Right-wing activist: Being gay is an ‘unhealthy’ lifestyle — like being obese.
Right-wing activist: Being gay is an ‘unhealthy’ lifestyle — like being obese.
The New Jersey Coalition to Preserve and Protect Marriage (NJCPPM) is one of the right-wing groups pushing to stop marriage equality efforts in the state. Earlier this week, the group spoke to reporters about “traditional values,” during which time a NJCPPM associate said that being gay is “very unhealthy” — like being obese:
Jim White with the Knights of Columbus is a NJCPPM associate. He says, “Never until now has anyone thought that marriage should be between the people of the same sex. Frankly, the government does not have the right to meddle with marriage.” He adds, “It’s also a well-know[n] fact that the homosexual lifestyle or homosexual practice is very unhealthy. Government should discourage it and not elevate it to a level by calling it marriage. In an age where we worry about people being overweight and going after them and the government interfering in that, what is the government doing promoting a lifestyle that is inherently unhealthy?“
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Being Republican is an ‘unhealthy’ lifestyle – like being teh stupid.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:07 pmI think I may organize the MCUUM (Michigan Coalition to Unpreserve and Unprotect Marriage).
This will be my statement:
It’s also a well-know fact that the heterosexual lifestyle or heterosexual practice is very unhealthy (rape, adultery, divorce). Government should discourage it and not elevate it to a level by calling it a union. In an age where we worry about people being overweight and going after them and the government interfering in that, what is the government doing promoting a lifestyle that is inherently unhealthy?“
May 8th, 2009 at 2:10 pmI can’t find the words to express my outrage. Have they no shame?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pmThis is just stupid. Like so many right wingers he goes off into his own personal fantasies of homosexual love making when ever he thinks about gay people. Being gay is not defined by the mechanics of sexual actions, but by the desire to associate romantically with members of the same sex. There is no reason why a monogamous, gay, married couple is in any way less healthy than a monogamous, hetro, married, couple.
Let’s ban college, the undergraduates are having sex out of wedlock.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pmFrankly, the government does not have the right to meddle with marriage.” He adds
So, is he willing to give up the over 1,400 rights and privileges granted to married couples by the government?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:13 pm“Frankly, the government does not have the right to meddle with marriage.”
Except that he wants the state to ban gays from marrying?
Sure, OK, whatever…
May 8th, 2009 at 2:14 pmNewsFlash: Laura Ingraham chides Meghan McCain for being very unhealthy.
/snarkety snarking snark
But really is it someone elses concern if one is overweight or gay?
No.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pmWell Jimbo, I imagine being filled and consumed with hate for anyone who differs than you in regards to skin color, ideology, religion, sexual preference and politics isn’t very healthy either and is much like insanity.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pmGovernment should discourage it and not elevate it to a level by calling it marriage.
Wait. Arent these the same folks who wailed and flailed about a big brother/Nanny state?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pmAnd just what are these as$holes doing to protect marriage?
Campaigning against infidelity, divorce?
No, they just don’t want other people to have the rights that they do.
Fcuk the Republicans
May 8th, 2009 at 2:18 pmThe American Taliban is doing its level best to take this country back to the 1950’s. Their images of America revolve around ‘Beaver Cleaver’ and ‘Father Knows Best’. Why do they feel the need to worry about who I am in love with? What makes it their business? Seems to me they spend way too much time worrying about my love life – probably to the detriment of their own. They must not like themselves very much.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pmFYI, the context for this argument from the right (religious and political) are from statistics that are completely dated time periods of the AIDS crisis in 80’s and early 90’s. It’s an example yet again of the use of misinformation to provide the illusion of rationality to bigotry. In developed nations, the margin of difference is small to nonexistent. There are contemporary studies that claim to “prove” this but come from such BS places like Family Research Institute. It’s fodder for politicians and bigoted activists like this.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pmNewsFlash: Laura Ingraham chides Meghan McCain for being very unhealthy.
/snarkety snarking snark
But really is it someone elses concern if one is overweight or gay?
No.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:20 pm“““““““““““““““““““““““““`
Hmmmm I wonder if Ingraham has the same concern for the that over bloated blimp Rush Limbaugh or Dennis Hastert?
“It’s also a well-know fact that the homosexual lifestyle or homosexual practice is very unhealthy.”
