This afternoon on MSNBC, host David Shuster spoke with Newsweek columnist Jonathan Alter, who explained that while the popular political discourse has focused on one of two possible courses to resolve the Bush administration’s illegal acts of torture (a congressional or independent truth commission or criminal prosecutions), a third option also exists: impeachment. Alter noted that Federal Judge Jay Bybee is the only Bush administration torture architect still in public office and can be held to account through impeachment proceedings for his failing to “uphold the constitution”:
ALTER: There’s also a third route which would focus on the only one of these folks from the Bush White House who’s in public office now and that’s Federal Judge Jay Bybee. You could see, conceivably, a movement to impeach Judge Bybee. These other folks, there’s no indication that they violated an oath to uphold the constitution in the way he did, or if they have, they are no longer in a position of public trust, the way he is.
Watch it:
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JUST DO IT!
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pmThese other folks, there’s no indication that they violated an oath to uphold the constitution in the way he did, or if they have, they are no longer in a position of public trust, the way he is.
Excuse me? Just because one is not in the position to do it again means they can’t be held accountable for violating the same oath?
Just when did our legal system contain the idea that unless you are caught in the act you get to go free?
April 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 pmWould someone tell Alter that there is ALREADY a movement to impeach Bybee? Geez….
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:01 pmBuhbye Bybee Baybay
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:02 pmHow about burning at the stake?
Would be much more fun, but then that would be torture…
…oh forgot, Bybee is all for torture.
Fcuk the Republicans
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:03 pmBuckie Boy Says:
How about burning at the stake?
Would be much more fun, but then that would be torture…
Not if you spit ‘em first.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:04 pmALTER: You could see, conceivably, a movement to impeach Judge Bybee.
Conceivably?!? Has he not noticed it splashed all over TP for the past couple of days? This is not in the hypothetical stage.
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Hoodathunktick Says:
Just because one is not in the position to do it again means they can’t be held accountable for violating the same oath?
Not by the mechanism of impeachment. Through other methods, sure.
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Xisithrus Says:
Buhbye Bybee Baybay
Wasn’t that a Backstreet Boys song or something?
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:05 pmCould be…but I cant say because I never listened to them. =]
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:08 pmXisithrus Says:
Could be…but I cant say because I never listened to them. =]
Nope, T’was NSync. I hereby declare this to be Bybee’s official theme song.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:12 pmI dont think what Bybee consists of is flammable
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:13 pmHm. That video apparently features Justin Timberlake being chased down by rabid Doberman Pinschers. Awesome.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:14 pmthis just in… the party of “NO” just said “NO” they’re NOT the party of “NO” that is all…
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:14 pmHeh
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:15 pmAnd its not torture!
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:16 pmUh really? The memos indicate they violated their oath’s to the constitution and regardless of whether they are in positions of power or not, there is not statute of limitations on murder. Let’s call it what it is.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:31 pmWhat? Does the statute of limitations run out on war crimes?
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pmIf not, those who are no longer in public office should be prosecuted.
But I’ve heard of kids sticking it in a bag and lighting IT on fire.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:48 pmElBruce is torturing us by putting up N’Sync videos. :)
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:50 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
ElBruce is torturing us by putting up N’Sync videos. :)
Sorry, didn’t realize it was that bad; I’m immune to it because of my SERE training.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:42 pmPelosi, Reid, Leahy and the rest of these scumbags are in the process of proposing a so-called “Truth Commission” without any criminal prosecution for the Bush/Cheney Criminal/War Crimes Cartel….My stomach is still rolling!
The purpose is clear: To “stonewall” and “whitewash” everything…bury it in investigations for years!! Whenever these two “class clowns” get their noses into anything it’s ALWAYS NEVER IN THE INTERESTS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!! Looks like the “Fix is in”, and I bet Obama is so happy he probably pissed his pants!
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 pmFor crying out loud!!! Judge Bybee is a Republican. Enough said. They are the party of death and pain. They like it. They embrace it like the right wing christians (small c) like the rapture. The question of legality does not enter into it for them. The only questions are: how much can we do? And can we get away with it? Can I watch it? Or do I have to look at it? Take your pick.
The people that prescribed it, that endorsed it, and that did it, or morally moribund creatures. expecting them to see it for what it is, is like trying to explain color to someone color blind.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pmSo do 99% of everyone in government. Most of what the federal government does is unconstitutional.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pmDidn’t Alter write an article called “Time to Think about Torture” right after 9/11 happened?
Guess he was for it before he was against it.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 pmbrothabill Says:
YOU are an ignorant piece of garabage and a worthless punkass troll.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pmbrothabill Says:
Jon Alter is just a liberal buttboy.
… who right now I’m sure is really upset about what somebody said about him on the Internet. It’s one thing to use ad-hominem attacks against someone you’re debating with here, but using them against the subject of the news item? That’s pointless squared.
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brothabill Says:
All Republicans should be fired and all equally corrupt and stupid democrats need to be fired
I’m curious to know what political party or parties you believe deserve representation in the government.
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