Despite His Contempt For Public Opinion, Cheney Praises Tea Parties As ‘Healthy’ And Hopes They’ll Have ‘Impact’
Despite His Contempt For Public Opinion, Cheney Praises Tea Parties As ‘Healthy’ And Hopes They’ll Have ‘Impact’
In the second part of their interview last night, Fox News’ Sean Hannity asked former Vice President Dick Cheney to give his “overall analysis” on where President Obama is “taking the country economically.” “Well, I’m very concerned about it,” replied Cheney before heaping praise onto the anti-Obama tea parties held last week.
“I thought the tea parties were great,” said Cheney. He then expressed his view that if would be a “healthy” development if the demonstration of conservative “grassroots” opinion had an “impact” on the debate in Congress:
CHENEY: I think when you get that kind of grassroots sentiment being expressed, thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of people all across the country, that will have an impact on Capitol Hill. It will have an impact, I think, on the political process. And it’s basically a healthy development.
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Cheney’s praise for the tea parties is surprising considering his contempt for public opinion while in office. As Vice President, Cheney dismissed the the opinion of far more Americans when they disagreed with his administration’s policies:
CHENEY: On the security front, I think there’s a general consensus that we’ve made major progress, that the surge has worked. That’s been a major success.
RADDATZ: Two-third of Americans say it’s not worth fighting.
CHENEY: So?
RADDATZ So? You don’t care what the American people think?
CHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.
On February 15, 2003, millions of people across the globe, including up to 375,000 in New York City alone, protested the impending invasion of Iraq. President Bush, who Cheney has praised for not making policy “based on public opinion polls,” dismissed the protesters as “a focus group.”
According to statistics expert Nate Silver, roughly 300,000 people across the country participated in the tea parties. Apparently this was enough to convince Cheney that maybe public opinion should “have an impact” on policy.
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End of story.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:33 pmcheney thinks getting teabagged has a positive effect on people? may i suggest he slides under tub-o-lard lintballs, gets teabagged and then just STFU?
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmi think the most important thing is he just STFU.
Dick Cheney should teabag southwest Va.!
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmDick, to quote your former boss (or subordinate, depending on who you believe):
Who cares what you think?
Really? Who cares?
This side of NOBODY, loser.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pmpsssttttt,
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pmby the way “deadeye dick” by the time you left office, rectal cancer amongst gay men was more popular than you.
The same Cheney considers “healthy” to be three outings a day a McDonald’s! Don’t believe me? Ask his heart!
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmHundreds of thousands of people did not show up for the tea parties. It was more like 25,000 nationwide. Really not very impressive.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmJust as the right will criticize Obama for anything and everything, they will say anything, spin everything, and make any observation as long as it supports their selfish notions. They have no moral point of view or any firmly held beliefs except doing what they can to maintain power or reduce the power of those they do not agree with. Of course they appear to have one more goal, and that goal is new for them, keeping their stinking asses out of prision.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmThe same Dick who said that “deficits don’t matter” when the Bush tax cuts for the rich passed now says Obama is risking financial ruin by running a deficit. Yes America, The Dick does think you are stupid enough to believe him.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmThat was before, this is now. Cheney is a shameless liar and provocateur.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pmHey Dick — the teabagging parties have already had an impact. They’ve convinced even more American citizens that Faux Snooze and the right-wing fringe of the Rushpublican party are completely out of touch with reality…
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pmNews item: Richard B. Cheney is inconsistent, supporting positions only when they benefit him and not giving a crap about anybody when they don’t. More breaking news at 11.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pmOK, I’ll ignore the obvious hypocrisy of Cheney basically spitting on public opinion if he disagrees with it, and embracing it when he agrees.
Cheney is right that demonstration, protest, and dissent in general is “healthy” (as long as it isn’t conducted in a violent way — and the tea parties weren’t violent). I agree.
However, I think he’s dreaming when he thinks the tea parties will have any kind of impact on Capitol Hill. The biggest problem with the tea parties is that their message was so unfocused that even if lawmakers were paying attention, it would have been hard to sort out what the protesters were really saying.
