Gingrich lashes out at Pelosi: She is ‘trivial,’ ‘vicious,’ ‘despicable,’ and ‘dishonors the Congress.’
Gingrich lashes out at Pelosi: She is ‘trivial,’ ‘vicious,’ ‘despicable,’ and ‘dishonors the Congress.’
Recently, the right wing has attempted to distract from the push for torture accountability by shifting attention to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA). Yesterday, Pelosi accused the CIA of “misleading the Congress,” saying — contrary to CIA accounts — that she was not told about waterboarding during a September 2002 briefing. In an interview with ABC radio today, Gingrich launched a vitriolic diatribe at Pelosi:
“I think she has lied to the House, and I think that the House has an absolute obligation to open an inquiry, and I hope there will be a resolution to investigate her. And I think this is a big deal. I don’t think the Speaker of the House can lie to the country on national security matters,” Gingrich said.
He continued: “I think this is the most despicable, dishonest and vicious political effort I’ve seen in my lifetime.” “She is a trivial politician, viciously using partisanship for the narrowist of purposes, and she dishonors the Congress by her behavior.”
Gingrich gleefully called for an investigation of Pelosi, while at the same time saying that an investigation into Bush’s torture architects could “get a lot of people killed.” And while Gingrich — who has previously defended Dick Cheney on torture — decried Pelosi’s “partisanship” in the interview, he also said that “left-wing Democrats don’t care about defending America.”
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Oh – so, Newtie? You’re looking in the mirror again, are you??
*eyes rolling*
May 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pmNewt said all this while looking in the mirror.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pmAs opposed to having an affair with a staffer while impeaching the sitting President for a blowjob?
May 15th, 2009 at 3:43 pmNewt is the biggest hypocrite of all, he shouldn’t talk about this stuff.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pmHe continued: “I think this is the most despicable, dishonest and vicious political effort I’ve seen in my lifetime.” “She is a trivial politician, viciously using partisanship for the narrowist of purposes, and she dishonors the Congress by her behavior.”
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Why is Gingrich talking about himself? Oh, wait — he specializes in that. Like going after Bill Clinton for adultery at the same time he’s cheating on his wife.
WHY do people still listen to this little man?
May 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pmDESPICABLE??
Well, The Newt should know despicable . .
I kinda think ‘despicable’ is serving your wife with divorce papers while she’s in the hospital receiving chemotherapy treatment . .
May 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pmOk, start the investigation with Pelosi. Doesn’t matter where it starts since the actionable crimes lay elsewhere. She didn’t authorize crap, she didn’t author crap.
Let’s do it.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pmMore cowardly, blow-hard posturing by an irrelvant GOP’er who is desperately trying to keep his face on tv and make his way onto the GOP presidential ballot in 2012.
Seems kind of like numerous deckhands fighting over who gets to steer the wheel of the Titanic as it breaks in half and sinks into the depths.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pmGee Newtie, project much?
May 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pmTadpole can’t have it both ways. If he wants to truly investigate Pelosi then there will have to be an investigation into the source of the torture authorization.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pmYes Pelosi is a liar but Newt beat her record long ago. The contract with America that only Newt knew about and then his Religious out rage of the Clinton affair while he was not only cheating on his wife but had an aide as his mistress for many years. Now Newt did dump his wife and married his mistress and is looking for a replacement again.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pmYe Olde Neutster, the great projectionist. Now he’s projecting himself onto Nancy Pelosi, with his smears of ‘trivial,’ ‘vicious,’ ‘despicable,’ and ‘dishonors the Congress.’ Heck of a projection, Mr. Gingrich.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pmThese repugniscum are ridiculous – they would be laughed into oblivion for their hypocrisy and feigned outrage – except they continue to get their friends in the media to print their words, videotape their interviews and otherwise gain validity.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pmThis man has been resurrected by the repugs because they are so bereft of anyone with intellect and rational thinking – this is the best they have – the man who, among many offenses, once shut down the government because he didn’t like the seat he got on the presidential airplane.
I’ve said it before; I’ll say it again; I copyrighted it.
Newt Gingrich is a g*dd*mned f**king liar. Nobody cares what he thinks–except the So-Called Liberal Media, for some reason…
May 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pmWell, The Newt should know despicable . .
I kinda think ‘despicable’ is serving your wife with divorce papers while she’s in the hospital receiving chemotherapy treatment . .
And boffing your aide on your congressional desk while you’re piously condemning Bill Clinton and impeaching him.
This man is scum. And I do not understand why the networks and cable shows give him so much air time…..he must be giving them some big tips. He is the perfect example (along with Rove, Rush, DeLay, etc.) of the hypocrites in the Republican party who use the method of projection of their own foibles onto the Democrats to discredit them. Every time they do something like this, they are describing their own despicable actions. Nice try, Newter……..
May 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pm“I think she has lied to the House, and I think that the House has an absolute obligation to open an inquiry, and I hope there will be a resolution to investigate her. And I think this is a big deal. I don’t think the Speaker of the House can lie to the country on national security matters,” Gingrich said.
A Republican calling for an investigation about lies concerning national security matters? Good idea, but it’s about 7 years too late.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:52 pmI like that line of thinking, Newt, because the US government totally has a legal obligation to investigate the Bush administration for torture.
So, let’s open it up, Newt. Let’s get these investigations rolling.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:53 pm13 — I’m nor sure ghat intellect and rational thinking are the proper words to apply to the Newster.
Asswipe is better, IMHO.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pmNo, you don’t understand. Bush, Cheney, ect. didn’t do anything wrong, and Nancy Pelosi should be hung for not ratting them out for they things they didn’t do that were not wrong.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pmSlimy Newt is ‘trivial,’ ‘vicious,’ ‘despicable,’ and ‘dishonors the Congress.’
Would be much more true.
