DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Fox Is Wrong — Author Of Right-Wing Extremism Report Has Not Been Fired
DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Fox Is Wrong — Author Of Right-Wing Extremism Report Has Not Been Fired
As ThinkProgress reported earlier, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) went on Fox and Friends this morning and criticized Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Among other issues, he and host Brian Kilmeade went after her for the agency’s report on right-wing extremism. The author of the report has been attacked as someone who isn’t from “real America” and whose “sexual orientation…is in question.” Many conservatives have called for Napolitano’s resignation.
Today, Kilmeade claimed that Napolitano had “fired” the person responsible for the right-wing extremism report. McCain added that he was “glad” about the move:
KILMEADE: Outrage continues to build this week over Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the former governor of Arizona, her remarks towards U.S. veterans. Now, the DHS has fired the head of Homeland Security’s agency — that is involved in that decision. Many are wondering if Napolitano next. [...]
MCCAIN: I was glad to see that Secretary Napolitano removed the person who was responsible for this report. She has apologized.
Watch it:
Kilmeade and McCain are wrong. The section of DHS that produced the report was the Extremism and Radicalization Branch in the Homeland Environment and Threat Analysis Division. That division is overseen by the Under Secretary for the Office of Intelligence and Analysis. Currently, Roger Mackin — a Bush appointee — is serving in that role.
ThinkProgress spoke with DHS spokesperson Amy Kudwa who confirmed that neither Mackin — nor anyone else at the agency — has been fired over the report. Yesterday, the White House did announce President Obama’s nominee to replace Mackin — Philip Mudd, who has been Associate Executive Assistant Director of the FBI’s National Security Branch since August 2005. Kudwa said that this move was “categorically unrelated” to the right-wing extremism report. Mackin has been serving in an acting capacity, and Obama had been planning to replace him with his own nominee before the report came out. Mackin will still be serving in government, going to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence “on a detail.”
Although Napolitano has said that she stands by the report’s conclusions, Kudwa told ThinkProgress, “As the Secretary has said publicly, though, the report shouldn’t have gone out in the form that it did. We’ve addressed that process to ensure it does not happen in the future.”
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When facts don’t suit your rhetoric, just ignore them, or make up some of your own.
Now why didn’t I try that in college…?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:16 pmThe report is based on fact, something alien to Newscorp in general. I guess they were shocked to see a report come out of DHS that wasn’t the product of a Rovian intrigue. As for McCain, he was an embarrassment during the campaign, he’s no better now.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:17 pmMore manufactured and false outrage from the Reichwingnuts.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmIt just goes to show that the Republicans HATE real facts. Why would anyone believe or listen a damn thing that comes outta their mouths.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmWHAT!!!???
Fux was wrong!?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pmDHS Tells ThinkProgress: Fox is Wrong
It’s now official, and way overdue.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pmI sure would like to see or get a list of Republicans who have shares at Faux News?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pmDHS Tells ThinkProgress: Fox is Wrong
Next headlines:
“DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Sky is Blue”
“DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Rush is Fat”
“DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Sun is Hot”
“DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Republicans Are Party of No”
I know it’s Friday guys, but shooting fish in a barrel? That’s so beneath you… ;-{)
April 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pmOf course you look to TP for truth in reporting.
The greatest source for real reporting and facts.
It must be dark inside a closed mind.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:29 pmThank you TP – I appreciate you all tracking this down!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:29 pmGrampy McSame says-My friends, back in the day we didn’t need facts, we just made stuff up, we all made up tall tales, why I would come up with big ones, real biiiigggg ones, how the moon was made of cheese, the world is flat, and my favorite was that Republicans were for responsible government, that was my favorite, but people started reading more books and then that damn inters-nets tubes and stuff, that stuff doesn’t help at all, no sir, now people who want to look things up can do just that, I sure don’t want that, why people can look stuff up and find out that I lie about darn near everything…that Palin she sure was a good liar, that’s why I picked her, she would lie with the best of them….opps, I sat in a cream pie….I think….it’s kinda warm though.
We all know you guys just make crap up gramps, go back to sleep.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pm“YUP”
April 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pmjay Says:
It must be dark inside a closed mind.
The definition of a closed mind is someone who refuses to look at facts when expressing their view of the world. Please shows us the facts that lead you to this conclusion…
hehehehheh, like THAT’s going to happen
April 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmjay Says:
American Patsy Says:
Bottom line, fired.
“YUP”
I’d glad that Jay’s in favor of getting rid of all those rotten Bush appointees and replacing them with Obama appointees.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmI see neither McCain or the Fox idiots have mentioned that the report was written by a Bush appointee.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmThis is just an attempt to change the subject from the torture issue. These guys have nothing better to do than to act outraged over an issue that is a fact? These righties are scared shitless. Next Monday, Pew polling is releasing the results of a poll to see whether Americans want to see the toture issue prosecuted. I can’t wait.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pmhey look! its “special jay”
he must be here to get his a$$ handed to him again by RHF
poor little ignorant coward is a masochist too!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pmJay and patsy get their news from Santa. He’s that big, fat guy who lives in a fantasy world. Oh wait, so sorry, I was confusing legend with reality.
They listen to Rush.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:36 pmhey jay, I had a dream last night with you in it.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pmI dreamt my ass was a mud-hole and you were a hog just a-rootin’ in it.
The “Peter Principal”.
This is called being fired in the political world. “YUP”
April 24th, 2009 at 1:37 pmraynman Says:
jay Says:
It must be dark inside a closed mind.
Listen to him. He speaks from experience. His mind supports the largest collection of anaerobic fungus on the planet.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmamazing how hard special jay and american pansy work so hard to prove that they are ignorant sheep afraid of their own shadow
really guys, you proved that many times over, you can take a break now
April 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmHi there Tommy. Nothing to add I see. People like you can never hand me anything. Ignorance is the most expensive commodity in the world. It must be nice to know that you are worth something Tommy.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pmAll the GOP are going to do for the next 8 years: 1) Obstruct; 2) Say no; 3) Say the opposite no matter what; 4) Complain no matter what; 5) Misinform no matter what; 6) Lie; 7) cheat; 8) Create a atmosphere of fear; 9) Stage delusional alternate realities; 10) Take the meaning of God’s love out of context, et al……..
Misery do love company, just look at the GOP.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pmJust like you liberals.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pmaww, poor little special jay, still afraid of everything
tsk tsk
glad to see you still don’t have a life
I have a gig tonight, but I’ll check back in after sound check to see if you are still here demonstrating your cowardly ignorance
April 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pmit is SOOO easy to pull special jay’s strings
watch him spin out now
lol, he can’t help himself
April 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmLet me get this right ~
“jay” arrives with nothing to contribute, and then proceeds to claim intellectual superiority over all other commenters, while proving the opposite.
Is this the game?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmThis is called being fired in the political world. “YUP”
–
April 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmSo you are arguing the Fox story as an accurate depiction of events?
Turn the lights on Pal.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmGeez — did McCaim get ANYTHING right on his F&F teevee appearance? It’s kind of unusual that his BS level was high enough for two TP threads from one interview — even for him.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:44 pmJust as accurate as the one sided information that is posted here on TP. You do have an agenda here, don’t you?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThere is a difference between “firing” someone and finding an official replacement. Heck, you might call it a demotion that has been planned for a while. But reports are stating that Mackin’s new role had been determined before this report.
Just for the record, if Fox ends up correcting their previous statement about the “firing”, I hope jay and Patsy have the heart to admit they jumped the gun.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmanswer this, special jay:
did your last thought die of loneliness or did you choke it out of spite?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmMaybe in Republican doublespeak. The rest of the world calls it getting transferred. What do you have to say about the guy who wrote this “scathing” report being a Bush appointee?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmIts amazing that some politicians are for political extremism given the actions of Tim McVeigh
April 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmSo you really have nothing important to add to the discussion?
What’s your game?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmHope says:
For the next 8 years….
In other words, a continuation of the last 8 years.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmI might ask you the same question Tommy. You do deal in Rants, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmMcCain is an idiot ideologue, imo! Not too long ago he sat at the table with AZ Gov. Janet Napolitano and introduced her to the Senate Committee that oversaw her confirmation hearing…he was more or less a cheerleader for her….now he is an accuser of something that she did not do….but yet as the DHS Director she is willing to be the fall guy….for the Bush appointee who isn’t man enough to come to his boss’s defense. Shameful!!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmIt kinda looks that way.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:49 pmso special jay still can’t answer the question
it is funny how easy it is to make him dance, though
April 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pmBut Jay, I’m just trying to save that collection of yours for scientific posterity. Mankind needs to view the example of how fungus can grow in the dark if we are ever to understand trollish psychology.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pmJust as accurate as the one sided information that is posted here on TP. You do have an agenda here, don’t you?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pm—
So either Fox is one sided and intentionally misleading or TP isn’t is this the false dichtomony you wish to try to establish?
I know everything is confusing for you but Fox is supposedly a “fair and balance” news channel and TP is a PROGRESSIVE blog. People only come here voluntarily while all of us have to subsidize Fox Lies as long as we receive cable.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pmu?
Our friend jay has a particular focus on people he thinks are “playing games”.
I wonder why that is…
April 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pmjay, I truly want to thank you for your contributions to TP. You provide a very useful service to our country. I encourage you to continue posting as much as possible.
Your ignorance, bias, and nonsense provide the contrast that highlights the intelligence, fairness, and truth of regular TP commentators.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pmWhat is shameful is that Napolitano is in the position that is responsible for the security of the country and she thinks that the terrorists of 9/11 came into the country from Canada.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pmHow, Mr McCain, is downplaying extremism, left or right, helping to protect against another attack [as McVeigh did] on America?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pmdance special jay, dance
you look just like Dubya in your cheerleading outfit
shake those pompoms!
April 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pmTP doesn’t have an agenda and they never post propaganda, only the truth. Hey, I have some dry land in Florida for sale at a really good price. I also know where you can buy the Brooklyn Bridge.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pmStill nothing to add from you Tommy? Keep up that image.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmok, special jay is just too easy
can we get some trolls with more than an 8th grade reading comprehension?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmSeriously. It would be so much easier on his tap shoes if jay would just answer a direct question once in awhile.
But he is an energetic little hoofer, ain’t he?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:55 pmThose aren’t pompoms. He’s wearing a grass skirt. Aloha Jay.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pmknew I could make ya dance, thanks for the proof
April 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pmHi there Ralph. Tell me, do you rely on TP as a credible source to quote from?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:57 pmok, have fun picking on special jay, I gotta go
cya after sound check
April 24th, 2009 at 1:57 pmSo jay, does TP just pop up on your computer screen forcing you to read their opinion of things?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pmjay Says:
Uncle Ho Says:
Hope says:
For the next 8 years….
In other words, a continuation of the last 8 years.
It kinda looks that way.
Just as a service to you, jay, Hope and Uncle Ho were commenting about the GOP:
You would agree that this is what the GOP will do for the next eight years?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pmSee ya Tommy. Cut and run as usual.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pmHey, dbadass… if I’m reading the sarcasm correctly in jay’s comment, it would appear that he’s acknowledging that Faux News has presented an inaccurate version of this story.
Is that your read as well?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmJay, you pitiful, fungus laden soul. Yes, TP has an agenda. To provide a blog site for people to post their views. Is it left/progressive oriented? Duh, check the name.
April 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmGee jay you’re saying others cut and run but you haven’t answered one of my questions yet. Scared?
April 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmNo, jay, I don’t. If I’m using information found on TP to support an argument, I will go back to the original source.
Do you rely on Faux News as a credible source from which to quote?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pmSeems like that’s what he’s saying. But it’s OK that Fox is wrong because he believes that TP is wrong although he can’t post one example of that.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmMy point is that the past 8 years are turning out to be the next 4 years. I say 4 years because Obie won’t be around for 8 years.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmLiberals don’t scare me Mr Doodle. Fire away.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pmMakes me think of that Zappa song, dancing fool…
Hey, what the heck. StupidJay and American Pansy are obviously being paid to post, so we are doing our part – Contributing the the success of Obama’s stimulus recovery!
I am sure thay can get behind that!
OT: Ranting Tommy, have a nice gig.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmI’ve seen him in action, Shayne, and he’s not kidding.
He’s never faced a question from a liberal he couldn’t duck. So fire away and watch him dance.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmjay Says:
My point is that the past 8 years are turning out to be the next 4 years. I say 4 years because Obie won’t be around for 8 years.
I’m glad you corrected yourself, because that wasn’t the original content. Just so that no one burned you for this in the future.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pmTrolls don’t burn, they just melt stinkily as they are made of plastic. They sure as hell aren’t real.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:06 pmjay Says:
So you really have nothing important to add to the discussion?
Do YOU?
You come in here full of insults disrupting the thread. What is your deal?!
What an ass.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pmjay Says:
Hey, I have some dry land in Florida for sale at a really good price. I also know where you can buy the Brooklyn Bridge.
I admire your dedication to self-improvement, jay. This is such a quantum-leap positive change from your past attempts to sell a link between AQ and Saddam Hussein, the presence of WMD in Iraq, the efficacy and morality of torture, and the McCain/Palin candidacy. Perhaps by 2012 you might truly be in the reality-based community.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pmThanks for admitting that the information isn’t a credible source for information. I already knew that was your position from a past conversation with you.
As for your question Ralph, no I don’t rely on any one source for my information. I get information from many sources but I kinda like ESPN and I also read a lot. I kinda am addicted to the proceedings on floor of the House and the Senate. I also like the Constitution in it’s literal sense.
Sometimes I get information from CNN but I only watch MSNBC for its hilarity.
I never rely on TP because of it’s agenda and bias. The liberal here are amusing thought, I have to admit that.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmHey, dbadass… if I’m reading the sarcasm correctly in jay’s comment, it would appear that he’s acknowledging that Faux News has presented an inaccurate version of this story.
Is that your read as well?
– Can’t really see how it could be read any other way. Way does he seem to be suggesting someone named Obie will be deceased in less than 8 years? Magic Eightball?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pmI have pretty much decided that;
A. Conservative failed reading classes because they are unable to actually comprehend what they read, but instead need Hannity or Rush to explain it to them
and
B. Live in some alternative bizzaro reality that intersects with the real world, but the more sane of us cannot visit nor see it.
I just do not get the Faux!Outrage over this report.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pmIt say rightwing extremist MIGHT be violent, they MIGHT target vets….no where does it say conservatives and vets are right-wing extremists.
shesh
Hey I never said Obie would be “deceased” in less than 8 years but if you think he will be then you’re entitled to your opinion.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmObie Wan transcended under Darth’s light saber. Maybe Jay is confusing movies with life.
Or maybe he’s just confused.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pmYou mean the Olbermann comedy and propaganda show. He’s pretty funny. The Neck is also pretty funny also.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pmA troll obsessing over KO. Deja vu.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm“Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.”
Mark Twain
April 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pmNothing important to add to the conversation Hooda? Trying to drive me off topic as usual I see.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pmA wise man. Educated by world experience and observations.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:15 pmjay Says: Nothing important to add to the conversation Hooda? Trying to drive me off topic as usual I see.
Looks in bag, selects club Anyone for Putt Putt golf?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pmStill nothing to say Hooda?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pmYou know, folks, we really should look on the bright side of this whole thing:
What’s left of the GOP has finally admitted that they are a bunch of extremists.
I mean, that’s gotta be it, right? Because when the report on left-wing extremism came out, I didn’t see anyone on the left blast it as accusing them of being extremists who need be monitored and investigated … probably because 99% of us aren’t actually, you know, extremists.
