Bachmann: CO2 ‘is a natural byproduct of nature.’
Bachmann: CO2 ‘is a natural byproduct of nature.’
On the House floor on Earth Day, April 22, 2009, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) argued that threat of manmade global warming doesn’t make any sense because “carbon dioxide is a natural byproduct of nature“:
Carbon dioxide, Mister Speaker, is a natural byproduct of nature. Carbon dioxide is natural. It occurs in Earth. It is a part of the regular lifecycle of Earth. In fact, life on planet Earth can’t even exist without carbon dioxide. So necessary is it to human life, to animal life, to plant life, to the oceans, to the vegetation that’s on the Earth, to the, to the fowl that — that flies in the air, we need to have carbon dioxide as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth.
Watch it:
Rep. Blumenauer (D-OR), later in the evening, demolished Bachmann for “making things up on the floor of the House.”
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So is arsenic.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pmSounds like Alejandro on the cap-and-trade thread yesterday…
April 24th, 2009 at 12:27 pmCan we cut her supply of oxygen? It’s obviously not reaching her brain.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmThey Call if Life
http://cei.org/pages/co2.cfm
April 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmYou are right Crazy Bachmann but just as too little CO2 will kill us, so will too much.
and if you don’t believe me, try putting a bag over your head for a couple of hours.
Of course, it would explain a lot if we were to find out you already did this experiment and your current state of mind was the outcome…
April 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pmheh
April 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pmIt’s not CO2 per se that’s the prob, it’s the rising levels of CO2 caused by combining O with C when burning carbon-based fuels. Silly rabbit.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pmUranium and plutonium are natural, yet in human hands they can be transformed into a huge threat.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:29 pmSomeone should have asked Ms. Bachman “We dump tons of pollutants into our atmosphere on a daily basis. Do you really think we can do that without it having a negative affect on our atmosphere?”
April 24th, 2009 at 12:30 pmTeh stupid is strong in this one.
Can we see the video of Blumenauer wrecking this idiot? PLEASE!
April 24th, 2009 at 12:30 pm“Carbon dioxide, Mister Speaker, is a natural byproduct of nature.”
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So is feces, but we wouldn’t want to have to adjust to an overabundance of it in our environment.
Nobody is arguing that CO2 isn’t natural or necessary. The problem is the balance shift that occurs when there’s too much of it.
Is there anybody in the HOR who has racked up more “stupid” points than this woman?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:31 pmThank you Rep. Blumenauer, something needed to be said. Now can someone in the damned House finally begin an inquiry into Ms. Bachmann’s state of mental health? This woman is batshit Crazy with a capital “C”! I wouldn’t let this deranged woman clean my toilet much less represent me. It’s been said many times here but what in the hell are the people in her disrict in Minnesota smoking exactly?? Is there a long running natural gas leak escaping right in the middle of downtown Stillwater because she definitely isn’t concerned about natural planetary emmisions and their effects on humans. Just asking ’cause wow…I mean WOW!
April 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmwe need to have carbon dioxide as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth.
Yes sweetheart, I need beer as part of my fundamental lifecycle, but a little too much and I drown.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmCO2 is a natural byproduct
so is dung
April 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmHey, Michelle!
April 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmHydrochoric acid is a completely natural byproduct of nature! Why, our stomachs generate it to digest our food!
Want a glass?
Please spare me from the Michele Bachmanns of this world.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:32 pmHydrochloric is natural, that is.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:33 pmHydrochoric is natural on the moon Typo.
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… So is lead!
… So is mercury!
… So is asbestos!
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April 24th, 2009 at 12:34 pmstateofthedivision Says
April 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Can we cut her supply of oxygen? It’s obviously not reaching her brain.
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Swap out her O2 supply with CO2, since it’s so “natural” and “necessary for life”.
OK — that was mean-spirited. Sorry about that. But the sheer stupidity gets me at times.
I’m surprised the GOP isn’t doing a better job of reining her in. Unless, of course, the minority leadership agrees with her. But she’s sure not enhancing the image of her party.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pmWhat a twit.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:36 pmRep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) argued that “carbon dioxide is a natural byproduct of nature.”
She came up with that one one night after eating a helping of cooked cabbage while on the the Chicken Dinner circuit. The rumor in Minnesota claims that she passed gas in mixed company and quickly claimed that “it a natural byproduct of nature.”
April 24th, 2009 at 12:37 pmSo is radon gas but still I’d rather my basement not be full of it…
April 24th, 2009 at 12:38 pm“…to the vegetation that’s on the Earth, to the, to the fowl that — that flies in the air…”
Why does Rep. Bachmann hate birdies that CAN’T fly? And all the non-galliformes soaring around up there?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pmThis also explains why waterboarding is safe and humane. Water is a natural byproduct of nature. In fact, life on planet Earth can’t even exist without water. It doesn’t make any sense to claim that someone could be mistreated by water.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pmWhy do I get the feeling that yesterday was the first time Michelle ever bothered to learn anything about CO2.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:42 pmOh, the people she represents must be real proud of her, what a shining example of Republican brain power.
She must have a PHD in stupid.
Fcuk the Republicans
April 24th, 2009 at 12:42 pmTail end of Bell curve
April 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pmHelps define the leading point
Thank you Ms. Bachmann
Zappa was right, stupidity IS the most plentiful “molecule” in the universe… and it occurs naturally too.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:44 pmA Patriotic Anopheles Acting Says:
Why does Rep. Bachmann hate birdies that CAN’T fly? And all the non-galliformes soaring around up there?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
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Yeah, what’s up with that? Weren’t these same “Family Values” loonies all ga-ga over “March of the Penguins” just a few short years ago? What happened?
