Santorum: Reconciliation ‘Has Never Been Done Before’ — Except For When I Used It
Santorum: Reconciliation ‘Has Never Been Done Before’ — Except For When I Used It
Last week, the White House increased the pressure to pass President Obama’s budget proposal this week by keeping the reconciliation language in place that would allow the budget — and the essential health care reforms it includes — to pass with 51 rather than 60 Senate votes.
Adding his voice to the conservative hysteria over the use of reconciliation, former senator Rick Santorum declared today that such a move would “short-circuit the process” and “has never been done before”:
SANTORUM: What the Democrats have done is to try to short-circuit the process on a major piece of legislation. This has never been done before. We have never seen a major, long-term, policy prescription, whether it’s Medicare, or go back throughout history and look at all the major pieces of legislation, none of them have ever been passed using this procedure. … This is truly an abomination.
Listen to it:
Of course, reconciliation has been used nearly 20 times since 1980, when it was first created. The New Republic notes that using reconciliation to pass health care reform fits into the historical pattern. “Whether reducing or increasing deficits, many of the reconciliation bills made major changes in policy. Health insurance portability (COBRA), nursing home standards, expanded Medicaid eligibility, increases in the earned income tax credit, welfare reform, the state Children’s Health Insurance Program, major tax cuts and student aid reform were all enacted under reconciliation procedures.”
Indeed, Santorum himself was the Senate Republicans’ point man in trying to push welfare reform through budget reconciliation in 1995, including it in a budget then-President Clinton opposed, as the Washington Post reported on Nov. 11, 1995:
But the welfare measures will be part of the overall reconciliation bill that Clinton has said he will veto.
Welfare reform may become a free-standing bill to be passed separately from the reconciliation measure. “This is a bill the president has absolutely no reason not to sign,” said Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), who acted as an intermediary in negotiations between the House and Senate on welfare.
Arguing that budget reconciliation is the key to enacting meaningful health care reform, the Wonk Room’s Igor Volsky wrote, “14,000 Americans are losing their health care coverage every single day and, instead of seriously considering the President’s proposal, Republicans are busy painting health care reform in red.”
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Do Republicans Ever tell the truth or is it that they just don’t know how to tell the truth?? Such BS from good ole Ricky boy.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:26 pmThe Rethuglicans are just bald faced LIARS! It’s like they just don’t think anyone is paying attention to what they say and do. I guess they’ve been getting away with the lying for so long that they can’t seem to stop. What’s the word? Pathological. It’s a sickness I tell ya – like the disease of ‘deh stupit’!
April 27th, 2009 at 8:30 pmA Republican who prevaricates. Isn’t that standard operating procedure for the GOP?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pmOf course Santorum is a liar and a hypocrite. Obama wouldn’t even need to consider doing it if the Republicans weren’t in total obstructionist mode. Bush used the process to pass two of his budgets. Where was the Republican outrage then?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:34 pmProud Says:
Why not cover something important, like Bama’s major screw up today. But of course not you are only interested in bashing everything Republican.
http://www.nypost.com/ seven/ 04272009/ news/ regionalnews/ obama_plane_photo_op_startles_new_yorker_166470.htm
http://www.nydailynews.com/ ny_local/ 2009/ 04/ 27/ 2009-04-27_plane_stupid_mayor_bloomberg_outraged_over_military_photoop_involving_lowflyin
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it’s going to be a sunny day tomorrow
pwoud but don’t be afraid.
it’s only your shadow.
:)
April 27th, 2009 at 8:36 pmOh look, another lying Republican….
April 27th, 2009 at 8:38 pmYawn.
Proud Says:
Why not cover something important, like Bama’s major screw up today. But of course not you are only interested in bashing everything Republican.
Of course something that President Obama didn’t know anything aobut was “Obama’s major screw up”. Nice try idiot, but you don’t get the cigar.
