Secessionist Gov. Rick Perry asks for federal help to deal with swine flu.
Secessionist Gov. Rick Perry asks for federal help to deal with swine flu.
Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX), who was last making headlines for suggesting that Texas may consider seceding from the Union, is requesting help from the federal government to deal with a possible swine flu pandemic:
Gov. Rick Perry today in a precautionary measure requested the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) provide 37,430 courses of antiviral medications from the Strategic National Stockpile to Texas to prevent the spread of swine flu. Currently, three cases of swine flu have been confirmed in Texas.
According to a recent DailyKos/Research 2000 poll, “37% of Texans and 51% of Lone Star Republicans agree with Gov. Rick Perry’s recent suggestion that Texas may need to leave the United States. … Imagine the outcries of patriotism (or lack thereof) if Massachusetts or New York hinted at secession during the Bush years,” writes NBC’s Mark Murray. And imagine how Texas would deal with the swine flu without federal assistance.
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April 26th, 2009 at 9:20 amuse the money he asks for to build a face around the entire dump and suspend all travel from that third world cesspool known as texas. afterall, we must secure our borders.
Just what in the bleeding eyes of any deity you choose to pray to does political will have to do with prosecuting heinous crimes? Is America so morally bankrupt that we only obey the law when it is politically expedient? Fikrin Ne?
April 26th, 2009 at 9:22 amAha. Requesting help from the Federal government for a possible pandemic…and disaster relief after hurricanes and floods. Federal help in building roads he can travel on and bridges he drives over. Bet he’ll take social security checks and take advantage of the medicare system. Hypocrite.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:30 amYou know what we need to solve this problem? A BORDER FENCE that protects the 49 United States from the Dumbass Republic of Texas.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:31 amFunny – Maybee the swine flu was propagated by the Texass Republican’t pigs. They remind me of a rebelling teenager – cry and wine about “independence” one minute then asking to borrow the car and 20 bucks to screw around with their friends the next. Loooooosers!
April 26th, 2009 at 9:33 amthis clown had no problem getting lippy about sceeding from the union while the cameras were rolling from the major news outlets. thus, he should have no problem eating crow and asking for federal aid with the cameras rolling for the national six o’clock news.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:33 amLet’s make him beg.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:40 amI think the federal government should give Texas all the swine flue vaccine it needs, with the proviso that Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) first has to resign.
His secessionist comments are treasonous and he does not deserve to be a member of the government of the United States of America.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:41 amSo, Rick — I guess the “secession” idea you have is a an on-and-off thing? Where federal laws won’t apply to you, but you can still count on federal aid whenever you need it? I suppose you want the U.S. Armed Forces to defend Texas as well?
You’re like the kid who tries to run away from home but tends to change his mind around dinner time. Grow up.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:42 amTypical conservative. When they can’t handle a situation, they cry out for help and forget the personal responsibility nonsense. But when they don’t need immediate help, they bite the helping hand.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:43 amchrist, we gave them back that assclown known as 43, what more do they want? seceed already and name him king for all I care but enough of the red state welfare
April 26th, 2009 at 9:43 amWhy doesn’t he just have Chuck knock the virus out with a spinning back kick?
April 26th, 2009 at 9:44 amIn order to live here in Texas, you must learn to live with, love and pray to the God of conservative, obdurate Logical Irony. This is a routinely absurd God, who takes only what he wants when it suits him, and discards and discounts the same service or ideology competely at other times, when He feels the needs to “rouse the rabble base” and retain political office. The governors (Perry, Bush, et.al.) Kay Bailey Uselessness, John Cornbred and numerous state’s AG’s have developed this into a fine art.
If you do not learn to abide by this manner of thinking, you will go mad. Conversely, if you do learn to live by it, you will have gone mad, as well, but not realize it and secretly harbor a desire to own a house on a side street in suburban Dallas. God and Jesus are both said to live in the same block. We in Texas have all “seceeded” in doing smart stuff like this, before. Y’all come back real soon, ya hear? Press “2″ if you would like to hear this message in Spanish.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:44 amTo paraphrase a quote from Mark Twain:
Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were Texas Governor Rick Perry. But I repeat myself.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:49 amI thought the republicans always said that the US government can shove it and they will pull themselves up by the bootstraps, thank you very much?
