Lieberman: Obama releasing OLC torture memos ‘helps our enemies.’
Lieberman: Obama releasing OLC torture memos ‘helps our enemies.’
In an interview yesterday with Fox News’s Greta Van Susteren, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) panned President Obama’s recent release of Bush-era OLC memos approving torture. “I thought release of the memos was a bad idea,” Lieberman said. “It wasn’t necessary. It just helps our enemies. It doesn’t really help us.” Lieberman then said waterboarding should always be on the table:
Q: First of all, is waterboarding torture?
LIEBERMAN: Well, I take a minority position on this. Most people think it’s definitely torture. The truth is, it has mostly a psychological impact on people. It’s a terrible thing to do. … I want the president of the United States in a given circumstance where we believe somebody we’ve got in our control may have information that could help us stop an attack, an imminent attack on the United States like 9/11 or, god forbid, worse, we ought to be able to use something like waterboarding.
Lieberman said he does “believe General Hayden” in that waterboarding “really did work” to prevent terrorist attacks. Watch it:
Last year, Lieberman downplayed the severity of waterboarding, saying, “It is not like putting burning coals on people’s bodies.” In February, he joked about the torture tactic at Washington’s Alfalfa dinner.
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Joe’s constant whining helps our enemies more.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:02 pm“I thought release of the memos was a bad idea,” Lieberman said. “It wasn’t necessary. It just helps our enemies.
Joe is referring to the current administration.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:03 pmrepublican Idiot sticks! – Torture helps our enemies! – Moron. Liar. Sicko.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:03 pmSo Lie-berman knows all about this how???? Maybe he’s watched every episode of “24″, so he really does understand the real world (inside his little, tiny brain).
April 21st, 2009 at 4:04 pmPeople of Connecticut, you really need to stop inflicting this brown-noser on the country.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:06 pmFirst a post on Feingold, and then on Lieberman… which direction do you think the country should move toward?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pmWow just when I thought he was done being an idiot…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:11 pmLieberman is associated with a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION, THE TERRORIST STATE OF ISRAEL. He is the enemy!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pmIf it is so effective why was it used so many times on these two people? It should have worked the first time, not having to use it over and over and over on them. Also what useful info did we get by using this torture? Show me those memos.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pmPlease explain exactly how this helps our enemies?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pmWaterboard Lieberman (I-diot) until he confesses what he did with Mike Spence (R-etard) & Lindsay Graham (L-iar).
I’ve heard of the mile high club, but Teabagging on a Plane?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pmIs Lieberman saying that the World Court at the Hague is our enemy?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pmcorrect me if i’m wrong, but these memos would have been released from the ACLU, who sued to get them, if not obama … not?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pmI wonder what Liebermann thinks about the ‘experiments’ that Nazis performed on Jews using similar logic.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:15 pmEntertainment?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pmSTFU, TRAITOR JOE!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pmPoor little shitheel Joe ain’t got no friends no more.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pmAllow me to offer this tortured logic about Joe Lieberman ……. with friends like Joe , who needs enemies .
April 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pmDoes releasing this info help U Joe ?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Who’s he bending over with his pants down for NOW?
I do believe we have a reasonable handle on LIEberman’s level of intelligence by now though. My low expectations have dissipated and I now have NO expectations.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pm*
It was already public knowledge that torture was used on detainees. Bush lied outright when he said “we don’t torture.” What in hell is this political whore talking about? OK, how about we waterboard Liebermann for an hour. Then again lets waterboard Liebermann and Rush together?? Then have them let us know if they still think it’s torture. They probably wouldn’t last 5 minutes!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pmhaving morons in congress helps our enemies.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pmJoe Leberman gives me Homeland (heimat) Insecurity .
April 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pmLike gluing the anus is not torture either? I have always thought Lieberman was a little ‘kooky’. I sure would like to see Lieberman’s direct facts that “waterboarding” prevented terrorist attacks?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pmThese guys need to get together and sort out their talking points.
Most foreign policy hawks are claiming that disclosure of these documents somehow damages our national security. Then Cheney announces that ALL of the documents should be disclosed.