BTW, no where in either of your linked articles does it say that Obama knew this was going to happen. He was gracious enough to apologize to NY for something that he had nothing to do with. Who should have apologized is the FAA and whatever idiot dreamed up the photo shoot.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pmProud:
That’s President Obama to you.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pmYou’re always full of useless information. The fact remains your Party is the Grand Old Party of Stupid Liars – always obstructing President Obama. Santorem and the rest of the GOP are about to be thrown under the bus. Step back and watch our President work.
It must be pitiful to be a republiscum today. How could anyone in their right mind be proud of the criminals that were the Bush administration.?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:40 pmI don’t care what the “man on dog” EX Senator has to say. This a$$hole is a sick phuck.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:41 pmSince the republicans have nothing to say with the exception of “NO” to each and every Bill wanted passed, and made certain that each R in the House, as well as the Senate, were in total unison and agreement AGAINST prior to voting on that issue, I’d have to say that reconciliation is probably the only way Obama will be able to get his healthcare bill passed.
The republicans don’t even care to DISCUSS the actual matter in order to learn the details, and even if Obama made concessions to please the R’s, they would still esvote NO. Their plan is for Obama to fail [on all levels] so they can then say, “See, we told you that Obama was NOT presidential material and he was unable to acccomplish anything significant
except SPEND AND BORROW.”
I say they asked for what they are getting from the Dems, so let thenm to show their a@@es to the public and see what transpires from there. Hopefully the R’s will realize that they need to leave politics and start their own teevee CULTIST RELIGION since it appears
April 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pmonly religious issues are their primary concern. Palin and Bachmann can be the leader witches and spout their crap to the rest of their House and Senate wingnuts.
Proud Says:
Why not cover something important, like Bama’s major screw up today.
Zoiks! Better check that out:
Yep, that was pretty stupid. If they felt the need to do that for whatever reason, they should have widely publicized it first so people didn’t freak out.
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Proud Says:
But of course not you are only interested in bashing everything Republican.
Duh. You’d think a bright bulb like yourself would have noticed that pattern before now. But go ahead and give yourself a gold star anyway.
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AmericasBack Says:
Ya know, I really don’t about this. I know that what we are trying to pass is good – and the republicrime family is truly and evil entity – but I do remember when the evil do’ers where in power. They tried to use the ‘nuclear’ option …and I was pretty pissed. …but then again – it’s for the good of the PEOPLE of this country (and finally not Corporate America)
The thing is, I went through being pissed about it, and they did it anyways, and I was forced to deal with it. If they had backed off then, I’d be inclined to support backing off now.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pmProud, you didn’t answer a question I had for you. How do you square yourself with using the word “messiah” in referencing your President?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:44 pmRepublicans believe lying is OK if they do it. Republicans believe torture is OK if they do it. Republicans believe murder by torture [stay tuned] is OK if they do it. Bald face lying is the least of their worries.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:45 pmWithout any mea culpa from the republicans they will remain the minority.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:45 pmMadasHelinVA Says:
Since the republicans have nothing to say with the exception of “NO” to each and every Bill wanted passed, and made certain that each R in the House, as well as the Senate, were in total unison and agreement AGAINST prior to voting on that issue, I’d have to say that reconciliation is probably the only way Obama will be able to get his healthcare bill passed.
This is a good point. It’s not like the R’s have shown any good-faith in providing any votes for any consideration, as we saw with the stimulus bill. Even though a number of line-items that they had publicly complained about were removed, they still intentionally organized to deliver zero votes in the House, and then patted themselves on the back for it.
Why would we deal with them when they categorically refuse to be dealt with?
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MadasHelinVA Says:
The republicans don’t even care to DISCUSS the actual matter in order to learn the details…
I would be very interested to hear the details of the G.O.P’s answer to America’s current health care crisis.
^^ Couldn’t type that without laughing.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pmhellinabucket Says:
Proud, you didn’t answer a question I had for you. How do you square yourself with using the word “messiah” in referencing your President?
