DC Council recognizes out-of-state same-sex marriages.
By on May 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
DC Council recognizes out-of-state same-sex marriages.
After an “emotional debate” today, the DC Council gave “final approval to legislation that recognizes same-sex marriages performed in other jurisdictions. … The issue now goes before Congress, which has final say over the city’s laws.” The vote was originally unanimous, until “councilman Marion Barry proclaimed that he didn’t realize what he was voting for and asked for reconsideration of the measure. The measure was amended to another bill.” Berry said that his nay vote was an “‘agonizing and difficult decision’ that he made after prayer and consulting with the religious community.”
Update Speaking to reporters today, Berry said that a "civil war" will break out if DC recognizes same-sex marriages. "All hell is going to break lose," he added.
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Is this the same Marion Barry?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm“‘agonizing and difficult decision’ that he made after prayer and consulting with the religious community.”
It would be nice if these representatives would actually consult with the people that the laws actually have an effect on.
SJ
May 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pmBerry said that his nay vote was an “‘agonizing and difficult decision’ that he made after prayer and consulting with the religious community….
..and hitting my crack pipe a few times”, continued Barry.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pmBerry said that his nay vote was an “‘agonizing and difficult decision’ that he made after prayer and consulting with the religious community.”
So, Berry did the right thing at first. Then he “consulted with the religious community”, and decided to violate the rights of his constituents.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:36 pmthe way to a man’s bigotry, is through is nostrils.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pm.
Did Barry say this before the crack whore and pipe or after?
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May 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pmLifegiving water
May 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pmTruth weaves its way around rocks
Mountains become sand
Well I guess it’s a good thing that Barry is so deeply committed to a seperation of Church and State and the apparent crazy notion that somehow all men are created equal. It’s just too bad that america’s founders didn’t write those things down somewhere to guide future leaders.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm.
See, this is exactly why civil unions are more difficult and in many ways, the road block to advancing equality. States Rights in recognizing marriages vs. States Rights recognizing civil unions. With the DC vote, it sends a message that States recognize marriages from other States whereas civil unions, not so much.
Just imagine the uproar in the Congress…
I want to know who doesn’t support my right to be legally recognized in other parts of the Country I live in.
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May 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pmLeave it to Barry, cocaine czar [don't you dare do a line that I could do] to put his ‘nay’ vote out there. I bet he’s gotten laid with every conceivable person imaginable and yet he has the gall to say ‘no, the lord made me do it’. Cocaine Barry!
But it’s good to know DC got this through their legislature. Good on them!
May 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pmApparently somebody showed him the new video they have of him.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pmDaryll, you want to field this one?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pmAs one who works in DC but (thankfully) lives outside the city, I’m not surprised by Barry’s flip-flop. On a daily basis, we see on the teebee how this disgraced former mayor continues to disgrace himself and the people he represents in his Ward. The latest: he’s been having trouble keeping up with paying his taxes; is on probation for this, and just two weeks ago got into trouble for not paying his taxes again!
Nothing this guy does surprises most of us anymore…as someone once said “he just ain’t right in the head”…
May 5th, 2009 at 12:52 pm“…councilman Marion Barry proclaimed that he didn’t realize what he was voting for…”
Wait, so he was high when he read it? Then he got religion?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pmshoeless,
May 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pmBecause we all know a theocracy is an American principle…
… Well Berry thinks so, anyway.
Hi shoeless. Why do I get the feeling that Marion Barry is “Darryl”?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pmHmmmmm, I think you have something there.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:56 pmOh, and by the way, Art. IV, section 1 of the U.S. Constitution (the “full faith and credit” section) pretty much takes care of the “recognizing marriages performed in other states” stuff:
“Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.”
So if marriage equality is the law in one state, every other state that doesn’t have a conflicting law on its own books is bound under the U.S. Constitution to recognize marriages performed in that first state.
Yet another piece of evidence demonstrating that the cancervatives of this country hate the U.S. Constitution…
May 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pmHey, at least Barry came out of his drug-induced haze to realize he should probably pay attention. Apparently he has a few lucid moments.
Now come the questions. Will employers in Washington DC now be required to give the same benefits to their employees with same sex spouses as they do to employees with opposite sex spouses? If so, will this also apply to the largest employer in Washington — the federal government? And if so, will the federal government then grant benefits to ALL same-sex spouses of their employees whether they live in DC or not?
I see dominoes going down here…
May 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pmDoes anyone know if Marion Berry is married to a pregnant woman who is going around town having oral sex with every man she meets?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pmCan we make D.C. a state and add two more Dems to the Senate?
PEACE
May 5th, 2009 at 12:58 pmThat’s why they want a Constitutional amendment. They know if this ever gets to the Supreme Court, they will lose.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:01 pmThinking = praying.
Group discussions = Praying together.
Saying “pray” sounds great to the “base”. It hits the hot buttons.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm“he made after prayer and consulting with the religious community…”
He makes his legal, legislative decisions based on religious doctrine?
How about looking at existing constitutional law, legal precedents… ya know, radical stuff like that?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pmDogfather,
May 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pmThat is why many States have had their religious communities press for legislation defining marriage between one man and one woman. This way, when other States recognize gay marriage, States that have excluded same sax marriage from that definition don’t have to recognize gay marriages from other States. Thus, another legal fight ahead for the Gay community to establish equality.
Are you attacking Barry because of his past, or his vote on this measure. I don’t see the agony in allowing people to marry whom they wish, as long as it doesn’t affect me. I think a lot of people fear gay marriage because it will somehow impact them. Well there a couple of possibilities that may cause this fear. One is that if gay marriage were allowed, the temptation to realize their fears about the own denial of their own true sexuality. The other possible reason has to do with limited mental capacity.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pmMarion Barry was taped hitting a crack pipe for crying out loud. Who would listen to anything this man has to say.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pmMarion Barry is still in politics?
Go figure…
May 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pmThe religious community still in politics?
Go figure…
May 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pmIt has nothing to do with praying or checking the religious community. It has to do with granting people the rights they deserve.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm“I am a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman” – thus sayeth our saviour Barack Obama.
Apparentlay Marion, Barack and Miss California have one thing in common. Now lets all get together and trash “the one.”
May 5th, 2009 at 1:11 pmMarrion Berry is still in politics?
Go figure…
May 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pmOops, sorry Vituperation Toxicity. Didn’t see yours.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pmYep — that was my point, Max: all DC has done is said it will recognize marriages legally performed in other states, which it is bound to do anyway because it doesn’t have a conflicting law on its own books.
Of course, the other interesting debate is that DC is not a State (as the repukes keep reminding us every time the issue of Congressional representation for DC comes up), so the DC government may not, in fact, be bound under the US Constitution to recognize all marriages performed in other states. Perhaps that’s a more important reason why the DC Council’s move today is so important — it takes away that element of the argument from the cancervatives…
May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pmPresident Obama is wrong on this issue. I’ve always maintained that position. Religious people can have all the traditions they want. However, if the government is going to decide who can and cannot participate in traditions, it should get out of the tradition business.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pmGMTA, Max.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pmSeems to me that ought to apply to medicinal marijuana prescriptions, too.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pm37 – there’s an important point you’re leaving out, which is that the Pres. understands there is a clear separation between his personal articles of faith, and the conduct of our democratic republic. you should expect him to abide by the law of the land and the decisions of the electorate – something his political opponents will not do.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:16 pmTalk about “Special Rights” issues…
… DC is breaking the barrier of keeping marriage a “Special Right” of heterosexuals.
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May 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pmMax Anax junius -1 Says:
Talk about “Special Rights” issues…
… DC is breaking the barrier of keeping marriage a “Special Right” of heterosexuals.
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No special right for straights!
May 5th, 2009 at 1:35 pmtombaker Says: Seems to me that ought to apply to medicinal marijuana prescriptions, too.
It does, Tom — unfortunately, marijuana posession is illegal in every state and under federal law unless the state law makes an exception for medicinal use. However, no other state is bound under the constitution to recognize that exception in another state’s law since it’s in conflict with the law of the first state where the exception doesn’t exist.
And that’s why this is also a state-by-state fight…
May 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pmIs this the same Marion Berry caught smoking crack with a hooker?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:41 pmMaine just passed marriage equality.
http://www.tips-q.com/896035-breaking-marriage-bill-passes-maine-house-89-58
May 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pmVituperation Toxicity…
… But I thought being gay was special? /snark.
But if you look at it from the perspective that many anti-gay marriage people do, that granting marriage rights to homosexuals is granting them “special Rights” when what it does is elevate gay couples to be equal to those that already are elevated to this stature of a “Special Right”.
It was not a special Rights issue to allow women to vote. It was an equal Rights issue. That “Special Right” was for men only.
It was not a special Rights issue to allow blacks to sit at a lunch counter. It was an equal Rights issue. That “Special Right” was for whites only.
It is not a special Rights issue to allow TWO CONSENTING ADULTS to marry in a court of law. Insisting that marriage remain between a man and a woman is insisting that heterosexuals require “Special Rights” that bar the gay community.
All of which is rooted in the bigotry and hate.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pmI completely agree, Max.
The hate-mongerers use the words “special rights” because they know their base is so stunningly ignorant that they won’t bother to look at the facts.
It’s hard for me to wrap my mind around the attraction for such a base, but I guess it works for them.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:58 pmHea, it’s keeps their fingers busy…
May 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm… You know, can’t have idol hands.
Yep, Obama is wrong on this one.
Religious marriage should indeed be subject to the tenets and beliefs of that faith. My UU congregation stands ready to marry me as soon as it is legal in Minnesota. And I get that most Baptists/Catholics/Muslims etc won’t.
But civil marriage is a civic, non-religious contract, rite and right.
I’m not going to be all vituperative and nasty on this the way the ‘wingers are, but “the One” (whatever, Beethoven) is sadly wrong this time.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:17 pmWho cares? DC is like the murder capital of the US with all the black population. You’d think theyd have more important things to worry about this tired lame topic.
The governmnet shouldnt allow marriage. That can be done through churches for people who belong to them for it would be between a man and a woman.
THe government should only allow legal civil unions that even if someone wanted to marry their St. Bernard dog can do.
That way you dont have government changing the meaning of a word that stood for centuries as a marriage between a man and a woman.
Wanting to steal and manipulate the word marriage is just another leftist attack on Christians that they hate so much.
Let’s call a spade a spade on that. My solution is best. Get the government out of marriage altogether. Everyone regardless gets a legal civil untion. Problem solved
May 5th, 2009 at 2:26 pm#50 flagged for racist comment
May 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pmIt passed in the council without him.
Maybe giving the gay community the right to marry will be good for marriage. Maybe people will see that marriage requires more than a man and a woman. No-fault divorced came about because the courts were fed up with the drama. The drama continues, but there is less of it and it is less toxic. There might be less drama still, if people considered marriage more carefully as a commitment, and less as a rite of passage.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pmMarion, your truthful excuse is HORSE, sir.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:24 pmPatrioticLiberalChristianMantisReligiosa Says:
#50 flagged for racist comment
May 5th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Wouldn’t it be more helpful to correct him that to flag him?
May 5th, 2009 at 4:00 pmWho cares? DC is like the murder capital of the US with all the black population.
Assuming this is true: “…murder capital of the US…,” then why is that?
I always knew bit was a moron and a bigot. Now it is clear he is a racist piece of garbage too. Take your self righteous psuedopiety and deposit it where the Sun never shines then go away and STFU
May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 pm>Is this the same Marion Barry?
Yep…Marion “Remind me not to smoke crack before i vote on something” Barry….
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