April 26th, 2009 at 9:49 amand to be sure not to be branded as “socialist” I think the CDC should sell him the vaccine at fair market price. the price an uninsured person would have to pay for the vaccine seems fair to me.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:51 amPerry is the face of Republican hypocrisy, railing about Washington and small government and leaving the states to handle their own affairs and then in an instant to request federal help for Texas. I’m not sure wing nuts really know what they believe. Perhaps their belief system is so flexible that it can be altered each day based upon circumstance and achieving advantage.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:51 amGeorge Bush lives in the Republic of Texas, Rick, so I’m sure since he kept the United States safe for 7 years after 9/11, he surely could combat the swine flu in your new republic, right? I think it’s time to call The Decider of the Republic of Texas to create a vaccine to combat this virus!!!! His help is obviously needed since the United States is just pointing and laughing at you at the moment.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:53 amDumb Republicans
April 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am(sorry for the redundancy)
I’m sure the oil companies stationed in the Republic of Texas will come to your aid, Rick! Give ‘em a ring, Rick!
April 26th, 2009 at 9:54 amif texas were to leave the USA, it would quickly outpace Israel for the title of “top foereign aid recipient”
April 26th, 2009 at 9:55 amforeign too, doh
April 26th, 2009 at 9:55 amWould Israel allow that?
April 26th, 2009 at 9:56 ami dunno, dbadass, maybe we could have a reality show where reps from texas and israel compete for aid money by letting worms and roaches crawl on them and seeing who can eat the most foul type of insect
we can call it ‘the aid factor’
April 26th, 2009 at 9:58 amIs it possible it’s not the swine flu but could be the following virus where missing viles of it are missing from Fort Detrick (you know, where Dick Cheney ordered the anthrax virus to be sent out to liberals after 9/11 to keep the fear going that America was attacked on 9/11 because of us damn liberals!)?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/22/missing.virus.sample/index.html
Hey, could be. I did a post on this recently wondering if this virus is what killed the polo horses owned by a Venezualan in retaliation of President Obama shaking hands with Hugo Chavez. I was wrong, but we still have to wonder why there’s viles of virus missing from Fort Detrick at the moment!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:00 amRick Perry should halve his order, since half of Texans (HIS half) won’t be wanting any of that socialist serum.
Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com
April 26th, 2009 at 10:00 amGov. Rick Perry was against big government before he was for big government. Such a hypocrite. Perry thinks that he can pick and choose what services he wants from the government and not pay taxes to support these service.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:02 amPerry has long been rumored to be bisecessional.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:05 amThere’s no doubt. When TX votes in a RePugniScum governor it’s always a dum bass. From Bocth to Perry.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:07 amTexas economics/gov’t at work. Same idiot mindset as Bush.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:08 amTexas public health is hapless. They removed primary care as an essential public health service a decade ago. That means little access to anti-virals or flu shots for illegal immigrants.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:13 amStates were supposed to stockpile anti-viral meds as part of Bush’s pandemic flu plan. How much does Texas have?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:14 amOne thing is certain. If Perry expects to get federal aid in order to forestall a potential swine flu pandemic — aid which is probably a necessary evil, since a severe outbreak would almost certainly spread to the rest of the country — he’d better be prepared to put a sock in it with regard to his secession rhetoric! Biting the hand which feeds you is not nice. Then again, in my opinion, it’s even worse to expect food from the hand which you’ve already bitten! What a hypocrite…
Good grief…is there something in the water down in Texas which prompts neoconservative Republican politicians to do this?? George W. Bush did a very similar sort of thing with regard to the War In Iraq while he was in the White House. When the War In Iraq first got under way, Dubya sneered at those European nations which refused to participate in the “Coalition of the Willing” and threatened to refuse any contracts for projects in Iraq which originated in those countries — but when it became clear that the war was not going quite as well as he’d hoped, he changed his tune and tried to be friendly with them again so that they would help him out. What I still find myself asking is…what was it that made him think he was going to get help after he’d already been so dismissive of them? Desperation, stupidity — or arrogance?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:15 amPerry keeps his right hand balled into a fist while sticking out his left for handouts
typical right wing hypocrite
April 26th, 2009 at 10:17 amTeaxs doesn’t realize that without “yankee’s” they’d be a backwater
April 26th, 2009 at 10:19 amWHAT…Are you kidding me. This is the very same idiot that a week ago wanted to secede. How can any human being be this ignorant.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:29 amIt really angers me..Texas does not have a State income tax and they get $.88 cents back on every federal dollar they pay in taxes.
Then to whine about taxes and talk seceding just a week ago.
Now he wants help??? Scr*w Texas!
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April 26th, 2009 at 10:30 amHilarious. Thanks to all the posters for starting my Sunday by having to clean the coffee “spit take” off my monitor!
Rare form today…
April 26th, 2009 at 10:38 amI thought this mental midget was asking for a separation from the rest of us. He gave no thought as to what this would entail. Having to find his own funds for swine flu and any other outbreaks. Funding their own army without help from the rest of us. Having to see to their own protection. Not automatically getting help with natural disasters. Not to mention all the things they would have to acquire without the help of the US government. Funding their own schools etc.
