Rove: Ending Torture Gives Terrorists ‘A Tool To Make It More Attractive To Recruit People’
Rove: Ending Torture Gives Terrorists ‘A Tool To Make It More Attractive To Recruit People’
As conservatives continue to rally around torture, Karl Rove last night praised Dick Cheney for his “reasoned, thoughtful series of observations” about how President Obama has made the U.S. less safe. He also conjectured that ending the practice of torture will provide al Qaeda with a great “tool” to help them recruit new terrorists:
ROVE: Taking, for example, the memoranda about the enhanced interrogation techniques and making them public has been a value to our enemy. It has served, frankly, I think, as a recruiting tool. They can now take these memoranda and go to prospective, you know, recruits and say, This is the worst that the enemy, the United States, would ever do to you, and they’ve even forsworn these things. We can help you, prepare you to deal with these things, but even the enemy is so weak they’re not going to use these techniques on you. And it’s given them a tool to make it more attractive to recruit people, and you know, this kind of thing is harmful to us over the long haul.
Watch it:
It is torture itself — not its cessation — that serves as a recruiting tool for new terrorists. Experts from FBI special agent Jack Cloonan to torture victim Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) to former Army JAG Major General Thomas Romig all agree that Bush and Rove’s “enhanced interrogation” program recruited terrorists who have killed thousands of Americans. Indeed, former military interrogator Matthew Alexander cited Bush’s interrogation program as the most effective means to recruiting insurgents in Iraq who were battling Americans every day:
The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don’t count American soldiers as Americans.
To read ThinkProgress’s extensive report, Why Bush’s “Enhanced Interrogation” Program Failed, click here.
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May 12th, 2009 at 3:59 pmStill a far cry from their best recruitment tool:Bush
May 12th, 2009 at 4:01 pmSo, let’s see if I got this right.
The terrorism that we fear the most is the suicidal terrorist who isn’t afraid to die. Who isn’t afraid of strapping 20 sticks of dynamite onto themselves and blow themselves up in a crowded mall… who isn’t afraid of piloting an airplane into a building… who isn’t afraid to push the button on a suitcase dirty bomb… those are the terrorist we fear. The one’s who don’t care if they live or die, but only that they carry out their mission.
And these self-same terrorist, the one’s who are willing to die for their cause, are now going to be more willing to die, because they won’t be tortured?
Um… wait a sec….
May 12th, 2009 at 4:02 pmOops I meant Rove — I was channeling Limbaugh at the time. Doh!
May 12th, 2009 at 4:03 pmNoMoreBush Says:
Oops I meant Rove — I was channeling Limbaugh at the time. Doh!
May 12th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Ick…
May 12th, 2009 at 4:04 pmAnd of course they could be KILLED! Just not once they’ve been captured and already taken out of commission.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pmWATERBOARD ROVE!
May 12th, 2009 at 4:05 pmI beleive everything Rove says (/snark)
May 12th, 2009 at 4:06 pmI hate to tell you this … but what america does to captured radical islamic terrorists is a non-issue for recruitment. These men are willing to strap a bomb to their chests and blow themselves up for their cause. There IS no greater sacrifice than that.
The threat of extreme torture is not going to be a deterrant to people who are THAT dedicated to their cause.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pmI think my head will now explode…
May 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pmIck is right — for some strange reason I felt fat and sweaty and had a craving for prescription drugs, not to mention outsized and irrational feelings of grandeur while simultaneously feeling dumb as a box of rocks.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:10 pmyea, the terrists are so relieved… now they know that if the body bomb fails to detonate and tear their bodies to shreds, at least they won’t be tortured if/when captured… whew.
there is no logic in fright-wing bizarro world…
May 12th, 2009 at 4:11 pmBefor 2002/2003 we didnt waterboard so it wasnt a tool then? But since we did and now that we have stopped, it is a tool? What am I missing here?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:11 pmah, yes, raynman gets it too…
May 12th, 2009 at 4:12 pmOK. So Gitmo and Abu Ghraib don’t lead to them hating us.
But Rove seems to forget the militant fundamentalist mindset (which I experienced in my youth in fundamentalist churches).
A big part of the cohesiveness is from the belief that the outside was out to get you. Torture plays right into their hands.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:14 pmRemember how the pictures from Abu Graib “lost the war”? It should be painfully obvious that we’ve done a whole more to recruit terrorists than torture—heinous as torture is. The world knows it.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pmand vasagi… good to have company…
May 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pmjust the fact that cheney feels safe enough to leave his bunker so frequently since Pres. Obama’s inauguration just proves that the country is indeed safer.
How can someone who had the worst terrorist attack in the US happen on his watch, and the mastermind is still at large, even after 266 water boarding sessions, question this administration is baffling to say the least.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pmA RECRUITING TOOL?! This is some of the most ridiculous BS. Terrorists who strap bombs to their bodies and blow people up are not worried about being tortured.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:16 pmAmerican soldiers are definitely American. Karl Rove is not.
Enjoy prison, Karl.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:16 pm20. hormiga brava chavez:
Terrorists who strap bombs to their bodies and blow people up are not worried about being tortured.
If they were, it might make them a little more careful to make sure they’d be killed instead of caught.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:19 pmAnd how can Rove say that terrorists will think this is the worst that the enemy can do if they’re captured when Obama has stopped allowing the torture of detainees? It just makes no sense.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pmMr. Rove, you are sadly mistaken. The worst our american fighting forces will do to the enemy in combat is kill them. If they are captured then we will follow the same traditions of Washington, Grant, Eisenhower and the like. We will adhere to the Geneva Conventions.
To think that we have to be so afraid of an ideology that we abandon ours is weak minded.
Where’s the emails Karl?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pmRove is, “you know,” laughable.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:20 pmLater Rove added, “War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength. Freedom is Slavery. And, um, . . . oh, yeah, Up is Down. I think that about covers it. “
May 12th, 2009 at 4:23 pmSo Rove is an authority on what is attractive to a terrorist?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:23 pmLet’s write the terrorists a memo saying that they can’t recruit anymore people because we will torture them if captured. Once five lawyers approve the memo, we’ll send it to Pres. Obama and Biden for approval. Then, we’ll have the House and Senate Republicans approve the memo in private under strict National Security rules to cover any issues after the fact.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:23 pmWhy is the Pillsbury Doughboy (buoy?) still in front of the cameras? Fat Boy, SFTU!
Thank you, carry on.
PEACE
May 12th, 2009 at 4:25 pmAny thinking person knows that the fact that we DO torture has been one of the greatest recruiting tools the terrorists have, since that practice has been to the “hate America” mindset as gasoline is to a fire.
And here comes Rove with his Orwellian “opposite” logic, hoping there’s somebody besides the kool-aid drinking choir who will buy it. His kind of marketing just isn’t selling anymore.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:26 pmAlso, “Work will make you free.”
May 12th, 2009 at 4:26 pmI’m frankly sick to death of hearing what Cheney or Rush or Hannity or Limbaugh or any of these other idiots have to say to justify torture. The bottom line is this: they are all amoral sociopaths who, like con men, pretend they are interested in “protecting Americans” while doing everything, in reality, that destroys us and what this country ever stood for.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:27 pmDoesn’t anyone have a firecracker to stick up this Fat Frogs Butt?
Or is that area strickly Jeff Gannons speciality area?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:30 pmUh, Karl?
Mind tell us why Suicide Bombers and people who consider martyring themselves is the highest honor imaginable would care about capture?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:33 pmI’m so sick and tired of all this bullshit. I know why Obama is not responding, but i begin to wish that he would.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:33 pmBy Karl’s logic, the fact that the US indulged in torture for the past 6 years means they have been so terrified that they haven’t indulged in one terrorist activity in that time.
I will grant that no one has strapped a bomb to themselves and visited Union Station but that just means they haven’t done it in the US. The rest of the world hasn’t been so lucky. Especially our new ‘protectorate’.
Obviously Karl doesn’t even understand his own fear meme about jihad.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pmWould someone please volunteer to write me a memo outlining strict guidelines for me as I attach a cage of starving rats to Rove’s face?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:34 pmThanks in advance, RUC
Well waterboarding DID save American lives, unfortunately, the world does not have less of you fat obese polluters and rapists
May 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pmRove admits it is torture..no surprise here.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pmshorter right wing:
“I’m scared!!!! Torture Somebody!!!”
May 12th, 2009 at 4:35 pmOh Noes, GOD wants to torture Halliburton
May 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pmIf crap came out of his mouth, he’d call it chocolate. The torture was the recruiting tool, turd blossom.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:36 pmSo, GOD, is it? Why didnt they torture those furners at the flight school in Fla. instead of ignoring what agents were telling their superiors?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:37 pmAll these jerks chaney, rove, hannity are all cowards draft dogers in there time. We should round up these little prick cowards and send them to iraq to really show us how to save and defend us.These kind of guys always found dead pn Nam with a bullet in back of there heads running away like the cowards they are.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pmKarl Rove = domestic terrorist
May 12th, 2009 at 4:38 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c
May 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pmRove is just feeding his minions with Vitamin FEAR!!! The reptilian brains thrive on fear, fear, fear!!
May 12th, 2009 at 4:40 pmAAAARRRGGG!!!
Heres why Roves logic is wrong.
Does anyone think for one second that torture, or not, was the reason Rove didnt go to Vietnam was because of torture?
Heck no. He didnt want to get his behind shot for his country.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:40 pmonly pussies support torture
real Americans know America is strong enough to defeat terrorists without becoming terrorists
pity that right wingers are such pansy little cowards
May 12th, 2009 at 4:45 pmI imagine Squealer, the manipulative pig with the skipping motions and the whisking tail, when I read Rove.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:46 pmI thought god was hitting the road as of last night? What gives and why are gods such needy children what with the endless demands for attention and all?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pmCmon Karl, these people blow themselves up for virgins in the next life….
Virgins, Karl, Virgins!!
May 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pmGOD, cant you just plug that vision into my head?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:49 pmWow god! what a great link. Some guy from 2007, who is a comic that, no one heard of, who made a movie that no one saw, and no one cares.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:50 pmNot so subtler Rove:
“Brown people will move in next door, kidnap your children and borrow your lawnmower without asking”//.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pmdidn’t god threaten suicide last night?
must be too much of a pussy to pull that off too
May 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pmTubby McTreason Rove: Ending Torture Gives Terrorists ‘A Tool To Make It More Attractive To Recruit People’. Blah, blah, blah. It’s nauseating to hear this criminal and slab of pork barking on the media when his ass belongs in prison. We have prisoners in prison who have been wrongly convicted and selective prosecution cases like Don Siegelman and Paul Minor who have been prosecuted with Rove’s fingerprints on the crime. Yet, Rove is freely polluting the airwaves with crapola.
It’s time for Conyers and House Judiciary Committee to not allow Rove to be above the law come June’s hearing with Rove.
May 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pmlouder DOG:
Woof!! WOOFWOOFARF! YAP!!YAP!YIP!YAP!
May 12th, 2009 at 4:53 pmYou would think Rove would shut up and keep his head down after that disgraceful administration he particpated in… buttttttt noooooooo, he and Dastardly Dick can’t stop spewing out the piehole. I do have to recognize that GW left office and seems to want to stay out of the limelight so far, apparently GW has better sense that Rove/Cheney. I’m wondering if Rove/Cheney might be feeling a little uneasy about the torture thing,leary of reprecussions for that dispicable behavior?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:53 pmpussies think torture works because it would work on THEM
May 12th, 2009 at 4:53 pmVasagi Says:
I hate to tell you this … but what america does to captured radical islamic terrorists is a non-issue for recruitment.
And you know this how????? You asshats on the right side just are soo smart, aren’t you? You lost two wars, ballooned the deficit, tore up the constitution, pissed off the entire planet, made no progress in the war on everything, etc…
If you ‘patriots’ were so smart, why does everything you touch turn to shit?
May 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pmAnd it’s given them a tool to make it more attractive to recruit people, and you know, this kind of thing is harmful to us over the long haul. -=Karal=-
And bombing the crap out of an entire country wont…
May 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pmRantingTommy Says:
didn’t god threaten suicide last night?
must be too much of a pussy to pull that off too
Actually I was baiting people into thinking that so could teach you all the concept of God’s Debris which I introduced in the following post, if you didnt learn any concepts. Thats not my fault, that is the fault of the American educational system.
I mean you get indoctrinated at youth, that you have the right to pillage and abuse and pay substandard labor to child slaves so you can get your new sneakers.
What they dont teach you, is just how terrible you are. How youve raped Latin America, how you abuse child labor in Asia. All so you are all fat and obese and can keep getting cheap stuff while you continue on your quest to not work and really not move very much and eat alot.
You are indoctrinated that the world OWES you something when in reality. You owe the world something for your nation that has raped and polluted it.
Sure, you all get fired up at thinkprogress over cherrypicked stories designed to fire you up. Thats not thinkprogress, thats GROUPTHINK. Like sheep, you read the latest cherrypicked quote, the latest cherrypicked story. You dont think, you groupthink thats why you come here.
And if someone dares try and teach you an alternate point of view or educate you. You go ballistic. It interferes with your simple pinhole of reality that groupthink allows you.
Sad Americans, but, ultimately will be your downfall, spending bill that each dollar spent, 50 cents of it is borrowed.
Medicare, social security, raided for decades will go insolvent. Too many old people. Too many lazy young workers who are allergic to work.
The cancer that is the USA will eat itself along with everyone in it
May 12th, 2009 at 5:02 pmthat’s a lot of words to use just to admit that you were too much of a pussy to go through with it, god
May 12th, 2009 at 5:03 pmGod: You’re pathetic. Probably the most multi-layered kind of pathetic I’ve seen in a long time.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pmo, and i come here to ridicule fools like you, god, you ignorant coward
May 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pmRUCeriousMaggot! Says:
Would someone please volunteer to write me a memo outlining strict guidelines for me as I attach a cage of starving rats to Rove’s face?
May 12th, 2009 at 5:11 pmThanks in advance, RUC
The rats must not be starved for more then 5 days or it would be cruel and unussual punishment(for the rats).please provide mr. rove with a neck brace, we dont want him getting whip lash. 183 times in one month is no enough.
Good luck with that.
Realness Says:
God: You’re pathetic. Probably the most multi-layered kind of pathetic I’ve seen in a long time.
Oh great, another ad-hominem attack. Seems that is the norm at groupthink.org here. Me cannot say nothing but insult b/c repugs are bad. Me who fat and stupid get free stuff for no work is good!
Think about it dude, you didnt and no one EVER addresses points that I or anyone else makes. They attack the person rather the substance that the person is arguing.
By arguing and putting down the person rather than substance, thats the main characteristic of a groupthink sheeple. You dont ALLOW yourself to debate.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:11 pmYou just ad-hominem attack, which is what you classicly just did.
Why not address issues of corporate raping of children, or your countries raping of Latin America and most others in the world?
Why just attack some anonymous GOD? Why not like put your 2 cents in on how much the USA sucks ass?
I think I hurt God’s feelings. And God used the word dude. I’m enjoying this.
ps- I engage with people who are worth engaging in discussion. As is easy to see for anyone with standard human intelligence, people disagree and debate on this blog all of the time. Please read something, DUDE. anything.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:16 pmWhy just attack some anonymous GOD? Why not like put your 2 cents in on how much the USA sucks ass?
The right side is falling backward and it is good fun to watch. I read your words – all of them. You don’t make enough sense and your points are juvenile – so why bother with the debate? Do you argue when the fly is buzzing around your lunch? No you smack it down because it doesn’t deserve any better. You, frankly are less relevant than the fly.
Maybe Redstate or Malkins blog would be better for you. They make no sense there all the time. You would fit right in…
May 12th, 2009 at 5:20 pmHappily IGNORANT
My GOD you are stupid. TORTURE gives them the best recruiting tool we could possibly give them. Morons like YOU are as usual the useful idiots carrying terrorists water. Whether you do this because you are so abjectly stupid or you just LIKE you radical rightwing terrorists cousins I dont know and I dont care. Just join up with Ben Laden and get it over with. He already has a pin up poster of Bush in his cave and gives thanks to Allah for him every night. So just bite the bullet and join him. You KNOW you want to
May 12th, 2009 at 5:21 pmBrothaCOWARDLYmoron
You are stupid and nothing you do here will make your sad, pathetic, lonely and dismal life any better. Just go cry yourself to sleep and STFU
May 12th, 2009 at 5:23 pmAll of the chickenhawk torture mongers are cowards who never served in the military. Dick Cheney- five deferments,
May 12th, 2009 at 5:24 pmW Bush- went AWOL from the national guard,
KKK Rove-spoiled his pants at the thought of the draft
Hannity-still has dirty pants from fear of serving
Rush-got out on a cyst on his fat ass
75% of the GOP never served in the military.
Think Progress’ trolls always gets me thinking about sociopathology on the internet. If it wasn’t so annoying to adult conversation, it would be way more fascinating.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:26 pmgod bores me. That isn’t any sort of attack, it is just a fact. god seeks attention and only attention. When the black Irish doctor thing didn’t work out the morphing began….
May 12th, 2009 at 5:26 pmBrothaMORON you are too stupid to teach a kid to tie their shoes. You arent going to alleviate the misery of your pathetic life her. No one is ever going to love you, respect you, or want to be in your putrid presence. Go away you are pathetic
May 12th, 2009 at 5:27 pmOk, so I am a right wing nut, an islamic terrorist, an eco-terrorist, an advocate for non-exploitation of child labor, an advocate for limiting the USA from raping other countries?
What am I?