What were they mad about, exactly? Virtually every GOP talking point was shouted out during the protests — everything from gripes about real situations to hysteria over imaginary ones. The resulting cacophony left only the impression that Republicans don’t like Obama AND Republicans are really good at parroting talking points from conservative pundits. And this isn’t exactly news. Furthermore, the only lawmakers likely to see the protesters’ side were the ones already in the conservative corner.
I don’t see much impact.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmCurrent US Population: 306,270,264
Total who showed up for Teabagging: 30,000 (being generous)
% of Americans who showed up for this protest: .0098%
Always play to your base, Dick.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmfox news is a blood sucking parasite that the United States can’t seem to pry loose with it’s pocket knife.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmTime to pull out the disposable lighter.
Won’t someone at least point out what the term “grassroots” means to these people? I don’t think it means what they think it means.
And yes, I think these teabagger parties have finally convinced a lot of Republicans that it really is time to get out of the party.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:48 pmLets end the useless banter from Dickhead Darth Cheney. Darth Cheney should be waterboarded, taped to his wheelchair and then shoved down a flight of stairs. I don’t mean that – it just makes me feel better typing it – LOL
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pmAfter he helped get our country into trillions of dollars of debt from 2 wars, Cheeeeeney has some nerve uttering one word about Obama’s economic policies.
timboimbo Says:
Hundreds of thousands of people did not show up for the tea parties. It was more like 25,000 nationwide. Really not very impressive.
I think we have to be fair to our own fact-finding here. How did you come upon these numbers?
I don’t believe any one tea party was sizable and by itself significant, aside from perhaps the Atlanta event, but there was a vast number of smaller parties out there. The fact there were 350 or so tea parties out there, I tend to doubt that each event had an average of less than 100 people at each.
The fact that there were so many tea parties probably affects the numbers if people had considered one big “tea party” like that of the “Million-Man March”. More sites means more opportunities to attend an event, but I wonder how many would have attended if it was all held at one site.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:53 pmSo?
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmThe sour grapes, sour losers who held their little pity party are made up of the low-information morons of society.
They were a real smart looking group (LOL), alot of inbreeding going on there.
There seemed to be a good many bigots there.
Fcuk the Republicans
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmCHENEY: No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls.
What part of elected to represent the PEOPLE does he not understand.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmThat is part of the problem in Washington.We dont need these A*holes telling us what is good for us.
Cheeney is in deep trouble, possibly even torturing to obtain false confessions. Let him talk. It’s up to law enforcement now, not up to his fellow republicans to save him, not up to public opinion, so let him wave his arms and indict himself he that’s what he wants to do.
Personally speaking, his voice now makes me want to throw up.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pmI think Cheney is getting fearful of the torture memos.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pmDick appears on his own cable channel again.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pmThe Ballad of DICK Cheney
Standing in an undisclosed location,
Trying to get out of Holland or France.
The man in the back said, “You’ve got to go back”.
You know they didn’t even give poor Dick a chance.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They’re gonna crucify Cheney.
Finally got the plane to the bunker,
Even Sung Yun Moon say’s he’s insane.
KKKArl Rove called to say,
“You can make it O.K.,
You can get a visa and get out of the country today”.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They’re gonna crucify Cheney.
Drove from undisclosed location to tarmac,
Been taking meds for a week.
The newspaper said, “Say what’s so fu(ked up in your head?”
He said, “I’m only trying to get me some peace”.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They’re gonna crucify Cheney.
Saving up his money for an invasion day,
Giving bio hazard suits to charity.
Last night his wife said,
“Cheney, when you’re dead
You don’t take nothing cause you ain’t got no soul… think!
Made a lightning trip to Argentina,
eating cake with Nazis was rad.
The newspaper said, “He’s lost his fu(kin head,
he looks just like Vader in black”.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
You know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They’re gonna crucify Cheney.
Caught the early plane back to D.C..
Fifty or so teabags mouthing a sack.
The men from the press said, “We wish you duress,
why the fu(k has your @ss come back”.
Christ you know it ain’t easy,
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pmYou know how hard it can be.
The way things are going
They’re gonna crucify Cheney.
The way things are going
They’re gonna crucify Cheney.
republicans hate facts Says:
All the tea parties did was show the country how out of touch and INSANE the GOP is! I think they should HOLD ANOTHER! ;)
Don’t give them any crazy ideas.
April 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pmlivelongandprosper Says:
lol !
