Kristol: ‘Dick Cheney, Most Valuable Republican.’
Kristol: ‘Dick Cheney, Most Valuable Republican.’
While many Republicans are trying to ditch the legacy of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, one pundit is still clinging to the previous administration. In a column today titled “Don’t Wince. Fight!,” Bill Kristol offers a full-throated defense of Cheney, writing that Republicans cringing at the re-emergence of the former vice president have a “juvenile understanding of political dynamics.” Kristol then prescribes that to regain power, the GOP needs to embrace Bush’s policies and listen to Cheney:
The real question any Republican strategist should ask himself is this: What will Republican chances be in 2012 if voters don’t remember the Bush administration–however problematic in other areas–as successful in defending the country after 9/11? To give this issue away would be to accept a post-Herbert-Hoover-like-fate for today’s GOP. That’s why Republicans should listen carefully when Cheney gives a speech this week in which he’ll lay out the case for the surveillance, detention, and interrogation policies of the Bush administration in the war against terror.
Kristol concludes, “Dick Cheney probably won’t be the glamour quarterback of the Republican comeback. But he’s proving to be a heck of a middle linebacker.” Those considering taking the advice of the Kristol Ball should check out his July 2007 op-ed on “Why Bush Will Be A Winner.”
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This coming from the Oracle of the the GOP who has never been right about ANYTHING!
May 15th, 2009 at 7:27 pmMost vermininous republican…
May 15th, 2009 at 7:30 pmKristol: ‘Dick Cheney, Most Valuable Republican.’
– - CHENEY/RUMSFELD 2012 This IS your father’s GOP.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pmCHENEY/RUMSFELD 2012 This IS your father’s GOP.
– - Ok, this is your grandfather’s GOP.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pmHAHA – good luck with that theory Kristol! I don’t think people will have fond memories of the Bush Crime Family for many, many years to come.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:36 pmThat’s a laughable comment coming from the Most Valuable Neocon. It should be no surprise that Kristol would want to draw attention away from himself and onto Cheney, though both have done more than enough to keep Republicans on the fringes for a long time.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:37 pmKristol (R-Israel) doesn’t give a damn about America or Americans.
Kristol’s official title is “Propaganda Minister – State of Israel”.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pmThey always claim they kept us safe — avoiding the obvious –that 9/11 happened on their watch – after they ignored intel warnings, and after they ignored previous administration officials begging them to listen to their warnings.
When the first WTC was bombed in Clinton’s first month, he didn’t blame Bush I. Instead his administration captured the perpetrators, and he kept our soil safe for his term.
Not only did the willful arrogance of Bush II lead to disaster, his henchmen and cronies are trying to incite another incident to “prove” them as the only source of national protection.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pmComing from Kristol, this means absolutely nothing.
In fact, everything coming out of Kristol means nothing. :D
May 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm.
Bill Kristol: ‘Dick Cheney, Most Valuable Republican.’
… For Team Torture.
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May 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pmYet us examine the case of former Vice President Dick Cheney. He kept very quiet when the Republicans in Florida stole the 2000 Presidential Election. Team player or traitor to democracy? You decide.
Dick Cheney has yet to explain his very odd actions on nine-nine and nine-ten which led to the biggest terrorist attack in the history of the world on nine-eleven.
Dick Cheney seems to have been involved in the public outing of an undercover CIA agent: this is a felony crime.
Dick Cheney has profited from his connection with Halliburton Corporation, which owns KBR, which built 12 or 12 showers in Iraq in which American military servicemen were electrocuted to death.
All of the activities of former Vice President Dick Cheney need to be publicly investigated.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pmKristol MVP- Most Valuable Moron
May 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pmDick Cheney ordered the torture of an Iraqi witness to get him to produce a link between Hussein and Al Qaeda:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-13/cheneys-role-deepens/
What say you, Bill Kristol?
May 15th, 2009 at 7:50 pmThe Truth is Republican Men have a problem with Strong Women.
Republican Woman they have representing them
Michelle Bachman
Sarah Palin
Dana Perino
Mika Brzezinski
Miss California
Ann Coulter
Elisabeth Hasselbeck
Virginia Foxx
The entire women on Fox News
Lindsey Graham
Mary Maltin — And the weakness of their Women goes on and on
Now compare their women to strength of Democratic Party
Barbara Boxer (who cannot stand Mika Brzezinski)
May 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pmHillary Clinton
Dee Dee Meyers
Nancy Pelosi
MSNBC Women – Contessa, Tamron, Norah and Rachel
(Rachel Maddow especially known for her takes down of Joe Scarborough on Race to the White)
Maxine Waters
Claire Mac
Kathleen Selibus
Sheila Jackson Lee
Amy Klobuchar
Barney Frank (Known for his take down of Joe Scarborough on Real Time with Bill Maher)
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz!
KIKI MCLEAN — And the strength of our women goes on and on
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Dear Bill Kristol,
Please name the redeeming qualities of:
~ Warrantless surveillance of Americans…
~ TORTURE…
~ Detention without charges…
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America
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May 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pmI really do think Rush has been sharing his oxcycotins with many members of the Republican party. It is impossible for all of these people to get all of these facts so wrong. They are not getting them wrong. Instead, they want us to believe this crap and give their political partners a free pass. Personally, I continue to believe this trick will not succeed. We need patience and lots of it in order to make it to the conclusion of this huge mess. These are crooks and as unappetizing as this exercise is going to be-we must do it. We must not forget our children are watching us. They are looking for a line-where should they draw it when they become our leaders. We owe them to STAND UP for what is right, no matter how painful it is going to be. We are a country of laws and No one is above the law.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pmKristol: ‘Dick Cheney, Most Valuable Republican.’
