In an interview with Chip Reid on CBS’s Washington Unplugged yesterday, former White House press secretary Dana Perino attacked the Obama administration for its consideration of a truth commission to investigate President Bush’s torture program. An investigation would be a “political witch hunt,” Perino said, claiming the interrogation program was actually “safe, effective, and legal.”
When asked if she thinks waterboarding is torture, Perino tried to dodge the question, claiming she had simply never weighed in on the matter:
PERINO: What more is there to investigate? Unless they are on a political witch hunt. … Look, none of us want to talk about interrogation techniques. They are unpleasant for a reason –
Q: Well, they are not just unpleasant. Do you believe waterboarding is torture?
PERINO: I have never answered that question because I don’t know what I would have done in that situation, if I had to protect thousands of lives.
“Well you’re leaving open the possibility that it is [torture],” Reid noted. Watch it:
Except Perino has weighed in on the issue, and all indications are that she has said that waterboarding is not torture. When repeatedly pressed by reporters on whether the Bush administration tortured, Perino consistently and robotically responded, “We do not torture.” She uttered the phrase until the very end of her tenure, well after the CIA publicly admitted in February 2008 to waterboarding three detainees:
– “Let me just make sure it’s clear, and I’ll say it on the record one more time, that it has never been the policy of this President or this administration to torture.” [1/14/09]
– “We did not torture.” [11/18/08]
– “The United States has not, is not torturing any detainees in the global war on terror.” [4/23/08]
Even after former CIA officer John Kiriakou revealed in December 2007 that waterboarding was used, Perino responded, “But I can say that any interrogations have been legal.”
It’s unclear why Perino is trying to dodge the question of whether waterboarding is torture given that she has clearly rendered her verdict on the matter multiple times. Perhaps she now realizes she wasn’t being truthful when she was flacking for Bush’s torture program.
Who gives a flying burrito what that nasty dyed blonde bimbo has to say? She’s not only a liar, but she’s a stupid liar as well.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:07 pmTorture “protected thousands of lives”. If that was true, Ms. Perino, there would be proof positive of that fact. The only proof we have seen is that torture produces unreliable information, in other words garbage.
This woman has no conscience and no soul. If she did, she would not be able to sleep at night.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pmHrm, judging by how things are going, Ms. Perino… I guess that repeating something over and over doesn’t necessarily make people believe it, eh?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pmBush defenders are using a tautological argument. “The United States does not torture, therefore, whatever we did do, it wasn’t ‘torture’.”
And didn’t some prisoners die at the hands of interrogators? That doesn’t sound “safe, effective, and legal” to me.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:13 pmWhy are all of these ex-Bushies being given so many media platforms to spew their lies all over again?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:16 pmNews staffers could find full time gainful employment by simply keeping a file of all the contradictions and lies spewed by Bushies and repugniscum congressmen over the years and compile a video montage of the appropriate comments that woudl expose the lying POS.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:17 pmI’d say Dana Purina has a bright future as a FUX news model.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:20 pm#6 Jane
April 25th, 2009 at 12:22 pmThe Republican party is not only bereft of leadership, they don’t even have spokesmen who can speak coherently and consistently. All they have are lies and distortions.
But the media have found so little of substance with which to berate Obama that they trot out the toadies to fill the broadcast air space. The media has not yet accepted that the man in the White House was elected with a significant majority by the people – the media is still beholden to the methods and corporate heads they have prostituted themselves for over the past two decades.
Perino, Gingrich, Rove, Cheney — I’ve seen enough of them to last the rest of my life.
I’d like to “save” Ms. Perrino from waterboarding.
She’d be soooo grateful…
I bet with that slick tongue of hers, she gives a remarkable blow-job…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:23 pmSock Puppet
April 25th, 2009 at 12:27 pmI guess the Republican Righties believe ALL Americans are as stupid and gullible as their inbred base . . . “Real” Americans actually use their brains . . . and the internets tubes . . .
April 25th, 2009 at 12:27 pmThe more intensely evil the transgression, the more pedestrian and banal the visage.
These. People. Are. Monsters.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 pmWill someone please slap Dana Peroxide on the back because she’s hiccuping right wing lies again!
April 25th, 2009 at 12:28 pmPerino said … the interrogation program was actually “safe, effective, and legal.”