Extending the logic of the GOP, this should result in the end of Western civilization. It’s Y2K all over again. Start stocking up on batteries, bullets, and Spam now!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pmHey Joe, please explain to me the Messod AGENTS that were arrested on 9/11??? The were caught after someone called in seeing three men on the hood of a white van, filming the collapse of WTC and cheering. Why would someone cheer when at that time, no one knew who was responsable unless they had an idea. Why were the NYPD forced to release these men Joe?????
Why was the WTC shut down two weeks before 9/11 for a building blackout with no warring to the tenants of WTC ??? Warrings are given months in advance so companies that have 24h computer systems can make arrangements to divert the computer access off site. Why wasn’t anyone allowed in the building during the weekend black out Joe????
It’s starting to slip….and a lot of people will be hanging as the truth slowly comes out….don’t worry, the truth will come out. What are you going to say then Joe????? WHO’S HELPING WHO JOE????
April 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pmA number of people were actually killed during these “enhanced” sessions. Many more are now mentally insane. Joe, is this your definition of “a psychological impact” on these people? You are indeed in the minority on this Joe. Why do you so hate the rule of law Joe. Can you answer that?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pmWho have we become that this is even debated. I grew up believing that this is the type of thing that the evil Soviet Union did, or the Vietnamese…and that our principals are why we would be stronger and prevail.
I grew up believing that Right makes Might, not the other way around.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pmCONFESSION TIME! I didn’t vote in the 2000 election. I know… I know… I know… I’ve never voted for a repub! I NEVER WILL! In that election I was not excited about either possibility. I admit it: Joe Lieberman being on the Dem ticket turned me off! I don’t like him and I never have.
The old saying “if you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all” does apply to voting too, or so I feel anyways. So, if I can’t vote for the Dem I vote for nobody – rare that I do this but it has happened on that one occasion.
Okay now you all know my dark secret. Honestly though, he’s not a dem at all! LIEBERMAN IS A REPUBLICAN! CT needs to kick him the hell out! He’s useless!
BTW – I didn’t live in Florida at the time, or any swing state for that matter so I promise you the 8 years of Bush aren’t my fault.
Don’t hate me guys and gals =(
April 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pmHerr Lieberman is one of the enemy. If this tool is against it, then it is by definition good. Herr Lieberman needs to be waterboarded 183 times in one month.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pmIt’s wierd – the MSM has had a script written in stone that politics always equals Dems vs. Rethugs, for so long they are clueless what to do without republicans. Even now as the republicans taint, weaken, discrace, and obstruct the political process, there isn’t even a hint of a change of MSM format – not even a wisper of an alternative conservative political party. What’s going on?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pmslippery Says:
the good senator is right on this one.
Except there is no proof it worked. You can take Gen Hayden’s word, after the lie has already been exposed?
That tells me you care little for our servicemen, who now have no moral standing if they themselves are tortured.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pmIt’s nice to see that Lieberman is consistently terrible whether his bff is running for President or not.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmWhat a F**kard, even the Gestapo didn’t waterboard!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmJob Lieberman provides greedership and bleedership. He’s an appalling example.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmEvery time Lieberman opens his mouth a spews crap, Americans can thank Harry Reid for keeping this d-bag in the Senate in such “high esteem”. Somebody should ask Reid WTF?????
April 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmslippery Says:
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
Insanity has little to do with it.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmWhat? We were warned many times by intelligence agencies, without interrogation, national and foreign, that attacks were planned.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmIf Lieberman caucuses with the Dems wtf is he giving Greta Van Scientology the time of day for????
April 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pmoh, and for some delightful levity:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=223883&title=Full-Metal-Budget
jon stewart’s famous impersonation of deputy dawg himself…
it doesn’t last near long enough, and not till 3:40ish, but such a good laugh, worth the look…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pmOk…Joe, tell us how following the law helps our enemies…empty lies…I say, let’s waterboard Joe and see how he feels about it in the morning…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pmSo when exactly did we get so called good reliable information from these guys?was it the 1st,50th,100th,150th or the last water boarding that they finally relented and gave us good reliable information…….when will these A$$hole$ realize we signed the Geneva Convention and to uphold it and the obligations that go along with it.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmslippery Says:
Many more are now mentally insane.
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
Is Cheney insane? Rumsfeld? Rove? The Master of all Barbaric Terrorists: BUSH……is he insane? Or maybe just plain EVIL ???
