Specter To Switch Parties And Run As A Democrat In 2010
Specter To Switch Parties And Run As A Democrat In 2010
Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter today announced that he will be switching his party affiliation from Republican to Democrat and will run in 2010 as a Democrat. The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza writes:
Specter’s decision would give Democrats a 60 seat filibuster proof majority in the Senate assuming Democrat Al Franken is eventually sworn in as the next Senator from Minnesota. (Former Sen. Norm Coleman is appealing Franken’s victory in the state Supreme Court.)
“I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary,” said Specter in a statement. “I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.”
“Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans.”
CNN’s Dana Bash called the news “seismic.” CNN’s Ed Henry said that the President heard about Specter’s shift at 10:25 a.m. He then called Specter and said, “You have my full support and we’re thrilled to have you.” Here’s the picture of Obama calling Specter.
Specter’s full statement is below:
I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and the nation.
Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans.
When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now experiencing.
Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of Pennsylvania.
I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.
I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.
I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their forbearance.
I am not making this decision because there are no important and interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania’s economy.
I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign contributions contributed during this cycle.
While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.
My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans. Unlike Senator Jeffords’ switch which changed party control, I will not be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.
Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President Kennedy’s statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I think is best for Pennsylvania and America.
I spoke with Arlen this morning and he explained his reasoning to me. I told him I was deeply disappointed that he felt he had to do it. It is a huge blow to the Republican's ability to moderate any of Obama's very liberal proposals. I can only hope that Arlen will be as independent as a Democrat as he has been as a Republican.
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… thank you, arlen.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pmOnly the very Anti-american sick and twisted people align themselves with Republican Party.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pmIt’s ok I guess but I don’t like Republicans posing as Democrats I rather choose a far left before picking him.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pmNow that you’re coming to the light Arlen, who killed JFK?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pmAny Democrat who could beat him in the primary would no doubt win the general election.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pmBuh-bye GOP.
Don’t the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya…
April 28th, 2009 at 12:09 pmThis is excellent news! Welcome to the big tent Mr. Specter! I hope Snowe and Collins follow suit!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pmI love it! The lunatics are even more marginalized! Thank God this day has come, been waiting a long time for the thugs to be a minority, lets see how they like it.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pmSo can we do a re-vote on Clarence Thomas, accompanied by an apology to Anita Hill?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pmLast year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans.”
would have been better as:
“I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans. [And] Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become Democrats.”
April 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pmDear Arlen,
Thanks, but no thanks.
Sincerely,
The Democratic Party
April 28th, 2009 at 12:10 pmThis means that the Minnesota Senate seat won’t be decided for months and months as the Republicans throw billions of dollars to try and get the inevitible delayed.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pmIt may just be worthwhile to listen to Rush today. He’s likely to pop an artery.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pmDoes this mean we can expect Specter to not only talk more like a Democrat but also to vote like one from now on?
The Democratic Party better field a primary opponent against Specter.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pmWelcome, now let’s hurry and get Franken into his well-earned seat in Washington.
Moving forward, don’t care if the Repukes can keep up, fcuk them all.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pmWOW!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:12 pmJust what we need — another blue dog!
I hear a lot of talk about 60 Democrats being a “filibuster-proof majority”, but just having 60 Democrats is no guarantee they all vote in lockstep.
Democrats are a more diverse and independent-thinking bunch than the Republican drones.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pmchange, not chance
Fingers faster than the eye!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pmIs Specter going to chance affiliation NOW and then caucus with the Democrats NOW? If not, this is just his following the parade that he’s leading.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:13 pmstewarjt Says:
I wouldn’t say no thanks, I think we should be open to all but should be caution on who they really are.
A Reagon Republican I’m assuming means that he disagrees with Obama’s Economics but probably agrees with him on Social issues(torture is Unamerican)
So their are a few risk here
April 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pmOnce you examine Specter’s voting record, you have to come to the conclusion that this “switch” is just another case of slapping a bright shade of red lipstick on a pig.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pmWow, that’s some fast, time-warping fingers.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pmThis is kind of like leaving a company for another copany before it closed down – key word is CLOSING.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pmSpecter did not leave the Rethuglic party as such, more like, he was DRIVEN out as a RINO by the foaming-at-the-mouth base-who prefer the likes of Joe the nonplumbing tax-cheat, Biblethumping Caribou Barbie, unhinged Michele Bachman, Trannie Coulter, and Flush Limpdick and his dittoheads.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pmAh yes, Specter knows where the voter’s are so he will follow them…Not a Dem we need…Thanks but no thanks arnie…Blessings
April 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pmI don’t want him. He’s only switching because of the trouble he’ll have getting re-elected. But at least he’ll be better than Leiberman.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pmanother one bites the dust. who has a pool going for the number of republicans in the Senate after the 2010 elections? my money is on 25-30
April 28th, 2009 at 12:19 pmMy thoughts exactly. If he doesn’t start improving his record IMMEDIATELY, then I can only hope he loses the primary.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:21 pmI know that this isn’t going to change some of the votes in the Senate, but believe me, according to journalists and pundits alike, this is bombshell territory. The GOP was ready to proclaim themselves ready to take back the majority, but this is suddenly a tremendous task.
The GOP will work hard to pretty much kick Specter out early and come up with dirt to make sure Sen. Specter is branded a traitor. Their only hope is that Specter’s constituents see him as a traitor too.
And, no, I doubt Limbaugh will be able to make Specter switch back…unless this is a conspiracy theory in the making?
I can picture 2010 with the Dems embracing Specter, only for Specter to clobber Harry Reid with a folding chair and pull off his shirt to show a GOP symbol.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pmIt is seismic, that’s a good adjective to use.
It’s not really much practical good for Democrats, though, other than for bragging rights. Specter will still vote as Specter always has, but maybe declaring himself a Democrat will subject him to more effective persuasion from the party leadership, and maybe his rhetoric will slide to the left.
The downside is it puts more pressure on Republicans to stonewall Al Franken’s seating.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pmAnother rat abondoning the sinking Republican party. Specter figures he would lose the Republican primary, and has a better chance getting in the general election. The other thing is with the additional Republican losses in 2010, the 60 vote margin is inevitable. Specter figures he can get a lot better deal as the 60th versus the 61st.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:22 pmThis doesn’t have as big an impact as Jim Jeffords decision to leave the GOP in 2001.
That one actually switched control of the Senate.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pmDoodlebug Shayne @14
It may just be worthwhile to listen to Rush today. He’s likely to pop an artery.
LOL! I switched to FAUX Noise just to hear the WINE! I’m watching FAUX tonight just to see if the mention it!
FCUK THE RETHUGLICANS!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pmdeebaser, even with my skepticism about Specter, I welcome this news. It is more of a devastating blow to the Republicanics than it is a gain for the Democrats, but that’s something to celebrate.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pmI don’t believe that Specter…or ANY Dem…should vote lock-step with the Party.
That is exactly what is killing the republican party — lock-step voting.
Vote your principles, support your entire constituency, and let your entire constituency re-elect you or throw you out based on your performance.
Political darwinism, so to speak. Better than mindless following of the herd.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pm2010? Just in time for the transition from soylent red
April 28th, 2009 at 12:26 pmto soylent green.
I am so looking forward to voting against him in the primary for the first time ever, how does senator Hoeffel sound? Cause unless Arlen turns into the same kind of party loyalty before anything toolbox that he was YESTER-FREAKIN’-DAY… he’s history.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pmI think this proves that most political figures loves politics more than they love America.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pmHere’s Specter’s full statement:
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/04/28/breaking-specter-to-switch-parties/
April 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pmThis must be somewhat of a relief for Specter – now he doesn’t have to answer to Limbaugh!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pmAnd the Republicans continue to shed anyone that isn’t a nutball
April 28th, 2009 at 12:28 pmOh Yeah……..Maybe the (late) George Harrison was right
April 28th, 2009 at 12:29 pmwhen he said and I quote “When you don’t know where
you are going, any road will do.”
Somebody needs to ask Specter exactly on what issues and values he now finds his “political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans”.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:30 pmawesome, mary! You nailed it.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:30 pmAnd regarding the Norm Coleman/Al Franken pissing contest…..I fully support the republican party’s right to piss millions of dollars down the drain trying to fight an un-winable fight.
Every dollar they piss away fighting Franken is a dollar they won’t have for future battles.
I think Franken has done a good job staying above the fray. More and more MN voters are getting pissed at Coleman and the repub party for their nonsense.
Let them continue their circular firing squad as long as they want – they are only hurting the repub party with their continued extremism.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pmArlen Specter is doing what he thinks will be good for Arlen Specter, NOT what is good for Pennsylvania, or the U.S.A. He knows that he can’t win a republican primary, so, he switches allegience to the Dems, hoping that the voters in Penn. are dumb enough to fall for it. He stated that he won’t change his vote on EFCA, yet, he believes that he can win in the working people’s party? Good luck with that, Senator. I would imagine that the Steel Workers and the United Mine Workers, among others, will not be all that enthused with Specter wanting to represent their interests.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pmEven if this is based on political reasons, the fact that a major player in the Republican hierarchy is saying enough is enough is a huge thing. Much more of a statement than Gumby Joe Lieberman.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:32 pmThere has been a Senator Specter from PA for as long as I can remember and there will be a Senator Specter from PA for (at least) six more years after this. And he’ll be the same old Arlen.
The symbolism here, especially regarding the Kennedy quotation that “sometimes Party asks too much,” is what is important. Specter’s (ex)Party has been asking too much now for several years. It used to be that a certain type of Republican could vote against Party from time to time and that was fine with with the GOP because it made their tent look bigger and their message look broader. Nowadays, if you are a Senior Senator and you side slightly more with the public than with Party ideologues, you are summarily branded a traitor and no longer welcome.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pmArlen Specter has sounded like a democrat throughout the Bush years, the very voice of reasonability until it came time to vote , where upon he invariably leaned the other direction . This is a last move to retain his seat amidst a changing political climate and should be seen in much the same light as Joe Liebermans caucusing with the democrats .
April 28th, 2009 at 12:33 pmThanks but no thanks !
ralph the wonder locust Says:
mary lacewing Says:
This must be somewhat of a relief for Specter – now he doesn’t have to answer to Limbaugh!
awesome, mary! You nailed it.
Ooooooh – that’s really gonna piss off Rush!!! This is REALLY making my day today!!!!!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:35 pmWhat? There isn’t already enough DINOs in the Democratic party who spend their days doing whatever Republicans want, when they want, and spitting in the face of their own base if it means making Republicans happy?
Seriously…how is this GOOD news for the Left. We don’t need him. And if he is so worried about the righ going too far right, then clearly he thinks the Democrats are just right enough. He’ll just be another blue-dog DINO sabatuer working to ensure the left continues to be marginalized.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:36 pmIn practical terms, this may not have much of an impact on policy, but on branding/PR terms this is an utter disaster for the GOP.
I love it.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:37 pmTracy__5 Says:
Specter’s career is now offically over.
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that’s what they said about
ben nighthorse campbell.
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how’s that stick in your eye?
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 12:37 pmTracy__5 Says:
Specter’s career is now offically over. It’s just begun hahaha
April 28th, 2009 at 12:38 pm—————————————————————-
Congratulations Senator Spector on seeing what the rest of us wise American sees as the death of the GOP.
Tracist must have a different sense of the terms “officially” or “over” than the rest of us do.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:40 pmSpecter is just jumping off the sinking USS Republican
It is good news for America in that it signals yet another death throe of the GOP
April 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pmWait for the trashing of Specter by the Republicans.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pmI’m trying to excited, but I can’t.
I’ve watched Sen. Sphinctor flip flop, warble, choke & make shit up too many times.
He grandstands on issues, then slinks into a corner to do just the opposite.
Better than ‘Lips Leiberman’, I guess, but that’s not saying much.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pm“Update: Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum commented on Specter’s decision in Politico’s Arena…”
As if anyone cares.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:41 pmAs a Pennsylvania, I’ve seen Specter as a fair weather friend who is more bark than bite.
The proof of Party change will be in the votes he casts, not the letter after his name.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 12:42 pmRosencrantz Says: Seriously…how is this GOOD news for the Left.
Funny old saying in Chicago politics: “Sure he’s a crook…but he’s OUR crook!”
This may or may not do much to HELP the Dems….but it goes pretty far in HURTING the repubs, as they continue to careen into extremism. That’s the crucial answer here.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:42 pmpoor tracy – it must suck watching your beloved party of cowards becoming less and less relevant
someone call tracy a waaambulance
April 28th, 2009 at 12:42 pmUm, that would be Pennsylvanian! too much caffeine…
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 12:43 pmSantorum? ewww, WHO cares about Santorum unless it dribbled on your floor?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:45 pmAre you nuts??? That’s a sucker bet if I’ve ever seen one!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:45 pmNow this is a newsflash!!! We all know why he’s doing this, of course. Specter’s not stupid — he can see the handwriting on the wall just as clearly as we can. According to Electoral-Vote.com, many moderate Republicans (most of whom would have otherwise voted for Specter) — decamped and went over the Democratic Party prior to the election which Obama carried with plenty of room to spare.
None of this suggests that his political philosophy has changed any — in fact, his statement clearly indicates that they have not. The only reason why he’s doing this is because he thinks that he has a better chance of staying in office this way, party loyalty be damned. Naturally, his defection raises the question…does a man who switches parties purely for the sake of self-interest really have any integrity?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pmTracy__5 Says:
Specter’s career is now offically over.
How about you take a similar tack a desist posting your inane crapola.
Thanks!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pmAnd Senator Franken makes 60
Wow, that’s gotta sting, if you’re still mentally deficient enough to be a Republican
April 28th, 2009 at 12:46 pmI saw, heard and remember and still don’t trust Specter. Then much younger Senator Specter gave the Warren Commission a Harry Potter story of the Magic Bullet that killed JFK. Being of an age to understand right from wrong his story to the American people was bull. He was covering for his Party and adults believed him. He now knows he’s on his way out of this world and is now trying to fix the wrong, but it doesn’t work that way. I believe a snake will always be a snake. Specter held the Bush Administration get us in this mess. Yes he saw that the Republican voters of his State have changed Parties and he would not win as a Republican. Specter still has Greed and Evil in his heart and we will see Satan seating at the table.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pmSpecter’s action is further proof that the Republican Party has no room for moderates. Back in the days of Everett Dirksen, Barry Goldwater and even John Heinz, it did, and provided a more reasonable and definitely more collegial counterbalance to the Democratic Party. How very sad that Specter’s own party is trying to hound him out of the Senate. Even Heinz’s wife, Teresa, is now a Democrat, married to John Kerry. It will be interesting to see if Specter will survive the Democratic primary, or if state Dems will vote for more loyal party members.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pmLOL, great comedy there, ConForProgress
Unless that wasn’t satire, in which case you’re just a moron
April 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pmJosh Marshall has some great snark about this over at TCM:
Needless to say, this is quite a coup for the GOP, likely engineered by Michael Steele as a way to smoke out enemies.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:48 pmSucker bets are coming fast and furious this morning! “count on it”…..sheesh!!!!!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pmAnything that upsets right wing cowards this much HAS to be a good thing
April 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pmAnother career politician keeping his ” whichever way the wind blows ” side show afloat. He sounds like my goofy brother-in-law. He waits untill after the elections to put “only the winners” bumper stickers on his car.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:49 pm….
wither proud?
watch dog?
reality christ?
???
“o coward conscience, how dost thou afflict me!”
- shakespeare
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April 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pmEveryone would be better served if Specter announced he was no longer seeking re election..Period…Blessings
April 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pmWe gladly welcome any and all rats recently liberated from any and all sinking ships.
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Purple State Says:
I know that this isn’t going to change some of the votes in the Senate…
Given the scorched-earth, strong-arm tactics used to twist arms in the Republican caucus, there may have been a number of votes and/or positions that Specter (and others there) would have liked to take but were bullied out of.
Which means that if nothing else, we’ll get his vote more often than we would have. WHich is a good thing.
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Wiz Says:
Specter figures he would lose the Republican primary, and has a better chance getting in the general election.
Probably figures that the primary would pit him at a disadvantage against some fruit loop from the woods who would get trounced in the general. But whether it’s politics or conscience, it amounts to the same thing: their party sucks and it would be better to join the sane.
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April 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pmI see our “conservative for progress” friend has the standard right-wing difficulty with matching adjectives like “Democratic” with nouns like “Congress”.
He still thinks a noun can be used to modify a noun.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pmSpecter’s “epiphany” probably has more to do with this than any ‘come-to-Jesus moment:
Poll: Toomey Ahead Of Specter By 21 Points For 2010 Senate Primary
It’s basically a Lieberman move….
April 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pmRalph, coming from you that certainly means a lot – thanks!
Personally, I felt you captured it very well with your post at #32.
I also like AverageTodd’s reference to the importance of the symbolism and Tweedster’s mention of the impact on the branding/PR of the GOP.
Bottom line, for whatever the reason(s), Specter just rejected the Republican party.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pmThe right wingers will continue shedding support as long as they continue to embrace the extremists.
Which, of course, is good for America.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
This makes the case for blaming the Democrats in 2010 even easier. Democrat President. Democrat House and Senate since 2006. Fillibuster proof in Senate since 2009. Democrat chairs of every committee. Nobody to blame but Democrats.
It will be a simple question: Are you better off now than you were in January, 2006? If the answer is “no,” than vote the bastards out.
Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.
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michelle and larry.
count on it.
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pmRalph, can’t wait to see Josh’s “Deep Thought” for today.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
This makes the case for blaming the Democrats in 2010 even easier. Democrat President. Democrat House and Senate since 2006. Fillibuster proof in Senate since 2009. Democrat chairs of every committee. Nobody to blame but Democrats.
Then blame the Democratic Party if things fail. I wouldn’t complain if things went horribly wrong; the people want to try the Democratic way for right now.
However, I suggest you commend them if things work. That’s something I doubt we’ll be hearing from you if things work out.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pmSpecter is fully aware his only chance of getting re-elected in this political climate is to change the (R) after his name to a (D). Thus the party switch.
I wouldn’t hold out hope that he’ll be anything more than a blue-dog.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:53 pmHuge news, but what does it say about the Democratic Party?
Politicians are known for following the money.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pmSo why would Democrats vote for Specter?
He’s no friend to labor, or any of the rest of the Dim constituency, that I can see.
Why wouldn’t Dims put up a REAL Democrat?
Or is Specter (along with Casey) the best you can do in PA for candidates?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:54 pmApparently CFP sees this much the same way as TPM (not TCM, my bad) suggests Michael Steele would:
“this is good news for the GOP!”
April 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pmTracy__5 Says:
Specter’s career is now offically over.
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Much like any real relevance for the Republican Party
April 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
It will be a simple question: Are you better off now than you were in January, 2006? If the answer is “no,” than vote the bastards out.
Try 2008. But seeing as how it took about two years for all the desperate cover-ups to unravel, we had it pretty bad in 2006 too. We just hadn’t found out about it because the Republicans we had elected were lying to us. Best not let that happen again.
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ConservativeForProgress Says:
Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.
Ooh, I have an idea, why don’t you go back to your roots, aka. “true conservatism?” That’s sure to work!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pmPennsylvania has gone from Specter(R) and Santorum(R) to Casey(D) and Specter(D) in a little over two years. A microcosm of America!
Can Collins and Snowe be far behind?
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 12:55 pmSome of you are missing the point. Even if Specter turns out to be a blue-dog, it will still mean one less Republican.
Better a blue-dog than a yellow-bellied Repub any day.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pmAside from the obvious political motives, maybe Specter has had a good look at the heinous torture evidence that has yet to be made public, and he’s getting the hell away from BushCo..
It would be in the Republicans best interest to rebrand–like Blackwater.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:57 pmEver hear the expression, “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”?
The logic behind the expression means, if someone gives you a horse for free, you don’t complain because it’s not the pick of the litter.
You take it and say thank you.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:57 pmWatching the Republican Party implode is almost as enjoyable as watching Obama returning America to greatness
April 28th, 2009 at 12:58 pmThe clock is now ticking on Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. The Republicans targeted the two of them along with Specter, and Snowe/Collins are also from “blue states”.
60 votes is not enough. Keep fighting!
April 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pmI slightly disagree. This poll told Specter that a nutjob is leading in the polls of fellow nutjob voters.
Specter sees that the nutjob voters will not control the PA senate election, so he went to the side that WILL decide the election.
Self-preservation? Sure. But better than self-immolation from sticking with his suicidal party.
PA Voters can still decide whether Specter is worth keeping or not. But at least his fate will be decided by the large majority of non-crazies rather than small minority of remaining repubs.
April 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.
Ah, yes, we’ll count on it. And just like 2006, we’ll use Rovian Math.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
It will be a simple question: Are you better off now than you were in January, 2006? If the answer is “no,” than vote the bastards out.
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After 8 years of the catastrophic governing of the GOP? Either the Dems fix all messes in two short years or we will hear even more Goopers saying WWWWWAAAHHHHHHHHHHH. Good luck with that loser.
Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.
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HA. You have certainly lost all touch with reality. You would need to gain TEN seats in the Senate to even make it 50/50 and more than 75 seats in the House. You just dont really DO reality do you?
April 28th, 2009 at 12:59 pmThe trolls must be waiting for the radio to tell them what to think about this
April 28th, 2009 at 1:00 pmIm from penn. Im more impressed with the 200,000 registered voters that switched over to democrat.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pmIf a person does the right thing for the wrong reasons, the right thing is still done.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:01 pmI think that made an impression on Specter as well
April 28th, 2009 at 1:02 pmJust one more nail in the GOP Coffin. Until the GOP wakes up and is forced by what is left of its moderate wing back to the center, they will continue to shed not just pols but voters as well. As for Conforprogress and his “Republican Revolution” in 2010. Good luck with that.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:03 pmScore one for the good guys.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:03 pm1. The Democratic Party didnt have a mjority until 2007. and a razor thin one at that.
2. The republicans can only run on the “are you better off now” line if they have some new ideas. They can’t run on “TAX CUTS TAX CUTS TAX CUTS GOVERNMENT DOESNT WORK” any more, especially if government starts to, you know, work.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmconforprog says: It will be a simple question: Are you better off now than you were in January, 2006? If the answer is “no,” than vote the bastards out.
Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.
Any particular reason you’re measuring progress on off year elections? Oh yeah, the bush depression didn’t kick in until after the 06 elections. Why not be more specific and ask “Are you better off on April 15th 2010 than you were on December 25th 1999?”
April 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmBut…but…but…FOX has better ratings! Yeah, that’s it! Whew!
/snark off
April 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmWAYNEBRO Says:
Ever hear the expression, “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”?
The logic behind the expression means, if someone gives you a horse for free, you don’t complain because it’s not the pick of the litter.
You take it and say thank you.
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All that is true and none of it stops you from trading it in for a BETTER horse as soon as humanly possible
April 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmsscncturn64 Says:
Im from penn. Im more impressed with the 200,000 registered voters that switched over to democrat.
I’m from PA, too, and this only tells part of the story. About 660,000 registered R’s changed in 2008, most to Independents, but progress is progress.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 1:05 pmGOP = Gone Outta Politics
April 28th, 2009 at 1:06 pmC’mon Rush! What’s the holdup? Hurry up and tell the trolls what to think so they can come here and get schooled again!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:06 pmEugene atrax robustus Debs Says:
WAYNEBRO Says: Ever hear the expression, “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth”?
The logic behind the expression means, if someone gives you a horse for free, you don’t complain because it’s not the pick of the litter.
You take it and say thank you.
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All that is true and none of it stops you from trading it in for a BETTER horse as soon as humanly possible
Don’t knock gift horses, we may be eating horse meat before this is all over…And yes, Arlen may be old and stringy, but if you stew him over low heat, with parsnips and onions, he’d be delectable. Hmmmmmmmm,republican flesh…
April 28th, 2009 at 1:07 pmEven though I wouldn’t count on Specter for much of anything, it’s still fun to watch the reichwing fume and gnash their teeth about his “betrayal”
POPCORN TIME!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:08 pm…
good headline from c&l:
Specter switches parties, gives Democrats 60 votes, GOP irrelevance now official
By David Neiwert
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pmFauxNews has a quote from Michael Steele:
“Left-wing”? Jeebus, but that’s hysterical. Arlen Specter, commie pinko.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pmRantingTommy Says:
C’mon Rush! What’s the holdup? Hurry up and tell the trolls what to think so they can come here and get schooled again!
I’m sure Specter is counting on a Rush Rant. What better seal of approval for the Dems to embrace him?
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 1:09 pmI have to agree with Uncle Ho on this one. I was driving across Ohio the afternoon after Jeffords defected and I NEVER enjoyed rush as much as i did that day. It may have been what drove him to oxycotin. This may give him a stroke on air, if we’re lucky.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pmIf you have the time, turn the TV on to Fox News…The talking heads are spinning…hilarious!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pmJimWolfe359 says:
Sorry Wolfie, there is NO moderates in the GOP, they were all driven out as heretics by the neo-Nazi base over the last several years.
I guess you didn’t get the memo.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pmThis is great news for John McCain!
(sorry, old 538 joke)
April 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pmLast month, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D) said that he, Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA), and Vice President Biden had been lobbying Specter to switch.
Nice going Dems this is a very hard blow for the right.
RNC Chairman Michael Steele put out a statement
Steele thanks for your help in destroying the Republican party just keep saying those retarded statements I’m sure they’re part of your masterplan.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:12 pmBOOM! That’s the sound of the other shoe dropping on the GOP! Welcome aboard Senator Specter!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:12 pmabout time watchdog! we were beginning to think we’d actually have to LISTEN to Rush to get his point of view
what a blast it is to watch your party crumble!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pmSteele then claimed that “Specter didn’t leave the GOP based on principles of any kind,” but because he couldn’t win in the GOP primary “due to his left-wing voting record.”
You mean that Arlen wasn’t a puppet, and he thought for himself rather than listen to the 25 percenters of the nation and Rush…Right Micheal? Even if he loses, his soul is saved by leaving the increasingly narrowing darkside.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pmwatchdog Says:
And the little dog explodes! Scary left-wing blogs creating polarization in America — unlike scary right-wing blogs that are reasonable, sensible and loving. More comedy gold.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm#75 – ConservativeForProgress Says:
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“This makes the case for blaming the Democrats in 2010 even easier. Democrat President. Democrat House and Senate since 2006. Fillibuster proof in Senate since 2009. Democrat chairs of every committee. Nobody to blame but Democrats.”
April 28th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Funny, that’s what everyone was saying in 2000! “Are you better off in 2001 than you were in 1999?” No?!?! Yet Pres. Bush was able to scare the electorate and get elected in 2004.
It took a few years for his massive mis-handling of the economy to cause major economic problems, and by then it was too late for the American public to “vote him out”.
“Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.”
Republican Revolution 2010 — count on it.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pmIt’s already happening! More Republicans are changing to Independant than any other party!
As for Mr. “So what, I’m the President of the RNC” Steele, Brotha you about to get played, WORD!
RIP
April 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Shorter watchdog:
“WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!You libs are mean! Nobody likes me! I’m going go eat worms!WAAAAAAAH!”
And, just for the record watchdog, the colors of my flag don’t fade or run, you commie bastard!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pmOh I can see TYT already with Elbow from the SKYYYYYYYY
April 28th, 2009 at 1:14 pmwatchdog Says:
Buckie Boy Says:
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Only the very Anti-american sick and twisted people align themselves with Republican Party.
What a great show of ignorance! The amount of brain washing on the democrat side is very troubling. And these types of forums are pushing even more polarization in American society especially in politics. And this side sees it as a sign of progress.
The greatest down fall of this type of ideology is how much they underestimat the other side. This will not be prevalent until its gone to far. Enjoy bathing in tie-dyed pig shit, because remember all colors fade.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
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s/b “too”
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pmThis is political survival on Specters part. I live in PA and their is no way he will survive the Primary against Toomey. At least that is what the pudits beleive. I look at it this way, This is another nail in the Republican coffin. I hope they get a good Democratic challenger for the Primary. As far as I’m concerned, Specter has been in office far too long.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:15 pmFire-up the teleprompter, gang, and let’s get this party started!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:16 pmI hope he does not turn blue dog on us.I am still wondering why he does not support the EFCA, the card check system is as democratic as you can get you basically do the same thing when you register to vote and you can find out what party a person belongs to it`s not hard, so please tell me what is so wrong with EFCA and getting unionized and having health care, decent wages,work safety rules that every one agrees to through a CBA.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:16 pmI dissagree Uncle Ho, I think they’ve been driven underground or, like Specter, switched parties or become independents. I think they exist, I know a few here in Colorado but they’re like an endangered species. Very rare and hard to find.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pmlol, i switched over to FOX “news” to hear the wailing, all they can talk about is the plane over NYC story from yesterday
HA ha!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:17 pmok, now FOX “news” is going to have Karl Rove on to talk about Specter – this ought to be good!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:18 pmI think we can all agree that a guy who switches parties is a guy we can trust.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pmLet’s hope this is the beginning of another major realignment.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pmAh, I see Watchmutt has commenced his flyby and dropped his turd bomb on this thread. Now, where’s reality check and proud moron?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:19 pmI’m sure you meant Democrat’s side and that was just a typo. Careful there watchpup your blood pressure seems to be skyrocketing. Why don’t you do like your hero Rush and ignore this topic and concentrate on the jet flying over NYC yesterday. Teehee.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pmFurther proof of the repub party careening towards extremism.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pmThat is the central meme here, not the individual news about Specter (or even Snowe or Collins if they should decide to switch also).
Great news, no matter what. This will have a huge psychological effect.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:21 pmRove just lied about Specter , claiming he was a “lifelong Republican”, ignoring that he changed from Democrat to Republican in 1966
April 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pmRantingTommy Says:
lol, i switched over to FOX “news” to hear the wailing, all they can talk about is the plane over NYC story from yesterday
And all crafted to make it sound like the flyover was personally ordered by Obama, or at minimum, one of his closest staff members. Frickin’ tools.
What I want to know is, why do FauxNews stories always show up at the top of GoogleNews lists?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:25 pmI’m not sure we should get too excited about this. At best Specter will be a Blue Dog Democrat. On the other hand, if he doesn’t support the Obama Administration, I doubt that the Democratic party is going to support him in 2010. This is going to be very interesting.
I also think now is the time for Harry Reid to seat Al Franken. I suspect that there are a couple of Republican senators who are really nervous at this point and they would probably vote to seat Franken to cut off the bad publicity the Republican’t party is getting form this fiasco.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:25 pmkeep whining, tracy, you pansy
watching you cowards whine is almost as much fun as watching the GOP implode
April 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pmwatchdog:
I guess Arlen decided to get on the bus for CHANGE rather than get runover by it.
Come on down Snowe and Collins!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pmGotta ask one more time:
How’s that “Permanent Majority” thingy working out for ya, KKKarl?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
Want to bet that Insean Vannity is going to implode and claim that Specter is drinking the Obama Kool-Aide and is brain washed?
Any takers?
No need, we’d all make the same bet, and be right. Rush said it in his first interview with Hannity after the election remember? I’m sure TP & MMFA will have plenty from ElRushbo on this tomorrow. Heck, maybe even right now.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pmTracy_5:
Girl don’t go away mad! Girl just go away!
April 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pmTracy__5 Says:
That’s been a known fact for some time now.
So tracy, what do you think about this. It looks like your beloved party is on it’s last legs.
From the recent WP/ABC Poll:
Do you approve or disapprove of the way (ITEM) are doing their job?
Republicans in Congress:
Approve/Disapprove/No Opinion
4/24/09 30 64 6
2/22/09 38 56 6
How much confidence do you have in [ITEM] to make the right decisions for the country’s future – a great deal of confidence, a good amount, just some or none at all?
Republicans in Congress
Net/Great Deal/Good Amount/Just Some/None at all/No opinion
4/24/09 21 4 16 78 50 28 2
1/16/09 29 8 21 69 49 21 2
Generally speaking, do you usually think of yourself as (a Democrat), (a Republican), an independent or what? IF NOT DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN: Do you lean more towards the (Democratic Party) or (Republican Party)?
Democrat /Republican /Independent /Other /No op./Lean Dem./Lean Rep. /No Lean
4/24/09 35 21 38 5 * 18 16 10
3/29/09 36 25 33 5 1 15 16 8
If I were the Republicans I would be very worried at this point. They are losing in approval ratings for their members in Congress (8% in the last two months) and they are losing people who identify themselves as a Republican (4% in the last month alone).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_042609.html
April 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pmgummble-bee-itch Says:
What I want to know is, why do FauxNews stories always show up at the top of GoogleNews lists?
Because they pay Google good money to make it happen.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:29 pmlol.
Seriously though I know some in here are talking about how bad he is or how they’d like to replace him but think about it.
Our democracy is not a bunch of people who think alike.
Our democracy is a bunch of people who think differently, but are able to work together for the greater good. Is Specter just what everyone wants? Of course not. But he’s switching camps and we should not only be thankful for that, but we need to ENCOURAGE such decisions by republicans.
Driving him off, calling him names, threatening to replace him as soon as possible, ….these are not methods for enticing defectors from the enemies camp.
These are methods for discouraging defection, something the left is good at.
We haven’t learned to be gracious in victory yet, nor have we learned to reach across the isle like President Obama does, and WORK with those with whom we disagree.
We see that here today with the responses to Specters defection, and we see it whenever someone from the enemy camp decides to defect. Look at how people in here treated Scott McClellan when he spoke out against the Bush administration.
Everyone trashed him, which didn’t do much to encourage other members of the Bush camp to speak up.
We need to learn to stop being emotional and vindictive and start being smart strategically. Keith Olberman understands this, and he’s now embraced McClellan as an asset.
Being smart strategically means encouraging defection from the enemies ranks. This weakens them and strengthens us.
Insulting defectors and being unwelcoming does little more than discourage others from joining their ranks. I say welcome him. The President did, and so should we.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:29 pm106. Scottsdalian Says: I slightly disagree. This poll told Specter that a nutjob is leading in the polls of fellow nutjob voters.
Self-preservation? Sure. But better than self-immolation from sticking with his suicidal party.
Actually, I think it’s purely self-interest. Specter is realizing his funding is limited for the primary since he has a very threatening challenge for the republican primary. Since Pennsylvania is listed as a “toss-up” state for 2010 in many pollsters analysis, this is a way for Specter to more likely retain a Senate job, with funding for the primary and general election via the Dems.
He certainly doesn’t want to join the ranks of unemployed….not in the economy his incompetent party created; Not just ‘no,’ but ‘hell, no.’
April 28th, 2009 at 1:29 pmI am truly shocked at the number of people saying this is good news based on nothing more than it is a hit against the right. Seriously people…what are we gaining here? A 60 vote majority? Technically we don’t NEED a 60 vote majority to pass a bill, just for cloture, and we will have trouble with that anyway thanks to all the DINO’s in office who vote Republican time after time. Why would Specter change this process at all?
And it is equally troubling that nobody cares about seeing true progressive change and policies enacted in the country. No…better to just be happy that Republicans are abandoning their sinking ship like rats. But why do we want fiarweather rats on OUR ship?
If we truly want to reclaim the system, and bring America into a new progressive era, then it isn’t find to just accept the defeat of the right. Especially if it means the democracts continue their crawl to the right themselves. We need to PUSH the Democrats back to the left and back to the party of liberal ideas and progressive politics. Jumping for joy over Republicans joining the party because it is has become “just right wing enough” to be considered an acceptable option is ludicrous. That only ensure the Democrats continue moving right, continue being a failure of a party that can’t get their act together, and continues enabling Republicans no matter how marginalized they are with US…the voting public.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pmI just stepped outside on this fine Pennsylvania day and could swear I heard a Fat Lady singing in the distance.
Buh bye, GNOP.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 1:30 pmGuess we should all break out the champagne like they are on Wall Street. So long to the progressive movement in this country. It lasted 99 days before the conservative Republicrats strangled it in its crib. Big Coal is happy for sure. The future looks so bright I gotta wear shades or maybe go the whole way and just get blinders.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pmTracy__5 Says:
“Want to bet that Insean Vannity is going to implode and claim that Specter is drinking the Obama Kool-Aide and is brain washed?”
That’s been a known fact for some time now.
I have never read a troll post referring to Specter as an “Obama Kool-Aide drinker”. Of course, you guys don’t post facts so, perhaps, this has been a fact. Wait, you just posted that it is a not just a fact but a known fact so it’s probably not a fact after all.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pmRush is so out of it he’s claiming that President Obama had to know where his jet was yesterday because he had to have been told that he couldn’t use it since it was going to be doing something else. AS IF they didn’t check his schedule to find when the plane was available instead of the other way around. Are the people who listen to him so stupid that they don’t see the problem with that argument? That’s rhetorical of course.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pmI welcome him to the Caucus, for now, and look forward to the day he loses the Democratic primary. Specter is a tool.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pmGOP
Gone
April 28th, 2009 at 1:32 pmOut of
Power
Tracy makes me think of this song, “She was looking kind of dumb with her finger and her thumb. In the shape of an “L” on her forehead.”
April 28th, 2009 at 1:33 pmLet the eagle soar…
April 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pmaww, Tracy, if Specter was a wimp, he’d still be a Republican
you GOP cowards think America is too weak to defeat terrorists without resorting to torture and war
what a bunch of weenie little cowards you are
April 28th, 2009 at 1:35 pmTracy is running scared, just like the rest of the Greedy Old Pussy party
April 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pmInteresting how Specter’s defection comes on the heels of a White House meeting Obama had last week with senior Congressional repubs.
It was reported that Obama gave the repubs a very clear ’shit or get off the pot’ speech about bipartisanship with Obama and Dems.
Not so clear, at least in the report that I read, was the repubs response back to Obama during this meeting.
Did Specter just give us a glimpse into the repub response to Obama???
April 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pmRepublicans are definitely going to whig out about this.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pmtracy needs a waaambulance, someone call whine wun wun
your tears are delicious, tracy
April 28th, 2009 at 1:37 pmWe need a 60 vote majority to break a republican filibuster so, we need a 60 vote majority to pass a bill that the republicans don’t want passed.
Will there be democrats who won’t get on board. It happens, sure. But we’re closer now.
It never fails to amaze me the level of juvenile bile and vindictive spite that abounds in here and elsewhere on the left, when it comes to a republican defector.
It seems so many on the far left would gladly cut off their own noses just to spite their face.
Being smart means putting aside the juvenile spite and emotions, and focusing on winning.
Of course Specter moving to the left doesn’t mean absolute victory.
But it’s a step that moves us that much closer.
We need to be smart enough to see that.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pmYes. Next question?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:39 pmtracy is having a hard time typing through the tears
April 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pmRush is calling for us to stop buying American cars now.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:40 pmHear, hear Rosencrantz at #170!
I would only qualify that this may have a psychological effect on mainstream America, and illustrate the increasing irrelevance/dissatisfaction with the GOP, and that just might serve progressive politics. But we always need to continue to push leftward, because the Democratic center has been slowly moved rightward.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:42 pmHere is a list of possible challengers to Specter’s dem primary bid. There are no confirmed candidates as far as I know, which confirms, for me, the idea that Specter is being shrewd and using the wide-open circumstance and name recognition to go to the head of the line and get funding from the dems to retain a Senate job without having to hemorrhage money in a republican primary fight.
Specter wants to keep his Senate job and benefits. Nothing more than that and certainly, to me, no ideological revelation.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pmmaybe you right wing sissies can invite them to your tea teabagging parties
typical for a right wing coward to be scared of strong diplomacy. you’re like an elephant afraid of a mouse, stomping everything in your panic – IOW – a pansy
April 28th, 2009 at 1:44 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
Rush is so out of it he’s claiming that President Obama had to know where his jet was yesterday because he had to have been told that he couldn’t use it since it was going to be doing something else. AS IF they didn’t check his schedule to find when the plane was available instead of the other way around. Are the people who listen to him so stupid that they don’t see the problem with that argument? That’s rhetorical of course.
There is more than one Air Force One and from what I heard yesterday, this plane is actually the backup. Rush has nothing, as usual, but it’s a really loud nothing.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:45 pmTracy__5 Says:
“aww, Tracy, if Specter was a wimp, he’d still be a Republican”
Again being spineless that he is Specter had found a good fit.
“you GOP cowards think America is too weak to defeat terrorists without resorting to torture and war”
I guess we will let Obama talk nice to them and invite them over to meet his family for a party.
Wow – you have gotten dumber over the past few months.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:48 pmgummble, you know that GOP sissies are scared to death of facts
April 28th, 2009 at 1:49 pmWatching the GOP implode is almost as enjoyable as watching Obama fix Bush’s mess
April 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pmLeave tracy alone, it has a rash on it’s face from scrotum stubble…
April 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pmTracy blurts:
Again being spineless that he is Specter had found a good fit.
Somebody help me out here, the words look English, but the syntax and structure is alien to me. Who here speaks “dumb”? Anyone?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pmWell specter started his political career as a democrat…
April 28th, 2009 at 1:50 pmcaller to ed:
i wonder how long it will take for LIEberman to go back to the repugs…
they’ll do about anything to woo him at this point… think?
good call, lady… we’ll see…
April 28th, 2009 at 1:51 pmI think Tracy was trying to say that Specter finally got a spine and therefore did not fit in the GOP anymore
April 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pmTracy__5 Says:
I guess we will let Obama talk nice to them and invite them over to meet his family for a party.
Jeez, you are a ninny.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pmActually, tracy, you GOP pansy, it was Republicans that first used the “teabagging” term, which is why we keep making fun of you for it.
And some of us still believe that America is strong enough to defeat terrorists without resorting to torture and war.
Why do you think America is so weak? Is it because YOU are so weak?
April 28th, 2009 at 1:55 pmTracy__5 Says:
Only you lefties would know what teabagging is considering that Tea Parties prompted you to think to associate the term
OUCH! What a barbed remark!!
Only righties would pick a rather embarrassing double entendre without thinking twice out of pure ignorance.
Nyah nyah nynyah nyahhhhhhh
April 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pmTracy is still scared of terrorists. Too funny. What a pansy little coward. Typical Republican.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:56 pmTracy___5:
Kissing ass is not stong diplomacy.
Nor is launching an illegal war. Nope, that ain’t strong at all…
April 28th, 2009 at 1:57 pmY Tracy – The way Obama “kissed those pirates’ asses” probably has all the terrorists hopes wayyy up.
Hysterical Ninny.
April 28th, 2009 at 1:58 pmTracy is having lots of typos, it must be hard to type while quivering in fear
April 28th, 2009 at 2:00 pmTracy__5 Says:
Since Obama’s been in office I see the terrorists licking their chops at an opportunity.
What the hell are you tripping on? Peyote? Mescaline?
Are you trying to prove my point that your trolling has gotten more idiotic as your party falls farther and farther to the wayside?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:02 pmThis is not particularly good news, actually.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:03 pmSpecter was going to lose the Reep primary next year to a true bonehead who could not win the general, and we could have had a real Democrat in that seat. Now we have another Lieberman who cares nothing about loyalty, principle or the voters and is willing to do anything to keep his seat.
Sure, we win today’s news cycle. Hooray. But it’s six years of headaches after that.
Tracy__5 Says:
No, he lost his spine therefore he is switching. Someone’s got to prop up the has been.
Tracy sees terrorists licking their chops and sees Spector’s detached spinal column crawling around DC. Seriously, what kind of drugs are you taking?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:04 pmrbloom Says:
Sure, we win today’s news cycle. Hooray. But it’s six years of headaches after that.
That’s leaping to the conclusion that he would win a primary against a legitimately Democratic candidate, don’t you think?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:04 pmSince Obama’s been in office the entire world doesn’t hate us and the terrorists don’t have recruitment propaganda from the torture.
I’m suspicious of Specter but as long as have another Dem it works for me. We’ll see what happens.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pmHe’s also got Pakistan helping him “kiss” Taliban ass, by way of artillery barrage.
I’ll bet that sounds like “appeasement” to you, Tracy, because you learned what that word means from Brian Kilmeade rather than from a dictionary.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pmpoor little tracy, wrong so often, scared always
Tracy has let Dick CHeney terrorize him into thinking America is too weak to defeat other terrorists without resorting to freaking out and flailing about
April 28th, 2009 at 2:05 pmTracy__5 Says:
No we just assumed that normal people would not try to skew the subject matter. Again only those with experience in the matter of “tea baggin” would actually think of it while discussing the events of political rally.
Laughable! Tracy talking about not skewing an issue!!!
Your use of the blanket assumption that to simply know what “teabagging” refers to one must have experience is pretty freaking stupid as well.
You keep outdoing yourself!
April 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pmHey Tracy – Another wingnut shot up some cops recently, down in FL.
Does that count as “heroism” in your book?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pmApparently, Tracist has a different definition of “known fact” than the rest of us.
Not that it comes as a surprise, mind you.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pmShorter Tracy: when something good happens, Obama is not involved, but when something bad happens, it is Obama’s sole responsibility
Typical partisan silliness from the sissy little coward troll
April 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pmTracy__5 Says:
Yeah as if Obama pondered the BS “formal” decision that was already made anyway and he just went along with it!
This post from Tracy, again, lacks clarity. WTF are you trying to say here? Gawd, you’re awful at this.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:07 pmTracy’s not very good at this fact thing. Now wild speculation…
April 28th, 2009 at 2:08 pmThey are scared, but not as scared as you.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:09 pmHey Tracy: BOO!!
now go change your pants, you smell
April 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pmspin, spin, spin, little dancer…
April 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pmTracist is racking up some series McCain McBuck™ points on this thread.
Enjoy that McCain ‘08 beer cozy, buddy!
April 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pmTracy__5 Says:
No we just assumed that normal people would not try to skew the subject matter. Again only those with experience in the matter of “tea baggin” would actually think of it while discussing the events of political rally.
Nice attempt to cover up your own ignorance, Twacy. I know what “skydiving” means and I’ve never jumped out of a plane.
Actually, not so much covering up ignorance as reveling in it, like so many “conservatives.”
April 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pm“…voters next year will have a clear choice to cast their ballots for a potentially unbridled Democrat super-majority versus the system of checks-and-balances that Americans deserve.”
Did you say that when Karl Rove decried his Republican Super-Permanent Ultra Majority? Or were you silent and on board for it all the way?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:10 pmTracy__5 Says:
#218
“Seriously, what kind of drugs are you taking?”
Seriously you actually think that the terrorists are now really scared?
