Meghan McCain: ‘Most of the old school Republicans are scared shitless’ of the future.
Meghan McCain: ‘Most of the old school Republicans are scared shitless’ of the future.
In an address to the Log Cabin Republicans yesterday, Meghan McCain said that her recent public disagreements with conservative figures including Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham have reinforced her belief that most “old school Republicans” are “scared shitless” of the future. McCain said that the Republican party must challenge “the mold and the notions of what being a Republican means” by embracing what she called being a “progressive Republican“:
So tonight, I am proud to join you in challenging the mold and the notions of what being a Republican means. I am concerned about the environment. I love to wear black. I think government is best when it stays out of people’s lives and business as much as possible. I love punk rock. I believe in a strong national defense. I have a tattoo. I believe government should always be efficient and accountable. I have lots of gay friends. And yes, I am a Republican.
Despite the fact that the Log Cabin Republicans advocate on behalf of gay and lesbian interests in the Republican party, McCain only tangentially addressed her own views on gay rights. She expressed her hope that all people could live “in full equality with each other.”
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I think government is best when it stays out of people’s lives and business as much as possible
If she truly believed that quote…the rest of her comments are nothing but total B.S.
Just saying.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:22 amMeghan McCain sounds like an old Goldwater republican, which there is no room for in the republican party of today. She needs to wake up and see that the party she knew, died over twenty years ago.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:28 amRealityCheck
Do you mean like letting people marry who they wish, have whatever kinds of abortions they feel are appropriate for them, experiment with recreational drugs, dump toxic waste into the waterways on their private property, and die with dignity if they choose? Is that what you mean?
Just saying that that small government speeach is usually selective bs…
April 19th, 2009 at 10:28 amThat is why they are turning to the lunatic fringe of the radical right and jumping on the bandwagon of the conspiracy theorists and truth movement.
They need more voters so they will try to hijack these movements by spouting off a few of these movements beliefs. The GOP sees it as an opportunity to broaden their dwindling base.
The reality is the GOP will use these conspiracy theorists or truth movement seekers just as they have used Christ, 9/11, Terrorism, Abortion, Gun rights, Our soldiers and the words and events of our founding fathers, in an attempt to win elections.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:30 amBest be careful there, Meghan . . . some republicans are starting to get scared sh*tless of you.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:30 amapparantly RealityCheck doesn’t like punk rock…
April 19th, 2009 at 10:30 amUnfortunately, the Republican party has bigotry written directly into their platform. They call for the denial of civil rights for all Americans, but dress it up as “preserving traditional marriage”. Beyond the platform they use many social wedge issues to drive their supports to the polls through fear of an imagined future. Still, until the Republican party sees fit to remove bigotry from its very platform I don’t think there is any hope for them.
Maybe I place too much emphasis on what is in the platform. It is clear that the Republicans don’t read it. Otherwise they’d find that they stand for improving our infastructure, responding to national disasters, protecting the right to vote, preserving the District of Columbia, protecting union workers (no kidding!), reducing our demand for fossil fuels, addressing climate change responsible (say what?), securing our civil liberties, and, heaven help me, ensuring equal treatment for all.
Since the Republican party is actively and aggressively working AGAINST progress in all of these areas it is clear that their platform is just window dressing rather than something taken seriously by its members. Still, they don’t even throw a plank to gay and lesbian Americans, and then ignore it. No, gays and lesbians are called out directly as a target for bigotry and hatred.
Until the Log Cabin Republicans have the power to change even that one small plank in a platform full of lies, they are simply a punchline.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:31 amIt also appears that RealityCheck does not believe in a strong national defense
Just saying…
April 19th, 2009 at 10:31 amIt also appears that RealityCheck has telepathic powers.
Just saying…
April 19th, 2009 at 10:33 amApparently, RealityCheck doesn’t believe that government should be efficient OR accountable…
wait — RealityCheck is a right-winger. That makes sense.
Never mind.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:35 amA must see. Bill Moyers Journal rebroadcasted at 5:00pm today!!!
April 19th, 2009 at 10:35 amNice tag ralph…
April 19th, 2009 at 10:37 amRealityCheck is a right winger so he obviously has fallen for the republican con job of destroying government to make it appear that government fails us.