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pmDickie Bird has his agenda and it has nothing to do with America or reality. It just has do do with money.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pmum… has anyone noticed, commented on, wondered aloud about
the man’s labored breathing?
he’s pretty sick…
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pmJebus. Those two idiots ought to just get a room and conduct their mutual masturb–er, *admiration society meeting* in private!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pmSo whazzup for the third, fourth and sixteenth parts of the interview? Just Cheney gettin some teabaggin from SeanSuckup?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pmJeez, this creep simply won’t shut up.
Maybe if we all concentrate real hard, we could set him on fire with our minds…
One can only hope…
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pmRighties keep bringing up the tea parties because they know hours after they ended everybody forgot about them. They were a failed attempt at protesting ANYTHING. Righties are the laughing stock of the world right now. I mean come on, not even 100,000 people? What a pathetic bunch of sore losers.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:10 pmCHENEY: I think you hit on a key point, Sean, because 9/11 was absolutely crucial.
Yes, yes it was.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 pmWhat more is there to say? Cheney doesn’t give a damn about the American people, not even the ones who elected him. I can easily conclude this because looking at the numbers it’s clear to me that the majority of people who voted for Bush and Cheney bitterly regret it now.
The man is evil. Even his own party is telling him to STFU because they know he’s so unpopular any public appearance is detrimental to them. He doesn’t even care what his party thinks.
When the only person in the country that cares what the hell you say is Sean Hannity you’re beyond redemption and should start thinking about leaving the country.
The only thing that has motivated him to start babbling on television is the revelation of horror the torture memos hold.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 pmIf Benedict Cheney had a shred of credibility left, his words might have some significance.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pmwe conservatives are a presumptuous bunch, hitting the easy button by labeling something successful as opposed to putting in the hard work that makes success a mere formality. If we have to lobby for something to be a success, it usually isn’t, but we don’t give a rats ass because our hatred of anything democrat keeps fuel in the tank.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pmInvestigate Chnney! Investigate 9/11!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:15 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
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It is well documented that attendance was over 700,000. You can see the attendance listed by location, state, etc…. here http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=tea-party
Show me a link to an unbiased site, not some conservative fringe lunatic website that SPONSORED JOE THE PLUMBER. Moron.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmUh, right. Obama had more people show up for the Easter Egg Roll (30K) on the White House lawn, than showed up nationwide for your precious teabaggin’ parties. PLEASE, have more!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
It is well documented that attendance was over 700,000. You can see the attendance listed by location, state, etc…. here http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=tea-party
You do realize that Pajamas Media is the same organization that sent Joe the “plumber” to Israel as a war correspondent, right? And that it was started by someone from Little Green Footballs?
Why would anyone take their word for anything?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmMr. Chaney, please explain to the American public how in your meeting with the energy companies prior to 9/11(which was private until such time you were forced to release a portion of information by the freedom of information act)you planed on how to distribute Iraq oil???
How is it that prior to 9/11 you knew you would have access to the oil fields????
Why is that you have the Air Force stand down durning the 9/11 attacks???? Why is it that for the first time in our history, we didn’t have intercepter planes in the air within 10min of a flight going off course???? Pane Stewart plane was intercepted with 10mins after going off course and that was before 9/11.
Mr. Chaney can you please explain the American public where you were during the attacks and whom were you conversing with???? Why did you and the President have to testify together that the hearings of the offical events of 9/11???
and before I go….please explain to the American people why your administration did not have any hearings/investigations (in the congress or senate) or commission into the facts about 9/11???
One day the facts will prove you and your friends were behind 9/11. Don’t worry, we know it was the Messod agents who went in to the WTC two weeks before 9/11 under the guise of building maintance (Building Blackout)for which no one was allowed to be in the building during that time. We have put the pieces of the puzzle together. Oh by the way…we know it was connetic energy that set of the charges in between floors. I guess thats how certain people knew that building 7 was coming down 5 hours after the first plane hit. Mr. Chaney, it’s funny how a building could fall that was only minimally damaged on two floors.
We know all the lies you F***en Pig Mr. Chaney!!!!!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pmI can just hear Rove whispering in his ear, “And make sure you say ‘dangerous’ a lot.”
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmIs it possible that Cheney is suffereing from a mental disorder?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pmThis in addition to his sociopathic misanthropy.
I did, he breathes like he has heart failure.
I hope he lives long enough to be scared.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pmDocumented by Pajama TV? The same people who sent Joe the Plumber to Israel? You’re kidding right?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
The fact that the Center for American Progress spends so much time focusing on the Tea Parties, attempting in vain to minimize them, proves just how significant they were. Please, don’t stop.
The problem I see with this argument is that it should apply to both sides of the fence. Neil Cavuto repeatedly shot down the Million-Man March for being less than a million men. Is this repeated reminder and coverage by Cavuto to deflate the numbers a sign that it too was as significant as the tea parties?
I’m probably in the minority here that considered the tea parties to be both significant in overall number and not completely “astroturf”, but I again stress that the numbers probably would have been quite low if it were to be held in one place.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pmCONforprogress
More reality-based numbers. PJTV, like cavuto, likes to multiply anything by 3. If they were so well attended, and will have such impact, why the need to pad the numbers?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pmkatydid Says:
um… has anyone noticed, commented on, wondered aloud about
the man’s labored breathing?
he’s pretty sick…
They’re talking about torture. Why do you think the camera only shows him from the neck up.
Sick yes, but not in the physical sense.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pmDoes the PJ stand for psuedo-journalism?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:23 pmdick cheney was a former vice president, secretary of defense, halliburton CEO and now a multimillionaire and you liberals are basement dwelling thugs clamoring for what he’s earned!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pmI guess Cheney is into his “opposite-day world” now. First he wants classified memos declassified, and now he truly cares about the tea parties and believes they will have significant impact. Whereas, 67% of American people (67/100) indicated that the Iraq war was no longer worth fighting, he could only say “So?” But now that a whole 1% of the American people (if Silver’s estimates are correct) attended the tea parties, nationwide…THAT will have impact, in his mind.
Bush and Cheney often said there was “evil in the world.” What they didn’t clarify, nor recognize in themselves perhaps, is that the evil was within themselves.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pmthe current veep is a sham! he isn’t even vice-presidential, just a random senate toad who can’t even speak proper English and lacks the credentials of his predecessor!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pmAlex, I’ll have “Grasping for Straws” for $1000 please.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmIt is well documented that attendance was over 700,000. You can see the attendance listed by location, state, etc…. here http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=tea-party
That’s funny. The figures I’ve seen indicate the number is less than half that, but let’s say for argument’s sake that it was 700,000. That’s a relatively small number considering that John McCain got 59,934,814 votes in the 2008 election. That’s a very small fraction. I’m sure none of those present were people who voted for Obama with the exception of observers. The latest Gallup poll shows Obama’s Job Approval at 64%. That figure of 700,000 doesn’t look like anything to worry about.
So, we can say that the increasingly unpopular Republican Party can only manage to rally 300,000-700,000 people to protest despite all the advertising they did on FOX News and conservative radio (grassroots my butt!). I don’t know about the other liberals on TP, but I’m feeling pretty good about the midterms next year.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pmYou’re right. It’s been proven that Biden has a heart.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pmHell yeah we are! He’s earned himself a nice cozy jail cell where all his money won’t mean a damn thing when people will be lining up for a chance to shank him.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
We are already scheduled for at least 412 cities on July 4th. The freedom movement is growing. Thanks again for the free publicity.
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you wimps have competition.
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(and they have guns)
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April 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pmgood luck to you conservative for progress, if we can get a movement back out there and reinstall home-cooked conservative leadership.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pmIs it just me, or does anyone else get the feeling watching and listening to Chuckles, that he’s running a bit scared?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pmGreat, conservatives once again going all phoney baloney on how they love America. By talking about sucession, taxation WITH representation, etc. Isn’t your time and effort better spent fielding candidates that might win elections? The majority of Americans have spoken in the ‘06 and ‘08 elections that the Republicans offer nothing to better their lives. The fact that the fringe of that party can’t take the results of that democratic process in stride, shows just how intellectually vacant they are. Waaahhh, I’m going to piss and moan and cry on the floor until I get my way. Grow up for crying out load. We’ve had to listen to your BS for 8 LONG years about how great your policies are and how strong they make this country. Look around, they failed. You really want 8 more years of that? Talk about torture. You all are a masochistic bunch.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pmbiden has a heart? man gives a few cents to charity! his children and grandchildren are freakin’ spoiled, nice influence there!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pmThe essence of Richard Bruce Cheney is snarling dick.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pmnp, yeah, it’s a bummer when you’re wife is killed in a tragic accident and you have to raise kids on your own…
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pmIs that anything like moonshine?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
We are already scheduled for at least 412 cities on July 4th. The freedom movement is growing. Thanks again for the free publicity.
So everybody who celebrates the 4th of July is going to be claimed as attendance numbers for your movement? That’s a good way to work around the low-attendance problem, but a real bad way to distinguish your movement from pro-American sentiment in general. Hint: celebrating freedom on the 4th of July has already been around. You aren’t inventing it.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pmDick, Dick, Dick –
Whyd’ya have to be
So utterly preDicktable,
With such transparency;
Dick, Dick, Dick –
Just like when you waited
Two days to report a face-hunt
No trace, then, of breath, beer-bated;
Dick, Dick, Dick –
Just like Goofus in old “Highlights,”
You always choose wrong or evil;
Never a thought to others’ clear rights.
Dick, Dick, Dick –
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmIt’s time for you to say
“Good-bye” to public “service”
And start hangin’ with Kenneth Lay.
CFP, how does posting this information on tea parties publicize them? How many people that access this website do you think are conservative, and how many people do you believe will be swayed into going to tea parties by accessing this site?
I’d rather celebrate the freedom our country currently has enjoyed for the past 233 years on July 4th.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmElBruce dear I love you, but that was not an image I needed. >.< YYYYYUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKYYYYY!!!!!
/shudders
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmWow, you know the Biden’s children and grandkids? Typical. Attack the children. You’re right when you say he lacks the credentials of his predecessor. He has respect for the Constitution vs. Cheney’s disregard for it.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:40 pmAnd I will take Biden’s parenting skills over Cheney any day. You obviously don’t know his background to say something so ignorant.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:42 pmThank you #70, beat me to it.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pmThe teabaggers and the gun freaks will spend July 4th demonstrating?
Oh good, less boat traffic on the lake to contend with! I’ll have a beer for you.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pmwags wants bigger government to give the impression that he cares about humanity, when all he/she wants is an easy paycheck! libs like wags dont do anything for anybody, they just need people to feel below them! I care for humanity straight to the action – charity – not surrendering my liberties to politicians who mortgage my life away saying it’ll all happen someday under the rainbow!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:45 pmthose biden granddaughters will grow up to be limo libs!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pmPlease explain this great oppression you’ve have been living under for THREE months. Obama says he wants to roll the taxes for the highest earning 2% back to the 39% it was under Clinton, vs. the 36% under Bush? Man, that 2% totally owns your asses to get you to protest policies that will get YOU a tax cut. They laugh at you dumb sheep.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmcheney has two very successful, humble, down-to-earth daughters! did he disown his daughter because she’s a lesbian? NO!
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmI don’t need the government for that.
Who doesn’t want an easy paycheck?
Oh, you know me personally then? Let’s get coffee and talk it over.
Projection or inferiority complex? Hard to say with this mental giant…
What the hell does ’straight to the action’ mean?
Explain what liberties, in detail, to which you’re referring. Or even make the slightest shred of sense.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pmneoparody Says:
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those biden granddaughters will grow up to be limo libs!
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Say, wouldya look further into that crystal ball and see if it predicts Cheney rotting away? Looks like you’ve got a real talent there for telling the future; how ’bout working on the present, which is a sack of doo-doo, compliments of Cheney and his able-bodied ASSistant, Georgie.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pmUm, he doesn’t OWN her in the first place. But he certainly doesn’t believe she and her partner should be allowed to be married and have all the civil benefits that come with it.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pmYour name suits you. You are a parody. Nice defense of Cheney, troll.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm***
it’s sad when
conservatives try to be funny.
:(
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pmSo is neoclown lamenting the fact that Biden’s children aren’t gay? Huh?
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pmkeyboard commando libs, get productive please! I hope the ‘recession’ is not your excuse to bum around. people like me know when it’s time to recharge their batteries, libs always overcharge.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:56 pmIrony: never an ally of the tragically unfunny.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pmDick Cheney, that 5 draft deferment, shooting-friend-in-the face, the VP isn’t in the Executive or Legislative branch, torture endorsing, Constitution trashing, 9/11 warning ignorer, is actually a paragon of virtue. Wow, thanks for clearing that up.
April 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pmActually my house is worth 23% more than it was 2 years ago.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pmYou really are some kind of enlightened thinker to convince yourself that the economic meltdown was the Democrats fault. It was the policy of the President and his administration that got us to this point. And do a little bit of research on ‘Republican Obstructionism’ in Congress since those elections. The democrats didn’t have a majority and Bush VETOED legislation they tried to pass. He denied there was a recession.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 pmConservativesforprogress says:
“Simple question for the voters: Are we better off now than we were two years and three months ago?”
I’m asking you this question in all sincerity: Do you honestly believe that all the numbers you posted above are the results of the Obama administration’s policies?
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:05 pmI wonder….has anyone thought of starting an Americans for Obama campaign to counter the right-winger nutcase issue?
Schedule it for the 4th of July, to go along with the ‘1 million man march’ (snicker) by the gun nuts and the Tea Party Part DUH (:-)) by the conservonuts. Most of us should be free that day, what with holidays and all, and we could, across the country, gather in small groups. We’d need to do something like have a shirt or pin or sign to show our support for Obama. No major campaigns, nothing from the Obama administration and supporting organizations, just us networking through our contacts and bringing our friends and families along. Hell, nothing big or grandiose either. Just us having a quiet summer gettogether and expressing our support for Obama. Then let’s see how many more people are expressing their support of the US and Obama’s attempt to fix her compared to the Tea-Party Useful Idiots. And what do you want to bet that if the idea takes off and they get shut out like the idiots they are, they’ll accuse us of astroturfing? :-D
Funny how the roles reverse, eh? And how easily the Republicans adopt the roles they say that the Democrats occupied before the shift of administrations.
*sigh* Partisan Political BS sucks.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:05 pmSo conservatives like you know when your batteries, and ideas, are dead. Good to know, but when it’s been drained so far down, it can’t be jumpstarted again. Stay in your robe, in your Mom and Dad’s basement. But please remember to do your chores for your allowance.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Conservatives are looking forward to the mid-term elections and the next Republican Revolution. Democrats took control of the House and Senate [with a miniscule margin] on January 4, 2007. [For the next two years, GWB still held the veto pen and Democrats lacked a veto-proof majority, thus were unable to progress their agenda.]
Fixed it for you, fool.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pmYou know, it used to me a lot more interesting when Bu$h was in power. At least the refu(klitards had the excuse of defending their president.
Now, it’s like trying to talk to a 4 year old child that found his hippy uncle’s acid stash and then fell down a rabbit hole.
They simply do not operate in reality. That’s not meant as an insult. It’s a sad reflection on a lot of Americans. How did we ever produce such complete fu(kwits?!?!
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pmOMG CFP, you just don’t grasp the concept, do you? You do realize this mess didn’t happen overnight, right? You do realize that the GOP obstructed legislation from that period to an unheard of degree, right?
Have you no shame? Have you not the guts to man up and take responsibility for your party’s failures?
Don’t you want this country to succeed? Why are you being so unpatriotic?
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Citizen_pain: Democrats have controlled Congress since January, 2007 and the economy has tanked under their watch. Are you better off economically now than you were in January, 2007? For most Americans, the answer will be a resounding, “NO!” Vote the bastards out.
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you should have another tea party.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pmCFP, please don’t ignore the executive branch when presenting your numbers. If you’re going to blame Congress, blame all of Congress and blame the Republican executive branch. Checks and balances, my friend.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 pmSee…Cheney honestly believes that he’s like all the other great Presidents who had to make hard leaderhip choices…he really believes (is delusional) he’s of the same playing field with the great ones in our history! Cheney is dangerous because he can easily be diagnosed as someone with, “anti-social personality disorder” for which there is only on cure; isolation, like prison, or serious confinement so he can prey on others, conduct his way of life out in society.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pmHe didn’t think they should be limited to “free speech” cages?
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmWhy would we give the Republicans credit for the economic recovery?
