Inhofe Will Filibuster Judicial Nominee For Ruling Against Sectarian Prayers In Indiana Legislature
Inhofe Will Filibuster Judicial Nominee For Ruling Against Sectarian Prayers In Indiana Legislature
Yesterday on the Senate floor, Sen. James Inhofe announced that he intended to filibuster Obama’s nomination of U.S. District Judge David Hamilton to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals. Inhofe’s announcement comes nearly three weeks after the Republican membership of the Senate Judiciary Committee boycotted Hamilton’s hearing claiming that “they had not been given sufficient time to prepare for the hearing.” Inhofe’s filibuster is surprising given the fact that Hamilton is generally viewed as representing “some of [Indiana's] traditionally moderate strain.”
Inhofe does not appear to have explained his decision to filibuster in front of his colleagues on the floor of the Senate. But in statements that he entered into the Congressional Record, Inhofe cited a 2005 ruling in Hinrichs v. Bosman in which Hamilton found that the Indiana House of Representatives may open proceedings with “non-sectarian prayers” only. Inhofe called it “insane” that the ruling would allow payers to invoke the name of “Allah” but not “Jesus”:
INHOFE: Further, ruling on a postjudgment motion, Hamilton stated that invoking the name of “Allah” would not advance a particular religion or disparage another. So, praying to Allah would be perfectly acceptable. [...]
I find this line of reasoning to be insane. Who in this body would not identify the name of “Allah” with the religion of Islam any less than they would identify the name of Jesus with Christianity?
But as Overruled notes, Hamilton’s ruling was not particularly novel. Rather, Hamilton was upholding the Supreme Court’s ruling in Marsh v. Chambers, which “held that legislatures can open their session with a non-sectarian prayer, and that such a prayer could invoke ‘God,’” as long as the prayer was not meant to “proselytize or advance any one, or to disparage any other, faith or belief.”
Hamilton found that “sectarian content of the substantial majority of official prayers took the prayers outside the safe harbor the Supreme Court recognized for inclusive, non-sectarian legislative prayers in Marsh v. Chambers.” As Hamilton explained in a post-judgment ruling, “‘Allah’ is used for ‘God’ in Arabic” and as such should be permitted:
The Arabic word “Allah” is used for “God” in Arabic translations of Jewish and Christian scriptures. If those offering prayers in the Indiana House of Representatives choose to use the Arabic Allah, the Spanish Dios, the German Gott, the French Dieu, the Swedish Gud, the Greek Theos, the Hebrew Elohim, the Italian Dio, or any other language’s terms in addressing the God who is the focus of the non-sectarian prayers contemplated in Marsh v. Chambers, the court sees little risk that the choice of language would advance a particular religion or disparage others.
If and when the prayer practices in the Indiana House of Representatives ever seem to be advancing Islam, an appropriate party can bring the problem to the attention of this or another court.
Additionally, Inhofe’s vow to filibuster is surprising given his previous insistence that filibustering judicial nominees is “not only an illegitimate use of a senator’s power, but is also literally unconstitutional.” As Steve Benen notes, in 2003, “Inhofe went so far as to say any senator who would dare filibuster a judicial nominee would necessarily be violating their oath to ‘support and defend the Constitution.’”
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Let’s see how long that one-man filibuster lasts there. I hope you got a strong constitution and a phone book handy, Sen. Inhofe.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:50 pmAlong with Texas, Oklahoma should be booted from the Union too…
April 21st, 2009 at 7:51 pmHamilton was only upholding a US Supreme court ruling. This is only payback for the impeachment of Bybee. Damn these, republicant’s, I wish all of them could be “filibuster” right outta office, there stupid morons, man.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:53 pmI find this line of reasoning to be insane.
And God spoke to Jim Jones – insane
And God spoke to Bush – insane
And God spoke to the Pope – insane
And believers believe God spoke to Moses – insane
April 21st, 2009 at 7:54 pmAnd believers believe Jesus was born from a virgin – insane
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I could be mistaken, but isn’t that the face of someone with a serious drinking problem?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:57 pmBloody typical! He’s all for filibustering now that someone he has issues with is a judicial nominee.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:57 pmI hope the foolish Inhofe enjoys making himself a public spectacle.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:57 pmApparently he has forgotten his previous assertion that a filibuster of a judicial nomination would be a violation of his oath to preserve the Constitution — IOKIYAR.
Are all republicans complete morons?
April 21st, 2009 at 7:57 pmOne word for the republican party–Desperation!