It really makes me wonder if Bushco planned the TARP bailout knowing that Obama would follow suit which would give the right a common if not hypocritical battle cry of “too much spending”
April 19th, 2009 at 10:38 amI agree with Meghan on some points and disagree with her on others. But one thing I definitely admire her for, whether I agree with her or not on her views, is that she seems to be able to articulate her views without fear of crossing the great Limbaugh.
Of course, she doesn’t have a political career he can destroy, but still…she exhibits more guts than most.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:39 amYou keep lobbing ‘em near the rim, and I’ll keep dunkin’ ‘em, dbadass.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:44 amRealityCheck Says
April 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I think government is best when it stays out of people’s lives and business as much as possible
If she truly believed that quote…the rest of her comments are nothing but total B.S.
Just saying.
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You might be “just saying” that, but what you’re saying makes no sense. What about the “rest of her comments” is inconsistent with her quote you cite?
If you’re going to “just say” something, would be asking too much for it to be a point with at least some validity?
April 19th, 2009 at 10:45 amThat’s an intriguing theory, but I don’t give them that much credit for foresight.
I think they just had their faces buried in the trough and didn’t realize that they were chewing through the wood bottom.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:47 am“Progressive Republicans”?
Republicans by their nature are regressives.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:52 amAnybody know or wish to speculate as to what and where the tat is?
April 19th, 2009 at 10:53 amThe “old school Republicans” should be scared. Scared of themselves for the consistently poor judgment they’ve used such as running George Bush for President and then following up with John McCain. A bunch of money-grabbing, fat-head p.i.g.s.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:05 amdbadass Says:
It also appears that RealityCheck does not believe in a strong national defense
I served 22 patrols protecting you’re sorry butts…while becoming a disabled Vet…so I have earned the right to criticize McCain…when she pops off like this. What have any of you soft…whiny liberals ever done but cry on you’re threads and pat each other on the back for being Anti-American posters here?
April 19th, 2009 at 11:05 amdbadass Says:
Anybody know or wish to speculate as to what and where the tat is?
Tramp stamp. No doubt about it.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:10 amRealityCheck: Do you think your the only vet who posts on this site? Get over yourself and quit crying.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:13 amRealityCheck Says:
I served 22 patrols protecting you’re sorry butts…while becoming a disabled Vet…so I have earned the right to criticize McCain…when she pops off like this. What have any of you soft…whiny liberals ever done but cry on you’re threads and pat each other on the back for being Anti-American posters here?
You didn’t “criticize” McCain, you made a snotty and content-free remark that completely failed to address her opinion.
If what you say about yourself is true, thank you for your service, but it’s time to grow up and realize that you know nothing at all about the lives of the “liberals” here (or anywhere, apparently). Not an anti-American in the bunch, quite the contrary. Liberals tend to be people who believe in democracy and wish to help the country get closer to its lofty goals.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:14 am‘Most of the old school Republicans are scared shitless’
Can’t be – there is too much repug/neocon sh!t laying around and their tolls leave a stinky brown trail at all the blogs like this too.
One thing the criminal cabal known as the republican partyh has plenty of – truckloads and truckloads of shit!
April 19th, 2009 at 11:16 amRealityCheck Says:
dbadass Says:
It also appears that RealityCheck does not believe in a strong national defense
I served 22 patrols protecting you’re sorry butts…while becoming a disabled Vet…so I have earned the right to criticize McCain…
I’m going to invoke the TRoHS Big Book of Trolling Corollary #4: when someone on a discussion forum offers unprovable personal information designed to enhance his credibility, it’s best to assume it’s bullshit.
But beyond that… how absurd is it that the troll thinks that military service “earns the right” to claim that someone’s “comments are nothing but total b. s.”?
In the Reality-Based Community™, what earns the right to criticize another’s comments is a demonstrated ability to grasp facts, assess meaning and reach logically justifiable conclusions. This troll has not reached that threshold yet, and in fact has shown very little promise of doing so in the future.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:16 amsorry for the flawed formatting.
I’m going to invoke the TRoHS Big Book of Trolling Corollary #4: when someone on a discussion forum offers unprovable personal information designed to enhance his credibility, it’s best to assume it’s bullshit.
But beyond that… how absurd is it that the troll thinks that military service “earns the right” to claim that someone’s “comments are nothing but total b. s.”?
In the Reality-Based Community™, what earns the right to criticize another’s comments is a demonstrated ability to grasp facts, assess meaning and reach logically justifiable conclusions. This troll has not reached that threshold yet, and in fact has shown very little promise of doing so in the future.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:17 amwhen she pops off like this.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:25 am—
Pops off like what? Please explain.
I’m quessing tramp stamp as well but of what?…Please say it isn’t some lame ass butterfly or Chinese character…
April 19th, 2009 at 11:31 amInvoke whatever super powers you think you have Ralph the lugnut…I could care less. What I have done…I have done and I do not need to justify it to you or any other liberal here. I come here for my daily laughs at just how misinformed and completely hypocritical the left is. It is a great source of entertainment.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:31 amPoor Meghan. It’s either Stockholm Syndrome or a bi-polar disorder.
She’s done this before, and every single time she says something that proves she has an original thought, she gets frightened — and she immediately scurries right back into the safety of the standard WTP (Winger Talking Points).
Next we’ll hear her criticise Obama’s telepompter. *eyeroll*
April 19th, 2009 at 11:32 amIf you’re not anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-minority, anti-poor, anti-environment, then you’re not a republican; you’re a Democrat.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:32 amdbadass Says:
I’m quessing tramp stamp as well but of what?…Please say it isn’t some lame ass butterfly or Chinese character…
Be cool if was an Anasazi petroglyph – but probably no chance of that.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:32 amRealityCheck
April 19th, 2009 at 11:36 amI think you come here to seek an identity that helps you to overcome feelings of inferiority and frustration but I can only read between your lines and deduce this based on my training. So maybe instead we can talk about your military service and the specifics of your disability…
I claim I have no super powers. I simply recognize the ease with which one can claim anything he wants on an anonymous blog, and if he does it to gain some greater measure of credibility but still makes no logical point, it’s reasonable to discount the personal information as bullshit.
No, but you seem to need “what you have done” to justify your accusation that Ms. McCain’s “comments are nothing but total b. s.”, even though any military service that you may or may not have given gives you no greater insight into her mind and words than a life spent in education would, or a life spent in public service.
It’s irrelevant, there’s no way for you to prove it, and so it seems to be simply a tactic for muddying the waters, to give your voice more weight than it deserves.
Besides, you seem a little bitter.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:39 amI like John McCain (before and after the pres running) and I actually like his daughter. I think she might put her foot in her mouth once in a while (criticizing Obama for going on Jay Leno and saying he should be telling us what he is going to do to help the economy instead… which is what he pretty much did on the show) but she is young and will just need to learn from her mistakes. “The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.” -Bishop W C Magee.
She and her father aren’t part of this right wing craziness that’s going on right now either. So I have to wish her the best of luck trying to make her party less crazy.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:41 amI seem bitter? Read all of you’re own post here Ralph.
…and as far as how I feel dbadass…I am doing quite well and have no major issues except for misinformed liberals like yourself…who in reality hate America and wish it could somehow become a socialist nation.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:44 amI agree with this from dbadass.
McCain is right that the Repubican party has to change. It obviously has to. Sounds like she want’s to keep the tie to defense and limited government (although dbadass is right, that is selective). And she advocates more social liberal positions (gays, tattoos, punk rock?, wearing black?) and more concern for the environment.
I don’t envision her as the captain to turn the Titanic, but the sentiment to be more tolerant, accountable, less intrusive, strong militarily, and environmentally friendly seems more reasonable than throwing more coals to the fire and ramming the iceberg at full speed.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:48 amRealityCheck
April 19th, 2009 at 11:49 amGlad you are feeling well. So where can you show any indicate that I might hate America? If you can let’s see it. I’ll give you a solid half hour. After that I intend to call total bullshit on you and probably hound you until you admit you can’t. Will this in anyway cause any problem with your disability. Is it like mental or what? I wouldn’t want to aggravate a mental condition…
I do read my own posts. Can you please point out the bitterness you see in them?
Thanks.
I think I see where the problem lies… you accept the imaginary Manichaean world of Good/Evil, Light/Dark in your head as “reality”. This makes you an object of ridicule (which is not the same as hatred) and a good example of comic irony.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:51 amRealityCheck Says:
I seem bitter? Read all of you’re own post here Ralph.
…and as far as how I feel dbadass…I am doing quite well and have no major issues except for misinformed liberals like yourself…who in reality hate America and wish it could somehow become a socialist nation.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:44 am
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rc,
meghan’s right.
you sound “scared shitless.”
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April 19th, 2009 at 11:55 amRealityCheck. I would personally like to see a stronger Republican party as a significant alternative. A choice to keep the parties competitive.
What would your ideal Republican platform be?
April 19th, 2009 at 11:57 am/standing ovation
Well put indeed!
I thank anyone who has served in the military for their service and sacrifice, but that doesn’t mean that they get a pass on everything they say.
Strange how the right always goes on about how we on the left are so obsessed with rights – an irony in itself really. Yet, RealityCheck (who may or may not be a veteran) suddenly claims their rights to declare something “total b.s.?” Seriously, that is nothing more than an excuse to avoid rational thought and explanation.
There’s no way Meghan McCain and I will ever see things the same way, even if she is saying things I might agree with (legalize gay marriage, old school repubs are scared, Laura Ingraham needs to shut up). Nevertheless, if I’m going to disagree with something she says I should at least have the respect and intellectual honesty to explain my reasoning.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:00 pmThey must be pretty scared then. You would have to bepretty scared to be scared “shitless” when that is all you are full of.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:03 pmThorny rose just at her waistline on the left hand side? Harley wings on her right breast?
April 19th, 2009 at 12:07 pmI would appreciate a woman that got a tattoo of Sister Teresa on her back, for when she goes cowgirl.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:12 pmmy bad. make that reverse cowgirl.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:14 pmThe progressive movement is fooling itself. The GOP is one attractive candidate away from retaking congress and the presidency. I don’t say this with any relish. I agree that the Rethugs have isolated themselves more and more from the general electorate by their divisive policies.
However, if they get a new face who looks more reasonable and sounds less extreme, they are one election away from turning things around. The governor of Utah, by mouthing the right things about gay rights, is an example. You KNOW that if he was in a position of authority that he would never do anything to liberalize the laws governing same sex marriage, of course, and the same old garbage the thugs have been churning out for years would be recycled by him.
But the voters are not issues oriented. They are driven by personalities. The voters may SAY they want progressive issues passed by the legislature, but they vote for “the man,” whatever that means. All these obituaries of the thugs is premature. We shouldn’t fool ourselves.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pmI won’t argue with anything you say here. I think you’re right. This talk of a “permanent majority” holds no more water than the Republicans’ talk of a a few years ago. Political landscapes change in a heartbeat. Republicans are generally intelligent people too (they just make decisions based on different values and cognitive processes) and they can’t keep clinging to the same failed policies and rhetoric for too long without realizing that it ain’t working.
“Reasonable Republicans” have a lot of real estate to work in, if they can find the courage to ignore the extremist voices who now guide their party.
You could say “Reasonable Republicanism” is a growth industry. It just remains to be seen if they can design the product and market it properly.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:37 pmMy prediction for John McCain’s senate seat.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:39 pm2010 McCain will win his last term as senator then retire.
2016 A McCain will be on the ballot, but it will be Megan.
I call BS. Anne Coulter and Ingraham are not old school conservatives, if they were they would be against war, against torture, against the prolific spending of the Bush admin, against Rove and his whisper campaigns and against big business getting involved in government. They backed nearly everything that was done from 1994 to 2000 to 2008 GOP/Bush wanted.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:41 pmralph and candide. you’re right. in addition to being vigilant, you should also be gratified. The change in the Republican party that will be required, is an indication, or validation, of societal evolution.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pmThis is just another example of someone trying to cash in on her fathers name. So many on the right are trying to cash in on the rotting stinking corpse of the Republican Party, so I guess it is ok for Meghan to try and get a piece of the action. As for the attacks on Meghan by Coutler and Ingrahm, keep fight “ladies” throw a little for gas on the GOP bonfire, it makes me feel warm and toasty.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:44 pm2016 A McCain will be on the ballot, but it will be Megan.
I dont think she will be old enough [35] to run for president beause she would be 32 in 2016
April 19th, 2009 at 12:44 pmXisithrus. Wiz might have been talking about the Senate seat. That’s 30.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:48 pmb-cup, I don’t know what you mean by societal evolution but I do look forward to a more relevant Republican Party emerging from this wreckage.
The Democrats need a credible opposition to check their own excesses, the role that they failed to perform for the Republican majority for the last several years. the nation needs a credible Republican Party to push responsible policies and solutions to problems for which liberalism might be poorly suited.
The nation has an adversarial political system and, while it may not be the best way to achieve some goals, it is remarkably efficient when working properly. It has not been working properly for some time.
When you make reasoned comments like you have today, b-cup, it makes me weep for the waste that I see when you fully indulge your concern trolling compulsion.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:49 pmRush, Kritol, Newt, and the other wingnuts will quail her descent.
Coming from the McCain clan, I don’t rightfully believe her.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:49 pmI believe that we should focus less on the liberal-conservative divide on issues and pay more attention to the authoritarian-libertarian divide. I honestly believe that some of the problems we face now are the result of the rise in authoritarianism, not conservatism.
I think it’s safe to say that many of us “lefties” who post here would say that John W. Dean is alright. But Mr. Dean is a libertarian-conservative, not an authoritarian-conservative. And where we find ourselves agreeing with him is on the libertarian side of issues. The Republican Party has been taken over by authoritarian-conservatives, and this is why they are a threat to freedom in this country.
That’s just my humble opinion. Thanks.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:10 pmwow – let’s see what Paris Hilton thinks, too.
you know – because so many Americans are heiresses, and all.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pmralph. I’ve been thinking about this idea; let me try it out on you.
Conservatives and Progressives. Conservatives basically cling to the status quo. Progressives want change or challenge the status quo.
Some status quo ideas are good. Maybe a strong military. 40 hour work week. Drugs being illegal. (Everythings open to debate, but you get the idea).
Some status quo ideas aren’t good. Slavery wasn’t good, although it was the status quo until the Civil War. Denying women the right to vote wasn’t good, although it was once the status quo.
Often change is good. The civil rights movement ushered in positive change. Union movements to counter the unfair labor practices of the captains of industry were positive.
Sometimes change is not good. Prohibition didn’t work. Some believe early attempts at welfare programs needed reform.
So, I think, Conservatives like things the way they are and don’t want to throw the baby out with the bath water. Progressives don’t like things the way they are and insist on change to right the wrongs. Kind of a battle as to what we keep and what we discard.
When I talk about societal evolution, I think that progressives taking power in the last two cycles, forces conservatives to revisit their ideals. To be relevant, they have to reassess and modify them.
That shifts the political center.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:20 pmbackup, change is inevitable. It comes down to positive versus negative.
Positive change advances society. Negative change seeks to re-instate old programs out of fear. Society grows when it realizes what was, got us here but what needs to be is something more than the past.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pmWayne. I hear what you are saying, but the idea that government control of business (like the administrations involvement with GM) seems more authoritarian. Like personal liberty, the parties seem to be inconsistent (on both sides) in terms of authoritarianism.
Republicans oppose the issue of liberty when it comes to reproductive rights. Democrats on the issue of liberty in regard to tax rates. Republicans on the freedom of religion. Democrats on gun rights.
I’ve got to leave, but I’ll check in later.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThe idea is that were condone the authoritarianism when it compliments our beliefs, but we resist it, when it’s contrary.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:34 pmFrankly my dear, I don’t give a damn.
April 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pmToday’s Republican Party is run by reconstituted McCarthyites. It will not be easy to root them out either as much of MSM embraces this group. McCarthy wasn’t beaten at the ballot box. Only when a TV anchor concluded “have you no shame” did things really begin to resonate with the American public. No such person exists today. Rush still rules the Republican Party with his McCarthy like message.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:04 pmHi Zooey
April 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pmWhere are your tats and what are they?
Too bad there aren’t more out there like Meghan. I don’t necessarily agree with everything she says but I think most of us would probably have a better view of Republicans if they thought more like her.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:17 pmI served 22 patrols protecting you’re sorry butts…while becoming a disabled Vet…so I have earned the right to criticize McCain…when she pops off like this. What have any of you soft…whiny liberals ever done but cry on you’re threads and pat each other on the back for being Anti-American posters here?
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um I’m a liberal who also served. Yes we do exist!
April 19th, 2009 at 2:19 pmHoodathunk. I agree with this with the one caveat. you can have negative change that isn’t necessarily re-instating an old idea.
You can have a change to a new idea that is detrimental.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pmThis is the future of the republican party if we can defeat the regressive lunatics that make up most of it. Yes, there is such thing as a progressive republican. There’s not many of us, but we are out there.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:57 pmprogressive. how would your republican platform look?
April 19th, 2009 at 2:58 pmMeghan McCain is the “Pepsi” of the “Republican’t” party – the choice of a “new” generation. She’s put in place to attract the new mindless dolts to vote for the oppression the “Republican’t” party really stands for. There are always “new” idiots made every day so, here comes Meghan speak’in for the new GOP. As long as the “Cristianism” movement and “crapitolism” has a strangle hold on the GOP, don’t expect anymore than HOT AIR and lies from them.
RANT:
You CAN NOT have “small government” in this day and age. This concept is not even measureable. We need government to be the correct size in order to manage certain parts of our society – things that individuals can not do by themselves. This is why government exists in the first place. I alone can not keep Wall Street from creating problems while monitoring corporate America from dumping toxic waste in to a river – I need the help of a governing body. That means we have to pay TAXES to pay for oversight! Funny that we paid our taxes under eight disastrous years of Bush and got less “service” that what we paid for. No wonder we’re angry!
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I thought the GOP was standing by their “core believes” by voting NO on everything? Notice that they have retrace by using Meghan as a PR monkey to take on the issue.
Steve Schmidt, the campaign manager for McCain, has retraced on gay marriage too! The reason is his SISTER is a lesbian! Just goes to show you, when they are affected – they turn!
Hypocrites! All of them!
April 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pmdbadass Says:
Hi Zooey
Where are your tats and what are they?
April 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I decided to be original and not get any tats — unlike our Miss McCain.
I guess I’m just not all that dangerous!
April 19th, 2009 at 4:10 pmYou CAN NOT have “small government” in this day and age. This concept is not even measureable.
This is precisely why the Republican complaints about “big government” make no sense to me. But what criterion are they measuring “size”? Is it the amount of money we spend each year? Is it the number of laws we have? Is it the number of people on the federal payroll? Because under Republican President Bush, all three of those measures rose to unprecedented heights. So what do Republicans mean, exactly, when they talk about “big government”? As far as I can tell, “big government” is just another amorphous bogeyman brought out to invoke fear, not to raise a rational debate on the issues.
April 19th, 2009 at 4:30 pmWayne, you are right about the reality. In theory, you could have a party that attempted to reduce the measures that you site. Eliminating or reducing unnecessary departments and personnel. Retiring unnecessary laws and limiting the scope of new legislation. And making spending less money a priority.
To be credible, that party would have to also consider a reduction in military spending and scope.
April 19th, 2009 at 4:38 pmRalph @ 26,
I agree completely. This type of personal one-upmanship is irrelevent, unvarifiable and raises my BS alert every time.
April 19th, 2009 at 4:52 pmRealityCheck Says:
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Invoke whatever super powers you think you have Ralph the lugnut…I could care less. What I have done…I have done and I do not need to justify it to you or any other liberal here. I come here for my daily laughs at just how misinformed and completely hypocritical the left is. It is a great source of entertainment.
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If you “do not need to justify” why do you spend so much time here,…..uh…….justifyingyourself?
April 19th, 2009 at 4:56 pmBy the way, RealityCheck (love the irony of the name, btw) if you mean you don’t care about something, I think the expression you want is “I couldn’t care less.”
April 19th, 2009 at 4:59 pmThe very argument of big government versus small government misses the point. The ability of the government to meet the current needs of society is the question. Can we call the last 8 years of the Bush administration effective. The whole notion of small government equating to best government is laughable. The United States is far to complex to even entertain this argument.
Clinton actually trimmed the size of government and did a far better job of meeting the countries needs than Bush. The trick is in the practical approach of identifying the problems, allocating resource and evaluate the results. The second trick; the wisdom to understand that which you can not change, and the courage to change the things you can change.
Flight
April 19th, 2009 at 5:02 pmWhile I admire her chutzpah, she should know there is no thing as a “progressive Republican.” They were drummed out of the caucus a long time ago, ala Lincoln Chafee. If you aren’t a knuckle-dragging far right wing freakazoid, you’ve got no place in the GOP these days.
So, no, Meghan, sorry to throw water on your parade, but you are most definitely NOT a Republican.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:12 pmwoodguy Says:
By the way, RealityCheck (love the irony of the name, btw) if you mean you don’t care about something, I think the expression you want is “I couldn’t care less.”
That’s correct. The expression “I could care less” only works when spoken with sarcasm, not when written down.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:19 pmThis seems more reasonable than an overly simplistic ’small government is better government’ message. Does it assume consensus as to the solutions to the problems and the allocation of the resources?