Apparently, Proud is a Pharisee.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:50 pmProud Says:
Why not cover something important, like Bama’s major screw up today.
Zoiks! Better check that out:
Two fighter jets escorted a low-flying Boeing 747 over lower Manhattan on Monday as part of a federal government photo opportunity.
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Do you even bother to read the crap you post links to BEFORE you post them?
4th paragraph in:
The NYPD and the city were notified of the planned flight, but did not share that information with Mayor Bloomberg and other New Yorkers, many of whom said they were terrified.
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Just out of curiosity, if they told the NYPD and the NYPD DIDN’T pass the info along, why is this personally the President’s fault?
You come across as an angry, irrational, self-pitying person who just can’t come to grips w/ the horrific beating the GOOP took in the November elections.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:52 pmGood one ElBruce. I’ve got to go now.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pmSantorum wearing a pink tie with a powder blue suit:
http://blog.pennlive.com/pennsyltucky/2008/02/santorum22108.jpg
C.L.O.S.E.T.E.D. Case closed.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pmSlick Rick got his start criticizing his predecessor in Congress for buying his main residence in suburban DC and claiming the other guy no longer lived in the Pittsburgh area. Once elected, Ricky did the same thing as his predecessor. Now he’s criticizing Democrats for doing what he did while in office. Nice reverse twist on the old hypocrisy. It took them awhile to realize his true nature, but thank goodness Pennsylvanians finally woke up and voted this lying, hypocritical, conservative laughingstock out of office.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:55 pmSen. Susan Collins supported Santorum in his 2006 run:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09nF39O5Q80Ob/610x.jpg
And how’d that turn out Suzie? Oh that’s right! Not good. Everything you touch turns to ash.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:56 pmOur trollish friend Prod is evidence enough of that.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:02 pmThe NYPD and the city were notified of the planned flight, but did not share that information with Mayor Bloomberg
Obama was not on the plane Proud….
April 27th, 2009 at 9:07 pmNow how is the city notified and the Mayor isnt?
April 27th, 2009 at 9:07 pmProud Says:
Why dont you STFU troll. This isnt your site and it isnt any of your business what threads they decide to put up. If you dont like them feel free to avail yourself of the several million other sites out there. No one cares what an ignorant braindead troll like you thinks
April 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pmRick needs to go blow Boehner both look like they would enjoy it.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:13 pmisn’t it graNd Old Party
April 27th, 2009 at 9:19 pmGee, I cannot imagine HOW this guy would have possibly been voted OUT OF FRIGGIN OFFICE!
April 27th, 2009 at 9:25 pmRemember when Beck said the CA fires were killing godless liberals? Well that’s why the goops don’t want universal health care. The more people without healthcare the better. That way, when the pandemic strikes, it will only kill liberals and leave nothing but Christo Facist Republicans behind. Everyone knows that’s how God rolls.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:32 pmWhen are wingnuts going to accept their role of losers? They have no power, no ideas, nothing to offer but stupidity. When will wingnuts admit that they are mad because we elected a black man, who is smarter than everybody in the GOP, to be leader of the free world. Admit it, trolls, you are dying inside. Wingnuts will lose more seats next year. Their party is dying.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pm“Santorum: Reconciliation ‘Has Never Been Done Before’ — Except For When I Used It”
Good lord, who let little Ricky (Retarded-PA) out of his crib? Total BS as usual. Pass the popcorn please…
April 27th, 2009 at 9:45 pmIf you spend just a small amount of time listening to Ricky you will be able to know that he spent most of his life “putting from the rough”. He has has some serious sexual abuse problems somewhere down the line.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:46 pmMost of them claim to be Libertarians these days. But, there are a few remaining who are shameless enough to admit there support for the criminal enterprise known as the Republican Party.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:46 pmGood question. This fool seems to think this blog should become a right-wing propaganda tool.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:49 pmteabaggers have been lying for years. Then came the tubes and they can’t escaped the truth.
chimpy had a hard time with youtube also.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:51 pmIt is my understanding that the FAA shared the information with the NYPD and then told them not to say anything to anybody. And while this poorly-planned (possibly needless) event did frighten a lot of people (and I am from New York State), I do not believe the man should be fired, but he should be demoted. He should not be making decisions in the capacity to which he is currently assigned, as he doesn’t seem to do it very well. That’s just IMHO.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pmSantorum: another unemployed Republican being asked his opinion because Republicans still in office are becoming rarer and rarer.
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Pennsylvanianne Says:
Slick Rick got his start criticizing his predecessor in Congress for buying his main residence in suburban DC and claiming the other guy no longer lived in the Pittsburgh area. Once elected, Ricky did the same thing as his predecessor.
Um… that’s where people send their Senators to go work. Of course, most of them are pretty rich to begin with, so you’d think that if it was a political problem they could just rent.
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Xisithrus Says:
Now how is the city notified and the Mayor isnt?
I was wondering about that statement myself. What’s the difference between “the city” and “the mayor’s office?” Or is Bloomberg just trying to point fingers?
April 27th, 2009 at 10:04 pmProud wants us to believe he was concerned about all those NYC liberals. Priceless.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:06 pmHaven’t Republicans ever heard of the Internet? Tape Recorders? Newspapers? They seem to think we’re all dumb enough not to know that they have done these things themselves….and that the actions and words have been RECORDED–you know, FOR THE RECORD! What kind of weird fantasy world do they live in?
April 27th, 2009 at 10:09 pmI was going to say that Little Ricky shouldn’t be allowed to speak in public, but I’m not going to now.
Keep talking, Ricky!
April 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pmZooey Says:
I was going to say that Little Ricky shouldn’t be allowed to speak in public, but I’m not going to now.
Keep talking, Ricky!
We can’t prevent him from talking, because he has the First Amendment right to do so. But can we make illegal to broadcast what he says? I know, probably not.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:18 pmSomebody get Slick Rick a job, stat! He’s obviously got too much time on his hands now that gay marriage looks to be sweeping the land. Maybe he can be the GOP’s point man for their campaign against “man on dog” sex?
April 27th, 2009 at 10:19 pmI would like to apologize to the progressive community for soem of the bigotry that was on my website before. I was misled my Neo Fascisst who had a genocidal agenda against Islam.
I was tricked because of 9/11 and the aftermath. I have since broken with the Right and now consider my site Centrist. I invite liberals and progressives to register. I will open it tomorrow afternoon.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:23 pmI was tricked because of 9/11 and the aftermath. I have since broken with the Right and now consider my site Centrist. I invite liberals and progressives to register. I will open it tomorrow afternoon.
As what? Little Green Teabags?
April 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pmen güzel oyunlar3d oyunlar oyunlaren güzel oyunlar indirgerçek oyunlarbedaa oyun oyna indir
April 27th, 2009 at 10:38 pmthaks blog
That’s an apology.
President Obama wasn’t happy with this.
link
April 27th, 2009 at 10:38 pmbarfly,
April 27th, 2009 at 10:41 pmI was against the Tea parties, go to my site and read.
No thanks, Chuck.
Are you still with LGF?
April 27th, 2009 at 10:42 pmbarfly,
April 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pmI run LGF, it is my blog. I am now focusing on the Rightwing threat lead by Glenn Beck and Company.
What do you mean when you say that you were tricked by 9/11 and the aftermath?
And what’s your position on using budget reconciliation?
April 27th, 2009 at 10:44 pmwiley, Proud thinks President Obama was piloting that jet. He’s a little confused.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:53 pmCharles Johnson Says:
I would like to apologize to the progressive community for soem of the bigotry that was on my website before. I was misled my Neo Fascisst who had a genocidal agenda against Islam.
