Hoyer and Cantor forget to take ‘AIPAC’ off file name of letter to Obama on Middle East peace.
Hoyer and Cantor forget to take ‘AIPAC’ off file name of letter to Obama on Middle East peace.
Earlier this month, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) and House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) sent a letter to President Obama regarding the Middle East peace process. The letter says that the U.S. “must be both a trusted mediator and a devoted friend to Israel,” adding that “Israel will be taking the greatest risks in any peace agreement.” The Washington Post’s Al Kamen writes today about a discovery he made when opening the computer file version of the letter, in an item titled “Now, That’s Lobbying”:
Curiously, when we opened the attachment, we noticed it was named “AIPAC Letter Hoyer Cantor May 2009.pdf.”
Seems as though someone forgot to change the name or something. AIPAC? The American Israel Public Affairs Committee? Is that how this stuff works?
Matt Yglesias observes, “It is worth noting, however, that while public talk at the AIPAC conference was about devotion to peace, the substance of this letter is to try to make people think there will be a domestic price to be paid for any serious effort to push for a solution. This is similar to how Israel’s land grabs in-and-around Jerusalem are at odds with the Israeli government’s public presentation of itself as interested in peace and disturbed by the lack of a credible partner.”
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May 15th, 2009 at 12:54 pmAnd we’re supposed to be surprised because……………………….
The reason the name was still attached because when your working your ass off for your constituents and your country, you want everyone to know it. The U.S. Congress (both houses) work for the United State of Israel. Point blank, nothing more to see here and nothing more to report.
“We’re all Israeli’s Now!!”
RIP
May 15th, 2009 at 12:55 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Can anyone here tell me anything that Israel has done for the USA to make them the “valued friend” that they are supposed to be? I can’t think of anything they have done. As far as I can tell Israel is a “valued friend” only because of the Jewish population in this country.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:56 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
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More Jew bashing in 3….2….1 (remember though, Religion is a protected classification under the proposed hate crime bill)
Looks like you beat yourself to it buddy.
RIP
May 15th, 2009 at 12:56 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
More Muslim bashing from Con4Prog in 3…2…1
Oh, wait. It beat me to it.
PEACE
May 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pm.
Documentary ‘The Israel lobby – The influence of AIPAC on US Foreign Policy’
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2894821400057137878
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May 15th, 2009 at 12:59 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
More Jew bashing in 3….2….1 (remember though, Religion is a protected classification under the proposed hate crime bill)
If you are looking for “Jew bashing” you will have to go to one of your conservative websites.
Just because we are appalled by the hold AIPAC has on our congress does not mean we are bashing Jews.
May 15th, 2009 at 12:59 pmBilbo:
Remember the USS Liberty, 1967
May 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pm.
Dear CFP,
It’s unfortunate that you can’t distinguish between politics and religion.
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May 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pmConforProg,
I have a question for you – are you happy about this country’s elected officials acting on behalf of Israel?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmUncle Ho Says:
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Bilbo:
Remember the USS Liberty, 1967
That was gonna be my next post Unc.
RIP
May 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Can anyone here tell me anything that Israel has done for the USA to make them the “valued friend” that they are supposed to be?
They buy lots of neat war toys? Like WP rounds? And surplus nukes?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pmIt’s like the crooked student who buys a term paper online and forgets to delete the disclaimer that reads “delete this disclaimer”.
When I was in high school, I once did my boyfriend’s science homework which he was to recopy before turning it in. I used the word “orgasm” in every instance where the word “organism” should have been used. He got lazy and turned in my work. Needless to say, he got busted and I’m sure his teacher got a laugh.
PEACE
May 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pmAnd they also agree with the bomb first and scrape up the survivors school of diplomacy.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pmDo we really need to be fooling ourselves about the power and influence that AIPAC has on Congress?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:07 pmNow if Fox can only remember to take GOP off their file headers…
May 15th, 2009 at 1:08 pmmary lacewing Says:
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ConforProg,
I have a question for you – are you happy about this country’s elected officials acting on behalf of Israel?