April 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pmI was trying to wrap my mind around the “why” of the “Republican’ts” rhetoric. You see, I just can’t understand why a group of people would act so ridiculous. I’ve never agreed with most of the “Republiocan’ts” ideas but, what the heck it their problem lately? Then it dawned on me. They’re going through the ……
7 Stages of Grief…
1. SHOCK & DENIAL (We lost! It can’t be true!)
2. PAIN & GUILT (I can’t stand it! A Dem in office!)
3. ANGER & BARGAINING (They are about here – Obama is Hitler! We might be OK with gays marring)
4. “DEPRESSION”, REFLECTION, LONELINESS (Might be a little depression)
5. THE UPWARD TURN (NOPE! Not yet!)
6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH (NOPE! Not yet!)
7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE (NOPE! Not yet!)
Source:
http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-stages-of-grief.html
They are just now starting to “bargain” with the public as we’ve seen them back-track on gay marriage.
What’s next?
April 19th, 2009 at 6:25 pmOne thing about Meghan McCain — she’s not afraid to speak truth to power.
April 19th, 2009 at 6:53 pm*
and she might be kind of cute if it weren’t for those ridiculous sunglasses…
April 19th, 2009 at 7:45 pmKiss her fat a$$ ……
April 19th, 2009 at 7:46 pmAs a child of the seventies, dbadass, I kind of dig the sunglasses. They’re very “Hanoi Jane”, don’t you think?
April 19th, 2009 at 7:50 pmI am not sure why but they sort of remind me of the ones that Billy Jack shot right through in the sequel to Billy Jack whatever it might have been called. I realize those were white but still..
So ralph I noticed you didn’t have any thoughts on the tats. Can I press you for your best quesses?
April 19th, 2009 at 7:54 pmShe expressed her hope that all people could live “in full equality with each other.”
April 19th, 2009 at 8:03 pm————————————————————-
Who is Meghan kidding?
It’s probably too much for Meghan, but here’s a picture of the huge fish I got tattooed on my back:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/amf/3446529702/
April 19th, 2009 at 8:09 pmNo doubt the Republicans have a War on the Future in the works.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:10 pmIf Meghan McCain does go on to rebuild the Republican party, I know who could play her in the movie:
http://www.celebrity-sunglasses-finder.com/Kate-Hudson-Sunglasses.html
April 19th, 2009 at 8:23 pmMeghan McCain reportedly said, ““old school Republicans” are “scared shitless” of the future.”
But isn’t that the “terror” message that energizes the base ?
April 19th, 2009 at 8:30 pmShe would be more effective if she didn’t have the mufy accent in her voice. It is freakin annoying.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:53 pmMeghan McCain:
“Like … Om My God! Like, My dad is like, sooooooo “old school” ya know, like, yeah. Like, I’m like, soooo progressive. Like, what does that mean? Like.”
April 19th, 2009 at 9:08 pmWhat in tarnation!? This used to be a respectable blog! Where’s FAIZ!? How dare TP print that word!!!
April 19th, 2009 at 10:50 pmRepublicans,
“Good luck with that advice”.
That is a real platform to get behind.
I really like the part where she wants Gov’t out of peoples lives. OH, and business too. You know, no need to have Gov’t pester with food safety or Wall Street banking that recieves its money from the Federal Reserve. It needs to let These AIG’s et al do what ever they wish and destroy Americas economy whenever they feel too greedy.
Join me, its really cool. My Dad says so.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:46 amYet one more reason I’m glad McCain lost the election.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:33 pmRealityCheck Says:
Why dont you get your sorry punkass out of my good country. You dont deserve to be called an American you sick piece of garbage. In fact you dont deserve to be called a human being since you are a sub human moron. Why dont you go kill yourself. The world is waiting and expecting you to do the right thing. The entire world will just be that much sweeted when a black hearted fascist piece shite like you is no longer part of it. The stench of your ignorance and fascism is a pollution on this good country. Your putrid presence is a disgrace on our entire species you worthless pig.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:19 amSee, while I don’t necessarily agree with all of what Meghan is saying, at least she makes conclusions on each item separately, rather than the whole Republican ball of wax. That to me demonstrates some intellect and empathy. Republicans should pay attention.
Also, she’s super hot.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:56 pm