Like, scared enough to suicide bomb a market? WTF are you even saying? How was Bush scaring them? He helped them recruit and helped field train them!
You are so simple and lame it is almost sad.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pmShorter John Cornyn: “Republican ideology is toxic; the only way to salvage your political career is to abandon the Republican party”
April 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pmAh Tracy, the Rambo Architect. Why hasn’t Hollywood adapted your heroic life to film yet?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:11 pmTracy is upset that the terrorists’ recruiting posters featuring George Bush are not effective anymore.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pmupdated 7:47 a.m. PT, Tues., April 28, 2009
RAWALPINDI, Pakistan – Pakistani jets and attack helicopters bombed Taliban positions in a district near the capital Tuesday, the military said, in an expansion of an offensive against militants seemingly emboldened by a much-criticized peace deal.
Troops and heavy artillery also joined the operation in Buner, which follows urgent calls from the United States for Islamabad to step up its fight against the militants, who moved into the region this month from the nearby Swat Valley. They set up checkpoints, patrolled streets and warned locals to abide by strict interpretations of Islam.
The offensive will cause major strains on an already shaky peace deal in the Malakand region, to which Buner belongs. The truce has been widely viewed in the West as a surrender to militants seen as slowly expanding their grip over the nuclear-armed nation.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:12 pmTracy, we could understand you better if you’d stop being teabagged long enough to speak in complete sentences
April 28th, 2009 at 2:13 pmTracy__5 Says:
Seriously you actually think that the terrorists are now really scared?
Oh yes. I’m sure suicide bombers were scared with Bush… so scared they stopped killing people and surrendered.
OH WAIT. THEY DIDN’T.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:14 pmTracy never answered why he thinks America is so weak
April 28th, 2009 at 2:15 pmThankfully, though, not too simple to be funny.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:16 pmTracy__5 Says:
#222
“He’s also got Pakistan helping him “kiss” Taliban ass, by way of artillery barrage.”
You actually think Pakistan is helping?
You are one bizarre little creature.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pmMost suicidal maniac terrorists watch C-Span. David Addington says so.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pmTracy, no one is going to take you seriously with Cheney’s balls in your mouth
April 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pmTracy__5 Says:
For those on the left to equate the term “tea baggin” with Tea Parties, i.e. to think about it in the first place, is totally indicative of the mindset of those who used the term in this particular context….athough I thought Maddow I was actually above it unlike Overbite.
Nice try. It was the teabaggers themselves that used the term, eejit.
And you obviously missed this.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:17 pmSpencers mom #119 thanks i didn`t know about 660,000 that switched. I agree, even though most went over to independent progress is progress.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:18 pmRick Santorum’s disappointed? Well, damn. He’s so well-respected… maybe Specter should rethink?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:20 pmWhatever else you might think about this situation, you should read Specter’s whole statement. It is just pathetic in its lame attempt to suggest that the only reason he is doing this is for Pennsylvania and America. It has nothing to do with his desire to maintain office, oh no. Just revoltingly dishonest. This guy is a lifetime pol and he is trying to save his own political neck, as if 30 years in the Senate is not enough. All this story tells me is that term limits for Senators and Congressmen would be a major boon to the democratic process, but hell, we know that will never happen. I hope whoever runs against him in the Dem primary creams him.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:20 pmI love it!
That’s what happens when you pander to the amerikan taliban (aka religious right).
GOP, the lunatic fringe. GO FCUK YOURSELVES!
April 28th, 2009 at 2:21 pmAnd by “terrorists” you mean Dick Cheney right? I think he an Rumsfeld are already working on it. They didn’t make enough money on the Iraq debacle so the constructed the swine flu pandemic. It’s really pissing Cheney off that nobody in the US has died yet.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pmThe very funniest part of the extremely-short-lived Teabagger craze was the fact that no one involved had the vaguest understanding of what the original event in Boston was all about.
Evidently science isn’t the only thing Righties have no knowledge of.
Particularly ironic a bunch of self-styled patriots are so completely ignorant of American History.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:22 pmIt’s spelled Dick Chainy.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pmTracy__5 Says:
For those on the left to equate the term “tea baggin” with Tea Parties, i.e. to think about it in the first place, is totally indicative of the mindset of those who used the term in this particular context….athough I thought Maddow I was actually above it unlike Overbite.
This doesn’t make your assumption that to know what tea-bagging can mean indicates personal experience on the part of the person making use of the more ribald definition any less stupid.
Furthermore, “what it really means” missed the mark on these modern day demonstrations.
Colonists objected to the Tea Act for a variety of reasons, especially because they believed that it violated their constitutional right to be taxed only by their own elected representatives.
Last I checked, Obama is the elected President of the United States.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:24 pmKeltoi at Night Says:
Whatever else you might think about this situation, you should read Specter’s whole statement. It is just pathetic in its lame attempt to suggest that the only reason he is doing this is for Pennsylvania and America. It has nothing to do with his desire to maintain office, oh no. Just revoltingly dishonest.
Maybe you’d like to write that speech for him. “I’ve decided to switch parties because the wingnuts in my state are about to kick me out anyway, and this is the only chance I’ve got.”
Boy, yeah, that sounds like a lifetime politician to me.
Maybe you prefer the Michael Steele version, referring to Specter’s “far-left” political views.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:26 pmWell maybe it was the TEABAGS hanging from their heads that made us equate tea bagging with tea parties. OR, maybe because we’re adults we know the euphemisms adults use.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:30 pmIm going to lower my standards tonight and watch Beck and Hannity, im sure its going to be comical to see how they spin the crap out of this one. Any other of my fellow libs plan on watching? Even though you can use your time in a more productive manner.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pm——————————————————————————–
gummble-bee-itch Says:
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Keltoi at Night Says:
Whatever else you might think about this situation, you should read Specter’s whole statement. It is just pathetic in its lame attempt to suggest that the only reason he is doing this is for Pennsylvania and America. It has nothing to do with his desire to maintain office, oh no. Just revoltingly dishonest.
Maybe you’d like to write that speech for him. “I’ve decided to switch parties because the wingnuts in my state are about to kick me out anyway, and this is the only chance I’ve got.”
Boy, yeah, that sounds like a lifetime politician to me.
I have been away a while…is this gummitch? Seems like lots of old timers have tweaked their names for some reason.
I can’t say I am shocked he is a lying prostitute, but it is still maddening that he thinks anyone is going to believe such drivel. Lieberman gets castigated for using such language, and I think it is equally lame when someone switching in the other direction does it too.
But they are all whores. What is new?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:31 pmTracist__5 Says:
No we just assumed that normal people would not try to skew the subject matter. Again only those with experience in the matter of “tea baggin” would actually think of it while discussing the events of political rally.
Depends on if you’re the one tea baggin’, or the one being tea bagged.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:34 pmThe way you mumble jumble you sentences to make incoherent posts, I gotta believe you’re the one with a mouthful.
You salty dog, you!
It’s funny… now that Specter has switched party, the GNOP talking point is “fine, we didn’t want him anyway and he can’t come to my birthday party!” but when pro-choice Lieberman was talking about making the switch if it would benefit him, they all embraced Lyin’ Joe like the second coming.
I wonder what happened to Rove’s permanent Republican majority?
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 2:36 pmYou’re not very well schooled in logic, are ya, Trace? Either that or you figure that everyone has the same limited imagination that you do.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:37 pmHonestly, i don’t trust Arlen Specter. The democratic party should embrace him now to demoralize the GOP and pass some of the bills that he will help with. But in the next election, the democratic party should bring in a more progressive senator.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:38 pmsscncturn64 Says:
Im going to lower my standards tonight and watch Beck and Hannity, im sure its going to be comical to see how they spin the crap out of this one. Any other of my fellow libs plan on watching?
No, I can’t watch. I have a weak stomach and don’t want to hurl my dinner. Please let us know just how hard Beck cries because he *sob* loves his *sob* country so *sob* much.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pmbut for you not to recognize the BS way it was used in regards to the recent Tea Party political rallies I guess is par for the course with you guys.
You couldn’t recognize political commentary? What “tea-bagging” means in the political sense, is the way righties tried to co-op an American historical act for their own selfish purpose, and were revealed as shills – read teabaggers – for lobbyists.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pmTracist__5 Says:
No we just assumed that normal people would not try to skew the subject matter.
Hahhhahhhhhaaaahhh…this…Haahhhaahhahah…from the…hahahhaa…master…oh,haha…skewer…haaahhhahahah
April 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pmKeltoi, many of us tweaked our names in order to embrace the characterization of TP that Bill O’Reilly made recently that we were all “insects”.
Kind of like when many of us adopted “Hussein” as part of our screen names during the campaign in response to the right-wing insistence on identifying Obama that way.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:39 pmTeabagging is as old as time itself.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pm—————————————
Stop it… I can’t breathe… laughing… too much…
April 28th, 2009 at 2:40 pmKeltoi, many of us tweaked our names in order to embrace the characterization of TP that Bill O’Reilly made recently that we were all “insects”.
And some of us were always a little buggy.
Posers. ;)
April 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pmWow! 265 posts and counting …… I see the trolls have checked in.
ConservativeForProgress
STFU and go crawl back into your hole. The GOP revolution is over. Here are some helpful steps for you to consider dealing with your grief. The sooner you get over it the grief better you and your family will be:
7 Stages of Grief…
1. SHOCK & DENIAL (We lost! It can’t be true!)
April 28th, 2009 at 2:43 pm2. PAIN & GUILT (Ouch! A Black Dem in office?! What did we do wrong?!)
(You’re are about here now)
3. ANGER & BARGAINING (Obama is Hitler! Oh, We might be OK with those gays marring now.)
4. “DEPRESSION”, REFLECTION, LONELINESS (Getting a little depressed I’m sure.)
5. THE UPWARD TURN (NOPE! Not yet!)
6. RECONSTRUCTION & WORKING THROUGH (NOPE! Not yet!)
7. ACCEPTANCE & HOPE (NOPE! Not yet!)
Tracy__5 Says:
#236
“Nice attempt to cover up your own ignorance, Twacy. I know what “skydiving” means and I’ve never jumped out of a plane.”
I knew what the term “tea baggin” ment, but for you not to recognize the BS way it was used in regards to the recent Tea Party political rallies I guess is par for the course with you guys. Again only those with experience would have thought of it.
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s/b “meant”
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April 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pmMy, but I’ll bet the republicans drop this obstructionist tactic they been employing since Obama took office, and suddenly start acting all collegial again, the little weasels.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:44 pmbarfly Says:
My, but I’ll bet the republicans drop this obstructionist tactic they been employing since Obama took office, and suddenly start acting all collegial again, the little weasels.
Well, that would be the smart tack to take in such waters, but I’d bet they choose to double down on obstruction instead. I guess they see the voting populace as still being as gullible as they were during the Bush era.
PEACE
April 28th, 2009 at 2:47 pmYeah I see those types of attacks have picked up in Iraq in the last 100 days.
Bush’s Continuing Clusterf uck will be paying dividends for the next decade.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:47 pmCornyn is speaking of checks and balances. What a total hypocrite. Never have any of the Republican losers, even as winners ever given a thought to balance.
The last administration could not spell balance. Not a whiff of balance or oversight or anything else THE AMERICAN PUBLIC DESERVES. I guess we did not deserve it when they were in power. Now all of the sudden Cornyn says we do. Well, well.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:48 pmI’ll also wager they quit carping about budget reconciliation, now that we’re FILIBUSTER-PROOF.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:49 pmS’matter Tracist__5?
Specter leave a bad taste in your mouth?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(I crack myself up)
April 28th, 2009 at 2:50 pmOnce again, for our very slow friend:
Sound them out Tracy, there are some big words in there, I know.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:51 pmS’matter Tracist__5?
Specter leave a bad taste in your mouth?
He’s got hooker-breath, and none of his closeted clientele will go near him.
Hint: Buy some Tic-Tacs.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:53 pmEeeew, I feel a little dirty with Specter in the house….I can still smell the Republican all over him….I think this is one of Dick Cheney’s evil plots…..if I were Specter I would go to the hospital immediately and have a Democrat blood transfusion ASAP.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:54 pmHi Spencers Mom, I will let you know what the two clowns have to say. I used to get sick watching Hannity but i watched a little at a time to build up immunity. I like to watch the two clowns because to me its comedy, the crap they spew is pathetic. To top it off theres people that acctually believe it.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:55 pmThere is nothing to celebrate about Specter’s “conversion” if you are a liberal. He has already confirmed his commitment to oppose EFCA, including cloture. On what issues will he now vote with Democrats that he was unwilling to do as a Republican. What will come of his seat on the Senate Judiciary Committee? He will obviously be replaced by another Republican so will Democrats boot one of their current members to make room for him? He has carried too much water for Bush (Supreme Court nominees, opposed investigations of abuses in the DoJ and other areas of Bush admin) to be trusted on this important committee even as a Dem. This is a symbolic and possibly politically calculated move on the part of Specter. It wouldn’t surprise me if outrage being expressed by conservatives right now is only part of the ruse. The right has a good record of winning by first creating the appearance that they are losing on an issue and Specter was often a key player in running this tack.
In case nobody has noticed, 60 members does not a filibuster-proof majority make unless it is Republican. Democrats lack the institutional discipline of our counterparts and therefore require at least 65 members and likely closer to 70 members to reach cloture on much of anything.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:55 pmNow Tracy is blaming President Obama for the clusterphuck that is Iraq. Typical.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:56 pmThey didn’t bring up the term in the first place.
And that’s the funny part. That these culturally-backward folks would try to co-opt a cherished American historical event, and not realize that terminology might be sexually ambiguous. Did they wear their rubbers, in case it rained?
Heh, heh.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:57 pmWell then I guess instead of bringing teabags to DC they should have brought bulk tea. Or were they trying to be authentic and thought they had teabags at the Boston Tea Party?
April 28th, 2009 at 2:58 pmre: #187
Sure, we need a 60 vote majority, but this sure as hell isn’t the way to do it. Why not just run some ACTUAL PROGRESSIVES to gain seats. Instead, the Democrats have committed (according to their own statements) to supporting getting someone re-elected in a Dem seat, who does not stand for ANY of the core Democratic party values. Why do we want such a person on “our side”? What good does it do US, the people, who make up the country and are begging for the country to get back on the right track, if we simply rename REpublicans and stick them in the party?
A 60 vote majority? Bulls**t. If the Democrats are so worried about bringing their bills to a vote, then maybe JUST ONCE, they should have had the balls to call Republicans on their bluff and FORCE them to fillibuster for once. Instead, they give in again and again and again. Or maybe the Dems should be taking every single opportunity they have to label the right as the obstructionist party obstructing democracy and the will of the people. After all, that’s what happened to them the second they didn’t rubber tamp Bush’s policies.
Or maybe, just maybe, they shouldn;t have been so eagre to pass right wing written bills instead of bills written by their own party. Or maybe, just maybe, they shouldn’t have constantly honoured anonymous holds by Republicans while ignoring the exact same process from their own people.
No, this 60 vote thing is an excuse. And frankly, considering Specters voting record and REPUBLICAN BELIEFS which he maintains even now as a future Dem, I see no reason to jump for joy at this announcement. Instead all I see is the Dems lining up to support another insider who is going to vote against every REAL Democratic policy anyway. There is NOTHING to gain here for us, the people wanting progressive policies. Specter is going to be another blue-dog DINO who constantly votes in block with Republicans and sabatoges progressive policies.
Sorry, but no. This is ridiculous and an exercise in Democratic self-inflicted futility. Better off putting time, energy and money into getting REAL progressives elected instead of Republican operatives.
April 28th, 2009 at 2:59 pmThe biggest test for Specter’s conversion:
If he disses Limbaugh and doesn’t apologize!
(crowd noise:) “Oooooooooohhhhh!”
April 28th, 2009 at 3:07 pmTracy__5 Says:
Again only those with experience would have thought of it.
Again, only an utter fool would think this is a reasonable conclusion to draw.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:13 pmOH hell no!
He’s a repug just like lieberman.
He’s switching because he knew he couldn’t win as a repug.
I hate these fakeass dems.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pmTracy__5 Says:
#259
“This doesn’t make your assumption that to know what tea-bagging can mean indicates personal experience on the part of the person making use of the more ribald definition any less stupid.”
Explain why idiots like Olbermann and Cooper thought to use it then?
Have you teabagged them or received a teabag from them? How do you know their teabagging experience level?
April 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm>>>
trace,
you sound angry, bitter and frustrated.
you’re not going to hurt yourself, are you?
:|
we are (all of us) concerned.
:\
April 28th, 2009 at 3:20 pmTracy__5 Says:
#261
“Well maybe it was the TEABAGS hanging from their heads that made us equate tea bagging with tea parties.”
Sick minded adults.
***
yes.
;<|
April 28th, 2009 at 3:24 pmTracy__5 Says:
#265
“Depends on if you’re the one tea baggin’, or the one being tea bagged.”
For normal people we would have not thought of that term in that context, but then again certain people’s mind are always in the gutter.
***
you seem obsessed with
this “tea bagging” concept.
why is that?
;<|
April 28th, 2009 at 3:26 pmTracy__5 Says:
#267
“Trace? Either that or you figure that everyone has the same limited imagination that you do.”
Again only those with a sick imagination would have thought of it.
***
and yet you can’t stop thinking of it.
*
April 28th, 2009 at 3:27 pmwatchdog: Feeling fear? Fear stands for:
F uck
E verything
A nd
R un
I suggest you start “running”. N. Korea is calling you!
April 28th, 2009 at 3:28 pmTracist apparently doesn’t believe in the principles of representative democracy unless HIS views are represented in the majority.
Nor does he recognize that either the teabaggers was a large gathering of the top 5% of earners in the nation, or a lot of teabaggers were protesting higher taxes that they weren’t gonna pay. So I guess they were protesting that people who make a lot more money than they do will be paying more in taxes. That’s awfully sporting of them.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:30 pmTracy__5 Says:
#270
“is the way righties tried to co-op an American historical act for their own selfish purpose”
Selfish? Protesting putting their children’s lives in perpetual debt with high taxes their entire life is selfish?
***
you worry about children?
“”"
April 28th, 2009 at 3:31 pmYou’re right, Tracist. Much better to put their children’s lives in perpetual debt the proper way: launch unnecessary wars and borrow from the Chinese to pay for them.
That’s much more patriotic.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:32 pmTracy__5 Says:
#271
“Hahhhahhhhhaaaahhh…this…Haahhhaahhahah…from the…hahahhaa…master…oh,haha…skewer…haaahhhahahah”
And you call yourself a Christian? Now that’s funny.
***
on a day like today
it’s good that you can laugh.
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pmWhat in this comment leads to to judge the poster unChristian?
April 28th, 2009 at 3:33 pmTracy__5 Says:
#283
“Bush’s Continuing Clusterf uck will be paying dividends for the next decade.”
And ten fold with the new POTUS.
***
joe the plumber or
bobby jindal?
trace, republicans have
a tough choice don’t they?
:)
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pmsuch a
petty
provocateur
your 3 strikes elapsed about 4 hours ago Tracy,
yet you stand there flailing with that bat,
why?
April 28th, 2009 at 3:34 pmI think it’s because on strike two he smacked himself in the head with the bat and hasn’t had full control of his faculties since. And he’s so entertaining that we just keep lobbing him pitches.
I’m kind of hoping he does and America’s Favorite Home Videos number and hits himself in the nuts with the Louisville Slugger.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:37 pmTracy__5 Says:
#289
“Sound them out Tracy, there are some big words in there, I know.”
They acted out of pure pressure by the WH, pure and simple…it won’t last.
***
good mantra.
;0
April 28th, 2009 at 3:38 pmFolks, Tracy_5 has successfully hijacked this thread.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:42 pmAgain… again… saying it doesn’t make it so, Tracist.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:45 pmStatement from NRSC Chairman John Cornyn (R-TX): “Senator Specter’s decision today represents the height of political self-preservation. While this presents a short-term disappointment, voters next year will have a clear choice to cast their ballots for a potentially unbridled Democrat super-majority versus the system of checks-and-balances that Americans deserve.”
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You gotta be kidding me. Would Cornyn like some cheese with his whine? How much concern for “checks-and-balances”, may I ask, did the Republican-majority 108th and 109th Congresses demonstrate? Not a lot, as far as I could tell — in fact, they did just about everything they possibly could to neuter and steamroll the Democrats — so now when the tables have turned and the Democrats hold the majority, why should they have to be concerned over something which you didn’t seem to think was a priority when you were the ones in control? What a spoiled, hypocritical little crybaby…
April 28th, 2009 at 3:45 pmTwo parties one policy system is not Democracy!
April 28th, 2009 at 3:49 pmSpecter once! Specter twice! Holy Jumping Jesus Christ! That’s good news!
Come on Franken! Join the party and let’s kick these Repugnants to the curb.
I see that Tracie has derailed the thread with her teabag obsession. I haven’t gone back to read all the comments, did she go off on her Olberman obsession yet?
April 28th, 2009 at 3:49 pmWell shit the bed, Tracie’s panties are in a bunch now aren’t they? Is that moistness from fear Tracie dearest, or are you just damp from thinking of Olberman?
April 28th, 2009 at 3:51 pm“lowjacked” is what we call it when Tracy pops in….
there are so few of them who come to visit these days,
it’s nice to have a pal with a big bold EVERLAST logo on his forehead stop by.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:54 pmPoor Tracy, it really sux to be him.
April 28th, 2009 at 3:55 pmTracy__5 Says:
“you worry about children?”
Yes unlike yourself for if you did you would be so inclined to take Obama’s spending as some sort of beneficial gift.
***
how democrats have become
republicans since you started
posting here today?
:)
how are you helping your party?
:::
April 28th, 2009 at 4:05 pmIf Specter wants to turn on the Reichwingnuts, we should welcome him with open arms and enlist his aid in getting a progressive Democrat elected to the seat he now holds. After all, he has not earned the loyalty of the progressive movement yet. He has his work cut out for him if he wants to participate again. You don’t get the top job if you are known to betray your party, and he’s done it twice. Perhaps a few years of Democratic fundraising and community service would bring some of his views more in line with the Democratic way of thinking.
I do not trust Republicans.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pmThe RNC helps to fund reelections …..
Mike Steele is the chairman of the RNC …..
Defect, baby, defect!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pmTracy__5 Says:
“Again, only an utter fool would think this is a reasonable conclusion to draw.”
Explain why those who thought those dangling tea bags reminded them and set off their perverted sexual fantasies.
Still doesn’t prove any teabagging experience. Especially damaging to your stupid assertion is the fact you just labeled it all as fantasy.
Hint: fantasy does not imply real
April 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pmTracy__5:
Loves teabagging and teabaggers!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pmAnd yet you keep swinging and missing.
That also counts as a strike, tracist.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:08 pmrepublicans hate facts Says
April 28th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Please flag Tracist. His whining and b!tching about his teabagging buddies is just derailing the thread.
_________________________________________________________
I’m ready to flag BOTH of you. You are sounding every bit as juvenile as he/she is. And the blame for trashing this thread can be split between the two of you.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:09 pmTracy__5 is a dyed-in-the-wool teabagger!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:09 pmI think Tracist was sent here to spew crap and stalk this site by Bill-O.
Tracist, how much is Bill-O paying you?
April 28th, 2009 at 4:10 pmDefect, baby defect!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:11 pmFrom where I sit I see some progressives responding to a wimpy troll who is so upset she has to respond to as many posts as she can. That must come from the lack of troll traffic in general.
The general lack of troll traffic must be caused by most of the trolls being too involved licking their wounds while trying to figure out what is happening to their party.
It must really suck being a republiscum apologist today.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:11 pmTracy__5 Says:
“Want to bet that Insean Vannity is going to implode and claim that Specter is drinking the Obama Kool-Aide and is brain washed?”
That’s been a known fact for some time now.
When the vast majority of the country believes something and can provide rational explanations for what they believe, it’s not them who are brainwashed by crazy people. Reflect on this.
.
Tracy__5 Says:
“you GOP cowards think America is too weak to defeat terrorists without resorting to torture and war”
I guess we will let Obama talk nice to them and invite them over to meet his family for a party.
The fact that you can only see those two options is all the demonstration we need that your kind are not qualified to deal with the issue in any way.
.
hanshiro the antlion Says:
Specter wants to keep his Senate job and benefits. Nothing more than that and certainly, to me, no ideological revelation.
One of the cool things about stable democracy is it doesn’t matter why a politician does something. Most of the time, the shrewd decision is also the right decision.
It doesn’t matter if Specter is worried aobut what his party believes in and wants to be on the side of reason. It doesn’t matter if Specter sees that some psycho yahoo is going to take him out in his next primary and thinks he could get Dems to see him as a responsible moderate.
It amounts to the same thing either way: The Republican party SUCKS, and Specter can no longer afford to be associated with them.
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Tracy__5 Says:
For those on the left to equate the term “tea baggin” with Tea Parties, i.e. to think about it in the first place, is totally indicative of the mindset of those who used the term in this particular context…
You’re the ones who started calling yourselves “teabaggers” who were “teabagging.” No really, you did it first. You went on the airwaves talking about teabagging people. You were holding up signs, fercryinoutloud. You expected us not to laugh? Don’t think so. Also, plenty of wingnuts knew the reference, and went along with it anyway – pro wrestling used to do it for a while as a demonstration of submission. And wingnuts watch pro wrestling.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Since Obama’s been in office I see the terrorists licking their chops at an opportunity.
What do you know? Your militia friends drawing up plans about now?
April 28th, 2009 at 4:12 pmmisscoleopteramolly Says:
republicans hate facts Says
April 28th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Please flag Tracist. His whining and b!tching about his teabagging buddies is just derailing the thread.
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I’m ready to flag BOTH of you. You are sounding every bit as juvenile as he/she is. And the blame for trashing this thread can be split between the two of you.
Awww c’mon! It’s just a tete a tete over the merits of teabaggery!!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:12 pmDevastating riposte!
Has nothing to do with my post, but TRacist was able to claim it was “about nothing”. That must have required some brain power.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pmI suspect that this is just a calculated move by the Republicans. They have seen the polls and realize that in the Republican primary, Specter will lose. So you have him declare, I will switch parties because the GOP is crazy. It doesn’t really matter if its a PR disaster because everything is a PR disaster for the GOP right now. So you get the democrats to spend money in their primary against a Republican pretending to be a Democrat, and then the Democrats have to spend money again against another Republican in the main election.
This give the Republicans two chances to hold this seat, instead of just one. The only way I welcome this guy into the party is if he does not run for office.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pmPachydiplax de St. Augustine Says:
It must really suck being a republiscum apologist today.
How sweet it is!!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:13 pmTracy__5 is probably wiping its weepy eyes with the “I teabagged the tax code on April 15, and I’ll I got was this lousy t-shirt” t-shirt.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:15 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Tracist__5 Says:
#319
“That’s awfully sporting of them.”
You came up with the alot about nothing on your own?
Devastating riposte!
Has nothing to do with my post, but TRacist was able to claim it was “about nothing”. That must have required some brain power.
Tracy is probably running around in small circles in its cell somewhere…waiting to be teabagged.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:16 pmSpecter would be the perfect for the campaign trail for a Democratic challenger for his seat. That would be the best way he could help the Democratic Party. I would not trust him with power.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:17 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Tweedster Says:
Awww c’mon! It’s just a tete a tete over the merits of teabaggery!!
Missmolly is still made at me because I called her out for being such a crazy b*tch during the primaries. She had nothing but lies, hate and ridicule for Hillary and cried like a stuck pick when I called her out for her Hypocrisy. I’ve gotten over the primaries, but apparently she holds a grudge and refuses to “grow up” about the matter.
That’s a shame…maybe she needs a nice relaxing cup of Earl Grey to lift her spirits and soothe her soul?
April 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pmMe?
April 28th, 2009 at 4:21 pmI’m waiting for ole salty dog hisself, Tracist, to post here tomorrow after this thread is dead and gone, to have the last word.
Cracks me up, it does.
If it’s not our domain, who’s is it?
April 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pmTracy__5 Says:
No I am still waiting on a good pitch to hit. Up till now you guys have been throwing it easy yet hitting me in the leg with your wild pitches.
Being a good teabagger does lend itself to having both eyes trained on the ball while making contact.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pmOnce more, Trace… saying it doesn’t make it so.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:25 pmTeabagging sucks!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:25 pmTracy__5 Says:
But you are still here none the less…as if this is your domain.
I am the master of my domain! I fear no teabagger!!!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:26 pmTracist__5 (ol’ Salty Dog) Says:
But you are still here none the less…as if this is your domain.
Yes. It is MY domain. And you’re my teabagged B*TCH!
(the following was a page specifically stolen from rhf)
April 28th, 2009 at 4:26 pmAmazing that a Reichwingnut would claim that a progressive blog is not the domain of progressives.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:27 pmLevi the Dungbeetle Says:
Teabagging sucks!
Tracy can’t get enough teabagging!
April 28th, 2009 at 4:28 pmYou’re not well schooled in imporv, either, are ya Tracist? It’s supposed to be “yes, but…”
Not simply “nuh-uh!” When you’re trying to play along with an analogy, it doesn’t really work to simply claim that what the other guy said was wrong.
Each of your aimless posts here is a wild swing at a pitch. You haven’t connected yet, even though we’re tossing underhand to you as easy as we can.
Next step is to put the damn ball on a tee for you.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:28 pmTRacist says “Leave my teabaggers alone!”
April 28th, 2009 at 4:30 pmSame thing with these current Tea Parties. You have a group of people protesting paying excessive taxes imposed on them by their government eventhough their elected representatives voted against the stimulus bills.
You know Tracy, you make a good point, but unwittingly…The Wall Street insiders would LOVE to protest the increase of their bracket from 36% to 39% but if they tried to pull off what the parodying Billionaires for Bush pulled off, they know they would look ridiculous…That’s why the GOP needs their base to do their dirty work for them so that they could create the facade and appearance of populism…Notice that these did not start until Obama came into office and well after Bush started to bail out his Wall Street cronies…
April 28th, 2009 at 4:33 pmMy lack of trust in Steele is based on a lack of trust in Republicans in general. That’s why they are down to only 21%, because Americans just don’t trust them anymore.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:33 pmExplain why those who thought those dangling tea bags reminded them and set off their perverted sexual fantasies.
The funny part is their cultural ignorance. Did they wear their rubbers, in case it rained?
April 28th, 2009 at 4:38 pm“These guys” are just fighting against fascism and they are winning.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:52 pmBut the true government “elitists” are in control of the government now.
LOL Like the previous group was made up of a bunch of average Joe’s!!!!
What a fool.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:00 pmI would ask this troll to back up her rhetoric with a link to an unbias source, but since it is obviously just Reichwingnut propaganda, I won’t expect the troll to defend her own statements.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pmNo, but they weren’t GOVERNMENT elitists.
Your right. They were Neocon, Evangelical religious fundamentalist elitists. Way better! You need to ctrl-alt-delete your brain.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:12 pmWhat is your problem with arugala? I suppose baby bok choi is a big no no as well… Here have the iceberg….
April 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pmMaybe Tracy5 is right, the Democrats are such elitists, even the members of the GOP want to be Democrats. Hey, snark on topic!
April 28th, 2009 at 5:15 pm…
trace,
your doctor called. he’s says
you should keep posting until
your bp goes down to a safe
and acceptable level.
:)
ps – no salt on your fries.
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April 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pmTracy__5 Says:
#165
“If I were the Republicans I would be very worried at this point.”
Again the same thing was said before 1994. Zzzzzzzzzzzz……..
In 1994 way more than 21% of the people in this country identified themselves as Republicans. Sorry, tracy, you lose. Too bad so sad for you.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm….
trace,
you’re spamming.
are you ok?
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April 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pmSo Tracy5, big government is acceptable if it means giving away billions to corporations through no-bid contracts and abuses like domestic wiretapping, although to be fair, Obama hasn’t done away with it completely if I remember things correctly?
April 28th, 2009 at 5:27 pmOh my! Who would have thought a little defection like Specter would prove to be the last straw of the “stalwart” Tracist. Maybe if he goes on another couple hundred posts he won’t be so very terrified of the ongoing self-destruction of the GOP.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:34 pmDearest Tracist:
YOU are a troll. So sorry :( Read below and realize what kind of troll you are:
Spamming troll: Posts too many newsgroups with the same verbatim post.
Kooks: A regular member of a forum who habitually drops comments that have no basis on the topic or even in reality.
Flamer: Does not contribute to the group except by making inflammatory comments.
Hit-and-runner: Stops in, make one or two posts and move on.
Psycho trolls: Has a psychological need to feel good by making others feel bad
Many trolls are characterized by having an excess of free time and are probably lonely and seeking attention, Trolls often see their own self-worth in relation to how much reaction they can provoke.
Go find some new friends and let the adults to have fun on the computer machine.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pmTracy5, I asked you to provide an unbias source for your Reichwingnuttery, but instead you gave me a youtube video made by naked emperor news. I included the link so you can all have a good laugh at the unbias source Tracy5 provided.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:38 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
Missmolly is still made at me because I called her out for being such a crazy b*tch during the primaries. She had nothing but lies, hate and ridicule for Hillary and cried like a stuck pick when I called her out for her Hypocrisy. I’ve gotten over the primaries, but apparently she holds a grudge and refuses to “grow up” about the matter.
Seems to me that you are the one who needs to “grow up”. It wasn’t just Missmolly who called you on your BS during the primaries. Pretty much everyone here did. And your assessment of Missmolly is about as off base as you could be. I have never read any post by Missmolly that wasn’t well written, well thought out and put forth in a respectful manner. Many others, myself included weren’t very respectful of you but I don’t feel any remorse because you deserved everything you got during the primaries.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:41 pm…
trace,
welcome to the new republican party,
population: you!
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April 28th, 2009 at 5:41 pmDear Tracist, I suggest you start stock piling guns, ammo, can goods, water and a box of sand to stick your head into. There WILL BE another terrorist attack in your town this time. It’s all because of those weak democrats.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:45 pmTracy5, I asked you to provide an unbias source to back up your statement
So far you have only provided an extremely bias source. I am not sure Obama’s ideas about how the civil rights movement not going far enough to bring African Americans out of poverty means he is trying to “control the masses and make everyone the same” but I guess that makes sense in Reichwingnut fantasy reality.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:51 pmThe funny thing is that the Reichwhiners are so dependent on fear that they make shit up to be afraid of.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:53 pmTracy__5 Says:
“The funny thing is that the Reichwhiners are so dependent on fear that they make shit up to be afraid of.”
Kinda like how the left wing loons during the 1970s predicted that the Earth would be destroyed by global warming by now.
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ahhh, you’re upset.
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olympia snowe:
Centrist GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine) said the news should serve as a “wake-up call” to the party and added she has no intention of leaving the party herself.
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“The blunt reality is that we’re losing another key moderate who has played a key role in the Republican Party … If the Republican Party fully intends to become a majority party in the future, they will clearly have to move from the right toward the middle,” Snowe said. “That was certainly indicative in the last election, and it’s certainly indicative in the polls that are being released. The leadership here understands that.
“I haven’t abandoned those principles that have been the essence of the Republican Party. I think the Republican Party has abandoned those principles,” Snowe added.
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fewer but better repubs,
eh trace?
:)
April 28th, 2009 at 6:12 pmTwo words for all the Republicans “appalled” by Spector’s move:
Joe Lieberman
April 28th, 2009 at 6:14 pmDid you see that, class?
The poor overwhelmed creature, confused by a defection from his herd, starts striking at shadows and reflections. Soon, the subject will be convinced that it’s own companions are enemies and strike in earnest or piss himself and faint in terror of the realization that he really is alone.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:30 pmTracy is beyond the “i need a hug” phase.
She’s about to spontaneously combust.
Drop and roll, Tracy!
April 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pmDrop and roll!
Wealth redistribution is exactly trying to make everyone the same.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:37 pm—–
No it isn’t just ask Robin Hood…
Do you ever get tired of just lying?
Seriously, you guys love to sit in church, pat yourselves on the back while talking of honor, country, God, etc.
So don’t you ever get tired of having to lie to sell your party?
:|
In your wildest dreams, do you think a man who made 1.6 million dollars in one year has even the remotest inkling of making “everyone the same”?
Your lies about President Obama being a communist are against your country, and they are the lies of a traitor.
It’s time for you to stop lying Tracy, and get behind your President and your country.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pmTwacy__-5 @ #308 Says:
Last time I looked the Boston Tea party in 1773 was in response to the British government trying to impose it’s will over it’s (sic) colonies NOT an independent nation…yet. The no taxation without representation grivance (sic) against the British government (the Obama equivalent) here didn’t make it illegal to impose the tax. Same thing with these current Tea Parties. You have a group of people protesting paying excessive taxes imposed on them by their government eventhough (sic) their elected representatives voted against the stimulus bills.
Twacy, You need to understand WHY taxes go UP. Taxes go UP because of WARS. WARS are expensive. Your NEOCON dipshit repugs started TWO FCUKING WARS! YOU should have teabagged your bushies. READ THIS INFORMATION at THIS LINE and STFU:
Tea Baggin’ fun link
April 28th, 2009 at 7:01 pmHe is not a communist. He is not a socialist.
He is for free enterprise, which is why he is funding federal contracts to hire contractors to stimulate the economy.
There isn’t even a hint of any sort of communistic or socialistic even share in any of his doctrine.
You should stop lying, confess your sins to your priest or pastor, and ask God and your fellow man for forgiveness for bearing false witness and attempting to deceive.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:01 pmjoe cantwell Says:
trace,
welcome to the new republican party,
population: you!
And that guy over there in the hair shirt:
“Rapture Ready… Now, Lord!”
April 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pmFor the last 8 years all I’ve heard from the republicans, including the republicans in my own family, was that I should “get behind the President”, “support the President”.
That’s all I heard.
So now I’m behind the President, and they’re condemning me for that, telling me it’s wrong to support him.
Which is quite confusing.
:|
Until at least you figure out that what they really meant was that I should get behind “THEIR” President, and no one else’s.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:12 pmOh, Tracist, you’ve got your talking points backwards.
See, in Right-wing world, the seventies were supposed to be the era of Global Cooling hysteria. Just ask George Will. He’ll tell ya.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pmI gotta admire Tracist’s fortitude. It’s not every troll who could stick it out this long on a thread with no weapons other than persistence and a willingness to say whatever pops into his head regardless of its accuracy or truthfulness.
Granted, those are two formidable weapons in a troll’s hands. But still…
April 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pm“Senator Specter’s decision today represents the height of political self-preservation. While this presents a short-term disappointment, voters next year will have a clear choice to cast their ballots for a potentially unbridled Democrat super-majority versus the system of checks-and-balances that Americans deserve.”
Does he mean those “checks and balances” that the Republicans had when they ran roughshod over the Democrats for 8 years?
RIP GOP.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:45 pmSo trace refuses to comment on the fact that the Republicans lost 4% of their members in the last month to now have 21% say they are Republican. What’s the matter trace? Do you think if you ignore facts they will go away?
April 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pmWow, so many updates…
Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum commented on Specter’s decision in Politico’s Arena:
1) If Obama’s proposals need “moderating,” centrist or blue-dog Democrats have way more power than Republicans. Obama isn’t listening to the Republicans. He tried to “moderate his proposals” during the stimulus bill hearing, and the R’s delivered zero votes in return.
2) Like most of the current voices of the Republican party today, Santorum is not an elected official.
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In his statement, Specter reaffirms his opposition to the Employee Free Choice Act: “Unlike Senator Jeffords’ switch which changed party control, I will not be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.”
There’s a biiig difference between voting against something and voting against cloture on it. You can vote for cloture and against a bill, and still go on record to your voters as being against the bill. To vote against cloture requires caucus organization.
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RNC Chairman Michael Steele put out a statement saying that “some in the Republican Party are happy about this. I am not.”
That’s because the number of seats gained or lost is the measure of your job performance. Which is why Howard Dean is “da man,” and you are not.
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Steele then claimed that “Specter didn’t leave the GOP based on principles of any kind,” but because he couldn’t win in the GOP primary “due to his left-wing voting record.”
Assuming that Senators vote according to their principles, those are the exact same thing. Does Steele not vote his principles?
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Statement from NRSC Chairman John Cornyn (R-TX): “Senator Specter’s decision today represents the height of political self-preservation. While this presents a short-term disappointment, voters next year will have a clear choice to cast their ballots for a potentially unbridled Democrat super-majority versus the system of checks-and-balances that Americans deserve.”
in other words, “we’re combing the woods to find the loonies, frothing-at-the-mouth psycho freak to put forward in the next primary against him. Because the only reason we have to give you to vote for us is to prevent the (reasonable, effective, responsible and responsive) Democratic party from getting a solid lock on Congress.”
Oh by the way, “not having a supermajority” is not a “checks-and-balances” issue. That’s not in the Constitution at all. There’s no law that guarantees your party at least 41 Senators.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:59 pmWatching FAUX Noise now – I put my tin foil hat on to keep the bad “waves” from effecting my brain. I’ll report back later to check in. If I start babbling like the Tractis or !Proud – SHOOT ME!
April 28th, 2009 at 8:06 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Devastating riposte!
Has nothing to do with my post, but TRacist was able to claim it was “about nothing”. That must have required some brain power.
I think he’s got a text-generator for this stuff.
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Levi the Dungbeetle Says:
So you get the democrats to spend money in their primary against a Republican pretending to be a Democrat, and then the Democrats have to spend money again against another Republican in the main election.
How do Democrats spend money in the primary against a Republican? I bet he made sure the DNCC would back him before he jumped. Hell, the Dems were already more likely to give him support than Steele’s RNCC would have.
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republicans hate facts Says:
She had nothing but lies, hate and ridicule for Hillary and cried like a stuck pick when I called her out for her Hypocrisy.
Oh, go cry in your PUMA tote bag… sheesh.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Those are the only two Obama thinks will work.
No. Only wingnuts propose that we must either torture or coddle.
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Tracy__5 Says:
That was CNN and MSNBC. Prove your assertion.
Okay.
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Tracy__5 Says:
I expected you not childishly think about something you know had absolutely nothing to do with the protests. It’s kinda like when on Bevis and Butthead (I know you know who these two are) when someone would say “wood” and they would get all giddy and stupid.
It’s more than that. Don’t expect us to act like grown-ups when you start throwing your upcoming “tossed salad” protests.
I’ll throw this warning in for free. Go tell your freeper friends.
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Tracy__5 Says:
“What do you know? Your militia friends drawing up plans about now?”
No, that would be your al Qaeda friends.
*ahem*
NO U!
My crystal ball prediction: the next time an extremist right-wing group commits a major terrorist attack during Obama’s term (and they will) they’ll also make a clumsy attempt to frame Arab-Americans for it.
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Tracy__5 Says:
But the true government “elitists” are in control of the government now. Their MO is to control the masses and make everyone the sam
Nope, that was you guys. 100% party-line votes, again and again. No dissent to your President’s policies, even though you’re coming out of the woodwork now. Systematically purging anybody who expresses a slightly variant opinion. We don’t work that way, in case you hadn’t noticed. That’s why we’re mopping the floor with y’all right now.
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Tracy__5 Says:
No, but they weren’t GOVERNMENT elitists.
Now you’re narrowing what kinds of elitists you’re against, huh? Interesting. Let me know when you’re the only one left.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Pathetic TP for not being able to post a youtube link.
Fail!
April 28th, 2009 at 8:21 pmCHECKING IN: STILL SANE AFTER WATCHING FAUX NOISE!!!
OK. I made it through Bill-O and Handjob-ity! The tin foil hat worked great.
What a bunch of smug a$$holes! Wow! You have to be brain dead to believe the crap they spew! It-boggles-the-mind!
FCUK THE RE-THUG-LI-CANTS
April 28th, 2009 at 10:52 pmTracy__5 Says:
Did you listen to any of his Chicago radio interview?
Yeah. He’s not saying what you think he’s saying there. That’s a specific point of law he’s talking about, not actual transfer payments. There’s no mechanism for the judiciary to mandate something that would be so complicated to manage. But go ahead and make up whatever you like, if you like.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Impossible, because you will be dead and buried by then.
How very Kruschev of you.
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Tracy__5 Says:
You have no defence of the BS spending and tax hikes and all you guys can do is come up with some perverted sexual innuendo? That’s pathetic.
Yet again, you’re the ones who used the sexual innuendo. We merely pointed out how ludicrous it was for you to use a widely known sexual innuendo.
If you don’t like it, then stop naming your protests and groups after sex acts.
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Tracy__5 Says:
“My crystal ball prediction: the next time an extremist right-wing group commits a major terrorist attack during Obama’s term (and they will) they’ll also make a clumsy attempt to frame Arab-Americans for it.”
I will bet you right here and now it doesn’t happen.
Happened the last time you guys were out of the White House. And now you’re already talking about “taking up arms” and “seceding” and “militias” again – exactly like the last time you were out of the White House. What’s changed? Why should we expect you to behave yourselves this time, when you’re showing no signs that you intend to?
What were all the news channels and the FBI saying for 3 days after Oklahoma City? That it was probably Muslims done it. Whatever wingnut is the first to actually take your politicians words seriously and kills a lot of people will want to add to that suspicion. Maybe he’ll see it as kicking Obama’s butt to prosecute the GWOT with more torture and less international cooperation, more like Bush. But it won’t take much to lure investigators off track, at least for a while.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:12 amI was in shock to hear Senator Spector switching sides. However there is something that most don’t recognize and that is he is leaving because his party was hijacked by the Rightwing Puppy Kickers of the Republicans.
The way I see it there are moderates on both sides of the isle, my impression is that moderates are generally in the middle. But that the Rightwing is trying very hard to kick anyone that is moderate out. Simply put, purify the party, which will hurt them!
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Hey Tracy, it is amazing how you are foaming at the mouth about the spending that is going on right now, especially when it comes to the money that is being spent on the two wars that the Moron Bush Jr. got us into….something along the lines of “12 billion plus” every month. But hey, ya know it is for a good cause considering that we invaded Iraq and never caught Bin Ladin.
You are soooo worried about your childrens future, I wonder if you gave any thought to that when the Moron decided to take us into Iraq and Afghanistan without a plan!
My question is, where were you over the last eight years with the Moron Bush Jr. in office, standing and waving the flag and saying what a good job he has done! It seems that for you people that money wasn’t the problem, and now it is…interesting!!!!
April 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pmHey Arlen,
Macy’s called – they want to make a float of you for the next Thanksgiving Day Parade – full of hot air and going whichever way the wind blows…..
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