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm“… President of the United States, as commander in chief, has a right to decide what kind of tactics to use…” What the hell!? Does this Nazi wannabe think the President of the United States has dictator powers? He thinks torture should be used if it will provide information to stop another 9/11, but where do you draw the line with this reasoning? Would killing someone’s child in front of them be acceptable if it would stop another attack? What about killing a suspect’s entire family? At what point do we say it isn’t worth it with this line of reasoning?
I say those that support this torture face the moral principle of universality. This principle states simply that what is good for others is good for us and what is wrong for us is wrong for others. If this is so good for us to do to others, it must be good for others to do to us. When these torture supporters stand up and say it is okay for American citizens and soldiers to be tortured if arrested or captured by another country, they might have an argument. But until then, all they are doing is admitting to everyone that they have the morality of a Nazi.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmMany more are now mentally insane.
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
Bush and Cheney for starters…..
April 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmThe fact is that the Bush admin lied to the people on numerous occasions that “America does not torture”
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You really should put I think in front of your opinion because that is what Lieberman is doing, opining.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmladybastet Says:
CONFESSION TIME! I didn’t vote in the 2000 election.
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Don’t hate me guys and gals =(
April 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
It’s a good thing the SCOTUS stole the 2000 election, or you’d have a heap of explaining to do, little missy!
:-D
April 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pmJoe Lieberfu*k, another Fox Noise mouth piece! How did he get re-elected? John McShame’s sidekick, not a Dem, Not an Indep., he’s a “put me to sleep” REPUBICAN. I just wonder who bent Lindsey Graham over more, John or Joe?
My favorite interview with Joe was on Face The Nation (pre-2008 election) where he was talking about his “buddy” John McCain and he told the truth, that “John cares more about his party, ooops I meant his country”…
April 21st, 2009 at 4:49 pm:-D
I know. >.< *CRINGE*
April 21st, 2009 at 4:51 pmAnd all Joe can come up with is the “24″ hypothetical to support his simple-minded position??
Since when is it a good idea to make rules based on extraordinary exceptions? If we did, then “investment banking” would never have been allowed, because of the chance of a Madoff or Stanford case developing.
Why do so many have such trouble reaching the logical conclusions of these arguments – none of this crap should pass anyone’s giggle test in the first place.
I’d sooner trust that an agent who knew he was involved in one of these ticking clock scenarios simply conclude “screw the rule this time”. Really, isn’t that how it would work in real life? – and if we grant the ridiculous premises this argument rests on, wouldn’t we still either get the desired result or fail trying?
There is too much time and energy being spent on these preposterous WATB jabberings. Too much pandering to ignorance and emotion, and too little TCB.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pmPossible Translation of Lie-berman’s statement:
The release of the OLC memos shows me to be a liar.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pmI’m still wrestling with the logic that until GW was in the White House, the country managed to survive without using torture. NOW all of a sudden it is needed.
Guess what, Joe, torture isn’t just about physical. But then, you know that. You are just a spineless apologist.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pmslippery Says:
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
April 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
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Yeah. All of them.
They may be zealots, they may be misguided, they may be brimming with anger, but they are not insane. Believing that terrorism is a product of insanity is a FUNDAMENTAL misunderstanding of its cause.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pmAs usual, JoeL proves he never served in combat and neither have any of his family. Or he would never say these idiotic things. Hell, even his butt-hole buddy, McCain is against it!
That is cowardice to the extreme.
Connecticut must be SOOOOO F’ING PROUD!!!!
April 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pmWho is he referring to when he says “our” enemies? America’s enemies? Israel’s enemies? The enemies of those who suck up to the rabid right wing? I really have no idea what he meant by that, and all three choices refer to completely different groups.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pmslippery Says:
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:02 pmI wonder if Joe realizes that he is a terrorist.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmHe should be impeached!
This time with snark:
slippery Says:
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Paul Revere, etc…
April 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmLast year, Lieberman downplayed the severity of waterboarding, saying, “It is not like putting burning coals on people’s bodies.” In February, he joked about the torture tactic at Washington’s Alfalfa dinner.
