day KKK!!!
Fox despise that The United States of America has an African American President who is committed to the entire USA and not only the wealthy.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:03 pmWhen the government goes $1-2 trillion in debt, where will the money come from to pay it off?
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They had an effect on public opinion. Government policies, not so much.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:05 pmWell, I am CaptainMantastic.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:06 pmI see the “supported it” all over the place. I don’t see the “started it” anywhere.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:07 pmYes. Back when news was not profitable.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:07 pmralph. I agree with what you’re saying about cable news. Do most people know that it’s not really news or are most convinced that it is?
April 17th, 2009 at 8:09 pmGet a haircut!
[joking]
April 17th, 2009 at 8:09 pmElBruce Says:
backup Says:
Was there ever really a time when journalists really just reported the news? Or is that just myth.
I’m with you 100% for once. I remember when there was universal consesus that Cronkite was the guy anybody, left or right, could trust. Even when he finally spoke against Vietnam, he did so incredibly late relative to the left.
The real myth is that journalism should be objective. The real myth is that there are “two sides to everything” and that both sides have equal value. Journalism isn’t about “just reporting the news”, journalism is about rooting out the truth.
“Just reporting the news” is reading a government press release aloud without investigation. It’s horse race “journalism” or “get the best source” journalism. If you want real journalism, watch tapes of Edward R. Murrow, or read books by (and about) I F Stone. The golden age of journalism in the US might have been the years after Watergate, when “investigative journalism” was respected and appreciated. Most of the best of it appeared in magazines, less so in newspapers and almost never on tv (except some of the better work by 60 minutes).
April 17th, 2009 at 8:10 pmAlejandro Says:
They had an effect on public opinion. Government policies, not so much.
Yeah, it enforced the public opinion that the Republicans are nucking futz and a bunch of foolish idiots for letting the rich 1% talk them into making a mockery of themselves.
98% are getting tax cuts. Duh….
April 17th, 2009 at 8:11 pmThat still blows my mind.
“We’re going to protest the government!”
“Did you get permission from the government first?”
“DOH!”
Now that is totally stupid. I’m glad someone stopped them before f-ing up a river.
Thoreau is great. I really like his line “Any fool can make a rule, and any fool with follow it.” (Also, very much like Lysander Spooner).
I can’t see Thoreau asking for a permit to protest.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:11 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
How… even-handed of you, b-cup. Your ability to find the middle ground halfway between otherwise unequal events is astonishing. It’s like a super power or something.
You are my favorite locust, ralph. And not just because you share a name with my favorite dog, either.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pm#53, Go back and read my post. The history is there. You just refuse to see it…now…shape up…try to be smart…
April 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pmAlejandro Says:
When the government goes $1-2 trillion in debt, where will the money come from to pay it off?
Look, I’m not saying that the federal deficit isn’t a concern. I’m concerned about it too. But maybe your people should have thought about that before they blew the surplus, cranked up the debt and then tanked the economy.
FYI: We’re not supporting the current spending programs because we’re commies and are trying to turn the American economy into a socialist paradise. We’re supporting the current spending programs because they are temporarily necessary to try to avert the crisis that you lot created.
With any luck, we’ll be able to turn the economy around and get spending back down before America goes completely bankrupt due to the excesses of the Bush administration. But you are not helping.
If you want to know what the viable future of the Republican party could be – i.e. how it could actually help rather than continue as a carnival freak show, try moving a bit closer to a position of moderate fiscal responsibility, so that when the crisis is averted, we’ve got somebody to remind us to bring spending back down.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:14 pmI’m talking about ALL protests.
But to reply to the tax cut thing (and watch for yours, see if you can notice it, you won’t)… it’s the spending.
How can you expect to double the national debt in 8 years under Bush, then start borrowing at an even more alarming rate under Obama ($1.5 + trillion deficits for the next ten years are projected) and never expect taxes to rise?
You’ve got two choices taxes or inflation. There’s no escaping it.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pmTouché.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pmMy mother and her husband like to watch FOX. He listens to Limbaugh. I suspect they know its not news but subjective truth..what they want to hear.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:16 pmDadgummit!
The Thoreau line is:
“Any fool can make a rule and any fool will follow it.”
April 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
The real myth is that journalism should be objective. The real myth is that there are “two sides to everything” and that both sides have equal value. Journalism isn’t about “just reporting the news”, journalism is about rooting out the truth.
“Just reporting the news” is reading a government press release aloud without investigation. It’s horse race “journalism” or “get the best source” journalism.
“Objective” is not the same thing as “put on a tree hugger and a neocon and let the viewer split the difference,” although that’s what passes for news these days. Anybody who’s ever taken a journalism class in college understands that there are specific techniques for identifying biased statements and eliminating them. But they also understand that objectively false statements must be corrected wherever they may appear. So, no; reading a press release isn’t journalism unless you also research its claims and point out its errors and major omissions.
“Journalism” used to mean something. Now… I don’t know. Between the kah-razy cable news networks and the mass death of newspapers throughout the country, news media is going through some kind of weird mass pupal/transformative process, and I don’t think we’ve worked out what the result is going to look like yet.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:21 pmhp Says: 3
How do you post things so abjectly stupid?
