Comments on: Graham On Torture: ‘I Don’t Think That These Techniques As A Whole Have Made Us Safer’

By: Rodeskawler

Rodeskawler — Fri, 15 May 2009 10:58:10 +0000

Just another example of the Republican cream of the crop. Graham should consult Palin in order to learn how to present himself more intelligently to the media.

By: rightwing-leftwing

rightwing-leftwing — Thu, 14 May 2009 23:28:28 +0000

We need a leader – not a fighter.

By: wiley

wiley — Thu, 14 May 2009 22:40:11 +0000

Why is it important that a president serve in the military? What next, a president has to have served in a time of war? A president has access to all the military leaders. We just need a president that listens.

By: sacopenapa

sacopenapa — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:26 +0000

USA’s TORTURE PROGRAM and its TERRORIST FOREIGNER POLICIES continue not make the US a safe place. There hasn’t been any “CHANGE” there… sadly.

By: Jackie

Jackie — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:42:13 +0000

#13 Your right many during the time of War didn’t serve and some like Graham and Rummy stayed safe others like Cheney used the Deferment and then Bush who’s Father quickly get him out before his follow soldiers went to fight. I see today the same thing as many support the criminal conduct while never willing to serve in the Military. I lost a brother in Vietnam and my son and daughter served in Stop Lock service in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think I’ve earned the right to speak my opinion. Most of the news that’s reported today is old news to Military families and it was always knewn the Bush Administration’s crimes would catch up with them. Don’t worry the stories Americans have hear are just the begining of a much much worse 7 years of horror. I did notice when the topic of opening the Draft was brought up Americans quickly knocked it down.

By: winddancer

winddancer — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:18:18 +0000

ConForProg – 7,500 military deaths during the Clinton years…yes from ALL causes. Adding up the number of total deaths on Table 5 on the PDF file you linked to is absolutely pathetic.

By: ukeman123

ukeman123 — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:07:35 +0000

Let’s just say the Dems will be the ones to throw out the crap and keep the good stuff that works to keep the country safe ok?
For goodness sake, keep it simple.
Let the srew nuts hang themselves in the process.

By: winddancer

winddancer — Thu, 14 May 2009 19:03:42 +0000

I watched this hearing when it was shown on C-Span last night, and Graham contradicted himself constantly. It was weird, really. Almost like the connection between his right and his left brain has been cut. Weird.

By: barfly

barfly — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:51:37 +0000

7,500 soldiers died during the Clinton years, by the way.

By grouping all military deaths together, you really think we don’t see your pitiful attempt for what it really is?

Weasel words is the republican style of debate:

GRAHAM: Well, I’m just saying there’s information that was devised, was received from enhanced interrogation techniques that did tell us about what the enemy was up to and probably save lives.

Just like Saddam “probably” had WMD. Can’t you guys do a little better? I mean, this is pathetic, really.

By: Bluestocking

Bluestocking — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:47:07 +0000

Like so many other modern-day politicians, Graham is hedging his bets by trying to play both sides against the middle. He doesn’t have either the cojones or the integrity to commit himself fully to either one side or the other because he’s concerned (not entirely without reason) that he might lose votes by doing so. Unfortunately, all he really succeeds in doing this way is making himself seem indecisive, wishy-washy, opportunistic, and unreliable…none of these which anyone in his/her right mind would call admirable or desirable qualities in a leader.

It sounds as though Senator Graham is another Congresscritter who could stand to brush up on his Aesop with particular emphasis (in this case) on the fable entitled “The Old Man, The Boy, And The Donkey” — the moral of which is…

TRY TO PLEASE EVERYONE AND YOU WILL PLEASE NO ONE.

By: DNFP

DNFP — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:43:03 +0000

CONPROG=WASTE OF SPACE

By: delafield

delafield — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:32:46 +0000

ConservativeForProgress Says:

7,500 soldiers died during the Clinton years, by the way.

Really? And which war was it during the Clinton years that 7,500 American soldiers died in combat, Mr. Conservative?

By: DNFP

DNFP — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:13:07 +0000

CONPROG:

Verbal diarrhea is your #1 asset (pun intended) indeed.

Need a clean pair?

By: DNFP

DNFP — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:11:38 +0000

ConservativeForProgress Says:

I SOILED MY LACE PANTIES AGAIN!

By: delafield

delafield — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:10:12 +0000

ConservativeForProgress Says:

7,500 soldiers died during the Clinton years, by the way.

Really? And which war was it during the Clinton years that 7,500 American died in combat?

By: misscoleopteramolly

misscoleopteramolly — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:07:46 +0000

ConservativeForProgress Says
May 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

How many days did Barack Obama serve in the military?
How many days did Joe Biden serve in the military?
How many days did Hillary Clinton serve in the military?
How many days did Bill Clinton serve in the military?
How many days did John Edwards serve in the military?
How many days did Dennis Kucinich serve in the military?
How many days did Bill Richardson serve in the military?

Let’s see, if we add them all up, we get…… 0.

Now, what relevance does that have to the debate? None, as far as I am concerned, so why do you keep brining up military service as if that is a pre-requisite to be entitled to have an opinion?
___________________________________________________________

Nobody is claiming that military service is required to have an opinion. But we do criticize warmongering chickenhawks.

The difference between your list of cherry-picked Democrats who never served (including two people who never dodged the draft, and a couple of people who really aren’t all that politically relevant anymore), and the warmongers we criticize is that nobody on your list has been beating the drums for war.

And that’s a big difference.

By: flounder

flounder — Thu, 14 May 2009 18:02:55 +0000

As long as you are keeping score RE: Graham’s dissembling, you might as well mention that he lied to the Supreme Court and got caught while he was trying to protect the kangaroo court system (Hamdan V. Rumsfeld).
http://www.slate.com/id/2138750/

By: delafield

delafield — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:58:09 +0000

ConservativeForProgress Says:

How many days did Barack Obama serve in the military?

President Clinton never served in the military.

President Clinton kept America out of war for eight years.

President Clinton engineered the greatest economic prosperity that America has ever known. The DJIA went from 2,000 to 14,000.

President Clinton began to pay down Ronald Reagan’s deficits and he left George W. Bush with a projected $5 trillion surplus.

Maybe military service is not as important as you think, Mr Conservative.

By: spencers mom

spencers mom — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:57:21 +0000

Poor Lindsay, he didn’t know what he was saying. He was distracted because his panties were riding up.

PEACE

By: Max Anax junius -1

Max Anax junius -1 — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:54:04 +0000

CFP,
They served as long as Dick Cheney did.

Go on…