Yeah, but putting burning coals on peoples’ bodies isn’t like supergluing their anus shut and forcing them to drink a diarrhea-causing agent, so I guess that’s OK too.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:04 pmslippery Says:
you’re saying you know some terrorists that AREN’T mentally insane?
As opposed to PHYSICALLY insane? you’re being redundant, again, slick slippery, you must be a stupid republican…
April 21st, 2009 at 5:05 pmWhat about those soldiers that were made to leave the military (kicked out)? The ones that we were shown making those detainees stand around naked and other stuff. Remember it happened about 5 or 6 years ago? What should we do about their situation? Werent they just following orders?
April 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pmThey were little people. Working Class grunts get nothing but comtempt from the ruling class.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pmHey, slippery, just what is sane about a government that turns its back on decades of jurisprudence and standards and suddenly says torture is not only ok but legal?
If you want to study insanity, take a look at all the good folks who changed their minds.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pmSo since Lieberman believes that the end justifies the means, then I guess he’s willing to forgive Hitler and Nazis in Germany because in the end Jews got Israel and he’s now a US Senator
April 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pmLieberman helps enemies every time he criticizes the president (a Republican talking point from the Bush years). These Republican losers think we’ve all forgotten their vicious attacks on anyone who even remotely criticized the Bush admin. Guess what? We have audio & video proof, you dolts!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pmAnd I’m already so sick of Repubs saying that by being honest, and by living by global laws, we are “helping the enemies”. Holy Mother of God, these jerks have no shame, no conscience, no understanding whatsoever about how each time the U.S. breaks those laws, the U.S. condones the same treatment by rogue countries. Republicans, therefore, obviously hate the troops & are fine with them being tortured. Pathetic.
I wonder how long Joe LIEberman would hold up under torture.
He claims to know better what constitutes torture than the CIA and all worldwide organizations of experts in such matters.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pmDoes he think that othre nations did not know what we had been doing? Does he think these were secrets that had not been exposed by many news organiztions? Does he think everyone is as ignorant as he? Or is he just pandering to the Americans who are so.
His whining and criticizing is not flattering to him, nor helpful to the nation — he must just dry up and fly away.
very well stated:
Comment by Brad Olson, Ph.D., Research Professor, Northwestern University
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&btcid=f668ff702c6aecbf
April 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pmWe have met the enemy, and he is us.
Will they EVER stop using that bullsh*t ticking time bomb scenario ? It doesn’t exist.
Is he saying that America should use every dirty, abhorent,
barbaric act, in secret, so that no one can be held accountable ?
I think Reagan already tried that.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:46 pmLIEberman is an agent for Israel. He is a traitor!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pmJoe Lipstick never served in the Military so he wouldn’t know. Now Joe see’s no problem in torturing kids and woman. Joe better stay home for now on and not go overseas as they might show him how waterboarding works. Now his buddy Miss Graaham might light it because he’s kinky.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:50 pmI wondered the same thing as well, ElBruce. After all, some people would consider France, or Spain, or even Canada enemies.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:00 pmAs I’ve said before, Joe has become a “a shandeh far di goyim.”
April 21st, 2009 at 6:01 pmReleasing these torture memos helps Joe Lieberman? Huh.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pmSo I guess Joe approves of the way some of his co-religionists were tortured by the Nazis in the 1930s/40s? After all, a doctor WAS present for some of the more extreme measures.
Unbelievable.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pmLast year, Lieberman downplayed the severity of waterboarding, saying, “It is not like putting burning coals on people’s bodies.
Like they did to Jews during the Inquisition? Joe can’t help playing the victim card. No matter what kind of torture is revealed, he still believes “his people” were tortured worse.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:13 pmJoe is such a rethuglican when it comes to the illegal and immoral and unnecessary war in Iraq.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:21 pmJoe the shmoe says it helps our enemies? Then it must be the best thing we can do.
Go back to the Lollypop Guild.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:41 pmPLEASE understand that Connecticut is as embarrassed by Lieberman as the US has been by Bush.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:47 pmI was working as a poll watcher in 2006 when his supporters in New Haven dragged retirees to machines they couldn’t operate, and voted on their behalf.
All you have to know about Joe is that, when his party nominated a candidate who wasn’t him, he criticized anyone in the party for NOT supporting HIM.
Joe will do ANYTHING to advance his own career – all you have to know is that he ran for VP on BOTH tickets (and never risked his Senate seat at any time).
Joe and I were talking just the other day about psychological damage versus permanent physical and I tell you, he may appear to be a whiny, weak, cowardly pussy, and maybe he is, but he has obviously though A LOT about these:
Put them in a pot of water and raise the temperature until their body temperature is high enough to cause them to pass out. When they cool off, they show no signs, but they sure remember it.
Then put them in a freezer naked and lower the temperature until their hearts stop. With a good doctor handy and a shot of adrenalin, they will come right back around. Purely psychological.
Then put them in a pressure chamber and take them down to 200 feet below surface and crack the chamber. The bubbles in the joints hurt like crazy, ha, ha, ha. Repressurize them and the psychological scars will never show.
Oh that Joe, he went on all night.
Fck the torturers and their enablers.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:51 pm24, please, do your country a service. End your series with an episode where Jack Bauer gets electrocuted in a waterboarding mishap, and then he lives long enough to make a deathbed speech denouncing torture.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:13 pmJoe’s black fascist heart is starting to show.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:20 pmAAAARGGHHH.
We tortured innocent people who had been sold into a system of slavery in which they were prisoners for the purposes of propaganda.
link
April 21st, 2009 at 7:28 pmHey Joe, you know what else helps our enemies?? Insufferable idiots like you, who get free face and microphone time from our equally insufferable media who couldn’t report the sun rising without spinning it somehow.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:43 pmThe people of Connecticut need to vote this clown out.
April 21st, 2009 at 7:52 pmQuestion:
April 21st, 2009 at 8:11 pmWhat specific or general crime did the advising lawyers commit when they legally submitted the torture memos that triggered acts of torture?
This quote really says it all:
Why is the requirement for telling the truth that the revelation somehow helps us?
The test for secrecy versus openness is that there needs to be a compelling reason to keep it secret, not that there needs to be a compelling reason for truth.
We should not be OK with our government keeping things secret just because they’re uncomfortable. I was enormously gratified when Obama described the process by which he determined to release the memos. Failing to find a compelling reason to keep them classified, he did was required in response to the FOIA filing – he released them.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:27 pmDisfuntional families continually repeat their sickness until someone steps up and admits that there is a problem to fix. The administration has brought to the forefront a problem within our agency that seems to be the result of some questionable legal advise. It is proper to investigate and prosecute those responsible to avoid that dysfunction to repeat itself. The rethugs are not bigger than the United States of America, no matter what their delusionary thoughts may tell them.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm32 slippery Says:
Some terrorists probably are insane, but the percentages of terrorists that are insane are about the same as in the population in general. There is no correlation between being a terrorist and a person’s sanity. This is one of the many logical fallacies the wingnuts push with their propaganda machine.
Terrorists are just people that have no other means to fight. If we were in their position, we would use the same tactics are they are using. That’s the crux of the fallacy. Terrorists aren’t some kind of genetic mutant, they are people who are religious ideologues, and because of their extreme ignorance, they lash out with tactics we don’t like.
Republicans are much like the terrorists they like to point fingers at. Terrorists are religious fanatics and Republicans are religious fanatics. Terrorists use immoral tactics to advance their agenda, Republicans use immoral tactics to advance their agenda.
Fortunately, Republicans haven’t resorted to violence yet, but with their talk of secession, and their recruiting of militants, we can expect the Republicans to use more violent terrorist style tactics in the near future.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:39 pmYes Levi, now we must get republicans to take this to heart. Then they can take measures to dissapear into the past.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:54 pmLet’s see. According to the foreign policy hawks, torture works, but the CIA doesn’t torture. But if they did, it would work and save lives. And lives were saved, but torture wasn’t used. Huuuuuh?
Furthermore, these same folks insist that the CIA interrogation documents are no big deal and are much to do about nothing, yet out of the other side of their mouths they claim that disclosure about interrogation techniques involving “torture” will jeopardize national security.
How can these documents be both trivial and inconsequential and a threat to the nation at the same time? You cannot have it both ways.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:15 pmpuppax,
There can only be one of two reasons the President couldn’t find a compelling reason to keep them secret:
1) He is simply inexperienced and naive and lacking any common sense
or
2) He did it intentionally with some political motive in mind.
What he did was wrong, plain and simple.
April 21st, 2009 at 9:56 pmIsn’t it funny how Cheeney, the man who most likely signed off on the acts of torture is being quoted without reference to that fact in the media. What’s going on Wolf? What’s the situation in The Situation Room when you can’t ask the former vise president if he was the one that signed off on the bloody torturings?! Just ask the guy or give up jounalism.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:02 pmslippery Says:
the good senator is right on this one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
No he isnt. You two fascists just WISH the president were a King.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:03 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Your post is ignorant and so are YOU, plain and simple
April 21st, 2009 at 10:06 pmLIEBERMAN: Well, I take a minority position on this. Most people think it’s definitely torture. The truth is, it has mostly a psychological impact on people. It’s a terrible thing to do. … I want the president of the United States in a given circumstance where we believe somebody we’ve got in our control may have information that could help us stop an attack, an imminent attack on the United States like 9/11 or, god forbid, worse, we ought to be able to use something like waterboarding.
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What can you read into this? A hypothetical case is extrapolated to a ridiculous point. This policy has provided a sick group in our country satisfaction in extracting revenge on the Islamic terrorist movement. The Bush Administration had to provide the voter with a sense that “something was being done”.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pmThe legacy of the Bush torture is frightening. Contrary to Lieberman, there is no room for justification.
What the Bush Administration has done has severely tied the hands of the Presidents that follow. As a nation we will be less willing to extend the “benefit of the doubt” to the office of president, and this runs contrary to the basic argument Lieberman is trying to make.
There can only be one of two reasons the President couldn’t find a compelling reason to keep them secret:
1) He is simply inexperienced and naive and lacking any common sense
Maybe he believes in transparency?
2) He did it intentionally with some political motive in mind.
Your not freeing your mind
What he did was wrong, plain and simple.
Thats an opinion. Torture is not new in its methods therefore these memos mean nothing.
Its spin.
We lead thru example or we dont lead at all.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:30 pmWe lead by example or we do not lead at all
April 21st, 2009 at 10:31 pmWhen Lieberman says “helps our enemies” he’s referring to liberal political opponents, not terrorists. But I guess in his vacuous little mind, they’re one and the same.
April 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pmWE LEAD BY EXAMPLE OR WE DO NOT LEAD
April 21st, 2009 at 10:37 pmI’m afraid Obama may be taking the let’s get along thing a little too far. This insect, Lieberman, is one Obama should have squashed back in January.
April 22nd, 2009 at 12:45 amLieberman = Arrested Development. He doesn’t think things through when it’s inconvenient. Releasing the OLC torture memos will help solve serious crimes. Lieberman needs to be reminded that torture has now officially ended in the US, so there are no torture secrets to keep anymore. This nation of laws thing is hard to get the hang of isn’t it mr LIEberman?
April 22nd, 2009 at 2:06 amJoe L is the most rarest case of ” Droopy-Dog Bi-Polarism”.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 amWith freinds like Joe Liebeman, who needs enemies.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 amLieberman is a rabid jew. he should be killed. his kind since the beginning of jew history have always had trouble and tribulation as constant companions. With the behavior of the “jew state” since 1948, it isn’t hard to understand. kill joe lieberman
tedbohne
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pmThe DAMNABLE MISERY of all this nonsense is that before the Bush family saw to the placement of their mentally challenged son in the offices of power, we didn’t have much to worry about GUERRILLA activities against the US. The US is guilty of committing TERRORISM against EVERY country in south and central America. Not to mention southeast asia, and many others. This government or cabal could ONLY EXIST IN THE PRESENCE OF STUPID PEOPLE. Intelligent people would have seen through these sick roaches in minutes. But not Americans. The lowest form of hominid life extant. Joe, or Jew sixpack, Jane dishwater and kids, no education, no ability to take care of their own production, and therefore attached to the tit of welfare. despite the fact these sorts of rif-raf count for only a small slice of the US budget, the stupidity they enjoy goes all the way to the top. There’s nothing great or worth emulating about america. This country began with genocide against the people that “owned” the lands, and has never stopped stealing, lying and murdering since. As The President’s preacher exclaimed and I TOTALLY AGREE: “GODDAMN AMERICA!”
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pm