April 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pmWrong. The last paragraph speaks to a disconnected mob of people that do not have a grassroots center…jeez…could you try to comprehend what you read?
April 17th, 2009 at 8:24 pmWe got into a discussion about Bush spending..The parental unit stated that it didnt sound like something Dubya would do [TARP and Dubya bailing out GM&Chrysler]
So I showed her, dates and words plus the numbers, what really occurred. Then and only then did she concede that Dubya had bailed out GM and Chrysler whereas before she assumed, because of FOX, that Obama, solely, had bailed them out.
Its quite a headgame. When people only get their ‘news’ thru a single source and the TV is the source of that reality pumped into a small area [home] then the ability to propagate a false reality is scary large especially when people want false views reinforced by pundits.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pmBy subjective I mean that someone will state something they think is true such as ‘I can fly’ thats a subjective truth.
Take them to a tall building, push them off, and see if they can fly. They will for a short period before hitting the objective ground.
Did they fly? Yes. Did they do so because they could? No.
Were they telling the truth? From their POV yes. From a spectator POV. No.
O’Reilly tells people what they, or he, wants to hear. Is the power of Bill-O a real power? No. Proud may think so but thats a subjective truth. Its what he wants to believe.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:33 pmgummitch. This is a take I haven’t heard.
The idea that news shouldn’t be objective, initially doesn’t sound right. But, I agree with the idea that there are not always two valid sides to an issue. And the idea that there are two different approaches; merely relaying facts vs. rooting out the truth, is interesting.
If objectivity is impossible, maybe rooting out the truth without the guise of objectivity is more honest.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:37 pmAll good points, but we are a nation of laws. All large & small protests I’ve been to have had a permit. The only time you don’t need a permit is if you’re standing alone on a public sidewalk holding a sign (or if it’s not a large crowd and it’s not disrupting the flow of traffic etc).
But! Getting arrested for standing up for what you believe in is a good thing too. Sends a clear message for sure.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:41 pmWait wait wait wait.
Are you saying that unless it’s centrally organized, it’s not grassroots?
Weren’t you saying before that it wasn’t grassroots because it was centrally organized?
My people? Who is that?
Republicans? No, thanks.
I created no part of this, thank you very much.
Ah, so the solution to too much spending is more spending. Got it.
Well, you seem to love the Republican party more than I do. I wish it would just go away and die. Then the Democratic Party can follow its lead.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:44 pmKayInMaine Says:
All good points, but we are a nation of laws.
I’m just picturing what Ghandi, MLK or Thoreau would say about that. If they felt that their chosen form of protest was worth doing to begin with, then the possibility of arrest wouldn’t deter them in the least.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pmAt least Murdock doesn’t just advocate lower taxes, he practices what he preaches:
http://www.taxjustice-usa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=73
Tax havens for 60 subsidiaries to laundry profits.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:46 pmI’m not sure who first said, “there’s nothing objective about giving BS equal weight to the truth“.
FAUX takes it even further. Their GOP BS is passed along as Gospel while any opposition, even when the opposition is clearly and objectively right, is marginalized and discounted.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pmFirst off, the reason why the 2010 budget is so expensive is because the funding for the Iraq & Afghanistan wars are included in it along with Bush’s tax cuts for the uber wealthy. George Bush refused to put these 3 things in any budget after 2002 (he did an emergency supplemental off the books so Americans couldn’t see how much they were costing us).
Secondly, President Obama is spending money on long term jobs and some short term. THIS IS RESPONSIBLE SPENDING. George Bush’s spending? Not so much. Basically our money was siphoned away from us by the uber wealthy and we got nothing but a pink slip, a foreclosed home, or a deflated 401K. American needs jobs right now and President Obama is saying, ’sometimes we need to spend money to make money’, and while he’s doing that, he will be taxing the uber wealthy MORE and it will be in line with what Bill Clinton taxed them.
Prosperity doesn’t begin with an “R” (as in republican)….it begins with a “P” (as in a progressive!). ;-)
Inflation was down last month by the way and the market appears to be reaching the bottom as some are saying.
Be patient.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pmIf I might ad a bit, KayInMaine.
Stimulus spending is made in the hope that the economy will turn around. Once that turn around is accomplished? Spending can go back down and those who received loans can pay them back. The most dire projections, favored by FAUX types, conclude that none of the spending will ever pay a dividend.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pmWe are free to protest peacefully and we can shut down traffic or block an entrance to a building without a permit. See? It’s all good. Some protests are spontaneous and some are planned.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:54 pmYes, I’ve heard the critics, but what they’re forgetting is Obama is going to bring 99.9% of the troops home from Iraq/Afghanistan by the end of 2011 and this money will no longer be included in the budget for 2012 and the tax cuts for the uber wealthy will sunset in 2010, so the 2011 budget will be reduced too.
The wingers can’t think past their noses. LOL President Obama is going to tax the wealthy at a higher rate and then spend money on creating jobs (tax & spend! OMG!!!!!! Call the fire department! The wingers’ heads are on fire!!!!). All good, but not to the pilferers and plunderers of American taxpayer money: the republicans.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pmAlejandro Says:
Ah, so the solution to too much spending is more spending.
