Rove Hypocritically Argues Right Should Oppose Potential Obama Court Pick Just Because She’s Liberal
Rove Hypocritically Argues Right Should Oppose Potential Obama Court Pick Just Because She’s Liberal
This morning on Fox News, former Bush political adviser Karl Rove criticized Judge Sonia Sotomayor, a potential nominee for the upcoming Supreme Court vacancy. “She could be even more liberal than Souter was,” Rove said. “She has a reputation on the Court of Appeals that she’s on for being very liberal.” He then argued that Sotomayor’s views would be cause for conservatives to oppose her, despite her qualifications for the position:
On the other hand, she’s also likely to draw opposition from conservatives because her opinions on the Circuit Court of Appeals have been very liberal and very expansive. In fact, this is going to be one the big dividing lines. President Obama…said he wanted a judge who would uphold the Constitution, but also a judge would be empathetic. These two things are in conflict.
Watch it:
Needless to say, Rove is being hypocritical. When he was shepherding Bush’s Supreme Court nominees through the process, he explicitly made the argument the President was owed deference to choose a qualified nominee and opposition party had a “responsibility to back” that pick. Here’s what Rove told the Washington Post in July 2005:
Karl Rove, President Bush’s chief political architect, said precedents from the most recent Supreme Court vacancies suggest that opposition-party senators have a responsibility to back a president’s choice if they believe a nominee is qualified, even if they disagree with the person’s views. He also maintained that a strongly held ideological stance would not amount to “extraordinary circumstances” justifying a Democratic filibuster under a recent bipartisan Senate deal. [...]
Rove made clear that Bush will consult with senators in both parties, but that he has no interest in any kind of grand bargain between the White House and Congress in which legislators would give support in exchange for advance input on the president’s choice. Some Democratic groups have suggested that Bush seek an early consensus. Rove, however, cited his own weekend reading of the Federalist Papers to argue that the framers of the Constitution envisioned no such role for Congress, leaving the president alone to make nominations.
In the interview with Fox News this morning, Rove lauded the Bush White House’s preparedness for filling the Supreme Court vacancies when they arose and suggested the Obama White House is unprepared for making a nomination. It seems Rove has quickly forgotten his “active role” in the disastrous nomination of Harriet Miers, who came under relentless assault from Bush’s conservative base.
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Dog bites man. *Again.*
We should be suprised at this …?
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 amOh, and KKKarl…?
Please DROP DEAD.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 amOh lord Rove’s mouth is running again. Is anyone the least bit shocked that he’s pulling his classic double standard maneuver? He had a gay father, but opposes gay rights. He said picking an inexperienced running mate would be cynical, but he raved about Palin. He claimed executive privledge, but now demands transparency. The list goes on and on and on…
If there’s a hell this man’s def on the list of future residents!
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 amWhen in hell is this piece of crap going to be put in jail where he belongs?….He should not be allowed to speak anywhere except on the stand or from behind bars..P.B. & J
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 amReally, what else can you expect from Rove on Faux News?
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 amYes ladybastet your right about Rove being on the list for hell,but he should go to prison first.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 amYou know, at this point, I’m not even going to bother researching to see if Rove is telling the truth. The man is simply incapable of doing that when politics is involved. I’m sure he’s lying. I’m sure he’s lying about what the “Federalist Papers” say. Hell, I’m sure he’s even lying about having been reading them lately. This man will say anything to make a point, and it makes no difference at all if what he says is true or not.
Karl, you are in Contempt of Congress. Why don’t you prove you have more courage than Hannity and testify truthfully under oath? Or will we always have to debate which of the two of you is the bigger coward?
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 amAny intelligent American should oppose any politician in the 2010 & 2012 elections because they are republican.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 amThe critics started as soon as the Souter rumor began – speculation on whow Obama would select and why that person would be wrong. They have shown that they will filibuster, object, and create chaos around any nominee; character assassination is not beneath them – even before they even know who it is!
For today Rove has selected the first one to be vilified – expect radio and TV campaigns, frothing-at-the-mouth repugs expressing indignation, and Fox news going ape-sh!t.
Rove speaks for no one – he has nothing but a dubious reputation at best. But he’s one of the few spokesmen for the rethugs — so desperate and pathetic are they – yet they cling to the big mouths of the past, the ones who brought them this enormous defeat at the poles and defection of millions from the electorate – because they don’t know how to change, nor do they want to acknowledge their errors.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 amThese are not the people to lead America – not at any time.
While I appreciate the job TP does I have to wonder how productive the approach taken is, it seems pretty easy to daily post what lunacy the opposition spouts but it’s mostly preaching to the choir.
I dont see any posting about how several Democratic Senators failed to support Senator Durbins bill to rescue homeowners from possible foreclosures.
How about holding supposed progressives feet to the fire?
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 amRove is being hypocritical!?
Say it ain’t so, Joe!
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 amrocks911 Says:
How about holding supposed progressives feet to the fire?
There are other websites dedicated to doing that. That is not TP’s mission in life.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 amAnd KKKarl is not in jail, why?
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 amHow’s that permanent majority working out, Karl?
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 amJust vote no to any (R)
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 amI dont see any posting about how several Democratic Senators failed to support Senator Durbins bill to rescue homeowners from possible foreclosures.
How about holding supposed progressives feet to the fire?
Progressives? These senators are barely democrats. Blue dogs aren’t going to suddenly change. What’s your point?
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 am6 of the 9 Supremes were Republican appointees for Gore v. Bush. Haters relentlessly excoriated the Warren Court for it’s civil rights work and as a result the Federal Judiciary is stacked with hardcore hardliner right wing cranks like Bybee the torturer.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 amRove is talking to folks who have been conditioned, like Pavlov’s dog, to cringe with disgust upon hearing the word liberal.
In keeping with the established norms of the GOP, Rove also seems to think the Constitution proscribes empathy. Huh?
