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Specter Promises Obama To ‘Support Your Agenda,’ Hours Later Restates Opposition To OLC Pick

This morning, Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter decided to leave the Republican Party — saying it “has moved far to the right” — and join the Democrats. President Obama was informed of Specter’s decision this morning and called to welcome him to the party. White House sources told ABC News that Specter pledged loyalty to Obama’s agenda:

At 10:32am, President Barack Obama reached Specter and told him “you have my full support” and “thrilled to have you.”

Specter told the president, “I’m a loyal Democrat. I support your agenda.”

Just hours later, however, Specter reaffirmed his unfounded opposition to Obama’s pick to head the Office of Legal Counsel, Dawn Johnsen:

Q: How are going to vote on the Dawn Johnsen confirmation?

SPECTER: I’m opposed to the nominee for Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Council, Dawn Johnsen.

Watch it:

Johnsen has been a tireless advocate for limited executive power firmly bounded by law, not to mention a strong torture opponent — concerns Specter purportedly shares. In March, while still a Republican, Specter said that filibustering Johnsen was “under consideration,” though he never explained the basis for his opposition. Indeed, Specter declared his opposition to Johnsen just seconds after explaining that his opposition to warrantless wiretapping and Bush’s interrogation tactics were part of his decision to leave the GOP.

Rumor in Washington has it that Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) may step down from the chairmanship of the Appropriations Committee, giving the seat to Sen. Pat Leahy (D-VT) — and opening the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee to the new Democrat, Specter. From this post, Specter could indefinitely delay hearings on Johnsen, not to mention completely kill Leahy’s efforts to hold a truth commission to examine Bush’s use of torture and other illegal practices.

Specter also reaffirmed his opposition to the Employee Free Choice Act today. Apparently to Specter, opposing progressive legal nominees and stomping on workers’ rights is all part of proving he is a “loyal Democrat” in support of Obama’s agenda.

Update Brad Johnson notes Specter's long voting record opposing a new clean economy.
Update Sen. Dick Lugar (R-IN) said today he would support Johnsen's nomination, becoming the first Republican to publicly support her.


226 Responses to “Specter Promises Obama To ‘Support Your Agenda,’ Hours Later Restates Opposition To OLC Pick”

  1. Game of Life says:

  2. KayInMaine says:

    Specter is now a DINO covering over a RINO body! How confusing!!!!


  3. wiley says:

    Dawn Johnsen is an excellent choice. I’m looking forward to her confirmation.


  4. Game of Life says:

    I wonder who specter thinks he’s fooling?

    He’s going to lose bigtime. dems ain’t as stupid as teabaggers.


  5. Ape-Man says:

    We don’t want the rats in politics anymore, regardless of whos colors they wear. After what they have done they can’t just cross the isle.


  6. aquarius2 says:

    What the hell is going on? Dems being Republicans, Republicans becoming Dems. Is this a two party system OR a system of political opportunists.


  7. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Well, if Arlen won’t get on the bus he’ll get flattened by it in 2010. I do not believe Arlen is going to pull too much BS out of his a$$ by behaving like a Psuedo-Dem. He won’t be able to get away with much – too many eyes are on him. Especially those who feel he’s made the switch for the wrong reason – i.e. getting re-elected in 2010.


  8. Game of Life says:

    To be a repug is to be a freakin liar.

    It ain’t his freakin party.

    Coming around here stinkin up our party.

    Is there a site up yet called GTFOOHspecky?


  9. DallasNE says:

    Since Spector is a veteran Senator I was wondering what the behind the scenes nogotations on a Chairmanship might be. My biggest fear was the Judicary Committee. Ouch, it looks like worst case scenario to me. My guess is he will pull back from some of his recent statements but Judicary is problematic, any way you cut it.


  10. Ape-Man says:

    It looks like Limbaugh is still at the center of the evaporating republican black hole. He says good riddance to the moderates.


  11. hivanh says:

    When I first heard this, this morning, I said, “I give it 4-6 hours to turn out to be a hoax.” I over-estimated.

    Why in the world do we keep electing, listening to andgiving air time to idiots and bums?


  12. KayInMaine says:

    Who wants to bet by the end of the week Michael Steele will announce to the nation, “The republican party has changed it’s name. Please now call it the “Democratic Party”. Thank you and good night!”.


  13. Ape-Man says:

    The republicans are thowing out the RHINO label. More to come.


  14. dixie blood says:

    Specter has NEVER, EVER, EVER BEEN a man of his word!!!


  15. Chessmaster says:

    Well, if Gillibrand could evolve, it’s possible Specter will do the same. I mean he needs to score the Democratic nomination next year so he’s gotta evolve or be extinguished. I think that he’s still running on GOP autopilot or he has concerns about Dawn Johnsen that he still wants cleared up. I hope he can adjust to his new party status and find his niche.


  16. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Hey Ape-Man:

    Lamebaugh had a nerve to say take McCain and his daughter too.
    LOL! Now he can step up and be the truly new face of the GOPers as he’s always been anyway!


  17. had enough says:

    Did Specter cross over because of a 53% rating in PA?

    Let’s hope the people in PA look at his voting record rather than only the ‘D’ behind his name when choosing a Senator for their primary of ‘10.


  18. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Another thing, if Specter gets shady on EFCA, the good DEMOCRATIC citizens of PA will bypass him on election day. Arlen can’t afford to get “brand new” on issues that affect Americans.


  19. dixie blood says:

    It was Specter that single handly gave us the WORST SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN HISTORY….

    CLARENCE THOMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  20. Chessmaster says:

    Calm down, Dixieblood. >_>


  21. Chessmaster says:

    Also, I think Proud here is a spy sent by O’Reilly. XD Just kidding, but seriously, he is pretty out of place here. *points to comment #21*


  22. ralph the wonder locust says:

    KayInMaine Says:
    Who wants to bet by the end of the week Michael Steele will announce to the nation, “The republican party has changed it’s name. Please now call it the “Democratic Party”. Thank you and good night!”.

    Ooooo… that would explain their extensive efforts to re-brand the opposition as the “Democrat Party” — so they could grab the proper “Democratic Party” for themselves.

    They’re DIABOLICAL!


  23. whirlaway says:

    Well, looks like Lieberman is not the only “pain in
    the a**” for the Democratic Party now! :-(((


  24. Ape-Man says:

    All the trolls sound like one troll.


  25. Megaloptera McWars says:

    It’s more believable that Specter has a conscience to be spooked by the tactics of today’s losing republican party, than the meme being pushed of his “moderate” views driving him to the democratic party. He’s something less of a far-right winger, but he’s no moderate.

    If Pennsylvania didn’t have a democratic senator already, then Specter would have a great chance to convince voters of his switched party affiliation. Fortunately, however, the voters don’t have to scrimp– they have registration numbers and the Casey model to make their choice.

    I fully appreciate this act of no-confidence of the GOP from Specter, but shouldn’t joining the other major party be based on political convictions and not necessarily a waltz-in winning strategy?


  26. dbadass says:

    Has Proud’s Magic Eightball been correct about anything yet?


  27. ukeman123 says:

    Yes on EFCA or out he goes in ‘10.
    Thanks but no thanks.
    If Obama has a “plan” to reconcile the union vote, it better be apparent by then.


  28. Zooey says:

    Chessmaster Says:

    Calm down, Dixieblood. >_>
    April 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    That IS Dixie being calm.


  29. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Proud Says:

    Don’t mind me I’m just hating that folks are jumping off the GOPer ship to keep from drowning in FAILURE and EXCESSIVE WINGNUTTERY.


  30. Megaloptera McWars says:

    Actually, Proud, Harry Reid may give him the Judiciary chairmanship. Since you are deliberately ignorant, I’ll remind you that we don’t approve of Harry’s leadership. If fact, his chances of reelection in his own home state don’t look peachy keen.

    Ralph’s comment this morning took the cake (paraphrasing): this is more a further blow to the republican party than it is a boon for the democrats.


  31. dixie blood says:

    Chessmaster Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Calm down, Dixieblood. >_>

    So you’re here to vouch for Specter and Clarence Thomas?

    Why?

    Or are you just trying to “discount” my emotions like a typical male?

    Calm down? Really? Am I hysterical? Should I have a hysterectomy? So I can “calm down?”


  32. Badmoodman says:

    Specter told the president, “I’m a loyal Democrat. I support your agenda.”

    – - Uh huh, it’s a snap to switch allegiance from the Corleones to the Tattaglias.


  33. kasinca says:

    While Arlen will still be voting like a blue dog, the upside of this is the message to the GOP: You have moved too far right for me. The sad thing is that they will move even farther right to prove him wrong, in their delusional minds.


  34. Badmoodman says:

    It was Specter that single handly gave us the WORST SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN HISTORY….

    – - He topped that decades earlier with his Magic Bullet Theory on Kennedy’s assassination.


  35. ConcernedParent says:

    Can we send Specter back? Or how about he and Lieberman starting their own party, call it “The National Weasel ME ME ME Part” The only thing you can expect out of Arlen is to do whatever he feels is best for Arlen. His word is as short as his nose.


  36. dixie blood says:

    Badmoonman,

    Thank you for that post at #36…his first scumbag power grab!!! I will never, ever trust this bastard!!!

    Thanks again.


  37. had enough says:

    Proud Says:

    He changed parties for two reasons, first of all he wants to get re-elected in a dem state, and secondly he knows how stupid the Dims are, they will give him the chairmanship of the judiciary committee

    In agreement he wants to get re-elected as being affiliated with the goppers is certainly a guaranteed loss for anyone.

    But in no way will he replace Leahy.


  38. ElBruce says:

    Jeez people, give him a few days. His staffers have a lot of policy statements to re-draft.


  39. dixie blood says:

    ElBruce Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Jeez people, give him a few days. His staffers have a lot of policy statements to re-draft.

    He’s had years and no spine!


  40. Megaloptera McWars says:

    Let’s say Arlen became the democratic nominee and Toomey the republican nominee? Given the current polling numbers, wouldn’t be better for the Republicans to boot Spector in the primaries instead of moving the carnage up to the general where Arlen and the Dems would go down?


  41. wiley says:

    Are those links to foreign porn sites? I’m not gonna look.


  42. BrianFL says:

    We should accept Specter, but also support Joe Sestak in the PA Senate primary. Let them battle for the Democratic primary fair and square, with the voters of Pennsylvania deciding. I hope the Party leadership does not block the much more reliable Admiral Sestak for the Senate seat just to save Specter.


  43. dbadass says:

    Should I have a hysterectomy

    Why? April isn’t Women’s Hysterectomy Month is it?


  44. freeman says:

    Perhaps a specter-rectomy would suffice ?


  45. Chessmaster says:

    Dixieblood says:

    So you’re here to vouch for Specter and Clarence Thomas?

    Why?

    Or are you just trying to “discount” my emotions like a typical male?

    Calm down? Really? Am I hysterical? Should I have a hysterectomy? So I can “calm down?”

    No, I’m not vouching for either. In fact, Clarence Thomas is one of the biggest mistakes the SCOTUS has to offer. I’m just new here at TP and I’m something of a noob here.


  46. ElBruce says:

    dixie blood Says:

    It was Specter that single handly gave us the WORST SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN HISTORY….

    CLARENCE THOMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Single-handedly? I don’t think so. There’s plenty of blame to be spread around for Uncle “Maytag Repairman” Tom.

    .

    dixie blood Says:

    He’s had years and no spine!

    So the upshot is: we have another spineless Democrat. Wake me when there’s news.

    .

    wiley Says:

    Are those links to foreign porn sites? I’m not gonna look.

    Oddly enough, they’re links to other sites with the same news items that are posted at this site.

    .

    dbadass Says:

    Why? April isn’t Women’s Hysterectomy Month is it?

    I’m more worried about Men’s Hysterectomy Month. I’ve always felt insufficiently equipped for it.


  47. dixie blood says:

    dbadass,

    Look up the history of hysterectomy and it’s word root. Then look at the damage done to women around the world with unnecessary hysterectomies just to make them “calm down.”


  48. dbadass says:

    dixie blood. I need not. I can talk with my mother. It was just a gag. I am not the type you might be thinking…


  49. dixie blood says:

    #49 — ElBruce Says:

    Single-handedly? I don’t think so. There’s plenty of blame to be spread around for Uncle “Maytag Repairman” Tom.

    So the upshot is: we have another spineless Democrat. Wake me when there’s news.

    Right on point. Outstanding!


  50. dixie blood says:

    dbadass…thanks…I thought I knew you…and I do…no prob…

    best to you and Moms…


  51. dbadass says:

    The Spector deal has little to do with with ideology for those who seek ideological purity. Why it is interesting is more on the psychological impact it potentially has on an already adrift and confused GOP


  52. hormiga brava chavez says:

    I’m watching Specter’s press conference on Rachel Maddow’s show. Specter was calling for a rebellion and an uprising in the republican party against those who are trying to ‘purify’ the party. Rise against those wingnuts! LOLOLOL This is tooo hilarious! Specter’s defection is more of a blow to those wingnut GOPers than to the Democratic Party! My son just gave me a bowl of popcorn! ROTFL!


  53. Xisithrus says:

    I’m just new here at TP and I’m something of a noob here. –=CM=–

    Welcome aboard Chess, TP is, to me, a loosely knit group and we often disagree with one another but find that a good thing instead of a bad one.

    Lately, since I am currently residing in Texas and Rick Perry is a seccessionista I have been related to the Beverly Hillbillies which, by conventional wisdom, have infiltrated 100% of the state. =)


  54. Xisithrus says:

    Now suck my oil well Texas haters!!!!

    Heh


  55. Xisithrus says:

    The Spector deal has little to do with with ideology for those who seek ideological purity. -=DBA=-

    Im not yet sure what to think of Spector…


  56. flight says:

    Sen. Arlen Specter has done a fair job of representing a bipartisan state. I have voted for him every time he has been up for election. I have no regrets. This could be indicative of the Republicans pushing out anyone who does follow the line. It could be that Specter will be the first in a string of defections. These senior senators keep taking marching orders from old Rush. I don’t think it will hold for long.


  57. Jess Wonderin says:

    I have NO problem with Spector changing over . . . he should get in line with EVERY OTHER NEW Democratic Senator and earn his FUTURE Committee appointments . . . . why rush the new “Junior Democtaric Senator” into a position he might not be suited to hold?


  58. KateB says:

    The guy’s still allowed to have his own opinions, right?


  59. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    dixie blood Says:
    Or are you just trying to “discount” my emotions like a typical male?

    Calm down? Really? Am I hysterical? Should I have a hysterectomy? So I can “calm down?”

    Hysteria = Wandering Uterus. Nice obscure reference dixie blood. Kudos.


  60. ElBruce says:

    hormiga brava chavez Says:

    I’m watching Specter’s press conference on Rachel Maddow’s show. Specter was calling for a rebellion and an uprising in the republican party against those who are trying to ‘purify’ the party.

    Well then. Just waiting for Meghan McCain to come out as a Dem next…

    .

    Xisithrus Says:

    Now suck my oil well Texas haters!!!!

    Make sure you’re vacationing in Vegas when the civil war breaks out, or else you can prepare to catch some “freedom” along with the rest of ‘em, you, you… Texan.


  61. kasinca says:

    I have a problem with wingnut senators who are holding up the appointment of Dawn Johnsen for ideological reasons. Keep in mind that women’s rights have been the law for over thirty years. Like it or not, nobody should be penalized for agreeing with a law. The troubling part is that she opposed increased executive powers and torture. I wonder if the wingnuts who voted with Bush Cheney all those years are trying to help them in anyway they can.


  62. dixie blood says:

    Tent of Freedom Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    dixie blood Says:
    It was Specter that single handly gave us the WORST SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN HISTORY….
    CLARENCE THOMAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Arlen was the only reich-winger that opposed Borkkk.

    BorKKK or Uncle Tom…how was Specter helpful? Uncle Tom was settling for a lesser evil.


  63. Xisithrus says:

    KateB Says: The guy’s still allowed to have his own opinions, right?

    Yes. But his voting should match what the constituents [not special interest groups] of his state desire from my POV


  64. Game of Life says:

    specky needs us we don’t need him.


  65. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Xisithrus Says:

    Now suck my oil well Texas haters!!!!

    Heh

    Wowie, X is talking dirty! Where’s Zooey?


  66. dixie blood says:

    Doodlebug Shayne Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Hysteria = Wandering Uterus. Nice obscure reference dixie blood. Kudos.

    It’s only obscure if you’re male…


  67. Xisithrus says:

    Make sure you’re vacationing in Vegas when the civil war breaks out, or else you can prepare to catch some “freedom” along with the rest of ‘em, you, you… Texan. -=EB=-

    Hah, Ill run for the border!


  68. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    So Specter gets the possibility of keeping his job but what do we get? Screwed?


  69. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Xisithrus Says:

    Make sure you’re vacationing in Vegas when the civil war breaks out, or else you can prepare to catch some “freedom” along with the rest of ‘em, you, you… Texan. -=EB=-

    Hah, Ill run for the border!

    Oklahoma or Mexico?


  70. Xisithrus says:

    Wowie, X is talking dirty! Where’s Zooey? -=DoodleBug=-

    Talking dirty outside the Zoo cessepool no less… =]

    Wait..is that possible?


  71. Xisithrus says:

    Oklahoma or Mexico?

    Naw, New Mexico


  72. Game of Life says:

    ‘purify’ the party

    What are you talking about white man?


  73. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Xisithrus Says:

    Wowie, X is talking dirty! Where’s Zooey? -=DoodleBug=-

    Talking dirty outside the Zoo cessepool no less… =]

    Wait..is that possible?

    Nothing is dirty INSIDE the cesspool!


  74. Xisithrus says:

    Nothing is dirty INSIDE the cesspool!

    Phewww, I am safe then.


  75. hormiga brava chavez says:

    ElBruce Says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Meghan McCain defects from the darkside. Senator McCain, however, wouldn’t leave until he loses his seat.


  76. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Xisithrus Says:

    Phewww, I am safe then.

    April 28th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    I don’t know about ’safe’, Xisithrus. I mean, we’re talking about Zooey, right? ;)


  77. hormiga brava chavez says:

    AWOMEN! I love my uterus dammit!


  78. Libellula saturata Annie says:

    Heh. Perhaps dear Arlen can form his own little party with Traitor Joe!


  79. Xisithrus says:

    I don’t know about ’safe’, Xisithrus. I mean, we’re talking about Zooey, right? ;) -=JES=-

    Yes


  80. Philip50 says:

    It is interesting that this rag only addresses issues that they feel favor the left. Where is the outrage over the wasteful, reckless, flyover of New York City? If this had happened under Bush’s watch, all h#ll would have broken loose. And they called Clinton the teflon president!


  81. Xisithrus says:

    Philip50 Says: It is interesting that this rag only addresses issues that they feel favor the left. Where is the outrage over the wasteful, reckless, flyover of New York City.

    Actually that was discussed in the threads. Wasteful would be the myriad trips to fly Dubya to his ranch for record vacation time by any president.


  82. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Proud Says:

    More projection from an ignorant punkass troll. You DO know you are a worthless piece of shite dont you punk? Everyone and I mean EVERYONE knows the stupidest people on the planet, like say YOU, are RePUNKlicans. He wants to get re-elected and he knows you morons are SO stupid that Rush does all your thinking for you and he will tell the brainwashed imbeciles like YOU to vote for the wingnut in the Primary. Since you people are WAY too stupid to think for yourself they will vote for who they are told for just like you morons think what you are told to.


  83. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    brothabildo Says:

    USA will collapse by 2012 for sure now and prove Kwasimoto correct from centuries back.
    _____________

    It’s Quasimoto” and he was the Hunchback of Notre Dame, you stone idiot.

    Perhaps you’re thinking of Nostradamus, moron.

    Really, isn’t it time to flag, flag, and flag again, folks?


  84. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    brothabildo Says:
    __________

    Yeah yeah yeah…

    Right right right…

    Rant ON!!!!


  85. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Hey MORON this is a lefty site. Are you too stupid to understand this? Does FreeRepublicanSewer.Idiot cover things that make the RIGHT look bad? Besides the flyover was nothing. They told the proper people who failed to tell the proper people. So WHAT? You people are such utter morons.


  86. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says:

    You people are such utter morons.
    ______________

    You left one word out of that description, Eugene…

    “such utter, DESPERATE morons…”

    See? Better, no?


  87. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    At first, I thought “Yea!” Now I have to add “I think.”

    I would have no problem with him voting with the Republicans now and again, but I have a BIG problem with him “joining” the Democratic Party and then voting against cloture on their bills. That is not right. He shouldn’t block things from coming to a vote just because he’s going to lose. That’s not Democracy, that Elementary School Sandbox Behavior.

    Right now, he’s just using the Democratic Party for his own selfish purposes: to get re-elected to the Senate. Pennsylvania Democrats would be wise to nominate someone else, and let the good Senator retire.


  88. Megaloptera McWars says:

    brotha, you’re on a wishful thinking spree. Can’t stop coming back for more. I thought you were booted for namejacking.


  89. hormiga brava chavez says:

    brothadildo=brothabill=lunacysquared
    philip50=ignoramous=lostinspace

    I’ve been waiting for you to show up with your psychobabble!
    You too philip50 – you fools love the verbal whippings.


  90. AlexLawyer says:

    Call me Cassandra, but I fear Greeks bearing gifts. Spector looks like a Trojan Horse to me.


  91. Xisithrus says:

    brothabildo Says:

    Bush, a politician like democrats like Pelosi and Reid. Fiddled while your country burned and took down the rest of the world with it.

    That was wall street that screwed the economy.

    You thinking your politicians can change their stripes is moronic.

    I dont recall ever saying that

    You deserve to fail as a nation. THere is NO WAY your country will survive this. It will break apart for sure and soon

    Well, sure, all fiat money systems and empires fail

    You want free stuff, you want free universal healthcare yet none of you studied your butts off for over a decade for a crap job listening to people complain and graduate with 150,000 to 200,000$ in debt

    Read the constitution and you will see it was supposed to be the government that coined money..IE their would be no public debt. Its not free healthcare its health insurance and if the government issued money it would not be a debt unto the people. I didnt make people go into debt for a degree, they chose to.

    You have no where near enough doctors for the fantasy land proposals every person having healthcare.

    Thats untrue, the service and healthcare sectors are growing.

    YOu dont have anywhere near the amount of doctors and doctors fed up with the lifestyle are leaving the profession at a huge rate.

    You repeat yourself.

    Do you people who actually work, do you people work for free?

    Do you?

    No, well thats why you wont have free healtcare despite the fantasy the politicians promised you lol.

    See, thats whats wrong. The way money is created is that it is lended into existence. Its why we have huge debts.

    Suckers! Nothing will change, there is no hope for you or the USA

    Well, the suckers, Billdo, are buying our debt thru treasury bills/bonds


  92. Megaloptera McWars says:

    Nothing seems to be changing because digging the country out of a rut tends to take a while. Even the best policies need time to permeate the landscape. President Obama inking his pen is only step one.


  93. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    brothabildo Says:

    I just laugh how USA tards dont address any topics but use juvenile name-calling and ad-hominem attacks.
    __________

    Ever since you stumbled into the place, fiddling w/ yourself nonstop, ALL you’ve done is throw pointless ad hominems around, fool.

    You haven’t brought up a single meaningful topic ONCE.

    You do you think you’re fooling? I actually feel sorry for you, having to live that sh*t-filled garbage can you call “my mind”.

    Juvenile name calling?

    Apparently you’re as equally unfamiliar w/ the concept of “irony” as you are w/ “meaningful topics”.

    Flag this ASSCL*WN outta here, folks.


  94. Wayne Ant Schneider says:

    There is nothing whatsoever “Earth-ending” about the year 2012. The only thing that will happen is that the Sun will rise (on Dec 21, I believe) in alignment with the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. This is when the Earth’s travels through the Galaxy bring it into a new Astronomical Age.

    So, neither the Mayans, nor Nostradamus, nor anyone else who thinks the world’s gonna end in 2012 are right. The only thing that could happen to humanity is a self-fulfilling prophecy, one where someone sets off a cataclysmic event just to bring about the “end of the world” (but, really, they mean the end of human life on Earth) as “predicted.” The more talk there is of the world ending in 2012, the more likely something like that might happen.

    As a species, we have evolved way beyond the need to believe our fate is written in the stars. It’s time to start acting like it.


  95. Xisithrus says:

    brothabildo Says:

    I just laugh how USA tards dont address any topics but use juvenile name-calling and ad-hominem attacks.

    I lost count the other day when you called people pu**ies many times and I have not, to this date, called you a name other than whats in your moniker.


  96. hormiga brava chavez says:

    AlexLawyer Says:

    I am confident that President Obama is still playing chess and that Specter will have to watch his step. More eyes are on him. One wrong move will cost Specter 2010.


  97. hormiga brava chavez says:

    brothadildo:

    If America fails – so does the rest of the world. Remember what happened when the market collapsed? We’ll all be working in rice paddies if we’re lucky – got it fool? You wish failure on America the beautiful you wish failure on yourself – understand dumba$$?


  98. RUCeriousMaggot! says:

    Spectre shows his Publican/DINO skin without the bat of an eye. The Democratic Caucus should give him a plum chairmanship. You know, the one where you get to eat prunes and crap all day. How about the undersubcommittee on late garbage collection.


  99. Megaloptera McWars says:

    Yes, we have shortage of primary care physicians. Instead of ridiculing the problem, propose a viable solution. I have one: carefully admit more students into public medical schools, encourage the same enrollment growth in private ones, and root out students with the aptitude for shortage fields and place incentives so they can declare those specialties (ie, student loan relief).

    Which brings me to another point: if doctors in a free-market based health system are exiting, what does that say about for-profit health care?


  100. pete says:

    Is it not odd that no “real” trolls ever call this freak on his anti-U.S.A. shtick?


  101. Ape-Man says:

    Chris Mathews was just on Olbermann. He knows all about the players on both sides going back to the quakers. He is so full of facts and specific events that i think he has trouble seeing the forest for all the trees in the way.


  102. Ape-Man says:

    @111 pete Says:

    say what again?


  103. dbadass says:

    Drunk Irishmen men are notorious pussies…


  104. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    brothapsycho say:

    This is awesome. USA will collapse by 2012 for sure now and prove Kwasimoto correct from centuries back. He predicted your failure

    Even for a troll this one is stupid beyond compare. Why is this scumbag NAMEJACKING troll allowed to post here?


  105. wiley says:

    What will happen to physician incomes?

    On the basis of the Canadian experience under national health insurance, we expect that average physician incomes should change little. However, the income disparity between specialties is likely to shrink.

    The increase in patient visits when financial barriers fall under a single-payer system will be offset by resources freed up by a drastic reduction in administrative overhead and physicians’ paperwork. Billing would involve imprinting the patient’s national health program card on a charge slip, checking a box to indicate the complexity of the procedure or service, and sending the slip (or a computer record) to the physician-payment board.

    link

    This is the writing style I expect from doctors, because I’ve read a lot of correspondence from doctors.


  106. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    dbadass, you don’t think brothadumbass is really Irish do you. He lacks a certain poetic refinement I’d expect from a drunken Irishman. A


  107. Ape-Man says:

    Remeber when Bush ruled on war crimes? Big speech about how following orders is no defence? Remember that?

    G.W. Bush can see clearly the issue of torture and war crimes when it’s Iraqi involved, but not when it’s our troops and officials involved.

    Does that not have direct corelation to what we have been discovering about all republicans. they cannot see their own hypocrisy. We have been victimized by the mentally challanged.

    This is big people!


  108. DontBeAJackass says:

    It is about damn time. Now my fellow conservatives can finally fill his Senate seat with someone who is not on the Obama-wagon.


  109. wiley says:

    He lacks the ordered mind and clarity I expect from a doctor. He’s probably another Republican who doesn’t want to associate with the GOP or the U.S. under Democratic leadership.


  110. Ape-Man says:

    They all have the same sickness or the same crookedness, it’s hard to tell.

    you gotta see this!

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#30464632


  111. Ape-Man says:

    Mr. Bush was absolutely right.
    The world will see the investigation, and justice will be
    served.


  112. pete says:

    Ding! Ding! RHF nailed it on the first try. There’s no prize but, thanks for playing.

    And…

    Aanother “new” troll to celebrate the purification of the Holy Party? Spin till you puke, trolls. The defection of a U.S. Senator, so close after a brutal election defeat, is a crushing blow even if the remaining base is too effing stupid to realize it.


  113. ElBruce says:

    brothabildo Says:

    You USA idiots…

    Still don’t care about your opinion. You have no stake in our politics, nor show any evidence of working with us. I’ll mention it once, and only once, in any thread which we both post. Beyond that, I’m just not interested in whatever it is you’re selling.

    .

    Philip50 Says:

    It is interesting that this rag only addresses issues that they feel favor the left.

    This is the blog for the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank. You know, in case you got lost wandering around on the Intertubes or something.

    .

    DontBeAJackass Says:

    It is about damn time. Now my fellow conservatives can finally fill his Senate seat with someone who is not on the Obama-wagon.

    Yeah *snicker* – good luck with that. *snort*


  114. Philip50 says:

    hormiga brava chavez Says:

    “brothadildo=brothabill=lunacysquared
    philip50=ignoramous=lostinspace

    I’ve been waiting for you to show up with your psychobabble!
    You too philip50 – you fools love the verbal whippings.”

    My response: By verbal whippings, you mean the ignorant, profane rantings so prolific on here? I will confess it is humorous, though very sad, to see you close-minded Bush-derangement psychos get all worked up. Some of you are probably already on death-row, or will be soon judging by the spewing of hatred and the amazing amount of time you have to do it.

    I tell you what I love: I love the Truth, even if it is not convenient, or PC. I love people who demonstrate respect for others, even those with whom they may not see eye to eye. I love loyalty and conviction (qualities that Sen. Specter appears to lack.). I love learning a new way of looking at things, even if does not fit with my convenient view of the world.

    I believe that strength lies in flexibility, being willing to change and grow, and being open to new concepts. You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm. I can hardly wait.


  115. flight says:

    brothabildo,
    your blog was quite interesting. Frankly, you’re not alone in your thinking. The reality is discourging. Capitalism went speculative, and the honest persuits of people have been diminished. I hope the country can be steered back to a productive path. There are no quick fixes. We didn’t get here overnight. I am pragmatic, but I am an optimist.

    random thoughts, flight


  116. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    DontBeAJackass Says:

    It is about damn time. Now my fellow conservatives can finally fill his Senate seat with someone who is not on the Obama-wagon.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    HAHA. In Pennsylvania? You people are so stupid. Dems will pick up another Senate seat. You and your fellow conservative morons can keep whining and enjoy your irrlevance for about a generation or so.


  117. Philip50 says:

    ElBruce says: “This is the blog for the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank. You know, in case you got lost wandering around on the Intertubes or something.”

    Mr response: You are definitely liberal…in your point of view and your profanity. You are very illiberal in being open to other ideas or thinking.


  118. FOIA Gras says:

    Sen. Specter’s opposition to Dawn Johnsen’s appointment to OLC is another example of his lack of fitness in the Democratic Party. This is why we need more than two enduring political parties as exist in most democracies around the world.


  119. katydid says:

    Rumor in Washington has it that Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) may step down from the chairmanship of the Appropriations Committee, giving the seat to Sen. Pat Leahy (D-VT) — and opening the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee to the new Democrat, Specter. From this post, Specter could indefinitely delay hearings on Johnsen, not to mention completely kill Leahy’s efforts to hold a truth commission to examine Bush’s use of torture and other illegal practices.

    dammitall… … … a new dread… … shit.


  120. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Face it Phil you are stupid. You have always been stupid you are always going to BE stupid. It is your destiny, a long string of days filled with your stupid. That is the only reason your Bush Idolotry Syndrome ever made sense to you. You are a moron. Those of us who could recognize reality were criticising Bush for good reason. His lies, and his incompetence which was obvious to anyone with an actual functioning cerebral cortex. You dont love truth. YOU love your delusional fantasies. You love that Rush or someother screechmonkey does your thinking for you and you have no brain just a tape recorder where a brain usually resides. You repeat, thinking is far beyond your meager capabilities.

    Nice try to insult us then tell us how OUR response will confirm something. If I walk into a bar and punch someone it isnt that impressive a feat to predict I will get into a fight. You are a punk a coward and a moron. That you are going to be treated like a punk a coward and a moron is only what you deserve. I would tell you to try something else but frankly I dont think you have anything else. You are just flat too stupid for anything else


  121. Ape-Man says:

    2131 Philip50

    Labels are important to you.

    We know how you think now. Think about that.


  122. dbadass says:

    Hi Philip50
    Can you share how you identify the “truths”which you love? I find as most thinkers through time that “truth” is a nebulous love…


  123. Ape-Man says:

    Kinda the way he likes ‘freedom’


  124. Philip50 says:

    As I stated earlier: “You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm.”

    As usual, Eugene does not disappoint in continuing to disappoint.


  125. Ape-Man says:

    What is the medical term for republicanism? Is it in wicoPedia?


  126. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Look Philip50 you bring the criticism on yourself. You always give negative comments without backing up what you say with facts. YOU STARTED WITH THE NAME CALLING: It is interesting that this rag only addresses issues that they feel favor the left.

    TP is not a rag and it’s offensive of you to say that. If you don’t like it – BEAT IT. DON’T LOGIN.


  127. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Hey you IGNORANT punkass troll. That word profanity? I dont think it means what you THINK it means. My GOD you are ignorant and you are NOT sacre, just a punk

    Mr response: You are definitely liberal…in your point of view and your profanity. You are very illiberal in being open to other ideas or thinking.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    You are definitly a moron. Very simplistic in your thinking and I use that term thinking in its broadest possible usage. You will never know if anyone here is open to other ideas. You cannot read minds and when you come in here being ignorant and insulting and showing nothing except what a moron you are, you just arent going to get any discourse on ideas. So either talk sense or STFU


  128. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    DontBeAJackass Says:

    It is about damn time. Now my fellow conservatives can finally fill his Senate seat with someone who is not on the Obama-wagon.

    I’ll have what he’s smoking.


  129. hormiga brava chavez says:

    PHILLIP50: THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN’T TAKE CRITICISM LIKE YOU GIVE IT!


  130. dbadass says:

    You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm. I can hardly wait


    Do you think this is the most effective way to approach thoughtful dialogue or do you think it risks you being read as pompous, boorish, and not the open minded intellectual truth lover you wish to be seen as?


  131. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    As I stated earlier: “You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm.”
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    That is right you came in and insulted us and then predicted that we wouldnt treat YOU with respect and pat your pointy little head. This is actually pretty simple. You act like a moronic punk, you get treated like a moronic punk and it really isnt that impressive to act like the ignorant punkass troll you are and then predict that you are going to be treated like the ignorant punkass troll you are.

    As usual, Eugene does not disappoint in continuing to disappoint.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Yeah I just dont stay up nights worrying about what you think about me. It isnt hard to guess how I am going to treat an ignorant cowardly punk like you. Thats right just like the ignorant cowardly punk you are. If you REALLY wanted something different than you MIGHT have TRIED something different. Then again you are stupid, and you are a punk so this pathetic BS is probably all you can bring


  132. dbadass says:

    You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm. I can hardly wait

    —-
    To date I have yet to met a deep thinker who attempts to make large brush generalizations prior to collecting the dataset…


  133. wiley says:

    What is the medical term for going to a progressive blog and complaining about liberalism?


  134. dbadass says:

    You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm. I can hardly wait

    Philip50:
    Is this an example of a “truth” you love or is this mostly just crap intended to make you feel more significant than others bsed on no real tangible evidences?


  135. ate r kel i d i0t says:

    HAHA, specter is your problem now! Good luck, please vote for him in the PA election in 2010….ull be doing the Republicans a favor!


  136. ate r kel i d i0t says:

    IMPEACH:

    worstbailoutintheworld.com

    Your friend,
    Keith Olbermann


  137. dbadass says:

    please vote for him in the PA election in 2010….ull be doing the Republicans a favor!
    ——-
    How so?


  138. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    wiley Says:

    What is the medical term for going to a progressive blog and complaining about liberalism?

    Schizophrenia?


  139. Philip50 says:

    dbadass Says:

    “To date I have yet to met a deep thinker who attempts to make large brush generalizations prior to collecting the dataset…”

    Nice try boys. I did my homework before challenging the moronic behavior and dialogue on here. I even posted numerous thoughtful, substantive comments, only to be met by eloquent comments like “STFU”. No, I am NOT the problem. This may be a TANK, but there is very little THINKing going on! So whether I am “a punkass troll” or not, show me you are capable of reasonable dissent, and I may come back. Otherwise, you guys can wallow in you own little pigpen, deluded into thinking you are in some way relevant.


  140. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    ate r kel i d i0t Says:

    IMPEACH:

    worstbailoutintheworld.com

    Your friend,
    Keith Olbermann

    FLAGGED – OFF TOPIC AND NAMEJACKING.


  141. Philip50 says:

    wiley Says:

    “What is the medical term for going to a progressive blog and complaining about liberalism?”

    Response: SERIOUSLY?! There is nothing “progressive” about the gutter language on here. Get real! Better yet, grow up!


  142. dbadass says:

    Philip50:
    Likes talk about truth and open minds and stuff. Where’d you go big guy. I was so looking forward to a nice chat. I even opened a nice red I wanted to share now I am just stuck with a gibberish yapper…


  143. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Nice try boys. I did my homework before challenging the moronic behavior and dialogue on here. I even posted numerous thoughtful, substantive comments,

    No you didn’t. You posted the talking points you learned from Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. We’ve heard it from rightwingers far superior to you. And that is sad.


  144. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Philip50 Says:

    wiley Says:

    “What is the medical term for going to a progressive blog and complaining about liberalism?”

    Response: SERIOUSLY?! There is nothing “progressive” about the gutter language on here. Get real! Better yet, grow up!

    Do you Republics do anything besides whine and complain?


  145. dbadass says:

    What gives Philip50you have to go because of others? So you get to makes some bs claims about cowardliness, and depth and such but when politely engaged you have to scramble? Seems sort of odd for such a deep thinker. I am not sure I buy it.Show me…


  146. Philip50 says:

    dbadass Says:

    Philip50:
    Likes talk about truth and open minds and stuff. Where’d you go big guy. I was so looking forward to a nice chat. I even opened a nice red I wanted to share now I am just stuck with a gibberish yapper…

    Response: dbadass, you seem like a decent person (in spite of your name). Can you have some influence on that psycho, Eugene? Then maybe we can discuss Truth.


  147. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    Hi took a break, anyone here grow a brain yet?

    You. Too bad you’re sitting on it.


  148. Doodlebug Shayne says:

    Philip50 Says:
    Response: dbadass, you seem like a decent person (in spite of your name). Can you have some influence on that psycho, Eugene? Then maybe we can discuss Truth.

    What a cop out. You are a phony not looking to discuss anything just call names.


  149. dbadass says:

    No but I am happy to make you look foolish without even employing mine…


  150. dbadass says:

    what’s wrong with my name? I come from a long line of badass’s


  151. Philip50 says:

    dbadass: I like your name. I am just jealous you got it first. When I tried to register it, they said it was taken!


  152. dbadass says:

    Sorry to hear that.
    So how is it exactly that you assess truth?


  153. Zooey says:

    Constitutional rights trashed, all children left behind, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, troops committing suicide at an alarming rate, corruption, corporate malfeasance, torture, and swine flu — and all the Phil50 troll is worried about is mother-f ucking naughty words.

    F uck that shit, you f ucking moron.


  154. dbadass says:

    I don’t do Taco Bell freakshow. I am an elitist doncha know? When you read back your silly shit do you feel warm inside? See I find negative attention seeking behaviors in electronic communities to be very interesting. Would you mind sharing your motivations. I am not kidding I study that sort of thing


  155. hormiga brava chavez says:

    brothabazillion=brothadildo=brothabill=stilllunacysquared!

    YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR ‘NAME’ BUT YOU CAN’T CHANGE THE CRAZY! OR DE STUPIT ROTFL!


  156. dbadass says:

    Hi Zooey:
    You know how I am about babes with saucy mouths…


  157. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philly

    You are a punkass troll and a particularly stupid one at that. You know it. I know it. Anyone that can read knows it. What kind of moron posts the idiotic insults you posted then tries to pretend he is above it all and has some kind of intellectual curiosity. You are a poser. You are stupid. It is clear. You KNOW you are too stupid to try intellectual give and take so you poison the dialogue then whine and snivel like the punk you are that WE are going to be mean to you. You are stupid, you are a coward and you are a punk. Its that simple


  158. Philip50 says:

    dbadass Says:

    “Sorry to hear that.
    So how is it exactly that you assess truth?”

    Deep question, dba. But then again, I guess I started it, didn’t I? I tell you what, let me sleep on my answer (not a copout), but I promise to respond, if you will do the same. I will look for you again soon, or vice versa.

    By the way, what happened to Eugene? Did the warden cut off his internet feed?


  159. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Repeats the only thing he has posted so far that would be
    WWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Give it up punk. You arent fooling anyone. You are stupid. You are a coward and you are a punk.


  160. Philip50 says:

    Oh, there you are, Eugene! Thank you for your honest assessment. Now I can sleep well! Don’t choke on your own vomit!


  161. ElBruce says:

    It occurs to me that Specter probably wants to keep his positions on open, short-term issues mostly the same even though he’s switching parties. Reversing a large number of his opinions quickly will make it look like he never really believed in anything in the first place. So we’re left with him still supporting a few things (like this) that he only supported due to party loyalty in the first place – now he’s got an opinion hanging with no reason whatsoever for it.

    After a while, it should play itself out and he’ll probably start making a little more sense.


  162. dbadass says:

    Since when does some acid turn people into a bunch of f ucking a ssh oles who disrespect others solely to seek attention? You must get really shit ty acid


  163. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    I’m a psycho because I treated YOU the way you treated us? More WWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH from you. You are stupid, you are a coward, you are a punk. IF you had any real interest in discourse I would mop the floor with you with facts logic and rhetoric, but you dont, you are a punk.


  164. Philip50 says:

    He buys it from Eugene.


  165. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    By the way, what happened to Eugene? Did the warden cut off his internet feed?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I dont LIVE on this site punk and YOU are too stupid and boring to hold my interest but come back and try real discourse some day so I can slap you around.


  166. dbadass says:

    Philip50:
    Why would I know what Eugene is up to? I think a better question might be what personality anomolies do you think brothabazillion struggles with?


  167. dbadass says:

    brothabazillion
    Would you like to have a conversation about any specific topic? I realize that as a behavioral research I may be a little unnerving at first but it is okay we can come up with a safety word for you if you wish. Magumbo might work…


  168. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    I havent been reading your stupidity because you are just going to get wiped away which is the only thing trolls like you deserve but attacking Zooey is really stupid. You arent fit to lick the bottom of her shoes. If only your trailer trash whore of a mother had half her class you probably would have been raised with half a brain and some sense instead of being a worthless cretin who blows lepers for pocketchange.


  169. Zooey says:

    brothabazillion Says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 11:51 pm

    Nice diversion. We all know you’re jacking off to a picture of your mom sucking off Karl Rove, while Limbaugh f ucks her ass.

    AGAIN.


  170. Philip50 says:

    Eugene says:

    “IF you had any real interest in discourse I would mop the floor with you with facts logic and rhetoric…blah, blah, blah.”

    Response: I double dare you to try that approach, atrax. If you can put two sentences together without being insulting or profane, I will be GLAD to debate you! From what I have seen, I don’t think you are capable of that, but, hey, hope reigns eternal!


  171. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Phil. Still a stupid cowardly punk. You are pathetic. Either grow up or STFU


  172. dbadass says:

    Waspy suburbia is hardly the fringe. Make up some silly ass shit that will amuse me after you are done explaining how any mind expansion spiritual transcendent denizon would see attacking another proven decent woman as a way to enlightenment


  173. Philip50 says:

    dbadass says:

    “Philip50: Why would I know what Eugene is up to? I think a better question might be what personality anomolies do you think brothabazillion struggles with?”

    Seems like a type of Dr. Strangelove. Sometimes he says something rather eloquent, then ruins it with his anti-American ranting before wafting off into his psychodelic drug fantasy. Perhaps he was a friend of Timothy O’Leary. You think?!


  174. dbadass says:

    No
    Timothy Leary sought meaningful “truths”


  175. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Response: I double dare you to try that approach, atrax. If you can put two sentences together without being insulting or profane, I will be GLAD to debate you! From what I have seen, I don’t think you are capable of that, but, hey, hope reigns eternal!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Says the PUNK who wrote THIS

    “You are, by and large, a very shallow and weak bunch of cowardly people, which your predictable response to me will undoubtedly confirm.” and this

    Otherwise, you guys can wallow in you own little pigpen, deluded into thinking you are in some way relevant.

    Why is it the REALLY stupid punks, like say, YOU, think you ought to treat US like you do then snivel like the punks you are when we treat you the way you treat us. Did you think God gave you the exclusive franchise on personal attacks and that they are all well and good when YOU do them but they make US just sooooo mean? Grow up punk. Post something other than your ignorant insults. Make a point. That is IF you have the intellectual capacity which I seriously doubt. Keep insulting then predicting we are going to be mean and you are just being pathetic


  176. hormiga brava chavez says:

    brothabazillion & phillip5:

    Here we go again with two man-things with small minds. The two of you never have any type of useful conversation. You two are the first to whine about being insulted but only have insults to offer. What’s the matter? Are you mad because you couldn’t obtain citizenship in the USA? Are you mad because you weren’t able to obtain sex changes? Are you mad because the GOP is full of losers like yourselves?

    Whatever you both are MAD about, I don’t really care. Just go away. You’re both useless fools who are losers wasting everyone’s time with worthless commentary.


  177. Philip50 says:

    I said: “If you can put two sentences together without being insulting or profane, I will be GLAD to debate you!”

    Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says:

    “Phil. Still a stupid cowardly punk. You are pathetic. Either grow up or STFU”

    Was that a “NO”, Eugene?


  178. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Brothamoron is a troll. Lonely because he is pathetic. His pitiful life is so drab and dismal that he comes into places like this and trolls. That is he posts whatever he thinks will get him some attention, ANY attention. To feel significant for just a few minutes. He knows he will have to go back to his sad and pathetic life where no one respects him and no one will give him a second of their time but while he is here he can get people to pay attention to him someone… ANYONE. Its one of the saddest things in the world.


  179. Philip50 says:

    Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says: “Make a point. That is IF you have the intellectual capacity which I seriously doubt.”

    Response: You first. Prove your own point.


  180. hormiga brava chavez says:

    brothabazillion: Dude you are seriously NUTZ!

    I am a God and I am speaking to you now…? WTF


  181. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Was that a “NO”, Eugene?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    That was an I dont do requests punk. You dont manipulate me. If you want a real conversation then lets see YOU put some meat on the table. MAKE A POINT and we will see if it is more of you insults then you KNOW what my response will be. Its all good to me. I can beat you in the debate halls I will follow you into the mud and beat you there too. Lets see what ya got.


  182. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Response: You first. Prove your own point.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    The response of a coward and a punk. I responded to YOUR insults. If you have a point to make then make it if you dont then you admit you are only here trolling your insults were provocation to say LOOK AT ME. Classic troll behavior.


  183. dbadass says:

    I think it is about time I sew this lizard’s eyes and mouth shut… I hate the pretenders…


  184. dbadass says:

    Hey pretend guy. You are getting way boring…


  185. Philip50 says:

    Eugene: I have always come on here to exchange ideas. I have read the garbage you continually spew out, and you manipulative techniques, so quit projecting that on me. My observations may have insulted you, because they are true. Look in the mirror, have a reality check, take an AmbienCR, and perhaps you will have the guts and civility to discuss something substantive tomorrow. Again, one can only hope.


  186. wiley says:

    Looks like a manic episode.


  187. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    205

    You are worthless. Do you think you can provoke us with such foolishness. I pity you. I live here. In a great country with great people. The richest country in the world. With the greatest most dominant military in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. You are a sad pathetic little cockroach who is jealous and that is a sad thing. You cant escape the pathetic nature of your worthless existance by being a jerk on a website. You need to work on yourself until someone you can look in the eye can stand to be in your putrid presence. You need to make YOUR life worth living and you cant do that by lying and being a moron on the internet. You can spend time here being a jerk. Trying to run us down but we KNOW what the reality is. You have only your hate and hysteria. Try to make YOURSELF a decent human being. Dont worry about us.


  188. dbadass says:

    Isn’t there anything for a drunken mentally unstable pretend ex medical student to do while living a fantasy walkabout in the Outback?


  189. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    207

    Yeah. I thought so. Another response of a cowardly punk. You KNOW you cant bring substance. You are too stupid. I am the opposite of manipulative. I am mostly responsive. I amuse myself with trollstabbing but YOU came in here and insulted the bunch of us. There was no truth in it. It was the conversational equivalent of puking on the rug. You are just another sad little punk that wishes he had what it takes to enter the world of intellectual discourse but KNOWS he is too stupid to be taken seriously so you try to be a poser. You are sad and pathetic. Either cough up a point or you are exposed for the pitiful loser we both know you are.


  190. Philip50 says:

    Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says to 205: “You have only your hate and hysteria. Try to make YOURSELF a decent human being.”

    Response: Good advise, Eugene. Are you looking in your mirror yet?

    Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says: “You are just another sad little punk that wishes he had what it takes to enter the world of intellectual discourse but KNOWS he is too stupid to be taken seriously so you try to be a poser. You are sad and pathetic. Either cough up a point or you are exposed for the pitiful loser we both know you are.”

    Response: You first, Socrates. I’m sorry, that was simply more projection, wasn’t it.


  191. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Just keep flagging “brotha-whoever” and move on. He has said nothing new, just the same tripe day after day, thread after thread.

    Hi, dbadass, yes, I know your policy. BTW, don’t forget to let us know when you might be passing by. The apple trees at the orchard next door are all blossoming a tad early.


  192. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Response: Good advise, Eugene. Are you looking in your mirror yet?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I know you are but what am I? You are a sad and boring little punk

    Response: You first, Socrates. I’m sorry, that was simply more projection, wasn’t it.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    I am a liberal on a liberal website who talks to my peers. I come here to be with those of my own. YOU are a conservative punk who came here to troll and provoke us with insults. I have nothing to prove. I am a known commodity here. I am sure many of the liberals arent that happy with me but they KNOW I can bring substance if it is called for. NO ONE has seen anything from you but poser insults and cowardly punkass trolling. So make a point or you are exposed for the pathetic loser you are. Oh you can see how many different ways you can say I know you are but what am I but its pretty boring and was stupid when I first heard it in second grade. you dont really think you are fooling anyone do you?


  193. ElBruce says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    My thoughts are from lsd revelations from years back>

    Awesome. I’ll be sure to listen to you now!

    .

    brothabazillion Says:

    Dont confuse me with him. I am a God and the living incarnate of the spirits which made Carlos Castaneda write a book.

    … the title of which escapes you right now. Revelation: Castaneda wrote a bunch of books!

    .

    Philip50 Says:

    Response: No, U!

    Response: No, U!

    Tag, you’re it.


  194. ElBruce says:

    Check this out, Mitch McConnell refers to Specters defection as “a threat to the country:”

    “I think the threat to the country presented by this defection really relates to the issue of whether or not in the United States of America our people want the majority to have whatever it wants without restraint, without a check or a balance”

    In short, “the U.S. Constitution guarantees my party 41 Senators, no matter who people actually vote for or what those representatives decide.”

    Also uses the term “single-party rule.” This is all the Republican party has for people to be scared of now – their own extinction.


  195. Philip50 says:

    Eugene: Sorry to rain on your so-called “liberal” (seems rather intolerant and close-minded to me) website, but I love a challenge. Your juvenile insults get me fired up to see how “liberal” you guys really are in your thinking. Hopefully, you will respond intellectually the next time we meet, as you claim that you can. I can’t wait to see if you can pull it off.


  196. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    ElBruce Says:

    WOW. Ya gotta admire the guys hutzpa on the other hand making sense is obviously not his strong suit. At what point did people like Mitch lose so much respect for the intelligence of the American people that he thinks he can say things like this and not be laughed off the planet. It is a threat to the country for Republicans to lose all the elections????? The man needs professional help


  197. ElBruce says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    The USA is as doomed and as likely as you becoming a lesbian b/c you cant stand liberal men, who are all bisexual anyways and spread HIV to the rest of the world while they snort coke and other drugs that destroy South America and the environment.
    But while still high on the drugs you sell to S. American drug cartels.

    You have it backwards sir, and I for one am offended!

    Our lesbians and bisexual liberal men with HIV purchase drugs from S. American cartels!

    Keep it straight next time.

    But do, please go on. You’re on SUCH a roll!


  198. wiley says:

    Swear It

    My mother swore ripely, inventively
    a flashing storm of American and Yiddish
    thundering onto my head and shoulders.
    My father swore briefly, like an ax
    descending on the nape of a sinner.

    But all the relatives on my father’s
    side, gosh, they said, goldarnit.
    What happened to those purveyors
    of soft putty cussing, go to heck,
    they would mutter, you son of a gun.

    They had limbs instead of legs.
    Privates encompassed everything
    from bow to stern. They did
    number one and number two
    and eventually, perhaps, it.

    It has always amazed me there are
    words too potent to say to those
    whose ears are tender as baby
    lettuces–often those who label
    us into narrow jars with salt and

    vinegar, saying, People like them,
    meaning me and mine. Never say
    the K or N word, just quietly shut
    and bolt the door. Just politely
    insert your foot in the Other’s face.

    ~Marge Piercy


  199. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    Philip50 Says:

    Sure it seems closed minded that after you call us names we dont roll over and cry please dont hurt me anymore and instead slap you around and show what a poser and punkass troll you are. I am here when I am here. BRING some substance you will see substance but I wont be holding my breath. I dont think you have what it takes. I think you are a poser who YEARNS to be taken seriously but deep down knows you are too stupid to deserve it. Most likely next time we will get more of the same

    Phil all you liberals are blah blah this and blah blah that watch how you are so mean to me

    Phil after responses WWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I told you that you would be mean to me WWWWAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH.
    Grow up and man up punk. Put some meat on the table or stop even PRETENDING that you are capable of doing so.


  200. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    I bet I-HOP is hiring greeters, Arlen…
    … At least there, flip-flops are expected, too.

    .


  201. ElBruce says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    …and I am laughing at you as we speak.

    As I imagine you, you never stop laughing, ever. I also suspect you type with your forehead.

    .

    brothabazillion Says:

    Tell me how you can spend yourself into debt and save your economy lol?

    I am not your personal economics textbook. But I highly recommend you skim over one sometime.


  202. wiley says:

    Brotha— I have a job. I have been to college. I have known some world-class scholars and professors. You are not well-educated. You are not articulate. Your thought process is disorderly and repetitive to such a degree that I have to wonder, in all seriousness, if you have an affective disorder.

    I have flagged you because you cannot stay on topic at all, you have been posting the same rant for days, and you are very close to announcing that you can eat glass.


  203. wiley says:

    An economics textbook? Brotha also described med school as countless hours in front of textbooks. I wonder what community college he went to?


  204. wiley says:

    What “real” intellectual discussion, brotha? You’ve done nothing but rant. There is no brilliance in your posts. I know it may be hard for you to believe, but we’ll get along fine without you.


  205. mstar57 says:

    Arlen Spector is and always has been a absolute stinking piece of shit… I hope the Democrats pay a heavy political price for selling us out! Here’s a quote from Glen Greenwald that puts this into context:

    “Arlen Specter is one of the worst, most soul-less, most belief-free individuals in politics. The moment most vividly illustrating what Specter is: prior to the vote on the Military Commissions Act of 2006, he went to the floor of the Senate and said what the bill “seeks to do is set back basic rights by some 900 years” and is “patently unconstitutional on its face.” He then proceeded to vote YES on the bill’s passage.”

    Greenwalds entire article: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/


  206. wiley says:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    You mean that free speech?


  207. wiley says:

    I’ve been a caregiver for nine years. Go p*ss up a rope.


  208. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    Quite clearly I am not faking it and also under bildobaggins which I posted under here until the fascists tried to limit my free speech.
    __________

    Dude, you are SOOOOOOOOOO full of sh*t, little jets of it squirt out your ears every time one of your feet hits the ground.


  209. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    I think that the Democratic party needs to make it very clear to Specter that if he wants their support in 2010, he’s going to have to vote like he is a Democrat and not like he is a Republican.

    Personally I don’t trust Specter. What’s to stop him from switching back to a Republican if he is re-elected?


  210. wiley says:

    No. I don’t wipe butts. I have saved a life. And I don’t believe you’re a doctor—doctors usually appreciate the work of caregivers and see it as part of the whole caring process.


  211. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    brothabazillion Says:
    Quite clearly I am not faking it and also under bildobaggins which I posted under here until the fascists tried to limit my free speech.

    Limited your free speech? Would that be anything like every conservative blog site not allowing progressives to post? Most like redstate ban you within the hour if you post something contrary to their point of view. The only conservative site I know that allows progressives to post is Politico and that’s only because they are trying to maintain the illusion that they are “fair and balanced” even though everyone knows they are the Fixed News of the Internet.


  212. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    brothabildo Says:
    Do you people who actually work, do you people work for free?

    No troll, I no longer work thanks to your President that imploded our economy. I would much rather be working than blogging, but I have no choice in the matter.


  213. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    You are a stupid pathetic lonely loser and you cant read minds. Actually I am over 50 have a great job that makes six figures and have had it more than thirty years. You are a moron looking for attention. It wont do anything to heal your pain or fix your pathetic life. So keep up your hysterical hate filled idiocy and jealousy. It means little to me except I feel so sorry for you. You are sad.


  214. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    brothabazillion Says:

    Why are you asking ME questions? When its time for your trailer trash whore of a mother to take a break from blowing lepers for pocketchange shouldnt you ask HER who your daddy is? I mean most certainly she wont know but you can ASK


  215. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    My GOD you are stupid Brothamoron. You have NO free speech right to post on a private website. No more than I have a right to put up a billboard in your front yard.


  216. wiley says:

    A cardiologist saving lives on a website that advertises anabolic steroids.

    1. Early effects are seen as changes in mood and euphoria: there is an increase in confidence, energy and self-esteem, with enhanced motivation and enthusiasm. There is also diminished fatigue, sleeplessness and an ability to train through pain. Libido may be decreased, but is more often increased, sometimes markedly. Irritability, anger, agitation and a “strange edgy feeling” are commonly reported.

    2. With larger doses or after taking anabolic steroids for a longer time, there is a loss of inhibition and a lack of judgement, with mood swings or grandiose ideas. Prolonged users become suspicious, quarrelsome, impulsive and more aggressive.

    3. Severe effects manifest when these aggressive feelings increase to the extent that violent, hostile, antisocial behaviour develops, meriting the descriptive title, well known in the steroid-taking community, of “roid rages”. These rages can result in property damage, self-injury (including reckless driving or crashing cars), assaults, marriage break-ups, domestic violence, child abuse, suicide, attempted murder or murder.

    Several psychiatric disorders have been reported in association with anabolic steroid use since the first case was described in 1980. The full list includes schizophrenia, hypomania and mania, delerium, depression, suicide, and paranoia.

    The major side effects of anabolic steroid use include liver tumors, jaundice (yellowish pigmentation of skin, tissues, and body fluids), fluid retention, enlargement of the heart, (a precursor to heart failure), high blood pressure, atherosclerosis or hardening of the arteries, (a precursor to coronary heart disease) elevated cholesterol levels, heart palpitations, heart attack, and finally steroids can impair the kidneys leading to kidney stones and kidney disease.

    link
    link


  217. kassandrasduplex says:

    Well at least Obama and Specter appear to be in agreement with each other on the Employee Free Choice Act! Specter pulled his support, thereby almost certainly dooming the bill and Obama said nothing, commission by omission.


  218. wiley says:

    Maybe he’s busy being the president, and Congress is busy being Congress.


  219. Wiz says:

    Specter’s spine is about as strong as wet cardboard. He “starts” to show firm resolve and then he crumbles, he did this related to Bush’s actions many times, but ususally he resolve only lasted about a day. Democrats can control him by threatening a primary challenge if he goes off script. Afterall a primary challenge is why he left the Repubs, he can hardly go back now. He will fall in line.


  220. Doom Siren says:

    While I applaud anyone coming to their senses, I don’t completely trust Specter, and until he earns his stripes, I wouldn’t recommend any of Democratic officials doing so either.

    But that’s just me. I don’t have trust issues. I just don’t trust anybody.


  221. KayInMaine says:

    I think from this day forward Specter should wear a dunce cap so we Americans can pick him out quickly on the floor of the Senate when we’re watching C-SPAN2. It would make things easier. Maybe give one to Joe Lieberman to wear too would also help.


  222. trevinla says:

    Who cares how he votes on the actual vote, as long as he votes for closure!


  223. DeweyGland says:

    Never much liked Specter and certainly don’t trust him.
    Don’t like the way he states one thing and then votes another way.
    Like with his vocal opposition to Bush nominees… We need progressive Democrats, not more Yellow Dogs.


  224. dlo2 says:

    Come on Spector, did the Neocons send you to the Democratic party as their Trojan horse? You’re a fool.


  225. kevsters says:

    Democrats welcome Specter, but should true progressives welcome him?

    I am a bit concerned that Specter switching into the Democratic primary will prohibit new blood being infused into the Senate. In particular, Congressman, Joe Sestak. He is a military vet, and a true progressive; that combination is hard to find.

    See how important organizations rate Specter on his voting history below.

    http://progressnotcongress.org/blog/?p=545




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