Of course, I could just be like you all *said in britney spears accent*
You guys are just dicks! Gets your cocks out and rock out whoohooo!
While you rape entire countries, take over Afghanistan, force the ruin of Pakistan. Have Indonesian kids make your nikes.
You wonder why the USA is imploding? Dont you see it? Dont you get it? Its b/c none of you actually work!
You are not kings on thrones, you are filth and so is your country
May 12th, 2009 at 5:27 pmLet me get this straight. Karl Rove is now saying that the bush administration was torturing people, not to get information, but as a deterent to scare people away from signing up with al Qaeda.
I guess he thought moving those goal posts would help their case, but this makes things even worse for them. If this ever goes the The Hague, these guys are screwed.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:27 pmYou are not kings on thrones, you are filth and so is your country
Then why bother with us? Why stay where you are unwanted and associate with us ‘filthy’ patriots? What’s your plan? Why are you here, and more to the point, why aren’t you leaving?
May 12th, 2009 at 5:30 pmBrothamoron
What you are is a sad, lonely, pathetic fool who needs attention so bad that you will do anything for it. Any kind of attention even negative attention. You KNOW you are too stupid to have an actual conversation so you are a troll. You preach you rant you are ignorant you provoke ANYTHING to make yourself feel a bit better for being paid attention to. For just a moment it takes your mind off of how pathetic and lonly you are. How no one likes you or respects you in your real life and how they NEVER WILL. You are pitiful. Go away and try to find some self respect somewhere
May 12th, 2009 at 5:30 pmGod Says:
Ok, so I am a right wing nut, an islamic terrorist, an eco-terrorist, an advocate for non-exploitation of child labor, an advocate for limiting the USA from raping other countries?
What am I?
You’re that crazy guy who won’t get off the group home’s computer to let anyone else check their email.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:31 pm#
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republicans hate facts Says:
God Says:
Ok, so I am a right wing nut, an islamic terrorist, an eco-terrorist, an advocate for non-exploitation of child labor, an advocate for limiting the USA from raping other countries?
What am I?
You are brothabill off his/her VERY NECESSARY MEDS…
Republicans.hates.facts
You were saying the EXACT same thing a week ago, want me to cutnpaste what you were saying about the USA?
May 12th, 2009 at 5:31 pmAll of a sudden youve got a patriotic streak in you, next you’ll be waterboarding me I am sure. Only if Groupthink decides it though
Quite amusing and ironic that the biggest GOP stooge of all time would be using the word “TOOL” so freely ……..
May 12th, 2009 at 5:33 pmShoeless-
will it ever get to the Hague?? The U.S. has had its way with international law for so long now. When I think of the Hague I think of an archaic sense of justice that just doesn’t fit with the new rules that the U.S. has had an active hand in starting. But it is early in a Democratic President’s term, with a heavy recession, etc. I’ll try to remain optimistic. The image of Rove in handcuffs is a nice one to hold onto.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pmRealness Says:
You’re that crazy guy who won’t get off the group home’s computer to let anyone else check their email.
And uggh, your like a total dick, yeah, you are and like uggh, your just a total dick I can only insult and not reason. Umm, yeah you are like a total dick I have surmised (not sure of the word surmised)
But like yeah. I totally know like you are totally a dick b/c like, umm, well yeah just a dick
That of course is parody of how stupid most of your insults are and how you fail to address the crimes that the USA commits on most of the world’s countries
May 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pmI’m sorry I only talk to God in the form of a burning bush. If it was good enough for Moses…
May 12th, 2009 at 5:36 pmUm, no- Rove, you are the most useless, anti-American tool. The more we torture people, the more they & the world hate the U.S. The less you torture, the more people respect your country. Understand yet?? I thought not. Because Rove, you anti-Geneva Convention, pro-torture jerk/idiot/buffoon – you still can’t understand that when the U.S. breaks all conventions, it allows other countries to do the same. How completely stupid can you be? Tool? The best description of Rove ever.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:37 pmBoring. And flagged.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:46 pmI think the Islamist Terrorists should be worried…but not about Torture.
Obama is going to Egypt soon…and will address the Islamic World. He will attempt to drive a wedge between the Terrorists and the Overwhelming majority of Muslims who want Peace with Justice.
I’m hoping Obama can articulate and new vision ,and a new beginning for America in the world.
This will reverse some of the damage done by Bush’s policies of Preemption, Non negotiation, Deceit ,and Torture.
Most of the Victims of Islamic Terrorism have been Muslims.
If Muslims feel they are getting Justice…they will most likely work with Us for Peace.
The Ones who can Really Defeat Islamic Terrorism are the Muslims themselves. I think Obama Knows it.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:50 pmF**k borthabryll cream
Flagged
WOW, I just realized I got a boner from doing that. Any of you fags want to get on webcam and circlejerk to flagging brothabill? Cmon, you know we are all homos? Lets do it!
May 12th, 2009 at 5:51 pmand now a homophobic sockpuppet?
May 12th, 2009 at 5:53 pmMymoon@#67…Thanks! Now I can get to it…!
May 12th, 2009 at 5:58 pmHey God of ignorance…didn’t anyone inform you that there is NO GOD?
Therefore you do not exist, and why would we waste time on someone who does not exist?
Plus, God’s grammar and typing skills are very un-god like.
Phuck off God.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:58 pm#
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Buckie Boy Says:
Hey God of ignorance…didn’t anyone inform you that there is NO GOD?
Therefore you do not exist, and why would we waste time on someone who does not exist?
Plus, God’s grammar and typing skills are very un-god like.
Phuck off God.
Y^ea no Sh*t!
It’s like he didnt even go through our k-12 indoctrination program? What a loser!
Although, sometimes, in the dead of night, I have to admit. I dress up like a football player and ask myself “where did it all come from?”
Then I wake up from my dream and masturbate my dog. Red rocket red rocket!
May 12th, 2009 at 6:03 pmHey dogs need love too and so do we all, what time do we all want to hook up on webcam?
Rove should be Waterboarded. THE IDIOTS ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR ILLEGAL ACTIONS! Give It Up Rove! You are STUPID AND DESERVE A PRISON TERM.
May 12th, 2009 at 6:22 pmEnemy soldiers are less likely to surrender and more likely to fight to the end if they think they’ll be tortured when captured.
Remember all of the Iraqi soldiers who gave up easily in the first Gulf war?
Rove has no military experience nor business being on our public-owned airwaves.
- Tom
May 12th, 2009 at 6:38 pm.
Dear Karl Rove,
Blow me.
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May 12th, 2009 at 7:31 pmHey Rove! As soon as the first bomb was dropped on March 17, 2003….it became the best recruiting tool for the terrorists. Get it, as*wipe?
May 12th, 2009 at 8:35 pmHey, Hassan, want to become an islamic terrorist? USA doesn’t torture anymore. You’re lucky. Here, your vest filled with dynamite. Now, try to reach the american’s cantine in their encampment before you’re being shoot.
Yeah, I see how lifting torture could stop suicide terrorists.
May 12th, 2009 at 9:20 pmKarl Rove himself is a recruiting tool for the religious fundamentalist terrorists, both overseas (who rammed airplanes into buildings on 9/11, killing thousands of innocent people) and those here at home out to ram their hardcore right-wing religion down the throats of everyone else.
May 12th, 2009 at 9:41 pmWhy did Cheney say Bush “basically’ signed off on the torture program?
May 12th, 2009 at 10:03 pmkarl Rove is a recruting tool.
He lives in ‘reverse’ world. It keeps him safe and happy.
May 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pm.
Dearest Karl,
… And under the auspice of UN Security Agreements, Bush’s illegal invasion of a sovereign Nation that never posed a threat to America, had no WMD’s, and no ties to al-CIA-duh slowed them down a whole lot?
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May 12th, 2009 at 10:14 pm.
R E M E M B E R:
Under the Bush years, worldwide terrorism rose.
U.S. Figures Show Sharp Global Rise In Terrorism
State Dept. Will Not Put Data in Report
By Susan B. Glasser
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 27, 2005
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html
Iraq 101: The Iraq Effect – The War in Iraq and Its Impact on the War on Terrorism -
By Peter Bergen and Paul Cruickshank
Research fellows at the Center on Law and Security at the NYU School of Law. Bergen is also a senior fellow at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/03/iraq-101-iraq-effect-war-iraq-and-its-impact-war-terrorism-pg-1
And today, TELLING…
http://president.globalincidentmap.com/
Nuff said!
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May 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pm#19 Shellly, you’re just too logical…
May 13th, 2009 at 1:32 amthis just in… Rush limbaugh is fomenting racism on the radio.
May 13th, 2009 at 1:54 amIf Rove would have served his country earlier in life, he could have fought first hand. Eye to eye with those terrorists he enabled by invading Iraq and wildly spending our country’s defense assests.
Rove, why don’t you speak with congress under oath?
May 13th, 2009 at 2:26 am