Comments on: At meeting with Obama, GOP leaders were ‘unprepared’ to make any ‘concessions’ on health care.

By: hahatohopeandchange

hahatohopeandchange — Sat, 09 May 2009 13:43:50 +0000

some funny things about this, I remeber just a little while ago, I don’t know maybe you were all too young to remember, but I remember another minority party in congress do something similar, oh yeah the democrats with Bush, no to this no to that, we are not going to even listen to what you say, by the way we hate you Bush. So how about you all look at history, which is something you need to do alot more and stop being a hipocrit. Anyway, healthcare should only be changed in that it gets better by allowing new breakthroughs to be accepted by the FDA sooner. Other than that it is fine. Yeah there are people without healthcare but whose fault is that, thier OWN. If they really needed they would find a way to pay for it. Maybe thay would not buy that new car, or cut back on cable TV, I don’t there are plenty of way. I am a sophomore college student, I have no loans, no parental help, rent my own place, pay my own insurance, all by myself. It is not that hard.

By: Robt E Lee

Robt E Lee — Sat, 09 May 2009 11:25:31 +0000

’bout time somebody stood up for Americans & their pocketbooks. Socialized medicine is wayyyyyyyy too expensive (except for gay males without families to support)….nobama’s on his way to yet ANOTHER trainwreck, MISTIMED too. With unemployment at >500,000, who’s gonna pay for making the country socialist????……haven’t seen evidence that the economy is back to where it was even a year ago..at least the GOP is showing some COMMON SENSE lacking in the CinC.

By: halimcan

halimcan — Wed, 06 May 2009 08:41:02 +0000

thanks…

By: nycbassist

nycbassist — Wed, 06 May 2009 05:31:43 +0000

Now wait a minute. He’s going to allow a cap on lawsuits, no matter how criminal the error on the part of the doctors? He’s going to take a juries judgment out of it, and put assign a value on a human life? Or how much it costs to take care of someone disabled by a doctor’s negligence? Is THAT really what we need to do to get the republican bastards to agree? Oh, and THAT’S not enough. The hell with them all. Just go reconciliation.

By: Midland

Midland — Wed, 06 May 2009 01:21:35 +0000

Second, I realized why the Republicans aren’t actually doing any compromising in these bipartisan efforts. Not only is it because they have nothing to offer, it’s because they don’t want the legislation to happen in the first place.

Waitaminute, you just figured thi . . .

I mean, congratulations on achieving enlightenment . . .

I mean, shrewd insight, there!

By: Jane E. Schneider

Jane E. Schneider — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:53:54 +0000

CZ-1 Says:
May 5th, 2009 at 12:01 pm

I think that you misunderstood MK3872’s comment, which was pointing out that it’s part of the Republican’s strategy to say that ‘Obama is breaking a campaign promise of being bipartisan or post-partisan.’

By: liberal

liberal — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:37:53 +0000

I have 2 new names for the Republican party:

The GOPranos

The Republiklan party

By: liberal

liberal — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:32:27 +0000

Read and sign these legislative petitions please and get hundreds of people to sign them and they will automatically go to Republican minority leaders Sen. McConnell and Rep. Boehner right away once you sign the petiton. One of these involves a demand for single payer health care, another for EFCA, $10 an hour minimum wage, etc.

http://tinyurl.change.org/EzKoE

http://tinyurl.change.org/upFFg

http://tinyurl.change.org/SmldU

http://tinyurl.change.org/zcCYl

http://tinyurl.change.org/DppEP

By: Marie

Marie — Tue, 05 May 2009 18:07:16 +0000

Let’s hear it again, repugs — say you are not the party of NO….it’s just that you use that word a lot.
Bipartisanship? What is that, you say? My way or no way – that’s your version of bipartisanship.
Keep it up – get your popularity down to single digits – and see what that gets you.

By: delafield

delafield — Tue, 05 May 2009 17:57:51 +0000

Republican lawmakers never complain about the government run, universal health care coverage that they receive courtesy of American taxpayers. Yet, Republicans think that it’s a bad health care plan for the rest of us.

Why?

By: LeeHope

LeeHope — Tue, 05 May 2009 17:39:39 +0000

This is just a diversion being thrown out there by the GOP….When you have nothing to offer, you try to make it look like you do…this is not a question about bipartisanship, at least the kind that the GOP wants…which is “their way or the highway….” That’s all fine, but please…..have some thing to offer in return!

By: misscoleopteramolly

misscoleopteramolly — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:51:32 +0000

Uosdwis Says
May 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

Say you had a $100 a month health premium. Say you “fixed” malpractice. Now your premium is $99. Big f’ing deal. THIS is their major plan.
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And the trade-off for that extra dollar you get to pocket is that you can’t sue for damages if your surgeon cuts off your good leg.

By: buzzbomb

buzzbomb — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:34:14 +0000

F uck the obstructionist GOP hypocritical pigs. THese people should be ran through the streets and have garbage thrown at them.

By: Reparations4TheBlackHolocaustNOW

Reparations4TheBlackHolocaustNOW — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:32:28 +0000

From the CIA’s web site. Here is a list of countries that have greater life expectancies than the U.S.

You’ll notice that most of these places have “rationed” health care systems.

Macau 84.36
Andorra 82.51
Japan 82.12
Singapore 81.98
San Marino 81.97
Hong Kong 81.86
Australia 81.63
Canada 81.23
France 80.98
Sweden 80.86
Switzerland 80.85
Guernsey 80.77
Israel 80.73
Iceland 80.67
Anguilla 80.65
Cayman Islands 80.44
Bermuda 80.43
New Zealand 80.36
Italy 80.20
Gibraltar 80.19
Monaco 80.09
Liechtenstein 80.06
Spain 80.05
Norway 79.95
Jersey 79.75
Greece 79.66
Austria 79.50
Faroe Islands 79.44
Malta 79.44
Netherlands 79.40
Luxembourg 79.33
Germany 79.26
Belgium 79.22
Saint Pierre and Miquelon 79.07
Virgin Islands 79.05
United Kingdom 79.01
Finland 78.97
Jordan 78.87
Isle of Man 78.82
Korea, South 78.72
European Union 78.67
Puerto Rico 78.53
Bosnia and Herzegovina 78.50 Saint Helena 78.44
Cyprus 78.33
Denmark 78.30
Ireland 78.24
Portugal 78.21
Wallis and Futuna 78.20

The Dems should hammer this point through to the American people who are going to be told by “conservatives” that they are going to DIE if they have “rationed” health care.

By: Amy

Amy — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:25:44 +0000

First I facepalmed that Obama would offer “tort reform.” Curbing malpractice awards is just a sop to the right, because in reality malpractice awards have zero impact on health insurance rates.

Second, I realized why the Republicans aren’t actually doing any compromising in these bipartisan efforts. Not only is it because they have nothing to offer, it’s because they don’t want the legislation to happen in the first place.

They don’t want health care reform at all! They think – and say – everything is hunky-dory as is. Is anyone surprised that all they can do when a real proposal is put in front of them and they’re asked for their ideas all they can do is cross their arms, stick out their bottom lip, and pout, “NO!”

By: tarazan

tarazan — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:16:53 +0000

The Republicans branded themselves for so many years as ‘the party of new ideas’, but where are those ideas..?
Just like saying we are the party of professors, but no degrees to show.!!

By: NOLIESPLEASE

NOLIESPLEASE — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:11:27 +0000

Ok folks, some simple math;

Wife made 40k last year.

Her contribution to single payer $1300.00 taken in the form of a tax.(That is full contribution for the Year)

Her deductables $0.00

Insurance for deductable $0.00

Did anyone tell her what doctor to see ?? NO

Can she choose her doctor? yes

Was she ever denied access or require approval for any proceedure??? NO

Can she leave any company she wishes because companies don’t provide her insurance??? YES!!!

Now lets look at my cousin in Ohio

Cousin made $28k ( plus a medical insurance $1400.00 PER MONTH)

Cousin portion of decuctable $400 per month (family of four)

Insurance to cover deductable $150 per month(family of Four)

Total cost to cousin $6,600 per year.

Cousin has to wait for approval of HMO before any proceedue.

Cousin has to choose doctor from that HMO only.

Cousin may loose insurance because of his latest illness, he may not be renewed when policy is up this fall.

SO PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME, WHY THE FOR PROFIT SYSTEM IS BETTER FOR THE AMERICAN CITIZEN??????

By the way, that money we save pays vacations, mortgage, car payments. This allows us to live life with worries about corporations taking our wealth in case of illness.

One last note, what do you do when you’ve run up your total cost of your policy???? DIE????? Is that the solution your government wants?????

GOD BLESS CANADA!!! AND BRITIAN , FRANCE , ITALY, SPAIN , SWEEDEN, FINLAND , ICELAND, AND ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT LOOK AFTER THERE CITIZENS!!!

By: Uosdwis

Uosdwis — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:10:13 +0000

Say you had a $100 a month health premium. Say you “fixed” malpractice. Now your premium is $99. Big f’ing deal. THIS is their major plan.

By: CZ-1

CZ-1 — Tue, 05 May 2009 16:01:37 +0000

mk3872 Says:

That’s because saying that Obama is breaking a campaign promise of being bipartisan or post-partisan is part of their strategy.

I call B.S. Obama made concessions on the recovery & reinvestment act, and he repeatedly asked the GOP for the their input. They never acknowledged the concessions, the only input they gave him was, “Change it so that it’s all tax cuts,” and then NONE of them voted for it in the House and almost NONE voted for it in the Senate. Same thing happened on the budget. Now on health care Obama has made some concessions, and asked for input. So far the GOP has given him NOTHING.

Obama has been bipartisan. The GOP has not returned that effort. That does not take away Obama’s bipartisanship. Get it?

By: mk3872

mk3872 — Tue, 05 May 2009 15:52:09 +0000

NO FRIGGIN KIDDING!

That’s because saying that Obama is breaking a campaign promise of being bipartisan or post-partisan is part of their strategy.

The fact that at last night’s Plouffe v Rove session, Rove hammered numerous times on Obama not being bipartisan is all the proof you need.

When it comes from the message-master himself, you know it’s been circulated around to all GOP ops: call Obama PARTISAN.