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Rep. Broun Baselessly Speculates That The Child Who Died From Swine Flu In The U.S. Was An ‘Illegal Alien’

Yesterday, Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) was on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal and talked about the outbreak of the H1N1 virus. When discussing the first death in the United States from the disease, Broun used the tragedy to rail against “illegal aliens”:

Q: What do you think happens next here? Or should happen?

BROUN: Of course, it’s sad to see a 23-month-old child die from this disease. We don’t have any specifics. I tried to find out this morning specifics about this child that has died — whether it was someone who is from Mexico, possibly an illegal alien who has been brought into this country.

One big problem we have in this country is an open border. The border is like a sieve, and so these illegal aliens are coming across, and I think a lot of the health care facilities throughout Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California are going to be overwhelmed by cases coming out of Mexico — Mexican citizens — putting a further strain on those facilities. So, I don’t know if this child was a Mexican, or if it was an American child — what the situation is — but it was sad that this child died.

Watch it:

In fact, the child was a Mexican citizen whose family was visiting relatives in the United States. “The family had traveled to South Texas. The child became ill and they transported the child to Houston for medical care,” said a Houston health department official. This case had absolutely nothing to do with undocumented immigration. Most of the U.S. cases are arising in people who legally traveled to Mexico for various reasons.

Media Matters and CAP’s Eric Alterman have also documented right-wing media figures blaming Mexican immigrants for the spread of the virus. On April 24, hate radio host Michael Savage said, “Illegal aliens are the carriers of the new strain of human-swine avian flu from Mexico,” and on April 27, Neal Boortz asked, “[W]hat better way to sneak a virus into this country than give it to Mexicans?”

Transcript:

Q: What do you think happens next here? Or should happen?

BROUN: Of course, it’s sad to see a 23-month-old child die from this disease. We don’t have any specifics. I tried to find out this morning specifics about this child that has died — whether it was someone who is from Mexico, possibly an illegal alien who has been brought into this country.

One big problem we have in this country is an open border. The border is like a sieve, and so these illegal aliens are coming across, and I think a lot of the health care facilities throughout Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California are going to be overwhelmed by cases coming out of Mexico — Mexican citizens — putting a further strain on those facilities. So, I don’t know if this child was a Mexican, or if it was an American child — what the situation is — but it was sad that this child died.

Q: Looking over more Associated Press stories, I do not see right now where the child was from. But how should the government respond? What should they do next?

BROUN: I think we need to have very active screening of people that are coming to this country across the Mexican border. Right now what the border people are doing is — they’re just asking people if they’re sick. I think it’s just totally inane to do that.

We need to investigate, see if people have fevers and — we can do some non-invasive screening of individuals coming into this country. But again, the huge problem that we have is the open-border policy that the Bush administration, and now even worse with the Obama administration — of allowing illegal aliens across the border. We just cannot control the border, and we must secure the border.

Q: Why not just close the border?

BROUN: Well, I don’t think closing the border is going to help. It’s going to cause a tremendous economic interruption in America if we do that.



63 Responses to “Rep. Broun Baselessly Speculates That The Child Who Died From Swine Flu In The U.S. Was An ‘Illegal Alien’”

  1. Badmoodman says:

    In fact, the child was a Mexican citizen whose family was visiting relatives in the United States. “The family had traveled to South Texas.

    – - Well in that case I guess we have no choice but to boot Texas out of the Unites States.


  2. Badmoodman says:

    - – Umm, United.


  3. raynman says:

    I wonder if you now have to give up any semblance of humanity and/or a conscience to be in the Republican Party?


  4. ElBruce says:

    raynman Says:

    I wonder if you now have to give up any semblance of humanity and/or a conscience to be in the Republican Party?

    Yes. The pro-dead-Mexican baby, pro-rape, pro-murder, pro-torture, pro-pandemic, pro-natural-disaster Republican Party.


  5. Buckie Boy says:

    It’s not like Republicans are bigots and fear mongers or anything like that…is it?