April 21st, 2009 at 7:59 pmDo it then, Jim – show the world how stupid rednecks operate, you bad boy, you.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:00 pmInhofe is another repugnican idiot trying to stand in the way of the Obama Administration’s progress. Just petty nonsense. He’d better get on board this bus or get run over by it.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:00 pmVeritas, I agree that his countenance resembles that of one who imbibes too much and too often.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:02 pmThe people of Oklahoma need to wake-up and vote the Goofus Inhofe out of office. Oklahoma is OK without Inhofe and the RepubliCons.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:03 pmStick a baby pacifier in Inhofe’s mouth…he’s done!
April 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pmInteresting misspelling here, TP:
Inhofe called it “insane” that the ruling would allow payers to invoke the name of “Allah” but not “Jesus”:
Yes, interesting and yet somehow fitting!
PEACE
April 21st, 2009 at 8:07 pmOk Harry, here’s your chance. MAKE.THEM.FILIBUSTER.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:08 pmI watched “Religulous” recently and now understand better the wackos such as Inhofe.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:08 pmThe values and morals of ANY religion have absolutely no place in politics with respect establishing public policy or writing legislation. We need to focus on ETHICAL behavior and leave morals in the church and within every individual’s home.
We were never a “Christian” nation. Neither are we a “Caucasian” nation or an “Anglo” nation. The notion that one group of religions is more American than any other is contrary to the tenets established by our founding fathers when they endorsed the “separation of church and state” as a fundamental concept in the US Constitution.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:10 pm…and Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, LaFollette, Lincoln, John Chaffee, et.al. continue to roll over in their respective graves. It’s a damn shame.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:11 pmJesus would be rolling over in his grave and telling you: “Keep your light hidden under a basket, inhofe, you’re embarassing me!”
April 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pmAnother clown from the Repug Circus. And he certainly does have that heavy boozer look, does he not! Not being able to keep thought processes in order is certainly another symptom – he seems not to think praying to God is Christian.
Maybe he’s training to become the next Joe McCarthy . . . oh, wait, that’s the other Repug clown that thinks there’s socialists everywhere on Capitol Hill. By the way, has anyone told that one the cold war is over and there isn’t any USSR anymore?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:13 pmThe people of Oklahoma must be proud.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:14 pmInstead of opening with a non-sectarian prayer, how about starting with no prayer at all?
What does prayer or religion or God, have to do with state business anyway?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:15 pmOklahoma: the only state where people use the word “dang” in any seriousness.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:16 pmConsider the source, friends.
Inhoffe proclaims his family to be unbesmirched by any hint of homosexuality or divorce.
But there has not been more than one set of grandparents for 70 years…
April 21st, 2009 at 8:16 pmKay. I like Maher on religion. did you like the movie?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pmCan we please just give Oklahoma to somebody, someone must want that flat cess pool filled with fundamentalist morons?
No, probably not….
April 21st, 2009 at 8:20 pmlet him. televise it in primetime so america can see what total assclowns populate the repukie pary.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm“Inhoffe proclaims his family to be unbesmirched by any hint of homosexuality or divorce.”
because they’re too busy banging the barnyard animals would be my best guess why
April 21st, 2009 at 8:22 pmI loved the movie. I laughed a lot and then every so often I would say, “Oh, oh my….is that religious guy a wacko or what!”. My favorite part was when Maher is outside the Vatican (after being kicked out of it) talking to a Catholic priest. The priest is basically admitting that everything they teach in the bible is a load of crap. Laugh out loud funny!
April 21st, 2009 at 8:23 pmThe last graph of the article Says: “Inhofe’s vow to filibuster is surprising given his previous . . . .”
How can anyone be surprised by anything Senator Inhofe does? Consistency? You have to be thinking of somebody else.
Inhofe is an irrational lunatic and a lose cannon. What would be surprising would be for him to show any sign of intelligence, logic, or awareness of the world outside of his troubled mind.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:24 pmFriends, the first evidence of the “Rapture” will be when/if Inhofe or Coburn are 1) still alive and 2) not re-elected.
Wack-loonacy is the social norm in Oklahoma, in general.
I maintain to this day that a LARGE number of Oklahomans would have applauded McVeigh, if only he hadn’t happened to have killed all those little kids.