The solution to a depressed economy is a temporary uptick in government spending, yes. The numbers are in on that.
If Bush’s spending had resulted in a healthy economy, then this would not be needed. The current spending addresses the depressed economy, not the previous spending. Reading comprehension FTW.
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Alejandro Says:
Well, you seem to love the Republican party more than I do. I wish it would just go away and die. Then the Democratic Party can follow its lead.
Riiight. You just come to TP to criticize criticism of Republicans, but you hate Republicans too; you’re above it all. There seem to be an awful lot of you all of a sudden. Where were you when we were trying to do something about Bush? Cheering him on, that’s where.
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KayInMaine Says:
First off, the reason why the 2010 budget is so expensive is because the funding for the Iraq & Afghanistan wars are included in it along with Bush’s tax cuts for the uber wealthy.
Good point. That was an incredibly brave move on the part of the Obama administration, since the righties would be guaranteed to compare his budget (including Iraq) to Bush’s budget (excluding Iraq) to claim he was a filthy pinko.
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KayInMaine Says:
Secondly, President Obama is spending money on long term jobs and some short term. THIS IS RESPONSIBLE SPENDING.
I recall him saying something in the inaugural address about this. Although the overall number is significant and has consequences, it’s much better to ask for any spending line item, what does it buy us? Bush spent massively and we have nothing to show for it. Obama’s expenditures have been challenged line-by-line, with him being forced to explain how it will create jobs or create infrastructure that benefits business.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:00 pmAlejandro & backup:
The teabagging mess that occured this week was a farce. ASTROTURF! The really cheap kind. The stuff of late night jokes! It was seriously disorganized and full of rascists who had nothing constructive to offer – no cause or purpose. What else did it have? A governor threatening to secede from the Union. You can not compare this teabagging fiasco to antiwar protests. The craptacular teabagging sideshow this week is some other nutty shyte! So don’t go there – you are way off base.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pmBuilding Amtrak across America will help all businesses along the route (motels, grocery stores, gas stations, variety stores, construction suppliers…you name it). This is stimulus on the local level all across the country. Also, each state has it’s own projects that have needed to get done over the last few years, but because there was no money for it, it didn’t. Each state will decide where they will spend their money and this is why President Obama & VP Biden have said they will basically PUBLICLY HUMILIATE ANY CITY, TOWN, OR STATE OFFICIAL WHO SPENDS OUR MONEY ON SOMETHING STUPID & RIDICULOUS. I love that!
When a concert or some kind of popular function (even if it’s for one night!)comes to Portland, Maine , the surrounding eateries and other businesses do well. This is why all cities WANT this kind of ‘work’ to come to their cities. It’s profitable all around.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:16 pmrepugs are as ridiculous as their last scheme.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:18 pmAlso ElBruce? The republicans in the Senate ALL VOTED AGAINST THE 2010 BUDGET, which means, they held hands and voted against funding Iraq & Afghanistan. Nice huh? But I thought they were good comrades who always voted in favor of funding our troops?!!! Oh boy. How embarrassing for them. ;-)
April 17th, 2009 at 9:19 pmKayInMaine Says:
Building Amtrak across America will help all businesses along the route (motels, grocery stores, gas stations, variety stores, construction suppliers…you name it). This is stimulus on the local level all across the country.
I do wish the stimulus plan had more for transportation. One of the hugest things we’re going to have to deal with in the next few decades is where we locate people (sprawl, neighborhoods, etc) and how we move people around. Light rail in metro areas, bullet train networks, expansion zoning and public transportation in general are going to have vast impacts on how and where we live and do business in all ways. Not to mention the impact all that has on energy consumption, and therefore energy independence. They don’t seem to have really noticed any of that.
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KayInMaine Says:
The republicans in the Senate ALL VOTED AGAINST THE 2010 BUDGET, which means, they held hands and voted against funding Iraq & Afghanistan.
Pfeh. They got nothing anyways. The fact that they’re voting “no” on everything (even when accomodated) just goes to demonstrate that their party is devoid of any ideas whatsoever. They’re in a holding pattern, and the political vultures are circling…
April 17th, 2009 at 10:00 pmThe really telling thing is that no GOoPers have “left the reservation” in an attempt to salvage their career. The only reason I can think of for their unanimous obstruction is that the RNC has told them anyone who supports the policies of the President, even reluctant support, will result in a total loss of national funding in their next election.
Just another example of their black/white worldview. And a clear indication that they are putting their only hope on the failure of the Obama Presidency.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:10 pmI tell you, I simply adore paying most of my taxes to military, war, Israel, corrupt intelligence services, bank extortions, and Wall Street Bailouts. Why should I complain? I’m getting $15 more a week on my check, while my debt to the Debt-Ridden government climbs to $100,000. It is simply racist to not agree with Obama or anti-Semitic to not agree with Israel.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pmYa, i guess the rethuglicans are done.
Hey, how about the: “New Republic Party”! or something. You know, do some re-packaging, clean up the act a bit. They can learn all about legislation and everything and try again.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm@90 sounds like you need a party to represent you.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:19 pmAccording to the rules of journalism as practiced by Fox News, I believe this means that NPR has free reign to follow any and every Fox News employee around with a camera and a microphone.