Republican loyalty truly is a fickle thing, isn’t it…
April 24th, 2009 at 12:45 pmchiroptera toasterhead says:
Well, it’s easy to be all “family friendly” when the attention is on you. When it isn’t on you anymore, you have to kick and scream, and throw tantrums like a petulent child until you have their attention again. Then you can act all “family friendly” again.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:48 pmBatshit Bachmann is NOT a natural byproduct of Nature.
For example, her eyebrows don’t move up or down. She’s had so many botox injections she can’t move her face.
Ms Batshit, it’s time for oral botox injections. Not being able to move your mouth would be a huge benefit to all us, mmkai?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:50 pmZimzone says:
Ew… like Katherine Helmond in “Brazil”… creeeeepy.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:51 pmWait…where’s marijuana from?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:52 pmH20 is natural and needed… but I don’t see Ms. Bachmann living on the bottom of one of those 10,000 lakes
April 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pm35
April 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmAm I missing the place where this relates?
Sheesh, when you find out where it relates, let me know.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:53 pmI’m a little confused — isn’t carbon monoxide what combustion engines spew out? And if so, that would make all this “natural” nonsense pointless and there can finally be a “real” discussion.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pmCheeseflap, excellent!
April 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pmBefore the same tired old argument starts up… blah blah blah, both sides have been guilty of blah blah blah. Not just ONE side. Blah blah blah.
There, done.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pmMany plants have aborticidal compounds present in them in indigenous cultures have employed them for such for millenia. What gives you crazy b itch are you selective in the natural shit you dig and dig not?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:55 pmThis is just more evidence that the Republicans are STUPID,they have NO idea what their talking about. Boehner compared CO2 to cow farts? This is totally pathetic.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pmRemember, Bimbo Bachmann authored legislation to prohibit the government from mandating the use of compact fluorescent lightbulbs, in part, because they contain mercury.
Of course, mercury is also a natural byproduct of nature . . . it’s just that that argument didn’t fit her preconceived agenda in that case.
One thing we all know for sure, though –> BS is a naturally occurring byproduct of Bimbo Bachmann opening her fat yap.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pmHmmm,
Boner thinks cows fart CO2.
Does Batshit Bachmann, as well?
If so, do we cap her ass?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pmAdd Bachmann to the list of Regressive idiots who
don’t know what “ppm” stands for.
(Boner is already at the top of that list).
April 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pmMichelle, today’s science project is to tie a plastic bag over your head and breathe deeply.
Seriously, it’s all natural!
April 24th, 2009 at 12:58 pmBachmann is also not entirely correct in her statement that CO2 is a natural byproduct of nature. CO2 produced by burning fossil fuels has a different isotopic concentration (the ratio of C-13 to C-12) than CO2 occurring naturally in the atmosphere. Tree ring analysis shows that the C-13/C-12 ratio in the atmosphere began to decline in 1850, and is now .15% lower than it was before the Industrial Revolution.
Now, yes, it’s still somewhat of a natural by-product of nature in that fossil fuels are derived from ancient plants, but it’s not natural for this carbon that had been dead and buried to be suddenly injected back into the atmosphere.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pmWatching wingnuts try to do science is almost as much fun as watching them try to do math. Keep on home schooling, R’s!
April 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pmSorry – forgot the reference link in my CO2 isotope post. Very interesting reading: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=87
April 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pmZimzone Says:
Hmmm,
Boner thinks cows fart CO2.
Does Batshit Bachmann, as well?
If so, do we cap her ass?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
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Cows do fart CO2. Flatulence contains anywhere from 10-30% carbon dioxide, and at most trace amounts of methane. They do BURP a lot of methane, however.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pm50
April 24th, 2009 at 1:01 pmDidn’t you already say that?
Too much CO2 is the problem, you ignorant harpy. And we have a real-life example – the planet Venus.
Avg surface temp: 864 deg F
Surface pressure: approx. 90 earth atmospheres
All caused by runaway greenhouse effect.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pmAmerican Patsy ~
Your comment is even less smart the second time around.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pmOnce again, Patsy, how does it relate to the story?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pmTracy__5 Says:
As if we can stop global warming? Is there a possibly that anything we do will reverse the current warming cycle the earth undergoing? No. I sure hope people aren’t naive enough to think we can STOP global warming.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
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Can we reverse naturally occuring El Nino/La Nina/Malenkovitch cycles? No.
Can we reduce the overconcentration of CO2 we are adding to the atmosphere, which is compounding the warming trends of naturally occuring cycles? Yes.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pmDidn’t the earlier Tracy incarnations suggest global climate change was a falacy?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pmdbadass Says:
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Am I missing the place where this relates?
I must be missing it too because what it wrote has nothing to do with what I wrote.
Just another rightie trying to get a dig in at a Democrat.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pmTypical binary thinking right winger
Something must be 100% bad or 100% good, there is no gray area, there is no nuance for these people.
You really do have to turn in your brain along with your balls to be a right winger these days.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pm60
April 24th, 2009 at 1:05 pmYou are all over the place aren’t ya there little buddy…
Although your facts are skewed Gray Davis was recalled. Can they recall Michelle?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pmWe care, Patsy dear, and if this thread were about that, we would be discussing it.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pmThe GOP is making an extreme mockery of science, and someone has to take a stand and tell them that, just because they have political influence, that doesn’t mean their methods and logic for arguing the point are correct.
I’m sure they could make a very convincing argument that the world is flat if they were asked to by anti-globe lobbyists.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pma0d7fzz Says:
Too much CO2 is the problem, you ignorant harpy. And we have a real-life example – the planet Venus.
Avg surface temp: 864 deg F
Surface pressure: approx. 90 earth atmospheres
All caused by runaway greenhouse effect.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Venus is an interesting case – it appears that the warming on Venus was actually caused by a leakage of the planet’s hydrogen out of the atmosphere that then led to a buildup of CO2:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=how-planets-lose-their-atmospheres&page=3
But yeah, once the CO2 concentration rose, the temperature skyrocketed.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmHow do you know that a person’s position is based in ideology and not science?
Easy: if American Pansy and Tracey agree with it, it is ideology based nonsense.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmAmerican Patsy Says:
How many American soldiers died, today? Oh, that’s right, you stopped caring on jan 15th……..
Ok, I give. What happened on January 15 that would make us stop caring about American soldiers who die?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmOnly idiots see a problem and throw their hands up saying oh well it’s too late to do anything about it and don’t. Sound familiar?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmLet me guess. American Patsy is clever..?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmI think American Patsy is Glenn Beck. It sounds like a lot of random pizzings to me.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmOh Michelle, my dear Michelle . . . it’s sad, but you probably flunked 8th grade science. You must have been dreaming about being a useless member of Congress when your teacher explained that too much of anything is bad. Water is naturally occuring on our lovely planet, but you can still drown! We can’t live without oxygen, but if you put a match to pure oxygen it will explode – just some basic science that even someone as stupid as “Congresswoman” Bachmann could understand.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmI just think it is cool that a day on Venus is less than a year on Venus…
April 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pmchiroptera toasterhead Says: Flatulence contains anywhere from 10-30% carbon dioxide, and at most trace amounts of methane. They do BURP a lot of methane, however.
Ever light a burp?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmAmerican Patsy Says:
California Gov. Gray Davis is so terribly complex.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
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Has Schwarzenegger been morphing again? He promised during the campaign that he WASN’T a robot sent back from the future to ensure the destruction of humankind.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pm74
April 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmDamnit. Reverse that please but leave the part about it being cool…
President Obama is right to push for education because as we see Bachmann missed aall the Bio classes.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmSo she’s for decriminalizing pot too right? It’s just sitting there in nature, where God put it, just like CO2 we could make more of it, and there couldn’t be any harm in that.
This woman is entertaining in a please-shoot-me-now kind of way.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pmTracy__5 Says:
As if we can stop global warming? Is there a possibly that anything we do will reverse the current warming cycle the earth undergoing?
If your meaning of “we” is individual people, the answer is “no”. If your meaning of “we” is the people of the United States, through its collective will and using the power of government, the answer is “yes, we can”. Of course, this “we” means Democrats. If your meaning of “we” is Republicanics, the answer is still “no” because you guys don’t believe in anything that is not profit driven.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pmTracy__5 Says:
As if we can stop global warming? Is there a possibly that anything we do will reverse the current warming cycle the earth undergoing? No. I sure hope people aren’t naive enough to think we can STOP global warming.
If something is causing a problem, what is the one thing you should do to stop the propagation of the problem? You stop what it is that causes the problem.
Trying to make a metaphor, but if your doctor tells you that you’ve done damage to your lungs due to smoking, do you continue to smoke or attempt to halt further damage to the lungs?
I don’t think we’re naive we can undo the damage caused by decades of fossil fuel combustion, but I think we can seriously slow it down.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmDoes the Patsy not realize that Gray Davis hasn’t been Governor of California since 2003?
Man, that was some really lame trolling. At least Tracist makes an effort.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmIf a cure for ignorance is discovered that doesn’t require right wingers to actually work to learn, the Republican party will simply cease to exist as it is fueled by the ignorance and cowardice of their base.
American Pansy is a prime example of ignorance and cowardice making one susceptible to right wing nonsense.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmCO2 is natural. Her crazy expression, particularly that lunatic smile, is not.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmPatsy, why ask zooey, can’t you tell us?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pmAsk zooey….
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April 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pmCan I ask that POS RealityCheck or that lunatic brothabill instead?
Hoodathunktick Says:
Ever light a burp?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
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No, but then I’m not a ruminant.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pmAmerican Patsy Says:
How many American soldiers died, today? Oh, that’s right, you stopped caring on jan 15th……..
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Did you get this from Montel Williams interview on Fox News when he said the same thing?
I LOST A BROTHER AND COUSIN IN IRAQ WAR!!!!!!
More than 2,590 soldiers had lost their lives, according to U.S. Department of Defense numbers. But the number of wounded is not clear-cut. In fact, that count is elusive. DoD numbers have tallied 17,702 wounded.
I HAVE NOT STOP CARING AND I NEVER WILL!!!!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pmLet’s extend that logic:
Water, Mister Speaker, is a natural byproduct of nature. water is natural. It occurs in Earth. It is a part of the regular lifecycle of Earth. In fact, life on planet Earth can’t even exist without water. So necessary is it to human life, to animal life, to plant life, to the oceans, to the vegetation that’s on the Earth, to the, to the fowl that — that flies in the air, we need to have water as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth.
Sounds reasonable. Except when I’m drowning in it. Or when riverbanks overrun and homes are flooded. I don’t understand, it’s natural; it can’t possibly be bad for us! The concentration of water shouldn’t matter, right?
I can accept the fact that there are people like this in our country, but why are they running our government?
We should be dealing with pressing issues like the economy, or the environment and start honoring old promises we made long ago. For example, global poverty, which we pledged in 2000 to help eradicate by supporting the United Nations Millennium Development Goals. The Borgen Project (www.borgenproject.org) has some interesting insight into addressing the issues of global poverty, something we can remedy easily and sustainably.