Oklahoma’s a “southern” state.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:25 pmInhofe is a knuckle dragging troglodyte trying to hang on to the twentieth century. The calendar scares the hell out of people like this.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:26 pmYou beat me too it. I was thinking the same thing.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:28 pmIn all fairness shouldn’t we be calling God Yahoo anyways? After all, the Chews came before the Charlatans and the Muslins.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:30 pmInhofe won’t fillibuster this! If he did that he would conflate government with religion. If he did that he would mix church and state. Only third world countries do that, and just look at how that’s going for them. Inhofe would not prescribe a third world policy for America. Would he?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pmAnyone know where Rupture Ready is? This is tailor made for him.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:41 pmInhofe better say a prayer that he doesn’t have to pee while he’s filibustering all by himself.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:41 pm“Anyone know where Rupture Ready is? ”
having meth fueled sex with a male prostitute?
April 21st, 2009 at 8:42 pmHave the dems in congress figured it out yet ?
The dems do something.
The repubs mount a mass media spectacle of how bad it is (the dems wrote with a pencil. How awful).
The dems pull back, worried that the public will think it bad that they said hello.
When the repubs have the chance, they apply the previously derided technique with a vengance.
In short, all the repubs do is name call to make the dems not use a technique in their arsenal.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pmKayInMaine Says:
…My favorite part was when Maher is outside the Vatican (after being kicked out of it) talking to a Catholic priest. The priest is basically admitting that everything they teach in the bible is a load of crap.
To be fair, that priest was crazy drunk. Alchohol is one of the only things that you get a totally free pass on in Catholicism.
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Stubear Says:
The last graph of the article Says: “Inhofe’s vow to filibuster is surprising given his previous . . . .”
The TP staff are being extremely kind. Inhofe is a favorite kicking ball to the rest ofus.
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Jim Wolf359 Says:
Anyone know where Rupture Ready is?
Do you see the word “homosexual” in the title of this post? No? Then RR’s crawlbot won’t pick it up.
Let me help you with that: gay homosexual sodomite sodomy buttsex anal fellatio blowjob bathroom
… he’ll be along any minute now.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:51 pmThe word (Allah) in Arabic language is used by Christians and Moslems who speak Arabic language.
It is equivalent to the word (God) in English language.
Christians and Moslems in the Arab world use the word (Allah) in their names too…for example the Patriarch of Antioch and Maronite Church name is : Sfeir Nasr-allah
The Shiite leader’s name: Hasan Nasr-allah
(Nasr means victory) so the name means (victory of Allah) (God) to both Chritian and Moslem leaders.
Many words used daily in Arab countries using slang language expressions by both Christians and Moslems derived from the word Allah..like :
(In sha allah) means ‘if God wish’,
(Ya-Allah) means hurry up…come on .
These word have no link to any faith or religion when used in speaking.They are just part of daily conversations used by Christian and Moslems.
The word Allah came to Arabic vally in Arabian peninsula before Islam existed in the 6th Century…Jews used the word Alloheim/Eloheim/Allah eim before Moslems…
In Mecca and in every pilgrimage season Moslems celebrate Haj moving around the House of Abraham built by him and his son Ismael according to Moslems beliefs. Abraham is the Patriarch of three faiths.
The word Allah in Arabic language is not ristricted to Moslems.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:57 pmInhofe needs to calm down a little, so he can help his ‘Arabic words paranoia’ case that he is currently living and suffering from, and to educate himself too about other cultures.
There should never be another Conservative judge!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pmMore baseless obstructionism by the Reich-wing.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pmI just left a conservative blog and hammered them, they all stop blogging :-)
April 21st, 2009 at 9:12 pmtarazan Says:
The word Allah in Arabic language is not ristricted to Moslems.
Good point – is Inhofe supporting hatrred against all Arab-speaking Christians? Get him on the record!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:14 pmAnything remotely Constitutional they GOP does not understand. Was there some law about separation of church and state?
They keep trying to undo this and build some theocratic nightmare for the rest of us. The fact is, you do not need religion to have a good and decent government. In fact as we see around the world what is done to government when religion rules. The worst. And as we have seen in this country it is possible to lose our freedoms even without religion.
And what kind of prayers? And what about those of us who do not want to pray? Whose religion? And what happens to those who are set upon for not praying? You see daily how people that are different are treated. It is a slippery slope. And this Inhofe like all the right wing nuts, is trying to appeal to his base. He like most Republicans, has no new or useful ideas about anything. So he latches on to the old saw in trying to pretend he is relevant. This or abortion or same sex marriage are the only two things he feels his narrow base can relate to.
