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	<title>Comments on: Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura volunteers to waterboard Cheney.</title>
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		<title>By: gtinformed</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/12/ventura-cheney-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-5642515</link>
		<dc:creator>gtinformed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wow, i didn&#039;t think there was that much kool aid in the world. What a bunch of flaming retards.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wow, i didn&#8217;t think there was that much kool aid in the world. What a bunch of flaming retards.</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5642515', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Quizmos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quizmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing on the video supplied here indicstes that Ventura made any of the statements you claim in this post. Did you have another piece of video you intended? I do note that dispite the lack of video evidence to upport your claim, there are many replys that simply assume the truth of Think Progress&#039;s report. 
While it is nice to have the trust and confidence of your readers, none-the-less, professional journalism requires that you back your claims with reliable sources. The source you rely on in your piece is simply not adequate in supporting the claim you make in the written part of the post. In the video supplied, Ventura never makes the statements you have aasigned him. 
I come to TP in search of journalism, this post is mere sensationalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing on the video supplied here indicstes that Ventura made any of the statements you claim in this post. Did you have another piece of video you intended? I do note that dispite the lack of video evidence to upport your claim, there are many replys that simply assume the truth of Think Progress&#8217;s report.<br />
While it is nice to have the trust and confidence of your readers, none-the-less, professional journalism requires that you back your claims with reliable sources. The source you rely on in your piece is simply not adequate in supporting the claim you make in the written part of the post. In the video supplied, Ventura never makes the statements you have aasigned him.<br />
I come to TP in search of journalism, this post is mere sensationalism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5641842', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: a0d7fzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>a0d7fzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheney&#039;s heart will rust</description>
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		<title>By: smidget</title>
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		<dc:creator>smidget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 14:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who support and/or condone torture are disgusting, pathetic excuses for human beings.

I have zero respect for anyone that cowardly and evil.  I hope they suffer dramatically before they meet their ultimate end. It will be well-deserved.  That may sound extreme, and I&#039;m sure it is.  But I don&#039;t apologize for it.  I&#039;m tired of sharing my air with &quot;people&quot; like that.  Mosquitos are more valuable than these basards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who support and/or condone torture are disgusting, pathetic excuses for human beings.</p>
<p>I have zero respect for anyone that cowardly and evil.  I hope they suffer dramatically before they meet their ultimate end. It will be well-deserved.  That may sound extreme, and I&#8217;m sure it is.  But I don&#8217;t apologize for it.  I&#8217;m tired of sharing my air with &#8220;people&#8221; like that.  Mosquitos are more valuable than these basards.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5640306', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: aljr1947</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/12/ventura-cheney-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-5640229</link>
		<dc:creator>aljr1947</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Jesse is too busy to handle the &quot;board&quot;, I&#039;ll be glad to stand in for him.  By the way, once a SEAL always a SEAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jesse is too busy to handle the &#8220;board&#8221;, I&#8217;ll be glad to stand in for him.  By the way, once a SEAL always a SEAL.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5640229', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SlappytheMoron is back. Doing the only thing he ever does begging us to pity him. He is such a sad ignorant pathetic piece of human debris it is the only thing he cares about getting normal humans to pity him. No doubt he is pitiful. A sad, stupid, pathetic shell of a thing. No self resect, no brain, no decency. Just dropping by from his sad existence hoping for just a little pity here and there if he begs enough. Trying to answer the eternal question. How sad and pathetic can a troll be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SlappytheMoron is back. Doing the only thing he ever does begging us to pity him. He is such a sad ignorant pathetic piece of human debris it is the only thing he cares about getting normal humans to pity him. No doubt he is pitiful. A sad, stupid, pathetic shell of a thing. No self resect, no brain, no decency. Just dropping by from his sad existence hoping for just a little pity here and there if he begs enough. Trying to answer the eternal question. How sad and pathetic can a troll be?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5640135', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 06:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ConservativeForProgress Says: 

So that they would not end up in enemy hands and be used for training as to how to withstand our strict guidelines and controls.
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

OH MY GOD. Please tell me you arent stupid enough to believe this and you are just joking because you KNOW you cante tell the truth. You are a liar and a fool and a punkass troll but please you cant be THAT stupid. If the CIA cant keep tapes in THEIR posession out of enemy hands they need to disband not to mention everyone KNOWS what torture is knowing HOW you are going to be tortured does NOTHING to help you withstand it. I just cant believe what a brainwashed moron you are.</description>
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<p>So that they would not end up in enemy hands and be used for training as to how to withstand our strict guidelines and controls.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>OH MY GOD. Please tell me you arent stupid enough to believe this and you are just joking because you KNOW you cante tell the truth. You are a liar and a fool and a punkass troll but please you cant be THAT stupid. If the CIA cant keep tapes in THEIR posession out of enemy hands they need to disband not to mention everyone KNOWS what torture is knowing HOW you are going to be tortured does NOTHING to help you withstand it. I just cant believe what a brainwashed moron you are.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5640132', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WAYNEBRO</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAYNEBRO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you want about Jesse Ventura but if you take the time to &quot;LISTEN&quot; to what he says, you&#039;ll find that he&#039;s a smart man, a good man and a man who served his country with honor and integrity and he still does, whether you agree with everything he says or not, whether you want to mock his wrestling career or not. He&#039;s a good man and the country could use 1000 more like him. 