    Fcuk the Republicans


  6. Pennsylvanianne says:

    It looks as if Rep. Broun is the latest to join the “Yacking on without any facts to make political points” wing of the GOP, right behind Rep. Bachmann.


  7. hanshiro the antlion says:

    These idiots would cite indigestion from a Mexican restaurant as grounds to close the borders.

    Considering H1N1 is no more dangerous than the common strain of influenza, the republicans are, once again, tapping into the hysterics keg and gittin’ their buzz on…

    ..along with our excitable, idiotic media.


  8. dixie blood says:

    “Yesterday, Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) was on C-SPAN’s Washington Journal [...]”

    Why does C-SPAN constantly let these EXTREME phucks from the reich only on the air?

    C-SPAN has become Fox II. WTF?


  9. MapleStreet says:

    Wouldn’t this be an example of the quality of the research done by him and his staff ?


  10. MapleStreet says:

    As I live in a big cattle and pork production area, there is a strong move here to stop calling it Swine Flu (as the name improperly casts negative aspersions against pork which is perfectly safe to eat).

    One of the suggestions is to call it H1N1 flu (yeah, right, like that is gonna happen).

    The other is that it should be called Mexican Flu.

    I wonder what could possibly go wrong by calling it Mexican Flu ????????


  11. hormiga brava chavez says:

    I think more emphasis needs to be placed on the company (Smithfield) that is part owner of a pig farm operation in Mexico. Not enough light is being shed on the company that polluted the water supply in Mexico.

    Granjas Carroll de Mexico, 50 per cent owned by Virginia-based Smithfield Foods, Inc., has eight farms in the area.

    Smithfield spokeswoman Keira Ullrich said the company has found no clinical signs or symptoms of the presence of swine influenza in its swine herd or its employees working at its joint ventures anywhere in Mexico.
    Residents say they have been bothered for years by the fetid smell of one the farms which lies upwind of the community and suspect their water and air has been contaminated by waste.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1174270/I-feel-great-says-year-old-Mexican-boy-living-near-ground-zero-pig-farm-hold-key-swine-flu-outbreak.html


  12. hanshiro the antlion says:

    8. dixie blood Says: C-SPAN has become Fox II. WTF?

    That was C-SPAN? And here I thought Comcast had started “The Bozo Channel.” All clowns, all the time.

    As opposed to FOX: “The EinSci-Fi-Dry Channel…”


  13. pete says:

    I’m beginning to think that these sick freaks aren’t going to shut up until we have a real-live shooting war here at home.


  14. robbez_92107 says:

    There’s nothing easier than blaming poor, brown folk for just about any problem……if you’re a Rethuglican.

    LOOK – ACORN caused the flu! Nope, it was “them Mexicans!”


  15. Ape-Man says:

    The GOP is a borg machine. Whe it breaks it stops working altogether. Comforting thought isn’t it. Some goon like limba sends the wrong command to the drones and they stand waving their arms and repeating jibberish until they can be switched off. That’s no way to run a party and it’s never going to bwe a way to run a country again.

    Torture is Extortion


  16. Ape-Man says:

    BROUN is a gonner. thanks TP!



  17. hormiga brava chavez says:

    They need to stop blaming this on the citizens of Mexico or illegal aliens when Smithfield, an American company, is the root cause for the illness and polution. Smithfield has been cited for poluting the Pagan River in Virginia! For dumping pig wastes etc. Fracking GOPers are such evil, lying sadists!

    http://www.bayjournal.com/article.cfm?article=2082


  18. hanshiro the antlion says:

    18.hormiga brava chavez Says: They need to stop blaming this on the citizens of Mexico or illegal aliens when Smithfield, an American company, is the root cause for the illness and polution.

    No, rather it’s the idiots who spread unfounded rumors that cause all the confusion and panic. There’s no evidence where the strain originated so stop using a flu outbreak to pedal environmental issues that aren’t related.

    Your article is from 1997, says nothing about the current swine flu, and while I’m no fan of industrial pig farms, I’m less a fan of hysterical propaganda.

    Idiot.