He is right. The issues are like riding a one trick pony. What’s left after you exhaust all possibilities? Nothing.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:16 pmInhofe is just another goofy conservanazi idiot who can’t stand the fact that Obama won.
Now, he wants to play games. Let Harry Ried set the rules. Let’s go back to the old days when filibuster meant something.
The conservanazis are a useless bunch. They have no message except namecalling. They’ve ran the gamut with “socialist”, “communist” and now “facist”. None of them have worked to tell the world they have a message other than hate.
Next up, I fully expect the conservanazis to start using the N-word for their expression of hatred for Obama.
I believe they will really start crawling in the gutter shortly.
Inhofe looks like he’s a littled tooted up with a bit of Scotch. ;)
April 21st, 2009 at 9:18 pmSenator Inhofe is an example of Christian America and has four children that he will raise with his vaules. Now he dodged the Military by going in one door and quickly running out the back door. So he doesn’t know much about Military. He prays to God while announcing this statement ” outraged by the outrage” as he fully supported the torture of detainees and children. Now one can only ask what if Senator Ihnofe’s children were tortured by some Foreign Country, would he still approve of torture? Even God is getting sick of these Republican Satan worshipper using His Name.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:18 pmOnce again pandering to their ever-shrinking demographic. Why don’t these clowns just admit that they want to declare the United States “a Christian nation,” not only Christian, but THEIR flavor. Could Inhofe be committing the sin of,”lie by omission?”
April 21st, 2009 at 9:43 pmOur Senate Democratic Leader is a weak reed, but one day soon he’ll be a broken reed, and the filibuster will be History.
If it existed God wouldn’t need humankind’s help; in theory at least, we need his.
This constant dragging of god into everything is absurd. If there were a God, and he was interested in politics, he would be well able to make himself heard.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:44 pmC’mon, Bozo… that’s not “meth-fueled sex with a male prostitute”. That’s “witnessing to sinners”, doncha know.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:53 pmI know who he gets drunk with. Every time Boehner speaks on camera he burps like he just chugged the rest of his drink down and then he slurs his words.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:09 pmcurious Says:
And what kind of prayers?
Something that the wingnuts like to come around and leave as droppings, is the notion that “America is a Christian nation.”
There are two approaches to take to this:
The first is that although the original pilgrims who came to our shores to establish Whiteness did flee religious oppression, the fact remains that they fled a Christian nation (England) because the specific denomination of Protestant Christianity that was enforced by law (Anglicanism) suppressed the specific denominations practiced by those same pilgrims (Quaker, Shaker, etc.). Therefore, their own argument serves as an illustration of the degree to which state religion abuses other denominations.
The second is to point out that while many of the founding fathers may have been personally religious, they were highly invested in the concept of a country which was officially a-religions; i.e. made no law respecting any establishment of reliigon. That is, whether or not they went to church on Sunday, those guys were definitely read up on their John Locke. From their perspective, a religous country went hand-in-hand with monarchy, i.e. “divine right” and therefore to officially deny the one meant denying the other.
Atheists haven’t really gotten a fair shake on this argument until the 1970’s, with Madalyn Murray O’Hair. But the logic is the same. If you officially restrict allowable belief to any parameters, then that always leads directly to officially restrict htem to an extremely narrow set of parameters as defined by the majority.
I’m pretty sure that most of the people in Iran who supported the revolution against the U.S. backed Ayatollah Khomenei didn’t actually plan on being forced into a version of Islam as defined by the Khomeini family. But that’s what you get when you allow state religion: there is no such thing as a “broad group.” You must adhere to exactly their flavor, not yours or any other.
Take it back to the U.S.A: let’s say that we chuck out the 1st amendment and establish American as a “Christian nation.” The next practical question becomes, whose version of Christianity? As Catholics comprise the largest single bloc of voters in the Christian U.S, then all second (third, fourth, etc) marriages becaome automatically annulled. Which is kind of funny, considering it’s “evangelica/Protestantl” (i.e. primarily Assembly of God and Southern Baptist) Christians pushing for a state religion. They’d be the first on the chopping block the moment they got what they wanted.
Just like the 1979 Iranians.
The lesson here is clear: the only path to religious freedom is to grant everyone freedom of religion. If anybody’s freedom is at risk, then so is yours.
The wingnuts really need to learn this.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:14 pmThis is getting quite comical. I keep thinking that these goof-balls are just about out of material, but they keep coming up with one ridiculous statement or stand after another – I need some popcorn to really enjoy this.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:15 pmOnce again the Neo-Con Volunteer Fire Department arrives in time to save the basement. Cheny is one of the old guys that stand in the road and direct traffic because he can no longer put fires out. Faux News is the creepy kid on the corner calling in false alarms. These morons don’t even smell the smoke!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:29 pmIf they ever create a Nobel Prize for ignorance and bigotry, this guy can go ahead and book a ticket for Stockholm.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:31 pmyou progressives are hypocrites. You bash Christians but defend Islam. Well I’ll say it Screw Allah. Allah is the Islamic god. Why do Muslims even in other languages call this entity Allah? Ask yourself that. It is a specific name. It could be just a name to say God. But it is not used in that context. Why is the word Allah used by Muslims in different languages?
April 21st, 2009 at 10:38 pm“Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and render to the Lord what is the Lord’s. I think this quote predates our constitution. Christ warned of the consequences of any man setting one faith against another. On these two tenants INHOFE has proven that he does not practice what he believes. We are a nation of godly people, not a nation of a god! The Republicans have perverted religion to such an extent that it is hard to defend any religion. The senators comments are inflammatory, derogatory and self indulgent.
This is not the character of a Christian, no true Christian would ever say or think as Senator Inhofe does.
humbly flight
April 21st, 2009 at 10:43 pmHey Slim, Allah is the God of Abraham the same God you pray too. You are misinformed or ignorant
April 21st, 2009 at 10:45 pmSingapore Slim Says:
You conservatives are all morons. You are so stupid I cant believe you remember to breathe. Allah means lord you stupid git. Allah IS the same God as the old testament God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. This is not in dispute by anyone with the slightest knowlege on the issue. So now that you have dropped by to let us all know how stupid you are what is up next on your agenda?
April 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pmI think it’s nice that Low Information Voters stop in and visit us here a T.P. It exposes them to opinions they don’t normally hear and gives them some exposure to three and four syllable words!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pmAllah is a Pagan enity. Allah is false and I curse the name of Allah!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:54 pmF Allah! Allah can smell my Wallah!
Just like you progressives bash Jesus, I’ll bash Allah and Islam since it bothers you all!
April 21st, 2009 at 10:54 pm@64 on the contrary. and jesus was a democrat silly.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:57 pmSingapore Slim Says:
Just like you progressives bash Jesus, I’ll bash Allah and Islam since it bothers you all!
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you sound angry.
maybe the conservative
comedy stylings of billy o’reilly
will cheer you up.
:)
h/t c&l
:0
April 21st, 2009 at 11:01 pmHow is it possible to profess a faith and yet have so little understanding of its history and origins?
What English-speaking Christians call “God” is the same entity that was called “Yahweh” in the Old Testament and “Allah” in the Q’ran.
Only a provincial idiot doesn’t know that.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:03 pmSingapore Slim Says:
Well I’ll say it Screw Allah. Allah is the Islamic god. Why do Muslims even in other languages call this entity Allah?
Um, because they speak Arabic? You just said “screw God.” OK, have fun with that.
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flight Says:
“Render to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and render to the Lord what is the Lord’s. I think this quote predates our constitution. Christ warned of the consequences of any man setting one faith against another.
I’d view that as the first coherent description of the concept of “separation of church and state,” but I guess I’m giving Jesus more credit than most Christians do.
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Singapore Slim Says:
God is a Pagan enity. God is false and I curse the name of God!
(tranlated for you).
Um, yeah… have fun there with your atheism or whatever…
April 21st, 2009 at 11:03 pmApe-Man ,
April 21st, 2009 at 11:03 pmJesus had no political affiliation.
Can anyone explain why our latest conservative friend thinks we’re bothered by him “bashing Allah”?
All it does is amuse us, seeing another ignorant wingnut slip on a proverbial banana peel.
A (supposed) Christian “bashing Allah” is like a NY Yankees fan bashing “the Bambino” because he doesn’t realize that “Bambino” is another nickname for Babe Ruth.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:06 pmSingapore Slim Says:
Jesus had no political affiliation.
Jesus was a Commie.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:06 pmGood for you Senator Inhofe…keep up the good work.
Payback is hell…isn’t it lefties.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:07 pmThis is true.
But if you read the Gospels, he sounds an awful lot like a DFH liberal.
‘Course, that’s dependent on one actually reading the Gospels.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:08 pmElBruce,
Nice try, why is the Islamic entity called Allah also called Allah in other languages other than Arabic? You still don’t answer.