Without empathy, I would think the possibility of upholding the constitution would be slim.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 am
I don’t listen to rove about anything…the end. Jonathan Turley for SCJ is the best choice I can think of.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 amBad on the GOP. Something tells me that she will not be chosen as his replacement.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 ambarfly,
I thought I made my point. Let me reiterate, only bashing the lunatic fringe offers only a limited view of what is hurting this country. I suppose if it makes everyone feel good to hate the opposition exclusively than so be it.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:25 amThe National Review’s Matthew Franck urges GOP senators not to filibuster Obama’s nominee. “Supreme Court nominations deserve an up-or-down vote,” he writes. But he also urges “Republicans to throw some sand in the gears” to slow down the confirmation process.
For the selection of a jurist who will automatically be in the minority. Can’t be happy with a majority, they want 6-3 -type control. Then the rhetoric about activist judges will hit the memory hole, and they will begin remaking the country in their warped image.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:25 amAs Wisedup said “I don’t listen to rove about anything…”
And for me also post after post after post is about the lunatic ramblings of out of power fringe lunatics we all learned to hate a long time ago, and now maybe we could move on to politics today of those in power now.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:27 amDear *Karal, the days of doublespeak are gone and you have become irrelevant.
[*Ceorle/Churl/Karal] By the 19th century, a new and pejorative meaning arose, “one inclined to uncivil or loutish behaviour”.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 am*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churl
I suppose if it makes everyone feel good to hate the opposition exclusively than so be it.
Did my bluedog-bashing post read like I hate the opposition exclusively? Sorry for the confusion.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 amIt seems to be the norm now to do the opposite of what Republicans say you should do, for any adult with an IQ over 98, and they have no one to blame but themselves.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 amThe Repubs might have a little more credibility if they waited until Obama actually announced his selection. They are reinforcing their “Party of No” image. Of course it is so much fun to have something new to be against.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 amOfficer ARREST THAT PERSON.
And for the “Federalist Papers” They are a bunch of fcuking opinions, that is it. They ARE the same reasoning that Bush et al THOUGHT used to try and subvert the constitution; because they have some OPINION derived during the Nixon era (most likely from Darth Cheney himself) that supported the notion of the Unitary Executive, so it must be true because some nutfcuk Republotraitor from the 60’s wrote some cockamamie scheem to subvert the constitution, so now we can use that as fodder for Addington and Yoo to write Torture opinions. Watch the Addington and Yoo testimony before Congress, they say it right there.
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/addington-displays-contempt-for-congress/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUHoi1gKfrM
THEY MUST BE PROSECUTED OR OTHERS WILL THINK IT OK TO FOLLOW THEIR LEAD. THE COUNTRY CANNOT SURVIVE IF WE DO NOT PROSECUTE THESE MOTHREFCUKERS.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 amand now maybe we could move on to politics today of those in power now.
Sounds good, in theory. But you equate bluedogs with progressives, and that has me scratching my head.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 amHe makes no apologies for being stupid. By all means, don’t nominate someone who represents the average America.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 amAL Gore for Supreme Court would be the fastest confirmation and most JUDICIAL seating EVER!!!!
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 amThis is very OT, but you should all have a look at this on Daily Beast:
Michele Bachmann’s newest bungle (wrongly pinning the last flu scare on a Democrat) shows disdain for both facts and logic. Eric Alterman takes on Congress’ mad bomber.
It’s all old news to most of us, but it’s nice to see her craziness talked about on a site that’s not left-leaning for a change. Hopefully her insanity will become a MSM fascination… yeah ok fat chance, but I can dream can’t I? ^_^
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 ambarfly,
No, it read like there was nothing to be done.
“These senators are barely democrats. Blue dogs aren’t going to suddenly change.”
And to that I would say neither is the out of power Carl Rove.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 amrocks911: which Senators should we be bashing? Byrd isn’t all that progressive, and he’s about the closest, in that lot.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 amYeah, after all the bi-partisanship and cooperation the Republicans have shown the Presdient, he’s going to reward them with a Conservative judge that will vote against everything he stands for… In what alternative universe do these clowns live? No way they are getting anything but a moderate Liberal appointee. They can continue to alienate themselves further by pitching more public temper tantrums, or they can try to act like adults. I’m betting on the tantrums…
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:35 amOf course the Reicht abhors Emapthy, how do you think they got to rationalizing torture. Loss of empathy.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 amBarfly,
“But you equate bluedogs with progressives, and that has me scratching my head.”
They have a (D) before their name so I would say that they are more deserving of our outrage than (R) who do exactly what we expect of them.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 amHey Rove, until you can come up with a more practical reason why she should not be a SCOTUS justice besides “because she’s a liberal”, STFU! Your party lost. Anything you say is irrelevant as much as your party of criminals.
And about outing a CIA operative….. YOU DESERVE TO GO TO PRISON JACKASS.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 amBarfly
Nevermind, I seem incapable of getting my point across.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 amunbeleivable,
“No way they are getting anything but a moderate Liberal appointee.”
I disagree, If we look at Hariet Meyers, Bush/Rove co used the bait and switch tactic to get one of their whackjobs appointed. Obama hopefully, will learn that at this point, seeking the middle Is NOT the tactic to take. Seek the left as far as possible. Justice Russ Feingold would really put the Right over the top, if he gets through the Senate, then so be it, but if not, then someone a little more to the middle Sotomayor or Al Gore
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:40 ambarfly,
No, it read like there was nothing to be done.
Fine. What do you propose? If we’re going to start a political action committee, we’d better hurry, since the election is right around the corner. How about starting a blog devoted to defeating these senators in the next election? Only problem I’d see, is that there probably already is, and they’re also looking for support. You could find one, and post it’s link on this very thread. Or you could b itch about the rest of us. I hope to see your link soon.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:40 amGod I hate KKKarl Rove!
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 amAnd Dubya just pisses me off!
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 amThe Attila the Hun and further right group are already forming up to oppose Obama’s pick which should be no surprise. Rove is only one blowhard wingnut in a host. I can only hope he sticks them with a progressive liberal we’re going to hear the hue and cry might as well get some sport out of it
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 amAlberto Gonzales is a criminal!