WTF? This is just evil and wrong how they’re trying to demonize homosexuality. As if heterosexual lifestyles are any healthier or better with all of the STDs, rape, incest, domestic violence, teen pregnancy, etc.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:21 pmStratrat, I think you are on to something in regard to the American Taliban and their feigned concern for all of us and their “Do as I say not as I do” mantra.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:22 pmYou know, we do worry about people being overweight. We try to emphasize a lifestyle of eating right and exercise. However, there are also people out there that would like you to buy their burgers, smoke their cigarettes, and drink their alcohol. There are also people out there that emphasize that being thin to the point of death is the way to succeed.
There are bound to be overweight people out there, but is it the government’s right to punish overweight people? They still have the rights of people who are normal in weight to marry.
If homosexuality is so unhealthy, how come the FDA or the CDC hasn’t told us about that?
Mr. White, citations plz kthx.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:23 pmTP – You have your quotes in the wrong place on this headline. It should not be “unhealthy” but instead “lifestyle”.
Being homosexual is not a choice or a “lifestyle”. Being homosexual is not likely something that many people would “choose”.
Instead, what conservatives are saying is to “pretend” to be heterosexual (DODT, for instance) and everything will be just fine …
May 8th, 2009 at 2:23 pmWhats next from the right? Abstinence is the healthiest choice for gay people? Hey I know lets just ban sex altogether. And to make sure guys like Rush doesn’t break the law we shall lop off his hands. ;)
May 8th, 2009 at 2:24 pmI would also qualify that there is unfortuntately an increased amount of suicides in homosexual-identified people due to a biased and ignorant public perception that this activist only adds fuel to. That and outright violence, denial of services, psychological effects of ostricization, the need to hide who we are. Yeah, these all can lower a life expectancy. I guess bigotry can do that.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pmdoesn’t = don’t…
May 8th, 2009 at 2:25 pmMaybe the Republicans should put a sign over their party affiliation that reads “gays, lesbians and anyone of lifestyle and/or color not of or with God/Rush need not apply”.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:26 pmYou know, if these crackpots want to be taken seriously by anyone besides their loyal choir, they need to come up with something other than stating that a load of gibberish is a “well-known fact”.
Why are we supposed to believe that a “gay lifestyle” is unhealthy? Is it because “teh gay” get AIDS? Is it because “teh gay” tend to get beaten up, killed, and tied to fences? We need a little more to go on than just trusting their word that it’s a “well-known fact”.
I suspect these rightwingers want us to picture gays as being promiscuous sex maniacs who hang around men’s rooms looking for as much anonymous buttsecks as they can. Yes — that kind of activity is a health risk. But so is heterosexual promiscuity. Furthermore, these aren’t the gays who are looking to get married.
I would think a group like this would WANT to promote monogamy and lifetime commitment. Besides, homosexuality will be around whether the government “discourages” it or not.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pmIf being gay is a choice (it isn’t), then at what point in his life did this “activist” CHOOSE to be straight?
And does that mean he is in denial of his natural desires?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:28 pm“In an age where we worry about people being overweight and going after them and the government interfering in that…”
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Did I miss something? Who’s “going after” obese people? How is the government “interfering”?
Is anybody denying the right of obese people to marry?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says:
Whats next from the right? Abstinence is the healthiest choice for gay people? Hey I know lets just ban sex altogether. And to make sure guys like Rush doesn’t break the law we shall lop off his hands. ;)
Abstinence works 100% of the time. But just ask Sarah Palin about what happens when it’s put up against a ride on a snowmobile on a frostbitten date night!
May 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pm“Frankly, the government does not have the right to meddle with marriage.”
Oh, you mean all the divorce laws are null and void?
And the government does have the right to say who can participate in a legal contract. Whether a religion wants to bless off on it is entirely up to them.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pmYou wanna protect traditional marriage? Enact the death penalty for spousal abuse.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pmIdiot.
Hmmmm I wonder if Ingraham has the same concern for the that over bloated blimp Rush Limbaugh or Dennis Hastert?
Well, of course, Ingraham lurvs her some hypocrites
May 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pmYou know, Jim White may be on to something. Being gay may indeed be an unhealthy lifestyle, but why stop there when there are so many other minorities to vilify?
For example, “being black” is an extremely unhealthy lifestyle choice. According to the CDC, African-Americans are more likely than whites to die of colorectal, prostate, lung, and stomach cancer, more likely to suffer stroke, and less likely to have health insurance or be vaccinated against childhood diseases.
We as a country should not be supporting such an unhealthy lifestyle choice, and I do hope Mr. White will work just as hard to discourage African-American marriage as he is working to discourage gay marriage.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pmBoss Limbaugh is gay and obese and a drug addict.