Some interesting figures to ponder:
April 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm$30 billion USD: The annual shortfall to end global poverty.
$550 billion USD: The annual US defense budget.
American Patsy Says:
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Someone should have asked Ms. Bachman “We dump tons of pollutants into our atmosphere on a daily basis. Do you really think we can do that without it having a negative affect on our atmosphere?”
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California Gov. Gray Davis is so terribly complex. On one hand he styles himself as an “environmentalist” and makes cars even more expensive. On the other hand he lets “one of California’s largest polluters” increase toxic discharges into San Francisco Bay shortly after the company hands him $70,500.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
April 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm~~~~
Gray hasn’t been Governor for nearly six years.
Governor: Arnold Schwarzenegger’s term started November 17, 2003.
American Patsy Says:
How many American soldiers died, today? Oh, that’s right, you stopped caring on jan 15th……..
Wait, so CO2 is now linked to the death of soldiers?
Patsy, please show us that you know exactly how many soldiers have died today or this month. Put your money where your mouth is.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pmBut you are going against the Bible where Jesus said “screw the poor, we need weapons”
April 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm90
April 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmHow come Borgen claims to have lived on a boat in Ductch Harbor but doesn’t claim to have actually worked said boat? Is that part of bio just to seem cool?
RantingTommy Says:
But you are going against the Bible where Jesus said “screw the poor, we need weapons”
April 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
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Good point. I mean really – you can do quite a lot of damage with a ploughshare if you hold it right.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pmAmerican Patsy Says:
How many American soldiers died, today? Oh, that’s right, you stopped caring on jan 15th……..
Are they dying from excess CO2? Or are you just pointing out one of the many ways the Bush administration found for killing people worldwide? Or are you saying that the new President should just totally abandon everything the US has screwed up in the last 8 years without at least trying to find a solution?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:26 pmJeezus H. Christ. That bloody woman is the biggest idiot on the friggin’ planet.
Every single time she opens her flappy mouth, teh stupit flies out.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pmIf I lived in the Minnesota district that this crazy, dumb b-itch represented, I would be embarrassed and call for her resignation. I wonder if she knows how many ‘ppm’ of CO2 has risen over the last 10 years?
BACHMANN IS AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR MINNESOTA!!!!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmDoes Shelley think that those calling for action on climate change want to eliminate CO2?
Kinda sounds like it, doesn’t it? Is she that simple-minded?
Wait — don’t answer that — I don’t wanna know.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pmHas the Patsy ever returned to tell us what happened on january 15?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmApprently Patsy has told us that zooey has all of the mysterious answers… oooh… ahhhh…
April 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pmActually, the ‘activity’ of war produces more man-made CO2 than just about anything on Earth.
So if you want to “save the Earth”, let’s start by bringing the troops home.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pmShorter Tracist_5:
“We can’t affect anything. So LET”S PARTY!”
April 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pmCarbon dioxide, Mister Speaker, is a natural byproduct of nature
Yes, Ms. Batshit Crazy Bachman, and so is bullshit, but we sure don’t want an abundance of that polluting the airwaves………..oh, wait……….
April 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pmTracy__5 Says:
#108
Prove that human activity have alone caused the earth to enter into ANOTHER warming phase.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
If you understood how science works, you would understand that asking for proof is the wrong question.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmDoes this mean Bachmann supports legalizing pot? Peyote? Psilocybes?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pmDid Bachman and Palin and Beck have the same science teacher?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pmMichele Bachmann is proof that God created wingnuts and imperfect women.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmCan I nominate Rep Bachmann for the:
Wackiest
House
Of
Represntative
Extemist
award?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pmTracy__5 Says:
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“The CURRENT CONTINUED WARMING is MAN MADE as is the ACCELERATED RATE. Already PROVEN.”
Hasn’t been proven. Accelerated yes but started by….no. Cite you evidence.
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It seems all you wingnuts flunked science and math or you are just unwilling to accept reality. This is no longer an argument to people who have brains and can read.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:57 pmHas the Patsy ever returned to tell us what happened on january 15?
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April 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pmUnsuprisingly no ralph and oddly enough that POS RealityCheck and that lunatic brothabill remain silent on the topic as well…
Heya, Twacie – howsabout you PROVE that Adam rode a dinosaur…?
Otherwise, STFU.
There is an absolutely obvious cause in the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere, dearheart. Every chart notes the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere began to rise when humans started burning fossil fuels at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, and those levels of CO2 have correspondingly risen as humans multiplied and industry/cars, etc. boomed.
Duh.
Well, obvious to anyone with a single functioning brain cell – which leaves out you, Michelle Bachman and the rest of the GOOPers. Morons.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pmTracy__5 Says:
Cite the the quote not just the link.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
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http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf
Pages 37-38.
Please note that “very high confidence” means 90-95% certainty, meaning that there is only a 5-10% chance that you are correct and human activity has less to do with climate change, or nothing at all.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmTracy__5 Says:
The reality is that there is no definitive proof that the current warming trend the Earth is under going would not STILL be happening if large amounts fossil fuel by-products had NEVER been dumped into the atmosphere by people.
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I’d like to see some evidence or proof of your allegations. Thnx.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pmTracy__5 Says:
The reality is that there is no definitive proof that the current warming trend the Earth is under going would not STILL be happening if large amounts fossil fuel by-products had NEVER been dumped into the atmosphere by people.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
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No, but there is 95% certainty. That’s enough for me.
