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Secession-ready Texas has received most federal disaster assistance of any state.

Just weeks after declaring that Texas might secede from the union because “the federal government has become oppressive,” Gov. Rick Perry (R) today asked for more federal aid when he “issued a disaster declaration” because of the swine flu. Mother Jones’ Jonathan Stein found that, since the beginning of FEMA’s record-keeping, Texas has actually received more federal assistance from FEMA than any other state:

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A FEMA spokesman told Stein “that a major disaster declaration is issued when a governor ‘determines the state’s resources are overrun.’” FEMA reimburses at least 75 percent of the state’s recovery costs; currently, the federal govenrment is covering 100 percent of Texas’ Hurricane Ike recovery effort.



80 Responses to “Secession-ready Texas has received most federal disaster assistance of any state.”


  1. joe cantwell says:

    they’re an independent bunch,

    ain’t they?

    :)


  2. PrahaPartizan says:

    It’s time for Texans to pay for their own damned problems. Those of us in the Northeast have state governments which fund agencies to perform much of which Texas sloughs off unto the Federal government. Let those “live free and die” states’ righters fund their own government. It’s time to grow up, boys.


  3. Levi the Dungbeetle says:

    This is hilarious irony. You just can’t make this stuff up.


  4. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Whoa! I guess Perry made that comment about seceding a little too soon. Oh the irony…


  5. MapleStreet says:

    To think a little in a sinister way:

    A disaster occurs when the governor determines that the state’s resources are overwhelmed.

    So does this mean that TX got hit with worse “luck” than other states

    -or-

    The thinking of Texas (to avoid taxes to build resources) coupled with the Bush as governor has led to a state that despite being the biggest state of the lower 48 is a state that has paid nothing to building the infrastructure for dealing with natural disasters ??? (Of course, as Molly Ivins explains, TX has great roads so they can pay out money to a very influential lobbying group)

    And if TX is so independent, how come it doesn’t take the basic measures to deal with likely disasters ?


  6. MapleStreet says:

    Oh, how come I don’t hear the radio pundits castigating Texas for asking for money for Swine flu when we know that it is all just an academic hoax ?


  7. hormiga brava chavez says:

    American Patsy Says:

    Are you GOPERwingnuts still harping on the birth certificate nonsense?! ROTFL!


  8. RealityCheck says:

    First off the writer of this fails to say that TEXAS PAYS the most into FEMA dumbazzes. I would also point out the fact that Texas took in millions of rejects from New Orleans who sucked on the FEMA Tit…until this day.

    So before all you lefties get your panties in a wad over this BS story…you might want to think things through!


  9. spring heeled jack says:

    Even the stupid is big down there.


  10. benji85 says:

    maybe that’s why they think the federal government is too big for them. stop asking for money!


  11. KayInMaine says:

    As Jay Leno quipped on his show recently….as soon as Texas secedes from the nation, America should invade it and steal it’s oil!

    Hey, the Republic of Texas owes us since it’s taken most of our money over the years.


  12. spring heeled jack says:

    Lee Harvey @8, are you ever on topic, old sport?


  13. Mike71654 says:

    Amazing, 8 of the top 10 are RED STATES!!


  14. KayInMaine says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    First off the writer of this fails to say that TEXAS PAYS the most into FEMA dumbazzes. I would also point out the fact that Texas took in millions of rejects from New Orleans who sucked on the FEMA Tit…until this day.

    So before all you lefties get your panties in a wad over this BS story…you might want to think things through!
    April 30th, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Think things through? A neocon is saying this, you know, the guy with the cannonball head where truth bounces off and lands on the ground near it’s talons? Wow neocon! You’re reaching if you think we liberals never think things through!

    By the way, got a link proving Texas pays the most to FEMA (which is so funny because when Americans pay their taxes, it’s divided up! It’s not like Texas writes a personal check to FEMA at Christmas time to say ‘thanks’ for all they do!)?