I couldn’t agree more! Keep pushing Cheney in front of a camera or microphone…..it does WONDERS for the Democratic party!
May 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pm.
Dear Bill Kristol,
Please point out where the Founders got it wrong on:
~ Unlawful searches and seizures without warrants…
~ Excessive punishment…
~ Due process…
XXOO
America
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May 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pm.
Dear Bill Kristol,
What does it make a person when they argue to usurp Foundational Principles and Constitutional Rights?
XXOO
America
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May 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm“Enhanced interrogation techniques” was a phrase first coined by the GESTAPO, many members of which went onto fame and glory, and being tried and convicted for war crimes at Nuremberg.
So, certain Republicans in the Bush/Cheney administration decided to dust off the Gestapo’s “enhanced interrogation techniques” phraseology in an attempt, apparently, to “soften” the Gestapo torture practices, for propaganda purposes, that these Republicans had authorized to be used against detainees around the world.
And as suspected by many, the Republican-implemented Gestapo-style “enhanced interrogation techniques” weren’t used just to elicit information from detainees about potential terrorist plots against the United States, but were employed, for instance, in 2002 to get detainees to confess that there existed a solid operational and strategic link between Saddam Hussein’s Iraqi Baathist regime and al Qaeda (to justify Bush’s and Cheney’s lust for invading Iraq), while after March 2003, detainees were tortured in Iraq to get them to confess 1) where Hussein and his sons were, since they initially escaped capture, 2) where Hussein’s massive stockpiles of WMD were located, along with any information about his nuclear program, plus 3) anything Iraqi detainees knew about Hussein’s contacts with al Qaeda.
So, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (in collusion with a bunch of similarly nutty neo-con Republicans) will be remembered for embracing Gestapo torture policies, practices and terminology. And maybe instead of Nuremberg, someday we can hold the war crimes trials of these culture of corruption Republicans at Williamsburg.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:55 pmHow much did Cheney pay Kristol or “tortured” Kristol to make such a “foolish” comment for a person who had 5 deferments and broke the law?
All of this must be an “extreme” high for Cheney, he’s getting off on all of this.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:56 pmI would agree that Cheney is the most valuable Republican. Of course valuable is a relative term, one man’s gold is another’s garbage. My value of Cheney is about like a used car salesman on a junker lot. He is still trying to peddle the crap he sold for 8 years, but we are no longer buying.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pm.
Dear Bill Kristol,
Since past performance is indicative of future performance, just how are Americans ever to believe you, again?
XXOO
America
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May 15th, 2009 at 7:57 pmI think your on to something. I was always looking at the bigger picture which is they just generally have mental problems about all sorts of things.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pmwizard2000,
May 15th, 2009 at 8:00 pmI like the term “Fluffy Kitten Cuddle Time”…
… Now THAT sounds fun!!!
ADAY, you include Barney Frank as a strong Democratic woman? WTF?
May 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pmOne mans pain is another mans porn.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm“While many Republicans are trying to ditch the legacy of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney,…”
Many more are still in the ditch…..
May 15th, 2009 at 8:11 pmspring heeled jack,
May 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pmBecause he included Sissy Graham for the G(no)P
as successful in defending the country after 9/11?
Not so much on 911. Which count more when looking back Mr. Kristol? Failure on 911 or apparent success after (apparent because the Anthrax attacks have disappeared from memory)?
May 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pmaww i love the cute little picture. just like the ones my grandma used to force me to take. what a dbag.
is it just me or does his mouth look big enough in the picture to eat sean hannitys head?
haha sorry seen him too many times on daily show to take him seriously.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:22 pmWhat in-the-loop, PNACer, Kristol is really saying is that Cheney kept us safe since 9/11 by deciding not to stage another 9/11 style Psy-Op.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:24 pmI thought Dick was Agent Cheney from the Democratixx
May 15th, 2009 at 8:27 pmMVR?
Most Voldemort-like Republican!
He who shall not be named…
May 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pmAwwww how cute, a PNAC guy is standing up for the other PNAC guy. Spit.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pmThe cowardly neo-conservative, chickenhawk, chickensh*ts of the PNAC all stick together. None of them have ever served their country but they love war!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:32 pmBill Kristol still brags about his discovery of Sarah Palin, so he is hardly a credible judge of the merits of Richard Bruce aka DICK Cheney!
May 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pmspring heeled jack,
May 15th, 2009 at 8:38 pmEven though Kristol makes the argument that since 9/11, Bush/Cheney kept the USA safe(debatable), his omission to the fact that Bush/Cheney did NOT keep the USA safe before 9/11 is telling, NO?
Hey Bill, if you tried swallowing that boomerang end first instead of sideways, you might get it down…
May 15th, 2009 at 8:41 pmYeah, just what a repug needs another popular figure.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:43 pmDick Cheney ordered the anthrax to be sent out to liberals. We’ve not been safe since 9/11/01 because Dick Cheney is still alive and breathing.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pmMax I heard buckshot use the phase, we kept the US safe for almost 8 yrs. ALMOST?
Not in sixty years…until chimpy. So in 60 yrs everybody kept us safe until chimpy got selected. They kept us in terror for over 8 yrs.
May 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pmYep, he’s lost his marbles.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:02 pmGame of Life,
May 15th, 2009 at 9:08 pmbuckshot = Cheney?