Short of making a duplicate Earth circa 1750 in a laboratory and running a 250-year control test on it to see what happens when humans DON’T have an industrial revolution, we will NEVER have the concrete proof that you’re looking for.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pmTracy__5 Says:
The reality is that there is no definitive proof that the current warming trend the Earth is under going would not STILL be happening if large amounts fossil fuel by-products had NEVER been dumped into the atmosphere by people.
By your standard, there’s no “definitive proof” of the theory of Relativity, of gravitational attraction in general, or the heliocentric model of the Solar system.
Science is never “definitive.” That’s not how it works.
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Tracy__5 Says:
I never said it didn’t have nothing to do at all and that man is not accelerating climate change.
So we’re in agreement, great. Even if our activities are only one of multiple accelerating factors, reducing that factor would be a goal favorable to the well-being of humanity.
Stop looking at this as us “blaming” humanity, and rather as the warning of a real threat combined with sensible suggestions regarding what to do about it.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmTracy__5 Says:
This does in no way imply that the Earth wouldn’t still be warming if man had never dumped greenhouse gases. Where is the evidence that the warming would not still be happening absent of man’s greenhouse contributions?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
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I assure you that if we had a spare planet scientists could use as a control in order to validate your ridiculous standard of “proof,” climate scientists would be using it for this very purpose.
Until Magrathea gets back into business, we have to rely on the known fact that CO2 has increased, the known fact that the isotopic concentration of this CO2 indicates that it is primarily of fossil fuel origin, and the known fact that CO2 and CH4 and NO2 function as greenhouse gases, and put these three known facts together into an overwhelmingly supported theory.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pmCO2: “Bachmann is an unnatural byproduct of nature.”
April 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pmJust checked the CO2 levels coming off the Pacific Ocean this morning and they appear to be a little low so I have informed all my neighbors we need to burn as much as possible today to maintain a healthy planet and get levels back up to where they were 300 years ago. If we all do our part we can control optimum levels so our crops will flourish and we will all enjoy the fruits of the harvest this fall.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pmTracy__5 Says:
“we will NEVER have the concrete proof that you’re looking for.”
Exactly.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
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Then your participation in further discussion on this topic serves no purpose whatsoever. You might as well be demanding rigorous study on the effect of unicorn extinction on Somali pirates.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pmTracy see the documentary “global dimming.” We had proof of this on sept 12 2001 when we were able to accurately document a few things. Especially that we were done calling it warming over 5 years ago. WERE TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. Apparently you are missing the reports of all the dying american freshwater fish, declination of america’s freshwater, salinity change in the ocean, temperature change of the ocean, it goes on and on. We are beyond refutable proof that our YES HUMAN actions continued unchecked will kill us. We dont care about a few degrees of warming when the salinity change in the ocean due to the increase of carbon dioxide absorbtion will end the worlds food supply much much sooner.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:31 pmI apologise, not salinity, I meant alkalinity/ph.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pmThis has to be one of the most annoying people I have ever come across.
She continually distorts facts with seemingly impunity from the mainstream media, while advocating proof from others.
Two questions:
April 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pm1. How in heck did she get elected in the first place?
2. Do all conservatives have learning disabilities?
Tracy__5 Says:
So true. Which is why people need to accept that the Earth is going to do what it’s going to do regardless of our actions or inactions. Not that we shouldn’t take action to reduce our contribution to the problem, but many people need to realize that this idea that we as humans can REVERSE global warming is a fallacy.
We humans CAN reverse global warming. It’s just that the price to pay would be very high. Nuclear winter, anyone?
Stop using words like “proof”, “fallacy” and “regardless” when discussing scientific theories and facts until you know just when and how to use them.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pmTracy__5 Says:
Not that we shouldn’t take action to reduce our contribution to the problem, but many people need to realize that this idea that we as humans can REVERSE global warming is a fallacy.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
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Ahh, now I understand the problem.
You are absolutely right. The idea that we as humans can reverse global warming IS a fallacy, which is why nobody is talking about it other than wingnuts proposing a ludicrous straw man.
What we as humans CAN reverse is OUR contribution to global warming, which is throwing off the equilibrium of Earth’s natural cycles. THAT is the point. If Earth is already in a small warming trend, our CO2 emissions are exacerbating it more than current plant and animal species are adapted to handle. If Earth is already in a cooling trend, our CO2 emissions are negating it. And if Earth is currently in a static trend, we’re causing a warming effect.
In either case, the fact that Earth has its own natural cycles is irrelevant to the 95% positive fact that human activity is unnaturally forcing this cycle.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pmBachman should read up on the permian extinction, the most severe extinction and the only one which included mass losses of insects.
One hypothesis involves increased volcanic activity releasing
April 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmso much of that natural CO2, that the temperature rose 5 degrees C.
“Carbon dioxide, Mister Speaker, is a natural byproduct of nature. Carbon dioxide is natural. It occurs in Earth. It is a part of the regular lifecycle of Earth. In fact, life on planet Earth can’t even exist without carbon dioxide. So necessary is it to human life, to animal life, to plant life, to the oceans, to the vegetation that’s on the Earth, to the, to the fowl that — that flies in the air, we need to have carbon dioxide as part of the fundamental lifecycle of Earth.”