If we had more like him, more &quot;STAND UP&quot; sort of men, then the likes of Bush and Cheney would have never gotten close to the White House, unless it was on a guided tour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you want about Jesse Ventura but if you take the time to &#8220;LISTEN&#8221; to what he says, you&#8217;ll find that he&#8217;s a smart man, a good man and a man who served his country with honor and integrity and he still does, whether you agree with everything he says or not, whether you want to mock his wrestling career or not. He&#8217;s a good man and the country could use 1000 more like him. </p>
<p>If we had more like him, more &#8220;STAND UP&#8221; sort of men, then the likes of Bush and Cheney would have never gotten close to the White House, unless it was on a guided tour.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639916', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ralph the wonder locust Says: 

Did our friend go to resume slapping his bastinado?

May 12th, 2009 at 7:59 pm   Recommend (0) &#124;   Report Abuse &lt;/em&gt;

Ewww, sounds DIRTY.</description>
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<p>Did our friend go to resume slapping his bastinado?</p>
<p>May 12th, 2009 at 7:59 pm   Recommend (0) |   Report Abuse </em></p>
<p>Ewww, sounds DIRTY.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639860', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 01:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;SlappyBastinado Says: 

Evil.......Examples of the Black Legend are said to be found in the exaggeratedly negative portrayals of the Inquisition in both historiography and popular culture, and the villains and storylines of modern fiction and film. Your whole world is in your mind.

May 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pm   Recommend (0) &#124;   Report Abuse&lt;/em&gt; 

Ironic coming from a faithful Foxaid drunkard.

You know? Being an inhabitant from the &quot;Old Europe&quot; allows me to know a little more history beyond 1776 and the USA borders than you. That, and not being a flaming egocentric ignorant like you.

Yours, and not mine, it&#039;s the typical mentality of an Inquisitor (btw, some of the most rabid prosecutors were from Northern Europe, from the very same places that later would become the craddle of protestantism).

For your enlightment, read the following, a manual for inquisitors, about witches and &quot;enhanced interrogation&quot; methods. It was written by the not-so-brown guys named  Heinrich Kramer and Jacob Sprenger, a German and a Swiss. The &quot;Malleus Maleficarum&quot; of Hammer of Witches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_maleficarum

&lt;em&gt;Section III

Section III is the legal part of the Malleus that describes how to prosecute a witch. The arguments are clearly laid for the lay magistrates prosecuting witches. Institoris and Sprenger &lt;strong&gt;offer a step-by-step guide to the conduct of a witch trial, from the method of initiating the process and assembling accusations, to the interrogation (including torture) of witnesses, and the formal charging of the accused.&lt;/strong&gt;[19] Women who did not cry during their trial were automatically believed to be witches.[20]&lt;/em&gt;

Hey, sounds as a Bush-signed memo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>SlappyBastinado Says: </p>
<p>Evil&#8230;&#8230;.Examples of the Black Legend are said to be found in the exaggeratedly negative portrayals of the Inquisition in both historiography and popular culture, and the villains and storylines of modern fiction and film. Your whole world is in your mind.</p>
<p>May 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pm   Recommend (0) |   Report Abuse</em> </p>
<p>Ironic coming from a faithful Foxaid drunkard.</p>
<p>You know? Being an inhabitant from the &#8220;Old Europe&#8221; allows me to know a little more history beyond 1776 and the USA borders than you. That, and not being a flaming egocentric ignorant like you.</p>
<p>Yours, and not mine, it&#8217;s the typical mentality of an Inquisitor (btw, some of the most rabid prosecutors were from Northern Europe, from the very same places that later would become the craddle of protestantism).</p>
<p>For your enlightment, read the following, a manual for inquisitors, about witches and &#8220;enhanced interrogation&#8221; methods. It was written by the not-so-brown guys named  Heinrich Kramer and Jacob Sprenger, a German and a Swiss. The &#8220;Malleus Maleficarum&#8221; of Hammer of Witches.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_maleficarum" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_maleficarum</a></p>
<p><em>Section III</p>
<p>Section III is the legal part of the Malleus that describes how to prosecute a witch. The arguments are clearly laid for the lay magistrates prosecuting witches. Institoris and Sprenger <strong>offer a step-by-step guide to the conduct of a witch trial, from the method of initiating the process and assembling accusations, to the interrogation (including torture) of witnesses, and the formal charging of the accused.</strong>[19] Women who did not cry during their trial were automatically believed to be witches.[20]</em></p>
<p>Hey, sounds as a Bush-signed memo.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639858', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Left Coast Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Coast Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cmon, we &lt;strong&gt;have&lt;/strong&gt; to throw Tom Delay on the board too. That cockroach needs to be squashed soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cmon, we <strong>have</strong> to throw Tom Delay on the board too. That cockroach needs to be squashed soon.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639850', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did our friend go to resume &lt;em&gt;slapping&lt;/em&gt; his &lt;em&gt;bastinado&lt;/em&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did our friend go to resume <em>slapping</em> his <em>bastinado</em>?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639802', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slappy, could you at least send in the second string?  

Or is this a forfeit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slappy, could you at least send in the second string?  </p>
<p>Or is this a forfeit?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or a sudden epiphany?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a sudden epiphany?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slappy?

Having a dark night of the soul?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slappy?</p>
<p>Having a dark night of the soul?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639759', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;give no quarter and expect none&lt;/em&gt;

...leaves no room for gray areas.  So give &lt;em&gt;no quarter&lt;/em&gt;, but don&#039;t torture terrorist&#039;s relatives to get the terrorist to talk?  I think we&#039;re talking more of plug nickels, in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>give no quarter and expect none</em></p>
<p>&#8230;leaves no room for gray areas.  So give <em>no quarter</em>, but don&#8217;t torture terrorist&#8217;s relatives to get the terrorist to talk?  I think we&#8217;re talking more of plug nickels, in that case.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639756', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the failure to format properly in 153.</description>
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		<title>By: ralph the wonder locust</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph the wonder locust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;SlappyBastinado Says:
First, ralph go feed your llama.....&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wow, that&#039;s reaaaaallly clever, Slapster. Got me there. Yer on fire, dude.

Bar &quot;rules&quot; like on the battle field when in combat you do not shoot your enemy in the back as he retreats to get a better shot at you? Rules? This is not a game.....its life or death and both sides know and accept this....to a point. You are trying to adjust the point.

No, you made it clear that there was NO &quot;to a point&quot;.

You said quite plainly, &lt;em&gt;Some of us, on the other hand, as they say, give no quarter and expect none, &lt;strong&gt;such are the rules, or lack there of of the game&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;

Sounds to me like,if you decided that torturing a child would serve your purposes in &quot;the game&quot; you would do so.

What in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/12/ventura-cheney-torture/#comment-5639703&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;above-quoted declamatory statement&lt;/a&gt; indicates that &lt;em&gt;its life or death and both sides know and accept this....&lt;strong&gt;to a point&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;?

&lt;em&gt;(emphasis mine)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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First, ralph go feed your llama&#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p>Wow, that&#8217;s reaaaaallly clever, Slapster. Got me there. Yer on fire, dude.</p>
<p>Bar &#8220;rules&#8221; like on the battle field when in combat you do not shoot your enemy in the back as he retreats to get a better shot at you? Rules? This is not a game&#8230;..its life or death and both sides know and accept this&#8230;.to a point. You are trying to adjust the point.</p>
<p>No, you made it clear that there was NO &#8220;to a point&#8221;.</p>
<p>You said quite plainly, <em>Some of us, on the other hand, as they say, give no quarter and expect none, <strong>such are the rules, or lack there of of the game</strong>.</em></p>
<p>Sounds to me like,if you decided that torturing a child would serve your purposes in &#8220;the game&#8221; you would do so.</p>
<p>What in the <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/12/ventura-cheney-torture/#comment-5639703" rel="nofollow">above-quoted declamatory statement</a> indicates that <em>its life or death and both sides know and accept this&#8230;.<strong>to a point</strong></em>?</p>
<p><em>(emphasis mine)</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639753', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/12/ventura-cheney-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-5639750</link>
		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is not a game.....its life or death and both sides know and accept this....to a point.&lt;/em&gt;

So, you&#039;re really not in favor of torture, you just want to talk tough, is that it?

Um, what battlefield?  we&#039;re talking about terrorists, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is not a game&#8230;..its life or death and both sides know and accept this&#8230;.to a point.</em></p>
<p>So, you&#8217;re really not in favor of torture, you just want to talk tough, is that it?</p>
<p>Um, what battlefield?  we&#8217;re talking about terrorists, right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639750', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SlappyBastinado</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/12/ventura-cheney-torture/comment-page-4/#comment-5639746</link>
		<dc:creator>SlappyBastinado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, ralph go feed your llama.....Bar &quot;rules&quot; like on the battle field when in combat you do not shoot your enemy in the back as he retreats to get a better shot at you? Rules? This is not a game.....its life or death and both sides know and accept this....to a point. You are trying to adjust the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, ralph go feed your llama&#8230;..Bar &#8220;rules&#8221; like on the battle field when in combat you do not shoot your enemy in the back as he retreats to get a better shot at you? Rules? This is not a game&#8230;..its life or death and both sides know and accept this&#8230;.to a point. You are trying to adjust the point.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5639746', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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