Fcuk the Republic Fascist Party
May 15th, 2009 at 3:58 pmTest.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pmThat guy is hilarious. He should open for Glenn Beck.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:00 pmSo says the pious hypocrite who led a holy war to impeach Clinton for a BJ while he was doing that and much more with his mistress and dumped his wife for.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:01 pmPelosi made a very serious charge, that CIA officials lied to the Congress. At least the Dems in Congress. And, while I don’t like her very much, I don’t think she would be stupid enough to make a false claim about such a thing.
Newt, on the other hand, has nothing to lose. He’s positioned himself as the “great white hope” of a corrupt and failing party. As such, with the help of the FAUX propagandists, he can say any damn fool thing he wants and the sheeple will cheer.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:02 pmFor Newt to criticize Pelosi is the height of hypocrisy and just what I expected of a washed up, banished, mediocre member of Congress. Ye gods!
May 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pmGlass houses anyone?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pmOne hypocrit speaking of another / Kettle calling the skillet black.
It’s only okay for politicians in the administration to lie to Congress.
Staging a “war” on a group of terrorists, and then invading a country that has nothing to do with the terrorists in order to distract attention away from the thieves on Wall Street as they looted the equity of the American middle class, and prepared to loot the U.S. Treasury . . . there’s nothing wrong with that and anyone who even thinks of doing anything about it is a despicable traitor.
Go away and crawl back under your rock, newt.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pmI’m totally up for sacrificing Pelosi if it means we could get to the heart of the scandal.
That sound fair to you, Newt?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pmLemme get this straight — Newtie defended his hero Cheney on torture but wants Pelosi investigated? I’ve always known he’s an evil SOB, but I didn’t think he was stupid.
Does he have any idea where such an investigation would invariably lead? Nancy might get some dings, but there are a number of people on his side of the fence who would sustain far more damage. It would be difficult to hang Nancy without Bush, Cheney, and several other GWOT cheerleaders getting caught in the noose.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pmI hear the former speaker was turned into a Newt by witch, but he didn’t get better.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:07 pmWhy is everyone so up in arms about the idea of the CIA lying to Congress? Isn’t that what they are trained to do……lie to other countries on behalf of America so they can get information?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pmlooktothehills Says:
Test.
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The least stupid thing you have ever posted
May 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pmWhenever someone like the Newt uses the word “despicable” all I hear is Daffy Duck!
PEACE
May 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm“I think this is the most despicable, dishonest and vicious political effort I’ve seen in my lifetime.”
Yes, Newt, the Bush Administration was pretty bad. I’m glad they’re gone, too.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pmThis reptile is depraved.
Republican – party of the depraved.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pmgo away, you philandering piece of shite.
an excerpt from TalkLeft:
really, this guy should have no credibility what-so-ever.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pmYOU GO REPUBLICANS ! Wag that Dog, Wag that Dog.
For Gawd’s sake, do not let the american public look beyond Pelosi, and see that what was done was ILLEGAL by both domestic and International law! Pretend that because Pelosi might have known about it, THAT is the real crime!
May 15th, 2009 at 4:12 pmHow can you dishonor Congress?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:12 pmGinb!tch reminds me of an old lady that keeps b!tching that it’s cold when the temperature is set to 90 degrees F. SHUT UP ALREADY! This stuck-stoopid moron is irreverent and is only good tee-vee for FAUX Noise.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pmWhen you watched the media just sit on their hands during the run up to the War in Iraq and allow the Cheney Administration to dishonor America, it’s not surprising that they find it easier to battle Nancy Pelosi than acknowledging their own failures as reporters or their own failure to be objective because after all it was this same CIA Agency that provided the “ACCURATE” information for the justification for going to WAR.
We can always count on the media to ask the “Tough Question” right; you know like John King’s interview with Dick Cheney, you know like All of Fox interviews with Dick Cheney right and that very insightful interview with Dick Cheney on Face the Nation. We all know there were no restrictions put in place for asking Cheney tough questions , Dick Cheney wanted everything on the table, absolutely nothing was off limits was there? We all know that Dick Cheney has volunteered to go Rachel Maddow’s Show but she continuously turns him down. We all know he has been begging to discuss his Administration with David Shuster but David Shuster was too busy praising the intellectual wisdom of Miss California and we all know that Cheney is a man of un-measureable courage that he would never send his daughter out to fight his battles for him.
We all know that Cheney loved his country so much that he not only signed up for one tour of duty in the Vietnam War but he signed up twice while at the same time Collin Powell was ducking and hiding like the coward that he is because he didn’t feel his country was worth standing up for.
And we know that media would never allow themselves to get sidetracked into becoming a protectionist for the Cheney Administration’s Authorization for Torture because that would be malpractice wouldn’t?
But Nancy Pelosi is the Real Enemy Right
May 15th, 2009 at 4:14 pmpete hit it. This reptile and all the repubs have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Every pass is a hail-mary, every view is the extreme.
Someone is lying. Investigate and it will all come around to those who are really guilty, but the orders came from someone. A few underlings didn’t suddenly decide to disregard the law. There were accomplices in Congress, but they didn’t give the orders. Some dick did that.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pmNo doubt. They’re in four-down territory. Too bad the refs never make them turn the ball over after they get sacked on fourth down.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pmAll this coming from a man who had to leave congress for ethics problems. A man who is married to his third mistress. Who went to the hospital room of his first wife, while she was still under anesthesia from cancer surgery. He was trying to get her to sign away her rights while she was half unconscious. The nurse had to throw him out.
This is the man that got the Republican majority with his so called contract with America. Which turned out to be a contract on America. Look up the word despicable and you will find his picture.
This man who wants to run for President, has become Catholic. He is trying to get his other marriages declared invalid, so when he runs, he can say that the church calls this current wife his only legal and moral wife. Elect this man President and you have another Bush and Cheney crime family. This piece of sludge.