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Bachmann has clearly never heard — or more likely, has all too conveniently chosen to overlook — the adage that “you can have too much of a good thing.” The fact that a chemical compound is a “by-product of nature” doesn’t justify her apparent assumption that it can’t possibly be harmful in excess quantities. Quite the contrary — a great many chemical compounds produced by nature have the capacity to be harmful in sufficiently large and/or excess quantities. Yes, there have even been times in the history of this planet when the atmosphere has contained high levels of CO2 which were not the result of interference from humans (since at least some of these occurred before humans were walking the planet) — but these episodes often coincided with the extinction of various plant and animal species which failed to adapt to the climate changes which resulted. Since there is scientific evidence to suggest that the climate is changing, regardless of whether this is the result of interference from humans or not, it is imperative that we find ways to adapt to these changes. If we insist on sticking our heads in the sand and refuse to adapt, we might not necessarily face extinction — but we could potentially face serious problems that result in long-lasting impacts for our species.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pm“Carbon dioxide is natural. It occurs in Earth. It is a part of the regular lifecycle of Earth. In fact, life on planet Earth can’t even exist without carbon dioxide”
Sounds like Bachmann is a spokesman for the oil and coal industries or at least getting $$ from their lobbyists.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmTime for Ms Bachmann to spend a weekend in a hyperbaric CO2 chamber – to prove to us how necessary it is for life.
Another F in remedial science for another R politician.
Their lack of embarrassment is proof enough of their malevolent intent.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmTracy – did you know there is fire inside your car’s engine?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmIt’s [b][i]natural[/i][/b] to wish Michele Bachmann would STFU.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmWhy do I get the distinct feeling that’s the first time in her
April 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmlife she’s ever said “carbon dioxide”?
Did you also know that fire is how most electricity is produced?
Did they have any basic science classes where you went to school, or was that another of the subjects you ignored because “nobody uses that in real life anyway”?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmSorry, I’m still stuck in BBCode from the last board I posted on! I meant:
It’s natural to wish Michele Bachmann would STFU.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmFire is also used for heating water and homes.
Did you know we have a lot if fire burning around the clock, around the globe, and have had for nigh on 200 years?
Did you know Earth’s atmosphere actually ends, high up in the sky?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pmTracy__5 Says:
Not you…but it’s the legions our there who have bought into this notion that human’s are solely responsible for the current global warming trend and that if we all just worked together we could reverse the trend or stop it.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
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How many people are in these legions, just out of curiosity. I’d like to see some statistics on how many people have bought into the notion you state.
What I do know is that out of the general population at large, only 58% believe that human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures, versus nearly 90% of climatologists. Additionally, only 47% of people believe that there is a scientific consensus on the cause of climate change.
So it would appear that the “legions” of people who believe your ridiculous straw man are still trumped by the “legions” of science deniers and oil industry skeptics.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pme to the POTATO, EXCELLENT POINT.
People can argue all day about whether climate change is anthropogenic, but there is no question that acidifacation of
April 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmthe oceans is!
OK FINE, I will concede that we may not be completely warming because of man’s actions, in fact you are still wrong. The reason man made global warming has not completely nuked us by now is that the same emissions, are in fact keeping some of the sun’s rays out. (again see “global dimming.”)
Regardless, the point still stands. We are screwing sh*t up, we need to start fixing the sh*t. These proposed laws are not perfect BUT LIKE ANYTHING IN LIFE, WE WILL GET BETTER AS WE GO!!! We find mistakes in the framework and adjust. But getting started somewhere is the thing.
Or we can do nothing, wipe out the majority of the human race, and be clueless about it which is what most of the right side seems to want. God is not just going to spirit down and supply the human race with a new food source. So, either help us, or stand out of the way while we get to work.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmthanks for the props mathazar. I am particularly sensitive regarding this issue.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmtombaker Says:
Did you know Earth’s atmosphere actually ends, high up in the sky?
That’s a point I like to make. The sky is not infinite. The oceans aren’t infinite. We live in a closed system. Pollution is real and right now, humans aren’t terribly interested in curbing our pollution.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmManure is natural too and 99.44% of what spews Michele “I see flying monkeys” Bachmann is 100% pure, unadulterated shit.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:22 pmI have a suggestion for Michele Bachmann, put a bag over your head and breath. Don’t worry Michelle it is only Carbon Dioxide that will be filling the bag and it won’t hurt you because it is part of earths lifecycle, so please keep breathing.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmTracey, just go away. The world has moved on from your stupid questions. Demand as much as you want, but nobody needs to prove a damn thing to you. You don’t want to understand climate science, else you’d be on the IPCC website. You don’t want proof, you just want to remain as ignorant and irrelevant as the day you were born. Mission accomplished.
Either contribute to the solution, or get the fck out of the way of those who will. The world has already left you way behind anyway.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmTracy__5 Says:
“we can reverse global warming” or “how to stop global warming”
April 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
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Ok, fair enough. There are some out there whose vision exceeds what is physically possible and what is the consensus view of climatologists.
That doesn’t mean, however, that it is not possible to reverse or stop the human contribution to global warming, which is the whole friggin point.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:28 pmI’d love to be the fly on the wall listening to Mensa member Bachmann and the Bubble discuss global warming and the effect of cow farts on the environment . .
ROFL . .
April 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pmFolks like Tracer don’t seem to care about the upcoming generations, and doing whatever we can to hand over to them an earth that is hospitable and livable.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:33 pmI don’t get that.
This is simply wonderful. Bachman, and that guy Barton from Texas who tried to tell us Alaska used to be hot, etc are doing the environmental cause an enormous service here.
By so clearly demonstrating that they haven’t even started to understand the basic science, they are moving the argument firmly onto the scientific merits of the question. Any time they admit this is a scientific question, not something they can dismiss at a the level of knee-jerk sound-bite rhetoric, the environmental cause wins.
Relax and enjoy as these ignoramuses completely de-legitimate their irrational resistance to urgent collective action.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmFinally, someone with a brain. Folks, if you want to cut out the greatest producers of CO2, you would have to kill every air breathing animal and human on earth. WE are the CO2 polluters of the world.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:47 pmSulpher and chlorine are natual products of nature too.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pmThe temptation to register the domain BachmannIsNuts.com is overwhelming. There would be no shortage of relevant content.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pmBTW, are we going to discuss cow farts again? That Boehner inspiration serves as the template for right wing silliness on climate change.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pmWe had a problem this spring in Minnesota with too much water in the Red River, sort of like too much much CO2 in the atmosphere. It’s not that hard a concept. Water is just another bi-product of nature. So I suppose we shouldn’t have bothered to do anything about the flood, because, heck it’s natural.
The Red River doesn’t flow very close to her district, so she probably can’t worry about what happens to them either. Wonder if she felt that way about the natural summer Tornado that took out Hugo Minnesota last summer, which is in her district. Just asking.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:16 pmIf Texas is going to seceede again, I want this one with us. As Ron White would say, “You can’t fix stupid.” But maybe the country could be rid of it and I’ll do my part by going down with the ship of fools.
An “All Natural Coal Fired Generator”. See what happens when you eat lead paint as a child? See?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:25 pmHey Michelle, you think carbon dioxide is harmful? I got a little experiment you should try. Get yourself and Freezer and fill it full of “Dry Ice”. Wait a few hour and then get in the feezer. But before you do that tell us where to send the flowers. The gases from the dry ice, CO2 will kill you Michelle, you idiot!!!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pmTracy__5 Says:
What allegation?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
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The one I asked you about.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pmTracy__5 Says:
“Science is never “definitive.” That’s not how it works.”
So true. Which is why people need to accept that the Earth is going to do what it’s going to do regardless of our actions or inactions.
Um, no.
You’re basically saying that since science can’t definitively prove anything, it can prove nothing and therefore we shouldn’t make any choices based on scientific evidence.
For example, science indicates that if I held a gun to your head and pulled the trigger, I’d probably be committing murder. But if my legal defense was that your head would have exploded anyways, I’d be laughed off to the electric chair.
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Tracy__5 Says:
But it’s the legions our there who have bought into this notion that human’s are solely responsible for the current global warming trend and that if we all just worked together we could reverse the trend or stop it.
Straw man. You’re attacking the notion of reverse/stop to support merely doing nothing about it.
If our behavior is a factor impacting the result, then changing our behavior can change the results. By the way, the previous sentence is technically definitive.
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drew3rd Says:
Finally, someone with a brain.
You and Michelle Bachmann should form your own MENSA club!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:51 pmmaxamillion Says:
Hey Michelle, you think carbon dioxide is harmful? I got a little experiment you should try. Get yourself and Freezer and fill it full of “Dry Ice”. Wait a few hour and then get in the feezer.
She likes publicity stunts. We could probably talk her into doing it…
April 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pmMinnesota.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pmHow could you elect this brainless psycho?
Every time she opens her mouth she is an embarrassment to her district, state, and country.
WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
“we will NEVER have the concrete proof that you’re looking for.”
Exactly. — Tracy_5
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Which only serves to demonstrate to many of us here that you, with all due respect, have little or no understanding of how scientific research works. Hate to burst your bubble, but the fact is that it’s virtually impossible for any researcher anywhere to prove their theory so definitively and irrefutably that all possibility of error is eliminated. The reason for leaving a margin of error in the first place is because there is no human being anywhere, no matter how intelligent and/or disciplined, who has been or could be so thoroughly perfect and precise that they would be literally incapable of ever making a mistake at any point in the process or of inadvertently leaving room for nuisance variables. If nothing else, there is always the faint possibility that the effects observed are entirely due to random chance. The margin of error makes allowances for all of this, but is always set very high (typically 5% or less) so that the statistics will fail to validate the data unless there is a 95% or higher chance that the data agrees with the theory,. This is true for just about any scientific research conducted anywhere by anyone on any subject — but it goes double for correlation studies like climate change research in which the researcher has no power to manipulate the variable(s) under study. (As my professors reminded me over and over again, “correlation does not imply causation”!) Frankly, if you’re going to insist that someone supply irrefutable proof of human influence on climate change before you’re willing to accept that as a possibility, you might as well ask for the moon for all the good it will do you.
And before you ask, yes — as it happens, I was taught how to conduct scientific research both as an undergraduate and as a graduate student (albeit in the social sciences), so I’m quite well aware that even the best researchers can sometimes make unintentional mistakes. That’s precisely why they rely on statistics, which are the backbone of research, to help them ascertain when their results are legitimate and when they’re more likely due to chance, human error, and/or an interfering variable which the researcher may have failed to consider or been unable to eliminate. In any event, if you’re going to insist that climate change researchers supply irrefutable proof of human involvement before you’re willing to believe it, then you might as well recommend that we dispense with scientific research altogether and go back to reading entrails or something like that for our information on how the world works…
April 24th, 2009 at 6:04 pmWow! I’d love to slap this idiot into Canada. Why doesn’t she just shut up and pray to the great Spaghetti Monster to lower the CO2 problem? I wonder if she’ll lose her house seat like she lost her senate seat? PLEASE!
Funny that there are over 200 posts to this article – it took over a minute to load – LOL!
To: State of Michigan,
April 24th, 2009 at 6:32 pmDUMP MICHELE BACHMANN!
Um. Rightwing-leftwing? That’s Minnesota and we’re working on it. She’s an effing embarrassment to Mn., the House, women, and thinking humans everywhere. Alas, the local press never prints her batscat and limits it’s “reporting” to her constant complaints about the “librul media” picking on her.
http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/
April 24th, 2009 at 6:56 pmAnd, to the stupid trolls who keep parroting the outright lies of the Reichwhiners? Here’s your effing proof. And it’s only one of thousands of sources.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2008/
If you can’t be part of the solution? STFU and let the smart people try and mitigate the damage!
April 24th, 2009 at 6:59 pmpete – Sorry! You’re correct – my bad – Bachmann just PISSES ME OFF!
April 24th, 2009 at 8:01 pmrightwing-leftwing Says:
pete – Sorry! You’re correct – my bad – Bachmann just PISSES ME OFF!
I live just a few blocks outside her district. She makes me want to hurl!
April 24th, 2009 at 8:12 pmAs soon as we gained the capability to effectively destroy most of life on earth in twenty minutes, the poor lil’ ‘ol human card got tossed out for good. We are not an inert, or even a benign species. It will do us good to face the fact that our actions have consequences to the environment that maintains us.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:25 pmrightwing-leftwing Says:
Wow! I’d love to slap this idiot into Canada.
They’d just slap her right back. And then somebody would have to put up a badminton net, and we’d get nowhere with this.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Should we do all we can to prevent execessive releasing CO2 because we know what it can do? Yes…
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No you are making false assumptions under your ignorant preconceived notion that I am advocating not doing anything.
What’s your point? This topic is about Bachmann being ridiculous. She’s certainly advocating not doing anything. And you’re attacking her attackers. My “preconceived notion” is based entirely on your participation in this thread on this subject.
You might want to look under your feet, see where the battle lines are being drawn on this issue and decide where you want to stand.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:33 pmElBruce:
They’d just slap her right back. And then somebody would have to put up a badminton net, and we’d get nowhere with this.
You’re correct about Canada. I’ll slap this idiot in to Lake Superior or any of the thousand lakes within instead! lol!
April 24th, 2009 at 8:52 pmThe GOP loves to show off their 5th grade science education. What they are banking on is the misconception that the majority of Americans are as scientifically naive and illiterate as they are.
Bachmann is dead wrong on just about every statement of fact that she presented in Congress on the topic of CO2. The only fact that she got right is that, yes, CO2 does exist “in nature naturally”.
So does uranium, radon gas, the Great White shark, and Ebola virus.
Just because something exists naturally does not mean it is harmless, nor does it preclude the possibility of human influence on its abundance.
Water is very natural and very abundant, and it is a vital necessity for life on Earth. Yet too much can be harmful. Or perhaps we should applaud the flooding that happens every year throughout the world because it is “natural”.
Hey Bachmann. There are organisms that can metabolize hydrogen sulfide gas, a natural, yet toxic bi-product of organic decay in anaerobic mud. Does that mean it’s okay for people to breath it? How about you try it first..
April 24th, 2009 at 9:09 pmI think the climate change deniers are the people who can’t accept their own responsibility. They want to be blameless. And those in congress get masses of campaign donations from oil companies. The deniers just want to profit — screw the rest of us — and our futures.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:51 pmWhy doesn’t someone stick her in a room with 5% CO2. It would solve many problems.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:27 pmBotox is also a natural product. It’s formed by Clostridium botulinum under anaerobic conditions such as in home canned goods that didn’t quite get hot enough. Supposedly a thimblefull of the stuff is enough to kill most of the human population.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:37 pmOMMFG!!!!!
Everyone! I’m from Minnesota. Avoid at all costs the mid-section of the state, roughly 100 miles around St. Cloud.
Jis don’t go dere!
April 24th, 2009 at 11:20 pma0d7fzz: In your post #212, what’s wrong in that part of the state? Just curious …….
April 25th, 2009 at 12:16 amTracey at 188 “A United Nations report issued today by the world’s top climate scientists said global warming was “very likely” man-made”
Ah a newspaper quote. Next.
No Tracey. It’s a report, not a quote. A thorough and scientifically rigorous study of the world’s peer reviewed climate science articles, conducted by thousands of the world’s eminent scientists and climate specialists.
Now, on the other hand, ‘A conservative think tank long funded by ExxonMobil..had offered scientists $10,000 to write articles undercutting the new (IPCC) report and the computer-based climate models it is based on’ is a newspaper quote.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/32482
April 25th, 2009 at 2:01 amSo that Apollo 13 thing was nothing other than hyped-up,sensationalized media coverage of an otherwise trivial event?
All that natural CO2 that those astronauts were breathing out was actually good for them, I take it.
Thanks for clearing that up.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:18 amI will totally change my mind on climate change if Bachmann goes on televised hearings, puts a plastic bag on her head and wraps tape around her neck to prove that CO2 is our friend.
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labman57 Says:
The GOP loves to show off their 5th grade science education. What they are banking on is the misconception that the majority of Americans are as scientifically naive and illiterate as they are.
Which is why they’re against education.
April 25th, 2009 at 2:58 pmFire is natural, too, Michele. So, setting yourself on fire would be a totally natural process.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:38 amrightwing-leftwing: That’s Bachmann’s district, roughtly. No offense to those in the district who DIDN’T vote for her.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:14 amAhh yes! I sould have known, a0d7fzz! Thanks ;)
April 26th, 2009 at 2:26 amMichelle Bachman, proof positive that you are qualified to be a Republican congressman from MN with an IQ under 70 with only 1/3 of a functioning brain and having graduated class Valedictorian from her high school.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:39 amYeah, Michelle,
April 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pmCarbon dioxide had done wonders for the planet Venus. Maybe you could take you next vacation there!
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