The Moon God is a Pagan enity. The Moon God is false and I curse the name of God!
Thats is the translation.
ralph the wonder locust,
April 21st, 2009 at 11:09 pmYahweh is the specific name of the Judeo-Christian god so you just proved my point. Allah is the name of a specific entity and not a general name for God.
What is it with you progressives and Islam. Why do you all bash all religions except Islam?
April 21st, 2009 at 11:10 pmRealirtycheck, perhaps you can explain for us how it is not hypocrisy for Sen. Inhofe to have said that filibustering judicial nominees is “not only an illegitimate use of a senator’s power, but is also literally unconstitutional” and yet announce that he plans to filibuster a judicial nominee.
Has the nature of the filibuster changed in the interim? Has the nature of the judicial nomination process changed in any constitutional way?
Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:10 pmralph the wonder locust,
April 21st, 2009 at 11:11 pmI did read the gospels and it is Non Political. Just how I don’t like the so called “Christian Right” hijacking Jesus I don’t like Leftists doing it also.
We should organize Koran burnings to piss the progressives and their islamists allies off!
April 21st, 2009 at 11:13 pmIt’s the specific Judeo-Christian name for God.
The God is the same one that Muslims worship as Allah. Allah is the Arabic word for “God”.
All three religions trace their origins to Abraham. Thus, the God is the same entity, just referred to by different names.
Pretty simple concept, yet you seem to have trouble grasping it, for some reason.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:14 pmI didn’t say it was political, did I?
I said that the Jesus portrayed in those four books sounds a lot more like a liberal than he does a Christian conservative. Serve the poor. Minister to the sick. Befriend the outcast. Condemn the pharisees and the moneychangers. A camel can pass through the eye of a needle more easily than a rich man can enter heaven.
Now Paul, on the other hand…
April 21st, 2009 at 11:18 pmZOMG! LINK IT!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 11:20 pmYou know, you really should. That would demonstrate a level of maturity and cleverness far beyond your grade level.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:21 pmSingapore Slim Says:
What is it with you progressives and Islam. Why do you all bash all religions except Islam?
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so you’re saying that rc
isn’t “reality check” but
“reality christ”?
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fair enough.
:|
April 21st, 2009 at 11:23 pmDemitry Says:
We should organize Koran burnings to piss the progressives and their islamists allies off!
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you can call it “tea bagging!”
you can invite rc and slim jim
and fox news too!
:)
just because you’re conservative
doesn’t mean you can’t have family fun.
:)
:)
April 21st, 2009 at 11:28 pmSingapore Slim Says:
ElBruce,
Nice try, why is the Islamic entity called Allah also called Allah in other languages other than Arabic? You still don’t answer.
I answer: if you were speaking another language, would you use their word for “God,” or would you say “God?” As a devout Chrisitan, tranlating that might be kind of weird for you.
Japanese: ?
Russian: ???
Greek: ????
Frendh: Dieu
German: Gott
Italian: Dio
Portugese: Deus
Spanish: Dios
Korean: ?
Chinese: ??
Could you see yourself honestly, deeply, devoutly, praying to any of these terms for the pne God? Or, having been raised as and English speaker, would you simply say “God?”
You might as well curse Dios, next while you’re at it.
Singapore Slim Says:
The Moon God is a Pagan enity. The Moon God is false and I curse the name of God!
Holy crap, you’re a Jack Chick tract cultist? I didn’t think there were any actual people out there following that crap.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:31 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Now Paul, on the other hand..
wrote the ancient equivalent of modern letters to the vestry…
April 21st, 2009 at 11:36 pmgood grasp of salvation…then a lot of admonishing folk to behave his way.
Ape-Man ,
Jesus had no political affiliation.
OMG!!! Are you that stupid? You actually had to try and tackle that one didn’t you? *rolls eyes* There was this amusing little comic strip a fellow liberal of the worst kind published in a book. If I recall right it was called “Supply-side Jesus.”
Now you go run along now like a good lil boy and read that. then come back and tell me how you can rationally say Jesus wasn’t a dem. =P
April 21st, 2009 at 11:45 pmEXACTLY!
April 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pmSure it’s safe. No one’s gonna kill you for saying it.
You may get logically dismantled, but it’s not like you haven’t been through that before.
April 21st, 2009 at 11:52 pmHey! I’m an Egyptian solar cat diety! Suddenly I’m taking offense!!!! XD
April 21st, 2009 at 11:52 pmAnd if I may, “That which you have done to the least of them, so have you done to me”. Maybe Jesus was not a political figure, but he was a definite proponent of profressive thinking.
By the way….it’s so cool that this blog has folk of all religions, and many committed atheists, but we can still some of the best discussion of the bible available on the net..
April 21st, 2009 at 11:55 pmprogressive, not professive
April 21st, 2009 at 11:57 pmslippery Says:
would it be safe to say that today was not a good day for the d’s?
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absolutely lousy.
wish i were a republican.
they have all the fun.
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darn.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 am*gives OutstandingInAPlagueOfLocusts a hug*
::beams::
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 amreturns hug to the good ladybastet, and wishes her every good thing
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:07 amWhy do the fundies accept the commonality of the Jewish God but not the Muslim?
The thing that’s most interesting is their alliances of convenience for political end. There are, of course, good old fashioned intolerant sectarians among them, and on one level, I can accept that. The fascinating part is that the fundie leaders will leap into bed with the Catholic Church after centuries of raving hatred and outright shooting war–for the sake of an anti-abortion message. They thing that Jews are Christ-killers–but will lump their God in with the Real one for the sake of saying Judeo-Christian when it comes to public relations.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:08 amThe Book of Mormon is a more radical reworking of the Bible than the Quran, but Mormons are OK while Islam is Satanic.
For that matter, Christian Science denies the divinity of Jesus just as decisively (and in much the same way) as Islam does, but nobody burns effigies of Mary Baker Eddy.
For fanatic believers, there are an awful lot of alliances of convenience.
So once again ignorance and fear rear it`s ugly head in the from of Mr. Inhofe,who is uneducated bigoted racist who happens to be a Christian.I am so not understanding the HYPOCRISY from the Reich and their ignorance.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:18 amYou know I’ve often wondered about that myself really. I’ve heard a fair number of fundamentalist Christians say it’s because somewhere in the bible it says you should support Israel, and that in someway the continued existence of Israel in some way hastens the second coming. Again, I’m unsure of all this I can’t really stand to pay too much attention to evangelicals.
Someone else correct if I’m off on that one.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:19 amSomeone else correct me if I’m off on that one.
~fixed~
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 amI don’t have your gift for insight or the ability to articulate my thoughts so clearly pbeeq. I do know that God must laugh at us when he sees the silly things that divide us. Does He care how I celebrate Christmas? What name I call him by? What version of his holy book I call the true translation? I doubt it. I suspect he only wants me to love my fellows and honor his image in them.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:23 amSingapore Slim Says:
Just like you progressives bash Jesus, I’ll bash Allah and Islam since it bothers you all!
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I could care less who you bash. Parade your ignorance for all to see by all means. You are stupid SS. You were stupid the day you were born. You will be stupid the day you die. Every sunrise in between dawns on a day of stupid for you. That is your burden to bear so by all means embarass yourself to your hearts content. That you are a fool is no suprise to me.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:25 amRealityCheck Says:
Good for you Senator Inhofe…keep up the good work.
Payback is hell…isn’t it lefties.
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You tell US moron. We have been wiping the floor with you at the ballot box the last couple of elections. You keep electing morons like Inohofe or if anyone in the GOP listens to the congenitally stupid like YOU then your party will go the way of the Whigs. Suck on the election results you bone ignorant loser.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:28 amDemitry Says:
We should point out every day how incredibly stupid the rightwing is to piss off their al Queda allies. Conservatives morons like YOU just LOVE conservative morons like Ben Laden. You kiss the butt of his poster of UBL you have on your wall just like he kisses the butt of the poster of Bush he has on the wall of his cave. You and Ben Laden are two peas in a pod
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:32 amEugene atrax robustus Debs has a definite way with trolls. ~_^ I love everyone on TP, and Eugene is one I was taken with right away. <3
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 amslippery Says:
would it be safe to say that today was not a good day for the d’s?
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Not as safe as it would be to say it has not been a good FOUR YEARS for the R’s.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:35 ampbeeg Says:
Reality is a foriegn concept to the rightwing.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:37 amThank you Ladybastet I appreciate that
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:39 amslippery Says:
would it be safe to say that today was not a good day for the d’s?
It’s called “taking care of business.” Just sit back and take notes. There will be a test.
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ladybastet Says:
There was this amusing little comic strip a fellow liberal of the worst kind published in a book. If I recall right it was called “Supply-side Jesus.”