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 amThat does feel so much better now…yawn.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 amAlecto – Obama is not Bush. I think he will get exactly what he thinks he’s getting. He already said he plans to replace Souter with someone like Souter, and Souter voted like a moderate Liberal (which to me means someone in the middle of the Liberal spectrum – not someone who is on the left on the Moderate spectrum, which would be a liberal Moderate). As a moderate Libral, I don’t particularlly support the far left in any political appointments. Either extreme left or extreme right is too far out there.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 amrocks911 Says:
That does feel so much better now…yawn.
I will e-send 100 bucks to you, if you can find any barfly post in which I’ve ever engaged in Karl Rove is a …-style comments. Just one. Easy money.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:50 amROVE: “President Obama…said he wanted a judge who would uphold the Constitution, but also a judge would be empathetic.These two things are in conflict.”
A)He’s implying that liberalism conflicts with the Constitution–i.e unconstitutional.
B)He’s implying that empathy is incompatible with the Constitution.
Either implication is utter BS.
The US Constitution established principles and a structure of government and justice that were in total significantly and historically empathetic to the common man, as was the Bill of Rights.
The subtext of Rove’s words is that liberal/progressive attitudes are a threat to the foundations of this country, and it’s all part of a theme that conservatives have chosen to emphasize now more than ever (think of the “list of socalists”, Bachmann’s call for “investigations” etc.).
It doesn’t matter whether the conservatives actually believe it or not. If they believe it, there’s no changing their beleifs. If they are just pandering to a base that worked for them in the past then they have sufficient allies and enablers in the media to continue “catapulting the propaganda” and to maintain what is really a psy-ops campaign.
The Republi-Cons policy is now wholly about undermining the present government in any way they can. This is asymmetric political ‘warfare’.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 amso what is rocks911’s plan for unseating Jon Tester?
Robert Byrd?
Ben Nelson?
Mary Landreau?
[Crickets]
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 amI dont hate Rove, but I do think he is uncivil.
Its called an opinion
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:58 amcan we please start…
Hypocrisy as a new Religion !!!
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:00 pmIf Rove is having a hard time keeping his mouth shut, maybe he should honor his subpoena and testify before congress.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:02 pmThe National Review’s Matthew Franck urges GOP senators not to filibuster Obama’s nominee. “Supreme Court nominations deserve an up-or-down vote,” he writes. But he also urges “Republicans to throw some sand in the gears” to slow down the confirmation process.
After re-reading this several times, it appears that he wants to show republicans are still relevant to the confirmation process, by re-inforcing the “party of No” label with real-world examples. He doesn’t say a qualified Obama nominee deserves to be confirmed, just that they shouldn’t give in too quickly. That is a tacit acknowledgement of political powerlessness. To “throw sand in the gears” could refer to political sausage-making, but in the Republic of No, all democratic desires are doa, so they can’t obstruct the process by offering to vote for democratic proposals in exchange for democratic nay votes on judicial nominees.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:03 pmMatt Franck says: Vote however you want but whine and cry and stomp your feet and flail your arms, for as long as possible, first.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:08 pmRove is stating that ‘no matter who’ Obama nominates, all neocons should automatically oppose that person simply because that person is ‘nominated by Obama’ and that, in and of itself, makes her/him completely unacceptable. I can’t help but believe because the R’s are non-thinking morons, that even if Obama nominated a conervative, the phucking R’s would oppose that pick due to the fact that ‘Obama nominated’ her/him. So it boils down to the very fact that ‘Obama’ nominates a person!
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 pmRove was against the party of no before he was for the party of no
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pmObama should nominate Specter…FSAGs
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pmI will be interested to watch this SCOTUS selection process unfold. I expect that Obama will appoint someone with a record that is (1) progressive and (2)collaborative (that is, more like Roberts than Scalia in terms of temperment).
Whoever it is, I am confident that it will be an excellent choice. The President, after all, is a former constitutional law professor and a deep thinker. It won’t be another Harriet Miers that’s for sure.
Rove can complain all he wants. He doesn’t have a vote. The more that Rove, Limpballs and Little Seanie Vanity remain the loudest voices of the republican party, the better. All they are doing is sealing the republicans’ future as a minority party.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 pmThere really are 2 Constitutions in this one country: how did this happen? When Rove speaks he really means states rights vs. federalism. This is the Civil War writ small. Texas, Alabama, etc aren’t going anywhere, unfortunately. They’re sucking to much money out of the rest of us to leave. Rove is a dispicable mercenary but he shooting blanks most of the time these days. Big Eddie is correct here and the topic of these Sellout Senators was discussed Thursday afternoon in TP.AS for what happens going forward Obama will be wise to target specific bills and projects in the Sellouts’ states and at conference reconciliation give these bastards an offer they can’t refuse. Sausage-making ain’t for the feint of heart but it works when you’re hungry for fed dollars.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pmKarl Rove says :
“she’s also likely to draw opposition from conservatives because her opinions on the Circuit Court of Appeals have been very liberal ….
Well… Judge Scalia is VERY CONSERVATIVE….and his Senate confirmation vote results….98 to 0!
Rove and the Republicans will fight Obama’s nominee…because that’s all they have.
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If I knew Sesli I might want to chat with her. Otherwise can I just get a small dish of the Selsi sorbet?
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 pmNo ProbLem
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:32 pmSanaLBurda Says:
Please stop posting the same silly thing on every thread. Those are all just links to the same blog. We don’t care.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm:S:S Nooo
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm:S:S Nooo
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May 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 pmWhy not? Tell us why before people just flag your ass out of here…
We discussed the no votes on Durbin’s bill the day of the vote. Where were you? It’s safe to say that nobody here voted for any of those blue dog (faux) Democrats. What would you like us to do about it. We pointed out that Arlen Specter voted no and President Obama needs to remember that as well.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pmYeah right! This is as insane as having Palin be president. No woman should in the supreme court b/c they are totally insane and all of them are closet lesbians who like to kill their own babies b/c its inconvenient to have a baby b/c they cant keep their legs close.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 pmThen out of grief for killing so many babies, they become lesbians.
No way should insane women make decisions. Not at least baby-murdering ones!
I’m a tad confused what the SanaLBurda postings are all about. =X Just figured it was some inside thing that I was out of the loop on.
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ladybastet Says:
I’m a tad confused what the SanaLBurda postings are all about. =X Just figured it was some inside thing that I was out of the loop on.
Yeah probably some lesbo circus act, you should go. I heard its great for attention whoring bisexuals lol
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pmKarl continues to lead his part off the cliff with his just say no bs. It doesn’t matter to him he doesn’t need to get votes from anybody. Elected Republicans would be wise to stop listening to him or Limbaugh.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:57 pmzeemastertroll, BITE ME.
FLAGGED.
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
zeemastertroll, BITE ME.
FLAGGED.
LOLOL! You cant stop me dude! I am a master at technology and I get so much enjoyment watching you guys shite yourselves if someone goes off message. This really is funny
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:00 pmLook who came back to say ‘hi!”
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:00 pmladybastet Says:
zeemastertroll Says:
Look who came back to say ‘hi!”
Yeah, I knew you’d know it was me after I clued you in. So like, you are bisexual meaning you still like the dick.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pmSo waddya say we hook up some time? You know, get each other off. Doodle bug shayne can video tape it while he smears grape preserves on his testicles
It’s safe to say that nobody here voted for any of those blue dog (faux) Democrats. What would you like us to do about it. We pointed out that Arlen Specter voted no and President Obama needs to remember that as well.
This reflects one of the problems with having a two-and-only-two party system of government. Too many people think that the answers lie with one party or the other. Often times, both parties are wrong about an issue.
I also believe that it is a mistake for Americans to only view things along Liberal-Conservative lines. I believe that most Americans are more Libertarian than Authoritarian, and it is the Authoritarian wing of the Republican Party that has caused the most damage to our nation. Unfortunately for us, the Democrats also have their Authoritarian wing, and they too often join the Authoritarian Republicans in bringing this country down.
We need to have multiple parties in Congress, enough so that no one party controls either House. Make it harder to pass any kind of legislation strictly along party lines. As we can see (thanks to the Bluedog Democrats), it doesn’t seem to matter to which party one belongs. It matters not only how Liberal or Conservative one is, but also how Libertarian or Authoritarian one is.
Not every issue needs to be boiled down to this or that, one or the other, black or white, in order to justify having two and only two parties. That system is not serving the American people well.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:03 pmWait, I thought you said you were going to shut this place down with your technological skills. FAILED.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 pmzeemastertroll Says:
May 2nd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Is all of your thinking this delusional?
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:06 pmIf anyone could turn me full lez it’s def you.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pmWayne, Barney Frank was on Bill Maher last night and he made a good point. The moderate/blue dog Democrats need to leave the party and go start their own party. Progressives who are the majority of the party get to keep the name and the power and the others need stop pretending to be Democrats.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:08 pmSo we had to change names again but still the site hasn’t been shut down by the alledged powers of the techno loser. What a freakin pussy…
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 pmI’m pretty sure women pretend to be lesbians where ever he goes.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
Is all of your thinking this delusional?
You say that like there is something wrong with that!
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pmAre you righteous? Kind? Does your confidence lie in this? Are you loved by all? Know that I was, too. Do you imagine your suffering will be any less because you loved goodness and truth?
There’s not some other world out there where everything’s gonna be okay. There’s just this one, just this rock.
I might be your best friend, and you don’t even know it.
In this world, a man, himself, is nothing. And there ain’t no world but this one.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:10 pm
ladybastet Says:
zeemastertroll Says: 78
If anyone could turn me full lez it’s def you.
Thats my goal, to make you 100% pathetic, instead of just 90%
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:11 pmI could not care less what Rove has to say. But seeing his name offers a place to ask..”Where is his testimony”? Why is he free from interrogation under the various ‘investigations’ into his activities as a Bush operative. Why is he given space to pontificate but not held accountable?
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pmIn this world, a man, himself, is nothing. And there ain’t no world but this one.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm—
Now this is some truly stupid shit. Wanna defend it with something that resembles thought. You can’t and won’t. Lame ass…
If anyone could turn me full lez it’s def you.
Thats my goal, to make you 100% pathetic, instead of just 90%
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May 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 pmObviously you have never met a full on hot lesbian…
dbadass Says:
In this world, a man, himself, is nothing. And there ain’t no world but this one.
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Now this is some truly stupid shit. Wanna defend it with something that resembles thought. You can’t and won’t. Lame ass…
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May 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm/
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and your point is….? What is your counterpoint to address, what is your alternative fantasy land after this world is up? What story do YOU believe in. When you are dead, you are dead, end of story, end of fantasy land
Added Rove, “What’s-her-name is probably a commie too. I don’t know, I haven’t read her bio or anything. But they should definitely shoot what’s-her-name down if they can.”
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pmdbadass Says:
If anyone could turn me full lez it’s def you.
Thats my goal, to make you 100% pathetic, instead of just 90%
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Obviously you have never met a full on hot lesbian…
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Of course I have, I lived in a gay district where you couldnt swing a cat without hitting someone who fell for the marketing hype.
But the thing is, women are only attractive for a short decade of life in late teens to late 20’s.
So a full on hot lesbian will become a nothing spinster with no man to support her in a few years.
Who cares?
Most women just do it nowadays to garner attention from guys. Yeah right, like that will turn into something more. Hey, Im bisexual, want to marry and support me? Pay for my chldren?
Um, most guys say no thanks, but they will screw them. That’s all they are good for and you know this man!
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pmBisexual chicks are just nothng more than cum dumpsters until you find a nice woman who respects herself
Well mostly I think there is this fantasy world were imaginary black Irish sun gods talk stupid shit in an effort to draw attention to themselves. It would be more fun if I could just apply the smacks directly to your face and them a few kicks to that melon head of yours while you wimper upon the ground…
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pmhad enough, I had the same problem. I emailed them.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pmHey Karl, keep up the good work. Democratics are loving every bit of it!
Karl Rove’s guidance brought the Republicans to this great historic point. His brilliance, great political skills and understanding have brought the Republicans to one point, irrelevance. I hope the Republican’s keep taking his advice, they will be a minority party for quit a while.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:21 pmzeemastertroll Says:
Wayne Ant Schneider Says:
Is all of your thinking this delusional?
You say that like there is something wrong with that!
The rest of your response confirmed my suspicions. All of your thinking is as delusional as believing that no woman should be on the Supreme Court because they are all crazy.
The foundations of your personal philosophy are not reality-based. Perhaps you would find more like-minded posters at another site. Take your time looking for it. Don’t let us keep you.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:22 pmGo to hell.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 pmzeemastertroll, YOU COULDN’T GET LUCKY IN A FEMALE PRISON WITH A FISTFUL OF PARDONS. STFU.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:24 pmJust an observation: these comments always start off spot on with thoughtful comments and dialogue. Then as the thread lengthens, this page becomes a venue for mean bantering and junior high “gotchas”. Why is that?
Anyway, my question is why this fat arse has not been hauled off to jail? whatever happened to the subpoenas that ordered him to testify before various committees?
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pmladybastet Says:
zeemastertroll Says: 94
Go to hell.
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Whats a matter? You just get a reality check sister? You arent worth nothing, every man who makes money will see you as damaged goods if you say you are bisexual.
You cant uncrack that egg mindless person who fell for the marketing hype lol
You, rot in hell like you should, that hell will be your life after you turn 30 and are ugly and wrinkly petting several cats that replaced your sexually based social life
Isn’t there someone younger? She’s close to my age and she will be retiring in 15 years. We need someone young so that they can remain on the court if another “bushie” gets elected. The Republicans figured this out a long time ago. Look, we still have Scalia and Thomas and Roberts and Alito are going to be with us for a long, long time.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
zeemastertroll, YOU COULDN’T GET LUCKY IN A FEMALE PRISON WITH A FISTFUL OF PARDONS. STFU.
Thankfully I make enough money to attract an educated level of women who respect themselves and dont have to market themselves as “maybe you will get a threesome with me if you date me bisexual” type.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:30 pmOf which the latter never studied in highschool, never went to college and has only her vagina to make it in this world. A big *yawn*
And even if I didnt want to get it wet, women are flooding the market with poon. They are all desparate and needy, thats why having them in an office of Supreme court or Vice president is just insanity.
zeemasterflashinthepan will be the next incarnation no doubt…
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pmZeemastertroll, what is your goal here? liberals already know that you rightwingnuts get off on saying derogatory things about women on TP. You just spew the same old bs and lies that you here from limpdick,shithannity,and billdo. Like your leaders in the repug party you never have any new ideas to help our country. You clowns got the sht kicked out of you in the last two election cycles and its driving you even more nuts then you allready are. GOOD RIDDANCE!
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:32 pmThankfully I make enough money
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and what exactly is it you do pretend guy?
Shocking, a troll that comes here to defend Karl Rove is saying hateful things about women.
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Zeemastertroll, what is your goal here? liberals already know that you rightwingnuts get off on saying derogatory things about women on TP. You just spew the same old bs and lies that you here from limpdick,shithannity,and billdo. Like your leaders in the repug party you never have any new ideas to help our country. You clowns got the sht kicked out of you in the last two election cycles and its driving you even more nuts then you allready are. GOOD RIDDANCE!
I am not a rightwinger, I hate them as much as I hate the average obese fat american like yourself.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pmI am anarchist, I hate tards like you dont think for yourself and follow in lockstep cherrypicked news to sway you like the sheeple you are.
I think the USA should break apart and be damned for what it has done to the rest of the world.
Thats not a republican mantra idiot
Funny how you sheeple project that since I dont agree with you. I must be a pos republican. When really, I am an independent thinker that thinks all Americans are lazy overpaid, obese slugs who rape the world.
How am I wrong?
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Thankfully I make enough money
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and what exactly is it you do pretend guy?
Im a doctor
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 pmNo you aren’t you are totally full of shit. What kind of doctor do you pretend to be. You aren’t shit.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pmzeemastertroll Says:
Im a doctor
I don’t believe you. You sound too ill-informed to be a doctor. Next you’re going to tell us you’re a gynecologist?
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:45 pmI am anarchist
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 pm— Since when are there anarchist doctors. Anarchy is for adolescents. It can not and does not and never has existed. Again you are just an attention seeking loser whose ass I can kick with words and fists… Either way you are the loser…
Hey zeem first of all im not obese but there you go again putting people down, typical wingnut. I also do think for myself just like the rest of the liberals at TP. 21% of the people admit to agreeing with the right and there the ones who watch fox and listen to limpdick. I dont cherry pick my news,i get my news from afew different outlets and then form my own opinon. Unlike you 21%ers who think fox is your god.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pmit must suck to be karla rove. at one time, you’re on top of the world, talking about a 30 gop domination in this country. a scant 10 years later, the only people who will return your calls are the shitstains at faux
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pmThe ‘pretend doctor’ (most doctors call themselves physicians) told us he is a Cardiologist and that his wife, who is also a ‘doctor’ lives in Australia. Although the troll states he’s Irish from South Africa via some other place he doesn’t live in the U.S. but is awaiting some kind of Visa to go somewhere.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pmHEY ROVE, I SAID HEY BOY!! PAY ATTENTION WHEN I’M LOOKING ATCHA BOY!! BOY GOT ABOUT AS MUCH ATTENTION SPAN AS A REPUBLICAN WITH HIS PANTS ON FIRE,(AND THAT’S A LOTTA REPUBLICANS). lISTEN, BOY, YOU GOTTA QUIT BARKING OFF LIKE THAT OR PEOPLE ARE GONNA SWEAR YOU ACTING LKE A MAD DOG AND HAVE YOUR NEUTERED AND THEN EUTHANIZED.
May 2nd, 2009 at 1:59 pmDismembering prostitutes doesn’t make you a surgeon, Brotha.
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 pmThe ‘pretend doctor’ (most doctors call themselves physicians) told us he is a Cardiologist and that his wife, who is also a ‘doctor’ lives in Australia. Although the troll states he’s Irish from South Africa via some other place he doesn’t live in the U.S. but is awaiting some kind of Visa to go somewhere.
and he fancies himself a lady’s man too. Everything about him is a lie.
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pmebbandflow, good call your absolutly right most docs do call themselves physicians.
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmladybastet Says:
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 pmProgressive are winning the arguments there too there too.
even on the issue of torture it’s about 60% against vs 40% for at the Dailybeast
From his first post at #71 zee has posted 13 times. He’s incredibly abusive. I’ve flagged him numerous times and his posts are still here. Why?
What’s up with TP letting all this abusive hate mongering stuff on their website?
Really, I don’t even need to read his shi*, it’s the same from his first post on. Can anyone tell me why TP can’t just block an ip address or something?
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 pmebbAndflow
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:20 pm—
Let’s not forget the sun god nonsense and the acid. Even for a poser this asshat is pretend…
Geez — this must be season for losing parties to play lets ‘pretend.’ One expects some opposition, but will the “Roves” of the world, give this president a chance? As I reflect the last big ‘war’over Supreme Court justices was that having to do with Clarence Thomas.
And if I recall..after a long drama Judge Thomas was seated. President Obama will prepare for the worse and as in the recent elections..win;
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May 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pmI am beginning to think BrothaBazillion, BrothaBill. DamasterTroll, ZeeMasterTroll is none other than Captain Mantastic…
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pmThats not a republican mantra idiot -=ZMT=-
You sound like an anaracho libertarian capitalist porcupine free stater…
May 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmI agree with the National Review guy, not on stalling but not to filibuster. Sometimes politics is a game that does not need to be played.
Personally I feel the Supreme Court should remain a moderate court, like it’s current makeup. Maybe a little more liberal of a swing justice. But I feel that having a moderate court allows a more mainstream look at how the Constitution applies to current state of the country.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pmOm C-SPAN yesterday I had the opportunity to watch a moot court competition from George Washington Law School. Justice Sotomayor was a member of the tribunal. So was chief Roberts and a colleague of Judge Sotomayor from the Second Circuit, Justice Guido Calabresi.
Both Justices Sotomayor and Calabresi were very impressive. I’d be happy to see either of them elevated to the Supreme Court. Justice Sotomayor may have the inside track since she’s a woman and is younger by 22 years but either would be a terrific addition to the Court.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmzeemastercretin
It will never fix your sad, lonely, pathetic life to come here to annoy us. You are a punk. A troll and a moron. You will just keep getting flagged your ignorant posts deleted and and banned. You can keep coming back with a new nick apparantly but everyone know you are the same ignorant piece of garbage and no one takes you seriously. You arent showing us anything except how stupid you are. You dont HAVE a message you just spew stupid worthless dribble. It isnt going to change the fact that in your life no one likes you no one respects you and you are just a worthless punk. A sad, pathetic, lonely nobody. That is what you are. You know it, I know it, we all know it. The thing is if you arent careful that is ALL YOU WILL EVER BE.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pmHello Mr. Rove,
Please slip this rope around your neck.
No, no, it’s not a noose – it’s a “special neck tie.
Good.
Ok, now, step up on this chair.
Good.
*kick*
*choke!*
Problem solved.
Next problem – economy.
May 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pmRove doesn’t know Steven Colbert is laughing at him. How you going to run a country if you can’t connect with other people?
The republicans cannot connect with other people. that’s it. They are OK people otherwise, but they don’t belong in politics.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmrocks911 Says:
barfly,
I thought I made my point. Let me reiterate, only bashing the lunatic fringe offers only a limited view of what is hurting this country. I suppose if it makes everyone feel good to hate the opposition exclusively than so be it.
You apparently haven’t been around here for very long. We quite often hold our own’s feet to the fire. We criticize where criticism is due and don’t follow the leader in lock step like the Republicant’s do.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm…she’s also likely to draw opposition from conservatives because her opinions on the Circuit Court of Appeals have been very liberal and very expansive.
I bet you anything he had that script written up before he even knew who he’d be talking about.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 pmbenji85 Says:
Personally I feel the Supreme Court should remain a moderate court, like it’s current makeup.
The current makeup of the court is far from moderate. You call Alito, Thomas, Scalila and Roberts “moderates”. They are all about as far right as you can get.
Therefore I think that it would only be appropriate for President Obama to appoint someone who is a true liberal. There are none of those on the court now. There are four far right conservatives so at least one true liberal is needed for some balance. Right now it’s balanced way too far to the right.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pmWhy…why…why people are you engaging this particularly odious troll? Why not ignore it. Then it will get bored and go away.
It’s getting really hard trying to get through threads on TP these days. There are way to many trolls with nothing to say other than hate and there are way too many posters who engage them.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:38 pmLOL, they remind me of a bunch of 6 year olds arguing on the playground. Grow up sheeple!
RT
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 pmPrivacy Center
Tjhe Privacy Center is total crap. I will see you banned as I have oh so often. You are gone losers..
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
It’s getting really hard trying to get through threads on TP these days. There are way to many trolls with nothing to say other than hate and there are way too many posters who engage them.
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In TOTAL agreement.
That’s why Admin gave us the Report Abuse tab… so we can blip some cretins outta here.
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pmRove the TRAITOR, THE LIER, THE WAR CRIMINAL, has something to say…
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pmXisithrus Says:
I am beginning to think BrothaBazillion, BrothaBill. DamasterTroll, ZeeMasterTroll is none other than Captain Mantastic…
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I don’t know about that. As annoying as mantastic could be, at least he TRIED making a point… this current POS… not a CHANCE.
That one is here to simply annoy and flame, PERIOD.
Just keep flagging it EVERY TIME it rears its ugly head.
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 pmTP, the title should actually read: “Rove Hypocritically Argues Right Should Oppose Potential Obama Court Pick Just Because She’s Picked By Obama”
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 pmI agree with Ed Shultz — we need a liberal on the SCOTUS.
A young one.
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:29 pmIt’s not a surprise that Karl Rove thinks of empathy as liberal and a bad thing. By his logic, the best Supreme Court Justice would be a sociopath.
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 pmZooey is young and has knowledge of the courts…
May 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 pmRemembe
http://www.io.com/~zikzak/troll_thesis.html” rel=”nofollow”>link
It will be a few years before enough data is collected to draw conclusions on the effects of robotripping, but spending an inordinate amount of time in a dissociative state can lead to erratic posting for obvious reasons.
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:22 pmWiley,
That’s incredible. The average age was 15.27 years, I guess that’s possible. The avg. IQ was 83, how can they even type? And the most amazing thing, ten years later their IQ actually decreases!
Sounds like zee to me.
May 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 pmI cant seem to flag anything. When I do a box comes up for comment and says hit the button but there is NO BUTTON on the box as it appears
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:03 pmZeematsertroll,
I mentioned this to you yesterday, and I will continue to mention this to you. However, even I doubt that either side, ourselves or you, will ever cave.
Anarchy is, sadly, not the answer, and I don’t really believe it’s your answer.
There needs to be a certain degree of government, or else I don’t think any of us would be here, able to express ourselves on ThinkProgress or RedState or anywhere. There would be no organization that would allow pundits to survive in protesting government. There would be no Rush Limbaugh, since there would be no government to protect his freedom of speech.
And you would fail to exist here too. Let’s face it; you need ThinkProgress to justify your existence. You need us “sheeple” to identify yourself.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmDoes Rove understand that the only rational thought during the 8 years of George Bush was from the liberals? Apparently not.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 pmKayInMaine Says:
Does Rove understand that the only rational thought during the 8 years of George Bush was from the liberals? Apparently not.
He without rational thought thinks that everyone else is irrational.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:32 pmExactly, Purple State. The man needs to be in an insane asylum!
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:56 pmHold on…Rove is a hypocrite…how quickly the Left forgets the flip-flops in their own camp:
Clinton supported enhanced interrogation…but doesn’t anymore
Pelosi supported enhanced interrogation…but doesn’t anymore
Specter was against changing parties mid-session…but thinks it’s OK now
Obama says NO more lobbyists…but then hires some
Obama says NO to private campaign donations…but then takes ~$600M
blah, blah, blah…etc. etc. etc.
Where’s the left’s ire for these people’s stances that blow in the political wind?
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 pmthis just in.. ugly reader comments have almost reached one thousand comments at the ABC torture twins page.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 pm#153:
Enhanced interrogation? Gee, that sounds better than saying, “torture”, huh? I guess when George Bush’s Regime defined torture as being painless, fun, enjoyable, and nutritious, I guess everyone got confused, huh?
WHY AREN’T YOU DEMANDING THE INVESTIGATION INTO TORTURE? Oh that’s right! You keep referring to it as ‘enhanced interrogation’ which could be confused with what our police do when they question witnesses to a crime for 8 hours without laying a hand on the person.
May 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pmKayinMaine says
I guess when George Bush’s Regime defined torture as being painless, fun, enjoyable, and nutritious, I guess everyone got confused, huh?
Huh…I must’ve missed that part in the memos…
WHY AREN’T YOU DEMANDING THE INVESTIGATION INTO TORTURE?
I’m all for investigating the torture allegations…as long as your precious Dems go down with the ship. Clinton…who created the rendition program…Pelosi who knew torture was being used…but then didn’t know (HA!)…
Sure, let’s hang ‘em all!
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:01 pmJaredfromTexas Says:
KayinMaine says
WHY AREN’T YOU DEMANDING THE INVESTIGATION INTO TORTURE?
I’m all for investigating the torture allegations…as long as your precious Dems go down with the ship. Clinton…who created the rendition program…Pelosi who knew torture was being used…but then didn’t know (HA!)…
Sure, let’s hang ‘em all!
You are conflating several things here and, I couldn’t help but notice, trying to pin Bush’s torture program on Clinton.
The issue isn’t the renditioning of people, which was despicable in and of itself. It’s the way people who were renditioned under Bush were treated. And the issue is Bush, not Clinton. Do you have any proof that the people Clinton had renditioned were tortured, or is that just speculation?
As for Pelosi knowing that torture was being used, I would like to see proof of that, too. She says that the administration never said that they were actually using the illegal techniques (and they were illegal). And John Boehner’s allegations that she knew all the details is unfounded, as far as I can tell. So, if you can prove that Pelosi (and Reid) knew about the details of the torture techniques being used on prisoners, I want to see it.
And you know what? If they are guilty, then they should go to jail, too. Hell, we’re already pissed off at them for not impeaching bush when they won in 2006. You’ll find few people here who want to see those two remain in their leadership positions.
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pmI’d like to say for the record that this is one of the more intelligent blogs and a great read. But it would be nice if some of us could restrain ourselves from childish and silly name-calling. It’s behavior we wouldn’t tolerate in our children; why do we do it? Because we’re adults and we can? Because blogs afford us anonymity? I am VERY aware that Republican blogs say absolutely NASTY things about us. SO? Aren’t we supposed to be better? Smarter?
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 pmFor almost forty years the rabid religious right-wingers have been trying to pack the Supreme Court with anti-abortion justices so as to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Where Supreme Court nominees are concerned, the culture of corruption Republican Party is still a one issue party.
