…they showed this one person saying she refused to talk to John Oliver because she thinks Jon Stewart is a “communist.”

Yeah. Words don’t actually mean things to wingnuts, in terms of having accurate definitions and such. All speech is like “yay” or “boo” to them. Their intellectual capacity has now devolved to the level of a not terribly bright golden retriever. For example, “communist” sort of means “person I don’t like because they hurt my feelings.”

They might as well replace everything they say with “Bark! Bark!” It’d save ‘em some time.

You are correct, Doodle’s.. I recommended your post.
“American Exceptionalism”, as used by the right, means that no matter what we do it is good and righteous.
(except when it comes to Democrats)

This is why Republicans so love the concept of “American exceptionalism”. It allows us to do all the things those bad brown people do but because we’re better than them our motives are pure.

It’s more of that right wing Authoritarian “Do as I say, not as I do” mentality.

And to add to my previous post:
TORTURE DOESN’T WORK!

You may “break” the person (which may be their actual sick goal — read The Shock Doctrine for more on that) but it never produces good intelligence.

(Sorry for all the shouting but this shit is just getting so old).

Can we have some compound in Utah where these people can go and do whatever the hell they want except leave? Torture, no abortions, men marrying boys (incl. pages), surveillance, guns, blow.

It reminds me of the It’s Always Sunny episode with no rules in the bar.

ElBruce Says:

Just waiting for them to show up and compare the two… I’ll bet right now they’d be willing to go there.

Hmm.. I may be mistaken, but didn’t someone post a youtube video of Joe the “Plumber” at one of those tea parties being asked if he would like to waterboard the president? I sure I at least saw signs people made for them that talks about the idea. Sadly, those weren’t even the worst of them. >.<

So, I guess the only way they can compare the two is by implying anyone they perceive as a threat to their Grover Norquist ideology should be tortured.

Granted ElBruce, that’s probably not what you had in mind, but I guess that’s the kind of thing THEY have in mind.

It should be very straight forward.

WATERBOARDING IS TORTURE.
TORTURE IS ALWAYS WRONG.

We sentenced people to death for waterboarding our soldiers in WWII.

We need to go after the people who ordered this, and other, torture to regain the moral standing of the USA. (Remember “morals” you hypocritical right-whiners?)

They don’t give a damn about someone being tortured, but if you try to raise tax!!!

Just waiting for them to show up and compare the two… I’ll bet right now they’d be willing to go there.

The point is that you are doing something to someone which causes enough pain and/or discomfort to presumably force them to give up secrets that they would be willing to kill or die to protect.

Either the procedure in question is so horrible to endure that it has a chance of doing this, or it is completely ineffective in all cases and therefore unecessary. That is, either it’s torture or you’re just screwing around and wasting your time.

Probably both.

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Perry logan Says:

In right-wing ethics…

I’m trying to wrap my head around that term, and failing. That’s like a right-side-up upside-down cake.

Varanus komodoensis Says:

Where are those tea-draggers now, why aren’t they protesting the release of these torture memos, why aren’t they protesting for removal of Judge Bybee’s removal?

The tea party fanatics are nowhere to be found. Why? They don’t give a damn about someone being tortured, but if you try to raise tax!!! OMG!!! It’s suddenly the end of the world. That should tell you something of their mindset.

I suppose then, that Mr. Rivkin would also postulate that the reporter being held in Iran under suspicion of espionage can also be waterboarded, perhaps?

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Love the scare quotes, like the general public doesn’t know what it is by now or is in doubt about what the procedure should be called.

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…and to ensure that the individual did not develop respiratory distress.

Waterboarding by definition induces respiratory distress. If it did not, then it would be completely ineffective as an “interrogation” procudure (I can do scare quotes too!) as nobody would have any difficulty undergoing it.

Where are those tea-draggers now, why aren’t they protesting the release of these torture memos, why aren’t they protesting for removal of Judge Bybee’s removal?

Dear Mr. Rivkin,
When others point and laugh at your acne…
… Know that they do so not to belittle your belief in your beauty marks.

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