Fox News’ Sean Hannity has long been a torture enthusiast. “I want to torture them to the limit,” he once said of terrorists suspects. President Obama’s recent decision to release Bush administration memos outlining how torture was approved at the highest levels has spurred Hannity to promote torture even more wildly. “People are going to die because of what Barack Obama is doing right now. People are going to die,” he said last week, before slamming a football into his desk and declaring, “Imagine this is Khalid Shaikh Mohammed’s head. Dunk it in water so we can save American lives! You bet.”
Last Wednesday, Hannity took his torture enthusiasm to a new level. After promoting torture during his entire program, he agreed to guest Charles Grodin’s challenge to subject himself to waterboarding, volunteering to do it for charity:
GRODIN: You’re for torture.
HANNITY: I am for enhanced interrogation.
GRODIN: You don’t believe it’s torture. Have you ever been waterboarded?
HANNITY: No, but Ollie North has and talked to me about it.
GRODIN: Would you consent to be waterboarded so we can get the truth out of you? We can waterboard you?
HANNITY: Sure. … I’ll do it for charity. I’ll let you do it. … I’ll do it for the troops’ families.
The next night, MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann declared that he would give $1,000 to charity for every second Hannity withstood waterboarding. Watch it:
Despite Hannity’s affection for torture, he has not mentioned his agreement to be waterboarded since Wednesday. If he ever does “put his money where his mouth is,” as Olbermann challenged him to, he can expect to enjoy the torturous sensation of very real — and very terrifying — drowning, as Christopher Hitchens explained after subjecting himself to it:
You may have read by now the official lie about this treatment, which is that it “simulates” the feeling of drowning. This is not the case. You feel that you are drowning because you are drowning — or, rather, being drowned, albeit slowly and under controlled conditions and at the mercy (or otherwise) of those who are applying the pressure.
Hitchens’ explained that inhaling “brought the damp cloths tight against my nostrils, as if a huge, wet paw had been suddenly and annihilatingly clamped over my face.” Indeed, he was being suffocated.
How much longer will “the troops’ families” have to wait before Hannity takes Olbermann up on his generous offer and volunteer to undergo such suffocation?
Can’t a manatee breathe under water anyway?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:11 pmDid you see the look on the Manatee’s face when Grodin asked him if he’d be waterboarded?
Of course he won’t allow himself to be waterboarded.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:12 pmWhen answering Grodin, Sean no doubt had a half-a-chubby at the mere mention of torture. That changed when Olbermann asked him to man up to the offer that he made to Grodin. Then he probably peed his pants a little, and his balls sucked up into his body cavity. Hannity will never mention this again.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:15 pmHe’d really like to, but it would just be too dangerous, because he HAS NO LIPS.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:16 pmI may be a bad person but I have a teeny, secret desire that they sort of goof the process with him.
Not that Hannity will ever follow through.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:16 pmHANNITY: No, but Ollie North has and talked to me about it.
I bet that boner lasted for minutes…
April 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pmHannity is too much of a coward to do it. Haven’t you heard the silence over at Faux News?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:18 pmhaha
lose/lose scenario
If he does it. He’ll be tortured taped Live and give up in less then 5sec and shown to be a dumb ass moron that speaks out of his ass.
If he doesn’t. He’ll be shown to be a dumb ass moron that speaks out of his ass.
Why are conservatives so dumb?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:19 pmHannity won’t be able to stand behind his word. He’ll back out due to some fabricated reason he’s currently digging to find.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pmIf the Republican apologists want anyone to take their stance seriously, one of them is going to have to submit to waterboarding on national TV.
With all the crap they do show on TV, just why hasn’t anyone volunteered for a new reality show? “Do You Really Want to Waterboard your Boss?” Hot primetime ratings.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:21 pmThey’ll have to get Hannity as drunk as Hitchens always is before they will get him to submit to waterboarding.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:22 pmAs a person who lost a brother and cousin in the Iraq war I would love to see Hannity the ‘ratings whore’ get “tortured” for charity?
Hannity is a punk!!
April 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pmRush is next.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pmTo make this as realistic as possible, I think the interrogator(s) need to attempt to extract info from Mr. Hannity.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:23 pmA good start; Who feeds Fox News the propaganda they push? Rove? Cheney? The National RNC office? “Who punk, who?!” He needs to be handled rough. As if the interrogator has no concern over his well being. Just like the real thing.
That chickenhawk yellow bellied loser wouldn’t come near doing it. He is cowering over there in his bunker with Eva hoping everyone will forget his little gaff
April 27th, 2009 at 1:24 pm‘twould be a shame if Hannity actually suffocated…not.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:25 pmExcept for the last gasp 23%r’s in this country, everyone knows Hannity is for Hannity’s wealth and career – not for anyone as pedestrian as a soldier or his family. Hannity has a platform from which he continually lies to the very people who tune in to watch and listen to his rants. Why on earth would person with limited time on this earth waste one naosecond of their lives tuneing in to sopmeone who lies to them, for his own advantage? Are they that stoopid?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:26 pmWhile the idea is enticing, after consideration…
Waterboarding for charity? How sick is that?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pmFrom what the righties say, waterboarding ain’t so bad. I mean, Liz Chaney said our own soldiers go through it. So why not Sean? It sounds like a breeze. No?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:28 pmI’m retired and don’t have much discretionary cash available, but I would pay to watch it.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:29 pmHannity will wiggle out of his waterboarding for charity because he developed a cyst on his ass…
April 27th, 2009 at 1:31 pmAIO grasshopper Says:
‘twould be a shame if Hannity actually suffocated…not.
