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	<title>Comments on: Gibbs confirms that torture memo authors are &#8216;not being held accountable.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: tup</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-3/#comment-5607856</link>
		<dc:creator>tup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was particularly disappointed with Press Secretary Robert Gibbs&#039;s response to the question from Ed Henry at the April 19 press conference, which was simply to reiterate that &quot;the president is focused on looking forward.&quot;  Unfortunately, these White House correspondents don&#039;t ask the right questions.  The problem is not just that those that violated laws in the past aren&#039;t being held accountable.  The real problem is that however much Obama is holding members of his administration to a higher standard, he isn&#039;t thinking past his own administration.  Unless he sets not only a moral example but also a legal precedent by prosecuting misconduct during the Bush administration, a future Republican (or even Democratic) administration will feel completely free to go back to the same practices after Obama is out of office.  That&#039;s the irony in saying that &quot;the president is focused on looking forward.&quot;  He&#039;s not looking forward enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was particularly disappointed with Press Secretary Robert Gibbs&#8217;s response to the question from Ed Henry at the April 19 press conference, which was simply to reiterate that &#8220;the president is focused on looking forward.&#8221;  Unfortunately, these White House correspondents don&#8217;t ask the right questions.  The problem is not just that those that violated laws in the past aren&#8217;t being held accountable.  The real problem is that however much Obama is holding members of his administration to a higher standard, he isn&#8217;t thinking past his own administration.  Unless he sets not only a moral example but also a legal precedent by prosecuting misconduct during the Bush administration, a future Republican (or even Democratic) administration will feel completely free to go back to the same practices after Obama is out of office.  That&#8217;s the irony in saying that &#8220;the president is focused on looking forward.&#8221;  He&#8217;s not looking forward enough.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607856', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upright left</title>
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		<dc:creator>upright left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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katydid Says: 

it IS hopeless...

2012 doesn&#039;t matter...

this was the last best chance to save a democratic USA...

f&#039;n stupid teabaggers... stupid stupid stupid people let this happen...

April 20th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
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&quot;Teabaggers&quot; didn&#039;t make this decision.</description>
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katydid Says: </p>
<p>it IS hopeless&#8230;</p>
<p>2012 doesn&#8217;t matter&#8230;</p>
<p>this was the last best chance to save a democratic USA&#8230;</p>
<p>f&#8217;n stupid teabaggers&#8230; stupid stupid stupid people let this happen&#8230;</p>
<p>April 20th, 2009 at 5:32 pm<br />
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<p>&#8220;Teabaggers&#8221; didn&#8217;t make this decision.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607604', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AlexLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first clue as to what a weasel Obama is was when I found out that Rupert Murdoch was supporting him. The second was when I read &lt;em&gt;The Audacity of Hope&lt;/em&gt;. The third was when he started appointing staff and cabinet officers. So much for our faux progressive president and his corrupt, craven, incessantly lying party. It looked like Bush had about done in the Republican party, but Dr Obama and his team are well on their way to resurrecting it--if not just becoming it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first clue as to what a weasel Obama is was when I found out that Rupert Murdoch was supporting him. The second was when I read <em>The Audacity of Hope</em>. The third was when he started appointing staff and cabinet officers. So much for our faux progressive president and his corrupt, craven, incessantly lying party. It looked like Bush had about done in the Republican party, but Dr Obama and his team are well on their way to resurrecting it&#8211;if not just becoming it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607519', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PFWoody488</title>
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		<dc:creator>PFWoody488</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pathetic, disgusting, moral cowardice.
President Obama:
If you keep making decisions like this in an attempt to &quot;look ahead&quot;, at re-election time when you look for your supporters, they won&#039;t be behind you anymore.
Shame on you for trying to protect war criminals and torturers.
There is NO excuse.
You are choosing to become an accessory after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pathetic, disgusting, moral cowardice.<br />
President Obama:<br />
If you keep making decisions like this in an attempt to &#8220;look ahead&#8221;, at re-election time when you look for your supporters, they won&#8217;t be behind you anymore.<br />
Shame on you for trying to protect war criminals and torturers.<br />
There is NO excuse.<br />
You are choosing to become an accessory after the fact.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m pondering is this - if the DoJ under Obama is actually independent like it&#039;s supposed to be, then the opinion of the White House about who gets prosecuted or not doesn&#039;t mean squat.  I think we&#039;re so used to having a lapdog for Attorney General that we&#039;ve forgotten that Obama&#039;s not supposed to be able to make policy regarding investigations and prosecutions.  Which means he&#039;s free to say &quot;we&#039;re against that&quot; while the DoJ continues to dig into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m pondering is this &#8211; if the DoJ under Obama is actually independent like it&#8217;s supposed to be, then the opinion of the White House about who gets prosecuted or not doesn&#8217;t mean squat.  I think we&#8217;re so used to having a lapdog for Attorney General that we&#8217;ve forgotten that Obama&#8217;s not supposed to be able to make policy regarding investigations and prosecutions.  Which means he&#8217;s free to say &#8220;we&#8217;re against that&#8221; while the DoJ continues to dig into it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607484', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Anax junius -1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Anax junius -1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