I was tricked because of 9/11 and the aftermath. I have since broken with the Right and now consider my site Centrist. I invite liberals and progressives to register. I will open it tomorrow afternoon.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Only “soem” of the bigotry. Charles? Hmmm…
Assuming that’s really you, Charles, what was your lightbulb moment? No, I’m not going to your blog. If you care enough to try to solicit members here, you need to share your epiphany.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:55 pmHe’s negotiating the price for his blog whoring.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:57 pmZooey,
April 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pmI changed when I saw members of the Anti-Jihad movement team up with Euro-Fascists. How can I be against Islamic-Fascism and not against the Euro type? I hate Totalitarianism in any form. I realized I was wrong.
Thanks, Charles. That was…enlightening.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:03 pmThis could be good. Heck! I’ll even offer the closest thing I had to an epiphany re. whether the American Right was batscat. It was the moment I saw Ronnie Raygun embrace Jerry Fallwell and the so-called Moral Majority. It took awhile for it to sink in but that was when I swore off any allegiance to the GOP.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:04 pmThanks, Charles. You seem to be realizing some things that can’t be easy to accept, given your prior work. However, could you get back to us when you evolve a philosophy that’s not based on fear? Even though it’s efficient in motivating automatons, fear just isn’t sound policy or conducive to rational action. Thanx again.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:08 pmWell said, pete.
Yeesh…
April 27th, 2009 at 11:09 pmGood ole Ricky was my Senator. Why does the media give him a platform? Oh yeah, big business owns media.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:17 pmIt ain’t easy, Zooey. I am so sick of people stating their displeasure by saying “I’m afraid” that it’s hard to even respond. On the bright side? Saying things like “I’m afraid” tends to be haunting at election time. Every time one of the leading lights of the GOP uses that term? Their poll numbers drop another notch.
Who would have guessed that the mighty Reichwhiners would make their last stand by proclaiming their abject terror and wetting themselves in public? Nah! That wasn’t hard to guess but it really amazes me that such mortal cowards ever gained such a disproportionate amount of clout.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:20 pmHardly a day goes by without another republican hypocrite putting his foot in his mouth. Everything IOKIYAR.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:20 pmRepugs have no desire to cooperate or work with the administration in any way.
My light bulb moment was when the press reported that the hijacked planes were invisible because they turned off their transponders. The assertion that finding individual planes was like finding needles in a haystack, on top of that, was also astonishing. After telling America that we were totally defenseless against planes that turned off their transponders and that air traffic controllers can’t really do their job, we were told that the answer to the question of what will make us safe was destroying the Bill of Rights and treating every airline passenger like a potential terrorist.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:21 pmWhat is this – our resident troll is blaming Obama for the NYC jet incident — what a surprise. I guess Fox news didn’t report what every other outlet reported – that Obama didn’t know about it, was furious when he learned of it, and Caldera was summoned to the White House immediately so he could be on the receiving end of the reaming of a new a$$hole.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:23 pmBeck, I think, is more like an anarcho capitalist than anything else
April 27th, 2009 at 11:33 pmColbert Study: Conservatives Don’t Know He’s Joking
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/27/colbert-study-conservativ_n_191899.html
I wonder if Santorum knows…
April 27th, 2009 at 11:34 pmBeck is a raving lunatic with delusions of becoming a Messianic cult leader. He is a fool who may be crazy enough to be dangerous.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:36 pmSANTORUM, tar and feather him!!!!
April 27th, 2009 at 11:46 pmrepubs dont care if 14000 per day are losing their health insurance.
readers still dont get it.
repubs are about materialism and a I got mine attitude now you get yours.
the interesting thing to me many of these repubs go to church every sunday and pray to jesus.
did they miss his message or what?
also the repubs are war mongers and if my memory serves me right jesus did not teach war mongering.
talk about missing the message.
repubs are bottom feeders but they will learn if not in this life than others.
it is called the law of progress.
few will understand my words. very few.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:56 pmBrothabildo, if you’re looking for someone to refute your ‘argument’ (as you said recently when Wayne Ant Schneider responded to you), instead of lacing into you for being an insulting troll, I’d suggest a slightly more polite tone. It does help (although, yes, there are always examples of less-than-polite commentary to be found from us on any of these threads, I admit it.)
BTW, Wayne went to bed, if you were hoping for another response from him.
Goodnight.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:05 amCharles Johnson Says:
barfly,
I was against the Tea parties, go to my site and read.
If you are who you say you are (and it looks like you are) then my first thought is “one of the worst rats to leave the sinking ship of neconism.” But then I thought “OK, welcome aboard, rat. Have a towel and a warm spot by the heater.”
Best of luck with that. I may check it out.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:17 amLGF sucks bigtime.
They are nasty, silly and hate President Obama.
What’s wrong “chuck” is your site fading like the teabagger club?
Losing revenue?
HAHAHAHA
April 28th, 2009 at 12:18 amSpeaking of the wingnut danger, check this out:
It’s already starting. The upcoming decade is going to make the Aryan/militia/anti-government/terrorism of the 90’s look like small potatoes. As if we didn’t have enough to deal with…
April 28th, 2009 at 12:22 amPointing finger again BrothaBill?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:26 amA) I am not a politician.
B) I have ripped no one off, you probably mean wall street, they arent elected by the people.
C) Do you have any quick cures to greed thats been around for thousands of years?
Well, Santorum is just that: the ugly by-product of what teh right hates.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:29 amAnother sockpuppet? Sigh… how original.
Still the same coward as before only more desperate and sad. It is funny though, how none of the “usual trolls” show up to rail against his anti-American shtick. Kind of makes me think we are dealing with one victim of MPD who’s fast approaching the breaking point.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:30 ambrothabildo Says:
You ripped the world off and need to be imprisoned for electing your officials.
How about we just imprison any officials who committed crimes? Sound good?
Because you can’t exactly jail an entire electorate for the results of a free and fair election, unless you’re a – you know what, there isn’t even any point to replying to what you think. I might as well try to debate OBL.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:32 amGood grief. Do these people ever do anything but lie and obstruct? In or out of office. They do it as natural as breathing. And for reason, they know the American public have short memories. That is if they pay attention to begin with. And the republicans know this and they use it. And why not?
This party is truly as detestable as possible. For the life of me, I cannot think of a one that is worth spit. There are no so called moderates. Just some who don’t yell but still vote the party line. These are what liberals mistakenly call moderates.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:50 amBy what mad science does a planet moveaway from the massive object it orbits? Is the Earth just wandering off for some reason that surely baffles physicists (who are just a bunch of pretentious, latte sipping jerk anyway–I mean who is going to believe all that math)?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:50 am“Earth moving away from sun” gets three hits. That is certainly a well kept secret.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:59 am.
#73 brothabildo Says:
I see you hate democracy, then, NO?
… brother, what a dildo!
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April 28th, 2009 at 2:18 amwiley,
Moving away from the sun, as in…
… Falling away from(sic) counterbalanced by the gravitational pull from the mass of the sun creates the perpetual motion into action, thus, orbit . That is, until something interrupts that motion …
You know…
Mc=somethin’x2
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April 28th, 2009 at 2:27 amSo is Mars getting bigger? Much bigger?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:42 amIf it gets any closer it will appear so. Much, sometimes…
… Then it deflates.
