The Nazi’s created propaganda in WWII to scare the opposition and to rally their supporters.

I don’t think releasing OR not releasing the pictures will change a thing with THEM. This is all about US in the USA.

Explain.

You’re really that dense? I fear an explanation would only serve to further confuse you, if you cannot reason why by yourself.

But here goes: if they know there are pictures in existence that we are refusing to release, they can propagandize that fact into an assertion that greatly overblows what is actually contained in the photos, and there is no way to rebut that assertion, without the evidence in hand.

See how simple? Why didn’t you see it?

Your partisan goggles all steamed up, with fake outrage?

Pro-life, yet they love war. Compassionate, yet they embrace torture.

It appears they have let the “bad guys” subvert their decent American morals.

Lying to the American public OTOH weakens us here in our own country.

Explain.

It’s called lack of trust. And by your own people no less. So instead of fighting one war, you’re now fighting two.

Baloney. Hiding the pictures, when their existence is known does more harm.

Well of course, bank robbers are in favor of bank robberies, but they hate security cameras.

The Man Who Knew Too Much? A Convenient Suicide in a Libyan Prison
JURIST Guest Columnist Benjamin Davis of the University of Toledo College of Law says the claimed “suicide” in a Libyan prison of al-Qaeda operative Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi is too convenient for too many people who have besmirched American honor in a perversion of rule of law that came from panic and improvisation…..
http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2009/05/man-who-knew-too-much-convenient.php

Little noted thusfar by the newspapers of record in the United States, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, the al-Qaeda operative tortured for the United States by the Egyptian secret police, died in a Libyan prison this past weekend of what has been called a “suicide.”

For those who only vaguely remember al-Libi’s name, al-Libi is the al-Qaeda person picked up at an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan and extraordinarily rendered to Egypt to be tortured at the United States behest. Al-Libi is the one reported to have linked al-Qaeda to Saddam Hussein in a false confession that was the result of this torture that Saddam Hussein was training al-Qaeda in bomb making, poisons, and deadly gases. President Bush used this “evidence” in a speech on October 7, 2002 in Cincinnati in his push to get Congressional approval of the resolution authorizing the President to go to war in Iraq. Al-Libi later disavowed that “evidence,” but by then we were in Iraq. When the al-Libi torture was revealed, the comment was made that the people at the highest levels of the U.S. government (Condi Rice and Dick Cheney) did not doublecheck this “evidence” but took it at face value. Why? Because, this false confession was consistent with their vision of the world.
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But youve never done anything to stop it and you never will.

Well, that’s not true. I vote, and I don’t buy from companies that use illegal labor practices.

You are the biggest evil that the world has ever known and you will be judged upon it.

Seriously? We’re worse than the government that murdered 6 million people just because of their religion (not including the other 4 million they just didn’t like)? Or the one that murdered 20+ million because they dared to disagree with their leader?

Wow. That sucks for us then.

You cannot deny that your country is a failed nation!

I’m pretty sure our immigration rates – both legal and illegal – pretty much discounts this. 233 years and still going strong. Personally, I’m more afraid of an earthquake than I am the US Constitution being overthrown.

The world will be better off without you.

But where would the Middle East get all its money if we’re not around to buy all their oil? Or China, if we stop buying all their stuff?

Well, I guess Canada could take our place, but eh. It’s too cold for me to want to move there. :D

By LARRY MARGASAK – 8 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House majority leader reluctantly agreed Tuesday that congressional hearings should investigate Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s assertion that she wasn’t informed, more than six years ago, that harsh interrogation methods were used on an al-Qaida leader.

Rep. Steny Hoyer, D-Md., called Republican challenges to Pelosi’s assertion a diversion from the real question of whether the Bush administration tortured terrorist suspects. Nonetheless, he acknowledged the controversy should be resolved.

Democrats will hold a series of hearings on Justice Department memos released last month that justified rough tactics against detainees, including waterboarding — simulated drowning — and sleep deprivation.