Dear America,
Damned be the Rule of Law...
... So says your president.

Hahahaha...
... Some Nation of Laws you&#039;ve grown up to be.

What? 
I see, you have a man to follow, instead. 
Now, tell me, what good is a Democracy for when you prefer the whims of men and not of Laws?

.</description>
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<p>Dear America,<br />
Damned be the Rule of Law&#8230;<br />
&#8230; So says your president.</p>
<p>Hahahaha&#8230;<br />
&#8230; Some Nation of Laws you&#8217;ve grown up to be.</p>
<p>What?<br />
I see, you have a man to follow, instead.<br />
Now, tell me, what good is a Democracy for when you prefer the whims of men and not of Laws?</p>
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		<title>By: flight</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607290</link>
		<dc:creator>flight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If “not holding these people accountable” was the best choice, then what in the hell was the flip side of this, what was worse. 

&lt;strong&gt;You assume that there are no easy  choices, but what!!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If “not holding these people accountable” was the best choice, then what in the hell was the flip side of this, what was worse. </p>
<p><strong>You assume that there are no easy  choices, but what!!!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607290', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: drew3rd</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew3rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heeebaaduuuhhhheeebbbaaaaduhhhheeeebbbuuuuddddaaaaaahhh, that&#039;s all folks! Gibbs is a dope. He and Napolitano need to go. They make Obama look bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heeebaaduuuhhhheeebbbaaaaduhhhheeeebbbuuuuddddaaaaaahhh, that&#8217;s all folks! Gibbs is a dope. He and Napolitano need to go. They make Obama look bad.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607264', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brain From Planet Arous</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607259</link>
		<dc:creator>Brain From Planet Arous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;e_to_the_pOTATO BUG Says:Oh and rhodes, where do you get your crap. Much of what you said is crap.&lt;/em&gt;

He gets it from historical facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>e_to_the_pOTATO BUG Says:Oh and rhodes, where do you get your crap. Much of what you said is crap.</em></p>
<p>He gets it from historical facts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607259', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Brain From Planet Arous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain From Planet Arous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Bobwurst Says: Obama is a liar! &lt;/em&gt;

On everything except stem cells. Two much forked tongue for me. Any operation that the CIA has ever is considered patriotic or necessary, except when JFK threatened to blast them into a thousand pieces, along with not accelerating Vietnam, dissolving the Federal Reserve, and not giving Ben-Gurian Nuclear Weapons. So in essence, Obama may be frightened of going against the CIA for obvious reasons.