Electing him GOD of your party is a USDA Grade A endorsement of unhealthy lifestyles, Jim White!
May 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pm“Frankly, the government does not have the right to meddle with marriage.”
Oh Jeez. So neither do divorce lawyers.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:33 pmGood to hear Jim White sees not problem with Vitters, Foley or Craigs actions. What will be said when the public learns Justice Roberts marriage was fake and that Laura was paid to stay with George for 8 years in their fake marriage. What will be said about Connie Rice’s soulmate female partner. Look Sarah Palin let’s her teenage daughter sleep with her boyfriend in the Family home and then tries to keep the secret of her having a baby. Rush Limbaugh wants to get in Sarah’s pants and McCain looked at Sarah as a meal. Let’s not forget the Pastor who preached against gays while being one and using the church money for sex. Oh yes he asked for forgiveness and then did it again.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pmUncle Fester Lurks Says:
Stratrat, I think you are on to something in regard to the American Taliban and their feigned concern for all of us and their “Do as I say not as I do” mantra.
That is the defining philosophy of these folks: Do as I say. It’s the basic authoritarianism built into every one of them. Their lives are in shambles, but they believe they can direct mine? Um, no.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pmIgnorance is also unhealthy for a society. Perhaps they can take up that issue for a bit.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pmSame sex marriage, hetro marriage, abortion are religious issues, do we really need laws to govern by personal religious beliefs? Separation of church and state, remember ? These religious nuts just can’t stand to stay out of other people’s lives.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pmLimbaugh is as unhealthy as Ted Haggard! Oh Noes!!
May 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pmMarriage has become an agreement share then split the material things you own once you get tired of each other…why should the heterosexuals be the only ones to go thru this traumatic experience.
Share the pain!
/snark
May 8th, 2009 at 2:37 pm“Frankly, the government does not have the right to meddle with marriage.”
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May 8th, 2009 at 2:37 pmYou mean like deciding who can and who can’t do it?
It’s unhealthy to diminish your short life in preparation for a fictional “afterlife”, especially when it requires you to be an ignorant bigot.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pmI’m more concerned that the people who are self-identifying as being Republican are showing a marked tendency towards mental illness. The delusions alone are troubling.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pmDid she just call me fat??? Oooh hell no!!!
May 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pmWhat IS it with this “lifestyle” slur these idiots throw around?
From what I’ve seen, gay people work, sleep, eat… and even have sex now and then – just like everyone else. How is that a “lifestyle?”
Being gay isn’t some narrow-minded worldview which biases their every thought and action – you know, like being a bigot is.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pmvery much on-topic:
Look up the documentary Outrage, which opens today. It’s about closeted gay politicians who have pushed or advocated policies that have hurt the gay community.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pmIs there some secret right-wing contest, lately, as to who can make the most offensive public statement, with the winner being whoever garners the most comments on liberal blogs?
These folks are off-the-hook!
May 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pmAnd still no Darlyy….In Rio again? Too busy blasting baby deer in Indiana?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pmJust tell them that Gay marriages reduce the number of abortions. Let’s see what they make about it.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pmPeople determine marriage not law. I have known gay people who have lived together being faithful to one another for 50 years. I have known “traditional” marriages that are shams, so who is the better example.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pmWe really need to hope limbaugh is sterile, along with the other right wing fanatics.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pmDarryl, perhaps, is wandering the yellow brick road [gold] into the Emerald city [greenbacks] looking for GOD [Wizard of Odd]
May 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pmI wish all these heterosexual people would stop giving birth to homosexuals and lesbians, right Dick?
Government should outlaw these people from having sex.
Yeh, more /snarcasm
May 8th, 2009 at 2:49 pmtexaslady Says:
People determine marriage not law.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
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In a philosophical sense, perhaps. But law has to determine what constitutes marriage as it relates to taxation, property ownership, custody of children, dependant benefits, and other marriage-related issues.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:49 pm“It’s also a well-know[n] fact that the homosexual lifestyle or homosexual practice is very unhealthy.”
A well-known fact? What an idiot White is. Inventing “facts”, a Repub lifestyle, means you are dishonest or a liar. Now that’s a lifestyle we all should discourage. Instead, Repubs promote it.
May 8th, 2009 at 2:53 pmwhoah, i know A ***LOT*** of obsese republicans…is he gonna hafta apologize to RUSH™ too?
May 8th, 2009 at 2:57 pmUh guys…..heterosexual sex spreads AIDS, hepatitis, herpes, syphillis, gonorrhea, …………
May 8th, 2009 at 2:59 pmLuis Chapulin M Says
May 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Just tell them that Gay marriages reduce the number of abortions. Let’s see what they make about it.
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Now, now — that kind of logic would create an endless loop of incongruence in their brain and their heads would explode. It would be like Robby the Robot being ordered to kill someone (my apologies to anyone who has never seen “Forbidden Planet”).
May 8th, 2009 at 2:59 pmApparently, NJCPPM believes fat people shouldn’t marry.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:02 pmLet the asshats keep talking. It’s very helpful … for the cause of equality.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:10 pmCustody, ownership of property can all be determined without legality of marriage. As for marriage protecting children, ever tried collecting child support through the courts, doesn’t work. Sorry, but marriage is a religious issue not a legal one. Time to change and update our laws.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:14 pmPeople who worry too much about other people’s sexuality have, deep inside themselves, the same sexual desire they claim to opose to.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pmThey are also very bad in bed!
OK, you’re right. Therefore, any heterosexual couple who have a homosexual child are guilty of the worst kind of child abuse, let’s call it “homosexualizing”. These couples should be rounded up, locked up, sterilized, and have their marriage annulled.
Like the Al Capone case, at least this way we’d get Dick Cheney behind bars where he belongs.
/snark off (except the last sentence)
May 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pmIt appears that being an alter boy is pretty risky.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pmWell since science is not something religous people understand I can see that they think homosexuality is a learned behavior not genetic. Guess I see so many talented people who are homosexual and think they lucked out in the gene department.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:25 pmSo are they going to put on ballot measures to keep obese people from marrying? And what other “unhealthy” lifestyles will they want to target? And who gets to decide? For the party of small government, they sure do seem to want to make a lot of decisions for us.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:28 pmWell, when the repub group went from being a listening tour to a teaching tour, don’t believe enlightment is on their agenda. They also need to look at the polls showing they have an audience of 21% now.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pmit’s amazing how these right wing assclowns twist their rhetoric to suit their needs. at one time they said gay marriage is a state’s issue. now that the states are making decisions they don’t agree with they’re claiming it’s nobody’s issue?
May 8th, 2009 at 3:40 pmI’m sure obese people are allowed to marry. I was at Wal-Mart the other day and……
May 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pmYet oddly enough, “teh gays” in my town are in much better shape than the republicans.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pmWell known fact in repub language is ” my opinion “.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:46 pmThe Repubigot Party strikes again!
May 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pmWhat he’s REALLY saying, apparently is that we shouldn’t allow fat people to marry.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:47 pmAnd how much to do you want to wager that this bafoon Jim White is a constituent of the Dishonorable E. Scott Garrett, the misrepresentative of NJ’s CD05.
Blue Jersey is one of my normal stops in the morning with my coffee (not Morning Joe).
May 8th, 2009 at 3:51 pmWell I guess in the 1800s when women were dropping like flies from childbirth the government should have been promoting homosexuality.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:54 pmWhy is it that these morons who always claim to want less government want the government in other peoples bedrooms?
May 8th, 2009 at 3:56 pmOr, “some people say.”
May 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pmI just wanna say that I am gay and I feel FABULOUS
May 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pmSo they’re going to outlaw obesity, cigarettes and drinking too much alcohol right because otherwise how can you justify that marriage is too risky.
May 8th, 2009 at 3:59 pmi see a lot more gay men at the gym than i do fatass republiscums. the red states of alabama and mississippi have the highest obesity rate in the country which leads me to believe conservatism is bad for your health
May 8th, 2009 at 4:00 pmSo Republicans don’t want obese people to get married?
Does Rush Limbaugh know about this?
May 8th, 2009 at 4:00 pmCome on Jim White, why dont you and Larry Craig(alias wideguy) find side by side stalls in some romantic out of the way mens room and live happily ever after.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:01 pmThat’s their voting base though, fat, smoking, drunk repubs from the south
May 8th, 2009 at 4:02 pmMy, that’s very libertarian of you.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pm@84
May 8th, 2009 at 4:23 pmActually, “liberal” literally means someone who stands for individual liberties, so it’s very liberal of them. :)
@85
Liberal used to mean what libertarian now means. Libertarian = classical liberal.
Nowadays “liberal” = socialist for some reason.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pmSurely not as unhealthy as meat-eating.
May 8th, 2009 at 4:32 pmThe New Jersey Coalition to Preserve and Protect Marriage
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What kind of people would even want to join these extremists?