I love that one.
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pbeeg Says:
Why do the fundies accept the commonality of the Jewish God but not the Muslim?
Because Jesus needs the Jews to re-establish sovereignty over Jerusalem so he can come down and sluaghter all of the unbelievers in divine fire (including the same aforementioned Jews) while simultaneously whisking all the faithful off to heaven. That’s the entire reason the evangelical right wing supports AIPAC.
Seriously.
No really, I’m not kidding.
They want the Jews to win so Jesus can kill them.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:40 am****
slim jim and rc,
pounded into the ground
like tent spikes.
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would it be safe to say that?
:)
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:41 am.
Dear Senator Inhofe,
… And Hitler gave good speeches, too.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 12:55 am.
R E M E M B E R:
At one time, America went to war to protect a religious belief…
… But that was our pre-Inhofe mentality at play.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 12:57 am.
Inhofe = Outhofe
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April 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 am.
Dear Demitry,
About that book burning idea…
… And Hitler gave good speeches, too.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 1:05 amHow about if they offer a pray to The Supreme Cheese, The Holy Honcho, The Ultimate Numero Uno…
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:34 amjoe cantwell Says: 111
It would indeed be safe to say that. Pinatas have better days and take less whacks
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 amInhofe should only count as a half a filibuster as his vote should only count as half a vote.
It is clear he only tells half the truth (at the most).
And only has half a brain………………..
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:24 amKeep talking Inhofe.
Seriously, keep talking. You’re hilarious!
Happy Filibustering!
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 amslippery Says:
would it be safe to say that today was not a good day for the d’s?
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Depends on your perspective, I guess.
Any day that brings us closer to the prosecution of Shrug and Dirty Dick is OK by me and today it looks like we might have taken a step down that road. So I’m fine with it.
Sorry about you, though.
Well, take heart. Goopers were never any good at perspective,
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 amdoncha know.
Inhofe is an embarrassment as a Senator.
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 amHuman Events and the “Pray in the Name of Jesus Project” (seriously) sent an e-mail out April 16 asking recepeints to contact their U.S. seantors asking for the filibuster against Hamilton.
Only Imhofe came through thus far.
See http://malcontends.blogspot.com/2009/04/jesus-wants-senate-to-filibuster-judge.html
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 amSingapore Slim Says:
What is it with you progressives and Islam. Why do you all bash all religions except Islam?
April 21st, 2009 at 11:10 pm
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We don’t. Prove that we do.
We only appear to defend Islam because you Rightists are always bashing it. If you were bashing Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, or Atheism as regularly as you bash Islam, we’d be defending those faiths too.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 amFor every time a Republican blocks a judge appointment there should be a impeachment investigation against a Republican appointed judge. I am sure there are several dirty Republican judges that can be busted. “Corrupt Republican” is almost a redundancy. Another option is that if these Republican Senators continue this behavior, we can follow McCain’s concept of getting rid of earmarks, we can start with Inhofe’s pork in Oklahoma. There must some consequences to this kind of bad behavior.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:33 amDear Thor
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 amIf thou wert to smite Inhofe with thine hammer,
I wouldst not mind.
Amen.
Did Jesus himself use the word ‘God’..? No
Did anybody hear Jesus use the English word ‘God’..? No
Did Jesus used the English word ‘Church’..? No
Did Jesus speak English….? Also No
So why English speaking people like Americans think it is strange to hear or use the word Allah in reference to God by Middle Easter people?
Wasn’t Jesus a Middle Easterner? !!
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:33 amHamilton’s opinion makes sense. Allah = God = non-sectarian.
“Mohamed” and “Jesus” would be sectarian.
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:24 amElected officials need to STOP pushing their beliefs on everyone else.
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:11 amSenator: What don’t you understand about THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?!!! Why do you think religion was invented? To keep the little people in line: “Religion is the opiate of the masses”. My philosophy is live and let live. Your right to proseletize about your religion stops at the end of my nose. You go your way and I’ll go mine. There, is that enough cliches for you? Get the picture? Stop inserting religion into everything the government of the United States does. They should be here to govern, not convert.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:11 pmIf Imhofe is for something, that’s a good reason to be against it. There’s not a bigger moron in the Senate.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:42 pmHow does an individual such as Inhofe, get elected to office in the first place? The answer is to look no further than the electorate that voted him into office. I am certain that not all of the people in his home state are as lunatic as he. Those that aren’t, are simply in the minority.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 am