And that’s why the U.S. had Japanese waterboarders/torturers executed after WWII?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:35 pmYou know tokin, as hilarious as your comment at #11 is (and my, why has no one seen how attractive ms perino is?) it adds less than nothing to the discussion. Torture is a serious, serious issue. Trivializing it with sexist comments diverts the discussion and insults all the posters here, male and female. Children were tortured in your name, innocent people were traumatized and killed in the most horrific ways in your name, people who tried to do you harm will never be tried in a court of law and convicted because of the way bush decided to gather information, in your name, American soldiers will be tortured for retribution because of acts bush ordered, in your name And all you have to comment on is dana’s tongue.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:37 pmdasm Says:
Perino said … the interrogation program was actually “safe, effective, and legal.”
And that’s why the U.S. had Japanese waterboarders/torturers executed after WWII?
And that’s why they waterboarded KSM 183 times, because it was so effective…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:38 pmThe only thing considered illegal by the right wingers of America is peace, respect, and dignity. See?
April 25th, 2009 at 12:41 pmI tried to watch this, but listening to Dana Perino explain how the Obama administration was “wrapped around the axle” was too much. Listening to the mouthpiece of the most screwed-up administration of the last century criticizing the current administration for anything triggered my gag reflex. This was why I was still pondering how Perino was the “perfect” choice to speak about the topic. Or, well, about anything.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:42 pmIt is a fine ass day. Shouldn’t we all be outside? I ‘ve got bread cheese wine and fruit all prep for a picnic to a waterfall…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pmAh that should be “prepped” I suppose…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:44 pm“Perino, Gingrich, Rove, Cheney — I’ve seen enough of them to last the rest of my life.”
I’m wholeheartedly with you, marie.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:46 pmSounds good DB, it’s raining here, I’m heading to REI and the hardware store.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:48 pmSorry about that rain REI. I might hang out a little longer just to screw with that loser RealityCheck but that’s a whole different story…
cheers all-
Hey Jane it may not be Fall but it sure is Cider Run weather…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:52 pm(Bush) Family Circus:
In April 1975, Keane introduced an invisible gremlin named “Not Me”, who watches while the children try to shift blame for a misdeed by saying, “Not me”. Additional gremlins named “Ida Know” (in September, 1975), “Nobody”, “O. Yeah!”, and “Just B. Cause” were introduced in later years.
‘Additional gremlins’ otherwise known as Gonzales: (”Ida Know”) Rice: (”Nobody” as in ‘nobody could have predicted…’)…etc…
April 25th, 2009 at 12:52 pmThese types understand witch hunts. In the real world investigation and prosecution of crimes is called the legal system.
Something they only know how to dismantle.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:57 pmawwww! Yet another Bushie backed into a corner trying to explain why they are not criminals. Go back in the hole you crawled out of – please.
Oh, I forgot, Obama smoked em’ out.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:58 pm“The lefties are just being sore losers. They want to nail us for the laws we broke and are bragging about!”
April 25th, 2009 at 1:00 pmThe Debate is over in 1951 a trial of Japanese soldiers was decided as they were charged with waterboarding which the US delcared torture on US POWs. US Judges found the Japanese soldiers guilty and hung some and the others got 15 years in jail. Senater McCain spoke of this during his campaign. What’s more interesting is now Judge Bybee taught the legal history of World War II and included the trial of tortured and conviction yet he approved of it while working in the White House. Now all the do we don’t we, is it legal is not legal really doesn’t matter. US History answers that question. The fact is for 8 years President Bush changed the law and we did make Torture Legal for what ever reason. Fact President Obama reversed that and now we don’t torture anymore.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:06 pmIs there any news program on any teevee network that isn’t towing the Republican’s line ? I don’t think I’ve seen one.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:12 pmI used to tune into Bill Moyers but haven’t seen him much lately.
What Dana thinks here is pretty much irrelevant considering she thought the Cuban Missile Crisis was the Bay of Pigs.
She has no credible foundation from which to lecture from.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:16 pmKeith H. Says:
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Is there any news program on any teevee network that isn’t towing the Republican’s line ? I don’t think I’ve seen one.
I used to tune into Bill Moyers but haven’t seen him much lately.
Watch MSNBC – Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, The Ed Show, Chris Mathews. Liberal shows that rock.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/
April 25th, 2009 at 1:17 pmDana Perino admitted she had no idea what the Cuban Missile Crisis was. She has no credibility. Airing her opinion is disinformation.