This man alone is a natural disaster. He and Chuck Norris should go it on their own. Of course with Chuck Norris as president of Texas, what would Perry be? Two clowns. Ann Richards must be laughing her head off wherever she is.
The logistics of such a move boggles the mind. But I say let them do it. Who the hell cares?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:41 amNo US aid to Dumbassistan (Texas)
April 26th, 2009 at 10:41 amI think you are forgetting that Texas is still paying federal income tax. They have as much right to federal services in return as anybody else.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:43 amyou must be missing the hypocricy
April 26th, 2009 at 10:45 amyou must be missing the hypocricy
(excuse the previous copy and paste fail)
April 26th, 2009 at 10:46 amIf they want to succeed – they must plead!
For everything!
From now on!
Read my lips – NO SWINE FLU PILLS FOR YA’LL!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:47 amIf the US were to relocate every person with an IQ under 100, Texas would be the most cost-efficient location to choose, as it would require the least transportation efforts to acheive.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:48 amMove the border fence to the north side of texAss. Use the troops we pull out of Iraq to protect us from these goobers.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:53 amGov. Rick Perry today in a precautionary measure requested the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) provide 37,430 courses of antiviral medications from the Strategic National Stockpile to Texas to prevent the spread of swine flu. Currently, three cases of swine flu have been confirmed in Texas.
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I think this is a superb demonstration of the Republican governors stating one thing, and forced to do the practical. Talk is cheap and they are proving it over and over and over ect.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:54 amWhy not govern and skip the nonsense? The country would be a lot better off.
well, flight, in all fairness, Texass DOES have a larger swine per capita population than most states.
they have a lot of pigs too
April 26th, 2009 at 10:56 amNo US government help for you Rick Perry!
Signed,
The 49 United States of America Federal Funding Nazis
April 26th, 2009 at 10:58 amYou need money, Ricky? Raise taxes to texans. They’ll love you.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:02 amFlu? fu, Perry.
Let the legislature get it but not this dweeb. And he’s in Austin a lot? It hasn’t rubbed off.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:02 amOh and Obama won the counties, the counties, for San Antonio, Austin, Houston, and Dallas. And the borders, mostly. So who’s fed up, the exurbs and wide open dry lands? Hmm.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:03 amI think you are forgetting that Texas is still paying federal income tax. They have as much right to federal services in return as anybody else
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April 26th, 2009 at 11:09 amSo taxes pay for shit people want? Than why do I always have to put up with the tax whiners?
Pointing out that Texas is paying federal income tax constitutes trolling?? Gawd, what a pathetic place this is.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:11 amBecause you live in a democracy and your peers have the right to dissent. That’s why.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:14 amIf Texas leaves the US, they would suck us dry with foreign aid requests.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:14 amCan’t live with them, can’t live without them.
Why request only 37,430 doses of this anti-viris? Maybe just for his friends and family?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 amDissent against paying the taxes that they then want the services provided by?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:15 amHow many teabag parties were in Texas?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:16 amWell dear governor, that blows hot air up your ass. Great to criticize, but hard to get along by yourself. Nobody questions your right to request help from the Feds but it is patently clear than this “we can go it alone crap” is all political theater – you’re playing to the dumbest of your lot, which unfortunately is most of your state.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:19 amMy goodness – I’m totally cracking up off the comments. You guys have said it better than I ever could. Perry is just a grandstanding fool. Give the antiviral medication to TX but force Perry to make a public apology for all the BS talk about seceding from the union and then resign.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 amPossible transmission vector for swine flu discovered:
http://tinyurl.com/c7o7ej
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 amAny bets he just wants the vaccine for his neoconn cronies?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:21 amThe Republiscum channel is full Hypocrisy again today just like every other day.I keep forgetting the the Reich wing nut jobs want it both ways,secession and federal aid at the same time.These guys are a hoot a minute.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:23 amEnough with the pathetic word games already. They payed their taxes, now you provide the services they need. End of story.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:25 amAmericasBack Says:
Yeah – just dump a shyteload of teabags on the state capital steps.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:26 amHey Gov, what would Flush Limpaballs say about you getting help from the Federal Gov`t that is run by a Democrat.Would Mikchael (WIENER)Savage say yes,would Becky put your state into a panic over guns vs federal aid?Do the Reich Wingers have any answers?Only the “audacity of Nope”.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:26 amTo be fair, Texas is about even in federal taxes paid versus federal taxes received, so they’re not exactly the “welfare queens” that most of the red states are.
Also, does anybody really think that most of the pro-secession public really have any idea what it means (other than, “We don’t have to listen to Obama!”)?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:27 amEnough with the pathetic word games already.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:31 am–
Can’t handle the discourse?
makete Says:
Why request only 37,430 doses of this anti-viris? Maybe just for his friends and family?
It’s a farce. He’s playing smart to his “base”.
“Wow! I didn’t reckon he could count past 10 like Gbubya! Our Governor is smarter than that mooslem pres-e-dent!”
April 26th, 2009 at 11:31 amI wonder whether Perry spoke with any of the Texas or Federal public health officials before requesting foreign aide from the US. There is currently no vaccine for this new strain of swine flu so the 37,000 doses he wants are about as good as tap water.
So, ya think Perry, Mittens and Blago all go to the same barber? <>
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 amWhy should he and his ilk be given any products created by the very methods and people they disagree with – like scientifically created vaccines from the godless heathen in the north? Maybe just because they ARE hillarious.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:33 amYou are exactly right. I can’t handle the fact that people like you make liberals look like retarded little children in kindergarten.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:36 amRantingTommy Says:
Perry keeps his right hand balled into a fist while sticking out his left for handouts
typical right wing hypocrite
In that case, Governor Perry, we’ll extend a hand if you’ll unclench your fist. (I didn’t make that one up. :) )
April 26th, 2009 at 11:36 amLast I knew, the only people in America to earn the title, “Retarded Little Children In Kindergarten” were the right wingers who support George Bush, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann, and anyone else who doesn’t support peace or the US government.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:42 amExactly – why spoil the advantage by stooping to their level?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:50 amAmericasBack, you are a sad, sad person. You ought to take some anger management classes, you clearly have some issues.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:53 amwell, friend, it appears that dbadass may have a point, if you can’t reply to his question without wildly distorting what he said in order to make a tepid point (at best) about the intellect of people you seem to have wanted to engage.
The hypocrisy is that last week Texas Governor Rick Perry was talking big about the possibility that Texas might need to secede from the union, and this week he’s requesting federal help to combat the swine flu.
Yes, they paid their taxes, and yes, they’re deserving of federal aid, as citizens of the United States. It is, after all, what the union was built for — for all states to support each other in times of crisis.
But you must admit that it renders Gov. Perry’s big talk of last week a little bit ridiculous, no?
April 26th, 2009 at 11:59 amafeder Says:
AmericasBack, you are a sad, sad person. You ought to take some anger management classes, you clearly have some issues.
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rick perry?
federal aid?
:)
April 26th, 2009 at 12:02 pmCall the idiot out on his secessionist rants, and ask him how he’ll try to solve the potential pandemic-
April 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pmShow their childish and dangerous admissions for what they really are!
Maybe his buddies in the vaccine industry can hook him up! (tried to make Gardasil mandatory, or how an idiotic, abstinence- only political hack get ‘corrupted’ by $$$$$$$$$$$)
Shouldn’t governor Perry/Texas have their own supplies of antiviral medications instead of relying on handouts from the Federal government? Most liberal states/governments (NYC for example), have their own supplies and have made contingency plans. yet these ’state rights’ Republicans do NO planning for their own problems yet expect the Federal government to come to their rescue
April 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pmI say no money for those that want to run.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:06 pmvia C&L:
Uhh, Guys, About That Yankee Liberal “Oh, LET Texas Secede” Joke…
http://www.thoughtcrimes.org/s9/index.php?/archives/3045-Uhh,-Guys,-About-That-Yankee-Liberal-Oh,-LET-Texas-Secede-Joke….html
when did stupid get so popular…? … scary…
April 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pmThe idiotic GOP is hell-bent on providing solid evidence as to the impotency of their “brand.”
HECKUVA JOB, LOSERS.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pmI can’t handle the fact that people like you make liberals look like retarded little children in kindergarten.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm–
Interesting take on my comment. Would you be willing to expand on your thinking and show how your analogy makes sense. I look forward to it…
Just some thoughts about Tx secession:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/thebalilama/2009/04/what-could-be-behind-texas-sec.php
As Rick, Good Hair, Perry says, “If at first you don’t secede, try begging”
April 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pmafeder: The internet allows for sharper tongues on both “sides” of the spectrum. This site will rip you a new a$$ and then some for comments so, get used to it and HAVE FUN!
P.S. If you want sympathy, go to redstate.com
April 26th, 2009 at 12:17 pmEh, sorry, Guv – we’re saving that stuff for REAL Americans.
Too bad, so sad!
April 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pmBTW, the above post about the real Americans was pure, unadulterated SNARK.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pmOr maybe he hasn’t and I think it is just a waste of time to attempt to reason with types like him?
I don’t think it renders it ridiculous at all. Texas payed hundreds of billions in federal taxes on April 9. Of course they can’t afford to respond by themselves. If they had not payed any taxes (i.e. had seceeded), then it would be ridiculous to ask for help.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pmNo – wait! I have a better idea!!
Since that Republican Hero George “I kept you safe” Bush now lives in Texas – let HIM keep you safe from the swine flu, mmmkay…?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:24 pmOr maybe he hasn’t and I think it is just a waste of time to attempt to reason with types like him
April 26th, 2009 at 12:24 pm–
Sissy way out?
Hey afeder, quit taking us so seriously! Have some FUN ;)
Texas Governor said some stupid things in the heat of the moment of the teabagging riots and we’re “have’n at ‘em”.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pmThe whole “secession” rant was simply another example of disingenuous rhetoric from a member of the far right in an attempt to stir up his conservative base. Perry knows that secession is a ludicrous concept, but that will not stop him from using it if it gets his name in the press and draws the right-wing moths to his flame.
Another reason why the Republican Party is rapidly becoming irrelevant.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pmVaccines are soooo science-based.
Better to just pray away the swine flu.
Your God is listening, I’m sure.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:32 pmafeder Says:
I think you are forgetting that Texas is still paying federal income tax. They have as much right to federal services in return as anybody else.
No they don’t.
Let them secede and fund their own shit.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:38 pmafeder Says:
Dissent against paying the taxes that they then want the services provided by?
Enough with the pathetic word games already. They payed their taxes, now you provide the services they need. End of story.
Request denied.
Next.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:44 pmThis Perry guy looks like this “other” guy at this link:
leninimports.com/adolf_hitler_biography_2.jpg
April 26th, 2009 at 12:48 pmMaybe… but if that was what you were trying to say, it didn’t come through that way. It just came across like you needed to build a straw man in order to compete.
I notice you didn’t deal with the Governor’s “secession” rhetoric at all in your response. Just flat ignored it.
Of course it’s not ridiculous for them to ask for federal aid. What was ridiculous was the Governor’s absurd talk of secession when such a course of action is clearly untenable given this current health crisis.
The issue of secession isn’t simply about not paying taxes. It’s about not wanting to belong to the Union. THAT is what renders the Governor’s secession talk ridiculous.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pmScariest words in the English language……”I’m Rick Perry and I’m here to help”
April 26th, 2009 at 1:01 pm[P]rick Perry is a ridiculous joke.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:05 pmafeder Says:
well, friend, it appears that dbadass may have a point, if you can’t reply to his question without wildly distorting what he said in order to make a tepid point (at best) about the intellect of people you seem to have wanted to engage.
Or maybe he hasn’t and I think it is just a waste of time to attempt to reason with types like him?
dbadass happens to be one of the most rational, reasonable people we have here. If you don’t wish to engage in discussion with him, then you are not interested in debating the issues. To say otherwise is a lie.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:14 pmReminds me of the title of a parenting book for teens –
April 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pmGet Out of My Life, but First Could You Drive Me & Cheryl to the Mall
(honestly – find it here
Correction to your article.
Its not called Texas anymore. Its been renamed Tebaggerstan. ;-)
April 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pmThis is why I don’t believe anything these morons say.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:35 pmYeah, well, everyone (including those favoring secession and dissolution of the Union) laughed when Rick Perry started talking about Texas secession because he was one of the biggest Bush nuthuggers there was.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:41 pmI can hear it now. After TexAss (aka Teabagistan succeeds):
The liberals are coming!! The liberals are coming!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pmI don’t think it’s a good idea to deny Texas the vaccine, but at the same time, it should be a lesson to Perry and his followers that it is not a good idea to bash America on the one hand with threats of secession and on the other cry out for help. Why would someone opposed to science accept what it can produce? If the conservative position is to solve all of society’s problems without federal government intervention, that is their right. Just don’t be hypocrites, crying out that the federal government is interfering one moment, then begging when you need something only it can provide. Perry and his followers earned the ridicule they are now receiving. If they don’t want their posturing to backfire, they shouldn’t do it just to appeal to a core group of supporters. They should have learned by now that the man in the WH is NOT GWB, and that there is a new plan in place to meet the needs of the citizens, not to ignore them.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pmConservative quote of the century:
“fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
April 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pmIdea! We’ll send the “vaccine” BUT, we’ll switch it with a vaccine that cures the Republican virus! GENIUS!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pmAs Gov Perry makes exreme polarizing remarks for media attention to gain some sort of clout with his GOP lockstep in the wilderness. (Best be careful out in that wilderness from the likes of Gov Palin in a low flying aircraft bearing down on you through her rifles scope).
Why hasn’t Gov Perry chose the media course of Rush Butt Munching in public?
You know, where one makes the comment that Rush is an entertainer and then appoligizes to Rush for saying it?
April 26th, 2009 at 2:59 pmTexas Govenor says ” we don’t need you and we can go it alone, you keep your President and his Federal money” and cheers go out by Republicans. Oops Govenor Perry said ” President Obama Texas needs Federal help with this health crisis”, silence by the Republican Party. After the help is given, Governor Perry will again speak out ” we don’t need you and we can go it alone, that’s until we need your help again “, as the cheers go out by the Republican Party.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pmDon’t let my log-on name throw you…I’m not him.
Seriously, it’s tough living down here sometimes in the heart of Bush territory.
Much of the population embraces Limpbaugh and Hannity as spiritual leaders so that should tell you what it’s like.
Maybe it’s something in the water…
April 26th, 2009 at 3:08 pmteabaggers are just tards-tards.
All that stupid talk and look at them begging for government assistance.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:35 pmWhy would perry want liberal vaccine?
April 26th, 2009 at 3:57 pmWell, for the sake of the citizens of Texas, I sure hope those terrible folks in Washington don’t “thumb their noses” at the governors’ request.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:58 pm?????????? YOU ARE ASKING W H O FOR HELP ???????????????
April 26th, 2009 at 4:06 pmIrony is best served with idiocy.
I have a more pressing question about Swine Flu. Will Lou Dobbs and his band-o-racists capitalize on this new scare to push their anti immigration agenda.
Think about it…He’s done it before.
http://progressnotcongress.org/blog/?p=474
April 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pmThe request for vaccine from the “Democratic” federal government from the governor of Texas. A week age he was in anguish over government spending; intrusive big government and the dirty word “socialism” (cover your eyes, its that word). I am not sure but if we are a true capitalistic state, the federal government shouldn’t be giving anything away (handout, right).
April 26th, 2009 at 4:30 pmExcuse me Governor Perry, I am confused. You pontificate one week about big intrusive government. The following week you want the federal government to do something socialistic.
I can’t follow your rational. That’s right, this is Republican rational. It doesn’t have to make sense.
So this flu is not something made by god and only god can stop it? And now they want help from the socialist liberal who invest in science and health care?
April 26th, 2009 at 5:23 pmNO! Not until this governor publically pledges allegiance of Texas to the United States of America, or signs a promissory note to pay back this government for our assistance! Or, upon the resignation of Gov. Perry. Meanwhile, quarantine Texas.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:56 pmI thought I posted this, but it hasn’t shown up. I am new to thinkprogress so if it double posts, my apologies.
AmericasBack, Which site has the ‘White Pride World Wide’ emblem? I can’t find it in the talkingpointsmemo link I posted:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/ talk/ blogs/ thebalilama/ 2009/ 04/ what-could-be-behind-texas-sec.php
If it was there, I would agree with you, it would be pretty f*&%@d up.
That link was intended as satire, certainly not white power propaganda. Not my thing at all.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:10 pmAre all these sweeping condemnations of Texas as steaming pile of refuse really necessary? You guys are really just doing a disservice to your own intelligence by painting all Texans with same ignorant brush.
Yes, Gov. Perry is a side show idiot. Yes, the secession statements were irrational and beyond ridiculous. But did you not notice that less than 40% (according to the stated survey) actually gave any credence to the thought, and barely half of Republicans? That may be a somewhat alarming percentage, but certainly not enough to delegate the entirety of the state’s population to backwards hillbillydom.
I’m not a gung-ho Texan at all but I really get tired of the self-designated enlightened ones on these ‘progressive’ blogs stooping to the same brand of crude generalizations they find repulsive (”ya godless treehugging liberals”). How much do most of you really even know about the people in Texas, other than what passes through that stringent filter that keeps the self-congratulatory tidbits flowing, only allowing for those stories that let you amusingly condescend those darn Repugs.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pmWell said mrrowe,
I live down here in Texas and for every wingnut there is a great human being. Barbara Jordan was from Texas as was Mollie Ivins. We’ve still got Jim Hightower and loads more. It seems like the universe has a bias towards balancing things out.
G W Bush got elected twice as president and TX wasn’t the only state that voted for him. If you are pointing at Texas as a steaming pile of refuse, look at the other three fingers that are pointing back at yourself.
Honor yourself and leave the projecting to the rightwingnuts, they are much better at it and it is biting them in their butts.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:06 pmWell all I know is Governor Blagojevich, the indicted governor of Illinois, ordered flu vaccine and Tamaflu be stockpiled. And Illinois gets far less federal dollars paid back than Texas does.
In addition Governor Sanford, another whiny baby from South Carolina asked for federal disaster relief for fires last week.
They want autonomy until they need something.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:49 pmTo clear up the observation about a “White Pride World Wide” visual, it’s at This Link, not the TPM link, and the poster used that visual to equate to the blithering Freeper nonsense she quoted.
Read the post, it doesn’t suggest any kind of sympathy with white supremacists, quite the opposite actually.
And I’ll plagiarize my own reply from that link to post here.
I can certainly understand the cries of “let ‘em secede”.
But, as a lib myself, and as someone who’s lived in Texas-El Paso, the red-headed stepchild part of the state-the vast majority of my life, this talk by Gov. Perry, and his fellow knuckledragger Chuck Norris, of secession riles me up no end.
I had to live under Bush Jr calling the shots for 14 years, 6 as Gov, 8 as President, and while I called him every name possible, including “traitor” and “bin Laden appeaser”, not once did I ever write, or say, that because of two stolen Presidential elections, the Bush Jr Administration had to be overthrown.
I wanted them impeached and charged with crimes, revenge done through the legal system instead of an armed mob.
I could barely bring myself to vote for Obama-the FISA hypocrisy, especially dealing with retroactive legal immunity for telecoms and internet providers who spied on their own customers without a warrant-and I’m getting angrier by the day with his justifications of keeping/expanding the worst of Bush Jr’s Constitution-raping policies.
But I have no time with the slugs who want to overthrow the Obama Administration, or secede, after less than three months in office, I kept in my pants-politically speaking-during the Bush Jr years, so these blithering rightwing Obama bashers need to do the same.
Understand, Perry’s BS about secession isn’t backed by even a bare majority of Texans, but instead is approved of by about 18% of those polled.
El Paso is probably the bluest part of Texas, the GOP will never hold a majority of the elected spots here, so if Texas were to ever actually secede, then El Paso would, in turn, secede from Texas as well.
Something else to consider here.
Our House of Reps has 150 members, and the Dems are within three seats of taking the majority in this chamber.
The secession-supporting slugs can take a hike to friendlier environs, say, North Korea, a place where, since no criticism of Dear Leader is allowed, the riled up fringe of the GOP’s base would feel right at home.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:51 pmWell mrrowe and thebalilama, did you go to the teabagging event and point out that virtually every protester there with a job had received a tax CUT?
Oh and thanks for the CONCERN.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:52 pmI don’t know why all you Texans are telling us about it. Why don’t you tell YOUR GOVERNOR.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:55 pmWe should do what Bush would have done, which is make every personj who receives a dosage fill out a loyalty oath.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:18 pmSimple. If it was good enough for them to get into to see DickheadDubya, then they would have no problem attesting their LOYALTY to the United States of America.
GOP Know-Nothings Fought Pandemic Preparedness
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/430261?rel=hp_picks
April 26th, 2009 at 10:33 pmEven if he gets it it won’t work on Tom Delay.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:56 pmKingCranky, thanks for the head’s up on that other link. Very clear that the poster was not advocating for white pride at all.
I assure you, Doodlebug Shayne, down here in TX we are telling our governor ust what we think and his crackpot statement shows how scared he is. He is saying that kind of BS to raise money from the wingnuts, the folks that are freaked because President Obama’s middle name is Hussein.
Perry is way worried about Kay Bailey Hutchinson on the right and Bill White, a Democrat and the mayor of Houston on the left. Perry needs the money because he’s afraid he’s going to get whipped, he needs an island. I’m betting he will get whipped and not have the money for his island.
You don’t have to go to a tea party down here to tell a teabagger that they got a tax break. Texas is a target rich environment with folks who listen to too much Rush. I do engage people every day to expose them to a different viewpoint. I even change some minds [and votes]. As KingKranky said, we are 3 seats from having the house down here. The republicans themselves got rid of Tom Craddick, the republican speaker of the house who is a Tom Delay clone.
I am a 60 year old unreconstructed starry eyed, draft resisting, civil rights, peace and justice professional artist. I’m not mad at anybody about it, I don’t think it does any good at changing anyone’s mind. If I am going to spend time on something, I want a good shot at getting the result I want. Yelling and screaming at me never changed my mind, it only convinced me that an idiot was yelling at me.
We had GW as president for eight years. Did that mean that the entire country was guilty of the same things some of the posters are throwing at Texas? The whole nation got ripped off. That doesn’t make us stupid unless we keep letting them do it to us. We can get mad and stop them from doing what they have been doing. That’s what being mad is good for, stopping injustice, but once it’s stopped, I don’t think we should let them be our teachers and do to them what they did to us.
There are consequences and they must be paid. That’s justice. Retribution just takes energy away from what we need to get done. If we don’t pay attention, the right will just wait until our internecine bickering wears us out and they rip us off again.
If I were from the dark side, I would love looking at liberal blogs where lots of liberals were arguing with each other. One of our strengths is that we have loads of new ideas. It is also one of our weaknesses because we tend to be monogamous when it comes to our own families of ideas. We are coming from scarcity. We live like we can only get one thing done at a time.
We love our pet issue above all others. Some of us think civil rights should be the party focus, others say the environment, or health care , or family planning, etc. Each of us has affinity for different issues and and thinks it is the most important. So nothing gets done. If we would work together out of commitment to our community, we would already have most if not all of what we want.
Things are getting better, even though in any given moment it can look like things suck but there were still “coloreds only” signs all over America 50 years ago, I remember them. Thank god we have progressed past that. The pendulum swung the other way for 30 years and now it’s coming our way. If we are smart, we won’t abuse our power like the republicans did [and the Dems did before them] and we can get loads of stuff done.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:45 pmBL
“Blago like?”
April 27th, 2009 at 12:02 amMolly Ivins didn’t call him “Govnr Good Hair”
for nothin-
What do you know. Now they have found another method to distract everyone and help the friend of the medical industry. Remember antrax and how many billions were spent and more billions wasted.
April 27th, 2009 at 6:07 amSwine flu is not new. Check it out gang. Try google if you are a novice.
What we need to look at is: how many people die daily from tobacco and tobacco related diseases? And what % of the intire health care industry is involved with tobacco and tobacco related illness/disease/etc.
Not trying to bang up smoking, only want everyone to see what the media can do when they put it in full speed ahead.
afeder Says: 84
Oh my. As abjectly stupid as you are did you really question someone else’s intelligence? Dude you are a MORON. Did you really need to add clueless on top of that?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:36 amLets deny those people the treatment they need to save them from the Swine Flu and then ban tobacco products and make it another illegal black market product to be smuggled into the country. Lets also try the ban on Alcohol again while we’re at it.
OBTW, Tobacco taxes pay for SCHIP. You do know what SCHIP is, right?
Pretty myopic post John.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:29 pmLittle jay, no one is banning cigarette or alcohol or guns! Stop listening to Rush Limpball and HandJob-ity please.
The trick in NOT to ban anything but tax the crap out of it. Stupid people will get their “vices” whether legal or not so, might as well turn the “vices” into a revenue source.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:48 pmRush Who?
Try a little sarcasm rightwing. Tax everything. That will solve the problems. Go for it.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:50 pmFor once we agree on something. Legalize everything and tax the hell out of it.
People are going to do what they are going to do.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmI am truly sorry that the swine flu has reared its ugly head again, since it was suppressed by vaccinations back about 1974. AS for Texas Governor Perry, it’s kharma or kizmit for you to beg for assistance from the feds after you so rudely decried to cecede from the union. It may be time for republicans to rethink their temper tantrum strategies and switch gears and steer a littl more towards a progressive thought process.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:31 pmAs far as I know, Texas is still in the Union. To deny them the assistance required to protect American Citizens is ludicrous. As far as temper tantrums go, the liberals have been throwing them for the past 8 years and continue to this day.
I can see the Progressive thought process on this site through the previous posts on this topic. Thanks but no thanks. Go read post # 1 through # 150 or so. Are you proud of the Progressive thought process as it is expressed on this topic and on this site, Leneeg?
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On tax day, when the tea parties were happening all across the nation, Texas Governor Rick Perry was branded a secessionist by the left because he dared question federal power grabs into state issues by supporting a resolution in his state that called for the feds to begin abiding by the 10th amendment. Now, of course, Perry doesn’t actually want to secede. But branding him a secessionist is much easier for the left than having a debate over the appropriate role of federal government and the desire for more localized government.
Now there’s a swine flu outbreak, and Governor Perry has called on the federal government to help him respond to it. This, naturally, has the same people on the left who tried to brand him as a secessionist calling him a hypocrite for turning to the federal government for help.
Which is all just obfuscation.
People who desire a return to this country’s federalist roots understand that there are some things the federal government is supposed to do and some things the federal government is not supposed to do. People such as Governor Perry (and myself, because I feel as he does on this issue) don’t want to abolish the federal government altogether. There are certain things the federal government is supposed to do. Our founding fathers recognized this too, which is why they created the federal government and tasked it with certain powers per the Constitution.
And one of the things the federal government is supposed to be involved in is responding to national emergencies. This includes international disease epidemics that cross not only state boarders but international boarders as well.
Believing that the federal government should allow states to decide issues such as gay marriage, abortion, gun control, commerce issues and the like for themselves does not necessarily mean believing that the federal government has a role in responding to an international health threat such as swine flu.
But, once again, obfuscating Perry’s position on these issues (and by extension the positions of the state’s rights movement in general) is much easier than having an honest, logical, straight-forward debate about the issue.
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