Not counting 9/11, Cheney kept us safe and apart from Watergate, Nixon was an honest joe. ;)
May 15th, 2009 at 9:08 pmKristol is completely out of touch with reality. He would wave a steaming dog turd under your nose and tell you that it smells strongly of roses. And… he’d believe it.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:09 pmKristol: “The real question any Republican strategist should ask himself is this: What will Republican chances be in 2012 if voters don’t remember the Bush administration?”
Much better…
May 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
What differentiates William Kristol from a Snake Oil Salesman?
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… The Snake Oil Salesman isn’t a snake selling oil.
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May 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pmDick Cheney is the Mr. Wilson of this generation. But he gets his jollies off of waterboarding Dennis for playing on his lawn.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pmGet off your knees, Billy.
May 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pmSorry OT…
Researcher seeks probe of Bush-era ‘homicides by torture’
By David Edwards and Stephen Webster
Published: May 15, 2009
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/15/investigator-up-to-100-detainees-have-died-in-us-custody/
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May 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pmKristol came from the radical left and for him to say Cheney is the most valuable republican….
WTH does that mean?
May 15th, 2009 at 9:58 pmTwo words for Kristol: stockholm syndrome
Look it up buddy, then get help fast.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pmhormiga brava chavez @ 5,
HAHA – good luck with that theory Kristol! I don’t think people will have fond memories of the Bush Crime Family for many, many years to come.
After the first Bush, I thought people would have been sick of the bushies – apparently not! I can only hope that people don’t forget these last horrible 8-years. I hope that this generation will remind newer generations about the BushCo crime family. A vetting process for president should be, “Do you have any ties to Bush or his friends?” If the answer is yes – FAIL!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:11 pmAnd Michael Steele is what? A flat turd on the side of the road?
Remember a few days ago the Dick chose Limpo as better GOPiggie than former Secretary of State Colin Powell.
So, Kristol endorses the Dick, the Dick endorses the Limpo, and Limpo sez he doesn’t want to lead a party of losers.
Moose Boogers / Sam the Plunger 2012!
May 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pmrightwing-leftwing Says:
I hope that people don’t forget – especially when Jeb Bush tries to run for office. I had a bad feeling when I saw him with Cantor trying to rebrand the GOP.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pmADAY Says:
May 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
With all due respect, Barney Frank is gay, but he is still a man. Posting his name in a list of powerful Democratic women is beyond ridiculous.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pmWilliam Kristol is, at his core, a frightened little boy. He’s afraid of what someone might do to him, not what anyone realistically will do. And because he is so scared, he wants to do everything imaginable, even violence, to stop his imaginary threats. In his continuous state of fear, he is incapable of rational thought. For that reason, he should be publicly ignored until he can get the help he so desperately needs.
You need help, Bill. You really do.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:28 pmWhen Kristol says “Republicans”, he means “Neocons”. By that measure, Cheney is the big dog.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pmHey, Bill! When are you scheduled to have your finger removed from your chin?
May 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pmHow is it possible that this man has not put a gun to his head and blown his brains out.
A totally immoral excuse for a human being.
Is he married? If so, how could a woman sleep in the same bed with him? Someone with low self esteme maybe?
May 15th, 2009 at 10:40 pmHe’s a homophobe.
clue
May 15th, 2009 at 10:51 pmBill Kristol just outlined the Republicans entire purpose, they want to resume power in 2012, and they will use any means to achieve that goal. The idea that some how they can cast Cheney/Bush in a “different light” shows just how delusional they have become. I can’t help to think the country is not their top priority. The Republicans are in for a lesson in honesty. The truth is hard to spin around.
May 15th, 2009 at 10:57 pmThe Democratic party is far from perfect, but the GOoP defines the term “epic, devastating fail.” The fact that they listen to war criminals like Cheney is one proof of that.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:01 pmYou are so right flight! I’ve no clue why these people think a new ad campaign or clever slogan will make them relavent to voters again.I think folk are looking for substance now, not clever packaging.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:04 pmOutstanding,
The thing the Repukes count on is that people slip back into old habits — and they are right to do so.
When the economy continues to go south, because that’s the way things so huge work, they will turn away from their own best interests, and back to their hateful little safe place — under the wing of Bill O’Reilly and Rush Limbaugh.
I really hope I’m wrong…
May 15th, 2009 at 11:09 pmMax Anax junius -1 Says:
Game of Life,
buckshot = Cheney?
yes, my term of endearment. :)
May 15th, 2009 at 11:13 pmToo true Zooey. The publicans have managed to get those most hurt by their policies to defend them for years, as best I can tell they’ve got folk arguing for their freedom to have no health care. You’re not wrong, but I sincerely wish you were.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pmYour wrong.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pmHey, Willy, you really crack me up, man.
May 15th, 2009 at 11:35 pmOh, for the love of DOG!!!!
What utter shite.
STFU, Billy. You’re an evil, stupid little nincompoop.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:12 amDear Bill,
I have given the honor of informing you that you have been awarded the “2008 Zionist Crackpot of the Year” plack. Here is a list of the previous winners:
ZIONIST CRACKPOT OF THE YEAR
2008 – Bill Kristol
2007 – Charles Kraphammer
2006 – Rupert Murdoch
2005 – Jonah Goldberg
2004 – Tom Friedman
2003 – Geraldo Rivera
2002 – Paul Wolfowitz
2001 – William Safire
2000 – Michael Savage
1999 – Philip Zelekow
Nominations for Zionist Crackpot of the Year are taken in November and can only be made by certified Jews.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:21 amGoes along nicely with NRO Corner’s near-total, unblinking support for El Rushbo.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:22 amMaybe people will remember how will the Cheney administration defended us ON 9/11. One can dream.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:27 amThis of course is intelligence at its best!