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April 28th, 2009 at 2:44 amSo, is former Senator Rick Sanitarium still relevant? No, but is he still a liar and a hypocrite?hell yes! and so is the rest of the Reich wing.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:50 amWe shouldn’t go to Mars. We should just switch places.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:56 amIn 2008 exports of goods and services grew by 12.0% to 1.84 trillion
Exports comprised 13.1% of GDP in 2008, compared to 9.5% five years ago and 5.3% 40 years ago.
top growth categories for capital goods were medicinal equipment, materials handling equipment, industrial engines, telecommunications equipment. and civilian aircraft engines
link
Hmmm. Maybe there is a link between the trade deficit and the 1.84 trillion dollars worth of American exports. Could it be that we buy from other countries through some kind of conspiracy in which we also sell goods to other countries? Stuff they want to buy?
April 28th, 2009 at 3:35 amSantorum means a dog/human sexual reconciliation.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:24 amRicky isn’t intelligent enough to remember that he used “reconciliation”. Thank you, Pennsylvania for removing him from the Senate. Let’s get rid of Specter, too. Suddenly Specter has a change of heart and wants to limit presidential executive powers.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:25 amWhat is it about a trillion dollars being spent to insure 50 million people that doesnt seen like a farce. Cant you libturds get it that the return on investment isnt there. Thats 13 k per person that will cause your kids kids, kids to continue to pay for it. Its a real shame you fail to study history and see the real effects of socialism or communism. Its like why should I bust my ass when the guy next to me doesnt work and gets the same. One needs to get what they earn. Read darwin. This health program will bankrupt this nation as it has done to canada Britian, Russia, CHina, Only little cuba hasnt been bankrupted by healthcare because their communist policy has already ruined their state, thats why the Cubans all try to leave. Talk to eastern europeans about the effects of socialism on their nations. It was 50 years of hell. Why are you imbeciles rushing to embrace the policies that have failed everywhere in the world. Do you really believe the demopukes are smarter than everyone else? The Phoney dopesmoking hustler Messiah can do what has failed everywhere? Please. Get your heads out of the pot smoke and do some real analysis. Course that means using your brain and not parroting the BS fed to you like a moron reading from a teleprompter. BAsed on what I have read from the posters above, I would be surprised if colectively they even knew what history is let alone understood the real dangers America is being placed in by the wrong headed ideas of socialism. So I challange you boneheads to tell me why socialism will work in the US when it is a total failure everywhere else. Unless you idiots what the govt running your lives and making your decisions for you. If so we have a nation of wimps and pussys
April 28th, 2009 at 9:02 amkimoalquds
So, is there anything you like about America?
April 28th, 2009 at 9:06 amThe internet has done a lot to kill the Right. Wingers are used to pulling things out of their butts and spewing them.
Untl the net, all anyone heard was what the Right wanted us to believe. Most Americans will go to their graves believing terrible things about Bill Clinton–and his family–that were cooked up by psychos in the RNC.
But now the lies get shot down–usually within hours–on the net. Thank God the 109th Congress (the ones we threw out on 2006) were too busy buggering pages to screw up the internet.
Busload of Faith
April 28th, 2009 at 9:07 amI might have to agree that we are all the same. No matter who we elect they are in someones pocket. Many would love to see a Canada style health care system, but our current administration has already been bought and sold on the issue.
hereas deals happen behind closed doors to protect the interests of a powerful industry that the Washington Post describes as “one of the mightiest political forces in Washington, spending nearly $1 billion on lobbying and contributing $162 million to candidates of both parties over the past two years.” It gave Obama $19 million for his campaign and now wants payback for its investment. It’s coming and will be right in line with its wish list.
For one thing, the White House and key congressional members ruled single-payer Canadian-style coverage “off the table,” according to Senate Finance Committee chairman, Max Baucus. Physicians for a National Health Program’s (PNHP) co-founder and director, Dr. David Himmelstein, responded:
“The president once acknowledged that single payer reform was the best option, but now he’s caving in to corporate healthcare interests and completely shutting out (chances for) single reform. The majority of Americans favor (it), and it’s the most popular reform option among doctors and health economists….”
In addition, “he’s appointed as his health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle, a woman who has made her living advising health care investors and sits on the board of many for-profit firms that have made billions from Medicare. Her appointment – and the invitation list to the healthcare summit – (are) clear signal(s) that the administration plans to propose a corporate-friendly (plan) that has no chance of actually solving our health care crisis.” It likely will make it worse and shows this president serves the powerful, not the people.
http://www.infowars.com/health-care-reform-obama-style/
April 28th, 2009 at 9:49 amRick, you have soiled yourself so badly – just shut up and go away. Take Tom Delay, Newt Gingrich and Grover Norquist with you.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:02 amkimoalquds, We on the left want some social safety nets in case of being laid off, getting a catastrophic disease or having a loved one need care as opposed to you heartless soul less bastards on the right that want to protect a fetus to hell and back but once the baby is born into poverty by an unwed teenage mother you don`t give a shit what happens to that baby, no health care,no baby food,no clothes no nothing, so you tell me that sex education,contraception or abstinence doesn`t need to be taught.You Reich wingers only care for your selves and your party you don`t care about this country because you want Obama to fail because you cry babies lost in Nov and will lose on 2010 because of your party`s allegiance to itself and not this country.We had eight of the Shrubs crime family and idiots like love a free wheeling Wall Street that lacks oversight and regulation and you never met a Free Market capitalist you didn`t like because they are as crooked as your politics.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:17 amstewarjt Says:
Santorum means a dog/human sexual reconciliation.
Actually, the definition of santorum is “that frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.” Why he would want to be named after that, I’m not sure.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:30 amkimoalquds Says:
If so we have a nation of wimps and pussys
April 28th, 2009 at 9:02 am
And you are their King.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:54 amkimoalquds Says:
You ConPUNKS are just too stupid to understand that yellow ball that gives light and warmth much less economics. Face it you are a bunch of morons. Maggots are smarter than you. The rest of the industrial world has national healthcare you simpering baboon and they pay LESS for it. Less per capita and less as a percentage of their GDP. We pay the MOST for our healthcare and we are 37th in quality ranking. Of course it will cost a lot of money to make the transition just like it costs a lot of money to move to a new less expensive house. Then again I am talking to a ReTARDlican you are too stupid and certainly too brainwashed to understand any of this until Rush TELLS you its what you have to think. What a moron. Just sit back. We took the keys away from you worthless idiots so sit in the back seat STFU and let the adults drive a while
April 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pmbrothabildo Says:
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Democrats are the same as Republicans and the same as all of you. You ripped the world off and need to be imprisoned for electing your officials.
You elected these people and each and everyone of you should be imprisoned for crimes against humanity and for ripping the world off.
Whats funny as a foreigner looking at you all. Is that you are too much of a bunch of pussies to take responsibility. YOu are a democracy, you elected the dems and reps that totally ruined the world economy.
Now you only blame one side of your politics. No sir, no way, the world arent going to let you off the hook, you are all to blame.
If its one thing the world cannot stand are wimps like you who dont stand up take responsibility for your actions. You all want free stuff and dont want to work.
The USA makes nothing, does not produce anymore. You guys dont even know how to make a broom anymore. You shipped those jobs to mexico and china who will work for pennies compared to you. Who do NOTHING! You dont make anything. The most worthless country in the world and one who scammed the rest of the world.
Look at you, pointing fingers at republicans lol. Look in the mirror, you are the problem. You want the world to work for a dollar a day to make you Walmart free stuff while you play fantasy football and do nothing but get obese
THe usa is
Well I guess we will just have to wait and see when the dust has cleared, who is still standing. I pity the fool who bets against the USA. God bless America, God save the world.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pmWho is talking about free health care?
I’ve worked for nine years as a caregiver. I’ve had four clients. I talked with doctors from three HMOs and a research hospital. I also deal with VA doctors for myself. One thing I’ve noticed about doctors is that they write superbly concise and clear letters.
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