In a press conference today, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) broke with the Republican practice of referring to the Bush administration’s torture practices as “enhanced” or “harsh” interrogation techniques. As Ryan Grim notes, Boehner described the recently released OLC memos as outlining “torture techniques“:
BOEHNER: Last week, they released these memos outlining torture techniques. That was clearly a political decision and ignored the advice of their Director of National Intelligence and their CIA director.
Watch it:
Shortly thereafter, Boehner’s spokesperson Michael Steel e-mailed Grim, saying, “It is clear from the context that Boehner was simply using liberals’ verbiage to describe these interrogation techniques. The United States does not torture.” Earlier this week, when asked by CNS News if the US government did the right thing in waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohammad, Boehner punted: “I don’t know, you’ll have to ask [the CIA].”
Republican Labels! Mean NOTHING.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:46 pmBOEHNER: Last week, they released these memos outlining torture techniques.
– - I’m guessing Boehner “misspoke” and will issue a retracti…umm, a clarification fairly soon.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pmOoopsie. (How’s that for some liberal verbiage?)
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pmJohn Boehner just pulled a boner? By the way, is it just me, or is his spray tan wearing off?
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pmThey all know it’s torture.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pmThey say it’s not torture but it’s ok because we get good intel from it.
Oxymoron
Probably afraid Uncle Rush will spank.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pmWhat cold calculated obstructionists they are. They have lost their morals, and now they’ll loose their jobs.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pmI hope they will put a waterboarding display in bush’s library. Wax figures of bush holding down a prisoner and cheney administering the water. It owuld certainly be scary, but well worth documenting in case another bush or cheney should come along.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pmUntil Boehner can tell carbon dioxide from methane, anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt–one really REALLY big grain of salt.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:03 pmI think the GOP will be in the wilderness for a very, very long time.
First they say we don’t torture, then we do torture, but it is effective. Then they say we don’t torture, we use enhanced interrogation techniques, but it is not torture. Then they say torture (uhm, sorry ‘enhanced interrogations’) foiled a ‘West Coast 9/11′, but the fact is the WH doesn’t know when the plot was foiled or how. Next we get ‘Boner’ saying we do torture. Just how far out of work do the GOP want to be? Seems they are shouting to a choir of teabggers.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm“Boehner argued that a discussion of such torture techniques was ‘inappropriate,’ as it could tip off U.S. enemies to the tactics used and ‘denigrate’ the United States and its allies. Torture is illegal under U.S. and international law.”
Discussing torture techniques is not denigrating to the USA and its allies. Torturing prisoners is denigrating to the USA and its allies.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:07 pmWhen I read the headline I thought Boner was accidently using the word truth. Or tears.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 pmOooooh, Torture is Liberal language…..fcuk you Boner…
….Boner’s logic is tortured.
Fcuk the Republicans
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pmAh yes!! Over the years there has been the language change. The new and improved changes in the truth. It is now enhanced interrogation= torture. See if we do not call it torture, then it is not. Then there is the favorite quote of Bush regarding war. “Sometimes to need war to have peace.” Then it is not war as such, simply a way to get someones attention=war. All of this goes along with the new reality.
See like 1984 it is double speak. Not lying. Heavens no. Just a different way of seeing things. A way suited to a different time. For instance Democracy. We don’t wait to be asked to help a country obtain Democracy. No, that was the old way. Now we force Democracy on a country at the point of a gun. We give them Democracy whether wanted or not. And what better way to show how great it is, then by giving it to them our way? It is for their own good after all. And who to judge better then we that have it?
Boehner’s lapse in the new grammar will be rectified the next time he speaks. That accidental word of truth will be brought to his attention soon. Really soon. And he will again fall into line. Any truth that comes from that party is always accidental. Always.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pmWhat the lawyer advisers did was to try and redefine torture so they can say the US doesnt torture.
Its semantics. Advisers do not have the power to redefine words
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:19 pmI sent him a fax:
“You’re just not real bright, Mr. Boehner…”
(202) 225-0704
:)
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:20 pmlol! Just blame the evil liberals!
What else would you expect from the pro-torture party.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pmBOEHNER: Last week, they released these memos outlining torture techniques.