Groupthinkprogress puts out a new equation. It gives you x stimulus, to elicit y response!
It is a way to control your feeble minds!
You cannot think for yourselves. You are stimulus response pavlovian dogs! You hear the bell ring and you come running to the dinner table to make silly commments b/c you cant solve a problem. Hahaha!
You have no answers, just general whining. And no, I dont want fries with that losers!
I love that you can just sit around, read the same articles with no other perspective and solve the worlds problems without ever formulating your own thoughts on how to solve a problem
May 16th, 2009 at 12:36 amKristol once again proves that he is the pundit that is on the losing side of the equation. Has this man ever been proven right about anything?
May 16th, 2009 at 12:45 amSomebody (i.e. KO, Rachel, Stewart) needs to put together a highlight video of his greatest hits and predictions. How anybody takes this guy with more than a grain of salt is beyond me.
Here’s one of my favorite Billy prophesies:
Bill Kristol March 17 2003
“We are tempted to comment, in these last days before the war, on the U.N., and the French, and the Democrats. But the war itself will clarify who was right and who was wrong about weapons of mass destruction. It will reveal the aspirations of the people of Iraq, and expose the truth about Saddam’s regime. It will produce whatever effects it will produce on neighboring countries and on the broader war on terror. We would note now that even the threat of war against Saddam seems to be encouraging stirrings toward political reform in Iran and Saudi Arabia, and a measure of cooperation in the war against al Qaeda from other governments in the region. It turns out it really is better to be respected and feared than to be thought to share, with exquisite sensitivity, other people’s pain. History and reality are about to weigh in, and we are inclined simply to let them render their verdicts.”
May 16th, 2009 at 12:46 amI have had it with whiny men! You have all officially turned me off to the d**k!
If I have to listen to you whiny weiners or read it I am going to scream.
I am a lesbo now thanks to listening to you non-men complain and complain!
If one of you were a man, you’d go join the army and fight for something instead of being an internet monday morning quarterback.
Any liberal girls out there want to lick redundant pen*ses?
May 16th, 2009 at 12:50 amzooeey Says:
And you are such a sorry troll you think you will garner our attention by stealing the moniker of a respected member of this blog. Sorry cupcake, it isn’t going to work. Tootle on along now.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:52 amOkay, Okay, Okay
I apologize for the Barney Joke (And I needed to stuff him in there just because the Republicans are so Anti Gay and here we have two people Rachel and Barney who completely shut The D- Law Student Joe Scarborough Down to the point he was either speechless or storming off the set.)
But I apologize
May 16th, 2009 at 12:55 amredundant pen*ses–what the devil does that even mean, mate?
May 16th, 2009 at 12:57 amzooeey Says: beat it byaaatch!
May 16th, 2009 at 12:58 amAnd nicking a colleen’s name–is that any way to her heart, lad?!
May 16th, 2009 at 1:00 am#
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Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
zooeey Says:
And you are such a sorry troll you think you will garner our attention by stealing the moniker of a respected member of this blog. Sorry cupcake, it isn’t going to work. Tootle on along now.
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. Brothabilldo Baggins you are a troll, go away now. I knew I could say something to draw you out in a post! You are flagged brothabilldo baggins.
Everyone, please flag this lesbian hating troll!
May 16th, 2009 at 1:00 amzooeey Says:
This of course is intelligence at its best!
Groupthinkprogress puts out a new equation. It gives you x stimulus, to elicit y response!
It is a way to control your feeble minds!
You cannot think for yourselves. You are stimulus response pavlovian dogs! You hear the bell ring and you come running to the dinner table to make silly commments b/c you cant solve a problem. Hahaha!
You have no answers, just general whining. And no, I dont want fries with that losers!
I love that you can just sit around, read the same articles with no other perspective and solve the worlds problems without ever formulating your own thoughts on how to solve a problem
Hmmmm, funny, how you project…
May 16th, 2009 at 1:02 amspring heeled jack Says:
And nicking a colleen’s name–is that any way to her heart, lad?!
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Why yes, all part of my game! Why do you think women are attracted to jerks?
They need to be scolded and messed with. Its easy, like the easiest thing in the world to get a woman in the sack. Treat them like shit, give them a flower and next thing you know.
Your bedroom smells like their sex drippings
And your next mr spring heeled hack, my next nick, soon you we will hiding sausages
May 16th, 2009 at 1:04 amUCSBKitty Says:
project much
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Is that the best you can do? I mean put some effort into it at least. I know that one lonely brain cell can do a bit more than that. Maybe not
I am the Don Rickles of groupthink progress. YOu gotta entertain me a bit more
May 16th, 2009 at 1:06 amKnock yourself out, moron. It’s cute (and pathetic) that you think you’re fooling anyone.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:10 amThe Don Rickles of Think Progress?
Now that’s a bad gig.
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Zooey Says:
Knock yourself out, moron. It’s cute (and pathetic) that you think you’re fooling anyone.
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:15 am.
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See Spring Heeled jack, I am wearing her down. She thinks its cute.
Muhahaha!
zooeey and zooey sitting in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g
May 16th, 2009 at 1:16 amOh you nailed it Van Winkle. Good one. Pond Scum. Funny. Really. Wait, there’s a link….