Yet here is a Senator/presidential candidate and Fox talking head joining pretty much everyone else on the right in blasting a report on right wing “extremism” because they think it applies to them.
Not sure why they’d willingly categorize themselves as such, but … well, they are.
Says a lot about the modern GOP, don’t it?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pmSorry, Jay, it is difficult to laugh and type at the same time.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pmTalk is cheap Ralph. C’mon Mr. Doodle. Try to avoid the Liberal talking points though. I’ve heard them all. Be original.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pmTrying to drive me off topic as usual I see.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pm—
My you just state your topic thesis in such a way as to make it a little more clear? Afterwards we can discuss it and you can defend it with well conceived, informed, and witty responses while I just f uck with you. What do you say?
http://www.fbi.gov/publications/terror/terrorism2002_2005.pdf
FBI Report on Terrorism 2002 – 2005 released in 2007.
“The terrorism preventions for 2002 through 2005 present a more diverse threat
picture. Eight of the 14 recorded terrorism preventions stemmed from right- wing extremism, and included disruptions to plotting by individuals involved with the militia, white supremacist, constitutionalist and tax protestor, and anti- abortion movements.”
2002-2005….hmmmmm, now which admistration was in power at the time that would release such INCENDIARY information?
this of course is not even to mention the ridiculous mis-interpretation of this DHS report. It’s nothing but political hot air from a political party in death throes.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pmWow jay is threatening the death of President Obama. Have officials been notified?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pm69. jay Says: My point is that the past 8 years are turning out to be the next 4 years.
Oh, you mean we’re going to allow a terrorist attack while the President hides in an elementary school classroom, ignore the PDB, hurry the binLaden family out of the country, create a secret branch of government that supersedes the Constitution, turn America into a torture state, give away palates of cash to a hole in the Persian Gulf, fabricate intel and torture people into claiming there’s a link between Iraq and 9-11, invade a sovereign nation that didn’t attack us, out an intelligence agent, occupy a foreign country and destroy their air and water and land with depleted uranium, experiment on children, imprison and torture innocent people, leave an entire American city to drown while the President stays on vacation and the Secretary of State goes shoe shopping, take a surplus and turn it into the biggest deficit in history, drive the economy into the second Great Depression, appointed more convicted criminals to administration
positions than any president in US history, signed more laws and executive orders amending the
Constitution than any other US president in history, cut health care benefits for war veterans, dissolved more international treaties than any
president in US history, the first president in US history to compel the
United Nations to remove the US from the Human Rights
Commission?….etcetera…etcetera…
Nah…after the last 8 years, there’s definitely no where to go but up…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:19 pmGee, jay, that’s not what I said.
I see now why you have so much trouble with reading comprehension. You seem to jump to unwarranted conclusions that often reinforce your own prejudices.
I didn’t say it was “not a credible source”. I didn’t say anything like that, and I suspect you now it.
The reason I don’t rely on TP while building arguments is that I don’t expect an adversary to accept it as a credible source. I prefer to build the strongest argument possible, and to give an adversary as little as possible to use as a criticism. TP is a partisan source, and as I wouldn’t accept the reporting of Newsmax or WorldNutDaily as credible, neither do I expect someone like you to accept TP.
I notice you answered a different question than the one I asked. Instead of answering whether you found a particular source (Faux News) credible, you dodged and claimed that you don’t “rely on any one source”.
So I’ll ask you again, as straight-forwardly as i can:
Do you consider Faux News as a credible source from which to quote?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:20 pmI see jay’s been here to crap all over the thread. Just so I don’t have to plow through all of it — can anybody tell me if he’s offered any intelligent rebuttal to the actual topic of the thread?
No?
I didn’t think so. Poor Republicans — they’ve gone out on a limb to castigate this DHS report, even going so far as to accuse Obama of fascism, make sneering remarks about the sexual orientation of the report’s authors, threaten to secede from the Union, and other extreme reactions.
Funny thing, though. The report was ordered by Bush, and the guy who headed the division responsible for it was a Bush appointee. And it wasn’t a report solely for the purpose of picking on conservatives — a similar report on left-wing extremists has come out fairly recently, too. No matter what lame argument the wingnuts bring up, facts are easily found to debunk it.
Which brings us to trolls like jay. They’ve run out of points they can seriously argue, so they resort to the absurdity of random trash talk.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmNothing I can ever say will be clear to you db.
You have something to ask me fire away. No liberal talking points though. No vulgarity either. Vulgarity is a sign of a week mind.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pmDrive you off topic? When have you been on topic? All you do is claim TP is too biased to pay attention to but you haven’t posted one link to dispute the facts. Do you ever address any real issues or are you the typical rightwing nut just run around saying it’s not my fault, it’s not my fault. Cowards every one.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pmYou would know, jay.
First of all, jay… Shayne is a “Ms.”
Second of all, nicely done, setting up your excuse beforehand. All you’ll have to do now to avoid Shayne’s question is claim it’s based on “Liberal talking points” and you’re home free!
Clever. Very clever.
And you accuse us of “playing games”…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pm101. jay Says:Vulgarity is a sign of a week mind.
“They killed irony! You b@stards!…”
April 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmNo liberal talking points, no liberal talking points. What are you a freaking parrot?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmJay, if you want to truly discuss things, answer the many questions that have been asked of you in a straight forward, honest fashion. If you just want to spout Republican talking points…
Do you still wear the Star Wars undies?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmWeek mind?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmOkay first question. Why will nothing you say be clear to me?
Question two: Is there a point here you are trying to make this day and if so what is it?
Lenny Bruce and George Carlin had great minds…
jay
Would you like to address the comment by Realness at 97?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pmA week mind. Defines a Republican because they can only remember a week ago. Sometimes not even that long.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pmRalph I asked you if you considered TP a credible source to quote from.
Your answer was, “No, Jay I don’t”.
Is it a credible source to quote from or not?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:27 pmDon’t you just love it when trolls not only answer their own questions but ignore the responses they asked for?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:29 pmSkim skim skim… crap, another jay thread. Now this one’s going to go to 900 posts of insults and derailments and completely lose any coherence to the topic. Great.
Anyhoo, when did Napolitano apologize, like McCain said? I never saw that.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:29 pmC’mere Jay….say something substantive so I can beat you over the head with your own ignorance…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pmJay, are those Super Friends Huggies binding?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pm“Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view”
Wise man. Dare I say genius
April 24th, 2009 at 2:30 pmNot really. It’s not my post. He has the right to believe as he does.
How about you? What do you think?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:31 pmWell Hooda, is this the extent of your intelligence. Nothing important to contribute to the discussion?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pmSomething intelligent like your post, right?
No thanks, I’m a grown up.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pmjay:
April 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pmYou seem to talk about intelligence quite a bit. Care to share your curriculum vitae with us? Those who spend the most time questioning the intelligence of others usually are threatened by intelligence and have to pretend to compensate. It is sort of a Zelig thing…
No thanks, I’m a grown up.
—
I can tell…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:35 pmjay Says:
No liberal talking points though.
I would kind of think that any non-liberal would quite reasonably view the blog of the Center for American Progress as nothing but “liberal talking points.” I mean, that’s a perfectly fair characterization for the news and opinions put out by a liberal think tank.
Perhaps you’re in the wrong place?
Also if I may make a minor request, I think everybody would appreciate it if you traded in some of the quantity of short posts for less frequent posts that were more wordy. That would make for a more readable page. This ain’t exactly a chat room, you know.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWell Bruce, if you look at the posts made to me, it’s the liberal attack pooches who are driving the subject off topic.
You people do it not me.
Napolitano never did apologize to the vets. I didn’t see it either.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:36 pmJay…read 119 again. You were challenged to say something substantive. You…refused.
No grownup misses seeing that coming…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pmHey ElBruce, this is what I found:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/16/napolitano.apology/index.html
IMO, I don’t think she should’ve apologized, if only for the MISINTERPRETATION that was placed on it, but I understand that the Republicans strong armed the conversation from the beginning. this isn’t very rational, and I wish people were reading the text more.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:38 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
Funny thing, though. The report was ordered by Bush, and the guy who headed the division responsible for it was a Bush appointee. And it wasn’t a report solely for the purpose of picking on conservatives — a similar report on left-wing extremists has come out fairly recently, too. No matter what lame argument the wingnuts bring up, facts are easily found to debunk it.
I have been trying my level best to explain this to the people so worried about this report for days. Responses to these facts range from “You are too naive to understand the implications of the DHS report” to “We need automatic weapons to defend ourselves against an increasingly violent and hostile government”. I do not understand what happened in the last few months to turn so many self-styled patriotic americans into a bunch of armed insurrectionists. I’m starting to get a little worried…..
April 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmSo if I understand what you’re saying Bruce is no one on a liberal web site is capable of posting anything other than “Liberal Talking Points”. I have to agree with you there. It doesn’t seem to be possible.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmMarkD Says:
Yet here is a Senator/presidential candidate and Fox talking head joining pretty much everyone else on the right in blasting a report on right wing “extremism” because they think it applies to them.
Not sure why they’d willingly categorize themselves as such, but … well, they are.
Says a lot about the modern GOP, don’t it?
Well, they do seem to be comfortable in the presence of people like Timothy McVeigh and people who bomb abortion clinics or shoot physicians. But, we all knew that the entire Republican’t party is nothing more than a pack of right wing extremists. Personally I view them as American terrorists.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmI have to agree with you there. It doesn’t seem to be possible.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pm—
So what is with all the liberal talking points you have bben posting there jay? Come on my man try to make it more challenging…
Jay:
It must be dark inside a closed mind.
Nothing important to contribute to the discussion?
You have yet to contribute anything here and call progressives closed minded.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmGood suggestion Bruce. I agree. Tell that to Hooda and the all the other one line posters of non sensible one line insults.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:41 pmOh and when you get a chance jay can you get back to me as to 108? Thanks-
April 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pmJay, you make claims. You post no proof or substance.
Why take you seriously, particularly when you arrive with smothering preconceptions? Who cares what you think of TP; right now people’re just waiting for you to post anything substantive in order to smack down the ignorance that led to your ridiculous preconceptions.
You dance around anything you could get nailed for because you’re a coward limited to drive-by superficiality.
Another *yawn* impressive conservative.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pmjay Says:
So if I understand what you’re saying Bruce is no one on a liberal web site is capable of posting anything other than “Liberal Talking Points”. I have to agree with you there. It doesn’t seem to be possible.
Hey, I didn’t get the Memo with this week’s “Liberal Talking Points”. MoveOn, Soros should have emailed them to me by now, but I guess he was too busy planning to overtake the world with those Atheist Islamofascinazis, the Code Pink girls, and the alien abductors of Omicron VI.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmYou know what, Jay?
That report was perfect as issued, and insulted no one.
Nice mountain, though – how many molehills did it take?
What else have you feigned outrage over lately?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmAnother good suggestion db. I don’t post liberal anything db. I’m only trying to field all the attacks that are being made on me. It’s tough though, I’m only one person against how many now, 5 or six?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pmI am unsure jay is a conservative.I think jay is an attention seeker.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:44 pm134. Luis Chapulin M Says: Hey, I didn’t get the Memo with this week’s “Liberal Talking Points”. MoveOn, Soros should have emailed them to me by now, but I guess he was too busy planning to overtake the world with those Atheist Islamofascinazis, the Code Pink girls, and the alien abductors of Omicron VI.
…who use abortion clinics as fronts for their global warming propaganda and tasty peanut brittle…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmI kinda was insulted by it and from the conversations that I have had with fellow vets many others were also offended.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:45 pmIt was a classic case of using the sensitve veterans issue (sprinkled in there with an ominous connection of “mainstream Republicans” with right-wing extremists) as a political tool to ramp up fear against the Obama administration. The Republicans continue to have nothing except parlor tricks and tribalism.
How quickly people forgot the GOP’s lack of support for veterans- in the form of cuts in services and benefits for our troops. It’s the GOP’s elitist disdain of our troops that’s the reality, completely contrary to their patriotic messaging.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pmJay, if you ever come in here and ask for an honest debate that is not laden with Republican talking points, you would find some of the sharpest and most open minds you are ever likely to find.
This requires honest responses with factual information that does not come from some other talking point generator. You asked Ralph if he thought TP was a quotable source and he responded by saying that information on TP and its posts are generally linked to other, reputable sources.
If you want discussion, then discuss. If you want validation, check with the business you went to to pay for your parking.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm139. jay Says: I kinda was insulted by it and from the conversations that I have had with fellow vets many others were also offended.
Oh God, another fake-vet sockmonkey…
April 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmWell from the person who just objected to one liners you don’t seem to hold yourself to the same standard that you try and force on others.
We are all attention seekers here or are you that naive?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmAnother good suggestion db. I don’t post liberal anything db. I’m only trying to field all the attacks that are being made on me. It’s tough though, I’m only one person against how many now, 5 or six?
— To suggest you don’t seems incongruent with your earlier statement
“So if I understand what you’re saying Bruce is no one on a liberal web site is capable of posting anything other than “Liberal Talking Points”. I have to agree with you there. It doesn’t seem to be possible.”
That is your quote is it not?
Here is an idea why not focus just on me for a little while?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pmYou don’t bother me with that comment hanshiro. I put up with it for 40 years from the left.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmWe are all attention seekers here or are you that naive?
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April 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmNaive? No just a student of behavior…
It was in reply to what Bruce posted to me but of course you left that part out of the post you just made.
How dishonest of you db. No matter, it’s what you do, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pmdbadass Says:
I am unsure jay is a conservative.I think jay is an attention seeker.
And the posters here are doing a bang up job at giving him what he is looking for. Why not ignore him. He hasn’t said anything worth replying to so why waste your time and effort?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pmjay Says:
I kinda was insulted by it and from the conversations that I have had with fellow vets many others were also offended.
Offended because they didn’t want extremist right-wingers to approach and enlist them, or offended because they _are_ extremist right-wingers who don’t want the rest of the American public to see their methods of enlisting veterans?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pm145.jay Says: You don’t bother me with that comment hanshiro. I put up with it for 40 years from the left.
Yeah, they don’t like phonies…
Only a shameless pussy would pose as a soldier online. Conservatives are literally bottomless when it comes to depths to which they will sink.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pmWell from the person who just objected to one liners you don’t seem to hold yourself to the same standard that you try and force on others.
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April 24th, 2009 at 2:52 pmAh jay my man you just f ucked up again. I protest not as to oneliners. Weren’t you the one making slightly veiled suggestions about the intelligence of others. Seems you have stuck your dancing foot in it again…
Geez, Jay – I thought you guys were a little tougher than all that. Pretty thin skins, if you ask me.
Maybe you ought to show us what-for, and blow up a Federal Building somewhere, huh?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:53 pm148:
April 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmWell I can’tspeak for others but for myself I am interested in social behaviorin electronic environments. Feel free to discuss around me and my specialized interest.
cheers-
Jay is inadvertantly keeping with the topic by demonstrating Fox’s tactic for keeping things “fair and balanced” for all these years: Whirlwind BS. Plain and simple.
He’s not worth anyone’s time or effort, seriously. One confronts him, he goads to get a response. He twists words. He attempts to get you to trip over your own words, then uses them against you, or quotes you out of context.
Seriously, he’s not worth it.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says: He hasn’t said anything worth replying to so why waste your time and effort?
All too true but a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmjay Says:
tombaker Says: That report was perfect as issued, and insulted no one.
I kinda was insulted by it
Please quote the part that you were insulted by.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:54 pmGreat post Bilbo. They can’t ignore me because they are also attention seekers. Always looking to insult someone with an opposing view. It is what goes on here every time I make a simple post on the topic at hand. They drive it off topic and make it personal. It’s what you do, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pmJay is a wealth of personalities…russki one day, soldier-boy the next, physician/drywall hanger the next; Hey Jay, anonymity means never having to be authentic…right?