Obama on illegal wiretapping:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20090419&amp;articleId=13249&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20090419&amp;articleId=13249

One thing I am glad of is that hoodwinked Democrats have taken off their rose-colored glasses with Obama much quicker than the Republicans did with Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Bobwurst Says: Obama is a liar! </em></p>
<p>On everything except stem cells. Two much forked tongue for me. Any operation that the CIA has ever is considered patriotic or necessary, except when JFK threatened to blast them into a thousand pieces, along with not accelerating Vietnam, dissolving the Federal Reserve, and not giving Ben-Gurian Nuclear Weapons. So in essence, Obama may be frightened of going against the CIA for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>Obama on illegal wiretapping:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20090419&amp;articleId=13249" rel="nofollow"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20090419&amp;articleId=13249" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&amp;code=20090419&amp;articleId=13249</a></p>
<p>One thing I am glad of is that hoodwinked Democrats have taken off their rose-colored glasses with Obama much quicker than the Republicans did with Bush.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607255', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: e_to_the_pOTATO BUG</title>
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		<dc:creator>e_to_the_pOTATO BUG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PEOPLE CALM DOWN! LOL!

Remember Obama is a constitutional scholar.  With people calling him fascist/other bs, he won&#039;t come right out and start dictating.  At a time when his party has a tenuous hold over the legislature and people gunning for him everywhere, why would he risk creating enemies or dividing the country further.  Not to mention all the other things he has going atm, there are people in better positions to file formal charges.  He only released the memos last week, this is just the beginning of the storm.

Oh and rhodes, where do you get your crap.  Much of what you said is crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PEOPLE CALM DOWN! LOL!</p>
<p>Remember Obama is a constitutional scholar.  With people calling him fascist/other bs, he won&#8217;t come right out and start dictating.  At a time when his party has a tenuous hold over the legislature and people gunning for him everywhere, why would he risk creating enemies or dividing the country further.  Not to mention all the other things he has going atm, there are people in better positions to file formal charges.  He only released the memos last week, this is just the beginning of the storm.</p>
<p>Oh and rhodes, where do you get your crap.  Much of what you said is crap.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607249', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly how do you think Obama should go about prosecuting? Not, I hope, with some unitary executive privilege. 

Bush/Cheney should have been impeached. They weren&#039;t. Obama shares the blame for not impeaching Bush/Cheney while he was a senator. 

I don&#039;t blame Obama for not committing political suicide, and I don&#039;t want the president to lead these charges. The charges are very serious and not simply the stuff of political vendettas, in this case, but it&#039;s not hard to imagine a case in which the charges aren&#039;t as serious and are most certainly political vendettas. Imagine W. Bush pressing charges against Clinton for lying under oath about a blow job, had no one else done it. 

Since there is no statute of limitations on their crimes, they can be charged in the future. Pol Pot&#039;s general is on trial now. I don&#039;t want to wait that long, especially since Pol Pot is dead;  but it does show that the world does not forget these things. I want to see those innocent captives we tortured have their day in court. I want justice for &lt;em&gt;them&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly how do you think Obama should go about prosecuting? Not, I hope, with some unitary executive privilege. </p>
<p>Bush/Cheney should have been impeached. They weren&#8217;t. Obama shares the blame for not impeaching Bush/Cheney while he was a senator. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame Obama for not committing political suicide, and I don&#8217;t want the president to lead these charges. The charges are very serious and not simply the stuff of political vendettas, in this case, but it&#8217;s not hard to imagine a case in which the charges aren&#8217;t as serious and are most certainly political vendettas. Imagine W. Bush pressing charges against Clinton for lying under oath about a blow job, had no one else done it. </p>
<p>Since there is no statute of limitations on their crimes, they can be charged in the future. Pol Pot&#8217;s general is on trial now. I don&#8217;t want to wait that long, especially since Pol Pot is dead;  but it does show that the world does not forget these things. I want to see those innocent captives we tortured have their day in court. I want justice for <em>them</em>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607242', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Levi the Dungbeetle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi the Dungbeetle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rule of law does not exist in the United States. The Constitution no longer applies because that contract has been breached. Americans are no longer constitutionally obligated to obey any law. We are in anarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rule of law does not exist in the United States. The Constitution no longer applies because that contract has been breached. Americans are no longer constitutionally obligated to obey any law. We are in anarchy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607234', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: krystalview</title>
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		<dc:creator>krystalview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As &lt;strong&gt;infuriating&lt;/strong&gt; and discouraging as the statement by Gibbs was...
AT LEAST &lt;em&gt;NOW&lt;/em&gt; WE KNOW UNEQUIVOCABLY WHERE PRESIDENT OBAMA STANDS ON THIS ISSUE !!

