Note To McCain And Fox News: Bush’s DHS Also Objected To Terms Like ‘Islamic Extremists’
Note To McCain And Fox News: Bush’s DHS Also Objected To Terms Like ‘Islamic Extremists’
Today, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) went on Fox News to add to the right-wing backlash against Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. When Fox and Friends host Brian Kilmeade asked McCain “how messed up has Homeland Security been since they took office,” McCain agreed that “some mistakes have been made, obviously.”
McCain and Kilmeade then criticized Napolitano for dropping terms like “terror” and “Islamic extremists”:
KILMEADE: Do you have a problem calling terrorists, Islamic extremists, terrorists or using the term terror or man-made disasters?
MCCAIN: No, I don’t. Nor do I agree with overseas contingencies because those overseas contingencies can quickly turn into a domestic contingency unless we take care of them overseas.
KILMEADE: But that’s the mindset, Senator. Does that mindset worry you?
MCCAIN: I know. It worries me a great deal. But this change in language comes down from the very top.
Watch it:
This change, however, was also adopted during the Bush administration. Last year, the Department of Homeland Security under Secretary Michael Chertoff released a report saying that phrases such as “Islamic terrorist” may actually be hurting counterterrorism efforts:
Because of religious connotations, that report, released in January and obtained by AP this week, counseled “caution in using terms such as, ‘jihadist,’ ‘Islamic terrorist,’ ‘Islamist,’ and ‘holy warrior’ as grandiose descriptions.”
“We should not concede the terrorists’ claim that they are legitimate adherents of Islam,” the report said, adding that bin Laden and his adherents fear “irrelevance” more than anything else
Regarding the “war on terror” catchphrase that has largely been dropped across the Obama administration, a RAND study in July 2008 concluded that “the United States should abandon the use of the phrase. “The term we use to describe our strategy toward terrorists is important, because it affects what kinds of forces you use,” said Seth Jones, the study’s lead author. “Terrorists should be perceived and described as criminals, not holy warriors, and our analysis suggests that there is no battlefield solution to terrorism.”
Transcript:
KILMEADE: Outrage continues to build this week over Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, the former governor of Arizona, her remarks towards U.S. veterans.
Now, the DHS has fired the head of Homeland Security’s agency — that is involved in that decision. Many are wondering is Napolitano next.
Joining us right now, a man that knows her well, Arizona senator, U.S. veteran, Senator John McCain.
Senator McCain, how messed up has Homeland Security been since they took office?
MCCAIN: Well, I think some mistakes have been made, obviously. I was glad to see that Secretary Napolitano removed the person who was responsible for this report. She has apologized. So I’d say that mistakes have been made. Let’s hope she rights the ship very quickly and goes about defending this country, including, recommending sending the National Guard to our borders so that we can make sure this violence by the drug cartels doesn’t spill over into the United States any more than it has. [...]
KILMEADE: Do you have a problem calling terrorists, Islamic extremists, terrorists or using the term terror or man-made disasters ?
MCCAIN: No, I don’t. Nor do I agree with overseas contingencies because those overseas contingencies can quickly turn into a domestic contingency unless we take care of them overseas.
KILMEADE: But that’s the mindset, Senator. Does that mindset worry you?
MCCAIN: I know. It worries me a great deal. But this change in language comes down from the very top.
KILMEADE: And have you had success when you talk to the very top and explain to them the risk for all this?
MCCAIN: Brian, the best thing I can do is be active in the United States Senate, go to the floor, pass laws that — and to come on shows like these to make the American people aware that we are in two wars and we’ve seen a little escalation in Iraq which makes us nervous about when we withdraw our troops; the Afghanistan situation is worse. And that’s my job is to talk to the American people.
KILMEADE: Right. I understand, Senator.
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Typical republic B.S……Do as I say not as I do.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:31 amThis post screams for an episode of “Grampy McSame” by Buckie Boy…
**hint**
April 24th, 2009 at 11:32 amThat should say:
April 24th, 2009 at 11:33 amJohn McCain (R) Arizona
Former Presidential Candidate/current dooshbag
Thank God for the internet, where right-wing memes die a quick and painless death.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:33 amNow, the DHS has fired the head of Homeland Security’s agency — that is involved in that decision. Many are wondering is Napolitano next.
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MCCAIN: Well, I think some mistakes have been made, obviously. I was glad to see that Secretary Napolitano removed the person who was responsible for this report. She has apologized. So I’d say that mistakes have been made.
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Whoa whoa whoa – when did this happen? Is this true?
April 24th, 2009 at 11:34 amchiroptera toasterhead Says:
MCCAIN: Well, I think some mistakes have been made, obviously. I was glad to see that Secretary Napolitano removed the person who was responsible for this report. She has apologized. So I’d say that mistakes have been made.
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Whoa whoa whoa – when did this happen? Is this true?
If McLoser said it on FUX, my guess is it’s a load of crap.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:37 amDamn, is he still alive ?
April 24th, 2009 at 11:38 amMcCain and his Repub buddies wouldn’t know that because they’ve had their hands over their ears & eyes for the past 8 years.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:40 amPerry logan Says:
Thank God for the internet, where right-wing memes die a quick and painless death.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:33 am
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… or live on indefinitely, despite being thoroughly debunked several hundred times over. It all depends which part of the Internet you visit, really.
April 24th, 2009 at 11:41 amDr. Hussein Matt Says
April 24th, 2009 at 11:44 am
There needs to be a law or rule that the loser of a presidential race needs to shut the h*ll up for 12 months after the election.
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Would we be willing to have this apply even if it’s a Democrat who lost?
Oh wait. Both Gore and Kerry were out of the limelight for at least that long following their election losses. Gore was busy with his work on climate change, and Kerry returned to his work in the Senate. Neither one went on the talk show circuit.
But we’re talking about Fox News here. And has-beens are all they have to work with.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:00 pmKind of off topic but I heard senator McCrazy yesterday whine about the release of the torture memo’s and the possibility of congress holding an investigation and McCrazy had the audacity to say that holding investigations would set a dangerous precedent for future Presidents.
Earth to McCrazy, allowing the crimes committed by a President or by anyone in his administration to go untouched is a dangerous precedent to set for future Presidents. No one is above the law Johnny boy, not even if your little King thinks they are.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:00 pmMcCain and Kilmeade then criticized Napolitano for dropping terms like “terror” and “Islamic extremists”:
This entire debate is retarded.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pmSo I guess they’ve nothing else to criticize Obama on?
“because those overseas contingencies can quickly turn into a domestic contingency unless we take care of them overseas.
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Crap, not the worn out old ‘kill them there so we don’t have to kill them here’ routine?
Geez, McIIIrd, you lost the election with garbage like that.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pmIsn’t you learnin anything?
Um no, Kilmeade slipped “Islamic extremists” into the middle of her question; it’s not a part of the grammatical structure. The worst thing you can really criticize McCain for based on that is that he needs people to explain things slowly to him.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:05 pmmk3872 Says:
McCain and his Repub buddies wouldn’t know that because they’ve had their hands over their ears & eyes for the past 8 years.
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Correction…McCain and his Repub buddies knew exactly what they were doing. They just all thought they would be the majority party forever and hold the White House indefinitely.
Since that little fascist wet dream has collapsed big time they now want to destroy our union of States, cry for revolution and violence, call 17 of our democratic congressmen and women socialists, etc, etc,.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pmUncle Fester,
McCain’s experience with torture was completely lost on him. He didn’t learn a thing. Or he’s just willing to continue to sell himself out until the day he dies.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pmJohn Boy needs to up his Aricept dosage. The disconnect is getting obvious.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:06 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says: “McCrazy had the audacity to say that holding investigations would set a dangerous precedent for future Presidents.”
Only dangerous to those future presidents who wanted to obscure, lie and deceive.
Can anyone imagine where this issue would be if Pork Chop had been elected?
Grampy would still be trying to keep his cabinets straight,
April 24th, 2009 at 12:07 pmand Palin would have turned the Naval Observatory into a day care center.
McCain’s experience with torture was completely lost on him.
More like lost to him. Since he has a hard time remembering what he said a week ago the 60’s and 70’s have to be long gone.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:09 pmHey McCain! You lost, nobody cares what you have to say. Get the picture?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:11 pmMcCain and his Repub buddies wouldn’t know that because they’ve had their hands over their ears & eyes for the past 8 years.
Now if only they could grow a third hand and place it firmly over their mouths.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pmHere’s something to scare the bejeebus out of Bush & Cheney.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:12 pmShorter McCain: Get off my lawn!!!
Fcuk the Republicans
April 24th, 2009 at 12:13 pmGod bless President Obama and his “Making Home Affordable Program” I recently attended a seminar on this program with my elderly mother who is going to have trouble holding on to her house in the near future.
The program has two options, one is for refinancing but to qualify your mortgage must be through Fannie or Freddie. But they have another option for those who don’t qualify for the refinancing option, it is called the “Home Affordable Modification Plan”
It is a very good plan which will give many Americans relief and help them keep their homes. The only catch is your mortgage holder must agree to work with the program and is only voluntary. There is a list of some financial institutes that have agreed to use this program.
If you or anyone you know is struggling to make their mortgage I suggest they contact their housing department of their country and look into this program. Here are two helpful government websites for anyone interested.
http://www.makinghomeaffordable.gov/
http://financialstability.gov/
April 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pmZ ~ And I just finished sharpening that sword lady justice is holding with my RUC-Ultra-Blade-Honificator.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pmcountry = county
April 24th, 2009 at 12:18 pmRUC,
America thanks you. ;)
April 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pmWhat can you expect from a guy who as recently as year 2000, called Vietnamese, “gooks.”
April 24th, 2009 at 12:23 pmHeh…my very republican sister sent me an e-mail with the subject “Homeland Security spied on Tea Bag protesters” she also had some right wing link.
I responded back to her with the following: So what is your point? Our government under Bush broke the FISA law when they with the help of AT&T were illegally spying on Americans. They also were spying on anti-war protesters, protesters at the RNC and DNC conventions, were you concerned then or are you only concerned now because the democrats are in control? Wasn’t the republican mantra “If you aren’t doing anything wrong or have nothing to hide you don’t have nothing to worry about” Doesn’t this still apply?
April 24th, 2009 at 12:25 pmGrampy McSame says – My friends back in the day we had names for people we had labels for those foreigners, that right, and we used them all the time, that way we could make people know to hate anyone like them, that’s what we would do, why I used to call some mellon-heads, or bean-poles, and corn-huskers were all the rage, some would call me pea-brain, I never got that one, but we knew back then how to keep everyone hating each other, as it should be, we would not care if they were nice or not, we would hate them anyway, that’s what our side does, and we do it so well, hey, banana nose, get off my wife…Trollop C**t, uh, oh, I put a potato load in my diapers….again.
it’s all in the names, gramp, keep up the good work.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:28 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says:
Heh…my very republican sister sent me an e-mail with the subject “Homeland Security spied on Tea Bag protesters” she also had some right wing link.
Its that old PC euphemology (Republican ’science’ of making up terms to keep themselves righteous)
Spying is when it is done to good Amurikans.
When they do it to the evil people it is gathering intelligence. One would think with all the intelligence they have gathered Republicans would be smarter.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:41 pmMore proof all losers are on Fox.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pmIt seems like now that the public has identified the republicans for what they are, their empty tricks fall flat. There glimmers of hope anyway. I know we all know what’s coming before they say it now.
April 24th, 2009 at 3:58 pmOutrage continues to be manufactured.
April 24th, 2009 at 8:34 pmMCCAIN: I know. It worries me a great deal. But this change in language comes down from the very top.Sen. McCain. I see that you get it. You really get it.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:30 amHow’s your view of the White House from your seat in the Senate? Now sit down and STFU. You lost big time.
Has the CIA cleared this McCain video to check whether that weird blinking pattern of his might be trying to send coded orders to Christianist terror cells operating in the U.S?
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