It would be ashamed if he suffocated but he would have asked for it….correct?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pmZooey@21, Isn’t that how Limbaugh got out of serving in Vietnam?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pmNow, now, fellow progressive extremists…
As much as I’d like to see Hannity waterboarded, I already know the outcome, as should you.
He’ll get up after a mere 15 seconds or so, just going through it ONCE, not 183 times, of course, wet-head and all–and proclaim it was no big thing. Hannity’s an actor, an entertainer, and this ‘event’ will have been fixed long before he ever reclines on that wooden plank.
So, no, I wouldn’t pay to see THAT Kabuki play. But he’s probably too much of a chickenhawk to do anything more than TALK about it.
I can’t wait to see what happens to him when the Revolution comes…
April 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pmHannity really stepped into it this time, can we add a few others to the list of those being waterboarded for charity ? How about cheney, bush, limbaugh, coulter. And lets have a lottery to see who gets to do the waterboarding, bet we could wipe out the National debt in a week from the proceeds.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pmNot a chance that a coward like SHeadHannity would go through with this. None.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pmOnce is not enough. Hannity should be waterboarded 186 times in order to get the full effect.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pmIt’s not really the same if you know it’s a stunt and they’ll stop any time you want them to. The troops that were trained had it done by friendlies but they couldn’t stop it any time they wanted to. For it to be authentic Seanie would have to be abducted by strangers and taken to an undisclosed located. Fox phonies up all that reality TV they should do this one for the troops.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:33 pmThe problem with punditry is that the line between seriousness and humor gets blurred to the point that there is no difference. What Olbermann sees as sincerity, Hannity will dismiss as comedy.
The one benefit that punditry has for the pundit is that they have time working for them. If a pundit says something, only for politicians and other pundits to put his or her feet to the fire, that pundit only has to wait it out. It might take a few days, but the news feed is unfortunately hard to cap, so both the challenger and defender are forced to change their focus until the next topic of controversy comes up.
So Hannity will just wait and ignore the challenge. It will be forgotten as bigger controversies come to the forefront. And Hannity will again tapdance on all of the dud landmines, knowing that they won’t explode.
One of these days one of those duds won’t be a dud.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pmI would rather see someone like KO do a segment with a tape of a SERE training session and interviews of the servicemen who have bravely volunteered to submit and their comments afterwards.
Even if Sean agrees, it would be a joke.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pmI thought Hannity WAS the cyst on Limbaugh’s ass. Oh that must have been O’Reilly.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pmP.D.,
Yep, that’s how Limpy avoided service. Although, I’ve known other men who had that type of cyst, and it didn’t keep them from serving.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:35 pmI think Hannity will go ahead and do this, but it will be a completely phony and rigged “waterboarding” that is nothing at all like the real thing. Then we will have to listen for another ten years to neocons and trolls blathering about how it isn’t really torture.
Betcha a buck.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pmAs much as I can’t stand the man, I wouldn’t want to see this done to anyone. Keith said he’d double the money if Hannity admits he’s scared. I think Hannity should have to go do some community service for the troops’ families now.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pmCoulter can’t be waterboarded, her Adam’s apple is to big for them to get close to her.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:37 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
I think Hannity will go ahead and do this, but it will be a completely phony and rigged “waterboarding” that is nothing at all like the real thing. Then we will have to listen for another ten years to neocons and trolls blathering about how it isn’t really torture.
Betcha a buck.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
It wouldn’t surprise me at all. Hannity would be “waterboarded” for at least an hour, and when the torturer begs for a break because he’s exhausted, Hannity would call him a pansy.
Hannity’s balls would grow at least two sizes — to barely visible.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:39 pmTrying to make a connection between torture or anything the bush administration has done and ’saving American lives’ has to be one of the biggest bullsh|t stories I’ve ever heard.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:39 pmHow was Grodin allowed to get hannity into this conversation ? Can Grodin get on rush and o’reilly’s show? Amazing that good conversation actually got on a Fox show.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pmSorry to say this but the families of our trooops will be waiting until Jesus comes before Sean “cowardly” Hannity undergoes waterboarding.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:41 pmThat little fat punk won’t be waterboarded because just like all teabaggers they scare easily.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:41 pmI’m sure it also makes a difference when you realize they are going to do it to you nearly every day. To really test this out, they should make Sean’s waterboarding a regular feature of his show.
Think of the ratings! I’ll tune in every night!
April 27th, 2009 at 1:43 pmI think that Olbermann needs to call out Hannity on a nightly basis until he either refuses to honor his pledge or he really does it. My bet is on his refusing to be waterboarded because above all else, Hannity is a coward.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pmIf Hannity were to actually get water-boarded, I’m sure he’d have plenty of ’safe words’ in his repertoire.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pm(if you know what I mean)
Everybody going on his show for any reason needs to bring this up. “Before I get to talking about government spending Sean, how about that waterboarding challenge? Any plans to move forward on that?”"
April 27th, 2009 at 1:44 pmLet’s not forget that InSannity also has the luxury of going home to his loved ones(?) after said event.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:45 pmAnd not to a 10X10 concrete cell, alone, not knowing when the next torture will take place.
Rally around the flag Sean, and the rest of the cowards in this country just like you, because it really is your last refuge…enjoy it for now because it won’t last much longer…
April 27th, 2009 at 1:46 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
Zooey says:
You are 100% right. The only way Sean will ’submit’ will be under very controlled circumstances where he will come out a hero. I would be willing to bet Faux is in the process of drawing up the plans right now.
And Sean is wetting his pants.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pmIt won’t be torture if fatty does it, it’s a college stunt. It will be nothing like what prisoners go through.
Still, fatty will last 1 sec before he’d cry for limpydic.
Sure the teabaggers love out troops.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pmFor anyone that has ever had a scarey water situation, even strong swimmers, to laugh at simulated drowning is inexcusable.
There are stories that KSM’s children were threatened and hurt to get him to talk. And that KSM was mentally unstable to start with. So, how accurate would any information be from this person ?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:47 pmWhen I’m all tied up and things are getting a little out of control, my safe word is “Spiro Agnew”!
But, that’s just me.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:48 pmDRxJapanese Beetle Says:
Let’s not forget that InSannity also has the luxury of going home to his loved ones(?) after said event.
And not to a 10X10 concrete cell, alone, not knowing when the next torture will take place.
Good point. In order to be a realistic simulation, he’d have to be waterboarded repeatedly for about a month or so.
Properly, he should believe he’s been forcibly kidnapped, with a sufficient cover story for why somebody would be doing it to him. Honestly, I believe that might be legal as there’s already public record of him giving prior consent.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pmHannity, like most redneck right wing cowards, is all talk.
Only cowards think America is so weak that we have to resort to torture and war to defeat terrorists.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:50 pmDRxJapanese Beetle Says:
…InSannity also has the luxury of going home to his loved ones(?)
My guess is that actually his “loved ones” hate him.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:51 pmI’m assuming that is what the (?) is for.
It will never, ever happen. Hannity will never mention it again. If someone else brings it up, he will find a way to gloss over it the way he changed the subject when Joe the Plumber mentioning he and his family were both on welfare at least twice. He’s as slick as Rick Sanctimonious, who thankfully is out of office. Perhaps Hannity remembers Christopher Hitchens, a stubborn conservative, who agreed waterboarding was torture.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:51 pmMany thanks to Charles Grodin, a proud Pa.-born liberal, for bringing this issue into the conversation at Faux and showing Hannity for the chickenhawk he is, and to Keith for keeping the subject alive.
Properly, he should believe he’s been forcibly kidnapped, with a sufficient cover story for why somebody would be doing it to him. Honestly, I believe that might be legal as there’s already public record of him giving prior consent.
Maybe scarab beetles in a three by three box? And a Doberman to keep him company?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:52 pmChris Hitchens ‘lasted’ 16 seconds. It is fascinating to watch him discuss it and what his feelings were. Hannity may last that long, but I doubt he will give an honest answer about feeling like he would die.
Hannity, if you truly support the troops vs. just using them as a prop, you would condemn this practice and all the other torture. Remember, by supporting it, you are endorsing that it is ok for any one else to do this to them. We imprisoned Japanese for doing it. We’ve signed treaties forbidding it. We need to honor them.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:53 pmYou see fatty believes the gagging will be as bad as him gagging on limydic’ dic. Matter of fact, he believe there are health benefits from waterboarding.
It’s man-made hell, idiot.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pmvery true. I once was sailing with some friends and the wind had stopped so we were jumping in and out of the water, but the wind picked up while I and my guitarist’s girlfriend were in the water and only I knew how to sail. She was further from the boat than I and she was starting to tire and struggling to stay up. I swam back to here and began pulling her back to the boat, but I was tiring myself and almost didn’t make it. not a situation I would wish to repeat.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pmJohn Cleese’s ode to Sean Hannity, presented by Keith Olbermann:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PpQUAvebbA
April 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pmtexaslady Says:
There are stories that KSM’s children were threatened and hurt to get him to talk.
His kids were tortured. In our names. By US citizens. By the leader of the “Family Values” party.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm“To make this as realistic as possible, I think the interrogator(s) need to attempt to extract info from Mr. Hannity.
A good start; Who feeds Fox News the propaganda they push? Rove? Cheney? The National RNC office? “Who punk, who?!” He needs to be handled rough. As if the interrogator has no concern over his well being. Just like the real thing.”
What needs to happen is a “reality show” based on the experience. First Sean would have to be kidnapped by some pseudo-left wing liberal group in a black van. He’d be stripped, shaved, and locked in a very cold cell for a few days while listening to some very loud foreign language religious tunes. Every time sleep looking apparent he’d be put into stress positions. Oh yeah…plenty of verbal humiliation and maybe a dog or two. After a few days of this we could see him questioned. No answer being sufficient we could then see him locked in a small box festering with insects. Ect…ect…
And for the finally he would be waterboarded. (Much closer to reality mr hannity)
(sarc off)
April 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm“No, but Ollie North has and talked to me about it.”
Was that before or after the reach-around.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pmHannity’s usual safe word is “more, more”, but I doubt that he’ll use that on the water-board.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pmHEADS UP TP ADMINS:
I volunteer to be water boarded. Not for the money, but to show how much of a coward Sean Hannity is. I will be water boarded on national TV to prove to people who may still be undecided on whether or not this is torture.
I am totally serious. Email me @ dnc1791@gmail.com
Sincerely,
April 27th, 2009 at 1:56 pmCitizen_pain
I will be water boarded on national TV to prove to people who may still be undecided that this is torture….
Corrected
April 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pmWow. 65 posts and not a single troll.
On an Olbermann thread.
That’s gotta be some kinda record.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:02 pm@66…could it possibly be the trolls have been vanquished? Say it isn’t so!
April 27th, 2009 at 2:04 pmWhat I’m really concerned about is the mentality like InSannity’s and our trolls, who believe that when we do it, it’s appropriate and mandatory for our national security, but if it was done (and it has been) to our brave men and women serving, it’s torture.
Example:
What if, Jessica Lynch, instead of being a prop for a “staged” raid and rescue, was actually filmed being water boarder by Iraqi soldiers for viable information.
Can you imagine the outrage (and justifiably so) of those on the right?
Trust me, this nonsense of “is water boarding torture?” wouldn’t even be questioned.
And what’s worse, is the green light that’s been given to our “enemy combatants”, or other countries.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm(What? Well if the United States of America can torture, ignoring the Geneva Convention law which they signed, why can’t we???)
They are all hiding in their basements from the swine flu bug
April 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pmCan I get b*llsh*t for 1000, Alex? Sean Hannity is just a mouth piece, he does not beleive half the things he says. If he does volunteer to be waterboarded, he should have Keith Olbermann do it.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:09 pmThe interesting question would be how much waterboarding it would take to make Hannity sign a statement saying he was behind 9/11.
Actually, we could get him to confess to a lot of things.
Anybody have any suggestions?
I’ll start:
1) Olbermann rulez my world, he’s all over my TiVo at home.
2) It was me who shot Scarborough’s assistant. Joe paid me in beer.
3) I don’t believe anything I say, I’m just trying to leech money from crazy people by supporting their delusions.
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citizen_pain Says:
HEADS UP TP ADMINS:
I volunteer to be water boarded.
Not nearly as much fun.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:11 pmIt’s all well and good for these people to volunteer to be water boarded but unless they go through the exact conditions that those it was used on to interrogate- not having a safe word or knowing if the those administering it will actually stop- then TBH it’s not a fair experiment.
One could say that the safe signal would equal the willingness to talk, so perhaps they should water board Hannity until he admits he lies/makes things up, is a hypocrite and is a homosexual (I put the homosexual one in as a test to see if they could extract false information, just as a reliability test you understand.)
April 27th, 2009 at 2:11 pmThe last thing I remember my brother telling me was that, “he didn’t want to go fight in Bush’s personal war, but I’m obligated to protect my family and my country, I love you.”
And those were his last words and me and my family never saw him after that.
I gotta stop… I’m sitting here in tears now…. I miss him sooooo much that’s why I get real angry with people like Hannity, and the O’Reilly’s and Beck’s et al who joke about “torture.” And the disrespect Bush had in not attending any soldiers funerals.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pmSeeny will send a tape of himself surfing to Olbermann along with a return envelope for the check. Yes, I’m sure he’s that much of an idiot.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pmVaranus komodoensis,
I’m so sorry, VK. My heart goes out to you and your family. I can’t even imagine your pain.
((hugs))
April 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pmElBruce says:
1) Olbermann rulez my world, he’s all over my TiVo at home.
2) It was me who shot Scarborough’s assistant. Joe paid me in beer.
3) I don’t believe anything I say, I’m just trying to leech money from crazy people by supporting their delusions.
This would require torture?
April 27th, 2009 at 2:33 pmBobwurst # 60 – Can you direct me to the information regarding KSM’s children ? Can’t remember where I read that nasty piece of work. I believe the torture involved his little boy.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pmBuckarooBanzai Says:
Hannity, if you truly support the troops vs. just using them as a prop, you would condemn this practice and all the other torture. Remember, by supporting it, you are endorsing that it is ok for any one else to do this to them. We imprisoned Japanese for doing it. We’ve signed treaties forbidding it. We need to honor them.
I would really love to see someone ask Hannity what he would feel if his son or daughter was tortured by Iran. Would he think that was OK? If not, he would need to explain how our torture is different.
His answer would probably be “it’s different because my son or daughter isn’t a terrorist”.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:37 pmNo, it is very difficult to completely do away with primitive organisms. They can continue to function with only one remaining brain cell.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:38 pmtexaslady Says:
Bobwurst # 60 – Can you direct me to the information regarding KSM’s children ? Can’t remember where I read that nasty piece of work. I believe the torture involved his little boy.
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/41812
April 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pmVK – For all of us who have lost idealistic family members who really thought they were protecting America hearing anything from the despicable bunch parroting bush/cheney’s lies is continual pain.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:45 pmThere is so much to atone for from all of them, the lies, the torture, and Afganistan which will take more American lives because bush wanted to go into Iraq and wouldn’t let the military take Osama when they could have.
I cannot stand to even hear these dung heaps talk.
BHB – thank you…
April 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pmDoes anyone know if Hannity has even responded to Keith’s challenge??
*
April 27th, 2009 at 2:49 pmLiz, stop joking around.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pmHannity has been working on the gag reflex all his life just for this minute.
Hard work, but he is devoted, and those dicks aren’t going to suck themselves.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:56 pmWhat is a Hannity?
April 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pmA coward,
an asswipe,
who condems big gov’t, then says the gov’t s/be allow to torture in our names….
to saves us all!!!! What Bullshit…
Freedom isn’t free…of hardships and death…we have values here in America that many have fought and died for…we don’t torture…to keep us safe…
we can keep our values and deal with those who have or want to do us harm, without stooping to their level…
Stop following cowards who don’t have the backbone to keep our constitution and our values in tact…
Spit on Sean, Bill-o, Brit, Rush..et al….it’s all smoke and mirrors..
As much as I would love to see this (under real conditions), as a Vietnam vet and a believer in the Geneva Convention, I can not condone using torture for ANY purpose.