Now, it&#039;s time to regroup and rethink our strategy. C&#039;mon Progressives, let&#039;s get creative and find a way to force this issue and keep the pressure!
P.S. I already signed the petition.

I wish I had some creative ideas.....but I&#039;m drawing a blank right now.

Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As <strong>infuriating</strong> and discouraging as the statement by Gibbs was&#8230;<br />
AT LEAST <em>NOW</em> WE KNOW UNEQUIVOCABLY WHERE PRESIDENT OBAMA STANDS ON THIS ISSUE !!</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s time to regroup and rethink our strategy. C&#8217;mon Progressives, let&#8217;s get creative and find a way to force this issue and keep the pressure!<br />
P.S. I already signed the petition.</p>
<p>I wish I had some creative ideas&#8230;..but I&#8217;m drawing a blank right now.</p>
<p>Anyone?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607229', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he could say something like, &quot;I&#039;ll consider prosecuting the last president and his administration for crimes when Congress can convince Karl Rove to show up for questioning in response to a subpoena.&quot;

I mean he really has so much to work with here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he could say something like, &#8220;I&#8217;ll consider prosecuting the last president and his administration for crimes when Congress can convince Karl Rove to show up for questioning in response to a subpoena.&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean he really has so much to work with here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607221', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607199</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now it&#039;s time to cheat, lie and steal in every way possible without getting caught.
That is what this administration has taught me and I plan to make use of my education whenever possible, for as long as possible.
As long as I continue to &#039;look forward&#039; I should have nooo problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it&#8217;s time to cheat, lie and steal in every way possible without getting caught.<br />
That is what this administration has taught me and I plan to make use of my education whenever possible, for as long as possible.<br />
As long as I continue to &#8216;look forward&#8217; I should have nooo problem.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607199', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rodeskawler</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607114</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodeskawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have heard of Bush 1 and Bush 2.

We now have Clinton 2.

Bill Clinton had some pretty statistics at the end of his administration, but how exactly are we doing long-term based Bill Clinton&#039;s actions in the 90&#039;s?

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, which led to a whole series of other investment-class trade schemes such as CAFTA.  Bill Clinton deregulated corporations.  I will just name these two things, because they are bad enough by themselves.

Hillary told us Bill created 22 million jobs during his tenure.  We had a budget surplus, unemployment was down etc.
That&#039;s awesome if only we had a time machine to perpetually live in the Clinton 90&#039;s.

What has Clinton/Republican trade policy and deregulation netted us in 2009?

Obama wants to look forward and not hold war criminals and traitors accountable.  He wants to have good stats at the end of the next 4 or possibly 8 years by not rocking the boat and sucking up to Republican votes to pass legislation. We are not talking about constitutional amendments that would be difficult to overturn.  We are talking about simple legislation that can be erased by the next Republican majority.

What is America gonna look like when the Obama legislation is history but his precedent of not holding a criminal administration accountable, not to mention some of the authoritarian, anti-constitutional executive branch powers that Bush deemed upon himself and Obama apparently plans to hang on to, still exists?