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
“By the time of the mid-term elections, Democrats will have controlled both houses of Congress for nearly 4 years, and the White House for nearly 2 years. Will you still be blaming the Republicans?”
We’ll likely have forgotten them by then.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:29 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
By the time of the mid-term elections, Democrats will have controlled both houses of Congress for nearly 4 years, and the White House for nearly 2 years. Will you still be blaming the Republicans?
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how long were the republicans in charge?
what were their economics policies?
did they de-regulate business?
what was enron?
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April 22nd, 2009 at 5:29 pmwags Says:
“Our houses were worth 40% more.”
“Actually my house is worth 23% more than it was 2 years ago.”
I bought mine for 40,000 four years ago, it was appraised this year at 140,000.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm(Beause I worked hard on it, not because of some inflated housing bubble.)
O.o
ouch ><
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:33 pmOh sorry I misread 40,000 as 400,000…
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 pmThat’s awesome, congrats. I bought mine at 268,000, added a powder room and did some other renovations and recently appraised at 330,000.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:35 pmCheney’s statement is only true when used to the fact that we voted him into office.
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pmDick Cheney is totally consistent, he didn’t care what the two-thirds of Americans thought about the war and he doesn’t care about the two thirds of America who thought the Tea Baggers were idiots.
If Two Thirds of Americans support anything, you can be sure old Dick “Dead Ender” Cheney will be against it…
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
99. gumble-brains. Which of George Bush’s measly 8 vetoes that were not over-ridden do you contend tanked the economy? Stem-cell? No? Which one? Please be specific.
Doesn’t matter whether he vetoed them or not, dummy. If you plan on blaming the Democrats, you’ll have to explain how they got all those nefarious plans past the Republicans in Congress AND a Republican President. Were they all just napping for two years?
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pmwags Says:
Oh sorry I misread 40,000 as 400,000…
That would have been some serious destruction….
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:01 pmI’m glad I didn’t add a powder room.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmDick Cheney’s philosophy on friendships:
If I agree with you, and you agree with me, then we can be friends. (No guarantee here, but it could happen. Or, Dick could just shoot you in the face with a 12-gauge.)
If we don’t agree – well, then just go eff yourself.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Citizen_pain: Democrats have controlled Congress since January, 2007 and the economy has tanked under their watch. Are you better off economically now than you were in January, 2007? For most Americans, the answer will be a resounding, “NO!” Vote the bastards out.
Here is an educational link that I found just for you.
Here, hold this ticking bomb for me. BOOM! Hey, you blew up my bomb, you jerk!
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
Which of George Bush’s measly 8 vetoes that were not over-ridden do you contend tanked the economy?
The economy had been set up to be tanked over the preceding eight years. It’s called “deregulation.” Perhaps you’ve heard of it?
Which of the bills that the Democratic Congress passed after they got a majority do you contend tanked the economy? You’re the one trying to connect those dots, let’s see you connect them.
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pmBut the tea-baggers claim that they were protesting the TARP bail-outs which Cheney and Bush fully supported.
Oh, that’s right, the bail-out protests were simply a ruse to allow right-wingers an opportunity to spew hateful vitriol about Obama’s Administration.
April 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 pmMr. Cheney:
Respectfully, sir, please: close your mouth and stop talking. 75% of the American people care not a lick about your opinions, nor trust anything that comes out from between your flapping lips.
You have zero credibility on everything. If you and I were on an elevator together and you ripped one… I would doubt the stench.
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:00 pmYawwwnnn…no surprises here. C’mon, people…we all know by now (or at the very least, we should) what Cheney’s like. His choice of words and actions over the last eight years have made it more than apparent to anyone who was paying attention that he’s determined to approve of anything that his fellow neoconservatives do no matter what they do, and that he’s equally if not even more determined to condemn and criticize those who oppose or disagree with him even if they do similar things. In his own mind, any and all questions of ethics or propriety can be resolved by the application of a very simple formula — namely, Republicans = good/right/acceptable and Democrats = bad/wrong/unacceptable. The plain and simple fact is that he quite obviously cares far more about power than he ever has about the truth — so it’s only to be expected that he thinks public opinion ought to matter now whereas he didn’t think so while he was in office. This has nothing whatsoever to do with logic or fairness — it has everything to do with claiming a victory for his side, even if it means fighting dirty and breaking the rules. Why would anyone epect him to change his tune now?