It doesn’t matter if these employees are out with their families, in church, on a bus, or if they were secretly followed for two hours before being ambushed on a vacation. According to the Fox News rules of journalism, anyone who does not give an answer (or an answer you like), should be hounded and harassed as much as possible.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:22 pmApe-Man Says:
@90 sounds like you need a party to represent you.
The modern Democratic Party does just fine, as they cover all of those needs, much friendlier than the Republicans when they do the same thing.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pmHaving a Hopeover or Hopesickness?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-klein/hopeover-hopelash-hopebre_b_188180.html
April 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pmGot some proof of that, cowboy?
April 17th, 2009 at 10:42 pmHonestly, I don’t have a problem with the protestors per se. I mean they’re silly and over the top, but then again, so is Code Pink. I was just over at HuffPo looking at slideshows of their horrific signage, and it occurred to me that when all is said and done, it’s not a bad thing. I’m all for people protesting whatever they want to protest, whether I agree with them or not.
In the long run, we’re going to need people to remind us that as necessary as spending may be now, we want to control it and bring it back down as soon as possible. It’s been a long time since it’s happened, but Democrats can forget that when they’ve got enough power. Which is not to say that the teabaggers should get their way, only that having a segment out there complaining about the deficit does have long term positive political value.
So, yeah.
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hp Says:
I agree. The anti-war nuts always resort to violence.
Really? That’s a hell of a statement. Back that up… Oh, screw it. You’re a lying liar.
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Brain From Planet Arous Says:
…while my debt to the Debt-Ridden government climbs to $100,000.
Such per-capita figures presume a flat tax, which doesn’t exist. But which you advocate. So yeah, I guess you don’t have a problem with that.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:44 pmThe thing is that the tea-baggers are no more genuine “protesters” than professional grievers are “grievers”. Looking at interviews it becomes apparent that the only ones who had the faintest idea what was being protested are the unabashed racists. The poor boobs were whipped into a frenzy by FAUX and others.
I love protests and think they are one of the best things about democracy but, I don’t like seeing people being used even if I disagree with them.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:07 pmWhat is worse?
1) Americans from all walks of life protesting out of control spending and high taxation by the federal government?
2) Fox blowing off left wing NPR
3) So called media networks like cnn and msnbc attacking peacefully assembled tax protestors?
If you answered #3 then you understand that the media is covering for obama.
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090416130347.aspx
I have never witnessed such distainful reporting by so called reporters in my life. The left wing attacks by cnn and msnbc on average Americans is a reminder of why these networks don’t even come close to the ratings that Fox has. Appears that cnn and msnbc have once again stepped on their tails and the backlash is evident.
CABLE NEWS RACE
NITE OF THURS., APRIL 16, 2009
FOXNEWS O’REILLY 3,897,000
April 17th, 2009 at 11:15 pmFOXNEWS HANNITY 3,138,000
FOXNEWS GRETA 2,639,000
FOXNEWS BECK 2,233,000
FOXNEWS SHEP 1,979,000
FOXNEWS BAIER 1,866,000
CNN COOPER 1,277,000
CNN KING 1,260,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 1,229,000
CNNHN GRACE 1,172,000
MSNBC MADDOW 1,052,000
Right, Timmeh. Do you realize that the overwhelming majority of Americans don’t watch ANY cable news? While Bill0 brags about his 4 million, about 40 million are watching something, ANYTHING, else.
Most people get the TV news from local broadcast sources.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pmTimmeh, the networks were making fun of your unpatriotic nutjobs too. And their ratings are quite a bit better than Fox. You LOSE.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:34 pmIncidentally, to all the left-wing drones who only see what TP, CNN and MSNBC spoon feed to you…
Here is what CNN did NOT show you when their attack reporter susan roegain belittled average Americans for exercising their first amendment rights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xWGvdRQ9Q
Huh, so it wasn’t only right wingers that attended the tea parties, WAS IT?
April 17th, 2009 at 11:43 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
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Timmeh, the networks were making fun of your unpatriotic nutjobs too. And their ratings are quite a bit better than Fox. You LOSE.
So, let me get this straight drone-shayne. Texans who stand up for the constitution, against a federal government who is breaking it, are unpatriotic?
April 17th, 2009 at 11:45 pmTimmeh, the networks were making fun of your unpatriotic nutjobs too. And their ratings are quite a bit better than Fox. You LOSE.
Supporting links drone-shane???? CNN and MSLSD are loosing viewership daily because of one sided biased reporting. Where are your numbers drone?
April 17th, 2009 at 11:49 pmPeople who threaten to secede ARE NOT PATRIOTIC. How is that confusing for you. You don’t watch any network news? Maybe if you’d watch something besides the lies Fox tells you you wouldn’t be such a moron.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:52 pmTim43 Says:
1) Americans from all walks of life protesting out of control spending and high taxation by the federal government?
I’d kind of prefer if the people at the protest had some idea what they were protesting…
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Tim43 Says:
2) Fox blowing off left wing NPR
NPR isn’t left wing. You might try to argue that they used to be, but they’re most decidedly not at present. You can complain about them getting public financing, but that still doesn’t make their editorial content left wing.
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Tim43 Says:
3) So called media networks like cnn and msnbc attacking peacefully assembled tax protestors?
I love how you guys have such loose standards for the term “attacking.” Attacking? Really? You make it sound like Keith Olbermann got out there and went all chop-socky on their asses. Poor “peacefully assembled” protesters, being “attacked” like that…
That Chicago CNN reporter did in fact start debating the protesters, which was inappropriate. But Jon Stewart totally called her on it. And if you see the unedited version, the protesters all started howling at her about how evil CNN was before they went to her live, so I can see where she might have been a bit defensive at that moment.
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Tim43 Says:
CABLE NEWS RACE…
That’s the second time I’ve seen that in as many days. Where are you wingnuts copying that from? Because I’m not finding it.
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Tim43 Says:
I have never witnessed such distainful reporting by so called reporters in my life.
So now you’re saying you’ve never watched FAUX News? I was assuming you were a fan of it.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:56 pmTim43 Says:
So, let me get this straight drone-shayne. Texans who stand up for the constitution, against a federal government who is breaking it, are unpatriotic?
Kindly point to me where in the Constitution it allows for secession?
They are unpatriotic because they are calling for unconstitutional measures. They are seeking to abandon the U.S.A.
April 17th, 2009 at 11:59 pmHey Timmeh, I’ve never heard a progressive threaten to secede from the US. You people are such babies you lose an election and you’re going to take your balls and go home. Pathetic twits.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:07 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
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Hey Timmeh, I’ve never heard a progressive threaten to secede from the US. You people are such babies you lose an election and you’re going to take your balls and go home. Pathetic twits.
Calm down drone-shane and try to get a handle on yourself. Hard to have a useful conversation with a left wing drone without them resorting to name calling while producing no facts.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:16 amElBruce Says:
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KayInMaine Says:
All good points, but we are a nation of laws.
I’m just picturing what Ghandi, MLK or Thoreau would say about that. If they felt that their chosen form of protest was worth doing to begin with, then the possibility of arrest wouldn’t deter them in the least.
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ElBruce
Tis passing strange, but I took some time while I was on vaction last week to re-read “Walden”. This is one of the passages (about his night in jail) I dog-eared:
“It is true, I might have resisted forcibly with more or less effect, might have run “amok” against society; but I preferred that society should run “amok” against me, it being the desperate party. However, I was released the next day, obtained my mended shoe, and returned to the woods in season to get my dinner of huckle berries on Fair-Haven Hill. I was never molested by any person but those who represented the state. I had no lock nor bolt but for the desk which held my papers, not even a nail to put over my latch or windows. I never fastened my door night or day, though I was to be absent several days…”
I hadn’t read “Walden” from cover to cover for almost forty years, and found my understanding of it so much more complete now that I am older.
Don’t know your age and it is of no consequence, but if you haven’t read it since your youth I highly recommend it.
Cheers.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:17 amI love how you guys have such loose standards for the term “attacking.” Attacking? Really? You make it sound like Keith Olbermann got out there and went all chop-socky on their asses. Poor “peacefully assembled” protesters, being “attacked” like that…
keith who? Is he a liberal commentator or something. HE MUST HAVE VERY LOW RATINGS ON A RELATIVELY UNWATCHED LEFTWING NETWORK.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:18 amTim43,
Do you realize just how desperate you sound?
No?
No surprise there.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:22 amHi Tim43:
April 18th, 2009 at 12:24 amCan I trouble you to define “average American”? Thanks. I may be wrong but in my experience means usually have little value and are usually misleading
Heh! Effing PBS beats FAUX “news”.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:32 amElBruce Says:
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Kindly point to me where in the Constitution it allows for secession?
Try to stay focused el-drone-bruce. Where did I say it was in the Constitution? You insinuate that with your unfocused question.
if you can pull it together and focus long enough, here is a timeline of Texas’s history with sucession.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:33 amhttp://www.google.com/archivesearch?hl=en&q=texas+constitution+secession&um=1&ie=UTF-8&scoring=t&ei=K1XpScaLLpWMtgfG3YzOBQ&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&resnum=12&ct=title
I couldn’t be calmer Timmeh. I’ve never felt the need to secede from this country so I’ve never been as frazzled as you people. Even though with that moron you people voted in twice we were all patriotic enough to wait it out and follow the rules of the Constitution. You nuts treat it like a piece of tissue paper and call yourselves patriots. It is just another subject you people are wrong about. Losers.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:35 amYou’re such an idiot you believe Texas can secede. You can’t fix stupid.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:36 amTim43:
April 18th, 2009 at 12:36 amCan you atleast offer up a profile of the “average American”?
There’s an interesting article over at HuffPo comparing the teabaggers (right-wing) to the ‘99 WTO protests (left-wing). I was never very certain what the ‘99 protesters were all about either. But it’s a fairly instructive essay, IMO.
Tim43 Says:
keith who?
So you’re saying that ratings = truth? All we have to do is beat your guys’ ratings numbers and you’ll agree with us? OK, we’ll go do that. Check back with us when we’ve won.