– - CHENEY: No one ever reports the good news coming out of Iraq torture.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pmdrain the swamp. only a full drain will bring america back to being a republic.
also change the consitution such as term limits for congress.
americans are just beginning to figure out their reps do not represent them.
americans wake up your country is about profits not people.
americans must do what jefferson advised over 200 years ago.
to wait is to destroy your middle class.
drain the swamp americans before it is too late. it may be too late now.
the bully is about to be brought to its knees. universal law demands that bullies sooner or later be brought to thier knees.
the religious, the atheists, and the politicans dont have a clue that these universals laws exist.
few americans will understand my words very few.
ask germany and japan how well their imperialism worked for them.
america is an imperialist nation and few americans understand that they support imperialism and wars for profits around the world.
even with 700 american military bases around the world americans fail to see their imperialism in action.
even with mega military expenses they think it is for defense not offense.
one final note afghan will be obama’s vietnam.
he is making the same mistakes as LBJ did. ie listening to his generals.
if any american thinks that the surge is working in iraq go over there and take your vacation there this year and walk down the streets and see how that works out for ya.
fools the iraqi puppet gov is locked up behind the green zone to protect them from their own people who know they are puppets of american imperialism.
do you want to bet these puppets that have sold out their own country dont have huge swiss bank accounts?
americans your country is controlled by the industrial military complex, corp lobbyists, and special interest groups.
wars for profits is big business for the few that control your country.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pmOOOO WHEEEE! I would not want to be a Repuglicant right now! Boehner is just too stupit to realize that he hung himself. Man, lay off the liquor! It’s just pure evil how they try to mask the torture of human beings! This is just shameful!
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 pmGood on you, Boner, for admitting the truth FINALLY.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 pmBad on you, Steele, for denying the truth Ad Infinitum.
researcher, can I ask are you a Ron Paul supporter? what you just said is exactly what some of my friends say.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:44 pmresearcher Says:
few americans will understand my words very few.
Quit saying that. You’re not that cryptic.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 pmresearcher Says:
Dr. Bronner, is that you?
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pmAmerican Patsy Says:
I see the hate is flowing freely, still.
I hate torture.
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pmrepugs know damn well it’s torture plain and simple. boner used the correct word, torture. They can play with the word all they want.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pmThere are not enough blankets in the uiverse for the Repubs and Boehner to effectively play CYA.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pmAmerican Patsy Says: “I see the hate is flowing freely, still.”
Now that you’re back…
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pmThis all sickens me. How will this country ever get past this issue if it cannot be de-politicized, dealt with at it’s face, at put to bed regardless of the pain it causes individuals or the nation as a whole?
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:07 pmSimply put – a freudian slip.
For what it’s worth, “Freud believed that verbal slips come from repressed desires.”
Hmmmm – represses desires.
Boner! Put that water down!
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm@27 American Patsy
Don’t confuse resentment with hate. I think you may be sensing resentment. Sorry. We’ll get over it.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pmthomthum Says:
This all sickens me. How will this country ever get past this issue if it cannot be de-politicized, dealt with at it’s face, at put to bed regardless of the pain it causes individuals or the nation as a whole?
If only we had some kind of system that was designed to be as nonpolitical as possible, tasked to determine the truth of the matter and empowered to award appropriate consequences to any guilty parties… Some kind of “process” that tried to give people what they were “due” and approximated the concept of “justice…”
Oh well.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pmNote that bush and cheney may have established a torture program consisting of long term torture sessions desinged to obtain false confessions. The evidence is going to show that everything points to false confessions to justify attacking Iraq.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pmIsn’t it odd? These sick phucks would rather gargle gasoline than say “torture” yet they still insist that “political correctness” is a atheist/commie plot to send True Believers(TM) to Hell.
It must suck to hold beliefs that contradict reality.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:18 pmThe United States DOES NOT TORTURE!(anymore?)
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:26 pmOnly Republicans LOVE those that have tried to destroy our country.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:27 pmthis just in… republicans support torture. that is all…
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:32 pmi am sure over at fixed news, they edited out the “t” word prior to broadcasting bonehead’s statement
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 pmIs water boarding, sleep deprivation, stress positions, exposure to insects and attack dogs torture? Probably! Dick Cheney staying in Washington instead of going back to Wyoming? NOW THAT’S TORTURE. SOMEBODY PLEASE SAY UNCLE!
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 pmNow that the republicans have determined what the republicans shall call the torture sessions, we can move on to the actual discussion about what to do with those people who ordered these heinous acts.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:48 pmBushian word games still persist. It’s still putting lipstick on a pig!(No Sarah Palin reference intended) They don’t control the White House, they don’t control the House, they don’t control the Senate and they certainly don’t control the conversation. Has anyone told them that they lost the election?
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:02 pmLuis Chapulin M Says:
Discussing torture techniques is not denigrating to the USA and its allies. Torturing prisoners is denigrating to the USA and its allies.
Exactly.
They’re trying to make it look like it’s Obama who has made us less safe. But, it’s those who decided to torture who have actually made us less safe!
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Thursday that the Obama administration’s release of detainee interrogation documents could lead to a backlash against U.S. interests overseas, but that the disclosures were inevitable.
snip
“Pretending that we could hold all of this and keep it all a secret, even if we wanted to, I think was probably unrealistic. So we’ll just have to deal with it,” Gates said.
“There is a certain inevitability, I believe, that much of this will eventually come out. Much has already come out.”