(Whew, that was hard to write, as I was fantasizing on Hannitee-hee’s legs kicking, gurgling sounds, ….. STOP that!)
April 27th, 2009 at 3:05 pmWhat is the going rate for waterboarding per second? Is there some magic number that will be high enough to get the Reichwingnuts to admit torture is against the law and is immoral?
April 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pmDo you commit a lot of crimes yourself, or do you just support criminal activities?
April 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pmHannity should subject himself to the waterboarding.
But, Grodin, Olbermann and the left, in general, are taking some risk in supporting this idea.
Because, it only works, if Hannity won’t do it. (Which is likely).
If Hannity can’t do it, it will obviously be chalked up to insurance problems with Fox. Which would be plausible.
If however, Hannity could and would undergo waterboarding, I think it could backfire significantly on Olbermann and the left.
First, Hannity could last as long as a minute or longer. Possible. One minute would be $60,000, not insignificant for a charitable cause. Thirty seconds would be $30,000. Still not bad. More if he could last longer.
Regardless of how long Hannity would last, he would never admit that it was torture. He would say it’s uncomfortable and caused anxiety. But, he would not admit that it’s torture.
And when anyone questions how little time he was able to last, he will only say that it reconfirms his position – it works.
I personally think waterboarding is torture. And I don’t think Hannity will ever agree to it. But, if I were Olbermann and Grodin, I would be hoping that Hannity wouldn’t take the offer. If Hannity agrees to undergo the waterboarding, there would be little downside for him and his position.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pmSomeone else said it first. But they were right. Keith ought to call Hannity on it every night till he does it.
Even though my SSI and the rest has been cut. I swear to you that I would find money enough to pay to see it. Actually Keith could pay more. It is not as though Sean would last long enough to cause a great pay out. And even so, it is for charity. And the laughs could continue for years. That alone is worth a coin or two. Besides, Keith could take it off taxes for charity.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pmBelieve it or not, I would not even want to see a Republican criminal like you tortured. I think psychotherapy would be more effective in teaching you the concept of illegality.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pmConservativeForRegress,
April 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmWhy do you support the torture of our soldiers?
I agree with you. Sean Hannity is a professional liar. That is why he should be waterboarded twice. It would quite the theatre to watch him run, screaming into the night when they came after him for session #2.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmHow ironic that CFP would worry more about a baby in utero than an adult. The Reichwingnut stand on abortion does not make up for the blantant disregard of human rights.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmHannity should go for sleep deprivation and waterboarding if he wants to prove how both don’t cross the line.
I’m sure the lord Jebus would protect him! *snicker*
If Jerry Lewis can do 24 hours every year for charity, Inanity should do 36 for everyone whom he supports, but inevitably throws under the bus.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pmIt is only being debated by criminal Republicans. Japanese soldiers were executed after WWII for waterboarding Americans. The United States is a signatory to the Geneva Convention, which mus be upheld according to the Constitution of the United States.
The Republican Party is now an official criminal enterprize. Congratulations.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pmDr. Matt, it looks like your use of the phrase “some of my best friends are black” drew Tracist into the argument.
Hey Tracist, did you ever figure out which of your best friends is black, since you don’t see color?
April 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pmCFP, what if Hannitea last all of 60 seconds. Isnt that real money? Well maybe not to you but to me it is. Doesnt Hannitea have a web site? Why not just go there and tell him that he is such a strong and powerful man(?) that it should be no problem for him to do this as it is no big deal? LOL yeah that a$$ is so brave.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pmHilarious Dr. Matt! The exact moment you used the “my best friends are black” analogy, Tracist__5 posts!
April 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pmSeriously, you can’t script that any better!
Priceless!
Tracist__5:
April 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pmBigot.
Fraud.
Hater of women.
And now we can add,
LIAR
We added LIAR to the list of Tracists attributes long ago.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pmExcept for the awkward fact that the United States tried and convicted Japanese soldiers of committing the crime of torture for waterboarding US personnel after WW2.
So it seems the “debate” has already been decided. The only people who want to “debate” whether waterboarding is torture are those who have exposed butts to cover and their apologists.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:31 pmIndeed, shoeless. Dr. Matt seems to have stumbled upon the magic phrase that invokes the dark spirit of Tracist_5.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:34 pmDidn’t he say something about 15 seconds? I can hold my breath for 15 seconds. That wouldn’t even require one to feel the effects. These guys like to tell others to “man up,” but when it comes to their turn, they turn into the world’s most indignant victims. Soon Hannity will be accusing Olbermann of wanting to torture him (while continuing to deny that waterboarding is torture).
April 27th, 2009 at 3:34 pmTracist thinks he’s the first racist to use that phrase.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:35 pmTrue shoeless, but what I want to know is, why does Tracist__5 not recognize those special children from Alaska?
April 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pmDoes Tracist__5 hate people with handicaps also?
Apparently. He is an architect who builds leaky, dangerous medical centers, using substandard materials, and unskilled labor.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:39 pmHannity is a bedwetting, America-hating coward who is incapable of backing up his chickenhawk strutting and posturing.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:40 pmNot according to my display.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:45 pmYou’ve got to admire the trolls, in a weird way.
Here we have Hannity shooting off his big mouth, and volunteering to be waterboarded. Olbermann calls on him on it, offers to donate to charity if Hannity follows through, and the trolls try to make it into Olbermann’s fault that Hannity won’t do it because he’s not offering enough incentive.
If life hands a troll lemons, he’ll try to make lemonade. After the troll has spilled lemon juice all over his school clothes, he’s still gonna want lemonade, so he’ll make it out of his own urine.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:50 pmI see. It’s a case of “Who you gonna believe? Me or your own lyin’ eyes?”
Got it, Tracist. Thanks.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:51 pm101. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
HANNITY: No, but Ollie North has and talked to me about it.
This is analogous to “some of my best friends are black” and “I have several friends who are serving in Iraq”.
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102. Tracy__5 Says:
“A measly $1,000 a second for something that usually lasts about 10 – 15 seconds isn’t putting your money where your mouth is, Olberman.”
That’s about all he can afford….but at least he would be actually giving to charity for once.
WTF are you spooging about, Tracist???
April 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pmTracist, you are the one who told me you fired the union workers, hired unskilled labor, then blamed the leaks in the building on the union workers.
When you lie constsntly, it becomes impossible to keep your lies straight.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pmActually it is time for a National Lottery @ $5/Ticket the winner gets to waterboard Hannity!!! All money goes to American families of Iraq war casualties. How can Hannity say no? There would of course be strict rules the waterboarding would be supervised by a doctor and would not last more than 45 minutes. Televised, ad sold etc etc. I’m sure Fox would pay millions for the opportunity to televise such an incredible event.
April 27th, 2009 at 3:53 pmI’m with anyone else on this one. I’m not rich like Keith, so I’ll put up a $5 for each second (recession, sorry) Sean lasts. Then give it to HIS charity of choice, heck, I’d give it to FNC.
And just like Keith, if he admits he feared for his life, I’ll double it. Anyone with me???
April 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pmI was considering responding to Tracy__5, but then I discovered he isn’t actually making any points.
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
A measly $1,000 a second for something that usually lasts about 10 – 15 seconds isn’t putting your money where your mouth is, Olberman. If you really care about the charity, make a real offer.
If Hannity wants it to cost Olbermann more, he can do it for longer than that. A lot of us are also willing to chip in, and we can make it add up.
But if waterboarding isn’t torture, then he should be willing to do it for chump change. After all, what’s “a little dunking” worth? Not much, according to Hannity. If it has to cost a lot before you’ll entertain the idea, then you’re admitting it’s torture by default.
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
Do any of you ever worry about the torture of innocent babies in utero…
There’s no such thing as a “baby” in utero. Also, not relevant… unless you’re going to now try to argue that waterboarding is OK because humans breathe fluid in utero?
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Levi the Dungbeetle Says:
Is there some magic number that will be high enough to get the Reichwingnuts to admit torture is against the law and is immoral?
Yes: it’s whatever the Bush adminstration did + 1.
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backup Says:
If however, Hannity could and would undergo waterboarding, I think it could backfire significantly on Olbermann and the left.
Not at all. All we have to do is detain and waterboard him until he admits that Olbermann is right about everything. Thus, either torture elicits false confessions, or Hannity secretly believes that Olbermann is right about everything. I’m good with either conclusion.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:02 pmd’errr, ollie north has and i talked to him about it. now, sean was that before,after, or during the iran/contra scandal ollie north was waterboarded? hardly a reputable source that.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm“Tracy__5 Says:
“Proof?”
“$1000 per minute? That’s it?”
that’s rather generous twaaacie considering you’d eat a steming turd out of hannit’s ass for free.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pmWhen is Kieth O going to get a life?
April 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pmjeff2001 Says:
“When is Kieth O going to get a life?”
when the pussyboys over at fixed news pony up and put their money when their mouths are?
April 27th, 2009 at 4:09 pmTime stamp reads 3:22 for both comment #101 (Dr. Matt’s) and # 102 (yours).
Then this comment posted:
Then you responded:
Now you’re trying to claim the time stamp proves your comment 102 was before number 101.
At best it proves the “exact moment” comment that you disputed was correct.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pmcurious Says:
“Someone else said it first. But they were right. Keith ought to call Hannity on it every night till he does it.”
Great idea. He could end each of his shows with that instead of the “Mission Accomplished” one he does at the end.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmKeith Olberman doesn’t have a life? Perhaps you could provide some proof of that. I suspect he makes a hell of a lot more money than you do, he is better known than you are, better educated than you are, and knows more influential people than you do.
My guess is that Keith Olberman has more of a life than you do, and probably more of a life than anyone you know. But if a Reichwingnut says he should get a life, I guess he should. (/snark)
April 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmYet another wingnut trying to make it Olbermann’s fault that Hannity’s mouth writes checks his butt can’t cash.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmOh boy, now the Reichwingnuts are going to trot out how great Fox News’ ratings are that has been debunked as often as George Bush lied.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pmOur Dearest ConservativeForProgress troll:
@ 87, 89
Please look up “Common Sense” on the internet or a dictionary. Your false god Handjob-ity walked right into a challenge and that shows his stupidity as well as yours for defending him which is what I “think” you’re trying to do.
Quit bringing the aborting babies card into the subject because it’s WEAK just like you. The attempted subject change only fools conservatives like you.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pmnotice how at the 2:08 mark pussyboy hannity’s voice broke like a little beyotch when asked if he’d been waterboarded.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pmjeff2001 Says:
When is Kieth O going to get a life?
Stones. Glass houses.
If you are going to criticize a pundit for bringing the hypocrisy of another pundit into question, you are going to have to do it to all pundits. Olbermann’s work involves pretty much the same sort of work done by O’Reilly, Hannity, Maddow, Limbaugh, Beck…heck, even the likes of the late-night talk show hosts.
I wouldn’t be surprised, jeff, if you were just like some of us here and wished you had Keith’s job. His life is decent compared to some of them out there.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pmI thought liberals hated waterboarding. O, thats right you hate waterboarding terrorists. Can i still call them terrorists? Hannity ,who i don’t like. His ratings will keep going up as long as PMSNBC keep talking about him.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pmahhhh jeff, the subtle irony of the situation would be lost on a bootlicker such as yourself.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pmtry using “the google” and type in “eating crow” then get back to the adults.
jeff2001 Says:
I thought liberals hated waterboarding. O, thats right you hate waterboarding terrorists. Can i still call them terrorists? Hannity ,who i don’t like. His ratings will keep going up as long as PMSNBC keep talking about him.
Well, this liberal hates waterboarding, period, but those that have been waterboarded never asked to be waterboarded, and I protest any sort of torture, regardless of the person subjected to it. If people captured Hannity and threatened to waterboard him against his will, I would protest for that too.
But what are we to do if Hannity tells us he wants to be waterboarded? Are we to say no? If Hannity wants to treat torture as something comical, who are we to deny him what he wants?
April 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pmRepublicans hate fact, you sure got alot of hate.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pmWow! Tracist has brought the average IQ of America down a couple notches I see.
Dear Tracist,
April 27th, 2009 at 4:30 pmYour existence and the existence of those you follow ever so blindly is the exact reason why the 9/11 tragedy occurred. You are ignorant. Look up ignorant and study the definition – that’s you. Report back when you fix that problem so we can have an intelligent conversation about this subject posted here.
You’re not very bright, are you, Tracist?
The joke was that Matt’s use of the phrase “Some of my best friends are black” magically summoned you to the thread.
You disputed the observation that your comment appeared at the “exact moment” of Dr. Matt’s. Then you cite the time stamp as evidence, even though the time stamp shows the original comment to be correct.
Sheesh.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pmThere are a lot of people that have good reason to hate Republicans.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:33 pmWould everyone take a breath!
April 27th, 2009 at 4:33 pmTorture, specifically waterboarding, is illegal, period.
And regarding Hannity–he’s not just going to be able to see how long he can hold his breath, he would be required to sign a document confessing to certain terms, otherwise the waterboarding would CONTINUE!
To be a ligitimate test, they are not going to just do it till he says “uncle!”
It’s like in the old days when they “beat” a confession out of you! In a real test, Sean doesn’t get to say what he believe’s or doesn’t believe–He say’s what the INTEROGATORS FORCE HIM TO SAY!
Was that so hard!
The reason KSM was waterboarded 183 times was that they were trying to get him to “confess” that Al Queda had close ties to Saddam Hussien and Iraq. The only problem was that they didn’t. I suspect that KSM “confessed” that there was a connection about 3-4 waterboarding’s into it, but, they kept fishing for “extra” info that would please VP Cheney and HIS Administration.
Tracy, your story changes constantly. That is how we all know you are a liar.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pmThere way too many dumbasses like you, who prop up the ratings of professional propagandists.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pmjeff, try to focus. We hate hypocritical cowardly pussies, who advocate for war crimes, while preening and posturing as tough guys.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pmKeith should start a fund to collect pledges from his viewers. I’m in for $1.00 a second. Anyone else?
April 27th, 2009 at 4:52 pmYes, and I remember, you blamed the union workers, whom you fired, for your deficiencies. What a jackass. Iwish one of those union guys would catch you alone and beat the snot out you for that.
April 27th, 2009 at 4:52 pmWhat’s this contractor/architect/builder nonsense people keep babbling about? Does it have something to do with the topic? Can somebody either explain why they’re talking abut construction jobs, or drop it? Thanks.
Ditto timestamps.
Tracy__5, if you don’t have anything to say about the topic of this thread, don’t post. If you want to just talk about yourself, start your own damn blog. I’ll be the first to not read it.
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Levi the Dungbeetle Says:
Oh boy, now the Reichwingnuts are going to trot out how great Fox News’ ratings are that has been debunked as often as George Bush lied.
Even if it were true, it’s not relevant. But they continue to litter threads with it.
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jeff2001 Says:
I thought liberals hated waterboarding.
If someone doesn’t mind undergoing it willingly, then I don’t have a problem with letting them.
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jeff2001 Says:
O, thats right you hate waterboarding terrorists. Can i still call them terrorists?
Once there’s a jury conviction, sure. But wer’e not taking Bush/Cheney’s word for it. For some reason, we find their “word” to be somewhat unreliable.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pmSo, there’s a mild flame war going on and all, but I’d like to chime in a bit on the act itself.
Water boarding has been prosecuted by us in the past as torture and a war crime. Them’s just the facts so there’s no “well we just need to really define torture first”…it’s defined already. Oh, and it’s completely illegal under all circumstances, always. There can really be no dispute (assuming you choose to use facts) that we tortured prisoners and that doing so, and ordering others to do so, is a crime that has a precedent set of 15 years hard labor up to and including death by hanging as its penalty. So, you conservative loyalists, feel free to explain to me why we shouldn’t even consider investigating, let alone prosecuting, criminals? And before you say anything about partisan retribution – the investigation can include anyone and everyone regardless of the big D or R as long as there is probable cause to investigate their involvement.
Second, assuming Ollie North really did tell him about a real water boarding experience then it was probably something along the lines of what an old coworker of mine told me when he was water boarded as part of his Special Forces training which was thus, “Even though the situation was completely controlled and for demonstration purposes, I was absolutely certain that I was going to die and that was 9 seconds after they started.” Because, you see, part of the practice is not letting you take a nice deep breath to hold. Interrogators will wait for you to exhale…you have a cloth over your face so you have no idea when it will begin. You want to just hold your breath to prolong the anxiety? Have at it; it only makes it worse when you invariably have to let it out and gasp for air, which in this case will actually be water.
In a similar vein, having had a near-drowning experience myself it’s more terrifying that you could possibly imagine. I’m convinced that no amount of mental prep could keep one calm through that. I just happened to be river rafting at the time, but as surely as I type this today I’d have told you anything you wanted to hear if I could just get some air into my lungs.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:09 pmI guess I’ll also add to this whole Hannity pseudo-story that if he does it then there had to be a condition on other than “tapping out” to end the torture, otherwise it’s missing the point of what water boarding is all about isn’t it?
The condition should be a false confession of some kind (or hell, just admit the truth – make him sign a document declaring water boarding is torture). Then drown him until he signs. He’ll have lived up to his word and actually gone through water boarding. There is no way that could backfire. He could last an hour, but he will eventually sign whatever you put in front of him which is exactly the point of the exercise.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:27 pmblech – ninja edit: “I guess I’ll also add to this whole Hannity pseudo-story that if he does it then there had to be a condition on other than “tapping out”"
should read
I guess I’ll also add to this whole Hannity pseudo-story. If he does it then there has to be a condition on stopping other than “tapping out”"
Apologies to the moderators for triple posting.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:28 pm“Tough Guy”????? you must not read alot of posts on here.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:29 pmHannity waterboarded? I’d pay money to see that!
April 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pmHannity should only be waterboarded if he is captured. He and Glenn Beck must seize the time and lead their army of Tea Baggers to show the world they are not just cowardly hot air ballons. They should go into Somalia because their is no goverment to stop them and with only hand guns “to show the impotance of the N R A” stop all the piracy. They could then head to Mexico and wherever else they have a complaint. They would show once in for all “America LOVE IT or watch fox”
April 27th, 2009 at 5:54 pmMake a pledge today:
waterboardhannityforcharity.com
April 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pmHannity, like ALL the other Chicken Shit Chicken Hawks, quick to dismiss water boarding et al as ‘frat house rough housing’ will NEVER submit to water boarding even for $1000/sec to benefit the military families. 2X or $2000/sec IF he admits what it REALLY is (torture) after being subjected to this ‘rough housing’)
Therefore, it can be deduced that Hannity HATES OUR TROOPS AND THEIR FAMILIES so much that he won’t even undergo a little ‘rough housing’ to benefit the troops and their families.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:06 pmI e-mailed Hannity at his radio site and also at Fox, asking when this might happen, reminding him it’s “for the troops.”
I have yet to get a response from him but I really don’t expect one from the chickenshit.
I also thanked him for his father’s service to the country but had to ask him what branch he served in. I don’t think he served at all but I also don’t think most of the other right-wing jerks (O’Reilly, Cheney, etc.) did either.
I’m a 21 year air force vet myself.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:10 pmThanks for your service, shawn59.
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April 27th, 2009 at 7:53 pmmy bad
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April 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pmWatching Olbermann now – Hannity still has not responded to the challenge! Seany is a bald face LIAR! Punk a$$ed MF.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pmJoin the Facebook group dedicated to getting Hannity to keep his word:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=104737816232
April 27th, 2009 at 8:55 pmwhoaaa
SERE trainer on KO’s Countdown is volunteering to water board Hannity (for the troops/familys) AND says: (even under the controlled conditions where this chickenhawk piece of shit Hannity KNOWs he doesn’t REALLY have to fear for his life) that;
i’ve pledged $10/sec for some of that ‘action’ – do sign up too, for the troops/families you know.
waterboardhannityforcharity.com
April 27th, 2009 at 9:34 pmI’m just surprised that there hasn’t been more made of this… Hannity made himself a target and we’re totally missing taking the shot…
April 28th, 2009 at 12:04 amm1780 Says:
They should go into Somalia because their is no goverment to stop them and with only hand guns “to show the impotance of the N R A” stop all the piracy.
Interesting. I was actually thinking that we could send Blackwater (or whatever it’s calling itself) to Somalia as well. Mercenaries vs. pirates is way better than mercenaries vs. the Iraqi populace.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:15 amSHannity is just a typical Repuglicon loud-mouth. Take away their guns and place them in situations where they have to stand their ground and these whimpering little lulus would wet themselves. SHannity should be rendition to some black site where he could be water-boarded until the Repug mentality, otherwise know as demonic possession, is driven out of his pin-head.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:46 amBozo The Neocootiebug Says:
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notice how at the 2:08 mark pussyboy hannity’s voice broke like a little beyotch when asked if he’d been waterboarded.
i caught that bozo – i think at that point hannity just realised exactly what he had potentially gotten himself into.
April 28th, 2009 at 9:25 amas much as i regard hannity as no more than a parroting republican shitheel,i think this dare is a bad idea – i can understand olbermann calling him out on this but what is most disturbing to me is hannity’s willingness to turn this torturous practice into some kind of circus obviously for self gain – he says he will do it for the troops? – what on earth will they gain from this clown performing a dangerous publicity stunt (which may well kill him)? – worst case scenario,and probably more than likely,is that he will be terrified and will absolutely fear for his life – reason is that he really has no idea at all – he seriously believes that this practice is the right thing to do and that it is not torture – he is delusional,no doubt – interesting that he didn’t mention exactly what ollie north said about waterboarding after he “spoke to him about it” (at that point his voice did quiver a bit….hmmmm – coincidence?)
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