If Pelosi lied six ways to Sunday, she could never match for dishonesty and corruption Newt G. This slimy barely human being leaves a trail when he walks. His zipper is permanently on open for the next bimbo. He would make Clinton’s blow job look like grade school. And this man who hypocritically called for Clinton’s impeachment.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pmNeuter Newt.
Waterboard Hannity.
Overdose Limpballs.
What does this get you?
A wet, stoned gasbag with no balls.
If Truth was money, all 3 would be in a soup line…
May 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pmI don’t think the Speaker of the House can lie to the country on national security matters
I’d sure rather the Speaker, whichever party they belong to at any given time, not lie to us.
Can Newt claim, with a straight face, that Hastert never lied to us?
Hastert’s House was a crude and unworkable place, where members who sought to uphold their oaths to “defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic” were held up to ridicule and forced to hold hearings on issues involving the most extreme abuses of presidential authority — lying to the Congress and the American people about matters of war and peace — in basement rooms.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:22 pmAnd I agree with those of you who say, “By all means let’s investigate and get to the bottom of this waterboarding fiasco. Who knew what when and who authorized it.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pmCome on guys and girls, you are missing the forest because of the trees. Republicans are not afraid of this debate. Most conservatives do not believe this was torture to begin with, regardless of what you say. We are not shying away from what we did, why we did it, and what the results were.
This has everything to do with the person who is #3 in line to the Presidency, lying about what she knew because polls told her to be against it. When all of this began she agreed with it, only to turn and excoriate a sitting President during a time of war for something she did not object to in the first place. She had any number of ways to protest the EIT’s yet she remained silent until she saw an opportunity by being against it, to put it simply she remained silent for political gain and then opened her mouth for the same reasons.
Most of the posts I have read ridicule Newt because of his past while ignoring the content of what he is saying, imagine Barney Frank were the one who said these things instead of Newt, just because you don’t like the person does not mean that his points are invalid. Truth does not need the majority.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:26 pmOh, puh-leeeeeeeze…as if Newt Gingrich has any right to claim the moral high ground!
“Lied to the House?” Well, Gingrich would know all about that. If memory serves, was Gingrich not forced to step down as Speaker Of The House by members of his own party — probably at least in part due to the fact that he lied to the House Ethics Committee during an investigation which was intended to examine whether or not he had violated tax laws?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pmproject much, newt?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pmHere’s the problem with Pelosi. Whether it’s deserved or not, she is the face of anti-war and anti-torture. She has painted a picture that the former administration was absolutely wrong on both counts. And used that as justification for her new leadership in the Congress.
It’s possible that she is just communicating ineffectively, but what seems likely today is that she knew that the Bush administration had either been waterboarding suspects or planned to waterboard suspects. And she said nothing.
She is obviously not as responsible for waterboarding as the Bush administration, but her complicity in the knowledge makes her staunch opposition to torture seem hypocritical.
I personally believe that in the atmosphere following 9/11, the idea of waterboarding suspects wasn’t as reprehensible as it is today. For Democrats as well as Republicans. The further removed from the threat, the more clearly reprehensible it seems.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pmAll of this is such bullsh!t, I don’t care who’s lying, someone produce documents, quit letting the media decide for everyone. Yak yak yak yak, just like everything. One talking head says the sky is blue another says it’s green and on and on and on.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pmGosh!!!! I never thought I would agree with Gingrich on anything!!!!
May 15th, 2009 at 4:29 pmjburr – I wholeheartedly disagree with you. This is all a distraction to take the attention away from the illegal torture issue.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pmWhy can’t Nancy tell the truth?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:32 pmLOL! Gingrich is projecting again. The funny thing is Rethugs don’t even realize it when they do it.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pmThe BushCo crime family and administration politicized the DoJ and CIA so, gee, it doesn’t surprise me that the CIA lied.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pmWhat torture issue? The one that Pelosi agreed with before she disagreed with it? This entire thing was stirred up by Madame Speaker herself, when she knew about it from the beginning. I have no problem investigating the entire “so called” torture debate but lets bring it all out and let the chips fall where they may. I am a big enough man to admit when I am wrong, I don’t think I am in this case, but if Republicans are found to be in the wrong so be it, but I want the Democrats held to the same standard. Liberals preach fairness. Lets see if you are true to your word.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pmEven if she did get thoroughly briefed on what was going on torture-wise, what could she have done?
In October 2005, CIA officials began briefing other congressional leaders with oversight of the intelligence community, including top appropriators who provided the agency its annual funding. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a prisoner-of-war in Vietnam and an opponent of torture techniques, was also read into the program at that time even though he did not hold a special committee position overseeing the intelligence community.
A bipartisan collection of lawmakers have criticized the practice of limiting information to just the “Gang of Four”, who were expressly forbidden from talking about the information from other colleagues, including fellow members of the intelligence committees.
I certainly don’t condone her lying if she in fact did, but, what could she have done?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pmOS Says:
Outrageously stupid. You are a liar a fool a moron and a troll. NO ONE with a functional cerebral cortex cares what you think troll
May 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pmSexism is in their DNA.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:38 pmShe is not above reproach for sure, but the terms dishonor, trivial, viciously are typical for sexists seeking to disarm and dehumanize a woman.
This from a dumbass who believed over 900 lies from the Bush administration before the Iraq war.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pmlooktothehills Says:
Why can’t Nancy tell the truth?
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Why are YOU such an ignorant piece of human debris, troll?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pmHe would know since he set the example.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pm“The Neuter” priving my theory as well:
The list of tired GOP tactics:
1. Accuse your opponents of the very actions that you are guilty of.
2. Use name-calling.
3. Use race-baiting.
4. Fear-monger as often as possible.
5. Avoid responsibility and accountability at all costs.
6. Lie, lie, and lie some more because facts are irrelvant and unnecessary.
Three points for Newt!
May 15th, 2009 at 4:39 pmProudMORON one of the stupidest organic beings in the universe. It isnt in the Democratic nature to lie it is in the GOP nature to be so stupid and brainwashed you dont know the difference. YOU are a perfect example. It is hard to imagine ANYONE being any stupider than you without them forgetting to breathe
May 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pmI wonder if, now that she herself is the target of the smear campaign, Pelosi is sorry she took impeachment off the table without ever looking into whether or not there were grounds for it.
Who is next in line for House Speaker if Nancy steps or is forced down?
PEACE
May 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pmDid you believe this, dipshit?
“We do not torture.”-George W. Bush
May 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pmEugeneDebs Says:
looktothehills Says:
Why can’t Nancy tell the truth?
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Why are YOU such an ignorant piece of human debris, troll?
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The current CIA director stated that the reports are accurate, which means that Nancy is lying.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pmjburr,
I am not a huge Pelosi fan, but I would tend to believe her over the CIA.
It sounds plausible that they only referenced waterboarding in the context that they weren’t doing it.
Gingrich’s past is relevant. he is the liar. he is the one who shouldn’t be trusted. character is everything.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pmjburr
Wow you are stupid. So your argument is that a Dem who KNEW about and didnt try to stop torture is equally guilty with those who INITIATED it and ORDERED IT? Really?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pmshoeless Says:
looktothehills Says:
Why can’t Nancy tell the truth?
Did you believe this, dipshit?
“We do not torture.”-George W. Bush
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We don’t torture, nor have we in the past 8 years. “Enhanced Interrogation”.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm.
R E M E M B E R:
Newt Gingrich thinks that America would be better off it She were attacked again so that the American people can be frightened into giving up even more foundational Freedoms and Liberties.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lmje_newt-gingrich-bush-should-allow-rem_news
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May 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pmmom @68,
May 15th, 2009 at 4:45 pmThe caucus of the Majority Party of the House would (S)elect the next House Speaker.
Lookingintohisdeadeyes
Not really. IT is still he said she said and Panetta WASNT THERE. Pelosi was. It is still MAYBE this MAYBE that no proof yet Pelosi is lying. Panetta ALSO said
“is drawn from the past files of the CIA and represents MFRs [memorandums for the record] completed at the time and notes that summarized the best recollections”
http://mediamatters.org/research/200905150004
May 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pmThat’s what I thought. If I sold you a used car and the engine blew up the next day, I could probably sell it to you again.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pmAnd Newtie “did what, exactly” to make Congress a real honorable place?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pmWow Newt – project much?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pmNo Eugene, you misunderstand. Their argument is that the people who initiated and ordered the torture are innocent. The Dem who failed to stop them is guilty.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:49 pmlooktothehills Says:
We don’t torture, nor have we in the past 8 years. “Enhanced Interrogation”.
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You are a liar and a fool. Waterboarding IS torture. It was torture during the Spanish Inquisitions. It was torture when WE sentenced Japanese officers to PRISON for doing it, when we courtmartialed OUR OWN soldiers for overseeing it during Vietnam and when we sentenced an American sherrif to ten years in PRISON for doing it to a prisoner. Also the Taguba report DOCUMENTED electric shocks to genitals of prisoners and at least TWO beating deaths ruled homocide and death by blunt force trauma at Bagram Air Force base. You are a disgusting soulless creature who has no brain. Your Bush Idolotry is pathetic
May 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pmRead carefully, if she objected to EIT’s so vehemently why did she say nothing. There is only one answer, at the time she did not think it was torture. How can you be guilty of torture when it was not torture?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pmActually Eugene, the US government executed several Japanese officers in 1947 and 1948 for waterboarding US, British and Austrailian soldiers and civilians.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pmOne has to wonder what good it would have done if Nancy knew and made a protest. My thought is that it there would be little accomplished, given the mood of the country and the Administration soiling with White House carpets then. Weren’t those still the days when you were called unpatriotic for not rubber stamping the the administrations policies? Called a terrorist sympathizer if you questioned or disagreed with the right wing agenda? Yeah I think they were those days.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pmI agree with both sides- I think the Republicans are definitely providing a smoke screen to what is now presently thin allegations, stoking the anti-Pelosi theme for the conservative zombies like they’ve always done, with thinly veiled misogyny. But I fully support an investigation wherever that falls (not just on hearsay), Republican or Democrat.
This needs to be dealt with, but don’t anyone forget: these were executive orders of the Bush Administration, with evidence of a very thought out strategy to ignore our Constitution and international law. They are the most at fault and show be the most accountable. This Pelosi fixation is childish in light of that reality.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pmWhat hit you in the head, the hoof of a mule?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pmTo compare our water boarding techniques to what the Japanese did and the Spanish inquisition is a joke and you should be ashamed of yourself for being that intellectually dishonest. Take off your rose colored glasses and stop viewing your country with disgust. You might not like it but the US is the greatest force for good that the world has ever seen and as much as you want to convince yourself otherwise history will prove you to be utterly ridiculous. Are you so brainwashed that you can actually look at history and change it. Do you hate the citizens of this country that much? These people, the military, provide you with the freedom to hate your country without impunity. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you, do you realize that your buddies Castro and Hugo would cart you away in the middle of the night to never be seen again. Is that really the vision of America that you are promoting?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:56 pmfrom her official statement:
At the same time (Sept 2002), the Bush Administration was misleading the American people about the threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
This is about the Bush administration controlling the information that was released and lying about almost everything else. Does anyone really think that in September 2002 they told Pelosi everything? They certainly didn’t tell her that they were conducting ‘enhanced interrogation’ to torture detainees to find a link in Iraq to 9/11.
If they want to call out liars, they need to go back to at least September 2001 and they’ll find so many liars they won’t know who to investigate first.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pmJburr-
Please. EIT? Torture. Torture as established by the international community. If you don’t accect that fact, then why would someone even want to argue with you, when you can’t even get the basics right? It’s like arguing a creationist about the half-life of some radioisotopes.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pmReally? I didn’t know that you are an expert in the technique of waterboarding. Please enlighten us as to the difference in the practice as used by the Japanese and as used by the US. This should be interesting.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pmjburr
You are a fool Waterboarding has not changed an iota since the days of the Spanish inquisitions. Your worthless meme is a LIE and its stupid too. Only the most brainwashed and gullible are falling for that one.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pmLunaluz Says:
Weren’t those still the days when you were called unpatriotic for not rubber stamping the the administrations policies?
To voice any dissent of the upcoming war back in 2002 was to practically have a FBI file opened on you on the spot.
Where I worked at the time I quietly disagreed that we should be going into Iraq when it came up in a conversation and my co-workers looked at me like I’d just transformed into a creature from outer space right before their eyes.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pmJburr-
you keep firing off more conservative BS faster than anyone can keep up.
BECAUSE we love this country so much, we will not abidge by the use of torture and ruining its good name. The REAL patriots are those that look CLEARLY at history and see that not all is as rosy and black and white as you put it. You have it backwards. It is those real patriots that have looked critically at our own country that have pushed it to further greatness, and it is people like you who have tried to re-write history to suit your own simplistic vision.
Why do YOU hate the citizens of this country so much to deny the truth of the situation?
May 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pmRealness,
May 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pmSince when does the international community have any say with what we do. I guess that you are of the mind that the brilliant brain trust at the UN should have a final say in all our actions. That is exactly what I want a bunch of thugs and dictators dictating American law. That is a great way for us to prosper.
Panetta wasn’t the Director at the time of the briefing, stupid troll. If they would lie to Congress, what would prevent them from lying to the new leadership?
That’s part of the reason why things seem to be moving so slowly. It will take years to unravel all the lies and half-truths of the previous regime. And we already know that they carried on a campaign of covering up their crimes, thousands of missing emails and erased video tapes, for instance.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pmand nice use of the military as your moral shield. You have officially disgusted me with that last post.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:03 pmNow now Eugene. He obviously know a great deal about the technique of waterboarding. Give him a chance to explain the difference between Japanese, Spanish Inquisition and US waterboarding. I can’t wait to hear it.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pmWell, then JBurr, let’s release those torture photos since the US is only capable of good. Let’s show the world how well we treat our prisoners.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pmRemember!!!!! It’s ALWAYS “opposite day” in gopee-world!
May 15th, 2009 at 5:06 pmSince when does the international community have any say with what we do. I guess that you are of the mind that the brilliant brain trust at the UN should have a final say in all our actions. That is exactly what I want a bunch of thugs and dictators dictating American law. That is a great way for us to prosper.
good, now you’re showing your true imperialist colors. If you would read a history book, you’d see that the U.S. has tried many many times to solicit UN approval for its many wars, some times with approval, sometimes not.
You also show your true naivete or just plain stupidity to call the international community a bunch of thugs and dictators. You’re nothing but the same tired jingoistic moron that has smeared this country’s name through the mud.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:06 pmshoeless Says 99
Yeah I wont be holding my breath waiting for that
May 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pmHa! As if Gingrich was honest, reputable and relevant. Who really cares about what Gingrich has to say.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pmBurrhead
You are a punk and a moron. We SIGNED international agreements. Once they are ratified as the Convention against torture statute was they become the SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND equal to Federal Law
May 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pmOn this subject? Since the United States signed the first Geneva Convention in 1882.
Any other questions?
May 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pmmary lacewing says:
I know where you’re coming from. Several years ago, I told a co-worker that the case for war against Iraq was TOTAL BS, and was told to “leave the country”.
My reply was: “I don’t see YOUR ass in the army”
May 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pmI did my bit “for king & country” in Vietnam, so I DO know what I’m talking about. I really HATE these GD flag-wavers who don’t know shit.
All this hatred for Pelosi–Bob Graham is saying the same thing.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pmIf you want an example of Japanese torture look at the Bataan Death March. That was torture. Filling a mans stomach beyond what it can hold and then kicking the prisoner in said stomach causing an internal rupture painfully killing the man. That was the Japanese form of water boarding. Forcing soldiers into a ditch the soldier dug then pouring gas on them and setting them on fire is torture. With a little research you will see that any comparison between us and them is preposterous. Please research before you make the attempt at talking with authority.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pmlooktothehills Says:
We don’t torture, nor have we in the past 8 years. “Enhanced Interrogation”.
That’s the kind of willful idiocy that brought shame to our nation and chaos to the “Banana Republican” party.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pmIn 1981, six months after his divorce was final, Gingrich wed Marianne Ginther.[11] He remained married to Ginther until 2000, when they divorced. Shortly thereafter, Gingrich married Callista Bisek, with whom he later admitted to having had an affair during his second marriage,[12] at approximately the same time he was leading the Congressional investigation of Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky.
Newt and Callista Gingrich currently live in McLean, Virginia.[13]
A Baptist since graduate school, Gingrich converted to Catholicism, his wife’s faith, on March 29, 2009.[14]
May 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pmEveryone should take note of the trajectory of Jburr’s arguments… a harmless appeal to “rational” thinking to frame Pelosi’s ALLEGED actions as fait accompli and already going into her motives…
don’t forget using the inocuous EIT euphemism for torture.
and then quickly gets down to the more blatant and obvious GOP points, and then when attacked, strikes back at the patriotism of those that challenge his viewpoint, then using the “how can you hate the military and the US citizens so much” argument, quickly throwing aside any rationalism. At first wanting us to look “rationally” at the different “types” of waterboarding, then moving onto his true colors:
only to end up admitting that he doesn’t care about the US being held accoutable by any international law, set up in part by us.
it’s a confused and impassioned argument from the right and jburr is the most perfect example.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pmjburr
My GOD you are stupid. YOU wouldnt know research from tapioca. The crimes of Asano were described when he was sentenced for waterboarding you MORON and the decription is EXACTLY the same as waterboarding today. You are ignorant, you are brainwashed and you dont have the slightest idea what you are talking about
May 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pmhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/02/AR2007110201170.htmlhttp://www.
In this case from the tribunal’s records, the victim was a prisoner in the Japanese-occupied Dutch East Indies:
A towel was fixed under the chin and down over the face. Then many buckets of water were poured into the towel so that the water gradually reached the mouth and rising further eventually also the nostrils, which resulted in his becoming unconscious and collapsing like a person drowned. This procedure was sometimes repeated 5-6 times in succession.
That is the SAME thing we are doing fool
May 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pmAnd Newt Gingrich holds what position today? Why did he leave the House of Representatives? Oh, so now he is on some pedestal giving moral judgdements on people who actually have positions of responsibility. This fat, bloviating idiot is in the same category as Rushpo the windup drug addict doll.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pmsometimes I’m in awe of the trolls on here. it’s the craziest deceptive stuff, and then when they get called out for what they are, or can’t answer a question, they just disappear. Friggin sociopaths. I just want to know if in their scared empty little heads that they actually think about how and why they’re schooled on here, or do they just purge the whole memory for its discomfort?
oh well. At least its Friday.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pmGingrich thinks??!!
May 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pmSo, Ms. Pelosi.. how do you feel about “taking impeachment off the table” now? Did you really think they were going to start playing nice with you? It’s really hard to feel much sympathy for her, when you reflect on the gutless behavior of the Democratic party over the past years. You would think by now, they would have learned a lesson. Judging by our President’s still consistent effort to placate these bastards, it’s obvious they haven’t.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pmWe aren’t the only thing they purge from their memory, Realness. We are already seeing their “arguments” framed as; “first Clinton, then Obama”. They’ve nearly managed to forget the whole Bush Presidency.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pmNewt nailed that one!
May 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pmReggie1296 Says:
God you trolls are pathetic. Did you have to take special pills to get that stupid?
May 15th, 2009 at 5:39 pmThanks nancy for putting your self-interest ahead of the people.
Why can’t you call teabaggers liars, and all the other bad things repugs are.
This is what happens when you take impeachment off the table and let the devil roam free.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pmPete-
I know! I mean it’s difficult to be self-critical, but this is a crazy compulsion by conservative that come on TP, and it plays directly into their political leaders hands, as it serves their self-interest completely.
This is a lesson for progressives, and one I think a lot of us have learned way more than the right: self-analysis and examination always need to happen and there has to be admission of wrongdoing when it’s due.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:47 pmThe CIA believes the CIA would lie.
link
No one in Washington claiming that the CIA wouldn’t lie, could possibly be telling the truth. It is, after all, the CIA.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pmjburr Says: He is a scum bag who blows goats.
If you want an example of American torture –
Check out the photos of White Phosphorus we used on civilians in Iraq.
May 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pmWhat so funny is groupthink has once again written an article that illicits a response that is against the repugnicans lol!
Stupid sheeple!
Groupthink gives you x stimulus, you give y response to it! Knee jerk stupidity.
Anyone that pays attention to politics knows Pelosi is absolutely horrid individual. So is Newt Gingrich.
But Pelosi is a huge liar, HUGE! Newt maybe deluded like most of you kneejerkers who never study or work. But Pelosi will literally lie right to your fat obese faces and you cant figure it out lol
Screw all of you idiots! I just took 4 mg of xanax to put me to sleep. Ill see you all a bit later!
I cant wait for the next article written intentionally to illicit mind control from you sheeple!
I am sure, that x republican said, y statement.
And then a chorus of sheeple will respond on the thread. Its pathetic how you cant think for yourselves. Pathetic, why the USA is over
May 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pmGod- I just took 4 mg of xanax to put me to sleep.
Can we suggest 40 of them?
By the way, God doesn’t exist, so just go away.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:14 pmahahaha. Gotta love God’s standup routine. Pitch perfect on this Friday afternoon!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pmBlasphemous troll
You are stupid. You are a punk, you are a troll. No one takes you seriously. No one in the entire world likes you or respects you and you wont make your dreary dismal, lonely life any easier by being a pathetic punk HERE. Just go quietly away and let the adults talk. You are a moron and are too stupid to contribute anyway
May 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pmGod Says:
Pathetic, why the USA is over
Oh.
Good.
Then leave, and please take all you looney-bin fanatics with you.
We’ll manage, somehow, without you.
Bye, bye….
May 15th, 2009 at 6:30 pmWow. Stunning display of whack-a-troll. There’s troll guts on MY keyboard, and I’m just a bystander!
Nice.
Good posts.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm4mg of xanax to put you to sleep, mate?
Is God Almighty a lightweight?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:33 pmNo one is shifting attention.
Nancy Pelosi has found that the road to “torture accountability” has led directly to her doorstep!
May 15th, 2009 at 6:36 pmGod is an immature punk in love with his own ego. But hey, even tick infested rats like attention, and if God doesn’t get his attention fix here, who even knows or cares?
I had a dog once, a lot like this God. Btch would eat her own shit and throw up on the front porch for the attention she knew was coming. We finally had to put a bullet in her ear to put her out of her misery.
Picking up any clues God?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:44 pmRomartin
Sure if you are dumb enough to think that KNOWING about something and not stopping it (which itself is not yet proven) is just as bad as COMMITTING THE OFFENSE. Then again you would have to be awfully stupid to think that.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pmGod: Its pathetic how you cant think for yourselves. Pathetic, why the USA is over
Slappy’s got a divine sock puppet?
Is this another part of your experiment, Slappo?
May 15th, 2009 at 6:52 pmWhile the liberal media and trolls are in a frenzy over Pelosi, this revelation is being ignored:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-13/cheneys-role-deepens/
May 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pmReggie1296 Says:
Newt nailed that one!
While his wife was away, if his past is any predictor…
May 15th, 2009 at 6:54 pmNancy Pelosi is showing the Republicans that if they try to bite her, she will bite back. I’m actually loving it.
They have probably opened Pandora’s box on this one. If they say that Pelsoi should resign because she “knew” about the torture, then they will have to call for the resignation of all the Republicans who were also briefed.
May 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pmJackie Says:
Yes Pelosi is a liar but Newt beat her record long ago.
I am curious as to why you think Pelosi is lying. She has asked the CIA to release the transcript of her briefing. I don’t think she would do that if the transcript would prove her a liar.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pmdog, you must like swimming in shit.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:07 pmIsn’t calling for her resignation because she ostensibly knew about the torture, be an admission that the administration is guilty of torture? They can’t have their cake and eat it too. And who else was on that committee? Is she supposed to be the only one who was briefed?
May 15th, 2009 at 7:08 pmIt’s the pumpkin calling the gourd orange.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:26 pmI hadn’t realized that Pelosi was actually the puppet-mistress of the puppet-master, and was the person REALLY running this country for the last 8 years.
So THAT’S why all of her ideas were always used and everyone voted for whatever it was that she wanted every time.
They fear her. (cue spooky music).
So… Pelosi ordered Cheney around, and Cheney ordered Bush? Is that what I am supposed to believe? The buck stops with Pelosi?
Wow.
I am insulted.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:28 pmThe Bush administration decieved the entire nation. Why is it so hard to believe that they also decieved Congress? Newtie is projecting a bit much.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:47 pmPelosi reminds me of my dear Grandma who near the end of her days sounded completely confused.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pmUnexpected modesty from Newt; IMO his tenure was far more shameful, deceitful, and craven that anything Nancy Pelosi
May 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pmwill ever do.
A little biographical information on Newt, who really has no credibility as a person of honor, as he has now ended two marriages, despite the promise that he would be faithful to each spouse “until death do us part”:
May 15th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
My apologies for my earlier post at 112. This was a cut and past from Wikipedia.com. I intended to delete the last paragraph then add my own comments. The following is what I intended to post.
As you can see above, Newt Gingrich is in no position to be throwing stones at anybody. His marital past is about as sordid as it can get. He dumps his cancer stricken first wife then runs off with a staffer on his second wife while leading the Clinton impeachment in the House. Given his history I have to wonder why anyone gives him the time of day. He had his chance and blew it big time.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:42 pmI think she’s wimpy and kinda dumb, but Newtie is a posterboy for trivial and vicious, and didn’t he dishonor Congress or something?
Or was it just that he’s dishonored two wives?
May 16th, 2009 at 12:25 amWhat a couple of “how did they get there” politicians in that picture, Limbaugh, Hannity and Harry Reid could of made it a portrait of whats wrong with America.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:57 amIt’s nothing but theater. Newt gets the spotlight. Hurray. What he says isn’t important; rather, it’s that he said something that got him quoted and taped.
No one really does care what he says. His mug is everywhere now. That’s what counts. Newt is fighting a visuals war. The more he’s on the tube saying something that fills up the news cycle, the more the producers will tell their reporters to go to his news conferences. Newt could roll on talking about albino slugs. Most people remember the visual image, not the linguistic imagery. Newt can be a popular guy in no time.
Remember, it’s television. It doesn’t matter whether Newt divorced a wife dying of cancer while having an affair. No one will call him on it (and there won’t be a visual memory), so he’s home free.
Newt is smart. He treats the average US citizen as if they all were uneducated dolts. But Newt is smart.
And Newt thinks he’s cute. Cute enough to attack the interns and get away with it.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:09 amSo all the talking heads seem to think Pelosi will now walk back her statements and try to move on to other things.
I don’t know, you think that will happen?
May 16th, 2009 at 2:14 amI find it humorous that posters who excused Clinton on having an affair with a young girl…who worked for him…are so easily led to pointing out that Newt…had an affair with someone who DIDN’T work for him…and is a scum bag in their eyes?
As far as Pelosi goes? She is now an embarrassment to the Democratic party and Obama’s agenda. She has obviously lied through her teeth…and has picked a fight with the CIA of all organizations. She is toast…and until the liberals call for her to step aside as Speaker…the sideshow will continue…and Obama is the one who stands to lose.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:24 amRealityCheck
It is not obvious she lied. We understand you are too stupid to see it is Newts hypocrisy we are talking about screaming about Clintons character for having an affair WHILE he was doing the same thing. I dont care how many affairs the weasel has. That is between him his wife and God. Adultery is not illegal. You are still a moron and a punk RC. No brain, no self respect and not a shred of decency. Most crackwhores have more dignity than you do
May 16th, 2009 at 10:03 amI swear this a a far right tactic: Pick 4 adjectives that that describe yourself and use them to describe your enemy. And low and behold the limbic minds of your followers conform to the lie. Newt and Bill-0 have got it down to an art.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:17 amRealityCheck Says:
I find it humorous that posters who excused Clinton on having an affair with a young girl…who worked for him…are so easily led to pointing out that Newt…had an affair with someone who DIDN’T work for him…and is a scum bag in their eyes?
Either you do not know much about Newt’s history and how he came to be Speaker of the House, or you are deliberately muddying the debate because your side can’t win. As Eugene correctly pointed out, it’s Newt’s hypocrisy that is the issue. And, yes, Newt is a scumbag. It was Newt’s GOPAC that taught Republican candidates things like “Go negative early,” and “Describe your opponent with certain words like ’sick’ and ‘pathetic’” (there was a list of about fifty of them, and Newt suggested that it didn’t matter how true your attack is.)
As far as Pelosi goes? She is now an embarrassment to the Democratic party and Obama’s agenda. She has obviously lied through her teeth…and has picked a fight with the CIA of all organizations. She is toast…and until the liberals call for her to step aside as Speaker…the sideshow will continue…and Obama is the one who stands to lose.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:24 am
A reasonable person who considers ALL the facts would have to say that the CIA did not prove that Pelosi was lying at all, because the CIA does not keep accurate records of its meetings. And since the members of Congress who attend those CIA briefings are not allowed to see the CIA’s notes, they have no way of knowing if the information is accurate. Sen Bob Graham, who keeps meticulous notes on everything he does, says that the CIA claims he was at three briefings that he did not attend. Add to that the fact that the briefing and its notes are still classified, and she is hamstrung about what she can say about the briefing.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:20 amdeedress Says:
I swear this a a far right tactic: Pick 4 adjectives that that describe yourself and use them to describe your enemy. And low and behold the limbic minds of your followers conform to the lie. Newt and Bill-0 have got it down to an art.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Psychologists call it “projection”, the tendency to ascribe to others the things you hate about yourself. And it’s not so much a tactic as it is a personality trait of the right wing. They just can’t help themselves. You can see it in the troll posts here at TP. They constantly accuse the left of doing and thinking things that they themselves are well known for doing.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:25 amI’d like to see Gingrich swing from the end of a rope for his treasonous acts against the US Constitution!
May 16th, 2009 at 11:47 amthomas mc Says:
I’d like to see Gingrich swing from the end of a rope for his treasonous acts against the US Constitution!
May 16th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I, for one, do not support the killing of anyone, no matter how much one might think they “deserve” it. Instead, I would like to see Newt’s hypocrisy exposed to the point where he’s so humiliated that even he is too embarrassed to ever utter his name in public again. I realize that, given his utter lack of shame, this would have to be a really, really big thing. But it’s better than being known for wishing people dead.
We should have at least a small amount of sympathy for Newt. After all, he is clearly a mentally deranged man.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:21 pmOS Says:
Psychologists call it “projection”,
No, olbyloons w/no argument call it that. Proof abounds.
Care to back that assertion up? One can easily find the definition of the term that I posted. Where’s the “proof” that only “olbyloons w/no argument call it that”?
Actually, your comment is typical of someone who can’t admit he’s wrong.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:27 pmEugeneDebs Says:
We understand you are too stupid
ahhh…that’s the spirit. If you disagree with someone…do a personal attack and call them names. Brilliant.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:38 pmAt the same news conference where she accused the CIA of misleading her on the topic, Pelosi acknowledged for the first time that she knew in 2003 that terrorism suspects were waterboarded. She said she learned that from an aide who sat in on a briefing in February 2003.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:42 pmEx-CIA Official: Agency Brass Lied to Congress About Interrogations
In 2004, McCarthy was tapped by the CIA’s Inspector General John Helgerson to assist him with internal investigations about the agency’s interrogation methods. The report Helgerson prepared remains classified, but the ACLU filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit to have it released publicly.
McCarthy was not an ideologue, her friends say, but at some point fell into a camp of CIA officers who felt that the Bush administration’s venture into Iraq had dangerously diverted US counterterrorism policy. After seeing – in e-mails, cable traffic, interview transcripts and field reports – some of the secret fruits of the Iraq intervention, McCarthy became disenchanted
May 16th, 2009 at 12:45 pmThey’re trying to make this about Pelosi.
THIS is what it’s about:
On July 17, 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, who later became secretary of state, said the CIA could proceed with “alternative interrogation methods,” including waterboarding, when questioning suspected al Qaeda leader Abu Zubaydah.
The decision was contingent on the Justice Department’s determining the method’s legality. A week later, Attorney General John Ashcroft had determined the “proposed interrogation techniques were lawful,” the report said.
The ones in control at the time, the republicans, decided to waterboard.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:00 pmHe THINKS she is lying and therefore is the most despicable person in America. Wow, that’s a lot to take from a man who was booted from the same position when Congress KNEW what he did.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:05 pmA former FBI agent told the committee that his team got information from a terror suspect Abu Zubaydah using a non-threatening approach.
The agent said the prisoner shut down when the CIA used harsh tactics, including waterboarding him – or strapping a prisoner to a board, covering his face with a wet cloth and pouring water on it to disrupt his breathing.
I guess what can you expect from the Bush adminisration, an administration whose idea of diplomacy is to bully the rest of the world into submission.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pmjohnmatin Says:
He THINKS she is lying and therefore is the most despicable person in America. Wow, that’s a lot to take from a man who was booted from the same position when Congress KNEW what he did.
She is obviously lying…and the only ones who seem to be in denial are her staunch supporters. As for Newt? When confronted with the accusations he was having an affair…by the media…(who got this from you’re hero Larry Flint) …Newt choose to resign his office…instead of putting the country through an embarrassment…like Clinton did.
Pelosi is caught and has NO WHERE to run. She is toast and has a ticking clock!
May 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pmEugene Debs,
If the President of the United States and members of Congress were involved in a crime, then yes, the President would be guilty as well as those members of Congress. As for your question – Would he be more legally guilty than a member of Congress? I don’t know. That is for the courts to determine. Would he be more morally guilty, to me yes.
You’re missing the point you nit wit (since all you seem to understand are insults).
Nancy Pelosi has said that the Bush administration committed torture crimes. She has also said that she had no knowledge of or part in these “crimes”.
Now we see that not only was she a party to what she has called a crime, she has repeatedly lied about any involvement.
Since there actually was no crime, (read the treaties, there are no protections for these terrorists), no one will be prosecuted. But Pelosi IS guilty of lying and playing politics with our national security.
For this there will be political consequences.
May 16th, 2009 at 6:11 pmRomartin16985, What source are you using to determine that the terrorists are not covered under international treaties or the Geneva Convention? Post the link(s) please. I’d like to review those sources. I am researching this topic and would like to compare/contrast.
Thanks.
P.S. Please try not to insult as hard as it may be. Thanks again.
May 17th, 2009 at 10:51 pm