  19. Above the Clouds says:

    All you need to know about today’s Republican Party is that Broun and Bachmann sit on the same side as the aisle that was once haunted by Tom DeLay and Newt Gingrich. More proof that the GOP have nothing for America.


  20. StratRat says:

    I saw a newspaper headline today in San Diego. it shouted out: Pandemic Imminent!!!

    How is that for a little fear mongering? The MSM learned that we need fear and the threat of attack to continue to purchase their products. I call BS on the whole thing. To me it is a lot about ‘crying wolf’ too often.


  21. hanshiro the antlion says:

    That’s ‘peddle.’

    The other point is that it gives environmentalists a black eye and detracts from their credibility by perpetuating rumors or assumed guilt.


  22. Theres'Ant says:

    And the likes of Savage and Boortz are carriers for Teh Stoopid, which is much, much worse.


  23. hormiga brava chavez says:

    hanshiro:

    I do believe there is a connection whether it be in 1997 or 2009. Smithfield has been cited in Virginia before. I was just trying to make a point that there may be a connection. No need to be an a$$hole by calling me an idiot!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1174270/I-feel-great-says-year-old-Mexican-boy-living-near-ground-zero-pig-farm-hold-key-swine-flu-outbreak.html


  24. linkwray says:

    The people who should be looked at are those sitting on the board of Donald Rumsfeld’s corp. It hoolds the patent on Tamiflu and are making out like bandits just like in 2005 with the Avian flu. By the way has anyone heard the nasty rumor about Baxter International experimenting with this same strain in Europe years ago? It got loose and killed the lab workers and that part is true. Is this another urban Legend albeit from Europe?


  25. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Oh and by the way hanshiro, the link I pasted above was as of TODAY April 30, 2009.


  26. ElBruce says:

    I think the right wing is just PO’d that there’s a disease named after them.


  27. mary lacewing says:

    ElBruce Says:

    I think the right wing is just PO’d that there’s a disease named after them.

    lol


  28. Bea says:

    This is just ridiculous…I guess I shouldn’t be as angry because by now I should be used to their rhetoric.

    At the same time, the fact that they continue to spread their hatred and racism makes me oppose anyone who’s apathetic.

    It’s nothing new that a right-winger is blaming Mexicans, or immigrants, but nobody should be just used to it.

    Keep up the good work TP.


  29. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Rep. Braun is way off base. He needs to lay blame on companies that move their operations to Mexico because they’re trying to bypass sanitation laws in America.


  30. mary lacewing says:

    linkwray Says:

    The people who should be looked at are those sitting on the board of Donald Rumsfeld’s corp. It hoolds the patent on Tamiflu and are making out like bandits just like in 2005 with the Avian flu.

    A teenaged girl in NYC reported that the flu made her so nauseous that she just threw up the tamiflu pill they gave her. She started getting better a couple of days later (without taking any more tamiflu).


  31. pete says:

    Plus, of course, it never occurs to the moronic Rheichwhiners that modern medical science enabled us to identify the problem and “over react” in the first place. They’ll just keep on with their “we don’t need no atheists teachin’ our kids about evilution“.


  32. Varecia says:

    A friend sent me this which is relevant to swine flu and border states:

    http://newspapertree.com/opinion/3738-swine-flu-border-security-and-public-priorities


  33. hanshiro the antlion says:

    24. hormiga brava chavez Says: I do believe there is a connection whether it be in 1997 or 2009. Smithfield has been cited in Virginia before. I was just trying to make a point that there may be a connection. No need to be an a$$hole by calling me an idiot!

    Okay, I fully believe you’re an idiot. My belief carries all the evidentiary weight that yours does. More, in fact since there is more causation for my conclusion than yours.

    26. hormiga brava chavez Says: Oh and by the way hanshiro, the link I pasted above was as of TODAY April 30, 2009.

    Your Bay Journal article from #18 says clearly September 1997.

    Idiot.