ConforProg: Sound of Crickets.
This was just a hit and run post for CFG, he/she has nothing constructive to say to the group, so he/she went back to stormfront.com.
RIP
May 15th, 2009 at 1:08 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
Next, we’re going to see refutation of Obama’s policies with wikipedia notations still linked to it… oh wait, that’s already troll behavior….
May 15th, 2009 at 1:09 pmNo surprise here. Lobbying groups write letters for Congress people all the time. These morons didn’t change the file name on this one. Heck, the Lobbyists are the ones writing the legislation for the clowns in Congress. Big Oil wrote the ‘Energy’ Policy. Insurance and Big Pharma ‘Healthcare’ Policy, and so forth. The difference is that the EXXONMOBIL Energy Plan for the 21st Century.pdf had the filename changed to just Energy Plan for the 21st Century.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:10 pmBilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
Can anyone here tell me anything that Israel has done for the USA to make them the “valued friend” that they are supposed to be?
They do the jobs we won’t do — offing Palestine!
May 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pmHoodathunktick,
May 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pmDon’t forget the “cluster bombs” and “white phosphorous” to use on the Palistinians.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/04/israel-cluster-bombs/
Well, they’re correct. Congress is bought and paid for by the Israeli lobby.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pmWhoops. Why don’t we just put AIPAC in charge rather than laundering their output through these “representatives”?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:16 pmYah! They buy our bombs and tank’s with the money we grant them that is never paid back…How do’s that work exactly?…And here’s another thought for all, how are our gov, official any better than Israel’s.?.We are still supporting and funding war’s on 3 front’s of our own as well as paying all of Israels fun…Damn I hate war’s and don’t give a flying fig about warmongers either……What really happened to ending the war’s and creating peace.?…..Guess the change I voted for was bigger, better and more war’s,silly me, not as I hoped, the end of war’s….P.B. & J
May 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pmI’m switching to AFLAC.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pmWhoa. The banking lobby is gonna be pissed when they find out. They spent good money to buy Congress.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Now tell me the Center for American Progress has never helped ghost write a letter or legislation.
Now tell me how AIPAC is concerned for America’s interests?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pm.
CFP,
It’s unfortunate that you can’t distinguish between America lobby and a foreign National lobby. But maybe, you would see the difference if the headline was, “Hoyer and Cantor forget to take “Libyan Lobby” off file name of letter to Obama on Middle East peace.”
See CFP,
It isn’t that it is Israel in particular, but that other Nations are writing and influencing A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N legislation.
… And none dare call it TREASON.
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May 15th, 2009 at 1:21 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
More Jew bashing? It is time for another Republican rant about George Soros using his illicit wealth to secretly control the country? Because we love it when Republicans take their talking points directly from Mein Kampf.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pmralph,
May 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pmBut Congress will be using in their Prudential insurance bailout money to cover for that expense.
Oh my…
CFP, the issue here is not that AIPAC “ghost wrote” a letter for a member of Congress to send to the President. That is what lobbyists do. No one disputes that.
The issue, my slow-witted friend, is that the Congresspeople SENT it to the President under their own names as written and were so stupid that they didn’t even bother to conceal the real source of the letter.
Now do you understand?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmIsrael is a terrorist country…….period!
May 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmIt’s not the Israel people it’s the Israel corrupt leaders who are trying to destroy Palestine and use the United States. We had the same problem here in the US for 8 years with our criminal President and Vice President. When people are brainwashed into believeing the Leader is honest and telling the truth people follow. Look how many Israel Leader were charged with corruption and rape. The Defense Minister said what we saw of thousand of innocent Palestine people being killed didn’t happen it was Hamas that killed them. All this goes back to Abraham and his two son’s. Like anything in life Greed and Power has taken over and it’s no different then what happen when the Pharaoh let the Jews go. Israel is only interested in controlling all of the Palestine land and bombing Iran. American Jews will if allowed to continue their mission of World/Middle East Power then take over the United States. Most would say no but Greed and Power charges people. Right now it’s hate and greed that forces the actions. Israel had many Law Makers and others in the United States that will put Israel’s interest before the United States. Money and land are involved and we saw how Jews even wanted Bernie Madoff’s head on a plate when he stole from them. It’s always been the root of Evil and nothing has changed. As Jewish people were getting big bucks from Madoff they didn’t care where it came from as long as they could live better and wanted more. One phase in the bible is used if anyone speaks up with some common sence. ” give to Israel and you will be blessed”. Now that meaning has been used to get where they are now and it works. Then never forget the Holocaust as if only the Jews had suffered. Never mine the Indians or Slaves their suffering didn’t count even the numbers were to great to print and all this was done in the United States, but the World has to only address the Jews. I’d read and visited Holocaust museums and survivors and couldn’t believe that Israel would attack Palestine and I’d see a modern Holocaust. I wish we didn’t have see what happen as one reporter showed a little girl burning to death as Israel soldiers looked and laughed. Those are pictures you wish to forget,as it reminded me of those pictures of Jews in the camps.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmNut’NYahoo blasts the Pope for not being guilty enough.
Israel blasts the hell out of innocent Palestinian children, while grabbing more land that isn’t theirs.
Rice & Bush sit on the sidelines, basically saying ‘not enough people have died yet for us to get involved’.
Isreal won’t agree to non-proliferation treaties…hell, they won’t even admit they have nukes.
Nut’NYahoo already set the stage for bombing Iran, but want the USA’s support on record.
Yeah. AIPAC is some friend of America.
With friends like that, who needs enemas?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pmAnti-AIPAC : Anti-Jew :: Iran’s president’s anti-Zionist speech : Wiping Israel off the face of the map.
See how it works?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pmThat’s why you’re who you are.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
“Note that ConservativeForProgress carefully didn’t say that he hates Muslims. All he said was that he never posted anything saying that he hates Muslims. To me that is an admission that he hates Muslims, and the only debate is over whether or not he is too cowardly to publicly admit his hateful beliefs.”
May 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pmUncle Ho Says:
Bilbo:
Remember the USS Liberty, 1967
With friends like that, who needs enemies?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pmrobbez_92107 Says:
Anti-AIPAC : Anti-Jew :: Iran’s president’s anti-Zionist speech : Wiping Israel off the face of the map.
See how it works?
No, since Iran never said they wanted to wipe Israel off the face of the map. Here’s what he said:
Want to try again dickhead?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:40 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Not a day goes by when so-called “progressives” on this site do not bash Jews.
Really? Then it shouldn’t be too hard for you to list some examples of this. So, either put up or shut up.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pmSerious question.
How can we criticize the actions of the (political) Israeli State, without being accused of being against Judaism (religion) or the Jewish population (race)?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pm.
Dear CFP,
It’s unfortunate that you can’t distinguish facts from your fiction.
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May 15th, 2009 at 1:42 pm.
Hey everyone,
I bet CFP thinks criticizing the USA is attacking Christianity.
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May 15th, 2009 at 1:43 pmCFP, your ability to accurately judge when a “progressive” is “bashing Jews” invites skepticism. Part of this skepticism is born of your demonstrated inability to accurately judge… well, anything, and part of it arises from your clear and inescapable bias that seems to cause you to favor hysterical broad-brush anti-left pronouncements over anything that might relate to what the rest of us recognize as The Real World.
So thanks for your input, but we’ll continue to take it as it is best used — as fodder for making fun of you.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
What’s “based”? Is that what you write when you’ll lose all your Free Republic cred if you say you’ve never “bashed” them?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pmConfront CFP and ask him to prove what he is saying and he mysteriously disappears. I wonder why that is?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:46 pmSo CFP, where is your proof that we have bashed Jews on this site? Are you having a problem finding the proof?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pmBilbo, I think you misunderstood the comment from robbez. He was laying out the through line of the kind of right-wing delusion that results in claims like CFP’s.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Now tell me the Center for American Progress has never helped ghost write a letter or legislation.
Yes. Now it’s up to you to provide the evidence they did.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pm.
Well CFP,
Since you clearly can’t distinguish between a Religion and a Political movement…
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May 15th, 2009 at 1:49 pmRalph,
Thanks. I think it’s been a long time since we all took the SAT.
You interpretation is “spot on.”
May 15th, 2009 at 1:50 pmBilbo has a good point. If “not a day goes by” with progressives “bashing Jews” on this site, it shouldn’t be too much work to come up with some examples.
And, of course, our fake-progressive troll, currently screen-named “The All Seeing Eye” doesn’t count.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:51 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
I’m sure when your buddies in Israel pre-emptively annihilate the city of Tehran, it will come as a great comfort to the population of fifteen million Muslims that you’ve never “bashed” them.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pmCFP makes me long for the good old days where the widowed sheriff would saunter on down to the barbershop to get his hair cut and in the middle of it, his skinny deputy would charge into the shop and start babbling about the “jews” down at the bank won’t give him his green stamps for making a deposit in his christmas fund, and everyone would march down to the bank and drag the banker out from his office by his huge nose and beat him senseless in the street, with little opie giving the dirty jew the last kick, smiling all the time. Oh yeah, those were the days, right CFP?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pmWhat is CFPs obsession with proving his stupidity EVERY DAY?
May 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pmOh good. We’ve got CFP in a bind.
He’s calling for RHF to produce evidence of any “muslim-bashing” posts from him, while at the same time ignoring our calls to produce evidence of “bashing Jews” from progressives.
This is the kind of knot that gets tighter and tighter…
May 15th, 2009 at 1:54 pmTommy, would you call it an “obsession” when a cat stalks birds every day?
How about when a hamster runs in its little exercise wheel?
Is that an “obsession”? No, it’s simply creatures being who they are.
May 15th, 2009 at 1:57 pm.
Let me use the steam of logic coming from CFP…
If criticising AIPAC and the Zion government of Israel is bashing jews then…
… Criticising the Bush Administration’s lies and illegal war against Iraq is bashing Christianity?
Oh, but it gets better…
… Supporting the illegal invasion and war against a sovereign nation that never posed a threat to the USA(read Christian State) is really about bashing a Muslim State(Read Iraq), NO?
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May 15th, 2009 at 1:59 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Bobwurst, you are not CAP. I want the (mis)representation to come from CAP, not a random nobody.
You’re making less sense than usual Cfp. You made the claim, now prove it or shut it. your choice fathead.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:01 pmralph the wonder locust Says:
Oh good. We’ve got CFP in a bind.
He’s calling for RHF to produce evidence of any “muslim-bashing” posts from him, while at the same time ignoring our calls to produce evidence of “bashing Jews” from progressives.
This is the kind of knot that gets tighter and tighter…
And he’s aruging that it’s ok cantor and hoyer (i guess “steney” is short for “stenographer”) to forward stuff from APIC without even removing the letterhead because Center for American Progress does the same thing, but he won’t provide proof of that claim.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:05 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
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Bobwurst. See if you can keep up and anwer this question? Why is the Center for American Progress Action Fund a 501(c)(4) and not a 501(c)(3)?
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Need help?
That’s completly beside the point CFP. you made a claim and you can’t back it up with any evidence. that is the issue, it doesn’t matter what CAP’s IRS status is. But you keep digging that hole, you’ll hit China eventually. I hope you speak Mandiran.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:07 pmConservativeForProgress spewed way back @ #2: More Jew bashing in 3….2….1 (remember though, Religion is a protected classification under the proposed hate crime bill)
Actually, religion is already protected – the proposed amendment seeks to “broaden such laws by classifying as ‘hate crimes’ those attacks based on a victim’s sexual orientation, gender identity or mental or physical disability.” (Thomas Ferraro, Reuters )
May 15th, 2009 at 2:08 pmI see that our little friend CFP has abandoned his call for proof of his muslim-bashing in a desperate attempt to avoid his own responsibility to support his claim of progressives bashing Jews every single day on TP.
Or maybe he abandoned his call for proof of his muslim-bashing because it has come to his attention that proof does exist? As Peggy Noonan might say, is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:10 pmDoes CFP think the fact that the Center for American Progress is allowed to lobby (501c4) makes it less credible somehow?
What a moron.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:11 pmSomeone needs to take away CFP’s shovel, he keeps digging holes.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:12 pmAfter long study I’ve come to the conclusion that C4P is an anus.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:21 pmrepublicans hate facts Says @87:
I was hoping someone would make that connection. *snicker*
May 15th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThis isnt about semitism or judaism. This is about pay to play politics for special interest groups that undermine our democracy. It corrupts our elected servants who then ignore their constituents for self-serving ends
May 15th, 2009 at 2:26 pmrepublicans hate facts @88:
That’s because CONS only prefer *FACTS* that they themselves have MADE UP!
Does anyone else notice the similarity between the Cons manufactured “facts” and Lucy Van Pelt’s (of Peanuts fame)”little known facts”? At least her tidbits of misinformation – delivered with absolute aplomb – were amusing…
May 15th, 2009 at 2:33 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
More Jew bashing in 3….2….1 (remember though, Religion is a protected classification under the proposed hate crime bill)
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So what? Nothing in the hatecrimes legislation stops criticism. If I decide to assault a religous person because of their religion I will keep that in mind
May 15th, 2009 at 3:02 pmConservativeForProgress Says:
Now tell me the Center for American Progress has never helped ghost write a letter or legislation.
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Got any evidence they HAVE? Oh and your delusional fantasies dont count as evidence
May 15th, 2009 at 3:05 pmBobwurst Says:
But you keep digging that hole, you’ll hit China eventually. I hope you speak Mandiran.
May 15th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
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That’s actually not true – the antipode of the continental United States is actually the Indian Ocean, not China. I mean, there’s a good chance that he’ll get disoriented in the Earth’s core and end up off-course, in which case China would be a possibility. But for a perfectly straight-down dig he’d be better off learning Shark instead of Mandarin.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:20 pmI recall blogging the fool out of the AIPAC meeting and TP doing nothing.
Over half of Congress attended the Gala Ball Monday night. Both red and blue teams pander to Israel.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:23 pmstateofthedivision Says:
I recall blogging the fool out of the AIPAC meeting and TP doing nothing.
Over half of Congress attended the Gala Ball Monday night. Both red and blue teams pander to Israel.
AIPAC is not stupid. They will infiltrate any political party so that they will always be as close to the power as possible.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:26 pmAIPAC is just another “lobbying” group.
May 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pmSo, is AIPAC more powerful or less powerful than the banking lobby that killed Senator Durbin’s amendment?
May 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pmWayne Ant Schneider says:
which is more powerful?(banking or AIPAC)
Gee, that’s a tough one. I say flip a coin to determine.
May 15th, 2009 at 4:54 pmWayne Ant Schneider Says:
Good question Wayne
May 15th, 2009 at 8:54 pmranus69 Says:
AIPAC is just another “lobbying” group.
With friends like AIPAC, who needs enemies?
May 16th, 2009 at 6:43 amAny Congressman involved with or lobbying for AIPAC should have to register as an agent of a foreign government.
May 16th, 2009 at 8:54 amSenior Obama official on the upcoming visit of Israel PM Benjamin Netanyahu:
“The meeting on Monday is a continuation of a very close relationship between the U.S. and Israel, very close friendship and cooperation on many issues,” said one senior Obama official.
“This is [the president's] first opportunity to take the next step to deepen and expand this cooperation. And I’m quite sure it will be the first of many such conversations.”
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085878.html
May 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm