Get your coal ringtones!
By on May 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Get your coal ringtones!
The coal industry has taken incredible pains to make coal seem “clean,” “affordable,” and even “adorable.” In December, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity notoriously launched a campaign featuring animated lumps of coal singing Christmas carols. Now, the West Virginia Coal Association has posted six “Coal is West Virginia Ringtones.” Among the tunes are the “New Orleans Mix,” “Male Voice Choir (Up Tempo Mix),” and “Gospel Mix.” A sampling of the lyrics:
Coal is West Virginia,
Coal is me and you.
Coal is West Virginia,
We’ve got a job to do.
Coal is energy,
Coal is energy,
We need energy!
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Maybe the industry would have better luck marketing coal as “unrefined diamonds”.
May 6th, 2009 at 7:58 pm“Coal is very dirty,
Coal is never nice,
Coal is just as nasty
as a head with lice.
Coal is money,
May 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pmCoal is money,
Now gimme my moneeeeey!”
Coal ringtones!!!!!!!!!!!!! Spit.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:01 pmNO WAY! WTF? This is just fugging nutz! When I see coal I think about people covered in soot, black lung, coal miners daughters, dirty smokestacks and misery. Coal is dirty stuff and it’s so corny of these fools to try and cram clean coal mantras down our throats. Everytime I see the ad with Obama talking about clean coal – I cringe. That’s one I wish Obama would take back.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:02 pmcoal is black lung
coal is being buried alive
Come on everybody, SING!!
May 6th, 2009 at 8:03 pmI can do better.
Coal is effing poison
May 6th, 2009 at 8:03 pmCoal is toxic waste
Coal is gonna kill us
Unless we change our ways
Coal is a big problem
Coal is a big problem
We need to fix the problem
Coal is dirty,
May 6th, 2009 at 8:11 pmSo is the republic party
Coal is unhealthy,
So is the republic party
Coal is black,
Not allowed in the republic party
Coal is shiny and leaves a film,
So does the pointed heads of the republic party!
How about putting their “energy” into that whole carbon capture technology instead of all of this cutsie crap?
If the coal industry wants to remain relevent and viable, ringtones and dancing lumps of coal (at Christmas? do they not know their Santa history?) are not the way I’d go if I was advising the industry.
PEACE
May 6th, 2009 at 8:12 pmActually, what’s REALLY funny is the new tune being sung by the wacko environmentalists over clean, renewable energy like WIND and SOLAR.
They are now complaining that it’s “too much too fast.” They don’t likne the windmills spoiling their view!!!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 8:17 pmSo what happens after they’ve dug it all up, and it’s all been burned?
Hope all those W. Virginians are content with leaving a hole in the ground for their descendents to live in.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:17 pmDAMN!!! what an insult to West Virginians intellect.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:20 pmOh goodie.
I’m getting the one that says;
“Daddy died in a coal mine cave in”
May 6th, 2009 at 8:25 pmOh..wait…this one looks good too.
“Daddy’s Got Black Lung and Momma Don’t Care”
:)
That ones a must have.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:26 pm“Coal is you and me”… in twenty million years, under the right conditions of pressure and lack of oxygen, that is…
May 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pmThe sad fact is that since the transnational elitists in Washington sent most of the remaining living-wage jobs to places like Mexico, Canada, Brazil and China, you will find what’s left of living-wage earners will aggressively fight to maintain their ability to provide for their families.
If you want to get away from coal in places like West Virginia, this will require real election finance and real lobbist reform, which will lead to real national healthcare and a trade policy that makes it cheaper for transnational corporations to manufacture at home.
It’s easy to get mad at West Virginians for feeling this way, but I am sure they would prefer working somewhere above ground anyways.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pmWe need green jobs now. I believe by pushing for green jobs most of the manufacturing jobs that were lost can be replaced. Someone has to build, maintain and install solar panels, wind turbines and smart energy power grids. Old homes need to be weatherized. It’s amazing what we could do if grandstanding GOPers would get out of the way.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:50 pmWTF???
Where is “16 Tons??”
Ah, that Tennessee Ernie Ford…
May 6th, 2009 at 8:57 pmGot a link for that, Timmeh? The only complaints that I’ve seen about windmills is:
a. Concerns about the safety of birds.
May 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pmand
b. Shallow phuckers who complain about their view.
Really ask some questions liberals.
Why did you’re God Al Gore…leave office with a little over 2 million dollars in the bank…and in 8 short years…flying all over the world…collecting all kinds of awards…while burning the lights in his filthy rich mansion…and is now worth over 110 million dollars?
Where did the money come from?
Why did Ted Kennedy fight so hard to keep wind power away from his family’s homestead?
The answer is because you’re politicians are laughing at you. They could care less about the environment. They are busy right now up at Capitol Hill…making back door rules to give their favorite donors special exemptions for the next 20 to 30 years…on carbon credits…because of the big payoffs they receive!
You don’t believe me? Well just go ahead and call me viscous names like usual and when the truth comes out…you will look back on this and say…WTF…he was correct.
Until BOTH of us get together…Liberals and Conservatives…and actually bury the hatchet and decide to work for short and long term solutions…the politicians keep in power…keep winning…and we are still held hostage to the middle east BS…that consumes our money & lives.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pmAs long as we are on the subject of energy; why don’t we put sails on ships?
Seriously. Most cargo ships could be retrofitted with sails to mitigate the amount of fuel we use moving crap across oceans. Even if it only results in a 5%, or even 1%, decrease in the fuel burned? It would be a great investment.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pmAww how cute, Depeche Mode wrote a song about the republic party:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2GaCnAiuvo
You’re wrong about everything!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:05 pmReality Check Says:
You’ve got it backwards. It’s the GOPers making back alley deals with the coal and oil barrons who finance their campaigns. GOPers like Bachmann, Boehner and Gingrich don’t believe in global warming. I’m paraphrasing BUT…
Didn’t Boehner say CO2 is produced by cow farts?
Didn’t Bachmann say Jesus saved the earth already? CO2 is a natural byproduct of nature?
Didn’t Gingrich say something about making coal GREEN?
May 6th, 2009 at 9:08 pmRC looks like no one answered your question, just shifted the blame to the moron republican party as usual.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:13 pmmoronic**
excuse the typo
May 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pmEven though my first instinct is to just call you a stupid troll, and move on, I’ll take a stab at it RC.
1. I’ve never heard anyone claim Al Gore is a god. Personally, I wish he had let someone else narrate that movie because he, as a “librul”, is a perfect target for Reichwhiners.
2. Ted Kennedy doesn’t want to mess up his view.
3. You’re probably right. Many politicians, regrettably, can be bought.
4. The GOP is fatally flawed and have moved so far to the right that they are no longer “conservative”. They are reckless radicals.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:18 pm#25 Explain to me how the GOP has moved right?
This should be interesting…..
May 6th, 2009 at 9:21 pm:|
I was looking at “The Night the Coal Canary Stopped Singing” but it sounded like a downer.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pmHow about this Lee Dorsey classic:
May 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Reality Check: to answer your questions.
Provide proof of how Former VP Gore earned his money. I’ve never heard of any illegal activity connected to Gore. I certainly hope you didn’t get your info. from Fake News. They’re reknowned for cropping videos and twisting information.
I don’t know why or if it’s true that Senator Kennedy refused windpower at his family’s homestead. Can you provide proof of this – I’ve never heard about this before.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:26 pmThree hundred million gallons of SLUDGE! You gotta love it!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pmRP2012:
Two words. “Preemptive war”.
And that doesn’t include the rabid nationalism, discrimination, xenophobia, and religious nuttery.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pmI meant to say that Fox News is known for cropping videos and twisting information.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pmThe two words are “Preventive War”.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pmThen there’s “Big John” by Jimmy Dean:
May 6th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Did you hear Bristol Palin saying her comment about abstinence was taken out of context, even though, the whole nation heard her say it? She’s just like her mother! As usual, she shifted the blame to the liberals for being ‘big meanies who took her words out of context’ when that is not what happened!
I remember when the Patriots of America held signs that read, “NO WAR FOR OIL” and you right wingers called us traitors! Now you ninnies want to work together? Your buddy RC obviously got a bee sting on his brain today. In fact, I think both of you did. Why were you two sitting so close to each other for this to happen?
May 6th, 2009 at 9:35 pmpete Says:
RP2012:
Two words. “Preemptive war”.
And that doesn’t include the rabid nationalism, discrimination, xenophobia, and religious nuttery.”
I knew something like this would be coming and with no condescension I have to say, you are absolutely wrong.
Those are not conservative principles let alone far right. Neo-conservatism is more of what you speak of, which is the current GOP mindset and leadership.
I am very far right, so far right that we probably agree on everything social, just not economically. Me = Austrian, you = Keynesian and there is nothing wrong with that. I just get very annoyed when I get lumped in with the hypocrisy and bureaucracy that is the GOP.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:36 pmKayInMaine,
What do I have to do with Bristol Palin and did she actually blame “Liberals”?
I never called anyone a traitor and I’m sure you have no idea what my stance on the Iraq war was and is. So like I just posted, don’t lump me and every other “Right winger” in with the GOP.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:39 pmexcellent! i’ll be downloading this into my phone right now!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:39 pmkay rambles on like the regional warring skank that she is. uck maine!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:41 pmMy personal favorite:
Then the coal company came with the world’s largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man.
And daddy won’t you take me back to Muhlenberg County
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay
Well, I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in asking
Mister Peabody’s coal train has hauled it away
John Prine Paradise
May 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pmThen there’s my favorite Coal mining (cave-in) song, it combines coal mines and….cannibalism: “Timothy:
Mmmmmm…tasteful…
May 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pmskank from maine, her mother’s a governor and you’re not!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:43 pmcoal is still the best fuel we’ve got. nobody can afford the liberal clean energy ala carte crap. conservatism makes it possible for average people to live in roomy, spacious homes and drive SUVs.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:45 pmThat’s why I put the conservative in quotation marks, RP2012. The GOP has moved so far to the right that they are no longer conservative. And yet, the reckless radicals have hijacked the title, “conservative”.
If one wants to get technical about it, I’m still a conservative. However, I refuse to be lumped in with the wackjobs who have hijacked the GOP and the title. The GOP stopped being conservative the second that Ronnie Raygun humped Fallwell’s leg, if not sooner.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:46 pm43. neoparody Says: coal is still the best fuel we’ve got. nobody can afford the liberal clean energy ala carte crap. conservatism makes it possible for average people to live in roomy, spacious homes and drive SUVs.
This is demonstrably false.
This is tantamount to claiming that we have to cut down old growth forests to keep producing paper, wood products, etc. There are alternatives, and have been for generations that the coal lobby (and timber lobby) has squelched.
Run along junior, before I spank you with facts and embarrass you in front of all these nice folks.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:49 pmneoparody Says: See, GOPers want us to believe we can’t afford clean energy. Cleaner energy sources means less money to keep the fat oil and coal barrons rich and happy.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pmhanshiro, with all the time you spend embarrassing yourself i don’t think you have anytime for me. you should be a goner by now.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:51 pmThe candy store paupers lie to the share holders
Theyre crossing their fingers they pay the truth makers
The balance sheet is breaking up the sky
So Im caught at the junction still waiting for medicine
The sweat of my brow keeps on feeding the engine
Hope the crumbs in my pocket can keep me for another night
And if the blue sky mining company wont come to my rescue
If the sugar refining company wont save me
Whos gonna save me?
But if I work all day at the blue sky mine
(therell be food on the table tonight)
Still I walk up and down on the blue sky mine
(therell be pay in your pocket tonight)
Midnight Oil Blue Sky Mine
This if fun….
May 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pm“is” sorry
May 6th, 2009 at 9:54 pmyeah, hombre, because there isn’t a large footprint created to dispose of all those lithium batteries needed to power those yuppie cars. you have to keep up with the road competition, if i buy a small yuppie car i risk being totaled by an SUV. that’s why i refuse to be a victim and i accept being the owner of a chevy suburban.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:54 pmpete,
By Dan Springer
FOXNews.com
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
May 6th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
47.neoparody Says: hanshiro, with all the time you spend embarrassing yourself i don’t think you have anytime for me. you should be a goner by now.
Certainly I can spare the time to further reveal your idiocy. Your blithering ignorance is like a labor saving device: It makes my job so much easier.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:56 pmlibs, let me ask you a question. i know it’s about status when you’re out there driving a car. do you think the commanding general of marine corps forces is going to be driving a muthaf uckin ford focus? f uck no. he is going to want a large vehicle like an extended cab or a hummer to reflect his three stars and o-9 pay.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pmanswer the muthaf uckin question.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:01 pmpete,
Here’s more:
http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2009/04/14/meeting-set-on-wind-projects-in-blues/
May 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
53.neoparody Says: libs, let me ask you a question. i know it’s about status when you’re out there driving a car.
Only to those conservatives who keep Enzyte in business.
do you think the commanding general of marine corps forces is going to be driving a muthaf uckin ford focus?
If he’s a ‘commanding general,’ what the hell does he need to prove? If the car runs well and gets good gas mileage, that makes him an intelligent commanding general, and I’d rather have that than an insecure bloated-image Patton-wannabe a$$hole weenie that needs the reinforcement. Such boys make mistakes that men don’t.
Besides, if he’s such a macho guy, he can get a real hummer any time he wants…
May 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pmpete Says:
….If one wants to get technical about it, I’m still a conservative. However, I refuse to be lumped in with the wackjobs who have hijacked the GOP and the title. The GOP stopped being conservative the second that Ronnie Raygun humped Fallwell’s leg, if not sooner.”
I’d bring it back to Teddy Roosevelt but all the same, Good point. I’d just be hesitant to say they moved right because classically right is the direction towards anarchism, I’d say an obscure move to the left. The whole big, imperialistic watchful government thing they like to do.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pmtim, you are taking these muthaf uckin libs to task.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pmneoparody Says: We need alternative energy sources now. We need green jobs now! Any other drivel I spew is insignificant.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pmI think that once environmentalists have to accept the consequences of their push for this massive shift to so-called “clean energy”, they’re gonna sing a different tune!
News stories like the ones I referenced are just the beginning!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pmoh shit hanshiro you nailed that one. holy shit.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:05 pmneoparody,
I just like to keep a good, honest debate going. It may help some information get through those thick skulls of theirs!
I had quite a time last night on the thread about “global warming.”
May 6th, 2009 at 10:06 pmtim, are you a fan of steven colbairt?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pmIs there a reason you addressed your comment to me, Timmeh? I’m aware of the concerns about bird safety and aesthetics relating to wind power and solar plants have some hurdles to cross as well.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:08 pmneoparody Says:
oh shit hanshiro you nailed that one. holy shit.
One never knows what to make of this fellow, but you did in fact nail that one hanshiro.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pmSo none of you really answered my post. I figured as much? One even posted they had never heard of Ted not wanting windmills around his family’s property? How freaking informed is this person…who writes post on a board…and has never taken the time to inform themselves on their leaders?
Another ask me about how Al Gore got his illegal money? I never said it was gotten illegal…I only said he made 108 million in the last 8 Years…while flying around the world…pushing his carbon credits? Attack…attack…attack.
Why not ask questions of you’re own leaders first before attacking someone who is just pointing out some of the problems within your own house? After all…you seem to love to point out our house’s flaws.
The point is…you’re party is not going to be consistent in it’s so called cap and trade. It is going to give some pretty evil people…exemptions from having to go green…only because they are being lobbied with a lot of money! You know it.
What are you going to do when people start dying…because they can’t heat their homes with coal? What are you going to do when some of your own family members start dying because we have regressed so far backwards…in energy production…that new items and medicine are no longer available? You are going to put sails on big metal ships? Does anybody understand the actual problems with this? Do you think it is as simple as putting up a sheet on a large stick? haha…I’m a retired sailor…who knows better.
I do agree with some of your ideas and I fully support hammering people and business that pollute this great planet…but you really need to get a grip and use ALL resources in making us energy independent. It will require short…medium…and long range plans…and I will repeat…until WE start working together…the politicians will hold us hostage…continue to laugh at us…and get real rich while pitting us against each other!
It’s really your choice?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:10 pmNow, back on topic – Coal.
Coal is actually one of the best fuel sources we have. Granted we need to use it with the cleanest technology we can!
Do you folks remember the guy in Wyoming, I think who is the governor who is really promoting the use of coal from his state. They have put in a pilot plant that proves the technology of turning it into extremely clean-burning “diesel.”
The problem is that the process is quite expensive. Where’s our new President when you need a few billion to get new technology off the ground, hmmmm?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pmpete,
You asked me to provide a link to my first comment.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:13 pmGo Mr. Reality! These folks (as do all of their persuasion) need some serious reality checks…
May 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pmNeocons, please list out all the healthy reasons to burn fossil fuels. Thanks pals.
Al Gore got illegal money? Wow neocons, Corporate American has STOLEN BILLIONS FROM AMERICANS AND THEY DON’T GIVE TWO SHIITES ABOUT THE GLOBE NOR YOUR BREATHING ABILITY, but you neocons are concerned about Gore making money? I thought you neocons drooled over millionnaires?
Rush Limbaugh will be getting another $400 million (a million for each pound of his weight and a polluter every time he opens his mouth). Where’s your outrage?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pmFox News Network is not a reliable source of information. Another thing neoparody, Tim is taking NO ONE to task. You both are just ignorant and are always trying to shift everyone’s focus OT and to yourselves.
Your garbage posts do not take away the coal industry’s attempt to sell us “clean coal” as a reality. The ridiculous coal ringtones just make it worse!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pmneoparody,
Well, I think he’s pretty funny, but I rarely watch comedy shows.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pmhormiga brava chavez,
I KNEW some numbskull would comment as you have. I get HAMMERED when I don’t provide sources and when I do you idiots stop reading after you see the word FOX!!!!
GMAFB! Read the article, will ya? Also read my follow-up source.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pmThe foreman’s name was John McCann
By God, he was a blamed mean man
Last week a premature blast went off
And a mile in the air went big Jim Goff.
And when next payday came around
Jim Goff a dollar short was found
When he asked, “What for?” came this reply
“You were docked for the time you were up in the sky.”
Drill Ye Tarriers Drill traditional
May 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pmSigh… Leave it to a troll to miss the point.
First off, RealityCheck, I did answer your questions. Second: I’m talking about high-tec, computer controlled, sailing systems that could easily be implemented to reduce fuel use; even if it’s a small savings.
If the sails won’t work on the desired course? Collapse them. But? I can’t think of a single reason that “free energy”, from the wind, should not be exploited whenever it’s feasible.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:19 pmlook, the process is always nasty. it’s like forging peace. you build more prisons to stow away the nations radical offenders. the guards put in the manpower and risk to make sure they don’t escape and if possible rehabilitate them. same goes with war. let the troops do the dirty work they volunteered several timezones away and let us enjoy life at home. we don’t need to see the process on television. keep it behind closed doors and enjoy the finished product and well be ok.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pmLook Horminga,
The use of Coal is a REALITY. Maybe if the greenie weenies hadn’t shut down efforts to use nuclear power decades ago we would have LESS burning of that evil coal!
Reality, reality, reality – I must accept and deal with reality… keep repeating this to yourself.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pmFox News as a resource? BAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh yeah, like there’s any functioning brain cells over there to rely on!
By the way, why is the polluters can’t spend the money now (budget for it) and then reap the benefits each year after that for cleaning up their act? Isn’t that what we all do with our own budgets? We put money aside (or we cut stuff out) to make a big purchase and then the following years we don’t have to spend the money…..and the new washer & dryer we bought is energy efficient and the electricity bill is much less (saving money!).
How come the CRY BABIES complain about this?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pmReality Check Says: Useless drivel.
Until you provide proof of what you’re spewing, you need to STFU! Fox aka Fake News, Rush, the GOP and rightwingnut radio jocks like Savage are not reliable sources of information.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pmKayInMaine Says:
Neocons, please list out all the healthy reasons to burn fossil fuels. Thanks pals. ”
1) Get to and from work
2) heat and cool my home
3) Keep my food fresh and free of bacteria
4) Light my home
5) I guess I could just say live in a civilized world.
Why don’t you practice what you preach and go live in the woods. You have proved to be very unintelligent.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pmNice going TP, why don’t you just hand the site over to the trolls.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pmKay,
Find something inaccurate or untrue in the Fox News article I quoted or just shut the h*ll up.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pmTimmy gets paid by energy companies to troll and then they question where Al Gore got his money. Not that it’s any of their business but they think only Republicans are allowed to make money.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pmThere are inventors right now waiting to implement their filter technology, but yet, the coal industry is saying, “Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, we don’t want to spend the money on filter technology! We don’t care if we get tax breaks in the future! Whaaaaaaaa! We don’t want to part with our money!”.
Can’t the CEO of these companies take a cut our of his or her millions in pay or company profit? I mean, really, what is the big deal for crying out loud!
Oh wait. George Bush laxed all the rules & regulations, SO NOW THE OIL INDUSTRY IS SPOILED!
Going to bed.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:24 pmdoodlebug!
How are they hanging today? Is your noodle stiff enough for a real debate?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pmpete Says:
Sigh… Leave it to a troll to miss the point.
First off, RealityCheck, I did answer your questions. Second: I’m talking about high-tec, computer controlled, sailing systems that could easily be implemented to reduce fuel use; even if it’s a small savings. ”
I saw that on Discovery, very cool.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pmI already told you, Timmeh, I was a aware of the concerns regarding Wind and solar power.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pmTimmmy Says:You’re the numbskull.
You have not provided one iota of proof that coal is CLEAN!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:25 pmYou have not provided one iota of proof on HOW Gore earns his money.
You haven’t done anything. You’re just another dumbfu)k troll hell bent on distraction.
FOX NEWS is a fake “news channel”. That’s all I had to see to not click on it.
Answer my questions. I’ll check your answers tomorrow. You’ve got homework! Now scram and get going!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pmKay,
Your ignorance is showing. Good riddence
May 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pmKay = close-minded…
nuff said
May 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
May 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pmKMAMF!
Really? Where? You mean to tell me you don’t have an answer as to why the coal companies can’t budget and put money aside out of their millions in profit to incorporate filter technology?
Wow. Idiots.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pmTIM = SARAH PALIN SUPPORTER. Nuff said.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pmAn electric car can’t do any of this?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pmElectricity can’t be used for any of the following according to the neck drooling coal-humping trolls:
1) Get to and from work
May 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pm2) heat and cool my home
3) Keep my food fresh and free of bacteria
4) Light my home
5) I guess I could just say live in a civilized world.
Here’s a question, Timmeh. Why shouldn’t the government subsidize roof-top solar panels and “two-way” meters?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:32 pmTimmy and Really Not Reality Check are so ignorant. You guys are like the Jehovah’s Witnesses that knock on the door at about 7 am on a Saturday morning. You’ve accomplished nothing here. You can not convert the sane to your insanity.
We need green jobs and alternative energy sources besides dirty coal! I’M STILL A BELIEVER!
YES WE CAN!
YES WE DID!
YES WE WILL!
Get over it trolls!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:33 pmKayInMaine Says:
1) Get to and from work
2) heat and cool my home
3) Keep my food fresh and free of bacteria
4) Light my home
5) I guess I could just say live in a civilized world.
Why don’t you practice what you preach and go live in the woods. You have proved to be very unintelligent.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
An electric car can’t do any of this?”
WOW! An electric car is 100,000 dollars and you still need a source to charge it.
You are brain dead! Finish Jr High.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pmuh, shayne, you’re not using your rollover minutes here, you should do away with the teeny acronyms.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pmWhen talking about global climate issues, the natural focal points are:
May 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
tim, i can’t say that shayne’s noodles are still enough for a debate, but i can say her nostrils are inflamed enough from being a full time crack hoochie mama whore.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:37 pmIt may surprise people to hear this but, I think we should invest in modern nuclear technology, especially Thorium Cycle Breeder Reactors. In theory, one could design a reactor that produces a tiny amount of dangerous, though short-lived, waste and a large quantity of waste that’s less radioactive than the ore which is mined.
The “hot” waste would be of a small enough volume to deal with and the “depleted” waste could be safely dumped in the same hole it came from.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pmwhat about the lithium batteries? how does the disposal process of those hot cots not leave a significant carbon footprint?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:39 pmwhat about president obama? he supports clean coal!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pmpete,
Well, I don’t have a problem with tax credits for solar. Tax credits can be an effective way to get people to adopt new tecnology.
two-way meters are another matter, however. They would give government the ability to CONTROL how I use energy. I will never allow that to happen. There is just no need at all for these devices in residential use.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:40 pmneoparody,
You are good! What these folks post here actually looks like a parody sometimes!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pmBTW. Who provides the most funds to anti-nuclear lobbyists? The coal industry!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pmThese Repukes were out to get Ted Kennedy by giving an exemption to the energy company that wanted to put wind turbines in the cape.
Of course so they could come back and say how liberals weren’t happy with wind either. This all happened while Bush was President and it smell like Rove.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pmCouldn’t agree more pete.^^^
May 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pmpete,
You might be a conservative after all! Don’t believe that clap-trap about the REpublican party moving to the right. This is the fallacy of the “mis-placed middle.”
May 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pmThe fact remains neoparody, timmy val and rp2012(you will lose): YOU HAVE NOTHING but distractions. Nothing to prove coal is clean.
You try to discredit Gore = YOU FAIL
You try to discredit Kennedy = YOU FAIL
You try to diss us liberals = YOU FAIL
You trolls support a failing, dying party and a dead ideology!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pmYour drivel is hilarious and sad.
RP2012 = HOPELESS!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pmdoodle,
Nothing like a good conspiracy, but I’ll accept the facts you present. I assume you’ve done your homework!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pmOh Timmeh! The two-way meters are what makes roof-top solar a viable option. Here’s how it works.
During the day, your empty house provides power to the grid and you get paid for that energy. During the night, you take energy from the grid and pay for it.
No one will use the two-way meters to oppress you.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:46 pmTimmehV the LIAR, still coming here SPEWING its crap.
Citing NEWS stories from FOX.
Pathetic
May 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pmhormiga brava chavez Says:
Reality Check Says: Useless drivel.
Until you provide proof of what you’re spewing, you need to STFU! Fox aka Fake News, Rush, the GOP and rightwingnut radio jocks like Savage are not reliable sources of information.
This is exactly the response I have come to expect around here. You don’t have the answers so you attack and name call. Go back and read all your post saying the vilest things.
Some of you only post to hate…and must get your jollies off on it? Oh…and if Fox news is so bad…how come it beats the stuffing out of all of the other networks combined? I know you will say I am lying…but the ratings are the proof.
At least on Fox…there is always an equal number of pros and cons representative…unlike MSNBC or CNN.
And really…aren’t you just a little embarrassed about MSNBC and it’s love affair with B.O.?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pmhormiga,
I’m not sure I was included in the assignment to prove coal is “clean.” Coal isn’t clean, we know that, but technology exists to use it in a cleaner fashion!
BTW, the United States already burns coal as cleanly as possible so where’s the beef?
There’s no need to demonize the coal industry, they are a viral industry in this nation. Of course we ought to transition to cleaner sources of energy, but it’s not righ to destroy what we have first!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:49 pmOf course we ought to transition to cleaner sources of energy, but it’s not righ to destroy what we have first!
What if what we have is destroying us?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pmpete,
Well, I wouldn’t have a problem if two-ways were used in that fashion, but you have to look at the other side of the equation – government control – and I don’t trust the government.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pmshayne pulls her arguments from a random drawer in bernie madoff’s office.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pmhormiga brava chavez,
You are a strange one. Who said coal is clean and why am I hopeless?
RP stands for Ron Paul not Republican if that’s what you are referencing.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pmah, can’t type.
Coal is a VITAL industry as is the power industry.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pmWayne,
How so? Our power industry, which includes the mining and burning of coal isn’t killing us.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pmIllinois has 9 nuclear plants. Unfortunately the storage facility at Yucca Mountain that was started in 1988 under Ronald Reagan was built on an active fault line with an acquifer right there. Something that should have been figured out 20 years ago. But now 20 years later spent rods are still stored unsafely at every nuclear plant which the communities were assured wouldn’t happen at the time. The energy companies are like little kids, you can’t believe anything they say.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pmRC,
I’m glad you mentioned the fair and balanced issue with regards to Fox News.
The libs don’t want to hear this, but a recent non-partisan study found that among the major networks only FOX was close to being balanced! In fact, it was found to be almost evenly balanced when reporting on different sides of the news!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm#119
Coal isn’t destroying us, it is sustaining our way of life until the free market develops an equally effective, cost efficient, clean fuel source.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pmdoodlebug,
Well, if there’s problems let’s hold people and the industry accountable, but most importantly let’s just fix the problems and continue to meet the vital energy needs of our country!
May 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pmI don’t care about what you say neoparody, RC, Timmy, RP2012 because what you spew is nonsense. You come on TP to distract. To peddle BS. You wingnuts think no one has the common sense to know better.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pmI can’t quite figure out what “government control” you’re afraid of, Timmeh. Unless you are treating the “government” and the “utility company” as the same entity?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pmKay, thanks for the Depeche Mode song! :)
May 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pmHey Random!
Your handle describes your thought process, no?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pmMay 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
RealityCheck Says:
Oh…and if Fox news is so bad…how come it beats the stuffing out of all of the other networks combined? I know you will say I am lying…but the ratings are the proof.
You know, for someone who’s been posting here a lot lately, I’m surprised that you are not taking into account the fact that Fox News Channel is offered for free on most cable systems, while CNN and MSNBC are often part of a premium package of sorts, and cost extra to get. The ratings comparison is one of apples to oranges, not apples to apples.
At least on Fox…there is always an equal number of pros and cons representative…unlike MSNBC or CNN.
The fallacy of that approach is that they present both sides as if they have equal weight. Actually, on Fox News Channel, I hear them denigrate and demean the liberal position on many issues. The truth of the matter is that one side is often misinformed or just out-and-out lying. And that side is often the right wing side of the “debate”. Newt Gingrich spouts lies all the time. (He said that Specter was now going to be “a Liberal Democrat.” That was a lie, and he knew it. The FNC host didn’t question it.)
And really…aren’t you just a little embarrassed about MSNBC and it’s love affair with B.O.?
May 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Are you not embarrassed by Fox News Channel’s love affair with Bush and Cheney?
Actually, I watch MSNBC (as if you couldn’t guess), and I find what they say about our new president refreshing and not always positive. Maybe you should try listening to them. Or do you have to pay extra to get MSNBC?
Gotta go. TDS is on.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pmwe could save the earth with collective voluntary measures. because the green energy stuff will be used to justify current consumption levels if consumption is indeed the problem. i’m all for freedom, but it’s the argument i have in handy for people who become wealthy in the greatest country god gave man: if you don’t want to pay more in taxes, if you don’t want to give more of your liberties to the government, then you damn sure better be making the world a better place on your own watch. power to the people means earn and give back.
ronald reagan i’m sure was generous with his money.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pmneoparody eat shit and die you impotent pansy.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pmpete,
No I’m referring to initiatives certain people now in power might put in place.
For example, it may be decided that in order to limit so-called “greenhouse gas emissions” everyone must not be allowed to set the temperature in their homes as they like. The temperatures would be limited to a range the government would approve.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pmThere is no talking to people this stupid.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pmDoodlebug Shayne Says:
neoparody eat shit and die you impotent pansy.”
haha, last resort eh doodlebug?
May 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pmif we could cut the size of the federal and state govts then we’ll have more money in our pockets to give to charity.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:04 pmpete,
It was a pleasure conversing, but I really need some sleep! good night.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pmeh, RP, i’d hardly call it a last resort. that’s shayne’s full course meal. she’s laces her meatloaf with coke, i’m sure.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:06 pmI didn’t see you piping up when neoparody started this near the top of the thread. But who asked you anyway.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:07 pmdoodle,
Your noodle got overheated again just like on the global warming thread!
You should quit while you are only behind by a mile instead of when we can no longer see you at all back there….
May 6th, 2009 at 11:07 pmTim, this isn’t your site, I don’t follow orders from you.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pmTake it to the tea party dumbass.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pmneo,
Doodle’s a woman??? Good God, I made reference to her stiff noodle!
May 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pmdoddle,
Don’t get your panties in a wad… it was only a suggestion to save you further embarrasment!
May 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pmCheck out the new greenwashing going on at the coal industry campaign (yes, the same people who brought you the singing lumps of coal last December).
http://www.americaspower.org/factuality
They are trying to dress up their filthy industry by “touring” coal locations and reporting on progress made in cleaning up coal. They are going on at least 6 stops (apparently) such as stop 1 where the industry is destroying land and mountaintops to enrich their executives. It is unbelievable that they think they can spin the horror show that this industry is.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pmsomeone’s radioactive brain is leaving a carbon footprint! buh bye shaynee!
May 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pmTim keeps linking to Fox News and and sites sponsored by energy companies and he’s worried about me being embarrassed. You can’t fix stupid.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pmfact is, No Hope, obama supports clean coal and will lobby for that as part of his clean energy plan.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:15 pmI apologize RP 2012 if you think I was calling you a rethuglican, but, I believe Ron Paul has a snow balls chance in hell of winning in 2012.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pmIt’s a brilliant strategy on Obama’s part — say you are for clean coal and get conservative business men and women on your side BUT since clean coal doesn’t exist, you don’t actually have to do anything.
He can be for this and against it at the same time!
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CLEAN COAL.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pmHey NoHopeWithoutChange,
Our President did say if we can put a man on the moon, then we can figure out a way to produce clean coal. I think it’s a possibility but the coal industry doesn’t seem interested in it because of the expense.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pm#
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neoparody Says:
eh, RP, i’d hardly call it a last resort. that’s shayne’s full course meal. she’s laces her meatloaf with coke, i’m sure.”
lol to be sure.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pmI have to agree that Fox is found to be almost evenly balanced when reporting on all different sides….of the right.
In fact, you can hear every possible side the right has an issue, just by tuning to Fox.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pmTim Vaculik Says:
RC,
I’m glad you mentioned the fair and balanced issue with regards to Fox News.
The libs don’t want to hear this, but a recent non-partisan study found that among the major networks only FOX was close to being balanced! In fact, it was found to be almost evenly balanced when reporting on different sides of the news!
______________
Sorry, Timmeh…
To date, Fox is THE ONLY “news outfit” that has defended tis behavior in court by claiming it had the right to make up whatever it wanted to and call it news.
Evenly balanced? Only in your and Rupert Murdoch’s dreams…
May 6th, 2009 at 11:37 pmActually, if one examines President Obama’s comments on coal, it would be more accurate to say that he supports cleaning up the coal industry. That’s not quite the same as “clean coal”.
May 6th, 2009 at 11:56 pmOT:
Sen. Baucus to single payer advocates: “We want police” –Single Payer Advocates Removed from Senate Hearing
And Baucus is in until 2014.
May 7th, 2009 at 12:14 am4 trolls in a room alone. Dull, dull, dull.
May 7th, 2009 at 12:20 amFact:
The #1 source of airborne radioactivity is from burned coal. Fact.
May 7th, 2009 at 12:32 amdid anyone do a google search for “blue mountain alliance”?
one hit, on page 3: http://www.google.com/search?q=blue+mountain+alliance&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&start=20&sa=N
nothing on page 4… but there are plenty for jeep and ostrich alliances………..
gotta wonder who by and why such an “alliance” is formed…
and who that jolly guy is… smells very fishy… and bogus…
g’nite.
May 7th, 2009 at 12:55 amcheck this out… found at democratic underground…
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5601562&mesg_id=5601709
the foxbots have twisted the message. again. imagine that…
May 7th, 2009 at 1:11 amConservativeForProgress Says:
They key is to manage them as the hard working men and women in coal producing states are trying to do with clean coal.
____________
Ya mean, like mountain top removal mining? Good Dog… that’s as bad as the hydraulic mining they did in California back in the 1870’s. That’s only been ILLEGAL for, oh, 140 years or so.
Clean coal… would that have anything to do w/ that incredibly nasty coal ash spill in Tennessee late last year, that released “5.4 million cubic yards, or enough to flood more than 3,000 acres one foot deep”?
Uh… could you explain just HOW coal is “clean”?
May 7th, 2009 at 1:30 amRealityCheck,
We do have a major problem in our political system. I’ve brought it up before and what we need are CLEAN MONEY campaigns for our politicians. I believe in lobbying but with NO CASH in hand to influence law. This is dividing America and they’re laughing all the way to the bank while we fight amongst ourselves! RealityCheck, I apologize for ripping on you in the past – you’ve shown a side I haven’t seen before. I’m sure that the regulars are going to have at me for saying this – oh well :(
Coal
Oil
Global warming
Insurance
Heath care and many more
All of these industries pump MASSIVE amounts of cash to OUR elected officials and it’s GOT to stop. I’ll admit that it’s been fun to slam these idiots in office for what they do but, we’re not CHANGING anything. We need to take to the streets to end private funding of our politicians NOT stupidly tea bagging our president calling him all the names in the book when he’s not the real problem.
PLEASE ALL TP users, READ THIS BOOK by Jack Lohman. This book has changed my view our entire political system:
Politicians – Owned and Operated by Corporate America
Here’s a link to where these political crooks get their money from. It’s NOT from us!
Link to moneyed politicians’ site – opensecrets.org
The Senator from Illinois said it finally, “The Banks OWN THE SENATE!” This is a wake up call. It’s time to take back OUR country. Let’s get off the computer and push for clean money campaigns in our states like Arizona and Wisconsin.
May 7th, 2009 at 1:47 amThis is just SO wrong.
Hilarious! But wrong… :-D
May 7th, 2009 at 2:31 amThis just in… Lou Dobbs is responsible for starting the Swine Flu.. c/o colbert.. that is all.
May 7th, 2009 at 2:57 amSorry O.T.
SIBEL EDMONDS: In Congress We Trust…Not
The former FBI translator and whistleblower suggests blackmail may be at the heart of Congressional refusal to bring accountability and oversight to its own members – such as both Hastert and Harman – in matters of espionage and national security
Exclusive to The BRAD BLOG…
Guest Editorial by Sibel Edmonds
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May 7th, 2009 at 4:56 amOops…
May 7th, 2009 at 4:59 amhttp://www.bradblog.com/?p=7117
“Clean coal” is an oxymoron. Like clean porn.
May 7th, 2009 at 5:30 amStill lying I see! A Toyota Prius is $100,000? Bah hahahahahaha! Oh gawd! Too funny! Bah hahahahahahahaha! Try starting @ $25,000!!!!! More each year are being purchased:
US Calendar Year Sales[53]
2000 5,562
2001 15,556
2002 20,119
2003 24,627
2004 53,991
2005 107,897
2006 106,971
2007 181,221
2008 158,884
And you know what, Imbecile? The more that are purchased the more the price will go down in the future.
I see you’ve been living in a coal mine over the last 8 years. Sad. Your head is full of soot!
May 7th, 2009 at 6:37 amwow, looks like the GOP had a leak and got their ignorance all over this thread last night
May 7th, 2009 at 7:35 amRP2012 is a Republican. He claims to be a Libertarian, but he doesn’t even know the Libertarian Party platform. Don’t let these right-wingers fool you. They are just ashamed to admit their responsibility for destroying our country by voting for Republicans. Ron Paul himself had to become a Republican just to get the Libertarians to vote for him.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:47 amThe coal companies themselves just admitted that they have not even started development of so-called “clean coal”. So far, their funding for “clean coal” has been limited to propaganda commercials telling everyone that they are developing “clean coal” technology.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:51 amThen stop voting for them.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:56 amhis is just SO wrong.
Hilarious! But wrong… :-D
May 7th, 2009 at 9:08 ampearl jewelry wholesale
Gemstone beads wholesale
rightwing-leftwing Says:
RealityCheck,
We do have a major problem in our political system. I’ve brought it up before and what we need are CLEAN MONEY campaigns for our politicians. I believe in lobbying but with NO CASH in hand to influence law. This is dividing America and they’re laughing all the way to the bank while we fight amongst ourselves! RealityCheck, I apologize for ripping on you in the past – you’ve shown a side I haven’t seen before. I’m sure that the regulars are going to have at me for saying this – oh well :(
Coal
Oil
Global warming
Insurance
Heath care and many more
All of these industries pump MASSIVE amounts of cash to OUR elected officials and it’s GOT to stop. I’ll admit that it’s been fun to slam these idiots in office for what they do but, we’re not CHANGING anything. We need to take to the streets to end private funding of our politicians NOT stupidly tea bagging our president calling him all the names in the book when he’s not the real problem.
PLEASE ALL TP users, READ THIS BOOK by Jack Lohman. This book has changed my view our entire political system:
Politicians – Owned and Operated by Corporate America
Here’s a link to where these political crooks get their money from. It’s NOT from us!
Link to moneyed politicians’ site – opensecrets.org
The Senator from Illinois said it finally, “The Banks OWN THE SENATE!” This is a wake up call. It’s time to take back OUR country. Let’s get off the computer and push for clean money campaigns in our states like Arizona and Wisconsin.
I am afraid that it is going to be a tremendously uphill battle if we can’t get over calling each other names to begin with? Referring to someone as a tea bagger is just crude and vile? Posters on the left don’t like it when someone takes shots at Obama…yet they have totally trashed President Bush and any other Republican…thinking it’s some kind of Mantra of the Left?
I came here and right off the bat…I was attacked because I stated I had come here to open a dialog with the leftest as a Conservative. I was referred to by the most gross and nasty names before I even had made my second post.
My mistake was fighting fire with fire? I fell into the same trap that keeps both of our viewpoints at a large divide that someday might lead to outright hostilities? Meanwhile all the Politicians are getting richer and staying in power…using our hate to springboard into the next election cycle…while making false promises to change things?
How to take the money out of politics? Go back to original intent and make these people work for the average person…because they are nothing more than an average person?
We must get rid of the career politician. We must start electing average people instead of voting for lawyers and Ivy League PrimaDonna’s who will always think they are better than us?
There are a lot of wise people out there who would most likely do a very good job…but would never run for office because of the way the press would treat them because they wouldn’t “fit the mold” of what “They” think is important?
All politics are local…so you young people need to start now…running for office…taking stands on issues…and showing the electorate that you don’t need to be a whore of the system to get elected. Don’t take money when elected? Make it a Mantra of you’re job. Stay clean…and don’t lose you’re virtue.
As long as sites like this only fuel hate…instead of opening dialogs…not one of us wins? We could be energy dependent in 2 years if we really wanted to? All it would take is a total commitment to merge short term policies with medium and long range plans…to do this.
Drill now while working full time developing actual non-oil dependent sources. Retool shut down factories…while taking millions of people off unemployment…and paying for their training as factory workers producing such products as Solar power and Wind power…etc…products…to be giving or sold at an affordable price to all consumers and homes? Now “That” would have been a good use of “Stimulus Funds” wouldn’t it? If we were going to go Trillions of dollars in depth…we should have really gotten something for it?
These factories could also be putting out Green Cars…within a few years…that could be moderately priced to replace our gas guzzlers? But hell…that would make too much sense? Why?
Because we can’t work together…and “they” know it!
by the way…I promise to read the book you referenced.
JMHO
May 7th, 2009 at 11:24 amAnd I thought that ringtones playing loudly in restaurants were already the height of obnoxious tackiness.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:27 amNo, Bush was already trash long before any of us heard of him.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:36 amDoes that mean you joined the Republican insurgency?
May 7th, 2009 at 11:39 amshoeless Says:
You…are among the problem I stated above. Cherry pick and nit pick all you want…but in the end…you are just acting like a troll…but only worse.
May 7th, 2009 at 11:42 amRealityCheck,
Thanks for your response. I was waiting for it and made a decision to not post to TP in a hatful manor anymore. Again, I apologize to you and anyone I’ve offended in the past with my stupid crap – I guess we’re all a little pissed off with the way things are going lately and need a release. I also should have said “Tea Parties” in my post however, I was referring to the hatful part of those “Tea Parties” when I wrote “Tea Baggers.”
When I do post comments from now on, I will post the links to the book and web site (below). Also, thanks for committing to reading the book. I have copied some pages from the book listing activist groups that work for Clean Money campaigns and I will make efforts to get involved with these groups to change MY state.
- It’s time to turn the computer off
- It’s time to turn the TV off
- It’s time to turn off the PS3, Nintendo or whatever
It’s time to get involved in our country again.
PLEASE ALL TP users, READ THIS BOOK by Jack Lohman. This book has changed my view our entire political system:
Politicians – Owned and Operated by Corporate America
Here’s a link to where these political crooks get their money from. It’s NOT from us! Look up your House and Senate representatives – you will be shocked.
Link to moneyed politicians’ site – opensecrets.org
May 7th, 2009 at 12:28 pmIt is people like you who destroyed our country. I have no desire to work with your type. We will take care of cleaning up your mess, just go away.
May 7th, 2009 at 1:27 pmShoeless,
You truly are delusional.
May 7th, 2009 at 1:47 pmRealityCheck Says:
You…are among the problem I stated above. Cherry pick and nit pick all you want…but in the end…you are just acting like a troll…but only worse.”
Shoeless has no sustainable arguments, hence all of his/her posts on this issue.
May 7th, 2009 at 1:51 pm185. Shoeless,
If the neocons don’t even clean up their own mess, what perogative do they have to clean up the messes of others? I’d be happy if the neocons had cleaned up their own mess:
Iraq
May 7th, 2009 at 1:53 pmAfghanistan
Economy
Torture
.
.
Ah ha ha! This coming from a “Libertarian” who doesn’t know anything about the Libertarian Party platform, and supports Republican Ron Paul, who ditched the Libertarian Party, for president.
May 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pmMapleStreet, these neocon Republicans can’t clean up their horrific messes. Einstein said, “You can’t slove a problem by using the same thinking which caused the problem.”
They just need to STFU and get out of the way.
May 7th, 2009 at 2:09 pmshoeless Says:
Ah ha ha! This coming from a “Libertarian” who doesn’t know anything about the Libertarian Party platform, and supports Republican Ron Paul, who ditched the Libertarian Party, for president.”
Funny, I wish you had your facts straight! Ron Paul has been a Republican Congressman for his entire career, He ran for president under the Libertarian ticket in 88.
Disagreeing with your party does not mean you don’t understand their platform.
How do you feel about Eugenics and Fascism Shoeless?
May 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pmSo, now you are admitting that you are a Republican. That’s good. It’s not healthy to lie to yourself. Now, apologize for voting for George W. Bush twice, and you will really feel better.
May 7th, 2009 at 2:46 pmShoeless,
you did not answer my question. Do I have to explain to you your parties platform, Or are you just to scared to answer?
May 7th, 2009 at 4:06 pmYour question is incoherent.
Now I know the RP in your name stands for Republican Putz.
Are you ready to apologize for voting for George W. bush, twice?
May 7th, 2009 at 4:12 pmWow, I am impressed by a couple of developments that show promise on this blog:
1. RealityCheck’s post at #179
2. Rightwing-leftwings response
After the fairly civil discussions of last night on this thread I realized that I have to do my part as well. I realized that if we are constantly at each other’s throat we are indeed falling into the trap set for us.
May 7th, 2009 at 7:54 pmTim Vaculik, Yep! I actually brought up the influence of corporations and special interests to the TP posts in the past. But, the posts keep appending and appending. When I read RealityChecks’ post, my jaw dropped! So, thanks to him (I think him), I’ve taken a look at how I respond.
Tim and all. I know this is a dead thread however, I took a geology course in 2003 and my teacher has a PhD in geology. He said that a volcano spews a lot of crap in the air and we are putting quite a bit of guilt on humanity by blaming ourselves for global warming. I don’t have any data on a volcanoes emissions versus human made emissions but, I’ll check.
I’m all for clean renewable energy and the teachers’ comments gave me pause. Just food for thought for those out there …..
P.S. In public, we’re usually on our best behavior and online venues allow us to be more “mean”. An interesting point I’ve come to realize lately.
May 7th, 2009 at 8:37 pmI think in spite of a couple of peoples attempt to demonize the end of the thread…real progress has been made and I hope in the future I also temper my arguments in response to attacks?!!?
May 7th, 2009 at 10:14 pmAgreed!
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May 11th, 2009 at 12:05 amsesli chat
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