  34. fergus says:

    The baby who died was an illegal alien? Oh, well, then, it’s no big deal, is it, Broun? You sick shit. These reichwing hemmorhoids are getting more and more disgusting by the day. These spewings need to be broadcast loudly over every media outlet, until enough citizens get outraged enough to ride them out of town on a rail. Tar and feathers would look real good on them. Make ‘em all resemble the flock of chickenshits that they are.


  35. herecomestheangst says:

    You can tell a Georgia Republicans IQ by measuring how deep a peach cobbler pan is and dividing it by the stars and bars.


  36. hanshiro the antlion says:

    While there is an internet trail and the incidences surrounding La Gloria, the evidence is still inconclusive. Just because you want to believe it doesn’t make it true.

    Don’t look foolish by spreading stories that haven’t been nailed down yet.

    And they haven’t been. Q.E.D.


  37. EmTee says:

    If it had been a fetus that died from swine flu, the Reps would have been just devastated. Since it was an actual born child, and a Mexican to boot, no big deal.


  38. Game of Life says:

    repugs are proof that Briton did get rid of their undesirables.


  39. hormiga brava chavez says:

    hanshiro, your entitled to your opinion. I don’t care if you don’t agree. My point is that it’s interesting that the same company fined millions for dumping pig waste in the Pagan River in VA during 1997 is suspected of causing the infection of swine flu in Mexico in 2009. I believe the residents of La Gloria. Money buys silence.


  40. hanshiro the antlion says:

    24.hormiga brava chavez Says: I do believe there is a connection whether it be in 1997 or 2009.

    That’s not, in fact what you said, you stated it as a fact:

    18. hormiga brava chavez Says: They need to stop blaming this on the citizens of Mexico or illegal aliens when Smithfield, an American company, is the root cause for the illness and polution.

    That’s what makes you an idiot. You’re stating something as fact that isn’t supported by any documentation you’ve presented. While it may turn out to be true eventually, claiming it as proven is irresponsible.


  41. Game of Life says:

    Thank God that stupidity isn’t contagious.


  42. krazeeinjun says:

    You really just have to sit back and marvel at the abject cruelty and bigotry that permeates the mentality of the right-wingers. From them we get nothing approaching constructive input to the conversation of how to deal with this public health issue in a sane, rational and fair manner. Instead, their vile rantings give the overt impression that if they had their way they’d drop a few nukes on Mexico’s major cities, incinerating all and voila! – two problems solved — no more virus, no more wetbacks. There is something terribly, nauseatingly wrong with these people.

    Just saying . . .


  43. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Well hanshiro, I’m not an idiot. Excuse me everyone for not being more specific when making my point – I SUSPECT THAT SMITHFIELD’S PIG FARM HAS CAUSED PEOPLE TO BECOME SICK WITH SWINE FLU. I SUSPECT THIS BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSTED AND FINED FOR DUMPING PIG WASTE IN 1997.

    How’s that?


  44. Game of Life says:

    If I were a thinking teabagging repug I would find a correlation between teabaggers teabagging and swine flu.

    It makes just as much sense.

    teabaggers, do you ever think things out? Ever?

    Is being stupid that pleasurable/comfortable?

    Stupid is like meth and sex to you teabaggers.


  45. hanshiro the antlion says:

    45. hormiga brava chavez Says: How’s that?

    Better, and more accurate. Best check that stuck capslock though; it doesn’t give any added weight to your claim…


  46. geezersgal says:

    What I’m getting from Broun’s last statement is an admission that while Repubs scream and rile up the base over immigration, they don’t really want to do anything about it for economic reasons. That should come as quite a suprise to their base.


  47. Ape-Man says:

    The ignorant own and operate the republican party.


  48. Jacks says:

    Bring on comprehensive immigration efforts! The GOP will hang themselves for sure!


  49. trevinla says:

    “This Child” is obviously an Alien/Human hybrid!


  50. hanshiro the antlion says:

    As a followup, hormiga brava chavez, here’s some information I ran across early on (via boingboing.net), including the Grist theory of the pig-farm flu origin:

    Some Thoughts on Factory Farming

    So I know that Grist, and a couple of other places, are promoting the theory that the genesis of H1N1 swine flu can be tied directly to factory farming practices. I’m no fan of factory farming, and it definitely has some associated public health dangers, but I’m not yet convinced that this one of them.

    First, according to the experts I’ve spoken to, nobody currently knows specifically where H1N1 swine flu comes from. In fact, the information we’re getting out of Mexico seems to have a lot of holes in it, to the point that (as of my writing this) nobody even knows how many supposed swine flu cases/deaths are actually caused by swine flu or what percentage of people infected with swine flu are dying in that country. As Pekosz told me, there’s no evidence one way or the other.
    Second, while past pandemic viruses have had connections to farming, they haven’t necessarily been connections to factory farming; but rather small-scale (and, particularly, subsistence level) farming, where animals of several species share close quarters. This is important for the H1N1 swine flu. Pigs seem to provide a particularly good environment for flu viruses to get their gene-reassorting watusi on. But to get that pig/avian/human mix, the most likely candidate would be a pig who’d had close contact with both people and poultry. As I understand it, it’s less likely that a human who works with pigs and chickens separately could pass the avian virus to a pig. And, factory farms, which tend to be single-species outfits, aren’t really great places for pigs and chickens to interact.

    Now, I can see some ways around that. Say, if the pigs were sleeping or wallowing in muck that was contaminated with chicken feces or something. I could also be interpreting the facts incorrectly here. But from what I’ve read, and from the researchers I’ve spoken with, it seems more likely that H1N1 would have been created in the communal barn of a small farm, than in a giant hog-only factory farm shed.

    How Nature Makes a Chimeric Virus

    Everywhere, you’re reading that H1N1 swine flu contains genes from human, avian and swine flu viruses and, for most people, the imagination immediately jumps to genetic engineering. But, let me assure you, nature can do this perfectly well on its own. No human tampering required.

    It works like this. Flu viruses have eight genes, each of which is on a separate piece of RNA and, each of which replicates independently of the others. Multiple types of flu virus can infect the same cell. If a cell is infected with two or three different viruses, genes from the “parent” generation can easily get shuffled around and randomly repackaged into chimeric “offspring”. For a visual, think about taking two shakers of dice, tossing the dice out on the table, swirling them around and splitting them back up again into the shakers. Chances are, some of the dice that were originally in shaker 1 are now in shaker 2, and vice versa. And that’s basically a simplified version of what’s going on with flu virus genes when they create something like H1N1.


  51. livelongandprosper says:

    There’s no evidence where the strain originated so stop using a flu outbreak to pedal environmental issues that aren’t related.

    I read somewhere that they think they found the original carrier. I’ll try find where I read that.



  52. hanshiro the antlion says:

    Then there’s this:

    Expert Says Farm Isn’t Flu Origin

    Mexico’s top government epidemiologist said Wednesday that it is “highly improbable” that a farm in the Mexican state of Veracruz operated by Smithfield Foods Inc. is responsible for the nation’s swine-flu outbreak.

    Miguel Ángel Lezana, the government’s chief epidemiologist, said in an interview that pigs at the farm are from North America, while the genetic material in the virus is from Europe and Asia.

    Government health workers plan to re-test the pigs for any sign of swine flu, he said.

    Veracruz is home to the illness’s earliest known victim so far, though Mr. Lezana on Wednesday said a Bangladeshi street vendor in Mexico City was among the first victims. Locals have been pointing fingers at the pork-processing giant in the nearby village of Perote, run by Smithfield and the Mexican company Agroindustrias Unidas de Mexico S.A, as the source of the flu.

    There’s a host of information out there and, unfortunately, not always concurring with factual data. This needs to be collated and presented from a strictly scientific viewpoint.


  53. krazeeinjun says:

    The comment I made in an earlier post re: Rep. Broun applies here as well:

    You really just have to sit back and marvel at the abject cruelty and bigotry that permeates the mentality of the right-wingers. From them we get nothing approaching constructive input to the conversation of how to deal with this public health issue in a sane, rational and fair manner. Instead, their vile rantings give the overt impression that if they had their way they’d drop a few nukes on Mexico’s major cities, incinerating all and voila! – two problems solved — no more virus, no more wetbacks. There is something terribly, nauseatingly wrong with these people.

    Just saying . . .


  54. ElBruce says:

    hormiga brava chavez Says:

    I SUSPECT THAT SMITHFIELD’S PIG FARM HAS CAUSED PEOPLE TO BECOME SICK WITH SWINE FLU. I SUSPECT THIS BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSTED AND FINED FOR DUMPING PIG WASTE IN 1997.

    Lots of companies have been fined for that. I recall an anecdote about a giant pig-shit fountain in Nebraska that gives off fountain plumes high into the air because of gases fermenting underneath.

    This news item would be a great opportunity to shine a light at the multiple horrific practices involved in unsustainable, centralized factory farming. It has poor controls, is environmentally devastating, and is a major factor in the demise of the traditional family farm in the United States. However, to do that we’d have to fudge some facts, make others up, and try to draw a connection that just doesn’t exist. And when we start playing that way, we end up becoming Republicans. Sure, you can win for a while like that eventually then you end up in the position they’re in now, discredited and crazy.

    So until we hear from the CDC about the origin (and does it really matter?) we’ll take a pass.





  55. kwsventures says:

    I think the pig lobby screamed so much they changed the name of that overblown swine flu. Give it a few days, the swine flu nonsense will blow over. The media will be on to a new scare tactic, hoping you that new scare tactic to drive up ratings, revenues and profits. Nothing really new here. Yawn.


  56. laworder says:

    kellykinsel Says:

    “THIS IS WHERE THE IDIOTS LIBERALS ARE TOLD HOW TO THINK.”

    “BUT WHAT CAN I EXPECT, ALL LIBERALS ARE TOO STUPID TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES”

    Kellykinsel, I don’t think you should sit in the glass house that cheney and bush jr. built and throw rocks and insults at the people outside. It wasn’t the “idiot liberals” who invaded the wrong country after 9-11. It was your president bush jr. and his corporate sidekick DICK cheney.

    As liberals, we do think for ourselves and opposed the war in Iraq even before the invasion. It was your heros: Karl Rove & Rush Limbaugh publicly stating that we were “traitors.” If your party had one intellectual rather than a bunch of sheep, maybe the worst strategic blunder in U.S. history and the deaths and injuries to thousands upon thousands upon thousands of American soldiers and innocent Iraqis could have been prevented.

    You’re a just another Chickenhawk with no brain. There isn’t a dime bit of difference between and bush jr. If you thought he was wonderful, send your savings (or what’s left of it) to his library in Texas.


  57. dantheshoeman says:

    Well, kellykinsel, you sure told me! Read this very carefully.Post 6: For the record, even though I am a liberal, I am completely able to think for myself. Not everything that Obama does do I believe in. I don’t agree with the bank bailouts and I think they should stop. However, I don’t delude myself into thinking that Obama will stop them, even though they were started during the BUSH administration. I do, however, believe a bailout in the auto industry is necessary. Post 8: I personally am against abortion. Many lierals are. But I also think we need to take care of them when their born. I can remember a few years back when a 15 year old girl had the first baby of the new year, in my home city, the conservatives on the local stations were attacking this girl. The same ones condemned abortion. Also, don’t you find it just a bit odd that while we and many others are suffering a health crisis, we have to pussyfoot around with a Health and Human Services Secratary because she is pro-choice? Post 10: Everything you speak of here was inherited from George W Bush. But you and your friends keep going to the right and you will lose every election including 2012. Post 16: The Joe Biden clip was on every news network including the demon NBC. You would know that if your television wasn’t broke and only received the Fox News Channel. In conclusion kellykinsel I’m just curious about one of your Fearless Leaders from Fox, Is Hannity EVER going to be waterboarded?


  58. dantheshoeman says:

    pssstt I meant liberals



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