April 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pmConservatives are looking forward to the mid-term elections and the next Republican Revolution. Democrats took control of the House and Senate on January 4, 2007.
The DOW was at 12,500 (7,900 now)
Unemployment was 4.6% (8.5% now)
Our houses were worth 40% more.
Simple question for the voters: Are we better off now than we were two years and three months ago? — ConservativeForProgress
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Ironic then, isn’t it, that although the economy had already started heading south well before the 2008 elections…the voters decided to increase the Democratic majority in both house of Congress and to put a Democrat in the White House?
Odd, that…
Even if you (rather too conveniently) choose to overlook the fact that the Democratic majority during the 100th Congress was slim at best in the House and nearly nonexistent in the Senate, you have apparently failed to perceive the fatal flaw in your own argument. By placing the blame for the failed economy — again, rather too conveniently — entirely at the feet of the Democrats, you inevitably imply that President Bush as well as the Republicans of the 110th Congress were collectively A) too apathetic, B) too ineffectual, C) too incompetent, D) too spineless, or E) a combination of the above to stop the big, bad Democrats. With all due respect, those qualities seem to directly contradict the image of Republicans which most conservatives like to promote. If you’re worried deep down that Republicans actually are too apathetic, ineffectual, incompetent, and spineless…then one is inclined to wonder why you insist on continuing to vote for them! No…the only reason why you’re so eager to blame all this mess on the Democrats is because you’re desperately trying to deflect whatever share of responsibility that the Republicans might in it — you know that as well as I do — and the only reason why you might be trying to deflect this responsibility is because if you can’t, you might have to admit that you were (*GASP*) wrong about something and might actually have to make changes and sacrifices that you don’t want to make.
Now that’s odd…what in the world gave me the idea that conservatives believe in taking personal responsibility when your own argument proves that they don’t?
Oh, that’s right! How could I have forgotten? Silly me…they only believe in it when it applies to other people.
April 22nd, 2009 at 10:21 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Please dont stop being a brainwashed moron. CAP didnt bring this up Cheney did you DOLT. I like the way people will read your posts and think oh my GOD these rightwingers are so stupid it would be insane to take them seriously. So keep spraying the stupid like a dog marking your territory. Nothing the left could do would be half as effective at discrediting you guys
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:23 pmlabman57 Says:
But the tea-baggers claim that they were protesting the TARP bail-outs which Cheney and Bush fully supported.
Oh, that’s right, the bail-out protests were simply a ruse to allow right-wingers an opportunity to spew hateful vitriol about Obama’s Administration.
In none of the protest pictures or videos did I ever see anything about TARP. Neither signage, nor anything said by any protestors.
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pmNeoparasite. Your display here today was even more pathetic than you usually are and that is pretty pathetic. That you have gotten even stuider is certainly an accoplishment. The fact is though that you have been begging us to pity you for a long time now and you have minde this vien out. No pity left. Beg all you want its dry. I suggest you begin to look for either a shred of self respect or massive doses of Haldol
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmI’m still interested in hearing which of the bills passed by Congress since January 2007 were responsible for the collapse of the economy.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 amAhh Yes… Obama, bringing the country together. What a load of crap! The country is more divided now than it ever was under Bush, and the division Bush caused was a hard act to follow! But go ahead, keep thinking he’s your saviour descended from the heavens then we can all suffer together. I would like to hope Democrats get everything they want: More taxes, bigger spending, more government regulations. The only problem is that when they get it we’re all screwed, not just the left.
April 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pmScaredtodeath Says:
Ahh Yes… Obama, bringing the country together. What a load of crap! The country is more divided now than it ever was under Bush
Just because 10% and shrinking of the population still refuses to see reason doesn’t mean we’re “more divided now.” No matter how “divided” from the mainstream you may be personally, we’re still less divided overall.
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Scaredtodeath Says:
But go ahead, keep thinking he’s your saviour descended from the heavens then we can all suffer together.
We aren’t the ones who keep saying that. It’s you guys who seem to be terrified that he might actually be the Messiah. Which is silly, ‘cuz he’s not.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:30 pmApril 28th, 2009 at 9:18 am