Our mainstream media is muddying the waters on this extremely important issue in soliciting all these non-expert opinions.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:17 pmDana Perino was the Bush Administration’s answer to “Baghdad Bob”. She appears to get off on smugly dishing out her disingenuous versions of reality. If she were required to speak for more than 30 seconds without lying, she would be speechless.
Here’s the reality of the waterboarding/torture situation.
The FBI regarded the policy as ineffective, unethical, illegal and wanted no part of it. All branches of the military felt likewise. John McCain, the man that the GOP selected as their POTUS candidate has been very outspoken about how wrong it was for the U.S. to use waterboarding. Even some of the legal experts within the Bush Administration agreed that it should not be done. And lastly, some of the people within the the Bush Administration who either planned, administered, or participated in the torture at the CIA facilities or the military-run sites have come forward and expressed regret over their participation in torture of detainees.
So it’s not as simple as blaming Obama and the left for being whiney, weak, and un-American. You must also point your finger at everyone mentioned above and call each of them un-American….if you dare.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:19 pmJackie Says: The fact is for 8 years President Bush changed the law and we did make Torture Legal
Not quite. The Executive branch did not and does not have the power to arbitrarily over write the law. The laws still stand and they were broken. The use of torture was in violation of US and international law.
The President just chose to outlaw himself and his administration.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:19 pmAnd if the present administration chooses to not investigate and prosecute, they will also be in violation of US and international law.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:19 pmDid it ever occur to you that you were given false info to give to the press? Maybe you should talk to the person you replaced about that. No matter how you try to frame this subject, the Administration you represented, did t o r t u r e. Most of the world looked up to this country as the standard bearer that represents the things in this world that are good, and that goes for what most of the people in this country also believe. You and the people you represented have put everyone in this country in a shameful light that may never be reversed. This country DOES NOT TOURTURE!! You or anyone else from the Bush Administration who thinks they still have the power to sway public opinion the way you thought you use to be able to…keep it up…the people in this country are a lot smarter than you think they are. No matter how you try to frame this subject, it still spells torture. Look at what you have done…I for one am ashamed…So try and keep it up. The hole you and the rest of those arrogant bastards dug is just getting deeper. If I were Dick Cheney, or the rest of that group, I wouldn’t travel outside the country. You may get arrested. As for you Dana, just go away…nobody really cares what you have to say any more…as if we did before.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:21 pmIt is truly mind numbing contemplating just how stupid these folks are…even after Limberger re-education camp..
This quote ‘Look, none of us want to talk about interrogation techniques. They are unpleasant for a reason –’ should tell the whole story behind the legal reasoning why SHE should also have a seat of the plane to the Hague..
Her, just like her older colleague David Broder says today in the WaPo that investigations and prosecutions could turn this period in history into a witch hunt. Are these people braindead??
WAR CRIMES are NOT FORGIVABLE! At any level…..
April 25th, 2009 at 1:22 pmIf the prisoners in question were white Christian males would there be any ambiguity on this issue?
April 25th, 2009 at 1:24 pmI tend to believe Pelosi a lot more now, simply because the way Bush and Cheney “pimped” these memos to congress under false pretenses and the timing of Bybees confirmation, it’s just to synchronized?
Congress was told one thing while the Bush/Cheney team did the complete opposite and circumvented the law. Cheney is the complete architect and mastermind behind these memos. Ms. Rice better go and find a new dominatrix outfit for her upcoming hearings. Wonder what Libby will contribute?
Public outcry is prevailing here tremendously and I’m so proud of that. I’m still split over a truth commission or an independent prosecutor?
By a lie, a man… annihilates his dignity as a man.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:32 pm-Immanuel Kant
There is a prevailing, stupid, opinion that all of these detainees were plucked out of caves, where they were plotting sequels to 9/11, in their own filth, and that just being in American custody, in a hellhole like Gitmo, is a glorious step up.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:39 pmShe says interrogation techniques are “Safe, effective, and legal.”
And yet she also says they are “unpleasant.”
Heh.
April 25th, 2009 at 1:47 pmWhy is the MSM tolerating these “torture keeps us safe” horsesheit arguments/distractions.
NOTHING…NOTHING….nothing justifies torture!
April 25th, 2009 at 1:51 pmdigger Says:
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Well, like most radical Republicans, they only care about policies and procedures if it doesn’t affect them. Yet if Dana or any of the other a-holes who approved of the “interrogation techniques” found out that an American was being subjected to the same treatment, then they’d be screaming their asses off for the enemy to cease and desist.
Via Crooks and Liars the other day, I saw a post about an interview with Liz Cheney, who said that “enhanced methods” (which includes waterboarding) weren’t torture because our soldiers had gone through training for them. If an enemy waterboarded one of our troops, I’d like for her to get on TV and tell us that, “Oh, don’t worry, it’s fine. They’ve prepared for it!”
April 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pmPERINO: Look, none of us want to talk about interrogation techniques. They are unpleasant for a reason –
This what they’re reduced to now? “That’s an icky subject, let’s talk about flowers or something.” That’s all they’ve got?
I want to talk about interrogationt techniques, Dana. I want to talk about them a lot.
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Old Goat Says:
Hrm, judging by how things are going, Ms. Perino… I guess that repeating something over and over doesn’t necessarily make people believe it, eh?
They seem to still be completely unaware that modern society has invented devices capable of recording what you say, and of playing those recordings back later on. Luddites.
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Jane E. Schneider Says:
Why are all of these ex-Bushies being given so many media platforms to spew their lies all over again?
Because it keeps getting funnier and funnier the more we let them do it.
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labman57 Says:
Dana Perino was the Bush Administration’s answer to “Baghdad Bob”.
That is so right on target. Actually, they seem to have a lot of Bobs.
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Winski Says:
Her, just like her older colleague David Broder says today in the WaPo that investigations and prosecutions could turn this period in history into a witch hunt. Are these people braindead??
Broder? Bastard. They need to get off that phrase. First of all, it’s completely tired, and second of all it’s blatantly inapplicable. “Witch hunt” means you’re proceeding with an investigation regardless of no evidence. There is evidence. Thus, no “witch hunt.”
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eyeswideopen1 Says:
Why is the MSM tolerating these “torture keeps us safe” horsesheit arguments/distractions.
NOTHING…NOTHING….nothing justifies torture!
As a Real American Patriot ™ I am willing to suffer personal risk in defense of my country. They are not. They hate America.
April 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmeyeswideopen1 Says:
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Check this out…
crooksandliars.com/john-amato/nora-odonnell
The post is headlined Norah O’Donnell slaps down Liz Cheney over the use of torture, what is ‘torture’ and her father’s role in it.
April 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmthere are different levels of soul development.
new souls see no problem with torture.
do not judge intellectual capability with soul development.
a person can very smart and low on the scale of soul developmnet.
we as a nation will learn just as individuals learn.
look at germany and the torture they did.
there are all levels of soul development on this earth.
the atheists and the religious dont have a clue what I am talking about.
the spiritualists might know at least the valid ones not the frauds in it for the money.
it takes many years of research to find that the atheists and the religious fundamentalists are in the same boat. ie slippery slope paradigm.
one hit on america and we panic and do torture. what a successful hit. I am sure it exceeded his expectations.
afghan will be obama’s vietnam. he is making the same mistakes as LBJ and listening to his generals.
whoops yesterday kerry was listening to the lower ranks. brillant move but will obama listen.
americans love winners as we americans are bullys in the world.
all bullys are sooner or later defeated. our time is near.
April 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmspring heeled jack Says:
If the prisoners in question were white Christian males would there be any ambiguity on this issue?
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Yes, the ambiguity would still be there, the law is the prevailing factor here, they circumvented and broke the law compromising America’s moral integrities’.
I don’t want to travel the world as an American with the stigma attached that where a land that believes in “torture” and disregard for our own laws?
April 25th, 2009 at 2:03 pmBroder? Bastard. They need to get off that phrase. First of all, it’s completely tired, and second of all it’s blatantly inapplicable. “Witch hunt” means you’re proceeding with an investigation regardless of no evidence. There is evidence. Thus, no “witch hunt.”
If we can put a bad taste in peoples’ mouths re: investigations, then no evidence will be brought forth and Broder can relax knowing that this sh*t happened and he helped to cover it up. I think that’s why the rightwinger “journalists” such as Brit Hume and O’Reilly and Brian Williams and George Will all b*tch and moan so much about the blogs on the Internet: the blogs are putting out much more news than that networks ever imagined, and thus they are losing control over the information that gets out.