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 pmApe-Man Says:
…we can move on to the actual discussion about what to do with those people who ordered these heinous acts.
“Enhanced rebuttal.”
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 pmI could be wrong, wouldn’t be the first time, but ny father who somehow survived 2 years in a North Korean Prison Camp disagrees with Boner. Torture is torture and he should know! He is also a registerd republican who voted for President Obama. Nuff said
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 pmBomer is an idiot and probably a drunk who’s mouth runs faster than what brains he may have left and can’t help itself.
April 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm“Boehner drops the t-bomb.”
More Boehnerism from Boner. First Professor Boner’s teachings of cow gas illustration of carbon dioxide on ABC Week on Sunday and now Boner drops the t-bomb. He’s been in the tanning bed too long that his brain is fried. File Boner’s latest under Psycho Talk.
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 pmWell, stupid troll. Are you willing to give your life in exchange for those who were executed for “waterboarding” U.S. military personnel? Would you be willing to send your kids to travel among the families of the innocents we tortured?
But? Don’t worry, stupid troll. Since you only speak up for this shit anonymously, you’ll be allowed to share in the benefits of erasing this stain from the history of our nation. You won’t find yourself in a cell or dancing on a rope.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 pmP.S. Are you a coward, a psychopath, or both? We already know you’re a sub-human troll but, I’d like to know which subgroup you should be placed in.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 pmBeener- go have a good cry, and take Michael Steele with you
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 pmKilling isn’t murder it’s enhanced dying.
Stealing isn’t stealing it’s enhanced borrowing.
Rose is a rose…
If it walks like a…
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pmBoner’s lack of intelligence shines brightly and ever true in the dark of day.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 pmSP Biloxi Says:
“Boehner drops the t-bomb.”
More Boehnerism from Boner. First Professor Boner’s teachings of cow gas illustration of carbon dioxide on ABC Week on Sunday and now Boner drops the t-bomb. He’s been in the tanning bed too long that his brain is fried. File Boner’s latest under Psycho Talk.
It’s a spray on orangey tan.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 pmIt’s not the rnc token michael steele.
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 pmbrothabill Says:
Only pussies would think throwing a bucket of water on someone’s face is torture.
boner must be a pussy cause he called it torture.
Plus you are just as dumb as the rest of the teabaggers.
If torture were all you said it is, then why do they do it, dumbass?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 pmBrothabill is just another Reichwhiner pussy who thinks he’s tough calling non-Reichwhiners “pussies” and then running off.
Stupid troll=effing pussy
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 pmWhat’s up, stupid troll. I called you a pussy. Don’t you even have the balls to defend yourself? Or maybe you’re just so effing stupid you didn’t realize I was talking to you?
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 pmSP Biloxi Says:
“Boehner drops the t-bomb.”
More Boehnerism from Boner. First Professor Boner’s teachings of cow gas illustration of carbon dioxide on ABC Week on Sunday and now Boner drops the t-bomb. He’s been in the tanning bed too long that his brain is fried. File Boner’s latest under Psycho Talk.
It’s a spray on orangey tan.
lol Good one.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 pmSP Biloxi Says:
“Boehner drops the t-bomb.”
More Boehnerism from Boner. First Professor Boner’s teachings of cow gas illustration of carbon dioxide on ABC Week on Sunday and now Boner drops the t-bomb. He’s been in the tanning bed too long that his brain is fried. File Boner’s latest under Psycho Talk.
It’s a spray on orangey tan.
lol Good one.
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 pmsideshow…
April 23rd, 2009 at 11:54 pmchris matthews… just when you think you’ve got him figured,
he goes and says something dumb… like, after talking about all the different names for torture, and arguments for/against,
he says, “here’s the basic question: does it work”
no, that is not the basic question… there is no basic QUESTION.
TORTURE IS A CRIME.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:13 amnobody…
April 24th, 2009 at 12:28 amHaha. A drunken Mick? Stupid troll? Lying POS? No matter.
Next time we need advice from a stupid troll from a third world country that can’t get itself out of a perpetual religious war? We’ll look you up.
Of course, I still think it’s more likely we are dealing with a spotty teenager posting from Mommy’s basement somewhere South of the Mason-Dixon line. One who doesn’t realize that many of us have done everything within our limited means to stop the mad descent of our country. A descent that can be blamed, almost exclusively, on idiots who don’t have a problem with the torture of prisoners.
BTW. I’m comfortably retired. I think that our country has made a foundational decision for the better but, I won’t live to see all the damage repaired. On the bright side, no American will ever have to deal with the many disadvantages of being born in Ireland. That’s gotta work to our advantage.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:30 amEven a drunken Reichwing Mick, who went to med school, would make more sense.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:33 amSpeaking of England’s retarded stepchild:
Did you all know that the Irish pussies remained neutral in WW2? The biggest evil the World has ever seen and they didn’t take a stand. Pathetic. It’s especially ironic because they; when forced, cornered, or drunk, are pretty good fighters.