VanWinkle[shakes fist]
May 16th, 2009 at 1:16 amAnother thread derailed by the brotha nut.
Dude…you’re making me regret suggesting getting help when you were all suicidal the other night.
Speed Kills
G’d nite
May 16th, 2009 at 1:19 amWhat if Zooey and I really got married, like, ya know. Not right away.
But like after we msn’d for a bit, she realized I am actually a funny intelligent guy and I dont really care about politics or anything.
And then her and I got married?
I would totally pwn all of you guys with cheeto dix
May 16th, 2009 at 1:19 amYeah, brotha. You got her right here[I'm pointing to the palm of my hand], mate.
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Mycelium Says:
Another thread derailed by the brotha nut.
Dude…you’re making me regret suggesting getting help when you were all suicidal the other night.
Speed Kills
G’d nite
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:22 am..
I dont do drugs, I am an Irish guy from africa and can write my own prescriptions so I dont do anything illegal.
My aussie wife is divorcing me so actually its time for me and zooey to hook up.
Work it out. No sex before marriage though. I dont believe in that
spring heeled jack Says:
Yeah, brotha. You got her right here[I'm pointing to the palm of my hand], mate.
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:24 am.
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You will soon realize the power of da brothabill! Women cannot resist me.
I am a flame and they are moths! They are irresistably drawn to my assinine statements!
Few women can resist, if any!
zooeey Says:
UCSBKitty Says:
project much
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Is that the best you can do? I mean put some effort into it at least. I know that one lonely brain cell can do a bit more than that. Maybe not
I am the Don Rickles of groupthink progress. YOu gotta entertain me a bit more
OMG, I should be honored to be insulted by some random anonymous person claiming to be the Don Rickles of TP…Feel superior yet insulting a person with one brain cell? Must make you feel SO Big in more ways than one, doesn’t it?
May 16th, 2009 at 1:25 amGoodnite, old sport. Turn the lights out.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:27 amMycelium Says:
Another thread derailed by the brotha nut.
Dude…you’re making me regret suggesting getting help when you were all suicidal the other night.
Speed Kills
G’d nite
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Cmon mate! What else you going to do but b**ch about evil republicans are. I mean, ok, we get it. Why not have some fun. Crack a few jokes. Hit on some uptight woman! Who just texted me again for like the 900th time today!
I mean, what’s life good for? You have a better chance of being hit in the head with a meteroite rather making a differene in this messed up world.
At least I have a sense of humor to make crazy posts that mock all of this insanity that you cant change and never will be able to
May 16th, 2009 at 1:28 amUCSBKitty Says:
OMG, I should be honored to be insulted by some random anonymous person claiming to be the Don Rickles of TP…Feel superior yet insulting a person with one brain cell? Must make you feel SO Big in more ways than one, doesn’t it?
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:30 am.
Ok seriously, time to take the corn cob out of your butt. Its making your walk much too unattractive. And your posts are worthless.
zooeey Says:
Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:
zooeey Says:
And you are such a sorry troll you think you will garner our attention by stealing the moniker of a respected member of this blog. Sorry cupcake, it isn’t going to work. Tootle on along now.
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. Brothabilldo Baggins you are a troll, go away now. I knew I could say something to draw you out in a post! You are flagged brothabilldo baggins.
Everyone, please flag this lesbian hating troll!
Ooh… I’m so scared. I’m sure that people here will be fooled into thinking that I am a troll.
Why not try being original? Spoofing a respected member of this blog is not going to do anything other than to make you out to be the fool that you are.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:31 amthis coming from someone who has to impersonate another poster? Thanks honey…
May 16th, 2009 at 1:31 am.
Hi bildohbro…
I see you still are allowed to flame bait, hijack threads, impersonate and oh…
… are you still a sexist pig of a homophobe?
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:33 amNite all. Have fun with this new unoriginal troll. They have become so pathetic it’s almost no fun to play with them any more.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:33 amGuess whom I am talking on the phone with right now. Zooey
Thanks all of you for playing
My future wife is on the phone, cant talk with you internet chumps no longer
May 16th, 2009 at 1:34 am.
Dear bildobro,
How’s the wife?
The new call room job in India?
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:34 amAnalingus
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Hi bildohbro…
I see you still are allowed to flame bait, hijack threads, impersonate and oh…
… are you still a sexist pig of a homophobe?
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.Yup, one last response before I get back to my honey on the phone.
I am still a sexist pig of a homophobe b/c I am not gay. Dont give a cr*p about gays and I am a sexist pig b/c unlike you, I have game and get la*d!
So chew on that sally!
Obviously you know I am the most popular poster on this website. You cant help but respond to yours truly. And, yeah, why not hijack threads?
I mean, the echo chamber of just saying how Republicans are evil. Well what fun is reading 1000 posts saying the same thing?
Might as well spice it up. Litte this, little that. BAM, like Emeril says.
I mean, I can join in lockstep and say. REpugnicans are evil. But that limits my creativity. I mean you ALL say that. Kinda pointless actually unless this is your therapy session on the internet.
May 16th, 2009 at 1:39 amI am zorro! Z
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But bildobro,
The difference between you and me are vast, I’ll agree…
… Shall I start with how I don’t have to pay to get laid?
Now, being the most vile and reviled poster here is usually something NOT worth bragging rights, but for you, I’ll let you show off your character for all to see in it’s full beauty…
… You know, the good, the bad and oh… It’s really ugly.
But hey, Zero, we can all pick you out by now so no, you really aren’t that creative, but rather tired.
I’m just waiting you out for your big ban, that’s all.
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May 16th, 2009 at 1:50 amSo once again he forgets about the Anthrax attacks or is it because the right wing nut jobs did it themselves and you can`t forget that two democratic Senators were the targets of the Anthrax attacks after 9-11 just when they were to vote no on the Patriot Act.We will never forget whose watch 9-11 happened on, never.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:08 amchristopher wiwi Says:
I think the wingnuts did the anthrax attack and 9/11. Cheney was the director. Call me a moonbat but this rabbit hole goes deep. They’ll be trying to sick Jeb Bush on us in 2012. I’m going to buy some good walking shoes when it’s time to go door to door registering people to vote and giving out brochures for the Democratic Party. I know what the REAL grassroots is all about.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:24 amNo thanks for Dick Cheney also brought to the Republican Party ignorance and self indulgence.
The American people are fed up with a Bush Administration that bought with it ruination of a once Grand Ole Party. The Fat Cats are still sucking off the tits of the lost.
I’m happy to see them cringe now when Obama tells them he is taking back there booty of theft from the taxpayers. They have been out of control for so long and now all of a sudden they have a conscience. I was once a Republican, when I thought it stood for the American people and not the wealthy of the land. Under Bush we got war and debt. Under Obama we get war and debt. Is everyone just blind to the fact that America is without a Leader.
Republicans those of you that believe this nonsense will find you are still in the wilderness being lead like lambs to the slaughter house and this PIG Cheney has little to offer you but what he has already given to you, Loss of trust and coherency for your Party.
I’m proud to be an Independent and am not pressure to obey the party hierarchy. I vote for the best person when I go to the poll. This past election there was not much of a choice and I voted for neither of these two known parties. Just more blathering by a Republican which is still licking the boots of Cheney trying to keep him relevant.
May 16th, 2009 at 2:25 am***
twajie loves him some dick ;0
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May 16th, 2009 at 2:28 amstormn00007 Says:
No thanks for Dick Cheney also brought to the Republican Party ignorance and self indulgence.
The American people are fed up with a Bush Administration that bought with it ruination of a once Grand Ole Party. The Fat Cats are still sucking off the tits of the lost.
I’m happy to see them cringe now when Obama tells them he is taking back there booty of theft from the taxpayers. They have been out of control for so long and now all of a sudden they have a conscience. I was once a Republican, when I thought it stood for the American people and not the wealthy of the land. Under Bush we got war and debt. Under Obama we get war and debt. Is everyone just blind to the fact that America is without a Leader.
Republicans those of you that believe this nonsense will find you are still in the wilderness being lead like lambs to the slaughter house and this PIG Cheney has little to offer you but what he has already given to you, Loss of trust and coherency for your Party.
I’m proud to be an Independent and am not pressure to obey the party hierarchy. I vote for the best person when I go to the poll. This past election there was not much of a choice and I voted for neither of these two known parties. Just more blathering by a Republican which is still licking the boots of Cheney trying to keep him relevant.
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your mien kampf,
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keep struggling.
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May 16th, 2009 at 2:31 amThe name-jacking, robo-tripping troll is a fat teenager with acne who is neglected, socially inept, and essentially friendless. It might have one equally outcast “friend” it farts and giggles with, but its idea of “party time” is drinking cough syrup.
It apparently has a whopping crush on a doctor.
May 16th, 2009 at 3:10 amstormn00007 Says: “This past election there was not much of a choice and I voted for neither of these two known parties….”
Doesn’t the barbed wire get a little scratchy after awhile?
May 16th, 2009 at 3:48 am…when Cheney gives a speech this week…
Another one? That’s the scariest part of the whole article.
May 16th, 2009 at 4:00 amWhen wingers tell you the Repubs kept us safe, just ask to see the list of plots foiled and attacks thwarted. There is no such list.
May 16th, 2009 at 5:30 amIs this clown still a FOX Allstar?
May 16th, 2009 at 6:01 amKristol: ‘Dick Cheney, Most Valuable Republican.’
… for Democrats.
May 16th, 2009 at 7:37 amThe funny thing is (okay, perhaps funny isn’t the right word…) if Cheney had faded into obscurity like Bush seems to have done, little or none of this torture debate would have heated up as it has. Obama made it clear that, despite what We the People seem to want, he wanted to look forward, not back.
But Cheney’s insistence on being front and center, on going on show after show making dubious or flat out false claims, and for touting torture as both legal and necessary, has placed the prior administration’s actions into a spotlight that can’t be turned off on Obama’s say so.
So when Cheney lands in front of a Grand Jury and winds up in a prison cell with his buddies, he has no one to blame but himself.
I honestly can’t figure out the logic behind Cheney’s actions. But then again, I never could.
PEACE
May 16th, 2009 at 7:55 amKristol loves Cheney who excuted the NeoCons plan very well.
A plan which called for invading Iraq and toppling Sadddam written by Kristol NeoCon founder in 1998…under [The Clean Break- A New Strategy For Securing The Realm].
The plan was represented to Israeli prime minister then, Natanyahu about securing Israel,and toppling Saddam was one of the elements of Kristol and Neocons plan which Cheney later excuted happily for Neocons .
Of course Dick Cheney to Kristol is the ‘Most Valuable Republican’. !
May 16th, 2009 at 8:37 amDick Cheney has to go on his roadshow, Spencer’s Mom, because he knows he’s committed war crimes and needs to put his Big Lies out there in the hopes they catch on! Of course, as you pointed out, he’s sinking himself, but that’s okay….we are dreaming of this man being in prison for the rest of his life! Hey, if he’s tortured…who cares! He loves the idea of torture and by torturing him it would make our nation safe, because Cheney pointed out awhile back that his next attack on America would be nuclear. Torture that man before it’s too late!
May 16th, 2009 at 8:39 amIt appears the Dick(head Cheney ordered torture not to keep this country safe but to extract false information to promote the completely illegal Botch War in Iraq.
He should be arrested and sent to The Hague. He wasn’t facing a “ticking time bomb” scenario. He was cooking up facts, just like over at the CIA.
This crimnal bastard must be tried for war crimes, murder and crimes against humanity. If this country can’t do that, then this country can’t do sh|t!!!
May 16th, 2009 at 9:44 amGood Morning dixie blood, good to read you here, thank you for posting…Blessings
May 16th, 2009 at 9:48 amFlag the ignorant namejacking troll. Far too ignorant and sad to be aknowledged
May 16th, 2009 at 9:48 amI think there’s more than enough evidence to support the fact that Kristol is the one with the “juevenile understanding of political dynamics”. The man’s been wrong about every major issue the last 8 years.
May 16th, 2009 at 9:58 amHilarious!
Dick is trying to save his hide through commendations of Kristol, a proven ideologue and astronomical loser in his predictions.
The GOPiggies can’t bring out the Chimperor or Karl Rabies due to their toxicity. But they want to use the Dick as if he has any credibility.
Yes. There is a logic to this tactic. Personally the Dick has absolutely nothing to lose by going out on campaign and attack mode against the Dems and President Obama, especially portraying them as weak on national defense, weak on the “war on terrah” and “out of control government spending”
The Dick didn’t have to balls to serve in VietNam.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:05 amNow he is making sure the S.S. Sinking GOPiggies at least save something, anything, so his epitaph car read “5 Courageous Deferments and never had any shame defending the GOPiggies”
How can anyone believe anything that comes from the mouth of William Kristol who is a founding member of the PNAC along with Robert Kagan. As well he also signed the letter from the PNAC in 1998 sent to then President Bill Clinton to take out Saddam Hussein by military force.
Source: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
He supports Dick Cheney for one reason and one reason only as the coward Dick Cheney is as well a member of the PNAC as well as Donald Rumsfeld, Jeb Bush, Paul Wolfowitz and others.
Source: http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm
The PNAC are the criminals behind starting the War in Iraq based on known lies and actually the PNAC are only doing the dirty work for Israel in the Middle East. They all need to be brought before the courts and sentenced to life imprisonment or to death if need be as they are nothing but war criminals and cowards who find it easier to put other lives at risk then their own.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:16 amStormpooper is still trying to pass for an Independent. That’s adorable.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:28 amBill- you’re an idiot- albeit an educated one-
May 16th, 2009 at 10:43 ambut you’re still, an idiot
And in other, war-ciminal-related news, Holder throws some wood on the War Crimes Tribunal fire:
In speaking to reporters Wednesday, Holder also said it is possible the United States could cooperate with a foreign court’s investigation of Bush administration officials.
Holder spoke before the announcement that a Spanish magistrate had opened an investigation of Bush officials on harsh interrogation methods. Holder didn’t rule out cooperating in such a probe.
“Obviously, we would look at any request that would come from a court in any country and see how and whether we should comply with it,” Holder said.
“This is an administration that is determined to conduct itself by the rule of law and to the extent that we receive lawful requests from an appropriately created court, we would obviously respond to it,” he said.
Pressed on whether that meant the United States would cooperate with a foreign court prosecuting Bush administration officials, Holder said he was talking about evidentiary requests and would review any such request to see if the U.S. would comply.
The first step in prosecutions are evidentiary hearings, so Holder’s caveat could just be a linear one, meaning one step at a time, as it were.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:52 amConsidering this shit stain’s track record of abject incompetence in reporting, analyzing or even comprehending the world at large, his defense of Cheney is just the latest example of how GOP pundits can make a substantial living by avoiding reality at all costs.
How this pea brained half wit is allowed to spew his alternate universe diatribes is beyond belief.
CHENEY IS THE VOICE OF GOP RESURRECTION?
Riiiigggttttt…….. and let us know when Elvis gets here.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:53 amIf William the Bloody had any insights of any value at all, he’d be smarmy.
As it is, he’s just a twit.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:54 amAmerica may yet join the rest of the civilized world.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am… oy…
i hate ‘weekend TP’… bo-ring…
i worked outside all day yesterday and the body needs a break…
have you heard about this???:
Obama Taps GOP’s Huntsman for China Envoy Post
Washington Post – ?33 minutes ago?
By Michael D. Shear and Chris cillizza President Obama today chose Utah Gov. Jon M. Huntsman Jr. (R) as his choice for ambassador to China, tapping a moderate Republican governor to be his envoy to the world’s largest country.
Video: Obama Picks GOP Governor for China Post The Associated Press
Obama names Huntsman to China post Deseret News
Salt Lake Tribune – The Associated Press – msnbc.com – Chippewa Herald
all 778 news articles »
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&ned=us&ncl=dCzALcmeCXZU61M8hucZsyjbJXOyM&topic=h
please, sir, WTF? … i never did catch on to chess…
May 16th, 2009 at 10:55 amSo if we are not attacked before 2012 doesn’t that mean that Obama has kept us safer? I find the rights logic lacking.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:56 amKristol and Luntz could open a shit-sandwich shop; Luntz describes the menu in terms that make it sound delicious, while Krystol informs you on how good it is for you.