Thus, they will block any nomination by President Barack Obama of anyone even remotely Pro-Choice…and with the help of the equally corrupt social conservative “centrist” DINO Blue Dog Democrats, it is highly unlikely that any liberal, progressive Pro-Choice candidate will be either offered or accepted…without President Barack Obama making some major concessions on other issues to the culture of corruption Republicans and equally corrupt DINO Blue Dog Democrats.
So, I doubt that any nomination to replace Justice Souter will be ready to take their place on the Supreme Court by the beginning of the next Supreme Court term in October, but if President Barack Obama bows to social conservative anti-abortion pressure and “compromises,” nominating someone who is “acceptable” to them, then women’s rights in the United States will be set back to the level of the women in Afghanistan under the similarly social conservative Taliban and al Qaeda…meaning that the Taliban and al Qaeda will have won their battle against our liberal democracy and our liberal ideals, with women in both America and Afghanistan (as well as parts of Pakistan) being viewed as the freedomless property of right-wing religious fundamentalist fanatics.
This is why President Barack Obama’s decision is so important. He stands athwart the divide between those who want to subvert a woman’s right to have control over her own body, subjugating her to their warped, twisted and anti-American religious dogma, and those who believe that American women (and all women) have an inalienable and God-given right to determine for themselves questions involving their own flesh without obnoxious and anti-freedom religious terrorists trying to interfere with her decision.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 pmWayne Ant says
You are conflating several things here and, I couldn’t help but notice, trying to pin Bush’s torture program on Clinton.
There’s no “trying” to it. Clinton created the rendition program…Bush followed suit. If I could draw you a picture…I would.
The issue isn’t the renditioning of people, which was despicable in and of itself. It’s the way people who were renditioned under Bush were treated. And the issue is Bush, not Clinton. Do you have any proof that the people Clinton had renditioned were tortured, or is that just speculation?
Do you not know what “rendition” is? It’s the process by which detainees are transferred to foreign countries for “questioning”. Opining that torture didn’t take place under Clinton’s program…but it did under Bush’s is just about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Do a sanity check on that one and get back to me.
As for Pelosi…she and several members of Congress were toured around a detention facility and explained what interrogation techniques were being applied…to which Pelosi asked “are you sure we’re being tough enough?”
Also, as a “perk” of her position…she received numerous briefings on the subject of enhanced interrogation techniques. (also included in the article).
I honestly wonder what it’s like to blindly follow without questioning…because it’s obvious to me that’s what you’ve been doing. Not wanting to do your own research on the topic you’re defending…instead relying on your elected officials to tell you what’s “right” and what’s “wrong”.
So sad…
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pmWizard says
the culture of corruption Republican Party is still a one issue party.
Perhaps you missed all the news of Blago…or william jefferson…or Geithner…or Rangel…or Dodd…or Hastings…
Yeah…corruption is all on the Republican side…
Oh, by the way, your overly spectacular supposition on the appointment of a socially conservative judge is asinine, unfounded and disingenuous. Oh…and dumb…can’t forget that one…
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:56 pmdbadass Says:
zeemasterflashinthepan will be the next incarnation no doubt.
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actually d**chebag, I think I will think of something a bit more clever
wizard2000 Says:
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Well said, wizard.
May 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pmWhat is so wrong about wanting a Supreme court justice to follow the law of the Constitution? I could care less if a person is liberal or conservative, what is important they make decisions based on the constitution and not use the position to legislate.
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 amI’m a conservative and this is how I feel about the abortion issue.
It is a never ending war that is based on FEDERAL power. If Pro life wins . .an underground market is created and the war goes on till again Pro choice wins and funnels endless federal dollars into the assembly line programs to “control population”, the TRUE core reason it is such a hot issue. Progressive environmental concerns about over population.
What if we decide to take the position that the federal government has no place at all in the choice. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nothing. No position at all. OK . .Pro life does not get a law that would not have stopped the practice anyway. What they DO get is a rock solid foundation to stop any and all funding of any kind going to family planing. The FED will not be involved in any way what so ever with a womans choices OR responsibility. That will be between her and her god. Do that, refund Family planing, and you close the assembly line. THAT will do more to reduce the NUMBER of abortions than anything we have done to date. Take the funding.
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 amJaredfromTexas,
Hi. I looked at the article to which you linked and I found no support for this statement:
As for Pelosi…she and several members of Congress were toured around a detention facility and explained what interrogation techniques were being applied…to which Pelosi asked “are you sure we’re being tough enough?”
Nowhere does the article say that Pelosi made this comment.
I honestly wonder what it’s like to blindly follow without questioning
So do I.
…because it’s obvious to me that’s what you’ve been doing.
And it’s obvious to me that you don’t know me every well. I do not “blindly follow” anybody. I do my own thinking. Ask around.
Not wanting to do your own research on the topic you’re defending…instead relying on your elected officials to tell you what’s “right” and what’s “wrong”.
Actually, it was a matter of me asking you to back up something you said. I also said I would re-evaluate any opinions I had based on the new information. So I will repeat what I said above:
And you know what? If they are guilty, then they should go to jail, too. Hell, we’re already pissed off at them for not impeaching bush when they won in 2006. You’ll find few people here who want to see those two remain in their leadership positions.
If she is guilty of conspiracy to commit a war crime, then she should be prosecuted along with Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld and Rice and Bybee and Yoo and Gonzales and…
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 amThat perfidious troglodytic homunculus Rove should be hanged by his thumbs…
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Wayne Ant Schneider Says:
Nowhere does the article say that Pelosi made this comment.
Oops…in that article it did say that Pelosi was briefed on the torture techniques used…
Here is the link where Porter Goss specifically remembers Pelosi asking if we’re doing enough…
May 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 amRove is probably one person who should actually face consequences for his actions in the Bush White House. Why would honest, law-abiding Americans, of any political party listen to what comes forth from his mouth?
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Karl Rove; lying shill for the party of can’t.
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:04 amBig surprise.
I cannot help but think that Obama is going to disappoint a lot of people that voted for him with his Supreme Court pick, based on his appointment track record so far.
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:57 amKarl: just STFU.
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm