Why all the name calling on this site? Someone disagrees with the general opinion here and they are made out as a moron or a Con. I work in the field and believe me the clear answer is in the middle, no sense in breaking it down here no one wants to listen anyway. “Republicans hate facts”, please share with me the breakdown of how California the launching ground of Democratic ideas is funding red states? Save your breath people the Christian right(puked a bit just typing it) disgusted me more that any liberal could do on his or her best day. No I did not vote for Bush in any of the elections so please don’t name call me I am just a 51 year old man sick of both piles of dung in Washington.

Well said, Harlyrydyr. Plenty of blame to go around on both sides, plenty of “intolerance” on both sides, and plenty of spouting the “party line” on both sides. Truly productive debate contains none of it. Folks, if we are going to “Think Progress”, we need to engage in productive dialogue with those with whom we disagree, not simply label them neanderthals or whatever else we come up with. While there are some classy comments on this and other sights, there is a lot more unproductive ranting. Time to really get to work.

The people elected them to help and not to hinder!

What about all the people who voted (and would continue to vote) against nationalized health care. What about those who don’t want to pay for that sort of thing? How do we deal with those people – do we just force them to go along? Knowing that the electorate is fairly evenly divided and swings in any given election, can we force a permanent change on millions who are strongly opposed? I mention this because I think we may need to refine the solution so that more people can accept it, and not simply say that a politician is evil because he is not on board right now. This is a VERY expensive proposition, so it needs to be done right. Forcing a quick “solution” on those otherwise unconvinced will only galvanize their resistance.

Lamar Alexander should monitor his constituent HCA in Nashville, Tennessee.

2009-The Wall Street Journal reported that Richard Scott, “the former chief executive of HCA Inc,” had formed the non-profit organization Conservatives for Patients’ Rights as part of a “lobbying campaign to derail or modify” …

NEW COMMERCIAL! Rick Scott is at it again-

–Featuring Rick Scott & doctor in England. Guess who is in England? HCA International- HCA International

2008- Welcome to London’s leading private hospitals

Why we are London’s No. 1 private hospital group

More than 3,000 top London and UK specialists in private practice

In the USA, the story below is about the LARGEST HEALTH CARE Company in our country and the mantra of ‘private’ market driven healthcare. No shame for them.

http://WWW.USDOJ.GOV
HCA Inc. (formerly known as Columbia/HCA and HCA – The Healthcare Company)

LARGEST HEALTH CARE FRAUD CASE IN U.S. HISTORY SETTLED

Note: Hospital Corporation of America (HCA) was acquired by Columbia in 1994.

Columbia/HCA is a partnership of financier Richard Rainwater of Ft. Worth and lawyer Richard Scott. Scott was recently terminated by Darla Moore, the wife of Richard Rainwater and according to Fortune Magazine, the “Toughest Babe in the Business”.

1997 – Columbia/HCA Healthcare Corp. – the nation’s largest for-profit health care company

1997 Columbia just decided to sell its home health-care business.

In 1997, as part of Richard Scott’s severance package from Columbia he was paid $5.13 million and given a five year consulting contract at $950,000 per year

1997 + 5 = 2002

Lamar Alexander should concern himself with the fraud in the Bankruptcy Court in Memphis Tennessee.

In 1997, Fortune magazine ran a cover story on successful business executive Darla Moore, titled “The Toughest Babe in Business.”….She created the corporate bankruptcy finance tool, DIP, debtor in possession while at a Wall Street bank.

In 1999, the largest bankruptcy filing in Tennessee occurred with the help of DIP Finance.

The fraud in this court contributed to the largest private financial fraud case in our country’s history which began to unfold November 2002 in Columbus Ohio.

In 2002 FBI raided the offices of National Century Financial Enterprises in Dublin, Ohio. (Healthcare finance)

“This case is one of the largest corporate fraud investigations involving a privately held company headquartered in small town America,” said Assistant Director Kenneth W. Kaiser of the FBI Criminal Investigative Division.

Why the need for ‘healthcare financial service’ i.e. (NCFE) National Century Financial Enterprises?

Home health – which was struggling under the Balanced Budget Act of 1997; about 1,400 agencies closed nationwide in 1998.

Guess where Columbia Homecare was? NCFE- the largest ‘private’ financial fraud case in our country’s history.

But first, to hide it deep, in 1999 all of Columbia Homecare was placed into that bankruptcy court in Memphis in 1999 from a sale that transpired in secret six months earlier.(No one could explain the sale or the purchase)

The following was stated and confirmed in a Professional Board of Ethics Report filed against one of the lawyers in the court.

“The court room was filled with lawyers crying fraud- the judge scolded the court and forbad the ‘F’ word in her courtroom.”

Then- low and behold- guess where those companies in the Tennessee bankruptcy were found-

Yes- “…largest corporate fraud investigations involving a privately held company headquartered in small town America,” National Century Financial Enterprises.

October 2008- Former National Century Financial Enterprises CEO Convicted of Conspiracy, Fraud and Money Laundering

November 2008 – Only executive James Happ still await trial. Guess who James K Happ is?

Prior to arriving at NCFE- National Century Financial Enterprises- he was the ex-CFO of Columbia Homecare Group.

December 18, 2008 – The ONE AND ONLY acquittal; James K Hap, the ex-CFO of Columbia Homecare Group.

By Jodi Andes THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

Prosecutors’ case fell short; juror says National Century fraud case produces 1st acquittal

The “not guilty” verdicts that came in federal court yesterday were not so much a vindication of the last National Century Financial Enterprises executive to stand trial, a juror said.

Instead, they were more a belief that ‘‘federal prosecutors had not done their job ‘

Mr. Alexander- you might pay attention to the fraud that is rampant in your state.

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Typical LEFTIST namecalling? When did Rush tell you to think THAT? YOURS is the party of Rush, Annie Gangleskank, Beck, O’Reilly and you want to talk about typical lefty namecalling what a punk you are. Look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary. You will find a perfect description of YOU there

While you have your dictionary out, look up “Bigot”. Then look up “hypocrite”.

If I was asked to contribute 5% more from my check and that would provide EVERY American quality heath care, I’d say, “If I gave 7% what would that get us?” You see, I’m willing to do what it takes to help others aside from money.

This is why the corporation of health care should be snatched out of the greedy hands of those who put profits before customer service.

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So is your PERSONAL SECURITY, SANITATION and TRANSPORTATION. Perhaps we should DO AWAY with the POLICE the GARBAGE the SEWAGE the WATER and the ROADS since those aren’t your BIRTH RIGHT either…

Most of those are taken care of by local and State governments. Must you type in all capitals and unnecessary punctuation? Very very obnoxious.
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That is BUNK and its stupid. Roads are usually built with Federal money as are sewage projects they are MAINTAINED with local funds. Police get all KINDS of federal subsidies including specialized training and information from the Feds.

Dont be a MORON and such a selfish punk. Try for once in your life to care about someone other than yourself. Everyone should make sure that ignorant selfish self centered morons like YOU are never taken seriously again.

In reading YOUR post I see that not only are you a moron but also an Ebenezer Scrooge worshipper. I HAVE healthcare. GOOD healthcare. What I want is to assure my NEIGHBOR has healthcare. 18,000 people a year DIE in the US from lack of access to healthcare. Ebenezer Scrooge worshippers think that is all well and good as long as people are getting rich off of healthcare if that means people have to die they die for what YOU consider a good cause. MONEY.

IF what you say is true why do we pay more per capita AND more as a percentage of GDP than any other country in the world and show up 37th on the comparative healthcare list. The healthcare delivery systems are interested in maximizing profits just like all businesses are and the best way for a healthcare delivery system to maximize profits is to become a healthcare denial system. There is a place of the profit motive and delivering healthcare is NOT that place.

Typical LEFTIST namecalling? When did Rush tell you to think THAT? YOURS is the party of Rush, Annie Gangleskank, Beck, O’Reilly and you want to talk about typical lefty namecalling what a punk you are. Look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary. You will find a perfect description of YOU there

Great libraries could be filled EXCLUSIVELY with things you didnt know and even larger ones with things you DID know that just arent true. What a moron you are. YOU from the party of dittobots talking about Democrats parroting. It is hilarious.

What YOU dont understand is…well that list is endless. We already pay MORE per capita than any nation in the WORLD for healthcare and are only 37th of the list of quality healthcare. I DO pay for my healthcare first it is taken out of my check and second our contracts were negotiated for lower wage increases to PAY for the healthcare. Your predictions about what WILL happen are worthelss. Where did you get them? A magic 8ball? Your Ouiji board? Perhaps you threw the I Ching. You cant see the future. You dont know what you are talking about so you dropped by to let us all know what Rush TOLD you to think. Ya got nothin.

Oh, that company does not provide health insurance?

It’s still insurance, maybe there is strength in numbers, an affinity effect. The insurance industry members protect each other even when it’s not their line of business.

That said, why does anyone really need health insurance? Should the occasional health problem really be covered, or should one insure only for really big needs, like injury or infection?

Regarding the Federal Government providing health insurance, they could do so without alarming this “Senator who gets his health coverage from the taxpayer forever and ever” by limiting enrollment to people who have been denied regular health insurance coverage five or more years ago, and limit coverage to injury and infections. Not disease, not cancer, just infections. That’s the only way to keep premiums low.

So is your PERSONAL SECURITY, SANITATION and TRANSPORTATION. Perhaps we should DO AWAY with the POLICE the GARBAGE the SEWAGE the WATER and the ROADS since those aren’t your BIRTH RIGHT either…

Most of those are taken care of by local and State governments. Must you type in all capitals and unnecessary punctuation? Very very obnoxious.

May 3rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm

With all due respect, I disagree. You are fortunate in that you are able to afford the coast of your own health care plan. I’m sure it isn’t cheap. You know, someone much wealthier than you, someone who already has billions of dollars, is probably pocketing some of the cost of that health care you pay for. Someone who probably has nothing to do with the actual health care your plan pays for, just someone who is making money every time you have to have medical treatment.

I do not believe that health care should be a for-profit industry. I’m not saying that everyone should have “free health care”, but that the cost of that care to the patient not exceed its actual costs – in other words, that no one makes a buck off someone else’s illness or injury.

I realize that jobs would be lost in the insurance industry, but I do believe that a single-payer system (the government) would lower costs, even with a for-profit health care system. I believe it imperative that the law be changed to allow the government to negotiate with drug manufacturers for lower prices. Former Rep Billy Tauzin wrote it into the law that they government specifically could not do that, right before he “retired” and became head of the Pharmaceutical Manufacturers Lobby (PharMa). Who’s needs was the government providing for there, yours and mine or Big PharMa’s?