(Sorry if this is shows up twice. Apparently the filters don’t like the B-word).
April 25th, 2009 at 2:16 pmDana Perino has never answered anything directly! But she has made many mistatements, omissions and lies. And it continues: “Look, none of us want to talk about interrogation techniques…”
We are talking about admitted criminal violations of U.S. and International law, Ditto Head. Investigations must be done you friggin ditz. The more that comes out makes it mandatory by law. Now, we know that Pentagon lawyers were calling it torture and advising that it produced unreliable information, we need to find out why, then, did your bosses keep insisting on it. If people knew where you got your journalism degree you cluelessness could be damaging a lot of good people because they might think it was one of those Cracker Jack Diploma schools Republicans like to operate.
April 25th, 2009 at 2:53 pmPerino is there to indict her boss, slowly.
April 25th, 2009 at 2:59 pmteabaggers, especially her, why do you fools call justice a witch hunt?
April 25th, 2009 at 3:04 pmDear Dana Peroxide,
You can start telling the truth quickly or we can put you on a flight to The Hague under armed guard.
Maybe you should consider supporting America FIRST, otherwise, why are you not a traitor to this nation?
April 25th, 2009 at 3:04 pmBad Eye Says:
If we can put a bad taste in peoples’ mouths re: investigations, then no evidence will be brought forth…
I’m starting to understand how wingnuts use words. They don’t actually “mean” things in terms of having definitions that correspond to elements of reality.
Instead, words and phrases to them function as Pavlovian-conditioned squawks that serve solely to communicate approval or disapproval. Thus, for them any complex argument can be boiled down to either barking angrily or panting happily. Scientists, bark! Regulation, bark! Terrorists, bark! Rich people, pant pant…
This theory helps to explain why they can’t understand what we’re saying to them. When we say that scientists (bark!) believe that global warming will cause a disaster unless we regulate (bark!) CO2 emissions, they think we’d be crazy to agree (aka. pant) at/with it. Doesn’t make sense – two “barks” don’t make a “pant.”
It also explains how they can repeatedly state blatant contrafactuals. It doesn’t matter to them that up is not down, all that matters is whether the statment “up is down” parses to “bark” or “pant.” If it’s a “pant” phrase, then us complaining about it (aka. deeming it a “bark” phrase) doesn’t make any sense to them either.
When we try to use reason in discussion with them and the logical meaning of words leads to a conclusion that opposes their bark/pant analysis, they figure we must be crazy, stupid, or under the influence of nefarious liberal puppeteers (bark!).
In short: these people cannot be reasoned with.
April 25th, 2009 at 3:28 pmLet’s see, about a size 5 for the orange jumpsuit? Dana, are you complaining because orange isn’t a good color for you?
April 25th, 2009 at 3:31 pmSomeone must explain to Bimbo Perino what a WAR CRIMES IS. She has also to attend History lessons, one that includes the Nuremberg Trials.
April 25th, 2009 at 4:10 pmAlso, while at it, someone could tell her that because her boss’s LIES, two sovereign countries were invaded (Another WAR CRIME, war of aggression) and thousands on innocent people lost their lives as the result. She must also get acquainted with the number of US military personnel killed and injured in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If she still supports Bush after all that… well, Waterboard the B#**tch!
She dodges the question for the same reason she dodged questions before. She continues to obfuscate and try to blur the facts with BS. She is right. It is uncomfortable. But so what?
It is supposed to be. This is a moral issue. And like most of the Bush administration, they don’t do moral. It’s like the monster in the room. It should not be ignored. The whole issue is not a matter of simple discomfort like hemorrhoids. This is why she prefers to ignore it. After there is no use being uncomfortable. I mean it is already over. Whats the big deal? What an intellectual and moral airhead.
She is perfect for Fix network. I wonder when she starts? Obviously, denial is not just a river in Egypt.
April 25th, 2009 at 4:14 pmMoral. Legal. Decent. Honorable.
Words expunged from the Republican lexicon because not a one of them has a dollar value.
April 25th, 2009 at 4:25 pmThey don’t even attempt to be credible, yet they keep coming on TV.