Hit and run drivers just like to look forward as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have heard of Bush 1 and Bush 2.</p>
<p>We now have Clinton 2.</p>
<p>Bill Clinton had some pretty statistics at the end of his administration, but how exactly are we doing long-term based Bill Clinton&#8217;s actions in the 90&#8217;s?</p>
<p>Bill Clinton signed NAFTA, which led to a whole series of other investment-class trade schemes such as CAFTA.  Bill Clinton deregulated corporations.  I will just name these two things, because they are bad enough by themselves.</p>
<p>Hillary told us Bill created 22 million jobs during his tenure.  We had a budget surplus, unemployment was down etc.<br />
That&#8217;s awesome if only we had a time machine to perpetually live in the Clinton 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>What has Clinton/Republican trade policy and deregulation netted us in 2009?</p>
<p>Obama wants to look forward and not hold war criminals and traitors accountable.  He wants to have good stats at the end of the next 4 or possibly 8 years by not rocking the boat and sucking up to Republican votes to pass legislation. We are not talking about constitutional amendments that would be difficult to overturn.  We are talking about simple legislation that can be erased by the next Republican majority.</p>
<p>What is America gonna look like when the Obama legislation is history but his precedent of not holding a criminal administration accountable, not to mention some of the authoritarian, anti-constitutional executive branch powers that Bush deemed upon himself and Obama apparently plans to hang on to, still exists?</p>
<p>Hit and run drivers just like to look forward as well.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607114', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: trevinla</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607093</link>
		<dc:creator>trevinla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want someone to ask Gibbs if ALL crimes in the past are being ignored or just these specifically heinous, international, pointless and embarrassing crimes?  

Ask if this means that torture is now legal in the US?  

Ask if we will be apologizing to Japan and its citizens for trying and hanging their citizens for something the US now revels in and is hanging our flag proudly upon.   

Ask if those previously convicted of torture will be released and pardoned?

Ask where this policy will end

Ask if this is selective or blanket

Ask how Obama would react if an international court filed charges of torture against these people we are letting go

Ask if Obama would fear he would be charged too for hididng these people and these crimes

We need specifics of how this policy is being played out.   

America should be more embarrassed now by the ignoring of the crimes than we ever were by the fact that they occurred in the first place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want someone to ask Gibbs if ALL crimes in the past are being ignored or just these specifically heinous, international, pointless and embarrassing crimes?  </p>
<p>Ask if this means that torture is now legal in the US?  </p>
<p>Ask if we will be apologizing to Japan and its citizens for trying and hanging their citizens for something the US now revels in and is hanging our flag proudly upon.   </p>
<p>Ask if those previously convicted of torture will be released and pardoned?</p>
<p>Ask where this policy will end</p>
<p>Ask if this is selective or blanket</p>
<p>Ask how Obama would react if an international court filed charges of torture against these people we are letting go</p>
<p>Ask if Obama would fear he would be charged too for hididng these people and these crimes</p>
<p>We need specifics of how this policy is being played out.   </p>
<p>America should be more embarrassed now by the ignoring of the crimes than we ever were by the fact that they occurred in the first place<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607093', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: trevinla</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607078</link>
		<dc:creator>trevinla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Varanus komodoensis

Bush is walking around laughing at us - he is free to travel where ever he wants when ever he wants and Obama has insured he can torture who ever he wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Varanus komodoensis</p>
<p>Bush is walking around laughing at us &#8211; he is free to travel where ever he wants when ever he wants and Obama has insured he can torture who ever he wants.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607078', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/20/gibbs-torture-accountability/comment-page-2/#comment-5607073</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Looking forward&quot; is not a reason, it&#039;s a catchphrase for a rationalization.

Guess what, Mr. President: if you look forward, you&#039;ll see that directly in front of you is a sh!tstorm brewing over whether or not this is a nation of laws.  You might want to think twice about looking back instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Looking forward&#8221; is not a reason, it&#8217;s a catchphrase for a rationalization.</p>
<p>Guess what, Mr. President: if you look forward, you&#8217;ll see that directly in front of you is a sh!tstorm brewing over whether or not this is a nation of laws.  You might want to think twice about looking back instead.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5607073', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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