Preserve and Protect Marriage, from WHAT??
How does ‘the gay’ interfere with this guy’s marriage?
Why don’t these people fight to ‘Preserve and Protect Women Forced to Live in Group Homes Because Their Husbands Kick Their Asses Everyday’ . .
May 8th, 2009 at 4:36 pmLibertarian used to be about individual liberties now it is about tax whining…
May 8th, 2009 at 4:41 pmHow does ‘the gay’ interfere with this guy’s marriage?
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This well continue to be the unanswered question. It just is it seems. No one knows how but they like to say it over and over. Just don’t ask them if divorce is a threat to marriage, they wish not to fight on that front…
May 8th, 2009 at 4:46 pmIf being gay is an ‘unhealthy’ lifestyle — like being obese, then does that mean that Rush Limbaugh is – like – gay?
May 8th, 2009 at 4:57 pmThe drums are beating. The Republikans/Konservatives are emulating their heroes in 1930s Germany, replacing THE JEWS with THE GAYS as their target of choice. Time to get out while I’m still alive, I think . . .
May 8th, 2009 at 5:32 pmSo Rush Limbaugh is GAY wow I guess that’s why he divorced his wives they wouldn’t use their mouths for anything else but talking… I believe Rush said that about someone else…
May 8th, 2009 at 5:35 pmJim White,
You are an ignorant bigot.
May 8th, 2009 at 7:10 pmno, no, no #49, Luis…you can’t tell the neanderthal jackass’s that gay marriage keeps abortion down because Pat Robertson says if gay marriage legislation passes, then it’s the end of baby making altogether..as in people won’t make babies because we will have too many gays, with no one left to make the babies.
Does this sound like the logic of your 4 year old nephew trying to explain a dualist belief, as in, pointy rocks are there so animals can scratch their itchy place, or toads croak so you won’t step on them…
May 8th, 2009 at 7:51 pmThese are the same idiots who argued with the same absurd seriousness that women weren’t capable of voting or taking care of themselves and that blacks weren’t quite human.
Why does *snyone* still pay any attention to this absurd bullcrap — except for the fact that these statements echo their own bigotry…?
May 8th, 2009 at 11:35 pmI hate to think what this means for Limbaugh. I’m sure the gay community doesn’t want him…
May 9th, 2009 at 2:37 amDoes Mr. White happen to be aware that at least one research study found evidence strongly suggesting that Sigmund Freud was right — that outward expressions of strong dislike may be a cover for unacknowledged feelings of attraction?
How else would one explain the fact that the experimental group for the study in question — a group composed of self-admitted homophobic straight males — were found to show statistically higher levels of sexual arousal in response to homoerotic imagery than the control group of more tolerant straight males did?
Can you say “reaction formation”? It would explain a lot. Reaction formation would quite easily provide the person in question with a handy, ready-made excuse with which s/he can excuse and justify their own rumination on — or obsession over — the subject of homosexuality while still blocking recognition of their own homosexual inclinations (whether mild or strong) from their conscious awareness.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:05 amCuriously enough, Republican base is made of 99% of obese middle aged white persons.
May 9th, 2009 at 10:51 amConservatism is a disease of the mind.
May 9th, 2009 at 11:41 amWhy is it unhealthy for you, White? Because it makes you go, “ick”?
Oh, and I love this: he doesn’t think the government should meddle in marriage yet he has no problem with them meddling in controlling how people live their lives.
Remind me again that the rightwingers just detest the government having more control.
May 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pmLooks as though every American is gay now.lol.maybe the fire in cali,the floods n all r just the beginning of the end like soddom.Get a life,maybe the men shld be nimble enuf 2 do it 4 themselves.Country of perverts.
May 9th, 2009 at 6:48 pmdominicgrey
Your STUPID is strong. So tell us how is being a bone ignorant moronic bigot working out for ya? Those decent people shunning you in case they might get some of your stupid on them? Yeah they should.
May 9th, 2009 at 7:11 pmlol.eugene did i hit a sore spot?u definitely r one of em.lol
May 9th, 2009 at 7:25 pmIf social conservatives had their way, being gay would be extremely unhealthy. It would get you fired from your job, evicted from your apartment, and physically beaten up on the streets.
May 9th, 2009 at 8:17 pmI don’t agree with everything the man says but he is right about one thing. Our government does NOT have the right to change the definition of marriage, between a man and a woman. For Gods sakes, all over the world for thousands of years this is one tradition we have shared with each other. Some things need to be left ALONE.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:14 amThank you !
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