  15. tombaker says:

    RC – you wouldn’t know the truth if it blew the roof off your house. your inveterate lying is of the very lowest order, and you should have to stand in a soup line every day until you die, you sik, twisted, phuk.

    WHO benenfits from the dread “socialism”?

    WE ALL DO!!!!!

    Even pissy-pantsed redenck fundies.


  16. KayInMaine says:

    #
    #
    American Patsy Says:

    Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest right now by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON’T!
    April 30th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Hey American Taliban Patsy,

    I wrote about this subject awhile back on my blog. I included a picture of my son’s birth certificate AND PRESIDENT OBAMA’S:

    http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/03/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-from-the-state-of-hawaii/

    The republican Governor of Hawaii has confirmed that the birth certificate at Vital Records is the sure thing.

    Where’s your proof that your lie & deceit is the truth?


  17. RealityCheck says:

    WHO benenfits from the dread “socialism”?

    The people like you who never work and have your parents and the federal government support you. The rest of us hard working Americans get the shaft as usual.

    Blow some more weed with your buddy dstankass.


  18. spring heeled jack says:

    Amen, Kay. Give us a link, RC. Your bold, cap-locked, claim seems quite dubious, playa.


  19. Hoodathunktick says:

    Eight of the top ten FEMA suckers are red states. Tornado Alley runs right through the red states. States most hit with hurricanes…red.

    But their god luvs em. /snark


  20. KayInMaine says:

    The American Taliban gets dumber and more paranoid by the day. Would someone please hit their backs to stop the lies?!!!!


  21. Xisithrus says:

    Realitea Check Spouted: The rest of us hard working Americans get the shaft as usual.

    Wait. I have never seen a bankster break a sweat or get the shaft yet you support them without wailing.


  22. WaltinTexas says:

    Perry is a joke (as are most Texas politicians- Bush, Hutchison, Cornyn, Barton, etc). Perry talks his Reich-wing BS one day, asks for the Fed’s help the next. I haven’t voted for a winning Gov in my state since Ann Richards.


  23. joe cantwell says:

    RealityCheck Says:
    WHO benenfits from the dread “socialism”?

    The people like you who never work and have your parents and the federal government support you. The rest of us hard working Americans get the shaft as usual.

    Blow some more weed with your buddy dstankass.

    ***

    you must talking about the

    people’s republic of texas,

    comrade.

    :)


  24. Jim Wolf359 says:

    Not Reality Check says @ # 10
    Speaking of thinking Numbnuts.


  25. 08Dariana says:

    I really don’t get why Republicans even try that argument, it’s simply logical that blue states put more money in taxes because they don’t cut taxes easily.
    While Red state cuts as low as possible and beg for money.


  26. Xisithrus says:

    Actually Soetoro was Mrs Dunhams second husband, her first husband was named Obama.

    And Barack was conceived in Maui, Ann Dunham was three months pregnant and by conservative logic that was when he became a life. Right?

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-3,00.html


  27. The Republic of Hymenoptera Stupidity says:

    By any chance, does Texas consider Bush one of those 83 declared disasters???


  28. KayInMaine says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    WHO benenfits from the dread “socialism”?

    The people like you who never work and have your parents and the federal government support you. The rest of us hard working Americans get the shaft as usual.

    Blow some more weed with your buddy dstankass.
    April 30th, 2009 at 8:18 pm

    Where does your tax money go, RC? List out the names of the people in America who are personally benefiting from your measly dollars and makes sure to list which parts of our government receive the most of your money despite helping out these individuals. Thanks pal.


  29. barfly says:

    First off the writer of this fails to say that TEXAS PAYS the most into FEMA dumbazzes.

    Because he doesn’t want to look like a dumb-shit? I think it was intentional.


  30. joe cantwell says:

    Jim Wolf359 Says:
    Not Reality Check says @ # 10
    Speaking of thinking Numbnuts.

    ***

    reality christ is lonely

    so cut him some slack, ok?