Bahahahahahaha!
April 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmjay, realness posted an actual link to a government report that was issued by Bush appointees during Bush’s administration but your refuse to address it. In fact you address nothing because everything you disagree with you label a liberal talking point. It’s not really your fault. The retards you idiots elect do the same thing.
FLAGGED FOR WASTING EVERYBODY’S TIME WITH NO INTENTION OF DISCUSSING ANYTHING.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pmThat comment wasn’t unexpected from someone like you. I’ve heard that one before. It’s like saying all Democrats cheat and rob and swindle people like Maddov did.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:57 pm“Today’s conservatives remind me of nothing so much as an elderly lab chicken, used in countless undergrad psychology experiments, but now abandoned in its dotage. Over and over again, it keeps pecking the red bar, even though the last time a food pellet actually appeared was in 2004. Peck! Let’s play the race card! Peck! Let’s play the taxes card! Peck! Let’s play the deficits card! Peck! Let’s play the gay card! Peck! Let’s play the foreign bogeyman card! Peck! Peck! Peck!
Sh!t! No food pellets! The red bar is in tatters, the chicken’s beak is worn down to a nub, but still it pecks, and still no food pellets.”
(David Michael Green)
http://www.counterpunch.org/green04242009.html
April 24th, 2009 at 2:58 pmLuis Chapulin M Says:
jay Says:
I kinda was insulted by it and from the conversations that I have had with fellow vets many others were also offended.
Offended because they didn’t want extremist right-wingers to approach and enlist them, or offended because they _are_ extremist right-wingers who don’t want the rest of the American public to see their methods of enlisting veterans?
Great question Luis.
Or more simply Jay, what were you insulted by?
April 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmThey can’t ignore me because they are also attention seekers. Always looking to insult someone with an opposing view. It is what goes on here every time I make a simple post on the topic at hand.
April 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pm—
jay can you just take a position and stick with it so we can discuss it? Come on now. Let’s chat about a topic…
A very funny post from you Doodle.
FLAGGED FOR BEING STUPID AND ABUSIVE.
Good for “Realness”. Does it need to be posted again by me? I don’t think so.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmLike I said more than once here today db, lets get to it.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:02 pmFine so go back to 108 and deal with it
April 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmjay, what part of the DHS report did you find insulting?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmFine so go back to 108 and deal with it
April 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmLike I said more than once here today db, lets get to it.
Ok then, what in the report insulted you?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmJay…
No insults, no liberal talking points, no name-calling. Let’s stick to one topic, because I would like to know what you think about this.
You said you, and some vets you know, felt insulted by the report. What part of the report did you find insulting?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmIs lack of coherency a reason to flag? Jay has been asked repeatedly to provide some sort of coherent response and has barely managed to even provide entertainment.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmjay
April 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pmStrike those two that should have been one. Why don’t we just agree to pick up with # 167 and 169? Can you do that?
I was insulted by the insinuation that vets should be watched because they may present a danger to the nation by joining radical groups who oppose the government.
There are 10 million vets in this country and the left seems to see only one who blew up a building.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:07 pmOr like saying that all anti-American proponents of torture donated 100% only to the Republican party.
FLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 3:10 pmjay says:
I was insulted by the insinuation that vets should be watched because they may present a danger to the nation by joining radical groups who oppose the government.
This is your interpretation, not a quote. Please provide the quote from the report on which you base the “insinuation”.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pmThat ISN’T what the report said. It said that right wing extremist would try to target returning soldiers. It is in the best interest of veterans to not be recruited by maniacs who would have them sacrifice their own welfare to do the bidding of the cowardly right wing who won’t do anything on their own.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pmI never said that but I disagree with it. Do you agree with that statement Mr. Doodle?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:13 pmI view Vets the same as every other citizen of the Country. They may be great, or they may be awful – just like any other group – there is no blanket generality that applies to all – and that report suggested nothing of the sort
I’ve met a lot of Vets right here at this website – none of them take the extreme grudge-holding p.o.v. you seem to prefer.
p.s. Who pays for the VA and the military??? All of us, or just the people you like to agree with?
p.p.s. How do you feel about all the Gang members currently enlisted – should they all get a free pass to go back to the thug life when they come home?
get the chip off your shoulder, bud – it’s makin’ you walk crooked.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:14 pmWhat does Mark Twain have to say about insinuations? Maybe I should instead ask what David Byrne does…
April 24th, 2009 at 3:15 pmSeriously jay, how about we stick to the actual report or perhaps the topic of the thread. You felt Fox was intentionally misleading if I remember correctly. Does that remain the case?
So is that a reason to focus on all the Vets returning from active service? Or of any vet?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:16 pmYes jay, I think only Republicans are defending the torture done by this country.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:16 pmIt didn’t focus on vets it focused on right wing extremists.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:19 pmYou don’t remember that correctly and I suggest that you go back and read what I said. I was asked if I relied on fox news to form my opinions and I clearly stated that I didn’t.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:19 pmI was insulted by the insinuation that vets should be watched because they may present a danger to the nation by joining radical groups who oppose the government.
Sorry Jay, it’s the radical groups that the report says need to be watched. These groups are TARGETING vets.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmSo the Government shouldn’t of made any reference to the returning Vets in it’s report.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmSo is that a reason to focus on all the Vets returning from active service? Or of any vet?
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April 24th, 2009 at 3:21 pmWell that would seem to depend on whether or not you buy the bullshit that “everything changed after 9/11″ and that the government has to go to extraordinary efforts to protect the homeland for those who hate our freedoms and wish ill upon our nation and itscitizens I would suppose, wouldn’t you?
jay:
April 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmCorrect me if I am wrong but hasn’t the earlier mantra been if you have nothing to hide you should have nothing to fear? Would this same logic not apply to any vet returning or not?
jays says: So is that a reason to focus on all the Vets returning from active service? Or of any vet?
I just did a quick scan of the report. It says nothing about monitoring vets. It says that monitoring of extremist groups should continue. Again, can you quote the report itself to back up your assertions?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pmWell then we should investigate all those involved in the policy and it’s implementation. You will find that there were many Democrats involved in the decision and not just Republicans.
My opinion is to have everyone who knew about what was being done and bring them all to justice. All of them.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:23 pm188
April 24th, 2009 at 3:25 pmI don’t really think that is jay’s thing but I too would encourage him to do so. What do you say jay?
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April 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmjay I thought we agreed to stay on topic?
Jay, these groups TARGET vets because too many of them are vulnerable AND experienced with weapons and methods of war. If the report was about cults and recruiting freshman in college, would you think the report was insulting the freshman? Or would the report be an important warning for those TARGETED?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmYou don’t remember that correctly and I suggest that you go back and read what I said. I was asked if I relied on fox news to form my opinions and I clearly stated that I didn’t.
—jay I am talking about our discussions not yours with others. Still I think it best we stay on topic. Is that okay with you? It seems you are easily distracted.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pmI absolutely agree with 188, Jay, it would definitely cement your insuation as a valid point if you could actually quote the report to substantiate.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:29 pmjay Says:
Another good suggestion db. I don’t post liberal anything db. I’m only trying to field all the attacks that are being made on me. It’s tough though, I’m only one person against how many now, 5 or six?
And there you see a troll wriggling in joy. Once again, jay/archie/whatever has succeeded in turning the thread into “all about me.” Pathetic.
At least y’all are keeping “jay” busy on this thread so it won’t track up another.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pmOld Goat is a wise goat. So what do you say jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pmMy opinion is to have everyone who knew about what was being done and bring them all to justice. All of them.
That’s fine, but the strongest punishment should be reserved for those who thought up and enabled the policy within the administration. Others could be considered accessories after the fact.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pmThe irony! It burns!
jay, did you ever answer the question I asked above?
I’ll restate it for you if you like…
Do you consider Faux News as a credible source from which to quote?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pmJay, if the report on leftist extremist groups said that these leftist group were targeting vets would you be equally insulted by the mentioning of the vets or would you be insulted at the leftist groups?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pm10 posts to reply to db. You took half a conversation and not the complete conversation. Stay on topic.
It was something that you took out of context by only posting half of the conversation.
Smoke and mirrors on your part pal.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmCould jay be jay/joenotplumbernotanything, perhaps?
Spelling, knowledge, belligerence, wit…all add up to Joethenothing.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmdbadass Says:
I am unsure jay is a conservative.I think jay is an attention seeker.
I was going to recommend skipping responding to personal attacks and focusing only on substantive points of debate, but then I realized he’s in danger of drawing me into the same thing.
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jay Says:
I kinda was insulted by it and from the conversations that I have had with fellow vets many others were also offended.
By reading the report, or by listening to what FAUX News and the Republicans told them it said? I’d be offended too, if it was the latter.
I can see somewhat where conservatives might be a little upset – if this wasn’t the same DHS that’s been infiltrating and wiretapping liberal groups for years. They’ve even infiltrated Quaker anti-war and pacifist groups. Quakers! But nobody except for liberals seemed to be at all concerned with that at the time.
OK, fine. So let’s go ahead and say it’s standard operating procedure for the DHS to keep at least one eye open for potential threats from political activist groups in the U.S. The left hasn’t really had any violent activist movements since the 70’s. The right is a much more potentially serious threat, especially now that they’re not in charge of all branches of government any more.
There are thousands of people returning from war zones with serious medical and/or mental problems associated with their service, and many of them are receiving insufficient consideration and treatment by the military. I don’t see it as all unlikely that some extremist right wing groups wouldn’t love to recruit them, and that at least some of those might consider leveraging their mental state and training to use them to commit violent acts at some point in the future. It’s not a highly probable scenario, but no violent threat scenario is.
To some extent, a measure of concern over the risk caused by creating a new population pool of discarded and unstable veterans is inevitable. Some number of any returning force has always had difficulty readjusting to society; the Hell’s Angels was created by just such veterans; movies like First Blood and The Deer Hunter compassionately illustrate the problems they face, as well as the problems they can cause.
This wasn’t intended to be insulting. Us liberals would like to see vets get not only the respect they deserve, but the help they need to make sure they don’t fall through society’s cracks. Not only because they might turn into ticking time bombs, but simply because it’s the right thing to do.
The last thing this group of veterans needs to come home to is a bunch of wingnuts howling about revolution, secession and taking up arms against the government. The very last thing a severe PTSD sufferer needs after waking up from a live-fire nightmare is to turn on the TV and see Michelle Bachmann telling us that we all need to “become armed and dangerous.” To have the wingnuts then whine that they’re insulted that they might be creating a very real problem just makes it worse. Taking umbrage doesn’t help anyone. And sweeping the very real problems that vets in every generation face just makes their problems worse.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmlol, i see jay is still dancing to my tune like a good little jester
too funny
April 24th, 2009 at 3:40 pmSmoke and mirrors on your part pal.
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April 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pmI disagree but whatever, now about this topic thingie and the suggestion that you point to something in the report which gives rise to your insinuation thingie? Will that be happening?
Correct as far as I can see. So do we just watch for Vulnerable vets or target all Vulnerable Americans who might be susceptible to these groups?
What about the Leftist groups who have the potential to damage the country? Another report that is out. I’m concerned to the categories that the Government is putting Americans in.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pmkeep whipping his a$$, rhf, jay is a glutton for punishment
most people would have been embarrassed after being exposed for the lies and the ignorance and the cowardice
but not our special jay, he just keeps dancing, all we have to do is pull his string and watch him go!
ok, gotta get back to setting up…peace!
April 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmNapolitano needs to be fired. She’s an anti-hetero, anti-military, self hating white without an ounce of intellectual gravitas.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmHi ralph:
April 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmThe best part was that jay confused me with someone else. I never commented on one liners one way or the other well other than to point that out…
jay Says:
What about the Leftist groups who have the potential to damage the country?
The DHS has published numerous reports on those.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmGuys, take it easy on jay. Can’t you see by the gibberish in post 205 that he’s disoriented?
Why, he’s not even answering direct questions! Let him be, I say!
April 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmCorrect as far as I can see. So do we just watch for Vulnerable vets or target all Vulnerable Americans who might be susceptible to these groups?
Perhaps you should address that to the folks who ordered the report made.
Wasn’t that the Bush administration?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmwithout an ounce of intellectual gravitas.
Someone’s been whacking Drew with a ironic crowbar, it would appear.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pmI see that the bigot is here with her lies.
It won’t be possible to discus anything rationally from this point on.
I refuse to reply to the bigot so keep this in mind.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pmdrew3rd Says:
She’s an anti-hetero, anti-military, self hating white…
I was going to say “anti-hetero?” all confused-like, but then you trumped that with “white.” What?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pmdbadass, I see you’ve been doing your share to keep the jukebox playing so jay keeps dancing.
How many pairs of pointe shoes do you think he goes through in a year?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pmrepugs are scum.
They have the nerve to talk about her sexual orientation.
They need to get out of men’s rooms and women’s panties.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmralph, would your professional opinion be that jay may be one of those dillusionals who in the face of all objective criteria would somehow create a mindset in which jay is the noble cyber warrior succeeding in fending off all comers to defend whatever mindset jay has created or do you think jay is just full of shit?
I need input from a learned colleague before I can finish this.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmBush has left the building. Obie is singing on the stage now.
Everything is on his shoulders now.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pm216
A cop out is a cop out.
And damn is THAT a cop out.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:51 pmdrew, next time try to draw first…or at least second. There might be some useful brains available then.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:51 pmHow many pairs of pointe shoes do you think he goes through in a year?
That pirouette with the toilet paper stuck to his shoe was hi-larious!
April 24th, 2009 at 3:51 pmYou dance to my whims people. Your stupidity to that fact is amusing.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmNapolitano needs to be fired. She’s an anti-hetero, anti-military, self hating white without an ounce of intellectual gravitas.
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April 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmWould it be a waste of time to ask to see the dataset from which you “drew” these conclusions?
Sleepy McCain doesn’t know what’s going on any more. Ignorance is escape for him.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmi find it interesting no one can field this one simple question:
how is it right wing commentators like becky seem to identify with right wing extrmist groups like stormfront and immediately conflate themselves with such groups when reports on “right wing entrmist groups” are released?
jay, would you like a go at it?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmjay, I still have not seen you provide a quote from the DHS report. Are you waiting for the musical version to come out?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmjay Says:
Bush has left the building. Obie is singing on the stage now.
Everything is on his shoulders now.
This doesn’t negate the fact that the Bush administration ordered the report that you’re complaining about. Do you really have a problem with the report, or are you just using it as an excuse to criticize Obama? Because that sounds like a confession.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pmYou dance to my whims people. Your stupidity to that fact is amusing
April 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pm—
jay weren’t you gonna stick to a topic and didn’t you get asked nicely to show us were in the report you drew your insinuation from? So which is it that you can’t or you won’t? I think it is time to call bullshit….
dbad, you haven’t figured out Napolitano is stupid, yet? Pathetic!
April 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pmdbadass, my considered opinion is that jay is just full of shit.
His diversions are neither grandiose enough nor are they intricate enough to hint at a mind working feverishly to maintain the emotional and intellectual underpinnings of its delusion. They’re more the psychic equivalent of throwing chairs in the way of people he’s annoyed who are now chasing him. Chairs that are easily hurdled, by the way.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pmWhat is being reported in this Nation is my concern. It’s a shallow view of the Vets who serve this country when called to do so.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/
April 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pmBush has left the building. Obie is singing on the stage now.
Everything is on his shoulders now.
Bush ordered the report made, and anyone who would criticize the next administration for it would only be showing his own ass in the process.
Feeling a little windy “back there” Jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:56 pmjay:
April 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pmdo you feel embarassed when you go back and read shit or do you just avoid doing so? Any objective reader sees the endless dodges and refusals to respond to direct questions? How do you feel about that and may I remind you that earlier this day you told me if I had any questions for you I should just ask them although I believe you suggested “fire away”. You haven’t answered any of them yet but maybe these will suit your fancy…
this whole report bruhaha was whipped up to the repukies to try to convince the american public they are relevent enough and powerful enough to warrant a report specifically about them. however, the last two election cycles have proven otherwise: they are irrelevent and impotent.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:58 pmYour inability to recognize of the stupidity of a phrase like “Your stupidity to that fact” is even more amusing.
Ready to answer my question?
Do you consider Faux News as a credible source from which to quote?
April 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pmdbadass Says:
Napolitano needs to be fired.
You do realize that if she hadn’t been picked to head DHS, John McCain would be losing to her in 2010, right? She was already polling ahead of him in Arizona.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pmFeeling a little narrow minded there barfly? Obie’s in office now and it’s all on his shoulders. It’s his turn to dance. Blaming everything on Bush has gotten old in this country. It’s time for him st get off the Campaign trail and go to work.
It’s the Obie administration and he is totally responsible for what goes on now.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:59 pmdrew3rd Says:
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dbad, you haven’t figured out Napolitano is stupid, yet? Pathetic!
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pmIf you don’t mind it is dbadass. Anyone are you acknowledging that what you posted was random opinion bullshit or can you actually articulate some logic relative to your statement?
You keep that thought. What if’s don’t mean squat.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pmlol, i love being able to read this on my cellphone while waiting for soundcheck
jay is the funniest parody of right wing idiocy i’ve seen
love how easy it is to make him dance
April 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pmElBruce at 242
April 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pmI think you got the wrong person there. I think you might be looking for drew3rd.
jay Says:
livelongandprosper Says:
Jay, if the report on leftist extremist groups said that these leftist group were targeting vets would you be equally insulted by the mentioning of the vets or would you be insulted at the leftist groups?
Correct as far as I can see. So do we just watch for Vulnerable vets or target all Vulnerable Americans who might be susceptible to these groups?
What about the Leftist groups who have the potential to damage the country? Another report that is out. I’m concerned to the categories that the Government is putting Americans in.
The vets are not being watched, the extremist groups are. The reports indicate that the right extremist groups are actively targeting vets but the left extremist groups are not. It doesn’t matter what the label of the group is. Any group targeting vets to promote extremism is an insult to all vets – to all Americans. Your original feeling of being insulted because vets were mentioned in the report seems to be a reaction as if you and fellow vets are being singled out somehow. That is not the case. The report says that vets are being targeted not school teachers or electricians.
I’m concerned to the categories that the Government is putting Americans in.
These reports were done on left and right groups. The middle is never that organized. I was concerned too when for years the government put people into one of two categories – patriotic and non-patriotic – and the basis for this was simple whether you agreed with them or not. This concern of yours here strikes me as not very authentic.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:01 pmjay Says:”Obie’s in office now and it’s all on his shoulders.”
so sayeth the assclown who i am sure blames bill clinton for us being attacked9-11
April 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pmAsked and answered Ralph. I don’t consider or rely on any single source to form my opinions.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pmjay, you’ve shown that you consider the Washington Times a credible source from which to quote.
Do you also consider Faux News as a credible source from which to quote?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pmjay Says:
It’s a shallow view of the Vets who serve this country when called to do so.
You know what, fcuk this. I spent a lot of time drafting #202 specifically because you were complaining about being personally attacked and indicated that you would be interested in debating topical issues in good faith. And then you just pretend it doesn’t exist?
Well, let’s take a look at your link…
This proves what now?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:04 pmWhat is being reported in this Nation is my concern. It’s a shallow view of the Vets who serve this country when called to do so.
Is that truly the best you can do? Since Bush is no longer president, why do you persist in harping on something the past administration did?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pmBozo is an appropriate name for you. You assume what people think. Is it dark inside a closed mind Bozo?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:06 pmjay says: What if’s don’t mean squat.
But..but…but…what if Iraq had WMD?…what if a terrorist has information about an imminent preventable attack?…what if the DHS report targets vets?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:06 pmjay@254
April 24th, 2009 at 4:07 pmI suppose we will have to agree that 9/11 is on Bush’s sholders. I am correct am I not?
dbadass Says:
I think you got the wrong person there. I think you might be looking for drew3rd.
No, YOU!!!
Just kidding. Quoting quotes can lead to typos sometimes.
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jay Says:
You keep that thought. What if’s don’t mean squat.
Unless dre3rd gets his wish, in which case she takes McCain’s seat. Heads we win, tails we win.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:07 pmIs that a “no”?
See, I explained why your answer was a dodge. It’s a simple yes or no question. When you asked me the same thing regarding TP (I let you go first this time, didya notice?) I answered “no” and explained why. You of course distorted what I’d said, but that’s to be expected.
Yet when asked the exact mirror image question, you fail to answer “yes” or “no”. Can you do so now?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pmBecause Obie accepted the report. It was spouted by one of his appointees.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pm243 jay says:
Blaming everything on bush has gotten old in this country? I don’t believe that is the case jay. On what do you base this claim? Please post a source that backs this up because I believe most of the polls disagree with you.
From what I can tell, Obama has the support of the majority because “this country” knows what a clusterfunk he inherited from the reichwingnuts.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pmso, jay:
April 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pmenlighten me: which president do you feel was responsible for us being attacked on 9-11?
So, can Jay give us a past instance when a government report, prepared at taxpayer’s expense, was shelved because the administration thought it’s findings too controversial for public consumption?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pmIt’s only relevant on lefty sites like this and to closed minded people like yourself.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pmjay appears to be tiring. His dancing has lost some of that Adrian Zmed-type vigor.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pmOBTW, how’s the dung thing working out for you?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pmBrock! Close minded! Brock!
Jay wants a cracker! Brock!
Close minded, close minded! Brock!
Jay’s a pretty troll! Brock!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:11 pmralph
April 24th, 2009 at 4:11 pmThere is no more likelihood that jay has the balls to answer your questions than jay has to acknowledge that by jays own logic 9/11 is upon the shoulders of Bush. jay will simply ignore, dodge, and look to redirect. jay is no longer amusing as jay is too weak to play with the big boys. drew3rd is making an idiotic attempt to equate open minds with idiocy a few threads above though having been shown foolish here…
Because Obie accepted the report. It was spouted by one of his appointees.
You do know that your points conflict, don’t you?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:12 pmCan you give me an instance where any report prepared by anyone at the tax payers expense that was accepted by the current sitting President isn’t relevant?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pmlol, looks like jay is running out of dance moves and is repeating himself more
poor little ignorant coward
April 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pmpsssstttt, jay:
April 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pma friendly heads up. the only irrelevent thing around here is your ideology as evidenced by the stunning losses in the last two election cycles.
barfly, special jay can hold opposing thoughts at the same time
he believes this is a overwhelmingly christian nation while also believing they are persecuted and in danger of being marginalized
he’s basically a lying moron
April 24th, 2009 at 4:14 pmbarfly Says:
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Because Obie accepted the report. It was spouted by one of his appointees.
You do know that your points conflict, don’t you?
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:14 pmOh that is just part of jay’s schtick.At first it seems odd than it just becomes amusingly ridiculous
To you maybe. Having a closed mind is a difficult handicap for you isn’t it?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:14 pmjay,
can you explain why you answered barfly’s question at 262 before mine at 261? let me repeat it for you:
which president do you feel was responsible for us being attacked on 9-11?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pmJay is just following a script. He has his talking points that he is supposed to repeat over and over, and he will never actually debate on anything.
He’s just a part of the reichwingnut noise machine we have all come to loath.
OT – Tedisco conceeded! Anoter Reichwingnutter defeated!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pmbarfly Says:
So, can Jay give us a past instance when a government report, prepared at taxpayer’s expense, was shelved because the administration thought it’s findings too controversial for public consumption?
Excellent point.
Ooh, let me get that! How about all of the scientific reports involving endagered species, the ones involving greenhouse gases, reports denying a link between Saddam and Al-Qaeda, reports denying that Saddam was pursuing yellowcake, reports regarding “lost” money in Iraq, reports about no-bid contracts… there’s plenty more, but I’m starting to get bored.
Come to think of it, shelving a report because of its findings would be a political act, wouldn’t it? The normal order of business is to release the report; to shut it down would involve somebody going out of their way.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pmjay have you picked up drew3rd lame openmind premise or are you and drew3rd one and the same? How about those lame asses like Archie and RealityCheck?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:16 pmNixon shelved the report that he commissioned because it recommended ending marijuana prohibition, which was the opposite of what big government republicans wanted to hear
April 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pmBrock! Jay’s got a closed mind! Brock!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pmIn other words, barfly: no, jay can’t give us a past instance.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pmBecause of my overwhelming popularity here I will only answer to the most recent reply. It’s not possible for one person to reply to 10 posts at a time.
I also will not respond to stupid, vulgar or ridiculousness posts submitted by ignorant posters forwarding a leftist agenda.
Honest questions only. Dance people or go somewhere else.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pmjay
April 24th, 2009 at 4:18 pmI don’t wish to tell you how to run your sideshow but have you considered the old “no liberal talking points” gambit? It has been an hour or so…
Damn you look like a played out clown…
aww, special jay is complaining that his feet hurt from dancing for us so much
he is the most easily manipulated troll ever!
dance more jay!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm.
Hi Jay,
Hang out here often?
Wanna talk?
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pmSo that’s your rant Tommy. Quote your source.
OBTW Obie could have done the same with this report. He chose not to.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pmjay Says:
April 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pm“i’m a chickenshit who can’t answer a simple question”
jay Says:
To you maybe. Having a closed mind is a difficult handicap for you isn’t it?
This is like your millionth one-line response in a row. Are you trying to shut down TP by clogging up their mysql server?
The phrase “having a closed mind” typically refers to one who ignores substantive and well-argued points and responds only to and with diversionary tactics and name-calling, in order to avoid having to rationally defend their point of view, which might place it at risk.
While you’re researching that, may I also recommend looking up “psychological projection?”
April 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pmDo you have something intelligent to add? Something that hasn’t been beaten to death already.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pmlol, jay just can’t resist when i pull his strings
keep dancing special jay!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:21 pmjay Says:
So that’s your rant Tommy. Quote your source.
I have Googles.
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jay Says:
OBTW Obie could have done the same with this report. He chose not to.
Choosing to intervene with the publication of an ordered report is a political act. Not intervening is not a political act.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:21 pmTo you maybe. Having a closed mind is a difficult handicap for you isn’t it?
If having that stereotype of me gives you comfort when you’re lying in bed alone at night, trying to forget how much your 401k lost since last year, then go right ahead, son.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:22 pmOBTW Obie could have done the same with this report. He chose not to.
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:22 pmWhy and try to actually answer the question this time otherwise I will think you are a big pussy and I usually think out loud…
Jay, your closed minded comments are getting old especially since your mind seems to gloss over the fact that the DHS report indicates that vets are targeted by right wing extremists groups NOT that vets are the target of the report. You have also glossed over many honest questions all the while responding to the stupid, vulgar or ridiculous post along the way.
If you consider yourself an open minded person then you present yourself as quite the opposite.
Have a good Friday Jay.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmBut what’s really funny is when he tells us that we’re the ones dancing, while he’s all out of breath from his extended solo recital.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmRantingTommy Says:
Nixon shelved the report that he commissioned because it recommended ending marijuana prohibition, which was the opposite of what big government republicans wanted to hear
See how easy, Jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmjay Says:
Because of my overwhelming popularity here I will only answer to the most recent reply. It’s not possible for one person to reply to 10 posts at a time.
You might as well say you’ll only respond to posts ending in #69…
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jay Says:
Honest questions only. Dance people or go somewhere else.
Many honest questions have been asked and ignored. And this ain’t your turf.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pm.
Dear Jay,
I was gonna ask you that very same question…
… We must be like minded. Cool.
Say Jay, tell me, what color am I thinking of?
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmeasy to google “nixon marijuana commission”
just a couple:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/news/schafer.htm
http://www.csdp.org/news/news/nixon.htm
see how easy it is to make jay dance?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmBrock! Leftist agenda! Brock!
Jay’s a pretty troll! Brock!
Brock! Give us a kiss! Give us a kiss!
Brock! Close minded! Brock!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmjay, your dance routine is starting to look raggedy. you better pick it up or your idea pimp tub-o-lard rush woun’t teabag you at the next teabagging party
April 24th, 2009 at 4:24 pmHow many times on this one thread has jay asked if someone has “something intelligent to add”?
Has he used that one more than the “Liberal talking points” gambit?
Who’s keeping the stats on this dance marathon?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:24 pmhey jay, give us the “fosse jazz hands”. that’s always a show stopper
April 24th, 2009 at 4:25 pmOh, yeah, I forgot the multiple “closed mind” comments too.
Damn. jay is one very green troll. Never have I seen someone so eager to recycle.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:25 pmspecial jay is our own little kickball
we shouldn’t pick on the mentally challenged, but it’s fun when they are such a$$holes
April 24th, 2009 at 4:26 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Never have I seen someone so eager to recycle.
Damn closeted liberals…
April 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pmMaybe someone just needs to clean Jay’s cage.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:28 pmThanks Bruce, but I never rely on any advice from people who are on the far left. You see Bruce you hang with people like RHF and db and all the other morons here.
I just come here to see how many of you will dance for me and keep me amused while it’s slow at work.
So thanks again but no thanks.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:28 pmhey jay:
April 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmYou can always fall back on the hey aren’t I important because I jerks this around for a few hundred posts comments. I know it won’t matter to you that most of us were just f ucking with you for amusement but still you can try and spin it as being significant in some way. Come on buddy why not give it a try?
And that advice from a guy named Bozo.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:30 pmjay Says:
Thanks Bruce, but I never rely on any advice from people who are on the far left. You see Bruce you hang with people like RHF and db and all the other morons here.
So you give up? You’re crying uncle? That’s pretty much an admission that you are incapable of defending the point of view you’ve presented.
Also from our perspective it’s less of a “dance” and more like a game of hacky-sack.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:30 pmMust be reeeeeeeeally slow today, huh, buddy?
At least you’re getting your exercise. And I must say, you cut a striking figure in those tights.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pmseems if special jay was honest he wouldn’t spend so much time generating revenue for ThinkProgress, a site he professes to hate
of course, special jay isn’t honest
and he isn’t even that good of a dancer, although it’s funny to watch him flail about
dance for me special jay
April 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pmHow do I get a job where I can post online all day? Is the RNC still taking applications jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:31 pmNow that’s a hard question to answer. First you have to be able to think. I’d say it’s “grape”.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:32 pmOh and jay if you don’t answer a simpl question soon I will follow you around and f uck with you each and everytime I see you. You can be assured of this. So I think it might be advisable to cut the shit and start responding to reasonable questions if you want to be viewed as anything other than s freakshow.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:32 pmjust saying…
jay Says:
You see Bruce you hang with people like RHF and db and all the other morons here.
Guess what jay? So do you! Being here is the same as hanging out, so deal with it!
Wait until Jay’s friends and family find out he hangs around with liberals!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pmI just come here to see how many of you will dance for me and keep me amused while it’s slow at work.
And the tutu is just a disguise…
April 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pmDBadass, I love your style.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pmThat’s why I’m here, Tommy.
Check out this example of jay’s dancing.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pmWell you can start your own business, put 20 years into it and then you can do whatever you want.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:33 pmjay says:
“I just come here to see how many of you will dance for me and keep me amused while it’s slow at work.”
jay, is that code for “computer time” at the special needs group home?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pm.
#308 Jay,
SO you admit, you’re a TROLL.
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pmjay
April 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pmwhat do you say we start with 293? Can you handle that one or not. If you don’t the record will show you as a colossal pussy. The question is more than reasonable as it simply follows up you comment? Please don’t make me have to publically declare you pussy for life…
sorry ralph, cant watch youtube on this phone, i’ll chek it out after the gig
April 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pmAnd that advice from a guy named Bozo.
Did “Jay” take you a long time? It’s dazzling in it’s simplicity, yet staggering in it’s audacity.
Kudos.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pm“Well you can start your own business, put 20 years into it and then you can do whatever you want.”
ooohhhhhh lookie here: jay’s another “business owner” like “joe the welfare queen fake plumber”. that’s pretty funnny
April 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pmOBTW who’s company are you sealing from today Levi?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:36 pmSorry Levi, “Stealing from”.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pm319
April 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pmThe trick is to make endless typos. Oh and manners are good too…
cheers
I gots to get to work shortly….
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#315 jay said:
Oh, snap, you’re tough there buddy. But still incorrect, though.
I hope that didn’t hurt your feelings. care to try again?
p.s.
Fruit are not colors.
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:39 pmHey, you can get a job blowing up balloon animals Bozo, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:39 pmWell you can start your own business, put 20 years into it and then you can do whatever you want.
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pmhave you done that jayor is that another question beyond your ability to answer? Is it hawking pirated Backstreet Boys cds and assorted other mail order crap?
Max Anax junius -1 Says:
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Damn Anax, I thought you were thinking “Grape”.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pmI am “sealing” from lots of companies, as I am in independent computer contractor or consultant. What kind of business do you run jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pmjay’s definitely running out of steam.
Maybe we should put on a slow song and give him a chance to rest.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pmjay, the “Bozo”-related remarks are not working for you. Maybe you should go back to the “Liberal talking points” gold mine.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pmI thought so. You are all “independent computer contractors and consultants”, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:42 pmLevi the Dungbeetle @335:
Excellent use of questioning. They hate that. It freaks them out. You are all over this…
So jay will you be answering this one?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmdbadass Says:
Oh and jay if you don’t answer a simpl question soon I will follow you around…
Watch out, jay. This, it is true. dbadass has stalked trolls before. You may need to end up getting an “Internet restraining order” – in fact, I’ll sell ya one for fifty bucks.
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jay Says:
Well you can start your own business, put 20 years into it and then you can do whatever you want.
Even easier, you can make up your own backstory whenever you register for a new website, amirite? ;)
April 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmwell barfly,
April 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pmthe genius was going to spell it phonetically and tried to register the screen name “j” but that was shot down, so he had to dig out his driver’s license
jay, recycling your mom’s beer cans that you find under your trailer does not qualify as a business
but keep dancing
April 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pm.
Dear jay,
Then I guess you don’t “it” all, NO?
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pmJust like you trolls are all small business owners.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pmSo true Bruce.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pmBusiness must really be slow, if he can afford to jerk off for three hours online. For some reason tumbleweeds suddenly come to mind…
April 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pmralph,
April 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pmHave you noticed that jay seems to have learned a valuable lesson and now is using the avoid those who outrank you approach. The social heirarchy is a cruel reality in the animal kingdom…
You thought I was a computer consultant? You must be psychic. Unfortunately, you have not reciprocated by telling me what you do for a living.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:45 pmralph, jay doesn’t seem to realise his bozo comments are lacking both with and originality
April 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pmOh damn, KNOW…KNOW “IT” all.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pmAs a matter of fact it’s doing great.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pmAnd what business would that be jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pmLevi,
I don’t think psychic is he correct word.
Jay thought I was thinking of grape as a color.
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April 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pmLevi the Dungbeetle Says:
“And what business would that be jay?”
internet impresario?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pmElBruce:
April 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pmFisherman never stalk. They just set hooks and reel them in…
he collects used beer cans from under the trailer (that’s where his mom puts them), he thinks it’s a business
April 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pmI guess I am going to have to use my psychic powers to determine what kind of job jay has, where he could post all day.
After a few moments of quiet meditation, I have seen a batteries plus shop….
April 24th, 2009 at 4:50 pmSo you “were” a computer consultant. What are you now? Why would I ever want to reciprocate anything to a dungbeele?
Or to anyone on a hate site who I don’t know for that matter.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:51 pmjay is one of those whose favorite flavor of koolaid is red
April 24th, 2009 at 4:51 pmA guess from a narrow minded Dungbeetle.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pmOr to anyone on a hate site who I don’t know for that matter.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pm–no talking points please
Pussy…
his support for torture has already established that he is a pussy
April 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pmjay, we don’t hate you. see how friendly we’re trying to be with you…taking an interest in what you do for a living….
April 24th, 2009 at 4:53 pmAmazing! jay fails to respond to a direct question and instead makes a lame insult based on the questioner’s screen name! And then expands it to everyone here!
This is so unlike him!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:53 pmjay Says:
So true Bruce.
Is that an admission of guilt, or are you just teasing me?
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RantingTommy Says:
he collects used beer cans from under the trailer (that’s where his mom puts them), he thinks it’s a business
Oh SNAP!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:54 pm“Narrow minded”?
I though we were sticking with “closed minded” today, jay… did the tune change?
April 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pmspecial jay is just so full of hate
April 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pmhe claims that business is great
but throughout the land
it was only his hand
that would agree to go out on a date
I have been a computer consultant since before windows 95. I am still working as a free lance consultant, and I love it. I probably make more money in a day than you make in a month.
As for why you are unwilling to reciprocate by sharing what kind of business you own simply because of my choice of insect, shows you are embarrassed by what you do for a living. Either that or you are just plain old lying.
Either way, I am off to take the dog to the dog park. I will remind you that you still haven’t told me what you do for a living jay, and remind you, and remind you.
Have a nice day!
April 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pmralph,
April 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pmone would assume since my paly=pal jay just ooozes o’lielly talking point and you know is a faithful viewer based on his choice of words “hate site” “narrow minded” he would “get” the allusion of the bug names. alas, jay’s a third tier troll thus, not too bright.
i dunno about that, his mom drinks a lot of beer and therefore has a lot of used cans
April 24th, 2009 at 4:58 pmjay Says:
Or to anyone on a hate site who I don’t know for that matter.
I find it interesting how wingnuts minimize the meaning of actual hate groups, hate speech, etc. by calling anyone who disagrees with them a “hate site” or whatnot. There are real neo-Nazis out there. There are people who want to throw entire segments of the population into ovens. To water down the phrase so casually like that almost seems to be part of an intentional ploy to normalize extremist racism and violence.
It’s slightly more interesting that he would choose this particular thread, which is about a DHS report on just such groups, to do that.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:00 pmAs a matter of fact it’s doing great.
Seem to remember a few Fortune 500 CEO’s making that claim, just before THEIR company tanked. Carly Fiorina comes to mind.
Since I have no money invested, I’ll be magnanamous, and take your word for it.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pmHi jay:
April 24th, 2009 at 5:05 pmIhave bigger fish to fillet so I got to cut you loose. I’ll be back around midnight though and if that doesn’t work for you I will just keep my eyes open. Like I said, I will f uck with you each and everytime I see you until you earn my respect by simply engaging in intelligent dialogue…
Let’s all take a moment and reflect on what I said waaaay back in #113 (my first comment in this thread)
jay actually took umbrage to that statement. He was insulted – insulted I say! – that I would insinuate that he in any way bore any responsibility for the derailment of threads he happened to wander into…
What are we, coming up towards 400 now?
April 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pmTo water down the phrase so casually like that almost seems to be part of an intentional ploy to normalize extremist racism and violence.
Perhaps Jay has a t-shirt deal with the teabaggers, and it’s his way of drumming up business.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:09 pmElbruce,
jay’s still trying to figure how grape is not a color, but an orange is…
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April 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pmjay’s sitting this one out.
His feets is tired.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pm… arguing with Jay right now is akin to punching a weeble-wobble doll. It gets you nowhere, and after a few minutes of doing it, it looks ridiculous.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:23 pmYou make a good point, jay, but, really, none of us is “arguing” with jay.
We’re just pulling his strings and making him dance. All in good fun, you see.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pmSorry… I meant “you make a good point Luis“.
My bad.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pmThanks for the amusement db.
You danced as expected. See ya next time.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:35 pmIt looks like you wanted to join the dance party Luis.
Keep dancing to the music. It’s what you all do for me here and it’s enjoyable to see you comply to my whims.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:37 pmint he precious? The way he pretends that he’s the one calling the tunes is just adorable.
Someone play Freebird!
Hehehehe… this ought to be good.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:41 pmAmerican Patsy Says:
Bottom line, fired.
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Bottom line. YOU are a moron
April 24th, 2009 at 5:43 pmIt is so difficult for you dweebs to figure out the fact that if you ask a stupid question you get a stupid answer.
You people are really lacking in intelligence aren’t you?
It’s not rocket science. Oh I seem to remember that one of you here is a “real Scientist” but alas he’s not here today to help you figure things out.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:44 pmjay Says:
It must be dark inside a closed mind.
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If anyone would know it would be you.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:45 pmThe intelligent one speaks. What a joke.
Dance pal, dance.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:46 pmjay Says:
This is called being fired in the political world. “YUP”
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Nope. I ANY world FIRED means you no longer have a job.
I did Ralph. All day you dweebs came here to post to me, or should I say post at me. It happens every time I come here and it amuses me to see how many of you line up to show your bigotry and narrow mindedness.
I call the shots and like the puppets that infest this site, you all dance.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:49 pmEugene, don’t be too hard on jay today. He’s been dancing on pointe for three hours, and his energy level wasn’t that high to begin with today. He’s tired.
Not too tired to throw out a blanket “You people are really lacking in intelligence aren’t you?” of course, but, really… how much energy does that take?
April 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pmYou mean fired.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pmUm… jay…?
Hate to break it you, dude, but… people post here whether you show up or not.
You don’t really attract anyone to post here. The only reason you drive up comment counts (and TP thanks you for that, BTW) is because your own brand of cognitive dissonance, flavored with a weird meglomania and topped with a healthy dollop of obliviousness is a festival of trolling that confirms so many beliefs about the right wing.
I hope you don’t think anyone here takes you seriously, do you?
Did you think that, jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pmjay Says:
The intelligent one speaks. What a joke.
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Another moron speaks. YOU are a joke but the sick kind not the funny kind.
Dance pal, dance.
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I dont do requests. I do love laughing at people as stupid as you though. Thanks as always for the free clown show
April 24th, 2009 at 5:56 pmjay Says:
I call the shots and like the puppets that infest this site, you all dance.
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Once again Jay shows he has delusions of adequacy. We enjoy slapping you around and amuse ourselves laughing at you. That is dancing to YOUR tune? HA what a delusional moron you are. It is like the fly telling the spider how he is manipulating him by getting caught in the spiders web. You are a neverending source of amusement. Keep the laughs coming
April 24th, 2009 at 5:59 pmEugene, jay is like the guy who teases the big kid and then when he gets beat up claims that he wanted to get beat up.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:01 pmjay Says:
Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says:
jay Says:
This is called being fired in the political world. “YUP”
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Nope. I ANY world FIRED means you no longer have a job.
You mean fired.
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Which is what I wrote. Adult education look into it.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:01 pmI know that you all like to line up and take a shot at me. That amuses me especially the way you go about it. It’s typical of the mindset here. I know people “Dance to The Puppeteers” here all day. Amanda and the likes.
Why would anyone take me seriously, I don’t. I do know that people like RHF has a need to stalk me when I come here. It’s a character flaw of a bitter woman and a bigot.
No Ralph, it’s all for the amusement factor. You people have to be good for something, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
True enough. That is pretty much what IS happening here though jay may be to clueless to notice it
April 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pmEugene, you are the one without a clue. You’re all so full of yourselves here and are amusing little playthings. You never fail to perform for me. The day has just shot by and so you all served your purpose.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pmYou people are so full of yourselves you never catch on.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pmjay Says:
You are stupid jay. I dont know about everyone else but I LOVE to laugh at people as stupid as you. You are not calling any shots. You are being stupid and we are calling you on it. The speeder isnt calling the shots when he gets a ticket from the cop. The moron poster isnt calling any shots when other posters call YOU on being a moron. It really is that simple though I forgive you for being too stupid to understand the dynamic
April 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pmOkay, so if you say you’re here for “amusement” and it’s clear that we’re only playing with for our own amusement, what’s with your bizarre need to pretend that you call the shots?
You know how you come off, jay? Something like this.
(By the way, it says something about your psychological make-up that you find it amusing to come to a place where no one respects you, and then reinforce their opinions.)
April 24th, 2009 at 6:11 pmjay Says:
Eugene, you are the one without a clue. You’re all so full of yourselves here and are amusing little playthings. You never fail to perform for me. The day has just shot by and so you all served your purpose.
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Keep telling yourself whatever it takes to get you through the day. You are stupid. I amuse myself by doing the message board equivalent of laughing at you and pointing. Keep telling yourself that your free clown show is at OUR expense. It is that kind of extra level of cluelessness that makes it extraordinarily sweet
April 24th, 2009 at 6:11 pmjay Says:
You people are so full of yourselves you never catch on.
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YOU are so stupid you dont have the CAPACITY to catch anything. You couldnt catch a cold
April 24th, 2009 at 6:12 pmAnd in related news:
SAN DIEGO — Local law enforcement officials said more neo-Nazi groups are about to choose the San Diego area as their home.
In an e-mail sent to 10News, authorities said San Diego and the surrounding area has become a big draw for hate groups.
According to local authorities, the California National Socialist Movement — one of the largest neo-Nazi groups — is setting up shop somewhere in San Diego County.
Deputy District Attorney Oscar Garcia specializes in hate crimes and said, “Unfortunately, Southern California is the hotbed of the neo-Nazi movement.”
Experts said fueled by anti-Latino fervor, hate groups are moving to border areas and are ready to commit violence.
For white supremacist groups, gone are the days of posting flyers. Now groups are going online to recruit.
Experts said the online recruiting effort is working.
Since 2000, the number of hate groups in the U.S. has increased by more than 50 percent to more than 920.
Just last year, local authorities said one group set up three different branches in the county.
One member of that group was convicted for hurling racial slurs and beating up Eduardo Callete in a Lakeside park.
“I couldn’t breathe because they were choking me from behind,” said Callete.
Could similar incidents be headed San Diego’s way? The Anti-Defamation League of San Diego said yes.
“When you have an increase in these groups, the concern is obviously an increase in some type of violent crime,” said Tina Malka, associate director of the Anti-Defamation League of San Diego.
According to recent crime numbers in the San Diego area, a hate crime is reported every three days.
Authorities said a half-dozen hate groups are believed to be in the area, but it is not known how many members are in the groups.
Is it merely coincidence that there is a large military presence in San Diego, ripe for recruitment?
April 24th, 2009 at 6:13 pmthe California National Socialist Movement
Might have to change their name to attract teabaggers.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pmSee what I mean. Amusing people full of themselves. There is a slang word for it, it’s “Pissant”.
You are a great source of daily chuckles. Correction, some time chuckles because I don’t live on this site as you people do. I only come here to make you dance like the good little puppets that you are and you haven’t failed me yet.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:17 pmWe know you did, jay. We know you did.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pmEvery time I come here as you know Ralph.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pmI would posit that yes, there are a lot of racists in San Diego, and I see them on a near-daily basis, here in East County.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:23 pmWell jay, I am back, and I see you still haven’t answered my question of what you do for a living. I also see you are still parroting your peculiar brand of ignorance.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:37 pmAnd you won’t get an answer either Levi. As I told you before I don’t give personal information to Idiots, Morons and anyone on a Leftist web site.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:41 pmBrock! Morons and idiots! Brock
Jay wants a leftist! Brock
Give us a kiss! Give us a kiss!
Brock! close minded! Brock!
April 24th, 2009 at 6:43 pmDearest Ralph and Levi,
April 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pmThis person is not worth your time. I have appreciated and been enlightened by both of your opinions since logging on here two months ago. Only a few days ago ralph posted such a cogent opinion of what a liberal believes that I was proud to have the word locust in my name. Please don’t bother with this troll, save your remarks for someone with the intellectual honesty to give you a decent argument.
jay Says:
It looks like you wanted to join the dance party Luis.
Keep dancing to the music. It’s what you all do for me here and it’s enjoyable to see you comply to my whims.
In the beach, during the summer days of warm winds and not-quite-cold waters, runs a little kid. His parents are nowhere to be seen, and the rest of the kids in the beach won’t play with him because he’s a bully who likes to tease other children, but who cries at the slightest discomfort he receives.
He stares at the waves, crashing against the shore.
“Look at that!”, he cries to no one in particular. “These waves keep on coming every time I come to the beach. I must be very important, for them to try to reach me in the shore”.
He stands, defiant, with his feet right at the edge of the sea.
“Come for me, you pathetic waves! You can’t reach me!”. He starts to run up and down the beach, mocking the waves. “Dance for me, stupid waves, dance for me!”.
The waves carry on, indifferent to the little kid. Tomorrow it will be a new day, and tomorrow the waves will still carry on.
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You go and keep thinking we’re here for you, Jay, if it makes you happy.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:55 pmjay Says:
You are a brainwashed fool. Just because that is the tactic Rush uses when HE is called on being a fool. YOU are stupid enough to think it makes sense. This is simple. YOU are stupid. We call you on being stupid. If we say the sky is blue that isnt the sky pulling our strings. It doesnt work for Rush yet you are so stupid you think it will work for you anyway. Do you have any idea how pathetic you are?
April 24th, 2009 at 6:56 pmSo you are the adviser. They’re grownups at least I think they are grownups.
We have talked in the past and will most likely talk again in the future. They aren’t looking for a decent argument. They could of had one with me all day but chose to try and demean me, libel me and gang up on me. The gang up part is what they do the best. No discussions here just BS and hate.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:57 pmTypical leftist post Eugene. Intelligent conversation piece also.
Pathetic.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:59 pmLuis, if you post to me, post about me or pretend to not post to me when you are actually posting to me, then you are here because of me.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:03 pmBrock! Typical Leftist! Brock!
Jay wants a cracker! Brock!
Close minded, Close minded, Brock!
April 24th, 2009 at 7:06 pmjay Says:
Typical leftist post Eugene. Intelligent conversation piece also.
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Please tell me you arent so stupid that you thought your ignorant tripe and sniping deserved an intelligent reply. Just like a brainwashed moron you snipe at us then snivel like the punk you are that we dont treat it like reasoned discourse. Bring something worth talking about to the table and THAT will get an intelligent discussion. Snipe like the punkass troll you are and you get what you deserve. How is it you are both claiming that you are calling the shots and that you DIDNT get the intelligent discussion that you were looking for? Because you are too stupid to DESERVE being taken seriously and responding to WITH intelligent, reasoned discussion. Again. I forgive you for being just flat too stupid to understand this simple dynamic.
Pathetic.
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Isnt that on your family crest?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:07 pmjay Says:
Luis, if you post to me, post about me or pretend to not post to me when you are actually posting to me, then you are here because of me.
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This is not only meglomania of a disturbing degree it is also stupid beyond all comprehension. No I am here because I like the site. Believe it or not this site doesnt cease to exist when you are not here. Slapping a moronic fool like YOU around is just icing on the cake. Leave now, I will still be here, you do know you are astonishingly stupid dont you?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:11 pmC’mon Eugene, you can do better than that. I don’t expect an intelligent discussion from anyone here. It has only happened twice in all my visits. It happened after all the spammers left and I was one on one with a certain person.
You cannot have a discussion with ten spammers calling you names and asking stupid question. “What color am I thinking of?” is one that comes to mind.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:11 pmjay Says:
They aren’t looking for a decent argument. They could of had one with me all day but chose to try and demean me, libel me and gang up on me.
Considering this was your opening shot in this forum:
jay Says:
Of course you look to TP for truth in reporting.
The greatest source for real reporting and facts.
It must be dark inside a closed mind.
I think that what you were after was arguments, not debate.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:11 pmTypical Eugene, right on topic also. What was the topic here today?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:13 pmjay Says:
Luis, if you post to me, post about me or pretend to not post to me when you are actually posting to me, then you are here because of me.
I’m here with you, regardless of you, in spite of you, thanks to you, no thanks to you, and having fun due to you. In no particular order.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:16 pmHere is the context of my post. The part you left out is included. So you use half truths to make your point. Typical.
An observation about a person who seems to think that TP isn’t a bias site.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:18 pmjay Says:
C’mon Eugene, you can do better than that. I don’t expect an intelligent discussion from anyone here. It has only happened twice in all my visits. It happened after all the spammers left and I was one on one with a certain person.
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Really? Then what did THIS mean
They could of had one with me all day but chose to try and demean me,
So you didnt expect one but you are saying they could have HAD one. Yet you say you call the shots so if YOU wanted one then obviously you could have HAD one but chose not to. You dont think you are making sense do you? You are a punk. Consistantly. YOU want to be rude and condescending and attack us then snivel like the punk you are that YOU are treated the way you treat us. You really are pathetic. I mean world class pathetic.
You cannot have a discussion with ten spammers calling you names and asking stupid question. “What color am I thinking of?” is one that comes to mind.
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If you didnt make the kind of baseless assertions that could ONLY be taken seriously IF you could read minds you wouldnt see that kind of question but then you really dont get much of anything do you? It gets a bit old taking you by the hand and trying to walk you slowly through the logical point that any reasonably bright ten year old would get easily.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:18 pmjay, where did keith say TP was not a bias site? Please quote him.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:19 pmjay Says:
Typical Eugene, right on topic also. What was the topic here today?
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You really are a sad and stupid joke. Have YOU been on topic even ONCE in this thread? Try to keep up. I am amusing myself by slapping you around for your stupidity and trolling.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:21 pmAnd yet you see fit to post to me. It doesn’t contain anything about the “topic at hand” or comment on “the topic at hand”.
So you are here posting to me about nothing in particular and off topic to boot. OK if that floats your boat. Now you are on the hook.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:22 pmIs it Happy Hour yet?
I could sure use it, after this torturous week’s revelations.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pmThe reichwingnuts seem to enjoy posting what other people believe, or think. They just make something up and state what someone else is thinking, as though they were mind readers. Of course, all they do is try to demean everyone that does not agree with their reichwingnuttery, but that does not matter to an immoral reichwingnut.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pmNow that the spammers are gone Luis, do you want to discuss the topic? We just might get a chance to do that before they return.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:24 pmjay Says:
A lot of Limbot/hannity inspired garbage.
I wouldn’t say he’s stupid…but he is a chicken! (see 161) But then again…chickens are kinda stupid. The real ones do know when to come in from the rain however. Jay could learn from them.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:25 pmlol, i see special jay is still dancing for us, pretending to conduct the band while everyone points and laughs at him
just pull his string and off he goes
April 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmTypical Left wing name calling. You do it so well. Doy you practice it in front of the mirror or does it just come to you in a flash?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmIf you don’t want to be called names, then don’t frequent this blog. Duh.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pmAnd you continue to return to amuse me Tommy. I see you haven’t caught on yet. It’s not surprising.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:27 pmHere is the context of my post. The part you left out is included. So you use half truths to make your point. Typical.
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He was right. Context does you no favors
DHS Tells ThinkProgress: Fox is Wrong
It’s now official, and way overdue.
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Fox WAS wrong. The guy WASNT fired. Its that simple. I am sorry you are allergic to facts. Your tough luck.
Of course you look to TP for truth in reporting.
The greatest source for real reporting and facts.
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A petty insult in your first post not to mention top shelf projection on your part.
An observation about a person who seems to think that TP isn’t a bias site.
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Another strawman argument. Did anyone here claim there was no bias on this site? It is a liberal site. Do you go vex FreeRepublicanSewer for having a bias? You really arent very good at this.
You didnt MAKE a point. You flailed around with logical fallacies and an insult no point in sight. Are you plumbing the depths of your stupid today? Is it all an excersize to see if you can surpass Hannity as the stupidest organic being known to man?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:28 pmyou have to admire special jay’s love for ThinkProgress and the ideals it holds
why else would he work so hard to drive up the hit count and do his part to help the liberal blogosphere?
the only other explanation is that he has a very low IQ and large insecurites and just comes here for attention in his clown suit
April 24th, 2009 at 7:29 pmjay Says:
Here is the context of my post. The part you left out is included. So you use half truths to make your point. Typical.
An observation about a person who seems to think that TP isn’t a bias site.
An but this note wasn’t about Keith H. (Sorry Keith!). This note was about the DHS saying that Fox News was wrong. So instead of having an argument about Fox News being right or wrong, you make an “observation” about what Keith seems to think about TP.
I’m sorry I didn’t put the rest of the post you were replying to. I didn’t think it was necessary, considering I wasn’t replying to what Keith wrote but to what you wrote.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:29 pmbarfly Says:
And in related news:
SAN DIEGO — Local law enforcement officials said more neo-Nazi groups are about to choose the San Diego area as their home.
I’ve noticed they have this weird tendency to “flock” to certain areas of the country from year to year.
By the way, thanks for the topic-relevant post. They’re getting hard to find in here.
jay, I hope you’re getting it out of your system; we’re probably going to have to start getting flaghappy if you try to clog up any more threads like this. Probably only about 15% of the posts in here are in any way informative on any opinion regarding any topic relevant to the top of the page. The rest is just crap you’ve been generating and provoking. It makes it impossible to for anyone to read down and get any perspective on the topic at hand. So congrats, I guess.
Everybody else, you’re being total trollbait. Sure, it can be fun for a while, but the aggegrate effect is sharply bringing down the quality of the posted discussion. There are plenty of interesting topics here today, and a good sampling of much more interesting trolls to debate them with.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:30 pmI mean, if jay really hated liberals, he wouldn’t try to help spread our message so much, would he?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:30 pmAnd I’m tired of playing rockem-sockem with wingnuts whose understanding of issues is thimble deep. On the posive front, Scripps Institute scientists have successfully changed adult stem-cells into embryonic stem cells, opening up a huge new medical field, and removing the major problem of using stem cells derived from embryos.
A toast, to the Scripps Research Institute!
April 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pmLuis, that was a beautifully rendered story, and it captures perfectly the essence of our friend jay.
Nicely done, my friend.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pmWell, the topic was Fox News being publicly busted lying about a DHS Employee being fired. DHS confirmed Fox got caught lying.
Usually when Fox gets caught lying this bad they send in a battlebot troll to bury the thread in inane nonsense.
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April 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pmjay Says:
Typical Left wing name calling.
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Says the hypocritical punk who opened up the day telling us about our closed minds. Another rightwing dittobot who thinks because the screechmonkey who does his thinking for him gets away with simultaneously insulting and snivelling about insults he should get away with it too. What a punk.
You do it so well.
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Perhaps it is just that you suck at it as badly as you do trying logic
April 24th, 2009 at 7:32 pmneil cavuto lied about Fox covering the Million Man March too
April 24th, 2009 at 7:32 pmif jay really hated liberals, he would boycott this site
April 24th, 2009 at 7:33 pmIt’s too bad that you people can’t stay on topic. You people keep changing the topic, not me.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:33 pmjay doesn’t have the balls to boycott this site
April 24th, 2009 at 7:34 pmjay is too much of a wimp to boycott this site
April 24th, 2009 at 7:35 pmi dare jay to boycott this site
April 24th, 2009 at 7:36 pmBy “you people” I assume you mean people other than trolls?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:36 pmNice try Tommy boy. Why don’t you just boycott me it would be easier do do.
Then we can get back to the topic at hand. The guy got fired and you people here can’t seem to admit that. You dance like little puppets at the whim of Amanda, “The Puppet Master”.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:37 pmi told ya that jay was too much of a pussy to boycott this site
April 24th, 2009 at 7:38 pmjay Says:
It’s too bad that you people can’t stay on topic. You people keep changing the topic, not me.
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You are a LIAR troll. Your very first post had NOTHING to do with the topic it was an attack on ThinkProgress and the posters here. Why do you lie so transparently? We arent as stupid as you. We arent fooled.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:38 pmjay Says: 456
My GOD you are stupid. The guy used to work for the Government the guy STILL works for the government. How STUPID and how BRAINWASHED do you have to be to keep claiming that means he was fired?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:39 pmBy “You people” I mean the ones that keep the topic from being discussed with your spamming.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:39 pmjay wouldnt have anywhere to whine if he boycotted this site
and, obviously, he whines a LOT
April 24th, 2009 at 7:40 pmNot fooled hey. It was totally on topic if you consider who I was posting it to. Closer to being on topic that your latest post to me.
Dance pal dance.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:41 pmIt is HILARIOUS. Jay is still trying to claim that us amusing ourselves by slapping the stupid out of him means HE is manipulating US? WOW. The cluelessness is delicious. Really MORONJAY. Just because RUSH tries it doesnt mean it makes the least bit of sense. Remember he is only fooling the bottom of the barrel morons like YOU. Here you have people with functional cerebral cortexes. Recycling his excuses only makes you look like the fool you are. We arent ignorant dittobots. The jedi mind trick only works on morons like YOU
April 24th, 2009 at 7:42 pmAnd a toast to all the indefatigable TP posters (even Jay, sort of).
If anyone is in San Diego, I’ll be at tomorrow’s Adams Ave. Folk-Music Festival, to see Chris Hillman perform (among many talented others); I’ll be in green shorts and straw hat, and if anyone comes up to me and asks, “Are you barfly?” they will win $20. So the day might be fun, AND profitable for some local TP’er.
Good weekend, all.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:42 pmI see more whining coming from you Tommy boy. Want some cheese with your whine.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:43 pmwell, jay’s dance moves are getting old, especially this latest one which is mostly air guitar
too funny that jay dances everytime we pull his string, helping keep his favorite site, ThinkProgress, going strong!
April 24th, 2009 at 7:44 pmWell then you’d better take a break punchy, because that was my first and only comment on the thread.
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April 24th, 2009 at 7:45 pmAnother typical post from you Eugene. How do you come up with them all? OBTW you’re on the hook and still dancing.
One thing though, come up with some new material.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:45 pmjay Says:
Not fooled hey. It was totally on topic if you consider who I was posting it to. Closer to being on topic that your latest post to me.
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No it wasnt moron. The topic was NOT ThinkProgress nor the posters here and THAT was what you were addressing. I mean I know you are stupid but this is so simple even a subhuman moron like YOU ought to get it.
Dance pal dance.
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I dont do requests. I will continue slapping you around for being a moron, Reel punk, reel
April 24th, 2009 at 7:45 pmGreat. Next time be on topic. Don’t be a spammer like the others here.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:46 pm“You people” = Limbot giveaway
(Jay, you’re losing badly dude. You’ve been here all day. Go in from the rain.)
April 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pmjay Says:
I see more whining coming from you Tommy boy. Want some cheese with your whine.
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I know you are but what am I??? Really? That is your argument? REALLY? The second grade called. It wants its insult back.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pmjay goes into a store and orders a moon pie and a glass of milk
the clerk says “you must be a republican”
jay, easily offended as he is, says “wait a minute, if I had ordered a latte would you have thought i was a liberal?”
the clerk replied “no”
jay, still offended and confused, says “if I had ordered a vodka on the rocks would you have thought i was a communist?”
the clerk replied “no”
“then how’d you know i was a republican?”, whined jay
“because this is a hardware store”, replied the clerk
April 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pmThis troll’s about done.
Notice he’s not actually “saying” anything.
:|
Just finding new ways to say “nuh uh”.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:48 pmFace to face you couldn’t touch me or even get close enough to touch me.
It’s easy to be a big man with a key board in front of you.
Little man.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pmTime to find out what jay thinks about the topic. jay, assuming Fox news broadcast something that was incorrect, should they offer a retraction?
Jay, just to make sure you understand how this works, this is a yes or no question. Any other type of answer has to be considered evasive.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pmjay Says:
Another typical post from you Eugene. How do you come up with them all? OBTW you’re on the hook and still dancing.
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I will make you a deal. YOU keep deluding yourself and I will keep slapping the stupid out of you. I just LOVE to laugh at people as stupid as you.
One thing though, come up with some new material.
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You dont DESERVE new material. You are so repetitive I had two cups of coffee just to keep my braincells from slipping into the coma they are begging for. Dancing yada yada, strings yada yada. See I have to be repetitive. I am talking to a moron dittobot. I have to communicate to a substandard brain in its own langauge.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pmjay does irony.
But he does not appear to be aware of it.
Pretty funny..
April 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pmYou haven’t said anything for hours either. Just garbage and insults. That’s what you do here right?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pmjay Says:
Great. Next time be on topic. Don’t be a spammer like the others here.
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Says the hypocritical punk who was off topic with his very first post.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:52 pm“because this is a hardware store!!!”
tap tap – is this thing on? tough room
lol
maybe i shouldnt have had that last drink…
April 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmjay Says:
To you maybe. Having a closed mind is a difficult handicap for you isn’t it?
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Gotta be less of a handicap than having no mind at all is for you
April 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmRalph, using fake quotes is a leftist trick. I see you keep up with the manual.
It’s an idiots tool.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pmSee?
Just mindless juvenile taunts.
This troll is just here pushing buttons to bury the thread because that’s what Neil Cavuto’s administrative assistant’s 3rd cousin’s neighbor told him to.
:|
Great work if you can get it.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pma sad troll who dances all day
April 24th, 2009 at 7:55 pmwe all know him as special jay
but his act has grown thin
he should wipe off his chin
and accept that he was just born that way
“fake quotes”?
Heheheheheee…
yeah, right, jay…
“fake quotes” he says…
This one is priceless.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:56 pmIs that true Ralph?
April 24th, 2009 at 7:57 pmjay Says:
Face to face you couldn’t touch me or even get close enough to touch me.
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Nor would I want to just in case the STUPID was contagious
It’s easy to be a big man with a key board in front of you.
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See that is my fault. I forgot how stupid you are. Look up metaphor in the dictionary and get a six year old to explain the big words to you.
Little man.
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Stupid punkass troll
April 24th, 2009 at 7:57 pmMcCain ran for president on a national security agenda, and here he responds to a DHS report as if he has no idea how any government agency works. What a sorry, lying sack of sh*t this man is.
BTW, Napolitano is the new Janet Reno. Nothing but reruns from the party of NO.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:57 pmI recommend at this point that everyone flag every post jay makes. If he ever offered anything of substance at all, I would love to allow him to stay, but he’s just a lemming.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:57 pmTommy boy, keep dancing. You’re on the hook and you amuse me.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:58 pmTommy, jay started out doing the “Charleston” so it’s not like his dance moves were ever cutting edge. I think the eighties is about as fresh as he gets.
‘Course, now, he’s mostly just shifting his weight from one foot to the other and pretending he’s not wasted.
April 24th, 2009 at 7:58 pmjay Says:
You haven’t said anything for hours either. Just garbage and insults. That’s what you do here right?
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You are still too stupid to get the point I see. That is all you DESERVE here. You have no game
April 24th, 2009 at 7:58 pmhow’s that moon pie, special jay?
April 24th, 2009 at 8:00 pmYeah, Levi, it doesn’t look like jay wants to answer your on-topic question.
I figured it was a non-starter but it was worth a try.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:00 pmI recommend that you flag all the nonsense that you posted also.
I’m just answering to the attacks from you leftists. You for one haven’t posted anything of substance for the past hour either. Neither has any of the others who try to taunt me.
Too bad. It doesn’t work. You dance to my pleasure. Now you want to flag me. The enlightened one speaks.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:01 pmdancing for liberals all day
April 24th, 2009 at 8:02 pmearning his name: special jay
crying and whining
lying and pining
for a chance to be a grownup someday
And what question was that. I have been spammed all day here. I will only answer to the last post.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:03 pmIf it is a question that is on topic I will give him an answer.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pmjay Says: 496
YOU are a liar. Your very first post here was an insult aimed at us. I know you punkass trolls think you have the exclusive franchise on personal attacks but that is just because you are very STUPID. You are just getting slapped around so bad you are dizzy that and you are too stupid to know who is doing the dancing. My GOD you are ignorant
April 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pmIsn’t it funny how jay decries all the “leftists” here, yet he is contributing mightily to building up TP’s page hit count, which makes the site more attractive to advertisers?
He is unwittingly helping out the very people he scorns.
Now THAT is comedy.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pmdancing queen, dance for me, jay you dancing queeeeeen
you can troll
you can prance
get your hand out of your pants
see that troll
April 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pmwatch him preen
he’s still the dancing queen
April 24th, 2009 at 8:05 pmFLAGGED
FLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 8:05 pmPoor punkass moron jay. HIS insults are no topic and ours are spamming. What a worthless and ignorant punk he is
April 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pmLevi the Dungbeetle Says:
I recommend at this point that everyone flag every post jay makes.
On it… well, I left about 5% alone, since they were on-topic. Prepare for massive thread implosion.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pmo look, jay is a flaggot now
how cute
April 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pmFLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 8:06 pmLet me translate jays last two posts after a day of insulting us it goes WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
April 24th, 2009 at 8:07 pmFLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 8:07 pmGood luck with that, buddy.
(Ain’t he precious?)
April 24th, 2009 at 8:07 pmFLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 8:08 pmWell jay, its really easy for you to continue to participate on TP. You have to answer at least one question. It’s an on topic question and I posted it earlier. It’s a simple yes or no question. Any other answer is evasive. If you answer the question, you will not be banned.
Jay, if Fox News broadcast something that was inaccurate, should they also broadcast a retraction?
Oh, and I am still waiting for you to tell me what you do for a living. I am quite patient, although I don’t expect you to admit your employment, shame is a powerful motivation.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:08 pmHey Ralph, it wasn’t my suggestion to do that. It came from your silly friend.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:09 pmI find it so cute when trolls throw flagging tantrums.
Their faces get all red and puffy and if they’re really upset, they get a snot bubble in their nose. Awesome.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:10 pmLevi the Dungbeetle Says:
He cleans his mommys house for the change he finds under the cushions of the couch
April 24th, 2009 at 8:10 pmFirst of all you think you can scare me with threatening to ban me? You can’t.
The answer is yes to your question. Right after CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and Public TV decide to do it.
And what I do for a living is not on topic.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:13 pmAnd again jay says WWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:13 pmFLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 8:13 pmReally on topic. Running out of things to post I see. You’re done.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:15 pmJay claims he owns his own business, but posts online all day long. He claims he is a vetran, but he was exposed as a liar. He makes a lot of interesting claims, but never goes into any details. Jay has zero credibility, just like Fox news. (How’s that for getting back on topic?)
April 24th, 2009 at 8:15 pmjay Says:
And what I do for a living is not on topic.
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Neither is whether ThinkProgress has bias or whether we have closed minds PUNK.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:15 pmjay Says:
Really on topic. Running out of things to post I see. You’re done.
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jay you are so stupid and your stupidity is so amusing you are an endless font of material. You’re an ignorant punkass troll
April 24th, 2009 at 8:17 pmCan anyone explain why jay feels that CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS and Public TV should be held to account for something inaccurate that was broadcast on Faux News?
Is jay calling for all broadcast and cable outlets to issue corrections to Faux mistakes?
I could live with that.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:18 pmI’ll be back if I have time. I have a life beyond TP. You people continue with the stupidity and the insults. It’s what you do, right?
You moral, superior, all loving, kind, thoughtful, save the world with your wisdom, bigotry.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:19 pmAnd your just that stupid to believe what you just posted.
See Ya.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:20 pmAt least I’m not stupid enough to believe that the contraction of “you are” is “your”.
jay, you just can’t help kneecapping yourself, can ya, jay?
Hehehehehe.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:21 pmOMG, Jay answered a question. The question was, “If Fox News broadcast something that was inaccurate, should they broadcast a retraction” and Jay’s answer was YES. Of course jay spewed some of his reichwingnuttery but he did give the correct answer. This of course leads to yet another question.
Jay, this is another yes or no question. Any other answer will be viewed as evading the question.
Jay, Was Fox News wrong when they broadcast that the author of the right wing extremism report was fired?
April 24th, 2009 at 8:22 pmTotally expected from a moron such as yourself.
See Ya.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:22 pmjay Says:
I’ll be back if I have time. I have a life beyond TP.
Boy, seven hours of non-stop “look at me!” posts. That sure shouts “a life” to me.
He did get exactly what he wanted here, though.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:27 pmjay Says:
jay you are a punk. Let me tell you a story. A wiseman lived on a hill between two cities. A travelling salesman stopped while travelling from one of those cities to the other and asked the wiseman how the people were in that city. The wiseman said how did you find them in the city you came from. The salesman said they were mean and stingy. That the people of the city were of low character and dishonest and the wiseman told him ” I think you will find them to be the same in the next city”. An hour later another salesman came from the SAME city as the first had come from travelling to the same city the other man was going to and asked the wiseman what kind of people will I find in the next city. The wiseman also asked him how he found the people in the city he had just come from. The second salesman said they were princely people. Kind and just, generous of heart and the wiseman told him that he would find the next people to be the same
See MORON what you get from people is usually a function of who YOU are and less often of who THEY are. YOU are a punk who wants to come in here and insult us, toss personal attacks at us and then expect us to treat YOU with respect. I notice that I got treated pretty well when I got here. In fact I get treated fairly well in most of the sites I go to and they are not all political sites. HMMMM. Perhaps the fault is in YOURSELF and not in us. I would tell you to think about it but we both know that thinking really is never going to be in your future.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:27 pmWasn’t jay complaining about being “taunted” a little while ago?
Sure. I thought so:
Interesting.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:28 pmOh please jay you DEFINE moron. You are the mold from which other morons are made. You have reached the epitome of moronhood. Your projection is priceless.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:30 pmJay’s therapy is going well.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pmI think it is quite likely that jay is just a paid shill for Fox news. It sickens me that anyone would spend an entire day trying to cover up for Fox news and bash progressives at the same time. This is why we have removed Republicans from power, and this is why we must never let them regain power again.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pmI tried to converse with jay earlier but I guess I distracted him from ignoring posts he deemed vulger et al.
His shift at the security desk must be over. He started by calling one of us closed minded at 1:29, and 7 hours latter ’see ya’.
Good bye.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:33 pmcongrats tp crew on yet another total a$$kicking handed to special jay
it couldn’t happen to a more deserving troll
April 24th, 2009 at 8:35 pmI suspect jay lives on the west coast and worked an 8 hour day, with a half hour lunch. Just a hunch. Don’t be shy to flag jay as a troll. He contributes nothing and will insult anyone that tries to engage him.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:36 pmthe change left by his various “uncles”, curiously all named “john”
April 24th, 2009 at 8:37 pmWhat is there really to say about the topic. Good job TP for catching an outright lie by Killmeade. Fox lied AGAIN. That is certainly predictable. This is something they really are trying to make hay out of. Notice the leftwing extremist report came and went and no one cared on the left. ANY criticism of the right and the screechmonkeys are coming after you . They never stop they never sleep and they never concede ANYTHING.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:40 pmI saw the number of comments and knew that Jay had trashed the thread. Seriously, the only way to get rid of him is to ignore and flag.
“Don’t be shy to flag jay as a troll. He contributes nothing and will insult anyone that tries to engage him.”
Exactly right, Levi.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:42 pmRantingTommy Says:
He cleans his mommys house for the change he finds under the cushions of the couch
the change left by his various “uncles”, curiously all named “john”
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Oh that was GOOOOOD
April 24th, 2009 at 8:43 pmI think it’s more likely he’s a TP operative.
I mean, have you seen the comment counts on threads on which jay plies his magic?
April 24th, 2009 at 8:47 pmWell the reason he wouldn’t even “get close enough to touch” you is because you’d likely be too busy running.
And as for being a “big man with a key board in front”, you won’t even tell people what you do for a living so the “tough act” is difficult to enjoy amidst your over the top cowardice.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:58 pmHere’s the last thread jay blew all to hell.
Both that and this one might have had a lot more people passing by, considering leaving a comment to add to the discussion, but who decided that the post count was way too high for them to wade through and get caught up on. I’m sure a number of people just skipped over such threads because it just wasn’t worth it.
Which is a bad thing, because they might have some insights worth reading, or presented some oppositional arguments worth debating.
jay tends to pick on one thread at a time (which is a good thing), but his presence destroys those threads so thoroughly that they become nigh-useless. The fact that the only threads he has participated in also happen to be the ones that completely go off the rails pretty much demonstrates that he’s nothing more than a cancer here at TP.
It would be helpful if people would quit responding to him in kind. Although flagging all of his off-topic insulting posts isn’t too hard, flagging everybody’s is a pretty difficult task. In fact, just don’t respond to him at all; he only makes on-topic statements to lure people into insult contests. He’s admitted as much, repeatedly, in this very thread. Whenever you see him, just talk to someone else and flag his post.
Oh sure, he won’t give up – he’ll read this and take it as a challenge. But in the long run, we’ll all be better off and everybody can have a more enjoyable TP experience.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:58 pmYea but that’s easy to fix.
FOX NEWS GOT BUSTED LYING ABOUT DHS.
There.
Thread fixed.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:03 pmFifteen posts about me while I was gone.
You people are truly the morons I always knew you were.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:04 pmPlease do not engage the troll Jay i9n conversation. Simply flag all his posts.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:09 pmYou destroyed the posts I didn’t. So predictable. I had fun with all your silly posts. Most of which were off topic. Now if you idiots stayed “on topic” it wouldn’t of happened.
You all dance so well. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. LMAO
April 24th, 2009 at 9:11 pmLiar. You were never gone.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:12 pmFlag your own posts Dungbeetle. You had absolutely nothing to say as usual.
Hey Levi, what company did you steal from today?
April 24th, 2009 at 9:12 pmI went out for a strawberry sundae. What did you do? Post to your moron friends. Now your dancing for me again.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:14 pmWhat’s wrong Wayne, can’t keep up or take a dose of your own medicine.
I don’t think Fox lied about anything. The man was there and now he’s not.
That’s called being fired no matter how you dress it up.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:17 pmStill can’t read can you, homeschool?
Go up and read junior. I posted nothing but two simple posts in all that time.
And 60 seconds later, there you were.
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Back from your “strawberry sundae”.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:17 pmPlease do not engage Jay in conversation, he is a troll and should be ignored and flagged.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:17 pmFLAGGED
April 24th, 2009 at 9:18 pmFox lies about everything.
And they got caught lying here.
Deal with it Wormwood.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:19 pmFox news is only news to people with double digit IQ’s.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:21 pmMackin will still be serving in government, going to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence “on a detail.”
Although Napolitano has said that she stands by the report’s conclusions, Kudwa told ThinkProgress, “As the Secretary has said publicly, though, the report shouldn’t have gone out in the form that it did. We’ve addressed that process to ensure it does not happen in the future.”
Fired.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:22 pmThe Fox News audience curiously coincides with the readership of the National Enquirer.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:23 pmNow you see him, “Makin”, now you don’t.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:25 pmThe poor troll’s trying to sound like he has an argument.
Notice he’s too stupid to read the part of the article that points out that Mackin was only “ACTING” in the role on a “TEMPORARY” basis.
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Course, people who watch “Fox” don’t usually get bogged down in details like “facts” and such.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:26 pmFox News is just reichwingnut propaganda, that’s all it is. It has zero journalist integrity.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:27 pmIt’s a problem with the home schooled in this country.
Goering, fat pig that he was spoke of this syndrome when he explained how the mental midgets of a country can be lulled into following the federal propaganda machine all the way to war.
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Their stupidity was the Reich’s momentum.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:29 pmOf course he was just “ACTING” but his acting career ran out.
And it did become very “Temporary” after he was removed.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:29 pmFox News is a for stupid people.
It’s “News” for stupid folk.
News that doesn’t weigh down their tiny little brains with all those pesky facts and lucidity.
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Sort of “Truth-lite” if you will.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:30 pmI suspect that many more ACTORS will become temporary in the future.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:30 pmPlease do not engage Jay, he is a troll and should be ignored and flagged.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:30 pmHey, I got my information from TP.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:31 pmMaking baby talk won’t change the facts.
He was never nominated by the President to the role. He was in an “acting capacity” as are many Presidential appointee’s in a new administration.
You can make silly all you want but it won’t change that fact.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pmSo what you are saying is that because he wasn’t nominated by Obie he didn’t count and never existed.
I see.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:37 pmNo.
You get your information from the other home schooled idiots over at Fox Idiot’s News.
Because like them, you’re too stupid to know what a presidential appointment consists of, or what happens in a new presidency transitional period.
That’s ok though.
That’s why there’s Fox news.
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For people like you.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:37 pmMy information comes from Amanda and TP directly as was evident in my previous post.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:39 pmNo idiot, you don’t see.
What I said was he was in an “acting” capacity, which is a “temporary” capacity, but obviously mom didn’t get to those big words in your home school courses.
You’re just too stupid to know what “temporary” and “acting” when it comes to an appointment means, but that’s ok.
Like I said, that’s why there’s Fox News.
For idiots like you.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:39 pmJay is still here, did the short bus forget to pick him up?
April 24th, 2009 at 9:40 pmNo. Because TP and Amanda’s information identified his role as an “acting” role.
Then again, like I said you’re too stupid to know what that means, so it’s really moot.
If you are trying to get your information here, I’d advise you first work some more at home with maw and the Speak-N-Spell, then come back for some actual information.
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When you can actually read.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:41 pmIn the meantime I suggest you keep watching Fox.
With the rest of your family.
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“Fox Und Fruends”
April 24th, 2009 at 9:41 pmPlease don’t talk with Jay, just ignore him and flag his comments.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:42 pmWell Wayne, you should be more specific in what you post.
Let me see now, if the President fails to remove a temporary government worker in an important post and he does what he did, then he doesn’t count.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:42 pmWhat’s wrong Levi, you can’t allow a person with an opposing view to use his Constitutional right to free speech?
He has to be flagged.
How liberal of you.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:44 pmJay does so much picking at nit maybe he is a chimp.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:45 pmDidn’t say anything of the sort pinhead.
Inventing nonsense positions to try and change the fact that you tried to claim he was fired when in fact he was a TEMPORARY appointment in an ACTING role, won’t work.
You’re just another illiterate troll, which is par for the course for Fox threads.
You’re an idiot.
Just like the moron’s at Fox.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:45 pmYou guys were made for each other.
Idiots deserve idiots for friends.
:D
Fox and friends.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:46 pmNow you see him, now you don’t. Curious.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:46 pmNothing to say Wayne. You’re done.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:48 pmCurious is how your brain generates enough electricity to move your fingers.
That’s what’s curious.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:49 pmBe specific Wayne, my boy. Stop the gibberish. Nothing to say? You should call it a day then.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:50 pmYou’re done. Go take a nap.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:50 pmHI jay. I was talking to the TP mods, and they said to say “thank you” for all the page hits you’ve generated with your particular brand of oblivious trollery.
Well done!
April 24th, 2009 at 9:51 pmAlready said it pinhead. And you can’t refute it. Because it’s the fact. The fact your empty brain skimmed over in your day long tirade.
Because you’re stupid.
Probably come from a whole generation of morons.
And as for when I’m done, troll?
Make no mistake about it.
I’m done when you’re done.
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Troll.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:51 pmPlease do not engage jay in conversation. Jay is a troll who feeds on attention. Please ignore everything he says and flag every comment he makes.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:51 pmTell them that they are welcome for me. They can also come here and thank me in person if they like. I won’t mind.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:53 pmI realize polysyllabic words must appear as “gibberish” to you, however those of us not stupid enough to watch Fox news understand it.
He was not fired. His replacement was in the works already.
But feel free to cling to this story to defend your masters at Fox.
Serve them well troll. They’re all you’ve got now.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:54 pmLevi, that is how people like you silence others. How very liberal of you. Threats and nonsense is what you do best, isn’t it? You have to be you I guess.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:55 pmThey would but as you stated earlier this evening you’re too afraid to give out ANY personal information about yourself.
You won’t even give out your occupation…as if anyone could identify you from that.
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Is it their fault you’re a coward?
April 24th, 2009 at 9:55 pm;)
April 24th, 2009 at 9:56 pmCoward.
April 24th, 2009 at 9:58 pmYou’re not very clear in what you post Wayne old boy. You cling to the political nonsense if you want to.
The guy is gone. Now you see him, now you don’t. Keep your head in the sand if it helps you to deal with things. I got my info right from Amanda and her article. I quoted it a couple of times for you.
Hey whatever lets you sleep at night.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:00 pmJay is desperate for attention, but fears attention in the real world. He fear attention irw because he knows he is surrounded and in the minority. It’s a very scary time for reichwingnuts.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:01 pmMakin now works somewhere else. Now you see him, now you don’t.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:01 pmSure I am. I’m precise and concise in what I post….little boy.
I said he was in an ACTING capacity and was naturally going to be replaced.
As for “political nonsense” I don’t belong to a political party little boy, so you can stow that nonsense.
I just know stupid when I see it. I know liar when I see it. And I know coward when I see it.
And you’re all three.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:02 pmWhich is quite an accomplishment.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:03 pmJay says, “Hey whatever lets you sleep at night.” That’s really ironic coming from one of the right wing pro torture monkeys.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:04 pmDo you think I don’t know that I’m surrounded here Levi. You really are dumb. I also know that I am in the minority here. Don’t you like minorities Levi? Something wrong with them?
Well the Constitution will protect me, right?
April 24th, 2009 at 10:04 pmI’m not sure that being stupid qualifies as a minority.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:05 pmJay must have blisters all over his feet from all the dancing he’s been doing for us. Too bad.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:05 pmNothing to say Doodle? I sleep just a bit lighter with the knowledge of who is running the country right now. I’ll get use to it, it’s only temporary.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:06 pmFunny that the torture monkeys think the Constitution should protect them. I thought Bush convinced them it’s just a piece of paper.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:07 pmYou have to believe in it first.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:07 pmHow’s your lip feeling Doodle? You’ve been on the hook all day.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:07 pmYou’d think he’d have built up calluses by now, but you know those ballerinas. Always so delicate.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:08 pmYea.
For the next FOUR YEARS.
:D
Deal with it loser.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:08 pmI wanna torture people who scare me and I want the Constitution to protect me. Oh the mind of a Fox viewer is a tiny thing to behold.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:09 pmHey Levi, I have to go. The daily receipts have just come into my office.
OBTW Levi, a little hint for you, I keep my accounts in the same offshore bank that Hillary does.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:09 pmYou really want to torture people who scare you Doodle? How about people who don’t agree with you?
Now we are getting somewhere.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:11 pmReal ballerinas are tough. Faux Fox types are all pathetic pansies.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:11 pmChickenhawk right wing torture monkeys waving around the Constitution. Oh the irony.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:12 pmSell a lot of Big Mac’s today did we?
April 24th, 2009 at 10:12 pmHow did those new Chicken Wraps do?
April 24th, 2009 at 10:13 pmI am Wayne my boy. Just 4 years and it will all be over.
I really have to go. Hey, hate your neighbor. See ya.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:13 pmIf the reading comprehension of all homeschooled wingnuts is as bad as Jay’s no wonder they can’t understand science.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:14 pmUntil he’s reelected.
:D
April 24th, 2009 at 10:15 pmYup.
And after this Summer passes, and then we pass through the fall….and then the long cold Winter…followed by another spring…just think.
:D
Only THREE MORE YEARS.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:15 pmIsn’t this the guy who previously claimed he never gives out “personal information” to “idiots, morons, and leftists on a blog”? Or something like that?
Can someone check me on that?
April 24th, 2009 at 10:16 pmYes. I just reposted him saying that.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:17 pm“Daily receipts” is a euphemism for “It’s after 10 and my mom kicked me of the computer and put me to bed.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:17 pmNo, I’m going to have to believe him on this one Shayne.
10:00 EST is standard closing time for most small town McDonald’s restaurants.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:19 pm:|
Or Walmart’s.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:19 pmOh, yea.
Fox News got caught lying.
:D
Fox News sux.
April 24th, 2009 at 10:22 pmWow. What happened? 9 minutes after I left you people shut the place down. What’s wrong, can’t you morons carry on a conversation without me being here?
Did your mommies put you all to bed. Sweet children. Wayne, I drove by Mc D’s on my way home and they were still open.
OBTW not everyone lives on the east coast.
Ralph I just left a little tidbit for old Levi. You know, what you do, playing games.
I guess without me to keep you dancing you all fell down.
Thanks for the amusement kids. Sorry your lips are so sore from being on the hook all day.
Hey one more thing, I was listening to National Public Radio on the way home and they said that the banking report due out today will be delayed until May 4th. Some sort of problem with it they said. I guess Obie has decided to read this one before it’s released to the public.
That’s encouraging news. He may be catching on to what the job of President is all about.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:05 pmEnough thread hijacking for me. I had to flag jay, he has earned enough nickles on this thread today.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:03 amjay
April 25th, 2009 at 12:15 amhave you found the report reference which gave rise to the insinuation yet or have just been d icking around for a few more hours?
WOW! 634 posts (and counting)! Looks like jay the dancing puppet “hijacked” this puppy – just the GOP highjack the House, Senate and the Presidency for the last 10 years or so. Also, looks like the same results have materialized – disaster!.
Anyone with 1/4 a brain can see how messed up this country has become with the GOP and Republican’t in power.
April 25th, 2009 at 4:45 amFLAGGED
Geezer, is this how you deal with a person with an opposing view? Well you are who you are here. You idiots kept the Dancing going not me. Very amusing people in the world of leftist idiocy.
Hey, I never saw an “Antman” before.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:11 amI didn’t hijack anything. You people just don’t know when you’re on the hook. You hijacked the thread with your silly little games that you play.
You are who you are I guess. One would think that you would catch on after a while but closed minded people are so myopic.
OBTW I see that the bigot is back.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:15 amSee ya morons. I’m going out to enjoy some Global Warming.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:15 amBye Jay! Be sure to put on your SPF-99 sucker! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 25th, 2009 at 10:20 amTo all those who wish to flag me, well the Admin like me here. Ralph said they enjoy having me around to boost their site count.
So if you folks keep dancing for me Admin would be very thankful.
Your silliness kept a nowhere thread going and you provided a days worth of amusement for me.
Till the next time my little puppets, keep dancing. I remove the hook from your lip for the time being.
Hey, one more thing, Hate your neighbor.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:34 amHi jay:
I wouldn’t flag you because you’re one of the nicer Trolls. Keep up the good work.
Luv your neighbor
April 25th, 2009 at 11:57 amSo by your own admission you’re purpose was to harass and cause trouble for your “amusement”?
You do realize that is a clear admission of guilt with regards to being a troll, right?
:|
It’s the very definition of a troll.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:28 pmFrankly, I’d be ashamed to admit that my entire purpose was nefarious, and my motivation was of a dark, bellicose nature.
:|
Course I got scruples-n-all…
April 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pmI guess the peculiar thing here is you actually seem to think that increasing TP’s post count is somehow detrimental to the blog.
:|
Guess I shouldn’t do anything to offset that belief.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:31 pmOh, and did I mention FOX NEWS GOT CAUGHT LYING?
:|
Not that that’s unusual or anything,….being as their entire show is merely a propaganda arm for the republican party.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:33 pmThank you. For the rest of you here, “Hate your neighbor”.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:56 amYou still don’t get it. It’s for the entertainment factor Wayne old boy. Why are you here and do you take this site serious?
It’s for the entertainment factor Wayne old boy. Offset what you like. You just make everything possible.
Wayne old boy, you and all the others here make it all possible. I would think that such smart liberal people such as yourself would have realized that by now, yet here you are.
I’m here for the entertainment Pal, not a lefty lesson.You added 4 more posts to the count long after I left.
You are who you are, what have you proven, nothing?
Hey Wayne, Hate your neighbor. Keep up the good work. See ya next time when I need to be entertained.
Same to you all, Ralph, Levi the crap roller, db, bigot and all the rest.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:08 am“nefarious”, nice word so is “bellicose”. I like them.
Of course Wayne you would consider entertainment to be dark and bellicose. Only a person such as yourself would.
I end with “hate your neighbor because most posters here “Hate” half of the people in this country because of their views and political leanings.
The chance that your neighbor doesn’t believe as you do means that you hate him for it. Just my opinion of course and by my observations of how you treat people here.
SOOOOOO I end with “Hate your neighbor”.
Remember, Hate can become all consuming. Luv ya, and oh ya, “Hate your neighbor”.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:25 amJay Says:
Oh I get it. You’re a dirt bag who’s life is so pathetic you have to entertain yourself by wasting your time insulting others and convincing yourself that because they actually “respond” to your nonsense that somehow “they’re” entertaining “you”. What you don’t seem to realize is it’s you who is here on our turf, entertaining us and dancing to OUR music.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:16 pmWe’re just pissing on you and for some reason you seem to think it’s rain.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:18 pmAnd so the bigot pops up her ugly head again on a 3 day old thread.
You are who you are.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:43 pmWell Wayne old boy, you seem to be posting your garbage to me and that’s what’s so entertaining.
You keep doing it. Keep dancing.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pmYou mean keep pissin?
Sure.
Open up dumbass.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:05 pmOpen wide and I’ll try to hit your mouth this time.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:06 pmStill dancing for me Wayne old boy. How dumb are you?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pmNot so dumb I can’t tell who’s dancing for who, nimrod.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:33 pmAnd you’re dancing for me.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:34 pmSomething apparently inherited maternally.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:36 pmYou truly are ignorant Wayne. You have pushed this ,now 3 day old nothing thread, to a 660 post count. Why? To post to me. Dance little boy, Dance.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:58 amNo, you dance little boy.
Dance.
April 28th, 2009 at 11:55 amStill dancing I see. Now pirouette Wayne.
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