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woodguy Says:
Tis passing strange, but I took some time while I was on vaction last week to re-read “Walden”
While you’re at it, I highly recommend his civil disobedience essays regarding the Mexican-American war. It’s some pretty forward-thinking stuff.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:38 amHere’s the full text of the Thoreau thing I cited.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:40 amHey Tim43,
Since all you wing-nuts get your knickers in a bunch every time some one talks about removing “under God” in the Pledge of Allegience, the very next phrase therein-”indivisable”- must really bind you up, huh?
April 18th, 2009 at 12:40 amWhere’d Tim43 go? Did he not like the question?
April 18th, 2009 at 12:43 amElBruce,
Thanks. The volume I have includes “Civil Disobedience”. Didn’t get to it while I was away, but it’s right in front of me now.
So much wisdom, so little vacation time.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:43 amdbadass Says:
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Hi Tim43:
Can I trouble you to define “average American”? Thanks. I may be wrong but in my experience means usually have little value and are usually misleading
Like you are really asking an unloaded question. But I will play your game to a point. Doubt you will get anything from it given your blinding bias but here it goes….
An average American is moderate on most issues and can see pros and cons of both sides of most issues.
An average American votes for a candidate that will uphold the constitution whether democrat or republican.
An average American can spot radical fringe hate groups on the right (aryan nation) and the left (think progress and media matters) and will have nothing to do with either side.
An average American has a healthy distrust of government going back to the thirteen colony high taxation by the british monarchy.
An average American works hard and sticks to a budget … and … expects the government to tax them fairly and spend responsibly.
… I could go on …
April 18th, 2009 at 12:46 amOnce again..
Here is another left wing hater with an obvious bias…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xWGvdRQ9Q
Try to be honest with yourselves and watch the ENTIRE video. Perhaps you will learn something about the average Americans who you have been mocking.
April 18th, 2009 at 12:49 amSeems the criteria suggested rules out old SamJoe and Ms Palin as well as many others. Still I am more intriqued by the fact that far right is exemplified by the Aryan Nations but the far left is this place. Seems the far right is many more standard deviations away from this imaginery mean…
April 18th, 2009 at 12:51 amdbadass Says:
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Seems the criteria suggested rules out old SamJoe and Ms Palin as well as many others. Still I am more intriqued by the fact that far right is exemplified by the Aryan Nations but the far left is this place. Seems the far right is many more standard deviations away from this imaginery mean…
After a year of reviewing the left wing haters blogging on think progress and media matters frankly I do not see a difference from the haters in the Aryan nation.
Bloggers on this board detest one group of people while the aryan nation detests another. What is the difference?
April 18th, 2009 at 12:55 amWhat you fail to realize is that your definition does not have to be mine. Shall I define average Americans to be culturally ignorant monolinguistic speakers who can’t even speak English properly, that are in fact not fiscally responsible hence their overbearing debt whose kids are spoiled self indulged brats who jingoistically claim to be better than the rest of the world while somehow still claiming their goevernment is no good and are lazt overweight and watch too much moronic tv? Do I then get to tell you to be honest with yourself?…
April 18th, 2009 at 12:58 amBloggers on this board detest one group of people while the aryan nation detests another. What is the difference?
– bitblt and Daryll’s hatred of gays can hardly be laid at TP’s feet…
April 18th, 2009 at 12:59 amOf course you don’t, Timmeh.
Because you’re an idiot, blinded by your hatred of the Left. But that’s okay. We love you anyway.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:04 amHahahahahahahaha!
To the best of my knowledge, neither TP nor MediaMatters have ever inspired a single mass-shooting. On the other hand, FAUX and various other Reich-wing sources have.
Plus, in the case of MediaMatters, I’ve never seen them do anything but repeat the words of influential people, including “libruls”. If accurately reporting what powerful people say is “hate”? We’re really phucked.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:07 amEvening ralph…
April 18th, 2009 at 1:07 amralph the wonder locust Says:
We love you anyway.
Speak for yourself, ralph. While I am amused by the rantings of trolls, I can’t muster any affection for the creeps. I’ve never been able to suffer fools. Heck! I was even suspended during my 8th grade for calling a “teacher”, who didn’t meet my expectations, an “ignorant savage”.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:13 amSo, Fox News has higher viewer ratings than CNN, and MSNBC.
Isn’t that similiar to being the, “King of the Dipshitz”?
Three million people watching a show in a country that has Three hundred million people in it, doesn’t mean a thing at all.
Just because 10 million people bought Britney Spears first CD, doesn’t mean it’s worth listening to.
Unless, of course, you are an idiot.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:19 amAwesome point, jedzep.
I might add that there’s something very wrong with a world that recognizes effing Madonna as “the greatest female artist” in comparison with Shirley Bassy, Lena Horne, Joan Jett, and Heart.
Heck! I could come up with a few hundred that totally kick Britney Spear’s ass. And dozens who could shame Madonna.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:30 amTim43 Says:
An average American can spot radical fringe hate groups on the right (aryan nation) and the left (think progress and media matters) and will have nothing to do with either side.
Woah woah WOAH, I was totally with you up until this point. TP = Aryan Nations?
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Tim43 Says:
After a year of reviewing the left wing haters blogging on think progress and media matters frankly I do not see a difference from the haters in the Aryan nation.
You are no “average American,” sir. Not by a longshot.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:31 amThe tea parties have made the anti- american regressives look even worse, I hope they have more :)
Also, the biggest tea party meet had not even 5,000 people. The anti-bush protests had tripple that.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:32 amC’mon, Timmeh. Lets compare American, so-called, “libruls” and conservatives. Let’s compare the body-counts.
Timmeh?
April 18th, 2009 at 1:33 amTimmeh?
This is the only estimate I’ve seen re. the total turnout for the tea-tantrums. It looks like the organizers are simply lying about the size of their events.
Organizers indicated that Tax Parties took place at more than 850 locations with any where from 750,000 to over 1 million attendees. The Americans for Tax Reform has tallied 242 locations with around 299,071 attendees.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Anti-tax_tea_parties_held_across_the_USA?curid=125020
April 18th, 2009 at 1:37 amI mean, we’re talking about comparing a partisan political think tank with an attached blog to a group who believes that people of African descent are nothing more than human-like animals, that “Aryans” are the children of God, and that Jews are the literal spawn of the devil.
And Timmeh can’t see the difference.
Hmm… What does that tell us about Timmeh?
April 18th, 2009 at 1:39 amAre you so stupid that you really don’t see the difference? We don’t wish all of you were wiped off the planet for one thing.
I watched your video, and I saw the reporter getting attacked by people who couldn’t form a cogent argument. What did you see with your blinders on?
April 18th, 2009 at 1:41 amTim, on both the left and the right theres extremists radicals. But, forever 1 left wing radical, theres 1000 right wing radicals……armed to the teeth……….just waiting for limbaugh or somebody on fox to say the magic words.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:47 amIf I found myself “thinking” like Timmeh? I’d shoot myself.
I’m not a big fan of eugenics but, I would like to think that I would recognize my danger to homo sapiens and take appropriate measures.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:48 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
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Tim43 Says:
Bloggers on this board detest one group of people while the aryan nation detests another. What is the difference?
Are you so stupid that you really don’t see the difference? We don’t wish all of you were wiped off the planet for one thing.
I watched your video, and I saw the reporter getting attacked by people who couldn’t form a cogent argument. What did you see with your blinders on?
Again, you resort to name calling. Usually indicative of a frustrated individual who has run out of valid arguments.
Unfortunately you did not heed my advice when I asked you to be honest with yourself… Sadly you are immersed in self-deception which is typically a sign that you have an emotional attachment to the beliefs firmly held in your left wing idiology.
Try to be honest with yourselves and watch the ENTIRE video. Perhaps you will learn something about the average Americans who you have been mocking.
Did you at least recognize the sign that was being held behind the biased left wing reporter that read “Republicans suck too”
April 18th, 2009 at 1:51 amYep, if Timmy was the last sperm donor on the planet it would be best to let the species die out.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:51 amYeah I watched the entire video and the first thing I noticed is some guy with an anger management issue brought his young baby to a protest and then lost his temper yelling at a woman. I noticed that the baby never blinked indicating that he’s used to his father yelling at women. That was the first thing I noticed. Then I noticed that the CNN woman stayed calm while lots of people were yelling at her for doing her job. Funny I’ve never seen right wing nuts yelling at a male reporter.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:55 amI also learned that just like the rest of you Republicans that woman was such a liar and a coward that she denied being a Republican while on camera. Democrats are smart enough to know they got a tax break and that the stimulus money is going to help the economy. What did Bush’s trillion dollar war accomplish but creating more terrorists. Not a thing.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:57 amWow, ONE Republicans Suck Too sign. You know what I know, everybody there loves THEIR members of congress they just want other people to get rid of their members of congress. What a bunch of fools.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:58 amI don’t know about them being “average Americans”. The average IQ is 100 and I don’t think too many of the teabaggers come close to that mark.
April 18th, 2009 at 1:59 amOh and Timmy, you’re the guy who admitted you don’t watch network news or any news other than Fox. Why don’t you take your blinders off before you imply that others are biased. NEWSFLASH: Fox News is full of lies, you dittoheads are to stupid to figure it out.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:00 amDon’t mess with Texass!
April 18th, 2009 at 2:02 amTim43 Says:
Did you at least recognize the sign that was being held behind the biased left wing reporter that read “Republicans suck too”
“Too?” That doesn’t balance anything out. Besides, the guy holding that sign was a Republican last year…
April 18th, 2009 at 2:04 amI saw a long list of GOoPers who were involved in the Tea-tantrums. I have yet to see a single Dem who was invited or included in this “non-partisan” event. Heck! They even turned away the, incidentally black, head of the RNC.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:10 amFor 8 years we put up with that moron W without threatening to destroy the US and Timmy and his people lose an election and 3 months later they want a civil war. And Obama WON the election unlike Bush. These people aren’t fit to call themselves Americans.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:11 amWhere were these teabaggers when Bush waged his trillion dollar war because he felt like it. Why did they never complain about the 8 billion in cash that W dropped in Iraq that went missing. Why did they not complain about all the no bid contracts to cronies that killed our soldiers with faulty electrical work and gave them tainted water and crappy food at 10 times the cost of what it had ever been? Do tell us Timmy you’re such a genius.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:17 amTimmeh, you stupid POS, we American patriots have learned that being polite doesn’t work.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:18 amDoodlebug Shayne Says:
…and Timmy and his people lose an election and 3 months later they want a civil war.
To which I say: BRING IT ON.
Put up or shut up, wingnuts. Let’s dance.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:47 amjedzep Says:
Don’t mess with Texass!
For the record, I hereby mess with Texas. I’m messing with them right now.
Texan: don’t!
Me: Whee, I’m messing with you!
Texan: but we said don’t!
Me: Mess mess mess, look at me! Whee!
April 18th, 2009 at 2:49 amhp Says:
You can not compare this teabagging fiasco to antiwar protests.
I agree. The anti-war nuts always resort to violence.
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You are a liar and a fool. A punk and a troll. How can you stand to look at yourself in the mirror? Clearly you have no self respect. You are like the punk kid no one likes at the party so he knocks the cake over to ruin it for everyone else. You KNOW you are too stupid to actually contribute to the conversation so you are a troll. An ignorant brainwashed punkass troll. Since you will never have a functioning brain since you will never have self respect why dont you crawl back into your hole and let the adults talk. Stupid, pathetic and petulant is no way to go through life.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:13 amTimmeh thanks for stopping by. I always enjoy you reminding us how stupid and pathetic you are. Yeah Fox gets DWARFED in the ratings by the networks we already KNEW that moron. By the cartoon sponge too. It must suck to be as stupid as you. If you really want to talk numbers I suggest you suck on the last ELECTION NUMBERS you pathetic loser
April 18th, 2009 at 4:16 amTimmeh you ignorant brainwashed piece of garbage. Just how stupid are you going to get? Can you MAKE it to negative IQ numbers. I have faith in you. You are a moron among morons. Keep up with your steady diet of being told what to think and being kept as a pet by your screechmonkeys and I think you can pull it off.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:17 amTimmeh you are just embarassing yourself. You are a moron. YOU know it. I know it. Everyone that reads your pathetic ignorant propaganda posts knows it. That wont change Timmeh. You are always going to be a moron. You can keep showing just how stupid you are but what exactly are you accomplishing BESIDES THAT?
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April 18th, 2009 at 5:10 amsac ekimi
I do not see a difference from the haters in the Aryan nation.
Well, one difference is that progressives hate based on people’s actions while neonazis hate based on the color of people’s skin.
You really don’t see the difference? You’re joking, right? You’re a joke?
April 18th, 2009 at 5:19 amFox is faux. They have won lawsuits asking that they have the right to do imitation news. They are not journalists. They are entertainers propagandizing current events to rile up the illiterate, hatefilled, reichwingnuts fringe of the republican party. That is the goal of Roger Ailes.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:51 amhp Says:
Such per-capita figures presume a flat tax, which doesn’t exist. But which you advocate. So yeah, I guess you don’t have a problem with that.
Additional accumulations of debt are, absent dramatic reductions in the size and role of government, deferred tax increases. You can pay now or you can pay later, with interest.
Calculations show the federal government accumulated $56.4 trillion in total liabilities and unfunded promises for Medicare and Social Security as of September 30, 2008. If $56.4 trillion in financial commitments is too big a number to digest, think of it as $483,000 per American household, or $184,000 for every man, woman and child in the country.
As long as you have your “hands in the air”, waiting for Change®, you will fail to see that you are being suckered by the elite, this time in the form of all of the deregulators like Larry Summers, NAFTA architects like Rahm Emanual, self-proclaimed Zionists like Joe Biden, and lastly the continuation of Reagen Bush Sr, Clinton, and GW Bush in the form of Barack Obama.
You must love bailing out Wall Street, while people are thrown in the streets. It is amazing how liberals and conservatives jointly get hoodwinked in an alternating pattern.
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No one assailing their first Amendment rights. Faux News is being criticized for its egregious breach of journalistic ethics.
There’s a difference, but it requires a mind capable of complex thought to be able to distinguish between the two.
Are you suggesting that the ratings success of Faux News represents a triumph of the conservative message in the marketplace of ideas?
April 18th, 2009 at 1:17 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
You arent very bright are you? No one was asking them to defend their RIGHT to say what they want. Rather to defend their obvious lack of journalistic integrity. Yeah the markets HAVE spoken and Fox is DWARFED by the networks ratings. The only reason Fox gets even DECENT ratings is because if what you want is NEWS there are many outlets that will give you the news. FOX is the only destination for morons like you that dont WANT news but want to be brainwashed and have their ignorant prejudices reinforced. So good luck with being the least informed moron on the block and being SO happy you arent the only idiot being used and fooled.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:48 pmI remember seeing faux when it first aired. Honest to god, I knew it was gonna be “big.” How’d I know? The “news was being presented by a male and a female with a big bosom, low cut blouse and one high heeled foot propped up on the desk. It was quite the crotch shot. I knew men all over America would be drawn. It was about that time I read about Rupert Murdock’s statement about his ability to “dumb down America.”
April 18th, 2009 at 7:12 pmDon’t believe me righties? Just google rupert murdock dumb down. You’ll find the quote and the date. BTW, for the most part, you folks have quite a great read here. #161 was really funny from where I sit. However, I personally, would like to see Texas secede.