May 16th, 2009 at 10:58 amand what’s with that high school picture of billy up there?
ok… maybe college…
May 16th, 2009 at 10:58 amthat’s the picture Billy dug out for his e-harmony profile…
May 16th, 2009 at 11:01 amkaty, you beat me to it. I was just gonna link that story. Cray, huh?
May 16th, 2009 at 11:01 amThanks Witch1,
Good morning and good luck to you.
(As an atheist I practice luck instead of blessings, please forgive me) 8-))
May 16th, 2009 at 11:04 amBill Kristol offers a full-throated defense of Cheney, writing that Republicans cringing at the re-emergence of the former vice president have a “juvenile understanding of political dynamics.”
It’s fun to see all of Bill’s neuroses, and deeply-held fears laid out, like this one. He’s got to know his credibility is in the crapper, but other than to continue, what option has he? He’s on a dying horse, in the middle of the stream.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:17 amBill Kristol offers a full-throated defense of Cheney
Um, what’s his throat full of?
May 16th, 2009 at 11:32 amralph – “cray”? … huh?
heh.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:37 amoh my, jane… you don’t s’pose satyam pulled a pun, do ya?
(pun? is that correct?) ‘play on words’ works…
May 16th, 2009 at 11:40 amok, ralph – i looked it up:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray
#3, i’m guessing…
yep, cray… or maybe chess, again…
May 16th, 2009 at 11:42 amOy. I meant “crazy”. But number three works, I guess.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:44 amomg – #7… eeewwwww…
the things we learn…
May 16th, 2009 at 11:44 amok… off to run some errands…
May 16th, 2009 at 11:45 amWith advisors like Kristol, the GOP will be completely extinct after the next election.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:46 amdixie blood, nothing to forgive, I embrace all thought’s with respect…More Blessings to ya.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:50 amI just followed the link to Bill’s column “Why Bush Will be a Winner” and it’s a shining example of punditry-as-wishful-thinking.
Somewhere along the way, Billy must have expressed as “informed opinion” an irrational hope he harbored, and it came to pass. ‘Cause now that seems to be the only trick he’s got left in the bag.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:56 ambarfly Says:
And in other, war-ciminal-related news, Holder throws some wood on the War Crimes Tribunal fire:
In speaking to reporters Wednesday, Holder also said it is possible the United States could cooperate with a foreign court’s investigation of Bush administration officials.
What a cop-out. So he wants Spain or some other country to take out our garbage for us. We created this garbage, it’s up to us to take it out for ourselves. If we don’t, our world standing will be forever diminished.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:58 amspring heeled jack Says:
The Don Rickles of Think Progress?
Now that’s a bad gig.
Yeah. Don Rickles is dead. :o/
May 16th, 2009 at 12:04 pmYes, yes Darth Cheney is the most valuable republican…for the democrats that is.
The only reason Kristol is jumping on the Cheney bandwagon is because Cheney is controversial and one of the biggest news story in the media right now. Kristol is just looking to attract more readers.
May 16th, 2009 at 12:07 pmkaty Says:
… oy…
have you heard about this???:
Obama Taps GOP’s Huntsman for China Envoy Post
Huntsman is actually a pretty good guy. The GOP hates him for his moderate position. He supports gay marriage and makes an issue about global warming. He also has many other moderate view on things.
My only problem with this appointment is that Obama is taking a moderate Republican Governor out of the picture and Huntsman will be replaced by a conservative. That what he did in Arizona. I wonder why he keeps doing this.
Lieutenant Governor Gary Herbert is considerably more conservative than Huntsman.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_12383217
May 16th, 2009 at 12:11 pmFraming the argument for torture (war crimes).
Thanks to another TP user, I did some research on Framing an argument. Here’s the jist.
The NeoCons objective is to change the frame around the subject torture to something more acceptable to their base and others who may be unable to see through their framing tactics. Once a framing word takes hold over the actual internal framed word, the subject has been reframed. Here’s what I’ve seen so far. Note that the word inside the frame never changes, only the frame word.
Liberals framing:
A War Crime
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| Torture |
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Inhumane
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| Torture |
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Not Effective
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| Torture |
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Not Efficient
|—————–|
| Torture |
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Makes Us Less Safe
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| Torture |
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Terrorist Recruiting Tool
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| Torture |
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Neocon Framing:
Kept Us Safe
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| Torture |
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Thwarted Attacks
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| Torture |
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Provided Intelligence
May 16th, 2009 at 12:51 pm|—————–|
| Torture |
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I agree with Bill.
Cheney is the best the GOP has. It isn’t Newt, Palin or Jindal thats for sure.
Texas Gov Perry’s desires to break away from the U.S.A. will really go far in a GOP primary. Although not very far in a General election.
Cheney has got to be the essence of the GOP as Rush is.
Now if you think as a Republican this is favorable to any viable candidate aspirations with the same views of yours making any political election gains in the future. You should understand that that same Wall Street mentality of recklessness in the GOP does not and will not qualify for a bail out as it fails.
May 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pmDefending the country after 9/11? Maybe if he was good at defending our country we may not have had a 9/11?
May 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmmost valuable morron.
May 16th, 2009 at 7:55 pmDick Cheney, Most Venomous Republican ! ! !
May 18th, 2009 at 3:58 am