April 25th, 2009 at 5:07 pmIt sounds like Perino is describing a condom with phrases like “safe, effective, and legal”. She sure isn’t describing what happened at Gitmo and elsewhere. Beside, why is she still acting like she is Bush’s press secretary — a position she was very mediocre at when she held it.
April 25th, 2009 at 5:09 pmCheck out perino’d on the Urban Dictionary!
perino’d
Hit by anything Karmic you didn’t see coming.
Dana Perino was perino’d by an invisible microphone during ex-President Bush’s attempted Shoe Assassination in Iraq on Dec 14, 2008.
I thought I had gotten away clean running my money laundering operation when the IRS perino’d me.
April 25th, 2009 at 5:22 pmDallasNE Says:
It sounds like Perino is describing a condom with phrases like “safe, effective, and legal”.
April 25th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
I thought the same thing. Perhaps a Freudian Slip? American ideals get the royal screw while the Bush admin is “protected”…?
April 25th, 2009 at 7:41 pmHas Dana Perino sat down and thought about what she is doing here? I say yes, but she feels trapped. When you have a tiger by the tail you don’t let go. All the bushies are trapped and the tiger is getting more and more dangerous to them. They should have let go months ago, but look at the shit they are in now! I guess they’ll ride that tiger all the way to long prison terms.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pmAmerica doesn’t torture……anymore.
April 25th, 2009 at 8:38 pmFor the love of God, would someone please replace Dana’s lip gloss with superglue? Hopefully she’ll superglue her lips together and never be able to speak again.
April 25th, 2009 at 11:22 pmLies are the last refuge, and often first resort, of scoundrels and rogues, of which the Republican Party has plenty.
The latest and most virulent Republican-talking-point lie is that torture techniques were only used against high-value al Qaeda detainess to keep America safe.
If so many, if not all, torture session interrogation tapes and records (audio and visual, as well as transcripts) had not been already destroyed or hidden deep behind classification walls, then we could judge for ourselves.
And no doubt some questions directed at detainees during torture sessions after 9/11 (and both before and after March 2003) involved any al Qaeda plots they might have been aware of…but the corrupt and criminal Bush/Cheney administration was never all about keeping America safe…they wanted to attack Iraq, and any pretense would do.
Therefore, between 9/11 and Bush starting the Iraq War in March 2003, any detainees would have been questioned about their knowledge of any operational links between al Qaeda and Iraq, as well as questions seeking to confirm all the “information” on Iraq (involving al Qaeda links and Iraqi WMD) that the Bush/Cheney administration was receiving from Iraqi exiles like Ahmed Chalabi and the Curveball guy in German custody.
After March 2003, and once Iraqi citizens began being rounded up and “questioned,” torture session questions (like at Abu Ghraib) would have been about 1) where Saddam Hussein and his sons were hiding (through the end of 2003), 2) what information any of the Iraqi detainees might have had about Hussein’s hidden WMD stockpiles (probably questions asked of detainees up until the last U.S. WMD inspectors left Iraq, after finding nothing), and 3) what, if any, attacks against U.S. occupation soldiers and Iraqi civilians were being planned by “al Qaeda in Iraq”…with very few, if any, questions involving planned al Qaeda attacks inside the United States.
The CIA torture session tapes and records would have been (and still may be) invaluable in understanding the full range of questions that were asked detainees (to say nothing of any torture-session records kept by torture sub-contractors). And I bet that most, if not all, of these torture-session records are in the detainee files that Dick Cheney took with him when he left office…which he has already destroyed or will destroy if ever there is a future court order demanding that he turn over the torture-session detainee files to the proper authorities.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 amAnd I bet that most, if not all, of these torture-session records are in the detainee files that Dick Cheney took with him when he left office…which he has already destroyed or will destroy if ever there is a future court order demanding that he turn over the torture-session detainee files to the proper authorities.
Those records should be subpoenaed immediately (if they do, in fact, exist). If he destroys them after that, he would be tampering with evidence, while no longer Vice President, and subject to going to jail.
Unfortunately, owing to the fact that he has a documented heart condition, any prison sentence would likely be commuted by a compassionate president. But we still might be allowed to spit on him when we see him in the street.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:43 amI am just sick of the corporate media allowing this propaganda to persist.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:07 amWho cares what “Dopey Dana” has to say about anything? She probably thinks that the swine flu started at the Bay of Pigs but it might have been the Cuban Missile Crisis since remember that both of these events are one in the same to her.
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