    ;\


  31. Xisithrus says:

    Ann Dunham was three months pregnant when she married Obama Sr, that is.


  32. Hoodathunktick says:

    RealityCheck Says:
    WHO benenfits from the dread “socialism”?

    Just a SWAG but…society?


  33. KayInMaine says:

    Sarah Palin was pregnant when she had her shotgun wedding to Todd Palin. Of course, she didn’t want this little fact to ever slip out because it would have made her church friends drop their snakes and stop speaking in tongues. One day she’s at a campaign rally with John McCain and says, “Today is my wedding anniversary!”, but when a few liberals looked at the age of Track and the date of her marriage to Todd, it was found Sarah was 2-3 months along when she married Todd!

    Ooospie.

    By the way, HOW COME SARAH PALIN HASN’T SHOWED AMERICANS TRIG PALIN’S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? I thought you right wingers never had anything to hide? Oh wait. You point fingers at liberals and blame us for the things that you do! Nevermind!


  34. barfly says:

    Secession-ready Texas has received most federal disaster assistance of any state.

    The Real Texas Panhandle.


  35. joe cantwell says:

    Xisithrus Says:
    Actually Soetoro was Mrs Dunhams second husband, her first husband was named Obama.

    And Barack was conceived in Maui, Ann Dunham was three months pregnant and by conservative logic that was when he became a life. Right?

    http://www.time.com/ time/ nation/ article/ 0,8599,1729524-3,00.html

    ***

    “conservative logic”

    oxymoron.

    ;)


  36. KayInMaine says:

    Here’s a fun little website….

    http://f**kthesouth.com/

    (TP won’t let me post this website for some reason. Maybe because of the F-word in it? Could be. Copy and paste this address into the search bar and then fix the first part of the address where I’ve included “**”. Thanks)

    It was written after the 2004 election by a guy in New York who was furious with George Bush who said that he had a mandate over Americans after that election.


  37. angels81 says:

    Patsy, whats the big deal with the birth certificate stuff? Obama has already told us he was born on Krypton, and Joel is his father.


  38. KayInMaine says:

    Angels81, I thought Obama said he wasn’t born in a manger despite what the neck droolers were saying? LOL


  39. Hoodathunktick says:

    Hey folks, take these Republicans seriously. Gov Perry was recently calling for his state to secede to protest sending taxes to Washington.

    Now he is begging for more money.

    Believe it folks, they have a new plan.


  40. angels81 says:

    KayInMaine, the neck droolers just can’t get it right. Obama’s planet blew up and he came here in a rocket ship and a little red cape.


  41. Jackie says:

    Texas will again cry Secession after they get help. Yes it’s all in hopes of Gov. Perry getting to be Republican nominee for President. He really could care less about the citizens it’s working that Crhistian Religious base he’s working.


  42. Hoodathunktick says:

    Sorry angels81 but the Republican shtick is the whole Messiah thing, not Big Blue. He stands for Truth, Justice and the American Way.


  43. KayInMaine says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt,

    On the link @ #18, I posted a picture of my son’s birth certificate. When I took a picture of it, the Maine State Seal did not show up……until I turned it over and took a picture of it. This is the same thing that happened when Obama’s birth certificate was photographed.


  44. Hoodathunktick says:

    of course, there is the illegal alien thing.


  45. Xisithrus says:

    “conservative logic”

    oxymoron.

    Leave Limbaugh AlOoOoOoOoNnNnNnEeEe!!


  46. EmTee says:

    Texas IS a disaster.


  47. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    American Patsy Says:

    Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest right now by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON’T!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    OH MY GOD. You morons are just such LIARS. The photocopy has BEEN RELEASED. It has been examined. The Sec of State of Hawaii personally looked at the original and SAID IT WAS THERE. The bottom line is you are LIARS. NOTHING Obama does will stop you from LYING.


  48. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    RealityCheck Says:

    You ignorant punkass troll. Just go kill yourself. You add nothing to the world. You are a liar a fool and a punk.


  49. katy says:

    OH MY GAWD.

    i can’t believe you all BIT on the birth certificate bait,
    much less nibbled…

    Secession-ready Texas has received most federal disaster assistance of any state.


  50. RandomChaos says:

    K.i.M,
    Thanks for the “Fun site” link.


  51. Bluestocking says:

    Just weeks after declaring that Texas might secede from the union because “the federal government has become oppressive,” Gov. Rick Perry (R) today asked for more federal aid when he “issued a disaster declaration” because of the swine flu. Mother Jones’ Jonathan Stein found that, since the beginning of FEMA’s record-keeping, Texas has actually received the most federal assistance from FEMA than any other state.

    ****************************************************

    Memo to Perry — And guess what? If Texas decides to secede from the union, you can say goodbye to all that lovely federal assistance. Perhaps you should consider siphoning a few thousand from the precautionary funds marked for swine flu and have someone cure that nasty case of foot-in-mouth disease from which you appear to be suffering.

    Hang on…wait a minute. Now that I think about it, does anyone happen to know what the conditions or requirements are for a nation applying for foreign aid from the United States? Frankly, I wouldn’t put it past someone like Perry to try that…secede and then apply for foreign aid to make up for the fact that they’re no longer getting federal aid!


  52. eve says:

    The secession garbage is ridiculous, of course. Perry is a dope. Huge embarrassment. The male Sarah Palin.

    But at lot of that FEMA money was due to Hurricane Katrina when Texas immediately took in and fed and sheltered thousands of people from Louisiana. Dallas and Houston as well as the state spent millions. And much of that was reimbursed.

    I don’t like Perry, but he did do a very good job of coordinating the Katrina response.

    Going ballistic on a whole state because the dopey governor said something really stupid is a lot like what the freepers do. Be a little patient. Texas is going back blue.


  53. Zooey says:

    American Patsy Says:

    The Sec of State of Hawaii personally looked at the original and SAID IT WAS THERE.

    Where is it, now?
    April 30th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    Where is YOUR original birth certificate?


  54. tombaker says:

    hp – you better hurry up and shoot some deputies,

    to show how Uh-merikin U rilly is.


  55. tombaker says:

    Thanks, hateful idiot righties,

    for once again demonstrating what kind

    of hateful idiots

    righties really are.


  56. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    American Patsy Says:

    The Sec of State of Hawaii personally looked at the original and SAID IT WAS THERE.

    Where is it, now?
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<,

    The Hall of records in Honolulu where it belongs you do KNOW that when you ask for a birth certificate they give you a copy and keep the original RIGHT? This is a non issue and only the stupidest and most brainwashed cretinous wingnuts are still on about it. They have shown a copy of the Honolulu paper at time showing his birth anouncement. It is just too desperate and ludicrous for anyone with a shred of self respect to be taken in by.


  57. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    hp Says:
    Where’s HeyZeus’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

    Did Jesus run for president? Next.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Obamas birth certificate has been shown, examined and verified MORON. Next.


  58. Eugene atrax robustus Debs says:

    hp Says:

    You *SOUND* like an ISLAMIC TERRORIST s

    No, they applaud the fact obama hoodwinked a good chunk of the world.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    The only one hoodwinked is YOU. Do you enjoy being an incredibly stupid piece of ignorance or is it just that you are so stupid you have no other option?


  59. christopher wiwi says:

    Red state socialism,ironic ain`t it!


  60. christopher wiwi says:

    Is this more of the Reich wing re branding ?


  61. Intrepid says:

    http://www.factcheck.org/ elections-2008/ born_in_the_usa.html

    The truth about Obama’s birth certificate.
    Summary
    In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document’s authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is “fake.”

    We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

    Reich-wingers = Anti-American SCUM!

    Next, the teabaggers will be calling birth certificates liberal media.


  62. Intrepid says:

    I think the morally correct naming of American Patsy should be American Pussy.


  63. Intrepid says:

    These racist teabaggers hate the sight of a black man in the oval office which is the reason they lie about Obama in the first place.

    Reich-wingers = Anti-American SCUM!

    Kick them the fcuk out of the country.


  64. Intrepid says:

    Hey American Pussy, Do you have any evidence to the contrary that proves Obama was born in Kenya for example, A KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE BARING HIS NAME? You don’t. Because NONE EXISTS. Stop with the lying little troll girl.

    Here is your America hating ass:

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    STFU! Hitch up your home and tow it along with your inbred hillbilly teabagging self out of the country since you hate America so much you racist moron.


  65. ElBruce says:

    American Patsy Says:

    Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest right now by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON’T!

    But he DID!

    But entertaining your fantasy, this would put the issue to rest of Texas receiving disaster funding how?

    .

    RealityCheck Says:

    First off the writer of this fails to say that TEXAS PAYS the most into FEMA dumbazzes.

    No they don’t. FEMA doesn’t work that way. It’s a federal agency, not an insurance pool.

    .

    RealityCheck Says:

    I would also point out the fact that Texas took in millions of rejects from New Orleans who sucked on the FEMA Tit…until this day.

    I should have known you’d find a way to blame black people for this.

    .

    RealityCheck Says:

    The people like you who never work…

    You know why this argument always plops to the ground with a wet smacking sound without getting anywhere? Because all the people you’re arguing with work. You should try something else.

    .

    Eugene atrax robustus Debs Says:

    The Hall of records in Honolulu where it belongs you do KNOW that when you ask for a birth certificate they give you a copy and keep the original RIGHT?

    I think the wingnuts keep demanding the original get put in their hands so they can destroy it.


  66. PeorgieTirebiter says:

    “…a major disaster declaration is issued when a governor determines the state’s resources are overrun.”

    I guess our “rainy day” fund, currently a snick over 9 billion, is kept in a box marked King’s X.
    It takes a Republican to say hurricane Rita and Ike weren’t really “rainy days”, a to say it with a straight face. Dear America, please send us more Democrats, we only need a few more to put us over the top.
    Operators Are Standing By.


  67. ElBruce says:

    Intrepid Says:

    Hey American Pussy, Do you have any evidence to the contrary that proves Obama was born in Kenya for example, A KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE…

    Well, his grandmother said in passing one time that she thought she remembered that he had been born in Kenya. Such “proof” obviously trumps the word of him, his mother, his other grandmother, the state of Hawaii, and a number of newspapers.



  68. Perry logan says:

    Texas is the poster child for conservative-libertarian policies.

    Texas has long been run by libertarian-conservative policies. (Even when Texas was Democratic, it was mostly conservative Dixiecrats.)

    The result? Texas has the worst schools, the worst health care, the worst social services, the worst roads, the worst zoning laws, the worst justice department, the worst schools, the worst pollution, and–as you can see–the worst Governor.

    If they seceded, they would be dead within weeks.


  69. Sven Ortmann says:

    The only meaningful + available variable is whether or not Texas pays net more to the Federals than it receives.


  70. lzcrmc says:

    Actually, the headline for this post and the one it linked to are a little off – at least at this point. Texas has declared more federal emergencies than any other state but the post doesn’t have any data on how much money any of the states actually received. (It probably will turn out to be the most but, until that is documented, a little more accuracy, please.)

    Having said that, I’m trying to see what the downside for the rest of us would be if Texas did secede. No John Cornyn. No Kate Bailey Hutchinson. No Dallas Cowboys. Let ‘em go …

    And Sven (89), you’re wrong, regardless of the net flow between TX and the US, these declarations are a tacit admission that Texas does not have the resources to cope with these disasters. One of the benefits of being in a federation is the ability to pool resources. A direct contradiction to the secession argument. (Althugh the no Cowboys benefit still stands.)


  71. Rodeskawler says:

    This is, on the surface and at a glance, irony.

    The reality is that Perry is another oblivious, moronic, Bush-like, clueless goofball and was either lying through his behind, or took a talking point that was fed to him to heart, knowing no better.

    Either way, let’s hope we don’t have a president that use to be governor of Texas any time in the near millineum.


  72. MapleStreet says:

    RE: Obama Birth Certificate: My prediction for the next round of argument.

    Y’all seem to be missing an inevitable problem. Should even the “original” birth certificate be released and certified, what makes you think that Birth Certificates can’t be forged ? You think the CIA couldn’t arrange that ?


  73. Marnie says:

    There is no way Texas is going to succeed, Perry is just doing his usually Court Fool act for his Bushie backers.

    Granted this is all Rich Harry bull shit. But the US military would pull out of the state and take all its movable possessions with it, as well as cancelling military weapons and support contracts.

    The loss of revenue just from the closure of military bases in Texas would probably be enough to bankrupt the state’s budget, at least the part not already destroyed by Bushie economics.

    The loss of civilian jobs directly with the military, the loss of revenue and jobs from business that support bases and their government employee. Lost property tax from empty housing, and closure of local businesses, lost sales tax. In fact entire towns would cease to exist, since, for some, their income relies almost 100% on money flowing from a neighboring military base

    All of which proves that the Texas Bushie party is lead by some of the shallowest thinkers in the history of Texas.

    Sam Houston is screaming from his grave.


  74. longhorn007 says:

    Texas is the poster child for conservative-libertarian policies.

    Texas has long been run by libertarian-conservative policies. (Even when Texas was Democratic, it was mostly conservative Dixiecrats.)

    The result? Texas has the worst schools, the worst health care, the worst social services, the worst roads, the worst zoning laws, the worst justice department, the worst schools, the worst pollution, and–as you can see–the worst Governor.

    If they seceded, they would be dead within weeks.

    Okay, now this is bullshit.

    Texas is a really nice state. Maybe parts of it suck, but same can be said of any huge state like Texas or Cali. I think Austin, where I live, is one of the best places in the nation to live and we have great roads, little pollution, great schools, a great university. The cost of living is low all over the state, which makes it easier to see a doctor since we have more money. Hell, healthcare is a major disaster in all areas of the country. Anyway, what you said was incorrect.

    You’re confusing Texas with the GOP a$$holes in government (state and federal) like Rick Perry, who nobody likes. He did do a pretty good job organizing the evacuation, etc., when the hurricanes hit Galveston.


  75. longhorn007 says:

    Oh yeah, like I said, Rick Perry and GOP can secede from the US.

    With that in mind, GOP members all over the country can secede. I’ll even give them a cash reward if they do.



  76. ElBruce says:

    Sven Ortmann Says:

    The only meaningful + available variable is whether or not Texas pays net more to the Federals than it receives.

    Texas doesn’t pay more into federal taxes than California (#2 in disaster aid) or New York (#5).

    .

    longhorn007 Says:

    You’re confusing Texas with the GOP a$$holes in government (state and federal) like Rick Perry, who nobody likes.

    STOP. ELECTING. A$$HOLES.

    .

    longhorn007 Says:

    With that in mind, GOP members all over the country can secede. I’ll even give them a cash reward if they do.

    If they try to take one of the 50 states, I’ll support civil war against it.

    However, they could round up their teabaggers, get what few billionaires they have left, throw some $K100/plate luncheons, buy a tract of land somewhere in South America or wherever (I hear Jim Jones’ old compound is still vacant) and start up their “free enterprise, strong military, no government” paradise there. Since they’re all “John Galt” pull-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps independent achievers, they won’t need any infrastructure, social safety nets, or even a developed economic environment to do just peachy.


  77. kwsventures says:

    Please, Texas isn’t going anywhere. Lots of loose talk. But, in the end, nothing will happen. This one is a big YAWN.



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