Have you ever wondered why civilized people call it “Ireland”? Here’s a hint. Ire=anger. Alas. The Land of Anger couldn’t manage to get angry at Hitler. I guess they were consumed with the need to toss bombs at each other over monumental evils like whether the wine really turns into blood.
Given the choice between being identified as a worthless Mick, a troll, or a lying piece of shit? I wouldn’t profess loyalty to the Land of Anger.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:10 amOMG The torture advocates could win if they’re convincing enough. Then torture will ever more be an official part of the government. GAD! sounds serious guys…
April 24th, 2009 at 1:12 ambrothabill
You are just a lying teabag troll. You have no job and you probably writing from your jail cell.
I guess you haven’t seen the crowds that flock around our President Obama. Of course not you are too busy counting your loot. HAHAHAHAHAHA
What does the Irish contribute to the world? What are you doing besides bragging about your stolen gold.
Worry about your piece of rock over in Ireland. Ireland is just an tiny island with no say so in world affairs.
You are a teabagger and you are ashame to admit it.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:19 amkatydid Says:
chris matthews… just when you think you’ve got him figured,
he goes and says something dumb… like, after talking about all the different names for torture, and arguments for/against,
he says, “here’s the basic question: does it work”
no, that is not the basic question… there is no basic QUESTION.
TORTURE IS A CRIME.
I just resigned that chris is just a luke-warm repug.
I have heard anything else about him running for office.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:22 amkatydid and Game of Life Says:
Tweety is a weird case. I think that his only standard is “how is this interview going”. When the guest strokes him or gives him something he can run with, even when it’s BS, he eats it with a spoon. When the guest tries to take control of the interview? He channels Bill0 and shouts them down.
This makes him valuable as a media figure but, he would be an unmitigated disaster as a public office holder.
On the other hand, as a Minnesotan who lives just outside Crazy Shelly’s (Bachmann’s) district I’m willing to cut him some slack as long as he doesn’t actually run for office.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:36 amBoner has been known to waterboard himself with his own tears on multiple occasions.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:37 amJust flinging shit at a troll, RHF. If any genuine Irish were hit by the splash? I’m deeply sorry but, this particular stupid troll asked for “the big guns”. I just got carried away.
And I still think that the troll in question is a POS without any redeeming human qualities.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:45 amThe republican party is melting… melting…
April 24th, 2009 at 1:52 amit is not torture just enhanced techiques.
so what if we torture them if it saves one american life.
we americans are more important than them. ie all of them.
we are americans we are the best in everything.
the greatest nation of earth.
I dont want any socialism. so what if 47 million americans are without health insurance and many have pre existing conditions and will go bankrupt.
this is america and I love my capitalism.
I sit in the front row of church every sunday and I know we we christians are the only ones going to heaven.
better to kill them over there than over here.
signed
just your average republican.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:57 amand proud of it.
hannity and russ are my heros.
ie gods chosen people.
BTW, RHF.
My Great Grandfather was one of the few Welshmen of his day to be Knighted. And, to the best of my knowledge, was the only Welshman of his day to be stripped of his title for fleeing to Boston with “the Queens textile secrets”. I would have loved spending vacations at the family manor.
Dang! I hate the English too, LOL.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:01 amWhy would anyone listen to Boehner when he compared CO2 ‘emissions’ to COW FARTS?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:15 amBook ‘em, Dano! /McGarrett
April 24th, 2009 at 8:10 ampete Says:
“And, to the best of my knowledge, was the only Welshman of his day to be stripped of his title for fleeing to Boston with “the Queens textile secrets”.”
Victoria’s secrets?
April 24th, 2009 at 8:37 amresearcher Says:
“I sit in the front row of church every sunday and I know we we christians are the only ones going to heaven.”
LOL
Bundle up.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:40 amAnyone else notice that evry time the Boneman steps up to the podium he seems slightly off balance, slightly slurs his words and is constntly stiffeling back burbon burps. He looks and sounds like a bronzed dandyboy Dean Martin. Chain smoking, drunk, tanned and stoopid is no way to go through life son.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:53 amIt doesn’t matter what they call it, it’s still TORTURE.
Just like it doesn’t make George W. Bush a “great” president just because they keep saying that.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:26 amMSNBC with the exception of Joe Scarborough is the only news channel that seems to be adding up all the information that is being released from all these memos. All the other channels are just trying to politicize it.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:28 amnote on brothabill:
up a few threads, he says he’s in the construction biz. Here he clkaims to be a doctor.
Once a troll is caught in a lie, we need no longer pay any attention to the troll. Done.
As far as Boner goes, I think it’s a clear case of Freudian panties.
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