While Democrats want the hearings to focus on what they call torture, Republicans have tried to turn the issue to their advantage by complaining that Pelosi and other Democrats knew of the tactics but didn’t protest. Pelosi was briefed in 2002 while on the House Intelligence Committee.

Hoyer, asked at a news conference whether Democrats were inviting political problems for themselves by holding hearings, said, “I think the facts need to get out.

“I think the Republicans are simply trying to distract the American public with who knew what when. My response to that is, look, the issue is not what was said or what was known; the question and focus ought to be on what was done.”

But he added that the controversy over “what was said and when it was said, who said it … is probably what ought to be on the record as well.”

Hoyer also was asked whether he believes Pelosi’s support has been undermined among Democrats.

“No, I don’t,” he said.

A Senate Judiciary subcommittee holds the first hearing on the interrogation policy on Wednesday, but has scheduled testimony unrelated to the Pelosi matter.

A CIA document made public last week shows that Pelosi received a briefing in September 2002 on the tactics used on Abu Zubaydah, an al-Qaida leader and one of three prisoners subjected to waterboarding. Pelosi said she was told the agency was discussing its legal right to use the tactic in the future.

“We were not — I repeat — were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used,” said Pelosi, D-Calif.

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Whats funny is Nancy Pelosi, quite the most horrid person besides Bush and Cheney
Approved of the waterboarding.

Jane Harman, who is democrat who tried to get Israeli groups to give money to Pelosi, her rival so that Harman could become head of the House Intelligence agency.

Harman months later after receiving the same briefing as Pelosi. Said “No WAY”
And personally wrote a letter asking if the President was involved. Pelosi would not attach her name to it.

LMAO, if you dont think that all of your govt. is involved in this torture. Pelosi certainly was.
Then let all of the memos out on intelligence on the issues and let the PEOPLE decide.

Selectively releasing a few memos to say Bush was bad is like groupthink here just cherrypicking stories for college freshman to mind control them into the “groupthink”

If you want to know the truth about the USA, dont selectively release memos. Let is all come out!
Then you will realize how horrible the USA is and why it should die a much deserved death. As it will. And should and how raping of Latin Americans and INdia/asia is not tolerable to feed your fat obese faces.

You are all complicite in this scam, like all Nazi guards. Everyone of you, every single American should stand before the court of the world and explain how you let this go on!
I doubt you will want that. A nation of cowards and lazy tards. The world will be better off without you

Well, what about those tortured and released ?

Won’t they return home and tell of there experience at the hands of American torturers?

My impression, thus far, is that they tortured people to get false confessions to justify an illegal invasion that they planned before 9/11.

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I totally agree – and even more than that. These people attempted and are continuing to attempt to make their torture legal. The pictures need to be released. The people need to know who knew what and when they knew it. And we need to hear what the tortured and the torturers have to say. Just think, if McCain had stolen another election these creeps may have started going after us. Or maybe part of the motivation was to terrify and silence us.

And I’m pretty pissed at the elected Democrats who keep standing off to the side murmuring “How do we deal with this?”

Deal with it as the moral failure it has been. Stand up and say “hell no, we won’t torture anymore. We were scared and made stupid decisions.” Now is the time to own up to it, bring in the sunshine, and then move on.

If you had a family member that had been tortured, which situation would make you more willing to want to attack and kill the torturers?

A. The captors’ government continued the torturing.

B. The captors’ government denounced the torturing, released images showing the torture, and announced they were ending the practice.

I think most of us know the answer.

The CIA, USAID, the National Endowment for Democracy, The International Republican Institute, the Ford Foundation among others, have all, in one way or another, contributed to Torture Inc.

I find it sad that ‘we’ as a country aren’t more aware of ‘our’ own history in regards to torture and how it has been used, by proxy or otherwise to subjugate populations that were opposed to our corporatist policies and/or the policies of regimes backed by our govt.